 Hello everybody hooded Cobra Commander 788 here and we are back with more Cobra Convergence content and this time we have Toy Domination. So I would like to introduce these guys and ask them to introduce themselves. Guys, can you tell us who you are and what you do on the Toy Domination Channel? Yeah, so I'm Dom. I'm Joe. And we're best friends from long, long ago. You know what rhymes now? I just that was out of top of my head. New slogan. Yeah, new slogan. Yeah, stop that rhyming and I mean it. Anybody want to beat it? Yeah, what do we do Dom? We play with our toys. So that's that's strong line like we're we love to just get stuff out of the packages, get our hands and knees. We've got kids. We're like taking and making games of it. We like setting up dioramas. We like play sets. We like to play with our toys. That's the biggest, you know, form of what we started form this channel around. Yeah. And then Joe, we did a lot. Yeah, the live shows kind of like more of a me and Dom have been friends for a long time and we have had a million conversations about whatever toy lines coming out or whatever we're excited for or whatever buying at the time. So like it kind of let's just talk about that in a public forum and we kind of have little segments like we call it news ish, but it's sort of just like because everyone else has already talked about it that are actually news toy related kind of stuff. So we have like different segments and we kind of talk about what we're we want to buy or what's coming up and then we we usually have a guest on or we have somebody there to highlight or a creator or someone that's building something cool and the three to three quarter arena usually and or sometimes it's a Kickstarter or you know, something like that. And then we usually kind of randled out with like the toys we picked up that week and you know, kind of just kind of have fun talking about toys on the live show. And also and I think that you've had some guests that the audience here would know. I think you had articulated Chad on and you before we started the interview, you mentioned Zazel. So I mean, what other guests and who do you like to have on your show when you're doing your live or or your other show or your other videos? So Chad and Frazell Frazell Frazell Frazell reach out and one, two, three. Chad and Zazel are really good friends of the channel. We've got a lot of other friends that have really actually helped us kind of grow and figure this out, which is awesome. We got to have like these big brother channels. We were like, hey, how do you do this or what do you do with this stuff? So it's awesome to be able to have that positive community of peers that you're not really competing with each other. You're all trying to help each other out and they've showed us things like, hey, you do cross streams, you do a gimmick like Saturday morning cartoons and like it's been really fun to learn all these tricks with them. And then we've also, so there's like our ongoing friends that we do cross streams with or, you know, hop over their channels. But like Joe said, we recently in reaching out to Kickstarter's like we've got Armies of Ashmore coming up. We talked to Hidden Force. Like we love to be able to see these people who are just so passionate that they actually went out of the way and took all the risks to make a toyline. Like that is amazing. That's what I want to do. Yeah. So even if it's not like, even when we're doing, even if it's not three and three quarter, we're usually talking to somebody that's like an artist or a creator or has made something or paint something or does customs or, you know, that kind of vein of it, not the people that are, not that there's anything wrong with this, but if you're like the putting it in a box and putting it on a shelf or something like that kind of thing, like that's, we like the people that are like innovating with how they use their toys and doing interesting stuff. And we kind of see this show as being a platform to not only give them exposure to, because some of them are just on IG and they actually have never done anything on YouTube or they have a small YouTube channel. They don't put much out. So we're like, Hey, come show this awesome content here. Like you've got a space station. You've got amazing custom figures. Let's talk about and show that in it. You know, Joe and I are lazy customizers. We'll head swap. So like we look at these guys work like, Oh, if only we didn't have kids, we could do that too. So that, that's part of what the show is. And then the rest of the channel, we didn't know what the heck we were doing for like the first six months, nine months, right? We're like, Oh, we should do, I don't know with our hands. All of these things, all of these things we've kind of piloted towards, Hey, we play with our toys. So let's talk about that. And then I'm also very passionate about making games and writing books. So we combine those two things together. So we have a one 18 scale big old backyard like full, what's it called full spectrum warfare that's on the backyard. And we also started designing a tabletop game as well and it can be played with different figures. So that's really fun. Having people come and play test that having to do it on live stream and being able to like share that fun and playing with toys as an adult. So you're, you mentioned the people who are being creative and people are actually going out there and making new, new toys. And that's something that a theme that's actually come up several times already as we're ramping up for Cobra convergence. But it sounds like you guys are kind of in the creative side a bit too. You mentioned that you liked creating games. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Get into, get into a little more detail on what people might expect if they check out your channel and what kind of just what kind of things you're interested in. Yeah. So I'll, so I'll pitch the Joe really quick and then we'll go back to the games, but Joe's a big artist. He's actually pretty talented. So he does a lot of the graphics and stuff on our show and I'm trying to pirate that that talent and have him design the art inside the game itself. And he already did a book cover for me that had been published a while ago. So, you know, he's proven that he's got this talent. That's great. And I'm lucky to have him as my friend on the other end of that spectrum. Dom writes. So hopefully our talents combined. Yes. Yeah. We shouldn't really have planned that better. I guess I could. I never know the things. Yeah. I know I did it the wrong way. For instance, you get a mixed up. So the games we have one game that's I don't know if you're familiar with any tabletop games like Team Yankee or Flames of War and something like that or or no Warhammer like that. That's a classic one. So so I love doing these games like man, but I got all these toys and I want to spend money on minis. What if so I just combined mechanics of gameplay with the toys that we have in a one 18 scale. So instead of inches, it's in feet. Right. So I expanded that into the backyard. We gave a few runs and honestly it's a lot of work. Like Joe came over as I came in. We're dragging all this stuff in the backyard and we were sweaty and we made it easy on us too because he put like like little he built little plates for like a squad level of you know, like six Joe's would go on it and be like that's a squad and we we're moving them around six at a time and it was still a lot of work, you know, it's like up and down and we're not young. You know, this was going to want to play this once they realized the word the last time you got in your backyard and ran around with it's it's difficult. And then the other game idea is that's less labor intensive and a faster pickup game it is to be used with any scale because you don't really have to worry about measuring what distance because it's arbitrary. So you can play with four inch scale, six inch scale, whatever scale you want because the distance is within a two foot by two foot area, which is much more manageable. More people have that flat surface they'll play on and you can just take whatever action figures mythic legions, Marvel legends, G.I. Joe, you can mix them up if you want to and we're creating a kind of an agnostic rule based system that follows either sci-fi or fantasy. So if you have if you are lonely and you're like, Hey, man, I want to play with some toys and I feel weird doing that. Well, here's some rules and a little bit of story that you can add to it. Yeah, and maybe you won't feel so much like a weirdo. So that's our idea. Well, I will feel like a weirdo anyway because I am one, but I appreciate the at least the structure, you know, for for the weirdo. There is there is a contingent out there within the toy you tuba sphere. That's really into playing with their toys. G.I. Joe Berg is one that that comes to mind. Those guys do their action scenes and their there's their storylines. It was like play action movies. So first of all, do you like that kind of thing? And second of all don't have to do something maybe that appeals to those guys who who will take their toys out in the backyard and hopefully make little movies. Is this maybe something that they should look into as maybe another way of enjoying their toys? Yes, because I actually got to meet one of the guys from G.I. Joe Berg and I think and I told him this to like, Hey, you're inspiring you allowed people to be comfortable with making sound effects of the noise in front of a camera and playing with your toys. Like to be able to create that new standard that safe space to be like, Hey, this is okay. It's acceptable. Awesome. Like very loud. Yeah, right. And not to take away from any other creators and who's doing anything else. But that is a milestone and all the other channels that have come afterwards and done play motion. Like it's it's phenomenal deal to see that play. Right. If you enjoy that, but you're not really sure if you want to make the sound effects. You're not really sure like, well, what am I supposed to do because we're adults and for some of adults that piece of the brain just left the childhood. But you still like to fidget with them, but maybe want to do a little something more. This the game structure allows that and there is a narrative piece too with like asking you questions for your character like, Hey, it's not just like I roll dice and it's done mechanically. There are some questions that prompt and you feel like, Oh, maybe that's my brother. I never really thought about that before. I guess I don't really know my password, whatever it is and you're about to imprint on that or you want to take roadblock and you want to play as roadblock. You can imprint that onto whatever this card is. So yes, I would say that it's more structured and less story flow like judge over clearly has like a script and outline, you know, the script and narratives like it's built like a show. This is more structured like a game and I mean, it sounds like games are important to you and have been talk to me a little bit about your background about how you kind of came into your own fandom and what ultimately ultimately made you want to do that in a public setting in a public format. It is Jim. What made us want to do this in a public format? Well, so, so again, I mean, I kind of mentioned this, but so me and Dahmer friends, we've been friends for a very long time. We bonded over like the GI Joe is kind of in high school age. Like we still actually went to comic shops and bought stuff up when our friends were kind of selling all their collections. We were the ones buying it from them. So like a lot of our collection is like just all of my friends toys now, you know, like, you know, kind of thing. So we've been hoarding our GI Joe's for quite some time. Then eventually Dom started to put more of a serious story on it and we kind of changed it from GI Joe to something like more like our creation kind of thing. And then that's what made Dom's books happen. So like we were kind of like almost playing out the plot of his book line sometimes or he tested things out and be like, okay, that didn't work. But eventually we like I've had a podcast, another one for a while and we sort of have always talked about wanting to do something like that for so long, especially since I'm capable of, you know, doing all the technical work. So with Dom being in the military, we're kind of bouncing around forever and like we sort of finally settled on, hey, we're in the same time zone. Finally, let's sit down and actually put our stuff out there. So that's kind of it. I mean, like that was really what, I mean, we always wanted to do something like this. We just never really had the time or the life adult life, kind of thing to get it together to make something like this. It's like our, we act as our channels like seven years old, but it's really like two years of, you know, kind of like, because we feel like we've known each like we've had this idea burning forever. So like we're just kind of, you know, you guys had the rapport before you started. Oh, yeah. You didn't have to develop the chemistry. You guys already had that one. Yeah, we've always, we've always hated each other. Yeah. You talked about G.I. Joe, you talked, also talked about some other properties. Can you talk about just like the, the action figures, the comic books, just the, in general, the, the properties that, that are near and dear to your heart. What are the ones that most inspire you and are most important to you? Oh, yeah. So I, I think, and this will, this will just turn away all of your fans immediately. Um, I think joy toys become my favorite, uh, three quarter inch line. Like I, I love, there are expensive. They're a little fragile. I get that, but I love the fact that they don't come with any baggage. They are three dudes in armor with, with a theme. And that's it. And I'm like, Oh, I can use these for anything. Here's three red dudes. Here's three, whatever. Here's some maintenance guys. Like this is awesome. So you can, you can bundle them in with your GI Joe set to like work on your aircraft carrier you want to, or they can be their own thing. And I can take 25th, uh, you know, modern style 25th heads and pop them on joys. We had to swap them around. They are, they are what I've been waiting for. Um, and I wish, I wish, I wish Marauder would jump to sci-fi and water would quickly surpass them because Marauder is a little more durable and you get that a la carte kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. The make your own figure, the build a bear option on Marauder's ink is awesome. Direct deposit. My paycheck. That's where it's going every month, right? Marauder. Yep. So, uh, three quarters scale ones for me and then the big scale, like I do collect Marvel legends because I'm a big comic book nerd, mythic legions soon to be Savage Crucible. So those are my fantasy lines. Like I never got to boss fight the six inch fantasy lines. Those are definitely my two Joe. I don't know if you have any deviations. I mean inspirations. Obviously GI Joe. We love GI Joe. We've bonded over GI Joe, but like in the comics to not just the toys, but like, and I honestly not so much the cartoon. I like the movie sort of, I mean, but everyone hates the movie for the cover a lot of stuff. But, you know, I sort of didn't care what I was a kid, but, uh, or rather, I guess it worked on me when I was a kid. Uh, but, uh, like the cartoon is a little sillier. I liked more of the comic. There's more serious style of the comic books and how they were treating the characters and stuff like that. So we kind of go more of the realistic less of like the lasers and everyone just bails out of their planes and people actually die and stuff. Um, comics wise, I mean, I like everything, but DC is near and dear to my heart. So I've been like, I mean, literally Batman Superman right by me. But, you know, um, yeah, I've been reading comics forever. That's why I started doing art. That's where a lot of my inspiration comes from, you know, Joe's the DC guy and I'm the Marvel guy. You can say I got excellent. Oh wait, I actually have a Batman back here. All right. So there we go. So I mean, yeah. And kids bandwidth or Marvel is the same as my bandwidth for DC. Yeah. And you don't you don't viewed over this. This is there's no there's peace between all I like all comics. It's not. I just gravitate more towards capes and tights and less, but I get to learn all the DC stuff from him. Like, yeah, when things come out, I'm like, what, what is this now? And I'll go pick up something like what's zero hour? What like, oh, well, there was also like, I mean, when we were, when we were younger and we'd go to the comic shop or every Wednesday or something, we'd be like, here's here's my X men and I'll take I'll take your Batman and we'd be like, and we read everything and only paid for half of it. You know, kind of thing. You guys, obviously you've been you've known each other since kids, your kids. You've been collecting and playing and reading comic books and drawing. But you also talk about how like in that G.I. Joe movie, the Cobra law thing when you were a kid that worked on you, you know, how, how have has your attitude or approach to the things that you loved as a kid changed as you've gotten older? So some of it, some of it's kind of the same for me to be honest. Like I never liked some of the bug stuff in the movie, but I always thought never fit in Forster and the dudes with the blades were cool. And still to the day, I'm like, those are still pretty cool. Like I like Dune. I could see those guys fitting to like a Dune type of setting. Those giant scythe blades were those things were insane. They're awesome. I regret they didn't kill more G.I. Joe's with them. So they got cold feet after Optimus Prime died. There. Yeah. There we go. We can't show these guys getting lopped in half. All right. Yeah. So some ladies will freak out. Some things retain and it's not just nostalgia bias. We all have that. We all love snake. You guys are optimistic Wolverine because you know, that's our hero. That's who we love as a kid. So some things retain with that also, but I still appreciate a lot of things that I do as a kid, but I've also grown to appreciate certain other things because I have kids. There's a lot of gimmicks and toys that I look at now as an adult. I'm like, this is stupid. Why is this spring rope thing here? My five year old one and be like, dad, they need to climb. He'll play with the spring rope thing. We'll we'll have to have reasons to play with that. He's like, it's hard to spill. I have to use the rope. I'm like geniuses. I'm so sorry. You were totally right. They knew what they were doing. They knew what they were doing. Flip things, you know, like the fake disguise wall things. Finn's like, this guy, I'm like, it's just a different toy son. But what I've couldn't appreciate is that those gimmicks aren't just a sell a toy. They actually harbor imagination. They actually foster imagination, I should say, and they let the kids play that out. I was like, man, I'm sorry. I'm very sorry to our designers. I pooped all over this. The majority adult poop in this way to go. So that has changed back and for the way you look at it or something that's on the shelf. Yeah. Yeah. Because now I see the play value and I'm like, oh, that's not just stupid. That is play. I'm just, I don't see that as an adult now. Right. I want the more realistic. Yeah. Proposable, like, you know, so but Joe, I don't know if that I mean, I don't think I've it's changed all that much for me either. Honestly, like it's just kind of if anything, we've graduated towards like a joy toy or we waste a little bit more money on a three and three quarter figure that I would have been like $40. You go to your mind, you know, kind of thing like a few years ago. But and also comics wise, it's really just like you grow up, you your tastes expand. It's not like I stopped reading Superman and Batman. I just started reading other independent comics and more Marvel and more of this and more of the weird creator stuff that's out there. That's not like, you know, indie comics, basically, but you know, like your tastes brought it, I would say, but I've never closed the door on anything really from my past. It's kind of just more of like, how can I incorporate that old stuff into what I'm doing now? I mean, we need we need the poo and I don't talk anymore. So don't you know, but nobody will see this if you want to confess anything. I promise not go up on the internet. I see the I see the record. No, wait a minute. You're on to me. We've got a Cobra centered event. So I guess I would be remiss if I didn't ask about Cobra. Do you have is there a Cobra character that you are the most fond of or that you have the most connection with? Absolutely. Yeah, I know the answer on this one. You already know my answer. I had a gun to my head like, I know who it is. I know it is. I know I'm Zartan. I love that toy. Again, gimmicky. When you're a kid, exchange colors and he had masks. Like, are you kidding? Like, and he came with a vehicle sort of, but you know, but yeah, I've always been heels to your rogue character. Like, yeah. He's got that like gimmicks, but he was right too. So yeah, I mean, he's sort of I mean, even when I was like really young, like he also just kind of has that like that Boba Fett to him, you know, like he's got that look that you're like, I don't know what it is, but I love this and I want to play with that toy. You know, so even before I knew his character or what he was really, it was more about like, this guy just looks cool. I don't understand what he's wearing. What he's wearing shirt. No shirt armor. I don't get it. None of this makes sense. I'm going to go with it. We're the weird cyber puns. Weird hood that's not attached to anything. I don't understand. I have asked Ron Rudd at some time like where where did you get this idea? I don't know that he knows where he got all the ideas. He was listening to a lot of David Bowie. That's a dream. But Dom, you have a you have a Cobra that that you most are fond of. I do. And so so I was two part one. I I always love Cobra more than the Joe is because it's the same of the Empire. I always love that uniform. I have seen those vipers out there in that dark mask. I was always like, oh, man, those guys are so cool. I hated seeing them just get knocked over like puppets. That's why I appreciate the comics like this where they're actually are like a little bit elite and can hold their own. I'm like, there you go. Like, look at all this cool kid. He spent millions in this army and they're just like fodder knocked over by balloons. So so I love the troopers. But my favorite and I think this is I think he's grown more in our community than we were kids because I had no idea who Firefly was as a kid. No, yeah. But now a lot of adults are like, oh, Firefly. Like he's written like they made him into a class. So I figure I if I had looked back like 10 years ago, like nobody knows who this character is. Right? I didn't know who he was as a kid, but I started reading the Hama version of or the later Hama issues and Firefly became he popped out and he had this interesting intrigue and he tied into the hard master's death with Zartan. And then double double betrayal is like, whoa, who is this guy that came out of nowhere? So and then I started looking and I was like, man, look at the saboteur and he's got cool gray and black camo. And and he was a mercenary Ford Colbert. He didn't always work for them. I was like, oh, I love this dude, man. So Firefly is definitely my number one. Firefly was one that I even back in 1984, he was just super cool like that. He had that dark camouflage that gray and everything was like all tactical for infiltration and stuff. But then in the animated series, he was very used very little. And then as you mentioned, Hama used him in the comic book, but later in that those first few years, you're like, he's there for a second and then he's gone. And yeah, you're probably right. He's getting a bit more appreciation now because people are going back and realizing how how cool it was. So I know we're recording this before Cobra Convergence gets started. So I at this point, you probably won't be able to spoil anything that you're doing, but I know that you're working on it. We're cooking up a something. Yeah, I do want to remind everybody that as you're seeing this toy domination's contribution should be up and the link will be in the description of this video. So make sure you check that out. So but more in general, where would you like to see your channel go? What would you like to see happen? And what would you like to do? What are the burning things on your mind that you want to do with your channel in the near future? I feel like we should shoot really, really low here. So when this comes out and we haven't met that bar, we're safe. I'd like to get two more subscribers. I know the answer. I know the answer. We're big proponents of positivity in the toy community. We really don't like yelling about QC and bitching about Hasbro all the time. And like, I just don't, I don't care. Like it's, that stuff happens. Good stuff happens. Stuff is more expensive now. I get it. Like, you know, but so we're more of like, let's just open our toys and have fun. And remember why you spend all this money on these in the first place. And I would like to see that community grow and that kind of attitude shift more into the light as opposed to being all the negativity that kind of gets a lot of, a lot of views, you know, so I think that would be kind of like our lofty idealistic goal. I think that's definitely the community we're trying to foster and not being fanboys to any, and behold, to any company we're, we criticize too. We're like, I was disappointed in this. I didn't like this line that there's nothing wrong with constructive criticism. Exactly. When it's actually constructive criticism to say like, I'm gonna give you some constructive criticism. You're an idiot. Like that doesn't help, right? Go on Hasbro. So Joe, Joe spot on. And like we just had a stream last night where we had people jumping on an irregular time and all the positivity throughout the comments, you know, the members start to know each other. They follow each other and like, man, that is, that is awesome to be able to have those type of people surround you and then bring in more like that. And I think that I hope that's a growing trend. The other thing we'd really like to be able to do with the channel too is embrace play, like play with your toys, right? So if we were to have this channel another year, we've already been experimenting with live streams that are actually playing the game. I would love to be able to do similar to what D&D channels do. And just like, hey, so now we're just playing a game and here's our guests to be able to play with us and have people do it virtually. I would also absolutely love and our Joe and my plan is to publish the game. We'll be having people's hands like go check it out and go download some more cards. Yeah, like it's the link in the description. We're playing a little version of it, but you can go check it out, you know, kind of. The other inspiring thing that we were talking to some content creators about last night, they build like these huge empire tour works, a rocket station, if you remember that, like huge play sets. There are a lot of people that are building these things too. So it was like, hey, you know, it'd be really cool if we played a game to actually fed into y'all's cannon. So we've talked to one of the stations, sky bottom station, he's like, hey, man, let's do this thing where we play a game on your channel and then we all go out to our content and we make the results from those games. So like this happened to my station, this happened to mine. So you have like this growing narrative of people get to play on their content and shape it however they want to. And then it's kind of like this big cycle. It was like, that's amazing to be able to help other people play with their stuff and see them. Yeah, and that's the kind of thing that you don't plan for. It just kind of like came about sort of, you know, through like just meeting these people and kind of getting to know, you know, the random people on IG and people you follow and then you sort of talk to them and then they're on your show for a minute and all these ideas kind of coalesce, you know, it's kind of awesome. And it's also, we've also got friends too who don't necessarily play the way we do, right? So like Eric from Know You Grow Up is not G.I. Joe at all. He does TMNT. Adam from Go Figure is an awesome restorationist. Toy Connections, right? Like Adam from Go, like all these people, they're still our friends. So we're going to start doing things like, hey, we just want to hang out. Like I know you guys don't customize like this or play, but we still have stuff we can talk about. So we did like cartoons of the 90s, right? Like XSquad is my favorite. Joe's the 1980s at it. So we still like to be able to do those things too and just hang out and talk again. And a more positive aspect of like, what do you love? This is the things that we like too. So yeah. I think that's kind of our trident, I guess, of our proceeding. You talk about being positive and maybe we'll call it not unreasonable criticism. There you go. Would you say that when you go in that direction and when you commit to that direction and you're talking about what you love more than what you hate, don't you find like there are, there is an audience that gravitates toward that? 100%. It may seem like everybody goes and watches the hyperbole, but there is an audience that is looking specifically for that more recent approach. Yeah, I think so. And there are good channels that are large that like pixel dance usually very positive. Oh yeah, there's plenty of big channels that are positive. Yeah, so it's not to disparage that. We like those channels that are more positive. You know, regardless of the size of the account, we just tend to gravitate towards those people and reach out to them like, hey, we'd like to collaborate with you as well. And usually their fans kind of tend to like us too because it's the same kind of attitude. Yeah, and it sounds like you are kind of building a community of fans and viewers. You mentioned that, you know, people start showing up so it sounds like you're really on your way toward building that kind of community. That's really, I just think that's fantastic. I just love to see it. Well, we're getting close to our time limit. I would like to wrap up by just giving you each an opportunity to say any parting words, any final comments before we wrap up and tell everybody to go check out your channel and check out your Cobra Convergence presentation. Yeah. Jerry, you got anything? I guess exactly what he just said, check out our channel and check out whatever we decide to do for Cobra Convergence. I know we have a few ideas. We haven't settled on it specifically, but we've got a lot of time. But well, not too much time. We got to get going, Tom. It goes fast. But yeah, we've got a couple ideas and hopefully whatever we do, whichever idea we kind of go down, it'll be something worth watching for Cobra Convergence. It's going to be fun and it's going to be playing with your toys. Like those are the two things you're going to want. That's for sure. Count on those two themes at least. No, so first, thank you very much for being able to set this up. I think it's awesome. This is a positive, if you weren't picking up on this, this is a positive growing community thing that you are doing right now. Like, so this is really cool that you're able to set up these interviews, you're setting up platforms. I've seen you on the Facebook group be like, I've tried to get these people, like that's a lot of work that you've taken on your shoulders to organize this. So it's, and you've gone out of your way to be like, hey, I'll pop on your channel if you want to. So I appreciate, remember, like channels like you who have a larger growth or like, hey, let me, it doesn't matter who you are, jump in here. I thought that was really cool. I've been on toy connections in the past before and I watch your channel every now and then too. So again, you have that same type of positivity or at least the, what is it? The ability to rationally be able to discuss a topic or I've always appreciated about your content. I appreciate the opportunity. And yeah, so anyone who's interested in looking at the channel in the future, please look at us in IG, like we post a lot of stuff in there too. We kind of straddle both the YouTube and the IG equally and we're exploring more and more in these games that are interested in how you play. Come on and check it out. All right. Awesome. Yeah. Well, thank you guys. And thank you. Thank you for the kind words and thank you for participating really. Thank you for being in Cobra Convergence this year. I hope you have a blast. I hope you love it so much that you have to come back next year. Oh, it's a little bit, it's an annual thing. With that, I'll say everyone who's watching this, thanks for watching and go check out Toy Domination now and you should be able to see what they've done for Cobra Convergence 7. So thanks everyone and we will see you again soon. Man, Joe, I hope we did a good video. I mean, it was really good. We've already done it. I hope we do. The pressure is on. Yeah. Thanks again.