 Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E.C.E.O., and I'm here with the lovely, amazing, official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? Nothing on there, what's going on? Man, you tell me now. Hey, man, we got a special guest in here today, y'all. Say, man, this guy came up, man, hey, the boy be traveling a lot. One time I talked to him, he was in Hawaii, actually, I ain't ever seen that like this, man. Why do a man travel so much, man? It's gotta be the money. And join life? Do you understand what I'm saying? Must be the money. My boy Bad News is in the building. Hey, I cleft old out. Man. How you doing, man? Man, I'm blessing it. How y'all doing? Man, we hanging in there, bro. So, hey, man, it's good to see you, brother. Man, it's good to be seen, it's good to be here. Last time I seen you, Sir Charles, that just came through and blessed the platform, yeah, just started and, man, it's just a blessing, man, to be done, been on the block like we have for, what, 10 months and, you know, just come into the game, man, and God been blessing us, man. Every time you look around, man, it's another blessing. Man, if it weren't for that man above, we wouldn't be right here right now where we at, man. Man, hey. I could hear it like this one. Sometime we're trying to get hard, man. Somebody's got a license in them all. Hey. Somebody didn't wake up. Hey. I got another chance. I opened my eyes. You know what I'm saying? Man, I used to say that. I used to be going heavy. That's true. It's real early in the interview to be going heavy. More than one way to hustle. More than one way to hustle. Man, I used to say that. That's one of my favorite serves, man. For real. So, man, you know, going into the music, I definitely enjoyed it, man. I know you, I know the Fisher, Mr. Mako got a few questions. She got up her sleeve. Don't, hey, don't, don't trip. She got them, man. Talk to me. Talk to me. Yes, tell us a little bit about your upbringing. Well, well, you know by my name. Mm-hmm. I was a bad child. You know, I got that name. I was a child that... Like, how old were you when you got that name? Ten years old when I got shot. You got shot? Yeah. Oh, okay. In the head. They say it was like an inch closer out of being dead. By who? Believe it or not, it was my cousin, Nick, though. Playing with a gun. Huh? Playing with a gun? Uh-uh. Man to shoot you? You see how tall I am? I'm like six-three. So when I was ten, I was like five foot ten, but I was bad. Y'all remember, what was that name of that movie when that boy was stealing the CD player? He jumped over the fence. Oh, J-Rock on South Central. I was J-Rock. Yeah. At ten years old. At ten years old. I was stealing my cousin's CD player at his car. And he thought I was a grown man, so when I started running, he shot me. So he didn't know it was you? Nah, he ain't know. That's why my mom didn't pay a charge. I shouldn't have been out there. And I ran in the house to my momma crying. Like, momma, I been shot. She ain't number 23. I mean, nah, she was 29 then. Uh-huh. And she like, boy, you ain't been shot. And she looked like just in the blood running from my face in my face. You know how to win me, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She went in. Yeah, hold up the phone. Yeah, but that's how I got a name, man. Like, old folks. Wild from one street of the house. You know what I'm saying? It's a real hood. Yeah. So four-head little cuts coming through, going to the stoves and stuff. My grandma on the bootleg. Me and my partner, God bless the dead. He just got killed four years ago. We used to hold rocks. And when they used to come through there, we'd hit them in the head with rocks and ruin. Bow. Bow. Just bad, man. Boy them bad. Boy them bad. You know what I'm saying? So the reason why you were so bad, was that because of the environment that you were in? Do you think so? Far just was in you to be bad. It was just in me. You know what I'm saying? I ain't want for nothing. I was just bad. You know what I'm saying? So how long did it take you to recover after you was shot in the head? Yeah. How long did it take you? You were just taking us through the process of how, like once your mama seen it, how did they slow the bleeding down? Was it any... I ain't gonna lie, man. It happened on us. Did you go conscious? No. Yeah. I was gone. I was out for like three days. Wow. And I woke up that Tuesday. They put you out because you went to your mama after you got shot and you were like, mama, I just got shot. So it's not like you said that right then and there. My grandma on my house right here. My cousin's house next door. It's my grandma's brother's son. Wow. So what did he say when he found out that it was you? Crying. You know what I'm saying? Crying. First thing. You know, it was a lot between my family because I ain't never get a whipping. That's why I was so bad because my grandma, like my mommy just tried to whip my grandma like, you hit my son, my grandbaby, you couldn't put out this house. Wow. She didn't put out much. She wouldn't let nobody whip. Were you an only child? No. It was me and my little sister. Oh, okay. But you were the only boy? Yeah, I was the only boy. That's why. Wow. But when you, how did, how fat, I know you, was you unconscious before you got to the hospital? No, I believe it or not. I remember being in the ambulance. Okay. But that's the last thing I remember. And I just remember my grandma was just over me, just crying. That's the only thing I remember. Probably lost so much blood there. Yeah. Man, everything. They said everything on me from head to toe was just soap. Wow. Yeah. Boy, you, hey, boy, that's amazing that you're still here. Yeah, they say it was an inch close. I'd have been dead. And you stayed in the hospital for how long? Do you remember? Nine days. Nine days you was in the hospital. Yeah. When you came back to consciousness, were you able to walk or? Yeah, believe it or not, bro. When I got back to come up, that was when my mama said it was an angel of me. When I got back to coming down that, I walked straight out the hospital. I was in basketball, I prayed it two days later. Ooh. Boy, you bad. With a bandage on my head. Wow. Did you get a whooping after you got out and you recovered? Mm-mm. Because I would have just tore that tail up a lot. Believe it or not, they spoiled me more. I used to get suspended from school. My mama and I used to take me shopping to the mall. Believe it or not, bro. How do you think they were so... Hold up, where was Daddy in all of this? In prison. In prison. Wow. What did he say? He write a letter home? No, he got and did the same thing. He got out and started cutting up? Yeah. So that's where you got it from? Daddy was daddy, man. You know what I'm saying? By the time from 11 to 12, I lost my daddy and all three of my older brothers in prison. One got 18 years, one got 22 years. The other one had got 14 years. They gave my dad 18, all federal. That's your daddy side? Yeah. Because your mama only had you and your sister? Yeah, she got more children than that, though, but back then, yeah. So he came home? Yeah. How long ago did he come home? He came home, believe it or not, the day before I graduated. How was it growing up without a father? It was rough, but it wasn't because my mama got married and the man, he was so much like a father to me. You know what I'm saying? God bless daddy. It seemed like I had a father, because he did everything that my daddy did. And this in Alabama? Yeah. But how old was he whenever... Hold on. How old were you when he came into your life? 12, a little too late. Yeah, I don't want to say this. That's what I'm trying to figure out. I was trying to figure that out. That's my thing. So where was he? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. He didn't come to 12. Yeah, I was 12. Wow. But he saved me, though. Like I said, I graduated. And I knew he wanted that. Well, none of that would have happened. But that shot, though, that you got, did that teach you a lesson, like, not to come out, not to be doing all that? Like, what did you learn from being shot? Anything? You talking back then? Yeah, back then. Then? Nah, for real. I don't lie to you. I was just young and wild. Reckless. Yeah. You know how like a robber get a thrill? Even though they got money, they just go steal, just do it for the thrillers. Like, I was just doing it for the thrillers. Just to see if I can get away with it. Young boys probably following you, too. Yeah. Well, I was the youngest in the clique. But they still follow you. Yeah, yeah. And you almost lost your life and you didn't even say, man, I ain't gonna do this no more. I gotta live for my mama. Man, it's crazy, man. My life, man, it's crazy. Like, they made me graduate a year late because the day I spoke to graduate a year before, my mama had told me to drop my little sister at her friend's house. I'm going around the corner. I was 17. JTurt 17. I ran into a roblob. I got two pistols on it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And they locked me up. So my mama made the graduation. You didn't even make the graduation? No. So they called my name at the graduation. They just looking. They get home, you know, back then, it weren't really cell phone. You got to call the house and leave the boy with me. Man, I blowed that phone up, bro. I blowed that phone up. You couldn't run. So when they got you out. I had a baby. I had a baby. So she went number three. See, if it was me, I would have left the car and everything. He couldn't leave her. I couldn't leave her, bro. But what I'm saying is when they had the roblob, were they looking for you? No, it was just a random roblob. They just decided they're going to check everybody. It was just checking everybody. I ain't had no license. You can reverse it. And my mama was rushing because she was trying to get ready for the graduation. She asked, like, Tua, can you run around the car? I was already ready. Man, you all seen my mug shot? A tie, like I'm a doctor. That boy would clean when he got his mug shot. So how did you end up beating those charges? Man, my grandma, they gave me the first offender's act. Okay. Because that was your first time. Yeah, I got the first offender's act, but they was trying to, it happened in May and often it'd be 18 in August. They won't try as a dope. And I was always getting away with stuff. So they were trying to wait till I was 18 to give me 10 years. But my grandma did something, paid some lawyers or something before she got me in court like two weeks before I turned 18 and they gave me six month probation. Wow. You should have named yourself lucky. No, bad news. Bad news. So when you first, yeah, because you come with the bad news first. I mean, I've been blessed, man. That's why I know God got a purpose for me. So I'm just trying to figure out, so when you didn't go to graduation, you went to jail. How long did you stay in jail? That day. And then you got out that day but you had to go back to court, fight charges, fight charges. Yeah, they had to go to court. They put me in drug classes. Man, I really seen some folks none of that really had problems. Yeah. You didn't have them. I was looking up. It was scary. I said, I'd rather be in jail. These folks are here looking crazier. Yeah. Those bumps all in their face, hell-roaring heads. You know what I'm saying? Wow. So what do you think God was trying to show you through all of that? The slow down, man. And then my second class, they pissed me out of everybody. They said, And you failed. And they called. I was paying attention. I was doing all the work. They were like, now look, this young boy's in his house. I go, I said, thank you, man. They said, you willing to do anything for your team in here? I said, I help them all. They're like, go show them how it's done. So I'm thinking, I'm walking to the board. She was like, nah, and gave me a cup. I said, I was dirty. She talked to me. We'll go back to Claire. She do it again next week. I pissed dirty. Again. Again. But you're smoking weed. Yeah. I was smoking weed. And so the third turn, she said, look, I'm just gonna write you out. Because I know you got to. Because my basketball coach said, I had scholarship everywhere for basketball. Wow. So the coach would kept coming up there. And she was like, I'm just gonna write you out because it's gonna be the reason you be a failure. She wrote me out. Wow. She was black? Uh-uh. Really? Older white lady. Wow. She was crazy about me because her son played basketball with me. Like I said, I was always lucky in some kind of situation. That's what I'm saying. You're lucky. Wow. And if I were to fail to win the jail, we wouldn't have won the state. Did y'all win? Uh-uh. They got niggas wanting to try to do it. I got suspended the day before. In school, they suspended me the day before. So you're saying because you weren't there that they didn't win? Of course. Were you? That's it. You were? Yeah. I'm the go. I'm the go. Really? I think they the man. That's right. So when you, coming up in Alabama, what part was it? Femme City. Right by Montgomery. I'll read the Alabama in Georgia. Right by Montgomery. You know that right by each other. Yeah, I know. Montgomery. Who we got down in Montgomery? That said boy, was he from Montgomery? Oh, the boy of? You remember them Dirty Boy. No, them Doby and uh that boy just went to jail that signed a, uh rapper lot. Uh, uh, uh, uh, what's that boy name? That nigga that he was cutting up boy. What's that boy name? He cut up. He in jail right now. His grandma got killed too and granddad. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Hunnicone Brazier. Hunnicone Brazier. I never got to meet him but when my partner put me on him, oh man, I just kept listening to that music while he was down in there. Oh yeah, that's he coming on home J. Prince number one. There's ain't nothing in it. Man, that's your own craze with that one, bro, man. He went through a lot. Yeah, bro. What? Woof. Man, but you know, God is still good and in the midst. He's going to be all right at a little time to sit down. Maybe, you know, slow him down a little bit. As you get older, it will, man. Like, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll dwell on you know what I'm saying? Because these kids, these days, I thought I was bad, bro. But you say as you get older, see that's heavy right there. Yeah. As you get older, some people be like, oh man, he done came home. He changed. That nigga got older. Yeah, and wiser. Some people get older and still go through the same stuff. I agree. I agree. But many times people change. No, a lot of majority of people do, but you still have some who still do the same thing. But do you think a lot of that got to do with your surrounding? A lot of it, too. That's what I agree with. And then some people say, well, it's just in me. Some people blame it on my dad. I'm a firm believer in you are who you surround yourself with. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And in your mind, it has a lot to do with your mental state. Sir Charles always told me that he was like, just sit down sometime and evaluate your circle. He told me that one day, he was mad. I done did, I did something. He was mad at me about something. He like, sit down and evaluate your circle. He was like, now look at what everybody got going on around your circle. Do you think that the circle you need to be in? That's real. And I evaluated it. And I just slowly started removing the pieces. And life just started slowly getting better. Like, I'm blessed. I've been in the circle for ten months, man. Me and Sir Charles got two songs on the number one streaming move on BET right now. From there around the hood, the story started ringing more. Wow. Man, when he told me, I started moving on folk, bro. And God started lifting you up. And we're going to get into the music. But when you come up in Alabama, I want to go back to Alabama just for a minute. Yeah. But I was going to ask a question where something related to that is, looking back on your life and all the bad news and all the stuff that you've been going through, when did it start to change as in how old were you when you started looking like, you know what, I keep escaping from all of this. I know God is talking to me. How old were you? Believe it or not, when you're having that question, I swear to God, she or that went through my body. Because like, if a person know me, they know my grandmother, my everything. Like, my grandma was getting sick. And I had did, what I had did? I had just had a shootout with some boys. How old? I was like 22, 23. And you were there or you were here? No, I was in Alabama. Alabama. But God, like God so good, the deputy sheriff knew my grandma. They were like, you better tell that boy to sit down because we can't keep sparing this boy. And she had got sick and I ain't never seen her cry in my life. Never seen her cry. She was in the hospital. She was like, baby, just do one thing for me, just change your life before I leave. And when she told me that, and I had one son and he was like three years old, but he understood what she said. And he just started crying. And after that, I just woke up. You know what I'm saying? I start slowly, I ain't just changed at one time, but I just start slowly removing pieces again to my life where I was messing up it. Like, nah, you can't pay me to call a female to be worth. I won't do it because she hate that word. I don't custom my music no more. She's like, if you go do some music, have a meaning to it. Everybody want to hear about guns, drugs and the grade women, because you got a daughter. And like he said, you get older, you just get wiser. And I look back at the stuff I did. They say, calm and come back on you. And that's why I try to change now because I don't want my kids. You know what I'm saying? Put me through them headache because my dad's in jail, you know what I'm saying? I'm here. And I'm doing right by y'all. So y'all ain't really got to have no reason. And when I say that, I sit back and think I ain't have no reason. But I was just about to say that because you said that you didn't need for, your mama did everything she could, you know, your grandma, all of that. At the same time, they did, but it was always a void mission. I didn't have that dad lucker. He was deaf for my brothers and sisters. You know what I'm saying? But I never got that love when he was home before he went to prison, when he got out of prison. You know what I'm saying? I just ain't never got that love from when there was a void out missing. Wow. Subconsciously because you really didn't know that. Yeah. And I think a lot of my troubles came from that because I remember when I was young, he used to pull up, but he was a hustler. So he'll stop by, drop money off and keep going. I knew I wouldn't go seeing him for so long. So I figured if I get in trouble, he might pull up and mama keep calling. And it started working. Until he went to jail. You know what I'm saying? Did you ever visit him in jail? No, they wouldn't let me visit him. They wouldn't let you visit him. I was on probation. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Boy, boy, boy. So when you were on probation, you can't visit them on your own? No, none of that. I don't know about state. Not in the federal. Even though I was a child, I still couldn't see him because I had a record. Wow. Wow. So, you know, I guess we can get over into the music a little bit, man. You've been ripping through the Internet, I call it. It's not like it used to be when you was doing CDs. How did you end up starting to rap? Believe it or not, me and my partner shot the little John. We were watching the Boosa DVD one day. It was right before Boosa went to prison here. First DVD. And he was like, you know I was in the streets right here. And he was like, man, bro, you doing everything Boosa doing. You taking care of all your homeboys, your kids, your family. You got a story to tell. He said, try putting it in a rap. And I tried and it just been on every cent. So when you put it in a rap, and did you look up to what Boosie was doing as far as just him being in the type of rapper he was? Yeah, but that was my dog. But see, I came up in that, I was on that Soul to Slim C-Murder Mac. You know what I'm saying? Boosie with him. Boosie with him. You know what I'm saying? Savage's life. Yeah, Savage. How old were you? When I first started rapping. 25. 25. And you was rapping and you doing your thing. How did you try to get on? Because a lot of times people don't know how to get on when they first start. Let's talk about that for a sec. See, I brought the, you can talk how you want to talk on that? Yeah. Okay. Clear stroke. This is the old news talking. I brought, I just brought the dope boy mind frame into the music game mind frame. If I'ma do it, I'ma do it. I ain't gonna be over here selling no nicks and dimes when I know a dude that can go throw me a quarter pound or a pound or a brick or two. So what I did was I got in the rap game, met some people in Louisiana. I linked up with Boosie because of Hatch Boy. The dude, Loco that sang on All It Hooks. We linked up and shot the Johnny Redd. He wanted to boost the right hand man. So boom, I made, I started making music. I linked over Hatch Boy. I said, oh, I hit him. I said, how much you want for a verse? I hit it because I bought verses from all of them. You know what I'm saying? So now I got verses from all of them. You got to be small. You got to think like a dope. Well, let's put a visual with it so they can see who this dude is on this song. They know these dudes. They don't got no face behind this. That's right. So I went shot, went out there, shot video. We started, we made boom. And they been on everything. Boosie got out of jail. I did a couple of shows, tours with them, him, Webby. And my name's, they got known. Then Mr. Serve on, found out about me, shot Mr. Serve on for no limit. You know, he my mentor. Yeah. Him and young Bleed. And my name just got the ring, bro. So, so me, you got to put money behind yourself. So you, when you first met Boosie, you conjured up, I'll say, this relationship with all of these guys that do the work around him. Right. And say, I'm going to work with them. And it really wasn't targeting Boosie, but just getting that whole machine behind you. Yeah. Because you got to think about it. Yeah. Because he was going to be the hot dude when he came home. Yeah. So it don't, nobody know you. It ain't yous and nobody is being small because they ain't doing it for free. That's right. That's right. You know what I'm saying? I paid the ride I had to go on the tour, have nobody for no money, for no hotels, no food. I brought everything. Wow. You can't do nothing but respect a hustler. But so when you do this with them, you build a relationship up. Boosie come home. You meet Boosie. How does that go? I meet Boosie. We link up. You know what I'm saying? We was in the studio one day. He was like, look, man, I like your ground. He said, man, wherever I met you at. Wow. She said, come on. That's a favor. He said, I rock with you, bro. I'm a family. I rock with you. And he respected me. We just been cool ever since. So that's a dope, dope way to be. So he's seen the grind in you. Yeah. And me and him managers, you know, we so cool. I know he's shouting. Yeah. Yeah. So it's all love. Yeah. I was on the phone with shout about a month or so ago when I was trying to get Boosie made about two months ago. Yeah. You know, me and him, me and sir Charles will be out there at birthday bands. Charles will be out there. I suppose it's been out there. Jackson, Mississippi, I suppose it's been out there. There's some things happening right now, but I ain't going to speak on them. But I suppose it's been, I suppose it's been doing some stuff out there. Right. But if I do it, if I don't, that's still a dope event, man. Yeah. And it's just a blessing for you to be out there. So you already been asked to be on the, on the show. Yeah. But to see, again, it's a thing. Charles will be here. I'll be there. I don't, I don't got books somewhere else. Like a thousand miles away. Wow. Wow. And getting on the pray and getting here and getting there kind of real. But you know, we may have to, you know, this a day show. I might be able to make it to Jackson about nine. Yeah. Does all of that traveling take a toll on you? No, I love this shit. I love it. Because one thing I always looks at people who is in the entertainment business. It's like how you said, it might be a day show and you can jump on a plane and be over here. So sometimes it's not like you over here and you stay over here till tomorrow. Sometimes you'd be jumping. Okay. As soon as it's finished, I got to go over here. I got to do this. I got to, and that be days that you're doing that. Yeah. But it's just like, like I said, I brought the dope gang to the rap gang. They're like, do it over here. Want something to do? Do it over here. Want something to do? I got to go make all these things. I got to make money. I know what I got to do at the end of the day. But the difference is, okay, when you rap or you sing, you got to take care of your voice. I don't. I rap. I don't got to do nothing. I don't got to drink no certain type of water. None of that. I don't got to do nothing. I don't got to do anything. I don't got to do anything. I want to understand how do you link up with Boosi for the bash. There's a lot of different people and bear with me. There's a lot of different people that want to be on that bash. Your guy is one of the names on that bash. Right. How do bad news, how he get the call or do Boosi just call you, or your manager work it out. Man, on that type of level up, man. Cause y'all been knowing each other so Yeah, we've been I get it. You know what I'm saying? Cause we all like a circle of family. You know, he call Bootsy and nephew. Yeah. So he just make the calling, you know. You know, he the king. Who go tell the king now? That's right. That's right. So I just, that's all I wanted to know. So, so, okay. How did you meet Sir Charles? Did you, you didn't even go on? No, no, I'm going to get to that. But I want to know how him and, uh, okay. You knew Bootsy. Yeah. But Sir Charles didn't know Bootsy. You, we feel the walk up to that. He met Bootsy first. Yeah, I met Boots back then. See what I'm saying? I'm walking with him. I see what he's going with. Yeah. I'm walking with him. I know, I'm watching what's going on. Cause I know already that that relationship and that buildup happened before 10 months ago. Right. So you see what I'm saying? So you did that on your own. You had a lot of self-starter in you. And that's what I'd be trying to figure out with all these artists that say they want to be in music. You got to have some go get in you. You got to be smart enough to make, make people recognize that you a hustler. It's a hustling what you see. You got to make them respect you, bro. Exactly. You got to let them know you go, go get it. Either way, it's going. That's the whole game. So when you said that, it really, it's in volumes. Like, okay, I know that you a real live hustler when it come down to making something happen. Cause anytime you say it in your mind, I'm going to meet these people surrounding Bootsy. Even though Bootsy may be locked up. Man, I ain't been in a circle, but I know that's his circle. So, and that's faith too. Yeah. And I know he said that. Did you remember what I just said? Faith. No, that's faith. My favorite for sure, but faith. Cause you don't know Bootsy going to get out. Yeah, bro. You don't believe in yourself. Did you hear what I just said? You don't know that girl. Until I heard that little girl say, he coming home today. He coming home today. I told y'all this, I thought boy, she got older too, man. So how, how was it when, when Bootsy, and I'm skipping a little bit, but when Bootsy got shot in Dallas, how did that impact you? Like, what did you think? Believe it or not, bro. I had, they caught my plane that morning. Okay, from Dallas? From Dallas. I get out the plane and they say Bootsy shot in Dallas. On the same in the state I was looking at. Wow. From a balcony. You see what I'm saying? I said, man, this is crazy, man. That why I'd be like, I want the money. I don't want the fame, bro. I want to still be able to walk into the mall with my kids and kick it with my mama. Like the unsent? Yeah, man. Nah, man. I don't want no security with me here where I go. I don't want no security here. Okay, so you still didn't tell me how it affected you. Did you, like, dang, man. That's my boy. Did you try to check on him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? I'm just digging. I mean, it affected me like, I was most scared by him losing the leg, bro. I thought about that. And that conferred diabetes, bro. Because he had diabetes already. That's what I was more worried about. I'm like, man, this man lose his leg, bro. This man lose his leg. Cause I know what this man I've been through, man. Folks can say what they want about Boots, man. But Boots got a hard to go, man. Boots will help you if you can, bro. Now, you see us on that wall right there. And I'm gonna tell you something. Boots will help you if you can. He wanted the ones that I like it because he kinda like me. What you see is what you get. Yeah, man. Ain't no faking and shaking. He gonna lay it down the way it's supposed to be laid down when you meet me, right? See, a lot of folks say that about it. He see some flour and he ain't gonna rock with you. He gonna drive him out the fuck out of you, you know what I'm saying? He ain't gonna, you say something like he be an arrogant. He just feel that fake shit, bro. Wow. That's dope, man. I like that. He just feel that fake shit. Yeah. So, lead us up to... Sir Charles. We, he gave us a little bit of the story. Sir Charles told us kinda how he met him. But I wanna hear your side. I wanna hear it from your side of the story. So, I had just dropped the R&B album. It was called Rhythm and Bad. Okay. I was trying something because we was sitting at the ranch. I said, man, what can we do to stand out and be different, bro? Like, I'm tired of doing gangster rap, you know what I'm saying? I'm tired of not knowing you gonna leave a show. I gotta get on my chair, man. So, I tried R&B... How many kids you have? You just got two? No. How many you have? He said no. Look how he looking. How many you got, bro? How many you got, bro? Eight? No. That boy got eight is a no, baby. Papa was a rolling stone. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that boy got eight is a baby. Wherever he lay this hat was a no. And when he... But father was a rolling stone. Ain't that rolling, bro? How old is the youngest one? Be fruitful and multiply. Eight? Eight. Yeah. How old is the oldest? 20. Wow. That's dope, man. That's dope, boy. You done? Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. Cause eight year old is the youngest. I mean, it's been a while, so... Savage life. Now, he's savage life for real. And you mind you yourself? Well, what? That's what I don't think I'm having. Nope, not having no more. Cause one be badder than him. Well, I know what I'm bombin' him with. How many boys, how many girls? Five and three, five boys, three girls. Hey, eight is enough. And you got the boys, that's all. And you got the girls. Man, I got a basketball team and three on the side. Hey. So let's get to this Sir Charles story. So you basically, you already rappin'? Yeah. You already trying to figure it out still? Yeah. I did the R&B. And I said, I told my manager, Mr. G shot at Jeff, huh? I said, look, bro. I said, I'm finna reach out to Sir Charles and do a blues song. He said, make it tough. I got it. You know the little short dude over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I talked to him on the phone. Yeah. He was like, man, I said, bro. I said, I'm finna hit this man up. I said, bro, they can't say with two things. Y'all so know. That's my mind, man. You can't say with two things. Yes or no. So, boom, I hit him up. I said, hey, man. Y'all, y'all, I'm new with him from Phoenix City. I'm trying to do a verse with you. He was like, yeah, yeah, okay. Give me a thousand dollars. I was like, all right, when you ready? He made like, you see her? I'm like, yeah. You're like, you ain't know where I'm at. I said, you too far. I catch a plane. Wow. You know what I'm saying? You're like, I'm in Yachty, Yachty, Boom, Boom. I said, oh, there ain't nobody I don't have for me. I said, I'm on the way. Super Nandrick. He was like, you serious ain't it? I'm like, yeah, dude, what's up? You know what I'm saying? So he shot me to Nandrick. I get he thought one of them crazy fans trying to find out where he stay at. So he sent me to the mountain and shot out to Jay. I gave him an address. I pulled up there. Him and Jay came up with the hook right at that. Him and Jay shot at Jermaine Ray. Now I'm just listening to that ride or die. That's a dope song, man. So he in the record, he like, you ain't gonna take all day with your verses. I'm like, nah, I'm through. You know what you mean? You through. I said, here they go right here. He said, you just started. I said, I'm through. You ready? So. That boy, that boy over there. Shot the three fifth on the beats, man. He felt the beat so much. He went in and put his own little thing in it. That how bad he felt the beat. So we record the song. He like, man, it's something about you, dude. He said, I'm finna say it in your life, man. He said, I'm finna brand you on in that family, man. I said, hi. I said, I'll do a doing a song. I said, I can't do no old Southern shoulder blue album. He said, man, I'm the king. You can do what you want to do over here. He said, but I'm gonna break it down to you how to do it. He said, by the end of the year, 2022, then you gonna be a superstar. He said, it go come so fast, you ain't gonna believe that what he told me. Yeah, no, he ain't lying. Man, I'm in book to pay a nine-month every weekend, man. I know it. And that's dope. I'm here to get off a plane in that line and try to kick 30 minutes of my little boy football game while I get back on another plane. Wow, but you wanted it? Yeah, I want an ankle plane here. The ankle plane here. Wow. Every time they see me, they have to be. Hey, daddy. Wow. With that hand. Already, man. They show it. What do you see the thing that I look at? Well, I look at is the fact that you miss out on so much in their lives because you out there getting it. You don't get to spend the quality time. You know what I mean? But the good thing about that, I ain't miss but nine, 10 months of it. I don't been to the risk. So. See that? Yeah. They know what's going on. Y'all know y'all getting on with it. Y'all know what y'all think. Y'all want it in life. Now y'all know what Christmas come around. Daddy, if I go by y'all, four, five, four, wasn't that what I had in them? Mmm. Do all that song. You know what I'm saying? Mmm-hmm. So you came and you met Sir Charles and did you have any inkling? Did you have a clue of what was about to happen? How was it going to happen? No, man, because, okay, when he told me that, it ain't dwell on me till I got like an hour from at house. You know how Instagram tagging in on the post? Yeah. They said, Sir Charles Jones tagged you on the post. I said, I was like, go to read it. He's like, hello Instagram fan, I'm on the welcome to the family. My first artist got bad news, three, three, four, it's time for the world to see what you made of. When he clicked that, and I seen about a howl they there, like five, six thousand views, I got like nine, nine or a thousand. People ain't gonna add on me and shit. I'm like, wow. You know, a lot of times when you think about just the blessings of God, man. I always take everything back to God. Yeah, that's where it started. When you think about the blessings of God, man, and what God has in store for you, you, it's been written, but you can't understand how it's happening. Right, right, right, right. Some people say you can't see the picture from being in the picture. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I couldn't believe it, man, because when he did that, oh, the first time he brought me on stage, real, I was scared to hell. You had never did it like that? Not no Southern soul. Yeah, yeah, because you didn't know how they was gonna accept you. No, when he brought me on stage, he did a speech on me talk about the folks and he made them drop my singing when it was born. Soon the song dropped the folk that went crazy. Wow. I was like, what the hell? I didn't know this song, I didn't even release this. They just loved it. They just felt the vibe. Yeah, it been on there since. Wow, so, and this was in what city? Verbena, Alabama, and Alabama, Verbena, Alabama. And he dropped it right there. He dropped it right there. Yep. And I didn't even know he was gonna live in Ica and I had been to like three, four shows and I wasn't expecting him to, you know what I'm saying, that to go on. So just in case y'all don't know what's happening right here, let me break this down for y'all, man. My boy Bad News is in the building, man. Just so you guys understand, he is a Southern soul rapper. So Southern soul has a lot of, see, let me tell y'all something else. Y'all don't cover Southern soul either. I'm the only one. This podcast right here is different than most. Boss Talk podcast 101 loved the Southern soul. We in the South. And so we couldn't do it no other way. And we didn't just get, you know, anybody. We got the best of anybody that you could get because he got songs with Sir Charles Jones. He got songs with Poke Barrel. He got songs and they dope. It ain't just no trash. Y'all know, y'all know. Let's go, no, no. And I seen your grandma on that porch. Yeah. That's grandma. I know, I know that with grandma. That red brick house. Yeah, red brick house. Look, hey, man, don't blame me. I'm watching what's going on, man. See, this is what I do right here, all right? I really care about what I'm talking about here. And I wasn't going to get you on here and not understand where you was coming from. Because I know about grandma. Grandma died for me a long time ago, both of my grandma. And to be honest with you, man, that's a bond that you got to respect and you got to keep understanding the connection. Is she still living? Yes, she is. Man, 91, man. So you going home frequently? Yeah, man, bro. When I'm there, I'm there. When you there, you there? Well, huh. And I can't blame you for that, man. So I got to sell them bed for bed room, huh, bro? I sleep on her couch when I'm there, bro. You ain't even trying to hear it? Mm-mm, I don't want to hear it. So supply. Well, how did you guys come up with supply? Man, you want to know the crazy part about supply, bro? That's you and Sir Charles, right? It was supposed to be Sir Charles and Ben and Segal. OK. Sir Charles, he said one night, he called me late one night, like three-thirty more, and he like, Nell, I'm going to send him a concert playing all night about this song. He was like, Ben and Segal keep him in want me to do this song for him. I got the song, he heard it, but he need me to send a break now, he said. But some keep telling me this song for me and you. And it really is playing in your life. And he sent me that hook. I sent that song back in 25 minutes. Wow. I said, nah, I ain't going to be dirt. I said, you listening to mine and listening to him, whatever you go with, I ain't tripping. That's right. I'm signing up on you. I want to see your boat eat. So if you send him, we go eat. That's right. It's a family, bro. There were a lot of folk feel it real, like everybody want to be greeted. Man, that man look after me in so many ways, bro. Ain't nothing I want to do for that man. I already know it. You know what I'm saying? Well, shout out to Sir Charles, who hooked me up. It ain't none of y'all being this, but he hooked me up with stuff. And we, you know, trade our stuff. That's my guy, man. Ever since that day, you know, we had a lot of run-ins after that. Yeah, man. And I love that dude, man. He didn't have to open his door to me and my wife like he did. He real, bro. And I ain't going to never forget it. God opened doors, no man can shut, man. And that man came into our life and he been 100. When I text him, he might not get back to me right then, but he's going to get back to me. And he would get upset about somebody if they didn't do right by me, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. You know, he didn't play about it. Once we linked in, man, Sir Charles Jones. Once he locked in with you, bro. Hey, man, he been straight up with me, man. And that's why I've been like, man, I got to get to him. I'm going to get him. I'm going on that show. Wherever he had to be, I'm going to run up on that thing. But no, man, so you guys linked up and when you guys linked up, it was just the songs Ride or Die, the way you guys came in on that one was even dope. Man. You know what I'm saying? That was a dope move. Yeah. So how long did y'all process that for me? Man, that ride or die, man. That's the song that he signed me with. I know that. You told me that, but process it for me. Let me know. It was like, he was like, what kind of song you want to make? I said a song that just, I didn't want to explain a woman. Because you went into it a little bit, but I just know that for y'all to connect, you didn't give me everything. Yeah, I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm going to give it to you the way it is, bro? He said, what kind of song you want to make? I was like a song just describing a female that's all the way down for you. You know, Uncle Jay was like, ride or die, I got a hook for him. Search all the songs on that hook. And then it went in on it. I got it. Yeah, and the rest was history, man. Stop playing with him. You really can't play with that man, man. That man really changed the whole process of blues and to make it Southern blues. It was a transitional phase, man. Yeah, he did it, man. And we needed him too, so we could keep listening to that music. If it weren't for him, I wouldn't be here, bro. I already know it, man. That's what I'm grateful for. Are you feeling me? Yeah. Big boat. I mean, I'm a poker bear. How did y'all link up to do that? Oh, search all. Really? You know what I'm saying? I met him out there in Tampa, Florida at a show with search all that we clicked, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, he from Louisiana. You know how you used to be without him, boy, Louisiana. We got to talk online, man. We need to do something. You know what I'm saying? He was like, yeah, okay. I'm like, what you charge? You know what I'm saying? He gave me his price. We went from there, went to Louisiana to the studio. Wow. And made history. Wow, that's dope, man, that you're able to link in with these people, man, and it makes sense. Yeah. It got to make sense, man. If it didn't make sense, you wouldn't be doing it, man. The club wouldn't be making no dollars. There it is. So do you feel like when you, how do you feel when you walk on the porch of that brick house, man? That maroon? Because I said, man, I don't wanna know the history of that house. That ain't where you got shot and came into that house. Yeah, on the side of that house. Stop playing. That is the side of that house right there. Yes, sir. When I looked at it and I said, boy, that house got history. I knew it. Yep. And my grandma, my daddy, brick that house. My grandma, that house been up since 1904. Wow. Yep, 1904. What grandma say, Ted, she done told you some stories about that house. Man, man, she shot her husband in that house. See what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. He didn't die that, right? What did she say? Yeah, he died. She killed him? He's dead. Wow. She was serving no time. Mm-mm. Self-defense. 1953. Self-defense. Yeah, I believe it was a beautiful relationship. Wow. So she's still here. She been through a lot. Yeah. Man, missy. She did drink her moonshine. She did drink it. That's a strong woman. Man, when I was young, bro, you know how them old people, I always wanted to be the first people in that church? Had us on the front row, would I know? Be the last person to eat church. Soon we get on that little one street, she got caught lying on the street. The neighborhood bootlegger. I love it. Selling candy, liquor, bill. I'm like, now grandma, what? Man, you're a business. Man, you're a business. This is your mama problem now. I was another folk business. That's dope right there, brother. Boy, you can't take that away. That ain't something, see, that's how you know this brother right here and he come up like me, old country boy. Oh, yeah. Y'all, you know, the boys say she was selling moonshine. I call it white lightning. Did she put it in the- In the drawer? Y'all, I mean, did she ever put them in them jumbotta? In a secret, in a secret bottle, man. She did it, didn't she? Y'all, she had a whole box on her, a whole case on the corner, stacked it down. Boy, that's what I'm talking about, man. I'm telling you to get your own drum, man. Shout out to our Casati, man, baby. They're using drinking straight up and down, man. Yeah, it's up, man. Man, so when you, did you ever try to, I tried drinking it when I was three years old. I tried it, bro, once, I stole something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I go. And you couldn't do it. That's how I learned my lesson. I was sick for three days. I knew it that they ain't over your ears. How much did you drink? I drank a big swallow. Caught you to see the bootlegger, they'll get a little shot. Oh, let me get another one, Fanny. So I'm like, okay. Let me get another one, Fanny. They wouldn't say it to myself. But I hit that thing, that thing, it burnt so hard. I said, ooh, start slobbering out of my snot, start coming up with no, ooh. I said, oh, oh, boy. Boy, yeah. You know when you start doing your mouth in the gray, I'm like, you're just trying to, trying to get it off you, boy. I had wrote down, feeling me, I say, part in on these yachts, living life to the fullest. And you just come back from Hawaii, nigga. I said, boy, that nigga, he livin' his life best life. I'm livin' in my best life. Hallelujah. Man, so when you think about just the music where it is today versus when you were selling CDs, because you was in that era too. I was still in. Okay, but I'm talkin' about when it was first, like when it was really, wasn't nothing else. Yeah. Come on now. Yeah, yeah. It was just you and the car and the truck and maybe I handle a C2, nigga, give me five, give me $10. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me something about that. I said, see, and like back then, I was always a hustler. Like, I hit all the flea markets, bro. You know all the flea markets, everybody got CDs there, huh, man? Here go my number, man. Say it even 10, you keep sellin', shoot me three. Who ain't gonna wanna do that? They gonna want that. They gonna get it out there for them, because you gotta think about you're gettin' 1,000 CDs for $200, man. That's some mentality. I go to every, you know Atlanta got all the flea markets. Heck yeah. Man, I know every African out there. You gotta have it goin'. Huh, man? Every time. Yeah, they be talkin' about streaming. I ain't worry about no stream. Yeah, yeah. I get mine out, shows and the ECD. Well, they said in streaming, when you think about it, they say a million streams is $4,000. Exactly. You can do that quick. A million CDs is a million. You sellin' that $1. See that? You see that? So you gotta be smart, don't you? Yeah, man, you gotta think about it, man. I sent three folks here, at Atlanta, here's three to South Memphis, three to Colorado, three to New York, three to Canada, everybody meet in the middle. By the time y'all hit all these little cities about four, five months, everybody gon' know me. Wow, that's dope, man. So I know you keep saying a lot that search artists have done a lot for you. He educated you with a lot of things with the business and so forth. Have you found someone that you try to pass that on to them? Like try to help somebody that could be under you could educate them about the business? Cause you always wanna pass on what you've learned, what God has blessed you with. I mean, I tried it, you know what I'm saying? But I'm glad I ain't give them too much of the business cause they're crossing, yeah? Wow. So now I'm kinda stiff on that cause I'm big on Lord. So I really just stay in my lane and just do what I gotta do for me now because when I did do that, I got crossed out by a dude. Now he got crossed out by his dude and I'm still up. That's why I say, look at God. So to answer that question now, I don't really think I'd do that again but I got a couple partners that I work with and we'll show them the game but I ain't gonna go too deep with it with them, you know what I'm saying? Because you never know cause I never thought they'd do it with a dude. We grow it up together from five, six years old to for some music to cross us and you've been doing music since we were 12. And yeah, we 30 now and I bring you in and doing you cross me. Ain't done something. Yeah, and then they be wanna talk, there ain't no talk man. No. You don't cross me, I don't got no word for you. I wish you the best but just stay around me dawg. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Just stay around me dawg. Yeah, so do you feel like, you know, with the music the way that it is now, how do you stay relevant in these times? I know you've been doing it and a lot of people wanna be where you at. These people can't get shows. A lot of people say they got fake views and they out here trying to figure it out and they trying to trick you, fake it till you make it. You know I'm telling the truth. You ain't lying but see I got two dudes I roll with. You gonna see me on some show with. Willie Mac, 350, I got one man J-Riz on my label make outside of Sir Charles and poking out him. You know what I'm saying? Because I know they're solid and they rhyme, you know what I'm saying? They're dead when I ain't had nothing. And they don't help me out in certain aspects because the dude I brought in ain't helped me on anything for real, you know what I'm saying? He was talented. You know I ain't never taken that from nobody. He was talented but you weren't getting where you had to go. I got you on another level and you crossed them. You thought you seen another open door now that door closed. That door he got a lock on it now bro. She know what I'm saying? Had an opportunity. And they got do not enter and enter at your own risk. Wow. So your answer is at your own risk. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no, I get it man. It's hard to try to, you know, build something back up when it's crossed you. It's hard to sit in the chair when it broke on you already. Yeah. You don't want to sit back in that chair because you fail. And I got like, I got a lady, she hosts my shows. Anytime I got a show, she hosts them. You know what I'm saying? It's a family thing, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Stephanie Baptiste. Man. Poco Jones, it's a family thing. Like if I got a show, she go host it. If she get having something that could bring me in, she go bring me in, you know what I'm saying? And like, I don't understand everybody don't like rap. You know what I'm saying? In Southern Soul. But a lot of them forget Beside Theyself, bro, with all those shots. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And y'all see me on hell humble. Yeah. Y'all think, cause I'm so positive and I bet, bro, this ain't been me all my life. Already. I'm just a change man. Me and Poco Jones got a song called Change Man. But don't make me go back to that old man, bro, you know what I'm saying? I try to be her like Stephanie, she like new, just killing with kindness and killing with silence and killing with success. Now I want to kill her with a nine. Cause they keep calling my name, right? I ain't saying that to these folk, man. You don't like Southern, rapping Southern's so cool. But they still rock it. You don't like to keep putting it on this person, post that person. But you know, let me say something to you bad news. That's what the devil do is try to trick you out of your position. Right, right. You know the better position than the guys you're probably even talking about. So you can't get caught up in that to what. That's deep, that's deep man. Listen man, don't let the devil trick you out of your position. It has nothing to do with the people that's talking about you either. Yeah. It's a spiritual thing to work. Charles, I'm saying, he said, man, look, you've been in here for 10 months. Defoe been in here for 10, 15 years. Look how you moving, bro. That's what I'm telling you. So don't do that. That's what happened when 50 Cent trick Jiru out of his position. He could have just been rapping with them women. Just, you know what I'm talking about, but he didn't. He wanted to grab them out of the mouth. So now you're a gangster. You just left that alone. Well, you would get millions out of love. Why would I even do it? You were the best at it too. Couldn't nobody rock with them women like Jiru. And you got all that money. And you left 50 Cent. And 50 Cent been on the air sent. And 50 ain't letting you trick out of him out of his spot. And he's still bashing folks. And it's good though. And 50 Cent is a whole nother beast, man. It's OK to like, see, people wanted you to pick between Jiru and 50 Cent, but it's OK to like Jiru and 50 Cent. Both of them are different. 50 Cent is more of a business smoker. And people didn't want to realize that, even when he did that water deal. You know what I'm saying? Invite him in the water deal, you know? Man, that man gets on my money, man. And now he's showing you on this new movie, all this different stuff that he doing. Bro, ain't nobody can rock with that boy like he doing it, man. Get that man his roses while you're here. I swear to God, man. You know what I'm saying? That man real with it, bro. Yo, he wrong now. Ain't nobody doing what he doing. Ain't nobody doing 50 Cent, man. And he still can do what he want to do on a negative end. That nigga's bad, dawg. I got to give it up to him. I ain't seen nobody like it, bro, man. Shy to 50, man. So is there anybody else that you haven't worked with that you'd like to work with? Yeah. Who? Patti LaBelle. Man, give it up, bro. That would be different. See, I think I'd make a difference. See, I think money. That would be something different. Bad news on the song with Patti LaBelle. Who went by that evening they did, like they didn't want to hear what she saying or we saying. Wow. You know what I'm saying? A lot of folks don't want to talk about who poppin' now in the region going on now. Legendary. Legendary. Longevity. Longevity. Song gonna be here. Uh-huh. And if I were to do a rap song, Drake. Drake to show. Everybody says Drake. Yeah, it's the money. It's the money. It's the money. Top three artists of all time did or live. Any genre. Any genre. Pop. Only three. Pop. Number two. Soldier Slim. See, I'm different now. Okay. I said any genre. I didn't just say rap either. Okay. Number three. Say, Pop. Soldier Slim. Number three. Sir Charles. Sir Charles. Man, I love that dude, man. That nigga there, man. I love the nigga before he even came on my show. Home bro. And then when I met him, he confirmed it. See, I done met people that didn't confirm it. You see what I'm saying? When you done met everybody, you have a, I have been a fan of people and I actually care like, dang man, I'm gonna be happy when I meet him. When I met him, it wasn't even what I thought and it was a condescending. I mean, it was an anti-climatic event. I get a little deep. Ooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell? An anti-climatic event. Good. I thought it was gonna be good. But when I got there, Talk to him. And let me down like a movie when you go and you got, damn, it wasn't as good as I thought it was gonna be. The trailer look all good. Yeah, and then you get there and I meet the guy and I'm like, damn man, this messed my whole thing. I wish I hadn't met him. Right, right. Because if I hadn't met him, I still had that genuine love for him. But now I see what type of sucker he is. Yeah, yeah. That wasn't like the Sir Charles as a gentleman and a scholar and a legend, bro. Legend. A legend. I'm gonna put that out there and I don't care who don't like it. King. Real talk. Just want somebody to show you that love like that. And they don't want to give my boss a problem, man. Man, it's a man. You know we want to give him a problem, man. You better get that man and fly away, he'll go. I just said that. You gotta get it to him. Man, I can't wait to see him back on here. So it was one more song I wanted to ask you about too. It was Rare Breed. Yeah, that Rite of Die. Yeah. See, I didn't know that. Rite of Die, Rare Breed. I looked at it and I seen the title of Rite of Die, I think on one and then I seen Rare Breed on the other. What was it? Why did it come up with two different? Because we didn't know what we wanted to name. We didn't know what we wanted. I said, let's just put both of them out there. Whatever they call it, that what they go call it. Wow. They call it Rite of Die, Rare Breed. Man. That would work for me. That would work. Say, how's that food down there in Alabama, man? Man. What do they know for down there in your hometown? Can we go through, is that, where is it? Albinathe? Birmingham. We be on downtown. We don't have a soul food, man. Okay. What you know about a Boston butt? I ain't not. That's what we trying to figure out. Never heard that. It's a piece, it's meat, barbecue. It's just a big old round piece of meat. When you smoke for about 10 left miles, you just cut off and then eat it. A Boston butt. Boston butt. Wow. Boston butt. So you think they got the best barbecue down there? Nah. What a best barbecue at? Hill. You think so? Hill or Memphis? Hill or Memphis? Yeah, here. Memphis got that sauce, boy. Where, you say here, where here you like that barbecue? Well, I ate some homemade barbecue. Oh, good. You know, Sir Charlie them got their truck, you know, him and Uncle Bookham. Yeah. I done had some of that barbecue. And it went down. What? Yes, it did, boy. And I don't suppose it'd be important. Why, could you a Muslim? No. Uh-uh, hell no. I just asked it, I don't know what. I just, I just have to stay away from makeup. It takes too much to get that weight off your energy, man. And I get the gym every day. I know when I eat pork it takes so long that it's gonna come out, man. Wow. You see? Beef dude, too. Beef. I eat a lot of ground turkey and stuff. Wow. Yeah, so, you know, if you could go back and talk to the younger you. If you was. The younger me? Yes. If you could go back and talk to you. You know what I'm saying, don't go over there and steal that. And I don't know when he was little. I'm talking about when he was 17, 16. When he was about to go through, getting out of high school before he probably went to, got, went to that roadblock. What would you say to you to try to help you to change because of where you was headed? And I always say. What would I say to me? Yeah. You should have told mama, no. When she said take the car. Hell yeah. No. You know what? I always said, if I was talking to me and I, I know how I was, I wouldn't feel listen to me. I wouldn't feel listen, no damn body. Think about that for a minute. You to come talk to me and I didn't know you was me. I was like, I'll steal the deal that did it anyway. See what I'm saying? You gonna be like, hey, oh no. Nigga get out of here. Who is you? You gonna drop the baby off so you're gonna drop these rocks off. Say man, so. Hey man, we love you brother. Man, love y'all too. Thank y'all. How can people, how can people get a hold to you, man? Ah man, you can all get a hold of me on all social media platforms at Bad News 334. That's B-A-D-D-E-N-E-W-Z 334, all music platform. You wanna book me, contact Jeffery Hunter at 334-560-6807. Let's get it. So who was, I know I asked you this before we get off of here. When you, I know you've been with Sir Charles but who have you seen over these months? And you met him and you was like, damn, I'm glad I got to meet him. You see what I'm saying? Cause you run into different people doing different shows, being different places. I'm Bad News now. I'm affiliated with Southern Soul. Who did you meet that you was like, damn, when you met him it was like, damn, this is dope. Bobby Rush? Bobby Rush. I met Bobby Rush, man. And he sat me down and talked to me. He like, man, I've been watching you. I've been seeing what you're doing. He like, man, you changing the game. He said, don't let nobody downplay you, bring you down to a lower level. When they talking about you, they thinking about you. He said, keep doing what you're doing. You had this arena with me right now. He said, they probably on Facebook somewhere talking about you. Yeah, yeah. He said, take them, hate us as blessings, cause they keep me relevant. Wow, you and Bobby Rush linked up just like that. And when I met, no, a new part of my man had met Casino. Shout out to Casino. Shout out to Casino. Yeah, he just brought me in. He like, man, I got you. He's like, man, I used to do rap. He said, I feel where you coming from in this show. So he said, they go respect. He said, your grand, can't nobody stop your grand? He like, we got you. They been a man they were there since. Wow. It's just dope to have a good family around. From Churchill, to Casino, to Uncle Jermaine Ray, to Jeff Ruhon. Ain't none of them lie to me bro. Whatever they say they will go do, they done did it. From Polkabare and all alone. Wow. Polkabare, he said, man, it's all about being in a relationship. I love Polkabare. Ever since I met that nigga. Man, when we did that song and I broke bridge with that man, he said, man, you being in a relationship. He said, man, I got you. He said, I love your girl. And every time he do a show, he like, y'all want my nephew? They say, yeah, he bring me on. Wow. That's dope because. Country Wayne just shared that stuff, bro. Me and Polkabare video. Country Wayne and that girl. I know it. I seen that. Bro. Bro, remember I told you we was on the phone. I said, I've been talking back to the road. Yeah, she shared. And for him, I ain't know who she was. And you know, she the same woman that played Big 50, Remi and Mom. Grandmom on the movie. That Remi and Mom started with the Deron Hood store. Wow. Inside the Big 50. Deron Hood store. Because, you know, she got my music in the movie. So I bring Remi and Mom and Tate. And Ro, she didn't even know that was my song. And we was all in the movie premiering everything together on the BET Real Club. She didn't even know that was me. Wow. And so Country Wayne, how did that make you feel? Because Country Wayne got crazy followings, right? So how did that make you feel that they, I followed her. So I seen it when she posted it. And then you talked that morning. It was like six in the morning. Me, you was up early. Hustle, man. I be up every morning, early. She know it. I'm up at two, three in the morning. The answer to that question, I'm gonna go after that question. You know what I thought? Show Money and Prices just went up. Because he wrote like, I didn't even know it, bad news. Like, he was like, I think I told you that. You told me that she had posted it. I told you that. I said, you know it. Yeah, I told him. I was like, man, that was a, I said, man, because I always be texting Ro because I be trying to get a, like when I come to Atlanta, I'm gonna interview you. And she always hit me back. Shout out to Ro, man. You're a real one. I know that because she didn't have to. And then I emailed and everything. Tell the poster again. So, so why did you make you like, dang, for real? Like, and went down that rabbit hole, man. And then, and then in big fifth car, she like, I told you, God, go bless you, boy. He's like, she said, I got your back new. Man, big fifth, I rock with big fifth, man. Wow. Real trap queen. She signed in at home, bro. You gotta get on this radio show, bro. We gonna do it, man. You gotta get on the radio show, man. We gonna do it, man. I'm going to Atlanta the next month on the 20th. She in Detroit. Yeah. I'm going to Detroit, man. Yeah, this one on the 20th. We gotta go to Detroit. She a girl? Let's set it up. Man, you gonna set it up. You seen the movie? Uh-uh. I'm for the watching, though. Yeah. It's streaming number one. See? The Del Ronda Hood store. Wow. It's on BTN, BTN. Based on the true story. Yeah, based on big fifth. The Del Ronda Hood store, yup. We can get on here, man. Yeah, man. That's what I'm telling you. Like, that's why I know when I, like, I went at you hard. Like, I gotta get you on the show. Can we say it some? Yeah. We gotta do it. That's what I'm telling you. I didn't go back to what I told you about. I said, that's being a relationship. That's it. So when we say it at that date. And we made it happen. I said, man, I gotta get on show. And I hit him back. Cause I kept asking the searcher, I said, if he tell you, come and he coming. And I'm like, well, hell, I don't, I think, man, you hadn't talked at that time. Yeah. I had, I didn't know your managers. Right. I just knew you. Right. And I knew the searcher, which gets me nowhere, really. Because y'all go through y'all managers. And that's what you posed to do. Yeah, yeah. And we chatted. Then you gave me the manager number still. And I still respected it. You know that. I called both of them. You haven't called two people. I said, I'm calling whoever you tell me to call. Cause I just want to, you know, I thank y'all for blessing the platform. I thank y'all for coming. I thank y'all for having me, bro. You know what I'm saying? People don't know how, how real it is down here in the South, man. Right. You know, I'm real, real. And I'm, I'm real funny about y'all. I don't play about y'all. Cause I know niggas everything. These other hoods don't do it like this. This ain't something they even, they don't even know how to handle it. They don't rock with other souls. I do. And I'm going to continue to rock with it cause that's who I am. I listen to blues. My wife know that. I can't come over here and be fake. I listen to rap. I ain't listen to a little country at work. You know what I'm saying? You gotta have all the jewelry, man. But at the end of the day, man, I just, I value the fact of the music and the history of the music and our people, man. I never forget what you guys do for me, man. And see what I'm making you different. You rocking with all the jewelry. They were going to take both talk to the top. Man, you know what, man? You know what I'm saying? God is good. That's all I can say and I receive it. It's already spoken into existence. Say it, man. Boy, you tell grandma raise you right. It's already spoken into existence. Say it, man. Thank you. We love you, man. I appreciate y'all having me, man. Say it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.