 Well when we first met you were involved in doing a lot of leadership development stuff with the community through United Way in addition to the fundraising. That's one of the ways we really connected is over some events at United Way. So what have you learned about leadership and in addition to what you've learned about learning and doing, what have you learned about leadership and more importantly because we really believe here that our number one job as leaders is to develop future leaders coming up behind us. What have you learned about leadership but what have you learned about developing future leaders? Yeah so something I've learned about leadership there's a few key qualities that are important. I just finished reading Good to Great by Jim Collins and he talks about humility and when I think about some of the leaders that I admire they absolutely have that trait of humility.