 Holiday and Entropy. At Topo, I met the Lair talk, actually, in a while ago for Toppler that him and Sin did. Really good stuff to put on. It was actually at the Holiday Inn where we did the event last year. Good stuff. I met him, and as soon as I heard this guy speak, I was like, wow. It's got a really charismatic, really good vibe, a lot of stuff going on, really good content. He does, I guess his biggest thing is called the Red Stack. He does. It's been amazing. My friends have taken it personally. They said they loved it. And he just speaks to you now for a while. He talked about two hours, him and his buddies, and expect a lot of good content. Thanks for coming. Thank you. Yep. Uh, so hey. Hey, first off, I'd like to just say that I just got done eating lunch, and you always feel weighed down. What's up with that? But in any case, I'd like to thank you guys for coming, because this is an awesome event, as I don't know how many people of you guys came to the dinner last night, but it was a good vibe. Hopefully you guys got that. One of the reasons why I love coming and speaking is pretty much because I love the community. The community helped me. I've always been involved with stuff where people are coming together, and I like to bring that vibe to the table, as well as teaching you guys how to get late and all that other bullshit. But I'd like to thank all the other speakers, because I wasn't here the first day, but the last two days, we saw some awesome people. It was awesome seeing Adam was the first time I saw him speak. Awesome seeing me have first time I saw him speak. Sen, I've seen speak a ton of times. But what I wanted to do was I wanted to come here and give you guys a little bit of something to work with and take home with. So I handed out, or actually, Fidelio back there, handed out, handed you guys these little write ups and stuff. And basically what that goes through is there's going to be a few things that I want to talk about in my experience in the community that have to do with certain topics, like your motivations, your expectations, and your perspectives. So there's a little workshop deal there on the second page. If you take a look at that on the third page, there's some more dealing with that. On the second page, or on the third page, sorry, fourth page. I can't count. There's stuff, which is information about the stacks that I do, which everybody is always asking. In fact, at dinner last night, everybody was kind of hitting me up about that with my little circle and asked me about details about that. So if you want to know how I go about it, there's little profile questions there and then there's actually an example of somebody's story, which they gave me. What's interesting about this story, and it's actually all true from this guy, of course you don't have his name, but he gave me permission to use it. If you read it, it reads kind of like a DLV and that's kind of what I go for. It's like if you have whatever experiences in your life, you can actually make them sound good. And then beyond that, there's a contact page which has like your name and your email and phone. What city you live in and what you'd like to talk about on a phone consult, which means if you fill that out and tear it off and give it back to Fidelio, who is back there, we will contact you probably in the next 10 days and email you when you'd like to schedule like a 15 minute phone consult with myself or a few other people who I work with. So that's kind of a good deal. But what I wanted to talk about in this speech actually has to do with a little bit different stuff. I came into the community about, well I read the game. I read the game probably a little over two years ago and what I did was actually, I never read the whole thing, I read part of it. And I was given to me by my ex-girlfriend and she was like, ha, ha, this is some funny shit. And I read it and I'm like, yeah, dude these people look like freaks. And then immediately afterwards, I went online and looked it all up. And immediately I bought stuff and immediately I was looking at e-books and things like that. And actually all those e-books probably said everything right. I still have them somewhere. But I never did any of them. And so that was kind of the problem with it. And I went about nine months in that. Then I was like, dude, I gotta take a boot camp. And I finally took a boot camp and it was awesome. It changed my entire life. Sin was actually one of the instructors. Captain Jack, Ten Magnet, and one other dude who I don't know his little name deal. But it was an amazing experience and it changed my life. And when I started to get good at it, I happened to live in the same city as Captain Jack. And after about four months, I really started to get good with this thing and be able to actually approach and get numbers and get make-outs and all this stuff. And then Captain Jack was telling me, hey, do you're really good? Let me give you a few pointers. And I took them and I went with them and ran and got even better. And then they were like, hey, you could instruct. You could instruct with us. And I'll hook you up with Sin. And I started to instruct. And all these things happened and it got to so much to the point where, and I think everybody can relate with this, where you get to the point where you get fluent in it and you kind of wonder, man, am I doing the right thing? Or am I living the lifestyle I wanted? I just had this awesome night where I was sitting in VIP and fucking chicks were all over me and you go home and maybe you have a chicken you're better, maybe you don't. And it's just like, ah, shit. Life becomes somewhat unfulfilling. My background has always been, basically right now I'm 30. And when I was, well, yesterday, how many people are over 21 here? There's a bunch of you guys. How many people are over 25? All right, geez. How many people are 30? All right, yes! But in any case, you know, when I was thinking about this stuff and in my experience, I was always like a kid that got into a lot of trouble. I had an interesting childhood and I think everybody could relate with that. We all come from some sort of Jerry Springer society. And one of the things that has helped me a lot, even back then, because I had big changes which happened when I was around 17 to 20, used to be into a lot of drugs and shit and fucking up a lot of stuff. Of course, I didn't learn how to talk to women which lent me to end up here. But I learned kind of how to deal with certain things and I ended up having to kind of resurrect that in my time in the community here. And actually in the past, I'd say two months or so, I've had the fortune to work with a lot of students who've ended up kind of teaching me. And so one of the things I wanted to talk about were your motives coming into this, your expectations from it, and your perception of what the community is supposed to draw towards you. And so on that sheet, there's something which talks about those things. If you take the time while I'm talking to fill out some of the things of what you might have towards expectations or towards motives, towards gaming, towards your personal self, that would be positive and negative and how they're all neatly laid out there. And even your perceptions on things, we can get into that a little bit later. But let's see, where the fuck was I? I never, this never happens. When does any of you guys see me on stage when I start to freeze up? I always can talk. But so in any case, six weeks ago, I started working with a lot of guys that really helped me out and seen a lot of things and it made me look back. It made me look back to where I was in this point where shit man, why did I get involved in this? I wanted to be involved in the community basically when I signed up to meet people, to meet the women that I wanted and to have maybe multiple girlfriends. To be able to, I always had a cool identity. I worked as a photographer. I had traveled all around playing music. I had worked in film and theater quite a bit. And I always was surrounded by a lot of people yet at the same time I had a girlfriend that I always thought in the back of my head like man, maybe I could get somebody better or maybe, I like that girl over there but I don't know how to talk to her. And that all got solved for me about like five months in the community where I learned how to do that. But then later as my puaness arose, my motives and my expectations changed. I wanted to actually compete which can be a healthy motivator which can be something which you can use to empower. But at the same time I used it a little bit more to do that AMOG thing. And it's funny because the voice that I'm hearing from a lot of the instructors this time is more along the lines of like, hey, we respect each other. This is the first time that I've been involved with a lot of different people who teach in this thing where people are actually coming together. It was awesome to see yesterday when I saw a lot of the instructors come in and kind of drop some of that ego because I've always thought that was a weird thing about the community. And what happened was, God man, maybe about, I'd say like, right about at the turn of the year, I wasn't necessarily in the best space game-wise because as Adam said earlier yesterday, that game can be like a dangerous thing. It could be something where it is, you can use it in a lot of the wrong directions. And I definitely have. I mean, I can sit here and talk about a lot of the different stories, I guess, in terms of like different sexual escapades and screwing over this person and that person. But what I wanted to bring was that there's more to it. And that's kind of the essence of what I do with the stacks that I do. And so how many people here have heard about like what I write? Really? But basically what I write is if you give me like the story of your life, I kind of turned it into, I don't necessarily want to say a script, but I turned it into like a 90-page document of how to properly DHV yourself, properly talk about yourself, and also use stuff like framing and all sorts of interesting theoretical stuff, which actually Sid touched on a great deal yesterday, but like working qualification and cold reading and all that sort of stuff, into aspects about your life. But what people are always surprised about when they send me these profiles, and again, if you have time, read the one that I attached there, because they send me these stories and every time they tell me like, dude, are you gonna be able to work with that? You know, all this shit about my mom in the past, and actually the guys who I sent is pretty intense, but it's always a pleasure for me to be able to work with those things. And where that comes from is just, I think, my background, and where I see the community changing is going in that direction, where people are talking about intergame stuff. I hear Tyler and somebody who I respect very much in the community, I met him and spent a week with him in Hawaii, his TD, and he really changed my perspective on things. And it was actually at that turning point where I was like, dude, am I still gonna teach? Am I still gonna add something to this? Or am I going to just kind of stop because it's getting out of hand? And I don't know how many people there can relate with that. How many people have been involved in this for three months or more? And then how many people like six months or more? And so a lot of you guys can very fluidly kind of like open up sets, and you get that attraction stuff going, and it feels good, no? Yes, maybe so. And it feels good, and it's something which keeps you going. But at the same time, how many of you guys feel at the same time where you don't feel so great afterwards, where it's just kind of like a bummer? Nobody, huh? What the fuck? And how many of you guys, this is another thing that a lot of instructors will talk about is we've all done this and had awesome experiences with women, but at the same time, we've also had some terrible ones. In fact, my worst relationships have happened in the community, not outside of it. Anybody relate with that? This gentleman up here is the only honest man. But for me, so that was something that I wanted to, oh, I see you, I see you. But for me, it was something that I wanted to teach guys like, look, dude, we package this thing like we're teaching you guys how to get women, and that's great, and that's something which drew me to it. But at the same time, that only lasts for a couple months, that only lasts as food for us for a little bit of time. And what facilitates all those things, what makes your state work, which makes your attitude, your general presentation, which is that's what I feel attraction generally is. What propels that is your lifestyle, what you feel about yourself. And with myself, especially in the people who I've worked with and had the fortune to teach with and who've also ended up teaching me, is that I learned to take my experiences and things about myself and turn them into good things. Like, what's something that somebody out there is used as a motivator for themselves? Like to open up a set, anybody, not everybody once. You were horny. Which could be a positive motivator. Like sex is definitely a motivator, which is something which is healthy and good and we all feel it. But it's one of those things that is so core within us that can go in either direction. And it can manifest itself in so many different ways. And for myself, and as amazing as this community is, you can definitely take that and learn and it's somebody who's perverted, and I don't know if you guys have read my shit, but is perverted and kind of twisted, and that sort of way as myself, you can get kind of creative with it and you can end up in the wrong direction. What's something else that might be a good motivator? Right, and that's true, like I agree with that. And one of the things that I always think is important to keep in mind that when we come into points of changes with our life, it is at a point of desperation. And I hear that beaten into us in the community that look, this is your life and it's ending one second at a time. You need to open up that set, you need to man up, you need to propel yourself with generally that fear backing you up. And from my experience, and believe me, I bought into that just as much as everybody else, but from my experience is that your fears and motivators like that, yeah, that motivates you to change, but what maintains that change? What should maintain that change should be things that are a little bit more positive. Things that you could say is the same goes, it's not inspiration, it's desperation, which leads us to change, but what maintains that needs to be something of inspiration, it needs to come from a good place and the things that we don't focus on enough in the community are things which empower us in that sort of way. And I actually see it taking that different direction, that was one of the awesome things about seeing everybody speak is that I really didn't hear the same typical things that most instructors in this field talk about. But geez, in any case, so let's think of some positive motivators that might help us, that might help us like work and open up sets. What might they be? Anybody? It should be fun. So fun is a key thing, and that's something that we talk about in terms of state. So what manages your state? You know, if I go into, if I'm having a bad day, yet everything that I've done, everything possible in order to make my day good, in order to empower it in some way, how bad can my bad day be? Yet if I'm left vulnerable to things and not doing the right things about myself, taking care of my own inner game, whatever you call it, or myself, I guess, mentally, spiritually, financially, all those things, my bad day can be terrible. It can turn me into, it can totally allow me to collapse upon myself. But so what manages your state? What are some things that people do outside of game? So thinking positive. Yeah, I agree with that. But what actions can you do to make that happen? You said, work out? Work out, read, but what kind of stuff? Travel, exactly. But I see we have a real empowered group here today. Well, one of the things that I work with, I work with a guy named Priest, and he's a military dude, and I actually work with Fidelio out there, and he's a military dude. One of the things that is always talked about with those guys is that they wake up every morning and they do something consistent, whether it be exercise, whether it be some sort of meditation with some new age flair to it, but whatever, it's like you start off your day doing the right thing. Just like when you start learning this stuff, when you start learning routines, or when you start learning natural game, whatever you wanna call it, it's you start out by taking an action, and your actions lead to things. In fact, one of the most important, one of the most interesting things that I heard was that you, confidence is not something which is a belief in yourself, it's an action that's taken, and so confidence in order to get that going, it takes compliance and all those other sorts of things. So let me ask this, of people out there, what is something that, who's somebody that feels that they have kind of like a bad identity, a poor identity work-wise? I know there's gotta be a ton of you guys, but you don't wanna raise your hand. Well, in terms of identity, how you present yourself, how you, you know, I guess, come across to the ladies, so to speak. What do you try and present? Or anybody really? Anybody else? Anybody else? I'm not gonna pick on you because you have a good one, and you have a good one. What do you got? You could be pretty shy. What do you do for work? Sales, that's good. Right, right. And then what's, like family-wise, your parents still together? So they're separate. Are you from here? Okay, all right, so you're part of the Atlanta crew. In any case, so you're in sales, that's actually a good thing. But when I took my boot camp, they basically said, you know, you work as a photographer, that's awesome. Talk about that, talk about the people you've shot, talk about, you know, the experiences that you've had in film, talk about your, your U-plane music should come up like immediately. And the thing was, is I already kind of did those things, and I knew it didn't help, even though I still did what they told me to do. And I brought it up right away. But what that did was that got me a different, different style of, it got me a different style of gaming. And it was very attraction-based, and attraction-game fucking works, and it is a lot of fun. Yet at the same time, it never felt like myself. And I know there's tons of people out there that have gone out and you've learned routines and you've learned, you know, different DHV stories. And that's the big like, you know, hindrance towards routines. It's like, man, I'm not being myself. But you can very easily take the idea and theory of routines, which would be like, you know, push, pull, bait hook, reel release, you can use qualification, framing and all that stuff. And when you learn and understand that, you know, those routines are kind of like training wheels to get you going, to be able to talk about yourself in ways that are very, you know, game-friendly, so to speak. So with yourself being in sales, that's actually a very easy one. But does anybody have one that's like, computer programmer or, what else? What else? What's something like really that you would think would not be good to bring up? Unemployed. Unemployed, who said that? Unemployed is great. Unemployed is my favorite, actually. But no, so think about this. You know, when you bring that up, now unemployed, what kind of work did you do before? Counting and serving, serving, waiting tables, serving. Okay, dude, you don't have to hide the nod, it's all good. But, and then where do you want to go with it? Where do you see yourself? In five years, two years? Traveling. And why, what? Right, right. So what's happening here is he, I forget, what's your power ranger name? Because I don't want to call out your real name. Labido, all right. So Labido wants more of a sex drive here. But no, anyway. So the thing is, one of the things that I like to do is that it's that what we want to convey is we want to convey to people and all those attraction switches or however you want to base or weigh your game is the attraction switches are very, very tangible things. They're not something which is concrete. And one of the things that's always in there is identity. And if you're unemployed, it's like, shit, make something up, what's your hobby? Oh, you like to play guitar? Well, you're a musician now. Dress like a musician. And those are some of the things that I heard during my boot camp of what to do. And I always thought that was weird because I've always been somebody who's been able to talk about something and kind of make it look good. And which can be good and bad. But, well, hold on one second. But in terms of somebody who's unemployed, that's real easy. That's easy to present. You know, let's say you open up a set and you say, hey, you guys look nice. You seem friendly, cool, awesome. All right, so which one of you in the group is the little sister? Because me, I was like a middle child and I always loved like, railing on, whatever. You work some sort of like, neg, or some sort of way to gain value over them with whatever attraction routines. And then you bring up, no, no, no. It's really crazy. Do you have brothers and sisters? Yes? You have one? You have three brothers. What's your place in it? No, are you middle? You're oldest. So you go, with me, I was always the oldest brother, right? And it's fucking funny because like, dude, there's this aspect of being the oldest sibling where you're really responsible, but at the same time, you're like, I don't know, you just get off on like messing with people. So like, dude, you're totally, you're totally like the, I don't know, you'd be the little sister or maybe the middle one because you have a little bit of maturity, but whatever. But come here for a second. Like, check it out. With myself, I always had this pressure, right? You know, with my family. I don't know why I'm telling you this, but I figure you'd understand it. But I've always had this pressure where it's like, dude, you gotta perform, you gotta do this and that and you gotta be responsible. And I've always been that person. And actually, you know, I can see that a little bit in you, but you don't always, it's only when you're really settled down. But like, it's weird because right now I'm in this transition time where I'm just saying, fuck it. You know, I'm gonna let anything come my way. And I'm gonna do whatever it takes. Dude, you should be writing this down because this is goddamn gold. But, or buy the tape. Pre-order, $100. But you say like, you say, no, I'm just this person that's the same, fuck it. Yeah, I'm doing my own thing. And I don't know, what do you do for work? And then you check in with them and they say, like, oh yeah, I fucking, I suck dick at the bathhouse, but I put facial hair on so it's like a man sucking other men off. You go, dude, it's like the same fucking thing, man. Dude, totally. Like with me, I get all caught up in all these passions and that actually, like, it's hard for me to hold down. You know, and when you're on your knees and shit, dude, I don't even know what the fuck's going on. But I know it's going through your head because I had to work it about, no, just. But no, you go into, no, no, no. With myself, like, dude, I was waiting tables. I was working all these jobs, but I wasn't being myself and I had to walk away from it. And dude, I can see that with you. Like, you have those same things. But I bet, like, dude, who's one of your best friends? And they say, Melissa. Or they say Mitch, or whoever. And then you tell them, you go, dude, I bet you, like, you have all those sides to you, but it doesn't really come out unless you're really comfortable with people. Like, I bet Mitch totally sees this fucking crazy wild side to you. Like, what's the craziest thing you've ever done? And so you work by using those tools, and I'll explain them here in a second, with parts of your life. And that's generally kind of the beginnings to a stack, but what's happening there is one, you're using DHVs very lightly. DHVs are based on, you know, whatever, traction switches or all these things which makes women's pussies slide off the seat and, you know, slip and fall and have an eye pop out, which is another funny story that I have. But believe it or not. But anyway, so your DHVs are based off of traction switches. Well, you only need, like, one. You don't need to say me and 10 of my friends went and kicked this motherfucker's ass who was talking shit to my ex-girlfriend who, you know, was in the fourth gang bang girl. And, you know, fuck, I have a souvenir from it. I have two condoms and one I've kept in a pickle jar to preserve the sperm. But you don't need to say that. You can just say a little bit. But all you need to do is talk about yourself, man. You talk about yourself, I'm the oldest child. I'm responsible. Responsible can help lead into a frame, which is saying, look, I can keep a secret because I'm a responsible person, but at the same time I like to go crazy with things to help frame them. But you're using that, you're leading all into that by using your grounding sequence. Any sort of grounding sequence is basically the story of her life in some sort of short package. But everybody here has, like, a fucking 20-plus year, some of us 30-plus year grounding story. But with yourself, you know, that's easy. It comes across very fluid. Look, man, I'm at a point where I just said, fuck it. I'm gonna do my own thing. And that's what I have to do to be myself. You know, and you probably have those same passions too that make you fucking set off and just drop it. When was, and you can even qualify after that. When was the last time you actually just let everything go? You know, and look at the valley down below me. Just joking, don't say that. But in any case, but that's a very interesting way to do it. Now what's happening there is I'm using myself and my description of myself to begin my frames. I'm saying, one, I'm passionate. One, I can drop things and act on my passions. So you're beginning those definitions of yourself and then you're putting it on them. And now you can put it on them with whatever cold reads you can say, like, you can state break and say, what's your, you know, what's like one of your friends, one of your best friends? You know, just to snap them out of it. Or you can cold read and say, I bet you have two or three really good friends that kind of get to see that, you know, that sort of wild side to you. And you bring it out. And so then it puts it on them as a frame. Does that make sense to you? And then afterwards you qualify out of it, which qualification has all sorts of uses and tools and fun sorts of theoretical talk. But generally how I use it is that it determines where I'm gonna go next, will gaining value. So it leads myself into whatever next routine there is. What's something that somebody has that's like, that they don't like to bring up, like about their family? Don't we? What's up? Arguing. Arguing, so you argue with your family. With, tight with your mom and dad? Yeah. Yeah, so you're close to them? So what's the argument about? Well, they're arguing between each other. So they're arguing between each other. Where are they from? Yeah. Okay, so they're from Israel? So there's all sorts of, do they argue about you? So they argue about themselves, but they stay together, right? And you have your hand up. Valentino, right? I'm on that road. But, okay, so what he would say is that he walks on eggshells around his father because his dad gets kind of angry about a bunch of stuff. And he has whatever complex that he has of being stuck back in his 20s. And now he's no longer that way. But I'm looking for something that's more like, okay, dude, my mom was fucking crazy. My mom used to sit there and have me watch Mommy Dearest and say, I'm not that bad, and it was, and it was. And so, in any case, I had a lot of stuff. I also, when I was 17, I had a drug overdose and I died. I can bring all that shit up and set. When I was, God, man, I've done so many fucked up things on tour while being wasted off my ass and not wasted some of the times in Florida, even. And stuff that I wouldn't be proud of. But I can always turn that into something which makes it work. And so that's what I'm saying is like, look, I hear all this stuff about people saying, you know, natural game stuff, which is great. You should be yourself. But you should learn that what's propelling that is your life, how you view yourself, what your motives are going into it, what your expectations are going into it, what your perceptions of the community are and mine have changed throughout. And what I perceive happening in the community right now is people looking for something more. Looking for something more than just lines to pick up people, but I'll tell you kind of how to do both. And that, like, look, I could bring up all sorts of stuff of my touring days and I can say like, look, man, you know what? I can be in set with somebody for two minutes and say this. And as long as I can maintain frame and what I mean by maintaining frame is my interaction with them rather than the other type of frame, which is defining my communication with them, I can say like, look, dude, you know, I can be like the fucking best person or I can be the worst person in the world. And dude, there was this time, shit, man, like five years ago, I was on tour and basically the name of the game is when you're playing music because you get drunk off of your ass and you go to the next town and you fucking raise hell, right? You do whatever it takes, man. There was this time when I was actually in a strip club and this is totally a true story that I was wasted off of my ass and it was like right when they were closing and the water on the ground was like fucking an inch or maybe three quarters of an inch filled with piss and whatever else comes out of men's bodies when they're at a strip club. And dude, I was there and I had to go to the bathroom really bad and I'm all wasted and I slipped and fell and then I came out of there and I had all this shit all over me and dude, everybody's had those experiences like that but there was this time when I stopped doing all that and it was about like when I was 28 and one of the things that happened was I lost all my friends, I lost like and you're stuck in that place and I know you can, I know you guys can relate with this is that where you're just going in circles and your life isn't going like anywhere and you've lost that sort of like pattern that you've been involved in and you know what happened was is I thought back to this time when I was seven years old and I remember I have four grandparents and I had one that really, really loved me because I was always the crazy kid and I remember she had had a stroke right after my birthday and my whole family was staying there in the hospital room and they were all crying and we went to go say goodbye and I didn't know what to do was the time for the grandkids to go do that right and I went and stuck my head down on her lap and I said, you know, grandma the first time I came home from school and I was crying and upset you told me that just put my head on your lap and everything will be okay and so I'm doing that now for the last time and I remember everybody in the fucking room started crying and going like oh Jesus Christ and I took off running because I was afraid and I thought I did something wrong and my aunt came out after me and told me it was all right and all that stuff but that's one of the reasons why I cannot judge and that's why when I meet somebody like I see them as like a, I see them for the best and fuck man, I'm in kind of a routine mode this is a true story but this is what I say, you know of to frame myself as being somebody who does not judge and that they can act out on whatever actions they wanna have with me that they can experience things with me and these are all true stories from my life and they're things which people don't normally I guess talk about but anyway, what's something else that somebody has? Nothing, Jesus Christ, you again family members that are on drugs is it like a sibling? Older or younger? Right and so again you can say like look man I'm somebody that's a fucking older brother and dude I love younger brother? Okay, you know I love my younger brother and I always will and it'll always be somebody who, I'm never gonna not love them like dude and you can even check in and say what I mean by checking in is you can kinda hone into them and get something back from them it's like, do I mean are your parents still together? Yes, no, maybe so they say, let's say they say no because that's more common you go like dude but you're always gonna love both parents no matter how much they hate each other and that's like the same fucking thing with me and my brother but it's taught me so much about being human and it's taught me so much about being somebody that where compassion overrides things and fuck dude there's been times when he's like stole shit from me or whatever it is, you know he's broken shit, he's been angry he's fucking tipped my mom, whatever it is you know the story's better than me I'm just making stuff up but you know he's gotten into my porn collection and he sold it for crack and then him and his friends shot a porn with it and then it's like my sperm is featured on this fucking goddamn porn so that's up on the internet but anyway so yeah, you can cut that part out but you can then go like you can then shape it into something where it's like no, that's what taught me like how to see people for who they are and that's one of the reasons why look, I don't judge and you know what, I'm a responsible person and I can do all sorts of crazy stuff but I'm always somebody that is responsible you know and can keep a secret and then you wanna lead it back to something which is more towards your dynamic you can go to like, if we do anything tonight we're gonna have to pinky swear on it but you can trust me and so you bring it back towards some sort of gaming mentality but those things are beautiful things to talk about I in fact, of the people that I've worked with I love it more when there's people that I can relate with on some level that when I have a student that brings that side out of me when I have a student that is somebody that has something interesting about our lives because dude everybody fucking does here and the thing that I'm so disappointed by when I meet people is that they have to tell me these other stories of that they fucked all these chicks or that they won some power lift competition and I don't know, won some sort of alpha male thing because that really has nothing to do with what we're trying to do what we're trying to do is we're trying to connect with people and we're trying to build connections in the right way now you make the decision what that is because as our friend Shaft talks about so eloquently is you're just doing them a favor, all these nutties but he just voices anybody who's seen it knows what I'm talking about anybody who doesn't is probably like what the fuck is he saying? But anyway, you can take game wherever you want it but make sure that it's someplace where it's gonna work out well for you make sure it's someplace where it is coming from yourself and how we do that is we cultivate ourselves there's all sorts of different ways we do it but one of the things that I like to think about is what's motivating me am I gonna go out tonight to go get attention am I gonna go out tonight to go impress my friends am I gonna go out tonight to go get some edge over women because all of us fucking love that or am I gonna go out tonight and have fun am I gonna go out tonight and especially with somebody like me who's teaching this stuff I always like to be curious about it what's gonna work, what's gonna not what is motivating me, where is that coming from because then that shapes my expectations what am I gonna get out of it and there's a saying which a few of you may or may not get in here but your inner game, your inner peace whatever you wanna call it is directly proportional to what your expectations are out of an event and to bring an example of that what's something where let's take the under 21 conference you guys are coming here and it's like man I paid 100 bucks for this and then these people are flailing around on stage that would upset you but if you just come in with the experience to allow it to happen man there's all sorts of experiences you guys can have around each other but if you expect too much out of out of game or out of your results or what you're gonna get from it or if you expect too much from what you expect from impressing other people or what other people are gonna think of you that never works out in a good way and then your perspectives on things what is something which would be a healthy perspective to go out and work game from or work something where you guys are going out and trying to talk to people make connections not everybody at once having fun but even beyond that what about relationships making people laugh but what about building bonds with people how many people in here got involved in this to rack up a bunch of lays and that was it I know and me too but then how many people here got involved in this to actually meet a girlfriend or have options let's change that to have options to meet a girlfriend the girl they wanted I know but rack up a bunch of lays is number one that was number one for me how many people came in here just to gain some sort of like just to gain confidence over this aspect of their life right, right, right so the thing is is we gotta look at that I mean the thing is everybody comes into this everybody how all of our advertising is written is like you can get laid right now and you can dude getting laid is fucking easy getting good with women is something which is very easy but building a lifestyle which maintains that is the tough part and that's where it's a long process everybody in this room too has pretty much been doing this for over six months dude we're probably, I'm probably gonna see your faces again when I and everybody who knows me knows I go out and talk to layers I put myself out there and I communicate everybody knows that that is going to you know I'm gonna see you guys again I'm going to see your faces and the thing is if you haven't been that guy that's going out and getting the women that you want dude that will happen over time if you stick with like one consistent system and don't congeal all around to fucking everywhere but but anyway that part is the easy part but to formulate like a road where this is is something that you guys can look at somebody and say like dude I want what that guy's got and I can get it I want to be that person I want to walk around with that sort of confidence I want to be that person where I don't worry about things anymore if I go home alone any night it's because I choose to you know all that stuff takes a lot longer to go through what's uh... what is something identity wise let's see from from somebody on this side of the room nothing really I hear crickets anybody from anybody over here mm-hmm what's your career computer programmer do there's so many people in the community that are computer programmers but the thing is is is how how we package that do you ever bring it up or do you say you're Dana White hey dude dude right but you know what okay so here's here's what we got to understand is everybody everybody's identity is based on how you present it's how you present it now this instant social proof that you gain with certain types of identity like if you're a you know a fucking uh... porn star and you're in guam well maybe it doesn't mean shit but if you're some if you're somewhere else where it has no value it has no value has no definition that it has nothing if you're a computer programmer in in most areas where like if you're a computer program computer programmer in vegas where dana white lives you it's like meaningless but at the same time it's how you present it's how you present it that's the important thing and with programming or with anything which is technical everybody always veers away from how many people in here are like computer people that was actually funny because people rose their hands with pride that time but uh... but anyway so so one of the things you can say with that is like to do you know what it when i was when i was growing up he says very very early on and set again the same thing is that when i when i was growing up uh... you know is one of the most uh... is i was always like a curious kid i was always a kid that was always like fiddling with stuff and you know my dad would get these colored blocks and i put them together in all these sorts of things but i would get so excited about it and then at the same time when i grew up it you know how i kind of shaped was always maintain that type of curiosity i was maintained that type of like you know that drives i have to do those things so what just hold on hold on your horses for a second but you're defining yourself you're not qualifying yourself i qualify yourself would be asking for permission you know asking for them to judge you and you're not you're defining yourself telling who you are because i can even say like well look dude i'm uh... you know some sort of actor who's been in all these plays that's not qualifying yourself so with computer programming you're just saying look now is always this kid that was you know really curious and really you know ambitious and adventurous and you know sometimes i'd step over the line and uh... you know one of the things is is that i always like meet people and it you know i can know like fucking right away that uh... that you have those same same sides to you too and like you know it i bet uh... here give me your hands for a second and you can do some sort of cold routine where you go like a right i want you to look at me in the look at me in the eye and think about some which is like totally fucking uh... think about something totally embarrassing and then they do it and they laugh because they always fucking laugh or do they they all because they always laugh with it you go like i'll do whatever did it had nothing to do with that it actually had nothing to do with that but it was it was i just want to see how you react to it because there's people that go two different ways you know in a situation where they're gonna go like they're gonna get angry about it or they're gonna they're gonna find humor in it you found humor in it and that was fucking awesome yeah yeah yeah i can get all into the weird theoretical stuff but what's that what that is doing is that's causing them to react and it's causing them to jump through certain hoops now in the meantime you had some lead in story about how you felt and how you uh... you know look at certain things and perceive things and be passionate about it but then uh... you you then turned it into a routine where you gain certain sort of rapport with them by cold reading basically and the cold read would be like dude but you reacted and you had like a good sense of humor but there's this other side to you too that's like uh... i don't even want to bring up like you'll you'll fucking get pissed off and then you're baiting them and then they're like like no no no no no tell me like i don't know when i asked you that you you kind of show this other side to you that i don't want to know about like if all the lights went off right now do that have to fucking run because it would be like you'd have me in some crazy fucking position that i don't know whatever we're gonna drop it right now but then you go right back then you go right back i'd say you go right back to defining yourself there's like no no no but it's awesome when i meet people that are all about like connecting with folks so you're telling me that can computer programming isn't now a sexy stereotype dude make that happen that's your job and your job and your job where in san francisco usually that doesn't happen but that's good that you found it but you don't tell you this i'll tell you this if i start talking about photography with people they give a shit for a second if i talk about people who i photographed you know they give a shit for a second you know but if i want to embellish it a little bit and use that because here's here's like the proper way you know the the textbook way of me dhv myself i'd say like dude you know it's fucking awesome because i was uh... you know my brother wrote this book and like i was with all these ufc people and i was photographing them i made friends and like dude let me tell you something when i was a randy couture there's actually a picture of me in the book with me and him and we're you know hugging and in this other guy jason mayhem miller's there to my other side it's just like the shit dude but those are the people i rolled that that means like so little that gets me so that only gets me so far where does that get me now actually those things are those things are true but those things are not true about myself you know maybe how i could frame that would be like dude but randy's this guy who is i don't know if you've ever met him but he gives you like his full attention he's like a total family man but at the same time he's like this ogreish brute dude and it's like he has the two sides to people you know that are so awesome like there's this like sweet side and then there's this other side which is just like fuck dude i wouldn't want to walk into that kind of an alley but uh... but like everybody has those sides and then i'd put it on them and i'd say like dude but i you know with you you're like somebody that is uh... you have like i bet you're you're a girl that like you can really like piss dudes off or really piss guys off you can totally get under their skin and like fuck with them and sometimes i think you uh... you you enjoy that but other times like i don't know you also have this need for like you know some sort of fulfillment or you have this need to to be uh... i don't know just be made to feel like a woman and you go along with those things right right right but that's multi-threading so who to tells a story that's consistently you know that that tells it streamlined you know like no stories are like yeah man i flew into orlando and the flight was amazing and that it was a dot a dot a dot a dot a dot and then i went to the hotel room and the cab driver told me to go to this hotel instead we got into the hotel room and it's not like cigarette smoke even though it was not it's you just don't you just don't talk in that sort of way so what we're trying to do is that but what's something uh... what's something else that that's a unique identity to people you're in the military right in the military this is always something with which would happen when you when i'd work with folks in the military would be that they'd never like to bring it up is this true or no everybody it actually works really well you know when people bring that up but there's two things to that from what i get because i've never been in the military but uh... the two things that i get from that is one there's a sense of pride to it and identity that i don't want to use it towards like any sort of advantage and then there's another side to it where it's like i guess it's kind of like the same thing that it's a private deal but at the same time there's ways of packaging that you can even bring that up you know what i never bring this up and i only bring it up to people that i really really like and me but there's this whole side to me where i i love to uh... ever since i was a little kid or whatever it is you know the story better than i i wanted to be uh... fuck man i want to be a part of something which just made changes in things you know and it's so weird how that manifested and dude i've been in the air force for x amount of years or x amount of time and it's really like it's changed my perspective on things but that's how you do it your identity is what you say it is and how you bring it to somebody's you know understanding so to speak what was what was your question you mother fucker well what it what is your like how do you bring it up so you just drop it in leave it this is and this is another thing which is good like this is something where you are bringing stuff up and and you're just kind of dropping in and it's like oh man on the shoot the other day was blah blah blah blah blah blah you know but i'm not talking about being a photographer i'm not talking about any sort of specifics but at the same time why not use like tactics that we know game wise in order to to help those work like baiting you know and working push-pull if i were doing another seminar right now i'd like all lay all the shit out but what we uh... you know what the general things that we use we use push-pull these bait bait hook real release whatever you want to call it these qualifications framing use compliance dominance logistics all these things to to uh... you know help propel of conversation or a you know target in the right direction what you can do with that is work for a little baiting there to make it work throw a little push in there to make it work and throw a little compliance attach an action to it so what you could say is like no man when i was out in california it was fucking weird it was so weird we were uh... we were on base and uh... you know fuck man uh... this eagle came down and somebody shot it or whatever the fucking is he did it's totally crazy like that i don't i don't know if you'll get it i don't know if you get it because the definition of that story the frame of that story and and how i teach is the most important part and so you can say like in all make something up but i'm sure you can translate this into something but you know i i don't know if i can tell you this is fucking not like this we were out in the middle of the desert they were testing all the stuff and and my job with it was like you know to sit back and observe and take notes or to press a button and uh... it was the weirdest fucking moment like uh... there's there's just this moment where everything tripped out on me for a second and it was only me out of like the the rest of the group or your unit whatever you call it and uh... fuck dude it just made me think at that moment like how important you know what your purpose is and what your life is and i always felt good about it and it's weird because my parents you know they're they're actually from another country and what i noticed is every single person in my unit who i met in the military anybody who had a foreign parent they had like a different idea and responsibility to their family than anything else dude fuck man are your parents still together yes no maybe so like my parents they're still together and they fight like motherfuckers all the time it's like crazy and growing up i didn't know what to think about it and even when i'm at home it's it's like dude i don't even know what to i don't even know what to do you know some i still do the same things that i do when i was a kid and just go into the room man it it's like uh... it just made me see the differences of how you perceive things and what i always know is that my family is going to stay together and i'm gonna stay together with with wherever i am i'm always gonna have a foundation under me and then you want to find all right you want to get get all those stories are there to induce or to to start framing to say what kind of a person you are and then after that you want to uh... you want to then somehow put it on them or give it give it a vehicle give it a road for them to drive drive across right and so you would say no man like but with you you've probably done like all sorts of crazy stuff like what what was what was something you fucking hated about like the last guy you were with what was something that what was something that really pissed you off and then they then they say then they say whatever right they say like oh he was just weird or he was great but i was fucked up or whatever they say that you then you go like you know it's the most guys are pussies like most dudes and you can leverage yourself out of the way in this and say like the most dudes who uh... you know grow up like the normal american lifestyle they don't even know how to like treat a woman they don't know how to be a man they know how they don't even know how to be like let me tell you something when someone's last time some guy came up to you just went and did this pull behind their hair and then you do a take away whatever but it's implementing those same ideas the same ideas of bait to get through your story to have some sort of an emotional meaning or identity and then uh... then you then you basically say what it means with your framing but uh... i don't know uh... uh-huh wanna work more is israeli stuff in there then my friend was lebanese and i was like you got stories you got stories but uh... but in any case so that's that's generally what i do and that's what i do with the stacks and that's like the very beginning or attraction areas of the stacks of how i work them and um... what it does is it brings together all sorts of things it brings together your your attraction game more of more of a cycling constant throughout your set and more things like frames propelling it and using comfort and emotions to propel those sorts of frames jack well every sets different every set what we're trying to do obviously is engineer how people interact but every sets different there's always going to be some amount of uh... of you know attraction material but it's an attitude it's an attitude which goes out there and so you always need that at the same time you should always be we still have one more question right yes but you still uh... and we have to actually wrap up in like a few minutes so i'll try and answer quick but your that comes with calibration but due to traction literally lasts dude it's done within two minutes if you're still working attraction game and five minutes is passed you probably you know exercise that muscle enough and it's not gonna fucking work and you can keep trying and make it work and i guarantee there's dudes that can make that should happen it's uh... it's something which is uh... you you're always trying to get into someplace where you can hit rapport where rapport is defined as is like you're equal levels with somebody right you're at the same level is no longer some value scale bouncing it now that's always going to change that you're set you need to use attraction to leverage it in so that's what you'd how do we implement attraction to do with takeaways with you know things like nags we do with being dismissive we do it with having fun so those that's always a factor in it in between that you're always trying to pepper forward with some sort of you know material that can ground you and frame you what's your second question if you're uh... you have an external interrupt and you're in the middle of the story do you come back on the story or do you that's why you carry a knife for a gun and what you do and if they're fat you can stab them in their fat and fuck the whole but but it feels good feels good uh... no external interrupt that's why you gotta isolate as much as possible build compliance in your isolation also build compliance and how you're running that set you state break you start and stop those types of things and that will help you later it won't guarantee that the interrupt will be diffused but it's a technical thing that you can do to allow the the set to continue on that they're gonna listen to your frame more if you can begin their happiness stop it being happiness again and then uh... you know move into something sexual stop that state and started again those things will help so that's why you want to build compliance the immediately as soon as you do be right so anyway um... how i want this the second half to work after after the awesome tapes which is the last half an hour i want to bring entropy in doc holiday on stage we want to do some workshop in things one of the reasons for that is because we are doing three workshops here or two of them i'm doing with them tomorrow there's going to be a uh... a day game uh... workshop that's going to be about an hour hour and a half uh... seminar time going over some drills and then three hours in the field that starts at noon and it's a five hundred dollar deal and uh... doc is mainly teaching that and entropy and myself are helping out so there'll be plenty of uh... plenty of people to uh... to be out there in the field good good instructor ratio uh... so that's five hundred bucks after that i'm doing a stack seminar where where basically we're going over a lot of stuff i talk about but i go over all the theory and write it all down and and you learn kind of the structure to what i'm doing which is uh... a little bit different than just me giving examples but i come up with examples for you but the stacks that i write are usually like thirty plus pages long like ninety minutes of material uh... what you walk out of there at a stack seminar is something more that's like about you know twenty five thirty minutes of material uh... you can ask some some guys around here taking it's they know about it their peppered throughout the area but uh... jay time and homerun king has done it and uh... whatever his name negatron back there's done it but there's a bunch of people who have been in orlando who've worked worked with me in that that capacity and will let them speak speak even though i say it's awesome but uh... that is seven hundred fifty bucks but that's tomorrow five it'll probably go to like nine thirty uh... also on monday we're doing something on social circle that uh... entropy is doing and we're gonna talk a little bit more about that stuff when they come up here in about thirty minutes so uh... we're doing stuff on social circle and also working on like some attraction stacks which is more attraction based uh... that is uh... four hundred dollar deal but what it what it'll be is have a lot to do with college campus so anybody who attends a college anybody who hangs out in a white van in front of a college i recommend that you take it uh... anybody what's that i didn't say your name and but uh... i didn't i didn't mention that there were no locks on the door and all that stuff in the windows but uh... but but anyway it shows you those techniques that give you that edge to uh... to work on a social circle through college and uh... also work on like some attraction material that will that will work a little bit better for that kind of quick-paced game whereas those are more like high-stimulus environments that would be nightclubs or areas that are very active and loud and quick and need efficiency in them uh... those those are things that are coming up if you want to be involved in any of those uh... basically our perspective is we want to work with anybody who wants uh... be a part of it talk to fidelio back there he's the guy who handed out those sheets of paper also by the end of the uh... my speech are probably when we break with uh... to bring entropy and dock on if we could uh... tear off those back pages that have your contact info on them that's how you will get any sort of phone consults and uh... emails from me and i promise not to blast your email with uh... bestiality or gay porn even though sometimes that can be fun i see heads nod what's that then let me know and i can turn you on to some really good shit yes yes then we'll then we'll do our phone console while watching it and i can kind of talk you through with the the horses dude fuck man you know they always told me you can't melt a bowl but i saw kingpin i know better things like a fucking fire hose of jesus christ if you can get me on a blue whale fuck dude because you climb in that urethra it's like a sleeping bag anyway but anyway so so another things that i wanted to talk to you guys about that that's relevant towards the uh... that's relevant towards game in general we always we always hear uh... we always hear a lot about uh... you know how you need to be in the moment you need to be in the moment when you're when you're working your sets when you're talking to people and whatever and whatever social presentation you're putting across but one of the things that was always interesting to me was that your uh... you know your your your clarity was so so dependent on your level of distraction and one of the things that i've always noticed is game was kind of set up and now it's not necessarily like this anymore but how i learned and it definitely works i'm not knocking it was to be very high stimulus walking to a nightclub a nightclub is indemnically high stimulus it is something where you have to have energy and attention and we do all these things we peacock and we where all sorts of fancy led fucking things that talk about blue whales penises or whatever it is that gets you attention but that's how i do it what that is is we're working on a level of distraction you know we're working on a level of distraction and not one of clarity and that's actually one of the things why how many guys here want to uh... get no more about day game just in general that it's a it's a lot easier field to work in because you have all that pressure off in the thing is that changes your game a little bit now how game evolved and hurtled through with a lot of the guys who you spoke here speak uh... this weekend it evolved through night game it evolved through the clubs it evolved through areas where you had to show yourself in the most of bright diamond-studded backbone penis sort of whatever your necklaces sort of way they should check out his necklace and guess what it is because it it gives an odd illusion at first but uh... anyway when it comes does that mean it's like cold that comes out you got to check it out and in any case but uh... we we all learned how to do things in those sorts of ways and one of the interesting things about learning day game or learning social circle game or learning whatever it is style you want to do we need to lessen that and also with all the stuff that people talk about now about being in the moment and having yourself there and being in the present and gaming from that rather than gaming from you know i guess the past of the future but gaming from all sorts of other hang-ups that we have about ourselves or about of all sorts of of unhealthy beliefs empowering that is that the less distractions you have with your with your life or with what you have going around you the easier it is to go forward in game and how many guys have been out there and you know like twenty god damn openers and you've rehearsed them in front of the mere naked after you told yourself you loved yourself a hundred times to why are you guys laughing i'll continue on i feel kind of hurt but uh... but anyway in in you've you've done all that and you don't know what the fuck to say you know or how many of you guys have been there and you've you have all your openers memorized and you have this like fucking badass crazy transition that's about bull testicles and how it goes into red bull and and all this crazy shit and but then it makes you tired and that's why you drink five-hour energy now and and you fucking don't have anything to say after that but i know you guys have like been there with it where there's tons and tons of material that you have yet at the same time you get across nothing and then you get across nothing about yourself and then you get across you don't attract things to yourself that are of any sort of value to you when game was all about but in any case you uh... you lose momentum in those sorts of ways so one of the things that i always like to do is i always like to keep things simple like what i tell guys to do in order to get good at this in order to progress on at this and to break grass on in some sort of a lifestyle sort of way is to do a few things keep a journal keep keeping journals good now when when i was told to keep a journal i just kept it and i forget the reasons why they told me yes yeah we're back with the microphone goodness uh... it just seems like with everything you're saying it's just like you try to build on get a personal level with the girl and you know just get it you know we're interested in getting a comfortable but like would you recommend this sort of thing for like a club scene because basically have to be in our ear to say these kind of things and it might come off as creepy have to like be really close and then she'd be like what what what i'm died my mom sorry that that is uh... that's what i'd say would be a limiting belief because i do the shit in clubs all the time and in fact like this people who i've worked with who i think do it in clubs you can talk to them about it but it's it's fairly easy to isolate now for club is like obviously loud and there's no place where they can hear you yeah but you want to you want to game in a club where you can get into a strategic area where that can happen and kind of how you know maybe somebody has some model of like this pheromonal mix or something or or pua cologne or whatever it is that will make you go into a club and girls vaginas will magnetically come to you but until that happens there's usually a comfort stage which takes place or a stage where rapport happens and so you you want to generally logistically pick clubs where you have an area where that can happen where you can sit down or isolate off in some corner but for the most part these things they're fairly easy to do uh... one of the things that i will say we're talking about like a lot of stuff you talk about the game but you're communicating with your body language compute communicated with your eye contact your the tonality your how you interact with your body rocking or movie number whatever you want to call it you're touching and then of course what you say now in a higher stimulus environment what you say is less important in your body language is thus more important all those other things are more important so those things do override but in order to really get somewhere where you so i can get to be able to stick your dick into something that's not a glove or a piece of barbed wire or steel wall that i like it rough but and i like to be clean something that's nothing to joke about man so uh... i uh... i would say if you're going to do that you do want to have that an area where you can logistically facilitate you know those that sort of talking and it's a lot easier than people think because people always bring that up but in case i forget where the fuck i was at okay so keeping a journal and things like that are uh... are very important when you when you have a journal you can do two things and that's what everybody always says as kind of different for me but this does work is that when you keep a journal after every time you go out you actually can go back and look back on it and see your growth that's not the number one reason why they most people say to do it but what was helpful for me was that i could actually look at it while i'm writing it and i'd write about different stuff like as i do my friends and be like all that bitch blew me out you know she fucking is fat and stupid whatever and you know i said this and maybe that's why it didn't work in your friends like yeah yeah yeah and or maybe you should have negated more but you're gonna write down stuff which is much more important i think towards gaming and that's one of the processes of internalizing it too because when you have stuff actively how your brain works is you have habits that you've built out throughout your life and you it's impossible to just go in there and break them you know and be super alpha dude that's loud and leaning back and fucking you know some sort of pussy magnet with uh... you know i don't have that pill developed yet but it's in development but in any case you you you want to do things which which begin that sort of thought process to cultivate and happen and so keeping a journal i've always felt was a good thing for that because i would be able to uh... slowly learn you know how i worked and why was doing things in those things that i wasn't debriefing with my friends about those things that i was writing down and saying like oh man you know at this point i think i lost it but maybe i didn't and it's just a slow process which helps you evolve that sort of thought other second thing i would do is that you would go out and practice as much as possible unless you're insane like myself and a few other people in the room you're going to go out three to four times a week in practice in a club that's hard now not everybody can do that you know some people have school some people want to do stuff in the daytime but the thing is that you actively practice this stuff four times a week whether it's once that day or ten times that day that's the important thing that you're keeping it in your brain and that's the thing is you're building a routine you're building an action just like i was saying i have friends in the military get up and run every morning i wish i did that change things stamina and endurance but but anyway the there's people that get up and do things every morning now i'm not saying you need to go out and you need to exercise that's always a good recommendation from people you should make habits coincide with the lifestyle this that makes it very easy and so if you're practicing these things even if you're going up and talking to somebody and you're saying like hey how are you awesome nobody asked that anymore you know the weirdest thing is like what's the first second you don't think somebody asked you when you meet and they'll say like well what do you do for work or what's your name or something like that you know dude it's so weird because when i was growing up like fuck it was so much different i was like the last thing anybody ever wanted to know and do whatever man i'm just i'm just shooting the shit and talking to you but you seem really cool blah blah blah you can you can begin but you're you're practicing these things you're keeping these muscles exercise that is something which is like vital towards it so that's the second thing you practice whether it's once a day twice a day twenty fucking times a day you are you're consistently keeping this in the forefront of your mind and then afterwards right in your journal about it uh... i would say the other thing which is very important very important that nobody's gonna fucking want to do every god damn piece of shit community theater actor does this when they have ten people who watch their whole planet's entirety they will record themselves their stand in front of the mirror they'll uh... you know be very critical of their presentation and when you're doing things like standing in front of the mirror when you're doing things like listening to your own voice practicing whatever it is maybe you want to learn specific routines maybe you want to just learn how to present yourself with different tonality uh... with different body language is to work in front of the mirror like three to four times a week for fifteen minutes a day we'll go ten you're gonna hate it at first but then afterwards you do that you know naked i love you thing in the mirror it's it's all it all becomes narcissistic and then i'm telling you in like three months down the road you won't even need sex so just look at yourself but no but but seriously but working in front of the mirror is a good thing to help you and turn on to one know how you look know how you come off know how you're presenting yourself to people and it's it's something which is like uh... you can calibrate off of that when you watch yourself more when you know what you're putting off you're gonna learn how to read yourself when you learn how to read yourself you can learn how to read other people and it's it's an awesome thing so anytime you you have like whatever you know routines or just conveyance is that you want to put off they're good thing to practice but i always say like three times a week four times a week ten fifteen minutes a day is always a good thing now the last thing would be is to uh... once a week many you guys took like shitloads of notes on sure well hopefully during this and uh... and you probably have like books some of you guys have done workshops maybe some of you guys will do our workshop coming up and and be able to kick the world in half as future would always love to say or it's actually kick the world in half but uh... but uh... but anyway some of you guys have done all those things you have a lot of information there's a lot of information about this in fact i heard of the speakers i heard we were all kind of saying similar things but in different ways pick whatever notes you like books that you like uh... if you've taken a workshop notes from that and study them just once a week you don't want to be that guy that is studying them fucking i don't know once a day you want to look at him once a week because again those things are things that you want to have orchestrated in the back of your mind to later manifest when you're going out you know when you're going out in the field and doing your thing and having fun and working from those good motivators working from those things which are inspiring you want you want to have those things driving you now the thing is it doesn't work over time but over about you know four weeks these things start to manifest in yourself now also in that once a week when you do your reviews that once a week you should make your goals make your goals for the week a lot of times how i break things down as i'd you know break them up into your tools of game and how to implement them we won't get too much into that but uh... if you want to ask me at any point i can talk to you about them make your goals to be very small and something that's doable pick three things i want my body language to be better i want my uh... i want my delivery to be good i want to uh... you know to move a set i want to move a set and i want to work up logistics for a day two i want to work a poll whatever the hell it is i meant an actual polling from the you're fucking disturbed dude what did your brother teach you what kind of a role model but anyway you come up with your goals and you want to work those out so at the end of the or at the end of the week the end of the week whenever you want to make it when you when you create that list you review your notes and you're going like shit man i saw sin talk about this i saw you know so-and-so talk about this i saw this and that man i want to work on that pick that that when you go out three to four times a week go and do it let's say it's a social pressure exercise you know you're gonna go up to the fucking chick at starbucks and so i got cockroaches in my pants want to see and then really have your dick out and then that'll show me let me let me just tell you and about two minutes dock is going to come up on stage with me and we're gonna skewer penises together because we all have a pierce but you know what a funny thing is is welcome when i was seventeen i like i said i did a lot of weird stuff so my friends and i were fucking like that that we were like something like do let's get prince albert's man and i'm like all right i'm going like i'm like yeah you guys like me that's when you it's a certain type of piercing that goes in your dick so i got it and it was the most fun to show like my parents and family and i'd be like i'd have like a newspaper in front of my i'd be sitting down at like a newspaper in front of me and i'd be like do you look at this fucking shit i was like payback to my mom you know whatever and in case it's a little trick for later but uh... but yeah uh... time-wise how we doing yeah dude let's come up so what we want to do is we wanted to let's let's bring up like doc and let's bring up uh... entropy what we wanted to do was we wanted to leave you guys with something to walk away with as if i didn't do enough slaving over you on this stage uh... but anyway i want to bring them up and start doing a little bit of demonstrations of one what we're going to be doing tomorrow and monday but also stuff that you guys can walk away with uh... doc i know is going to be talking about uh... some things in pertaining towards day game and uh... entropy is going to be talking about things pertaining towards i don't know swimming in the pool and college and generally talking so we need we need the wireless microphone for this and also it was doc's birthday last night oh today i have a mic i don't need that one oh yeah shit i'm wireless like johnny karson hello hey so this is entropy and this is doc uh... again like i said tomorrow we're doing those programs do you want to start off and go over some like day game stuff yeah sure if mark if you want to let go over there and uh... what i want to do is i guess give you the real like one minute intro of me i guess you just know like who the fuck is this kid with a mohawk uh... i came into the community about two and a half years ago when i was a little over eighteen uh... i was a virgin at the time and i'm in boston there's no eighteen plus scene for clubs there so i was doing a shit ton of day game going out like five days a week doing five to ten sets a day and i did that for six months and got no results and the reason was because i was doing exactly like what i read in the v a h for like typical like night game during the day and it was just weird and it didn't work so i'm like all right well something's wrong here so i took a program with sin lost my virginity that night and yeah there you go there's the plug for sin he will take your virginity uh... so from there i started going out even more so like for the next like another six months like seven days a week seven sets a day like that was my fucking thing man i started getting good but the problem was that i had no like inner game it was all out of game and i'm like all right well what now more training i guess so i did another program with sin in a future at the time and i talked to you know sin afterwards and he's like well blah blah blah you know talking about like actually finding myself and i took a break for about three months over a summer i didn't go out at all really i had like one new lay over like three months or something stupid and i just did like soul searching as like homosexual as that sounds and i came back and like my result skyrocketed and then whatever fast-forward a little bit hooked up with steve his lr's fucking changed everything and uh... his stacking stuff i start implementing it into my day game so we sort of have a parallel here so i want to do is have any volunteer come up and you can pretend that i'm a really hot girl with the tight ass and you can open me like you would during the day does anyone have the kahunas yeah all right make fun of them yeah well that's what we do afterwards steven i'll make fun of them you want me to step down here or we can all right just going to be mind my own business good how are you not too bad all right i like your hair thank you it's really good i thought you were like one of those brady girls maybe all right that's enough so what i want to do now is sort of give you a little model for day game and i guess you can sit down i may pull you back up yeah i may pull you back up all right so that's what happens like you go out you're like well fuck i don't have anything to say especially during the day like it's an awkward situation so i want to give you guys a little model and stuff because i don't have something to write it down but like if you guys keep track on your paper maybe it'll all make sense at the end of it so for opening and like as i go i also want to like critique his shit with opening you want to give women personal space and not touch them during the day like that is the easiest way to blow you out like you come up behind like some girl you don't know during the day and you touch her she's gonna jump she's gonna scream she's gonna make you maybe you want to get maced i don't know but uh... so what it would be you want to give some personal space yeah steve touch all you want i think if you go up and like you ever have a girl that squirts who has an std kinda like that kinda like mace right it's like a water pick too yes so you want to give them some personal space and not touch them i say like a good four or five feet like if you ever look up like fucking space bubbles and shit like personal space all these people did research on it like one sure within like four feet of someone you're in like their intimate space are their personal space and then within like a foot and a half is intimate whatever so you want to be right outside of personal space and like social space or whatever lots of space so you want to give some room and i'm a big fan of directoring the day so i'll go up and i'll be like you know since you're a little further away after project your voice just a bit to like let them know that you're talking to them but you also don't want to be like so loud like leave your nightclub voice at home you know calibrate to the situation if you're an abacrombie yeah they have music okay you can be a little louder in the bookstore tone it down so i'll go and i'll be like you know show look like i know this is like completely random but like i just had to come meet you and then i'll introduce myself on mickey and then you can close that space gap so i can mark is the girl and i'm opening here once i can introduce myself i can take a step forward put out my hand and she'll shake it and introduce herself now we're a little closer she's not comfortable she'll back up on her own i can take a step back and now no one's intruding or anything so that would be your opener now right off the bat your reaction is usually yes basically not moving right what about moving sets that's a whole other topic i only have like twenty five minutes so i gotta this is like stationary single girl in day game you can talk about group sets you can talk about moving girls but that takes a lot of time if they're moving in a wheelchair you can throw some like stuff on the ground yes then you can help them yeah yeah no a stationary girl so like a girl who's shopping in a store girl who's sitting on a park bench getting coffee in the hospital bed anything you want alright so jesus christ sorry so your initial reaction from that is going to be like lukewarm like you will get like oh my god that's so flattered or you will get them where they reject you by saying they have a boyfriend or whatever but usually they're just going to be like a little taken aback a little flattered not knowing what the fuck is up so you need to lead the conversation from there and i like to do that with a cold read so right off the bat i'll be like you know like i don't know something about you like you really seem like a california girl like if i'm right cool if i'm wrong it doesn't fucking matter she's gonna say where she's actually from she's like no i'm actually from you know fuck it new york right and i'm like dude no way blah blah blah and you can vibe about new york for a minute so like the structure so far has been like open cold read and then i'll just call it like fluff talk about where she's from or she'll ask you where you're from like it starts to get in that little dynamic you can throw in a little attraction switch if you want to like no way my ex-girlfriend was from new york and like we blah blah blah blah blah there right you throw that shit in if you want to it's then from there you're gonna wanna you'll talk for a minute and once again you're gonna want to like all of day game is comforting qualification based like attraction is like bullshit during the day like you having the balls to approach her like that should be enough to get you the attraction you need also you know your non-verbals your body language vocal tonality where you're dressed a lot of your in good shape a lot of your good looking all those things are gonna help you you know having a cool haircut all that shit it goes a long way sort of like passive value value have before you even do anything so then you're gonna want to enter qualification from there after you fluff for a second she can just be like so like what do you do when you're not here sort of like a medium level qualification thing and a lot of times they'll give you like the sort of bullshit response to be like I work I hang out with friends you know I dance whatever their shit is right like they're they don't know how much you want from them so they're gonna give you just a little bit but you want to go deeper than that so you can like tease a little bit like wow you hang out with friends you know me too cool right you know you just it's it's not like hardcore teasing it's just enough like you're keeping it playful friendly and like calling them out on their like shit so to get them to open up more which is your ultimate goal here qualification in comfort you need to share yourself and this is where like sort of I start implementing red stack stuff as far as like pulling in like the stories that Steve was creating like yes robbing his shit right through nevermind uh... even have time to digest that's right so then I'll like going to like my grounding story and start like filling in like who I am like my life never like so like I'll be like dude you have friends you know cool me too and then like then I become serious like no but seriously like for me and like I'll talk about my shit like when I'm not doing this I work in film so I'll be like no but seriously like I work in film and like you know it's it's pretty cool because like I've always been so fascinated with like movies and like how they're made like even as a little kid I'd like watch the same movies over and over again and like look at the cuts and like how they're pieced together and shit you know I go into that and they're like wow that's really cool I'll be like so dude like seriously then I go for the hard qualification I'm like you know yeah you hang out with friends yeah you work whatever but like what do you actually do like what are you passionate about and then sort of unlike that go first principle or whatever you want to call it like you opening up first we'll get her to start sharing about herself is this all making sense I'm going a little fast but we don't have a lot of time cool I'm getting a lot of blank stares it's good so that is like a little structure right there and that'll put you into like the first like seven minutes of conversation and after that like you'll notice the girls like they sort of become invested and you can either like keep going deeper with it like opening yourself up more and like getting them to do the same or you can just let it sort of become like surface level conversation where they'll start like asking you rapport seeking questions sort of in girls like suck at that shit so it's going to be like the most obvious thing they'll be like oh what does your tattoo say oh what kind of films do you make you know all those things like where you from and they'll start going with that they start to try and like insert more into the conversation you just want to make sure from there you're leading it but after that point that is enough to get you a phone number that should not flake like that is all you need and then I mean you need to follow up on the phone text messaging figure out you know your date strategy and all that shit but that is like really all it takes to get a number in day game like it's not that like complicated it's very simple so I guess how am I doing on time anybody yeah I have no watch alright cool I'm just going to keep talking then but actually let me say so like we're in taking taking the seminar with Mickey tomorrow it's obviously an infield thing but theory-wise what it's designed to do is be able to get you a number and get you started on like a day two situation in those types of things if I can just add yes in terms in terms of uh... numbers numbers are something which you know everybody's always excited to get it's always like that's like step one and everybody's uh... gaming development or that's the way for you to calibrate you know where you're going when you try a new phase of game possibly how to get them to not like this again there's all sorts of nuances that you can do but a few technical things you can do two of them would be would be one start to seed something some sort of day two to bring it up using ideas of bait with it so it's not just like like hey I have this amazing thing planned you have to come give me your number maybe something will happen it's it should have a little bit of that's that vibe of baiting in it which would be something like you know what you're totally awesome like I gotta run you know what I know I know we just met I have the perfect thing planned and you would totally dig on it I know we just met whatever but like to give me your number and it's so gonna happen so if it has that element to it now the second part of it would be that I'd say uh... a technical thing you can do is to to see some sort of emotional connection which I kind of did not but if if you say man I don't fucking know but you are you're awesome like you're somebody that totally fucking like vibe with and you know it like that sort of emotional connection there will help big time um... that was like my only fucking way to make numbers stick in the beginning because I was always so like a theory of an artsy and kind of chair like with wings you see me in diapers with angel wings is pretty awesome but um... but anyway I would always I would always put that out there and I would make my numbers stick and would make him stick for a long fucking time like I'd meet somebody in vegas and like just email them and then next time I was there months later it would uh... who would still work and they'd still want to talk to me because I'd always build that like kind of cold read of emotional connection sorry yeah I know that was excellent I mean I guess like first of all does that model sort of make sense to you like did you get enough out of that like I went very quickly but like all you're doing with it is building comfort in qualifying them like that's all it comes down to and like the more like comfort you can build during the day the less likely the number is to flake like they're directly proportional more comfort less flakage yes my touching during the day is when I shake her hand and that's where it ends there's no reason to touch them during the day like if you think about it at night game you escalate your touching because you want makeouts you want blowjobs in the bathroom you want to take them home and fuck them right like that's what you're pushing towards at night during the day you're going like the model is from meat to phone number now same day lays do happen like there have been instances where I've met a girl at this place and then gone back to her place or mine with no break in between we've had sex but it's not the norm it's you know it's it's not something that happens all the time like your structure is from meat to phone number and to get a phone number you need no touching there's no reason for it and the other thing it just really creeps them out like you can do like some light stuff like you can be like you know fist bump high five something like that but like there's no reason to like be really escalating your touching it just like as soon as you see them on the date you can greet them with a hug and then just go from there and build up I have this whole routine where I have rubber gloves and a mask and say I'm a gynecologist and I can smell that she needs a check out sometimes it works and then there's also I have a box in an alley which says I give abortions with a with a hungry rat though instead of a coat hanger and then I stick my dick in yeah fooled you anybody who's dumb enough to fall for that they deserved it I know so I guess it about wraps it up I think they don't know actually but but I was tempted to talk more about day game but I feel like sorry okay but here's the thing guys is if you guys do want to take these programs we actually want to teach them to anybody who wants to learn them and one of the things that I told Fidelio or Otto or whatever you want to call his name back there is if you if you are interested talk to him about it and you know work whatever fucking shit out because we came here to teach and to to share and I know this is a convention where you're learning a lot of stuff but if you are interested in doing something individually let's do it it's for the day game course it's a five hundred dollar thing for the the stack thing if you attended this you get a hundred dollars off so it's six fifty normally seven fifty and then for the thing with mark and I on Monday it's a four hundred dollar thing if you do them all like there's this weird package price that I forget but again basically if you do the infield day game and then the social circle college game thing with Stephen Mark it's seven fifty for both of them as opposed to nine hundred was that our package deal yeah but but if you guys are interested talk to us or talk to the Fidelio back there who's standing up and uh you know whatever they'll just sign your life away we have contracts if you have children you can use them as collateral it's all good but um but in any case also talk to us talk to us afterwards we're doing a layer talk uh... for the top layer right after this we're gonna have a Q&A and uh... you know with all the instructors whoever's around for you guys ask us questions and uh... then we're gonna do a top layer layer talk somewhere in this hotel room I forget where I guess so so um we're gonna be doing it out there for for the top layer you guys are welcome to attend we're gonna be talking about different stuff actually and uh... I don't know who of you guys came to dinner last night but I know a decent amount you guys did um it's all of us and actually a lot of the instructors here are about you know we're very personable people and we're we're definitely here to teach we're definitely here to meet all you guys and shake your hands and then see you next time we come around so that being said uh... if you could tear off that contact sheet at the back and just if you leave it on the table or you hand it to fidelio I would much appreciate it and we'll get in contact with you soon how we do it on time oh yeah there's also a feedback form on there if you uh... yeah if you don't uh... want to fill out the feedback form right now that's fine email it to us but if you do fill it back here just leave it on the table or hand it to one of us we have a solid ten minutes that's better than a loose ten minutes anyway I won't continue we can secure you know we're gonna skewer dude who has a poll now who has any questions and pertinence to some of the courses we're teaching tomorrow or uh... some things about a game or social circle game i know that brad gave a talk about social circle i know that a fc adam came up with it i know that uh... he was talking about it too but it but what the stuff that marks teaching is a little bit different i could talk about it briefly but if anybody wants to ask questions okay uh... just a brief intro to myself i'll stand in the middle here uh... a very quick intro to myself my handle is entropy uh... dock and i teach together up in the northeast were based out of boston uh... it's funny i was out with we were out with sin and el tobo couple of guys last night and news docs twenty-first birthday and uh... course we're getting him absolutely plastered uh... you know and sin was like you know my twenty-first got sucked because i was on bootcamp and like dude that's nothing my twenty-first birthday i was on the phone my long distance girlfriend because i told her she was more important than my friends and like going out and getting drunk so that's kind of like gives you a picture of where i come from and um... just you had a girlfriend yeah at least i had a girlfriend uh... uh... i spent i did you know a lot of people do the five-year plan in college i did the six-year plan like i did two years and then i was like wait i want to start over so i went to another school and i like did four years all-in-all i did eleven semesters and uh... the thing is is is if there was anything that i was natural with when i came to this it was so college social circle stuff like that's all i could really do if you remember adam talked about you know the confidence in the abundance like i had the abundance nailed and the interesting thing is is uh... you know i've been teaching for almost a year now and i get a lot of young guys and they they'll come up and they'll talk to me they'll be like hey what's a good opener to use you know they're like i go to you mass like what opener should i use in the cafeteria like what opener should i use in my dorm stuff like this and i'm like why are you wandering around your dorm like cold approaching like teacher in college like hundred other things you could be doing what i always tell them is i say college like university is the easiest place on earth to network socially bar none by far and um... guys need to take advantage of that you have the rest of your life the cold approach you have the rest of your life to go to clubs and do stupid dance floor stuff you have the rest of your life to you know follow girls around the mall and you know put on a mask and gloves but you only get four years of college or if you're lucky five or if you're like me six and you need to like take advantage of that and so i mean kind of what the seminar is based on a lot of it is what i did because by the end of my senior year uh... it's very similar like my my my results uh... we're very similar to to what adam talked about uh... like once i got into the game i just applied it to my college social circles and they just exploded and i can i talk about how like the college party scene operates on campuses and how you can network yourself through those college parties and you can create this web of social circles like you know it's not one big circle it's like an entire web of them and you get to the point where you are known as kind of like the party guy and like every party spot and then you leverage these parties and your knowledge of the campus social scene for you know if you're in class you sit next to the cute girl and you like the professor you know as like is flying done and so you make a stupid comment and you know you talk to her about homework and then you're like hey i'm going to a party tonight my buddy is throwing this and that should come out you leverage these parties you know you do these very very casual very simple openers very simple conversations they're all situational there's like really nothing to them and then you leverage these parties in this giant social scene and your knowledge of it to pull these girls into your social circle and uh... you know what ends up happening is the massive amounts of social proof you get to the point where you know you're throwing parties where you know eighty girls will show up and uh... you know and then probably fifty guys in tow and out of those eighty like sixty of them know you and you've probably hooked up with like fifteen or twenty of them and so they're all like jealous of each other and like the social proof is just through the roof and all the guys like want to meet you because you're like the fucking pimp who's throwing this party and uh... you know and it's just it just kind of builds on itself exponentially you go to other people's parties like you walk in the door there's thirty girls there fifteen of them already know you you know they all stop and say hi they all hug you they're drunk they're excited all the guys in the room are like who the fuck is this guy i need to meet this guy social proof just keeps building and building and the idea is you get to the point where you basically uh... you just show up and that's where you want to be and uh... it's and the beautiful thing about college is it's the easiest place to do this you know you have all the classroom stuff all the extracurricular stuff fraternities sororities uh... you can even even do like the campus bars campus clubs and you have college party networks the dorm rooms this is all shit that i'm going to go into this is all shit that i lived for years so if you're interested should definitely talk to me or fidelio afterwards i'm really excited about this i feel like it's a topic that like really doesn't get talked about enough in the community i feel like that the community i don't know it's general like pick up knowledge general p u a knowledge it's i feel like it shouldn't be used on college campuses like eighty percent of what you know about pick up shouldn't even like you shouldn't even cross your mind when you're you know in a lot of these college parties so that's the kind of stuff i want to talk about so let's wrap it up by saying you can get a hold of me atopo p u a at gmail dot com or you can do atopo p u a dot com or you can look at my blog which is listed conveniently on your sheets which is the dash red dash mole dot blog spot dot com and these guys stuff uh... you can reach me at entropy at practical pick up dot com our website is practical pick up dot com and my blog is entropy p u a dot com all right uh... you can reach me at dot at practical pickup dot com uh... and w w dot dot call it a p u a dot com uh... there are two l's in holiday i made that mistake many a time and everyone makes that many of my name badge made that mistake jesus you're not bitter and also guys like uh... let's give it up for uh... dream for making this happen next year it will be hopefully like bigger and better and it was better than it was last year