 Listen, I say this all the time that being an entrepreneur is a lonely journey and you need to surround yourself with other like-minded people. I mean, my family, they keep telling me, oh, just get a real job. I'm like, get a nine to five. My brain doesn't work that way. I can't sit behind a computer and do the things that most people can. I'm just not wired that way. My thing is gathering information, retaining, and then how to simplify that information for other people to be successful and the way that they define success. That sounds a lot like the Entrepreneurs' Organization, EO. Are you familiar with it? I'm not familiar with it, but it's got my initials as being also Orlando, so it might be good. Okay, so there's no cost to participate. What are the minimum requirements? I saw that emerging leaders had requirements. Is there minimum requirements to participate in the Street Wise MBA? Yeah, they have to be in business for about three years. They have to have over, actually, two, three employees or more. It used to be from 450 to 10 million in revenue, but this year, we actually reduced it to where it is 250,000. Right now, I'm actually going into session four of the program here in Miami, but one thing that definitely want to let your listeners know that we do have space for the Tampa program. They can definitely reach out to me, and I can actually let them know what they need to do, but it's a great program. I have met some really amazing people. I've been doing this since 2016, and every year, it just gets better and better. I'm really excited because I think that a lot of the business owners, when they walk away, you realize that they have that aha moment, and they're changed for the better because they've been able to come in and look at their business by way of sharing information with other like-minded business owners. It's great. I mean, the synergies and the relationships that people build, and it's become more of a close-knit family because we definitely look after the well-being of one another. Not only here, I mean, throughout the United States where there's some really phenomenal instructors as well. Wow. How did she become an instructor? Actually, I was advised. The program started in South Florida in 2014, and I was advised that the former instructor had gone on to other interests, and Jonel Hine, the Triple D here in South Florida, said, hey, this is available. I do get a lot of support here in Miami, from a lot of the SBA personnel, from Althea to Heather to Tina to Victoria to Amy, I mean, Gus and Ron. You know everyone. Yeah, everybody. Everybody. They're really amazing people, and I think that that's one of the key things that I found that because I have built a relationship with the people down here, and they believe in what I do, and they believe in the cause that it's easy for me to put them in contact with some of the businesses when the need comes. Because remember, they've got so many people that they have to work with, and they spread themselves thin oftentimes, but I think that one of the key things for me is that I have their attention. They've got mine, and the best way that we can work is making sure that the needs of the small business community are being met. So that's how I got involved, and we continue to, listen, we continue to evolve and grow here. We implemented some alumni programming that enterize in partnership with the SBA, asked us to increase because we wanted to keep the alumni engaged. So from what we've done now, we're doing some programming to come in and help those that have graduated continue to grow their business and continue to build relationships with some of the newer participants in the program. It's interesting that you said that, and again, you named a whole lot of people that I recognize and I'm familiar with, but at the same token, I've known people who have not been as successful in reaching some of the people in the SBA. What do you think was the, and I know you said they're very spread thin, but I know some people have walked in the doors and they felt like they haven't gotten a response and haven't showed like this in emails and haven't got any return emails. What would you recommend as a path that they take the people who don't that coming in out off the street trying to make headways to some of the people in the SBA? I think one of the key things is making sure that when they are present at events, talk to them, you know what, communicate. They just had an event on Wednesday, Drive 8A, and they had a really great turnout. And my thing is, number one, I don't take no for an answer. Number two, I don't expect anybody to do anything for me. And I have, listen, it works both ways. There's a lot of people that are hungry for information and they're knocking on the doors and there's some that they just come in and they expect, you know what, the SBA and other organizations, you know what, because the SBA does have some really amazing resource partners from the SBDC here in South Shore, the SBDC at FIU, phenomenal, the way that they work with the small business community. And you know, that's why they have these resource partners to come in and assist and help them. You know, they've got score, they've got the women's business at a Reebok. But I think that one of the key things is making sure that you allow yourself to be known. And one thing that I did was that I started knocking on doors. I started building relationships. I started treating them also, you know, as human beings, I mean, I think the problem sometimes with a lot of the small business community is that they come in and they need to have skin in the game. And I've seen, listen, I've been doing this for years and there's people that come up to me and they say, Orlando, I want to start a business. I said, okay, what do you want to do? And they're like, well, I don't know, you tell me. I get that all the time. You know, it's funny you said that, Orlando, people do, maybe everyone out here doesn't because they haven't been in our position, but I do. Yes, people say, well, Eric, what is the government buy that makes a lot of money? Or what are the top NAX codes that I should use? And I said, no, that's not the way you look at setting up your business. It's not. You know what it is, people are looking for the easy way out and nothing is easy. And it's having a conversation. It's having coffee. It's going to an event. It's approaching the people that are there. If you really need something, I mean, I learned a long time ago, you know, even through my career, you know, being verbal and being a spokesperson for my own business. I mean, I've been a spokesperson for so many other entities that I have to be that spokesperson for myself and, you know, understand that they are accessible. There's a lot of people out there that are accessible. Listen, I make myself accessible. And I give people an opportunity. Hey, let's sit down. Let's have a cup of coffee. Let's converse. And sometimes you give people your contact information and you never hear from them again. And if you do, Eric, they come in and the first thing that they do is that they are wanting something, you know, and they expect you to do it for them. Well, you know what, that's not my job. My job is to educate and empower and inform. And what I say, it's simplified information. But I believe that one of the things that small businesses need to stop doing is overthinking everything. You know, these are people that have a wealth of information, come up to them, talk to them, communicate with them and say, hey, listen, this is what I'm planning on doing. And they will put you in contact with the right resources. I mean, I have had nothing but success with the relationships that I have, you know, from Interize to, you know, the SBA to the SBDC score. I mean, you name it, these entities have actually have been amazing to me. And I think that that's where my business has actually grown because of the relationship that I've established with them. I mean, even Miami-Dade College, I mean, I've met a lot of people with the things that I do. I mean, they've got a great program with the Idea Center. And these are all businesses that when you come in, they are in dire need of information. You know, my background actually is in education. I used to work with Middle High School and college students to ensure that they would reach their full potential. And it's funny that a lot of my students, you know, they were entrepreneurs and it was the evolution of what I do now. But back then, my former students used to overthink and nothing much has changed with the small business community. They're still overthinking. They're still overthinking. You know, I would agree, Orlando. I tell people, go to the stop sign. Go as far as you can see and then determine what to do next. Yes. I do. I tell them, I say, just go to the stop sign. You know, let's go to, they go, well, after that, then what goes over here and what happens next and what's the next two steps. And I said, look, let's just go to the stop sign. And then we'll determine if you make it right. If you make it left, if you continue straight after that. So I totally agree with that. You know, it's interesting. Tell me, what did you do with the Miami Bayside Foundation? Miami Bayside Foundation, they, for years, I actually had a contract with Score. And they had a really great relationship with the Miami Bayside Foundation. And the Miami Bayside Foundation has some really great programs. Yes, they do. Yeah. They have some really great program, you know, working with Kathleen, you know, Murphy, she's a superstar, you know, one of my favorite people. She is always attentive to the needs of the community. I mean, and when she came on board, she, listen, she's done a phenomenal job with the people that she, that she's collaborated with, that she's worked with. And they actually started some programming. And I've helped them with the programming. And it's making sure that the business community here in Miami understands the importance of either launching, scaling, sustaining a business. And they have some really great programming. The program is about, I think they run it maybe three times a year. And they give me the privilege of coming in and launching the classes for them. And I'm pretty involved with them because, you know, I worked with Michael, you know, who also works with the foundation. I just think that they are really good people that are coming out and really supporting the community and providing some really great resources. Not only, you know, by the courses and the classes that they're teaching, but also by way of funding. They do make funding available for some of the small businesses within the city. But listen, they continue to grow. And my thing is, is as they continue to grow, I continue to grow, we all continue to grow. There's more need to come in and develop more things and do more things to help the small business community. But I think that one of the things that I actually set back and looked at within the Bayside Foundation was when they are looking at what they're doing. I mean, from the educational portion to the scholarship fund, to the funding, they have really saturated the economy here by way of helping so many small businesses. And the great thing is, is that a lot of the people that they've worked with are entities that the SBDC also works with, that the SBA works with, that SCORE has actually worked with. So it's become very tight-knit that someone here, one of the small business community or one of the small businesses here, they're actually going to find needs in different areas, but they're going to find and fulfill those needs within their business by reaching out to these organizations.