 Do a comeback. Oh, it's it's time for the daily tech new show come back We're gonna talk about brains And the brain in a jar hey But put it in the car I'd subscribe with my AR device. Yeah Grapple AR brain You know, I think I like about the Apple AR brain is it locks you into their brain world You know like if I want to think to Scott and he's on Android brain Those sorts of things are gonna always be the same no matter what the technology Android brand Hi fiber no taste Android brand Android I would like to where would I like to travel? Hmm at first of all, I hate I like going to new places I hate the journey that it takes to get somewhere See I've learned to love the journey and I want to help you learn to love the journey to you know, I buy my book Poveria Not do anything to help you learn to love the journey though that book reminds me of old Pre-calculus book ahead what really, you know, that's Garrett he meet it in a good way. Okay, it's not like it sounds Bad, I just saying it reminds me because they had a lot of occasion though is like that covers like I did high school textbook Well in heist here. How about this in high school? Covers on your high school textbooks. Yes, we did we had all sorts of things. It's like love this Like why why would my out? You're just saying that because it has the grid. Yeah No Fine he sighed after a long pause I have a plan. I'll need a crowbar You know be kind of cool I've wondered if they could do this is if you flip through a book it could just start talking to you like it would narrate Like it's but it's power to do that with a Kindle. Yeah Kindle does that as you flip the page. Yeah I Think we have your technology already It's just not as he best of times Roger wants it in a book. Yeah, you want to like I want to kind of like a Harry Potter-ish thing Where you marry two incongruent technologies together to make it fun and Exciting we're reading this book called doomsday book by Connie Willis for sword and laser And it's set in the future and one of the things is books have hollows and the guy feels bad because he gets Gives this book to a kid for Christmas and doesn't it's such an old book. It doesn't have hollows Hollows H-O-L-O like holographic. Oh got it Hollows interesting not hollows like a hollowed out book that you keep your weed in Tom Tom Tom you're letting you're letting your your secrets out there. It's my Austin my Austin, Texas is showing Blizzard fill that position What was this so much for associate talent producer for overwatch? Oh, don't forget your live on the internet right now, Roger You say anything more Have a gun yourself in trouble. I just wait. How do I get myself in trouble? You have it. I just You know you start go those brat People made of rats those brat people I Still waiting to see how my application at the local abattoir is doing Experience do you experience cutting meat? Well? Yeah, every time I eat steak We get that a lot buddy. Okay. It's not funny. Yeah All right, shall we begin? Yes. All right. Let's read when you tell me to go. I should give you control. Shouldn't I Roger? There you go. All right Here we go. Ross Scott's gonna read the open three two The Daily Tech news show is powered by you To find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Wednesday, November 8th 2017 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt I'm Scott Johnson from the recently apologized to echo device. I have to tell you the story very quickly. I Got mad at my echo because it was playing something a little loud and irritated me upstairs and I said I Said the name and said not I said shut off or something like that and it felt kind of rude So for the first time ever I apologize to an echo and its response back was Sorry, my word was sorry and it came back and said sorry. I don't know about that So I'm just saying we don't yet have to worry about the feelings of our devices and that's how I wanted to start today show for me I love that where you could have just said from the silicon slopes of Utah I'm Scott Johnson. We get an entire story about how you feel bad about insulting your Amazon echo Also with this producer Roger Chang Roger, do you feel bad about insulting any electronic devices? I don't feel bad about insulting anything or anyone All right, there you go. At least you know I feel so let's start with a few tech things you should know The group planning a hard fork of the Bitcoin blockchain that was expected to happen on November 16th has canceled the fork Put your forks down No fork Segwit two X backers said they could not get a consensus and felt it was important to keep the Bitcoin community together. I Would agree even though I barely understand what they do no for Instagram stories Well, I'll let users upload photos and video older than 24 hours Here's the catch though the stories post will still disappear after 24 hours So sure you got an older thing and you want to put it up there and you forgot to and you're like, oh shoot I should have done this once it's up there in the stories part part of Instagram. It will be gone in a day CD Nets Mary Joe Foley reports that Microsoft's new resume assistant in office integrates with LinkedIn data To do cool things like suggest ways to craft your resume and describe your experience based on like all people in this industry often describe It this way, maybe that's how you should do it as that'll happen right there Microsoft Word features available now to Office 365 Windows users in the Insiders program and it'll come to everybody in the coming months. I'm I'm real quick I just would like to say to this and I mean this Facetiously so to save your emails. Okay, everybody, but I now finally understand what LinkedIn is for Finally user or sorry us users of iOS 11.2 beta 2 can start testing out Apple Pay Cash in beta right now system. Let's you as a user send and receive cash in Apple's iMessage to anyone else Who uses iMessage and it and is on the beta as well. So they need to be using it But that's big news if you care about paying that way now here are some more top stories Facebook and Australia's e-safety government agency are partnering on a system to combat revenge porn so if someone were worried that This person and I aren't getting along and I know they have this picture of me that can contact e-safety Which may then advise them to message? copies of those photos to themselves in Facebook Messenger Facebook would then make a hash identifier of the image They say we're not gonna store the image We're just gonna store the hash But we'd be able to block anyone else from posting an image that matched that hash Facebook total Australia's ABC that there are three other countries besides Australia participating in the trial. I have a theory that makes me a little worried about this. So Actually, it's a good idea. However, there's a workaround already in my head not that I've done this But it seems like if you send that photo Facebook makes the hash Which is basically a I don't know a digital a digital imprint of What's going on there so I can match it later all it would take is for somebody to change that image in some way Yeah, picture of it on a screen which would distort it enough to be still Recognizably you and still harmful but not match the hash So while I think this is probably a pretty good step in that direction or in the right direction I think it's probably got issues assuming that most of the time People conducting this kind of abhorrent behavior aren't gonna go to that trouble It's it's an interesting way to go about it it's it's On the one hand the idea let me state it this way the idea that if I'm worried someone's going to post a picture of me that they have In revenge or because they're angry at me. I can Say hey Stop that picture without having to share that picture. That's great When you're talking about Facebook, which has a lack of trust with a lot of people Wonder how many people are really gonna be feeling comfortable saying alright. I'm sending this thing through Hope they aren't really storing it. Just do like see you and send it at yourself and then everyone's okay Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and we hear a lot from on the show has sources that say Apple is developing an augmented reality headset That would ship in 2020 at least that's the idea the device would supposedly carry its own screen and run an Apple design chip with a whole new OS some sort of reality OS Apple's AR team supposedly works on projects under the codename T288 and uses the HTC Vive for testing purposes purposes, which is sort of interesting Gurman and Alex Webb Also have sources who say Apple may come out with an iPad in 2018 that includes face ID and removes the home button I would think that'd be the iPad Pro, but who knows until that happens. They would in effect be leapfrogging over the I don't remember the name of the difference between the touch ID that was an actual physical button and the one that was not and was tactile but That means we'll skip that all together because that currently is not an option on any of the iPads pro or otherwise So anyway, that'll be interesting but back to the same button. You're talking about they wouldn't get the haptic But yeah, right. It's haptic. There you go. This is I couldn't think of that word back to the AR VR thing It's weird to me that they're testing with it with a vibe I guess not weird, but if they're talking about doing a Augmented reality headset and they're using a vibe to test things Well, that means they're also gonna have it's probably mixed reality headset When you when you think because well, I am curious about that like that could simply be like what hardware Do we have lying around that we can run this thing on while we work out the kinks, right? It might have anything to do with form form and function, but it does imply That at this point anyway, you'd you what you see in augmented reality would be a Camera view, right? Hmm. So I'd yeah if and it's got a screen. It says it's got a screen So if it's got a screen, I mean I could see Apple saying here's what we're gonna do We're gonna give you this real slim cool-looking shades. They just look like you're wearing these like futuristic cool You know glasses, but honestly, it's the cameras. They're gonna be showing you reality you're not actually gonna see through them and And those screens then will will be your ability to view you won't be able to tell you're not seeing reality because it's such Good resolution or whatever like that would be the kind of thing I could see them aiming for and then wanting to unveil I I agree only other thing I would say is if they're gonna really make a new iPad Pro using Face ID. I need to see the What needs to happen there is we need to gain the extra real estate and maybe even an edge-to-edge solution on the screen Oh, yeah, there's no point. There's no no and German did say that that it sounds like it would be have either thin bezels They're almost no bezels. Yeah Over the next few months. Chrome's gonna start blocking certain types of browser redirects that load unwanted pages Gray the first phase will block ads that try to open a new page without being clicked So in those cases a toolbar will note the event case you want to be redirected. You're like now That's okay. I like maybe that's a function I like I don't know the second phase will block pages that reload as an ad While loading the clicked link in a new tab. This is a way to defeat pop-up blocking This is one I think is awful where you like you click a link It loads an ad in your tab and then loads the link you clicked in a new page That's just not the way the web supposed to work. So block that The those two will come in Chrome 64 and 65 the third and final phase which supposed to come in January We'll block hidden elements or ad links disguised as control buttons like play and pause on a video or sometimes They'll they'll make it look like you're gonna control the video and it actually opens a link Those are awful and those should absolutely be blocked as well any none of this is Talking at least that I can see and I'm re going over the article again, but I don't see anything about the Stopping video from model playing wasn't that also coming soon. Oh, yeah, no, there's all kinds of other things They've got it They've got an ad blocker that's going to be built into Chrome supposedly coming next year And there was a whole situation about you know What adds they won't block and how that will work and if that gives Google too much power because they're an ad company And and and how that works and honestly the verge article about this brings up that question too Which is hey, these are all great. Don't want browsers to be allowing this kind of behavior Nobody minds that all the browsers block pop-ups that's that's awesome, but This is Chrome do using their power for good What's the line? Where's the line where Chrome starts saying? Oh, we're just blocking any ads that don't have this this identifier this open source identifier in them that verifies it Well, the only people to use that identifier are our own ads right now So we're blocking all ads that aren't ours. That's that's the kind of stuff people are worried about I need to look at like I would love to see current data on Leadership in the browser market. I don't know where Chrome is compared to where I used to be Where I is now or edge now or any of those things I would love to know if they are inching closer to where Microsoft was thought to have too great a monopoly on browsers and if that has I don't know any blowback on them as well because You know for a long time Chrome was the little browser that could and then it was the one that you wanted Now it's the one that seems to be the biggest and that always has a way of coming back around on itself Very interesting that whole that whole market even even in 2017 browser still a thing man So here's the thing you can always do If you're if you like Scott or like what is the browser market share these days go to netmarketshare.com And you can get the browser market share chrome right now is at 35% Internet Explorer at 12.52. I believe that must count No, wait a minute. This has got to be old. No, this is october 2017 really i.e. Is still at 12.52 percent Chrome 55 at 7.4 percent. Oh, I'm sorry. They're breaking up chrome by version. So chrome 61 is 35 percent If you if you have to total all this up chrome is essentially like Just about 50 percent Firefox is 6.53 percent and i.e. Is 12.52 percent now granted That's all operating systems all device types on the desktop if you go to mobile It's going to be different if you go to console. It's going to be different. Yeah, that makes sense Logitech in the news They have notified users of its cloud operated harmony link device That's going to shut down the service for the hardware march 16th 2018 It's not that far off Meaning you'll no longer be able to control it with an android or ios smartphone though the remote itself should still work If your link is still under warranty though, uh, logitech is going to give you a free upgrade To the harmony hub and if you're out of warranty You might get a discount on the harmony hub. Well, you will there's you know, might there's no might You will get a discount on the can if you if you want it, uh, but you'd still have to pay To replace the thing that you bought in 2011 Intending to use for a long time. Uh, here's the thing. I've used logitech harmony remote since before harmony was part of logitech and I have only ever bought two of them I had a I had a harmony remote That I used forever Until that thing was just broken and then I replaced it Thankfully for me with a logitech harmony that has the hub So i'm lucky But man if I had if my harmony remote of brick broken in 2011, I probably would have bought a harmony link device Why it is have always been hesitant to pick up a harmony remote or or one like it And I remember all my friends I had friends with home theater stuff and they were all Oh, you got to get it. It's the best thing ever it'll change your life And I always seem to be resistant because I didn't like the idea of all these eggs in one basket And that seems dumb now. I think back on it like so what it's remote. I really would like to have I don't want a universal remote that has all my remotes in it. That's too many eggs in one basket Right because of that bad habit or habit. I don't know if it's bad, but this habit of avoiding that I've got so many dumb remotes. Tom. It's ridiculous even just right here by this in office Even with my even with my harmony I end up using the roku and the apple tv remotes because they'll have something on it Like a headphone jack on the roku or the voice activation on the apple tv Like it's just not as simple as it used to be either So I mean on the one hand don't overestimate this if you have a harmony link you can keep using it You just can't use the the web connected stuff like your apps, right? So it's not it's not like it. They've bricked it. You'll see a lot of people saying they bricked it They didn't really brick it. They just reduced its functionality. That does suck, especially if you've had it for a long time Researchers at Dartmouth have developed a program that can determine ways to optimize your router's wi-fi coverage and then 3d print An object that you can make reflective to put on the antenna and guide the signal This is a more effective version of wrapping aluminum foil or soda can Around to reflect the wi-fi away from the window and towards that room in the corner that doesn't get good signal But the program optimizes. It's you don't have to play around with it. You just print using wi-print and boom you got your device They have not released this software yet. They they have described it in a paper But they haven't let anybody else use it. Yeah, wow, will it help my my old Pringles can extender that I used to do Yeah, it might it might be able to do that I I haven't looked into how the software determines the parameters closely yet But you know, if if you can tell it like hey, I just want to have a Pringles can up in my roof shooting that way Yeah, yeah, that's right. I mean it seems like a I don't know it almost seems like a little hackery thing to do and And sort of a sideline thing to do but man, I have been having the biggest problem where I live with new construction Creating additional interesting bandwidth or not bandwidth additional signal use on all the spectrums And it's messing with stuff my bluetooth axe funny My uh 5.4 gigahertz or 2.4 gigahertz wi-fi signals are weird Like everything's being affected by all of this stuff And if you look up just a wi-fi selection when you go check for new wi-fi signals It's hundreds and hundreds of wi-fi stations now So it seems like maybe I don't know this seems like maybe as relevant as it's ever been This is a way for me to not so much about distance but clarity You listen the thousands of you in the audience saying I don't need to print anything out I just wrap that thing around there works pretty good. You're absolutely right. This isn't about that This is about do you want the perfect wrapping? The parabola do you want the most efficient direction? Have you had that one little corner of your house that you just can't quite seem to get the signal? This is for that. This is for optimization geeks Uh who really want to have that that perfect situation and honestly for the paper It's more about determining, you know, how wi-fi signals propagate and what the science behind that is Yep, I would I and plus people like 3d printing stuff that they normally couldn't so this makes this is not a surprise to me or anyone here Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines You can get it at daily tech headlines.com as a podcast to put in your pod catcher Or you can find it on the amazon echo as a flash briefing in the anchor app as a daily channel That you can you can favorite Uh, you can even get in google home. Thanks to anchor. That's all daily tech headlines five minutes or less And you're up to date every day That's a look at our top stories So at the web summit in lisbon uber's head of product jeff holden Announced that uber will test its elevate flying taxi service in los angeles. Hopefully by 2020 In addition to the two previously announced test locations of dubai and dallas fort worth uber also signed a space act agreement This is a thing nasa can do with third parties To not have to go through congress to get approval to have certain partnerships A space act agreement with nasa has been signed to create a new traffic control system To manage low flying vehicles uber's one of a dozen companies developing flying taxi services right now That intend to use some kind of vertical takeoff and landing vehicle There's lots more to talk about as far as who's doing this and what uber plans to do and it's all in the concept phase They don't actually have these vehicles yet and a lot of people say they never will but signing that agreement with nasa to work on Some kind of traffic control system is helping to get over one of the biggest hurdles to doing this Which is a regulatory hurdle if you can come up with a good traffic control system You have a much better chance of convincing the faa that you can pull this off All of that said scott We're living in a world where at least 19 large companies like bowing Are are doing Flying car research for real not like hey, maybe someday but like yeah, we think by 2020 We can we can launch some vertical takeoff and landing taxis What's crazy? I mean it it does feel like an old forecast episode come to life in a lot of ways This used to be the thing of certainly science fiction and speculation and wouldn't it be cool if And all of that and and even lately you hear a lot of people saying well, we never got those flying cars. We were promised Boy, this sure smacks of that that possibility And this is real money and real brain power being spent on a real thing Not just you know a think tank going wouldn't it be cool if so I'm all for this research Uh, I think people should slow down their excitement Just a tiny bit in terms of where we're going to see this most it's going to be Like city-based services for the most part because i'm trying to imagine some sort of vehicle that will land on my rooftop It's not going to happen. Yeah, no no in fact the uber plan to elevate plan Is to lease rooftops with certain large property holders people who own multiple tall buildings Uh and and usually the places that might already have a helicopter landing on the roof of the skyscraper And say hey, we want to we want to lease a certain amount of time and space to test these things with the idea That eventually our service might use your rooftop But one of the examples they give for los angeles Is instead of taking the 32 hour and a half long drive from lax to the staple center downtown Anybody who's ever gone to e3 knows that place very well Uh, you could take this taxi which would get you there in 20 minutes because it just flies over everything Yeah, plus I think it's important not to forget that The as everyone's struggling to get automated cars to be a thing and they're working on All the aspects of that including where the ai is and how good it's going to be and how Human-free it needs to be or how many people do need to be in the car and this sort of stuff As that's all being argued about in the background You know quad copters and and and you know autonomous flying vehicles whether controlled by people or ai have just been advancing and advancing and advancing Collision detection All of that stuff is arguably easier in a sky with less variables There's just less to worry about now. I'm sure there's things. I'm not thinking of but if I had to compare Trying to get to a place where the technology is right for automated flying and automated cars. We're going to get there quicker with the flying Not to say that this won't launch in these small markets or these test markets Without somebody in the cockpit. I'm not saying that so much as I am saying I think the end ultimate goal here is this tax taxi service will will be johnny cab and you're going to go up on top of that thing It's going to pick you up take you where I want to go and then in 10 minutes rather than the hour and a half in traffic You're there and you're done in new york or la or some other major metropolitan area Yeah, and and you're right about the challenges I don't know if I would call them easier, but they're more straightforward, right? It's hard to manage aerospace because you got three dimensions So that that's tricky and that's why they want to partner with nasa to help figure this out On the other hand if you can say hey the air corridor at this altitude between these two buildings One at lax out of the flight path one over at staples center is ours Then you don't have to worry about like checking for lane changes and and and looking to see if the you know If there's something in the road or you know, there's all these variables on the ground that probably aren't going to be there Bird strikes maybe something you have to worry about But but there there are fewer obstacles and fewer lane oriented things More flying oriented things So I I go back and forth in my head like okay Well, it seems more direct because there's nothing else up there, but if this becomes common Maybe now we got a lot of things up there they have to look out for and The risk is greater when you can fall in three dimensions rather than just slide around in two dimensions That's true. Plus, you know, you're talking about airspace where You know an amazon courier service is also being developed and who knows how that stuff gets up and going So then now you really do have unpredictable traffic where something was Malfunctioning or whatever. So all of that stuff is true But I always look at it this way if I want to take a bus from la to new york Or if I want to fly from la to new york The statistically safer route is the air Why it's because we've created this system of like You know a pretty automated process Even the even the landing and taking off is so much more automated than it used to be Whereas that bus has got a million factors to think of between there and there That are human related mechanically related everything else so I do think the sky holds a lot of potential and I like that they're all working on this But I guess I'm amazed that we're talking about a thing that used to be just Almost a joke even in science fiction. It almost felt like a joke We're just never going to get to a place where that kind of thing is possible And yet here it is real money real people meet george jetson. Yeah I I know that there's a lot of skepticism About whether vtols can really work. Can they really be electric? Can they really be fully automated? Can you really get the regulatory hurdles out of the way to make this safe? And even if you can do all that can you convince people? Yeah, I want to take an elevator up to the 100th floor of a skyscraper and get in a helicopter with No pilot have it whisk me through the sky These these are all these are all big hurdles But the fact that there are so many I mean it's not just Boeing. It's airbus. It's uh sarah gay brins thing kitty hawk He's got two of them at google. There's so many companies looking into this. There's the one in dubai There's the one in saudi arabia like they're they're all over the place And and and so it feels like just statistically Roger backed me up here doesn't feel like one of these has got to succeed One of them actually I would say even two I think really the the biggest hurdle that I see is And I've harped on this before it is just can you make money at it? Right, it's it's all and good you can get every pretty much all the issues that have been raised are Are not insurmountable. They can be solved The question is as a business does this can you can you elite? Can you even break even on this operation because running especially running Vertically Vertical landing and takeoff aircraft. They're just very maintenance intensive. I think this require a lot of Uh, well, that's partly what these companies are trying to fix is like can we make them less maintenance? Intensive can we make them easier to fly? The challenge is mount up. It starts to look very daunting, but Yeah, it's uber fix. They can do it uber fix. They can they can keep the ride down to like 20 dollars They're they're jeff holden still saying like you'll you'll want to do this and not own a car. It'll be cheaper than owning a car Yeah All right, and don't forget an optimist uber cars on the other end are part of this. It's not flying you everywhere It's you know, I take a car from lax to the lax Point that's outside of airspace then I take the taxi to staples center and then I take another car to my hotel Are you saying my transit system will now become its own ecosystem that I have to buy into? Lovely. Yeah. Oh, I can't I can't ride with you to the hotel. I'm on lift. Sorry I mean, you're not wrong and also, um It starts to make me wonder stories like this and conversation like this starts to make me wonder if automated cars and the uber on the ground world Isn't a stop gap to this other thing. Anyway, you know what I mean? Like we're just going to skip straight to we're going to be in the air all the time I don't know. There's always a last mile question, but yep very interesting All right, let's get to our message of the day in our analyst's slack. Sakane, right? noted a reason why amazon cut back its grocery Delivery remember we talked about well, that's odd. They just bought whole that's odd They just bought whole foods. Are they just going to throw in with instacart now somehow? Why would they be cutting back on their grocery delivery? Well, Sakane says the areas where service is being cut I believe all have groceries delivered by the u.s. Postal service instead of amazon's own drivers The post office has been doing an experiment since 2014 with what they call customized delivery services Which allows them to do weird things like grocery deliver at 4 a.m. On sundays that experiment after one extension officially ended on october 31st Now I assume amazon was planning on another extension of the experiment, but it wasn't approved for whatever reason So fresh service may return either once amazon gets new deal with the usps Or once they build out an appropriate network to service those areas So that makes a lot of sense and he's got a link to a consumerist com article about the u.s. Postal service delivery System that expired on october 31st and hey if you haven't been keeping up at our website daily tech news show dot com You may have missed Sakane's latest edition of his column your private driver Which goes into details of how drivers for companies like uber and lyft do or don't make money And he's got experience as a driver doing this so go check that out daily tech news show com nice All right, mr. Scott johnson. Thank you so much for joining us as always of course if you're wondering We didn't mention at the top of the show. I forgot sarah lane as I mentioned yesterday on assignment But she will be back with us tomorrow in the meantime scott if folks want to find out more about what you got going on Where should they go? 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It makes me want to make my own for Good work roger That's really good I mean it was I don't know Maybe depends on your it might make some people panic, but for me, it's like the perfect Like no well one of the things I love about our little music gimmick on the round table show Where we hit 15 minutes and roger just starts playing some soft music to let us know like hey Okay time to move on is that I don't have to think there's one less thing as a host that I have to like I don't have to be looking at the clock and this is the same thing. It's like oh it's turning orange. All right Yeah Wrap it up because it's like the oscars when the music starts playing you off either know how to handle that gracefully Or are you Stay there even in monthly music. Well. Yeah with this That nobody else knows so you're feel like no, I've got one more point like You know, whatever um the music I try not to make it like oscars level where they make it really loud or anything, but yeah a little different whole different deal 30 minutes And don't get me wrong. I don't mind going 32 minutes I'm just being a numbers geek right now that we've hit 30. Oh, oh, exactly. I like it. I like if an efficient You know, that's great, and I'm not even that big of a nerd for it, but I think it felt really good nerd titles The internet of bricked things It's not bricked. Okay. Got it another brick in the wall Iot wall print the power of a Pringles can I used to do that I still used to download chrome browser You kind of have to when you first start windows 10 it's not like anything else is loaded Uh up up in uber away LA to get flying ubers in 2020 a year after blade runner Actually did uh, were there flying taxis in the blade runner. I thought it was just the cops Well, they were flying there were other flying cars besides the cop, but you just kind of saw them in the distance So I don't know my presumption is some of them are taxis. Yeah, they were they were more explicitly taxis in fifth element Yeah, there were lots of those Uber leaping tall buildings by 2020 uber ready for lift off Get it get it stick a fork in it. There's no fork. No fork for you There is no fork No fork That's pretty good In LA 2020 you you'll believe an uber can fly Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's uber man And he's still using gps to find out where you are on the same block I love this one. Sorry. This is never going to make it but scott fibs about understanding what linkedin is for All right, I need a title. What are we picking? um the Up up an uber away uber leaping tall building What we didn't really mention lift Ubers LA plan to take flight in 2020. Oh, it's so long All right, all right up up an uber away. All right. It's silly, but that's fine. That one works. Yep. That works Up up an uber way I also like uh Facebook's porn hash is pretty good I Good old face. That's a pretty daunting thing Because what you're being asked to do is put a photo up there that you think you might someone might hold against you someday It's just weird. Well, and and that's that's what I was trying to get at like if you trust facebook You're like, okay, this is perfect because I don't need to You know tell anybody but I can I can make sure this thing Uh stays away and nobody'll know Yep, if you don't trust facebook you're gonna be like, I'm not giving you my no. I'm not giving you that photo. Yeah Whenever I have to restart my machine I have to re-edit all of my id three tags Okay, you have to reboot to do that Oh, like when I you have to reboot to do updates, you know, like And then when I come back Do the uh audacity audacity, you know because it got shut down. It doesn't remember the id three Malin do efficiency I'm with you. I also likes that Thrumwald wants to know why the hash couldn't be created locally. That's a great question. Um Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure facebook's saying well, you already have messenger So we'll just do it for you and we promise we won't keep it But there could if you could have a special app That could be audited so that people know that the code's doing what it says it's supposed to do You could do it locally. You absolutely could and then just up on the hash What's some hash brown? I'm not eating potatoes these days though. It's very much right here on the no carb diet. I'm not on the no carb diet I'm on the no potato diet Oh That's a hard diet. It's actually easier And it cuts out almost as many calories as doing the no carb diet without cutting out the nutritious carbs So you can do like a whole grain You know bread or something. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I like I eat whole grain bread. I eat crackers I even eat pasta try not to eat too much of it The potatoes are virtually empty of nutrition. I mean, they're not totally especially if you eat the skins But what if you're dipping a whole sleeve of ritz crackers into ranch dressing? The ranch dressing provides you protein I mean that would technically be okay under my rules, but it's violating the spirit I agree I don't think I would do that today, but I may have done that today. I'm just saying what did I do? Oh, Eileen, uh, brought us home fried chicken the other night Uh, and I was like, oh, that's great Then she brought it home and it had mashed potatoes and gravy in it. I'm like, yeah, you eat it. It's not mine. I didn't eat it Well, I'm fried the biscuit I'm terribly committing to things like that It's uh, it's hard It definitely helped me at blizzcon though because A lot of times when you're at conferences like that The easy food is the potato food and it's the one that's going to pack on the most pounds Yeah, potato food is the easy food yes I that's what my mommy used to say back in old county potato I metabolized different at that event. I end up walking so much and so hyped up that I It doesn't matter what I eat. I'd burn everything just burn. Oh, yeah I just nervous energy. Yeah That was the one thing is first time I've had the apple watch out of blizzcon I did not walk nearly as much as I thought I did I did all right Because yeah in my mind I usually go, oh, well, I'll be walking so much that'll make up for a lot of a lot of stuff But not as much as I expected that's so much Well, you do a lot of sitting down listening to talks and Sitting down and eating ice cream and Sitting down and watching I mean I sat for I kept running into the thing where I'd be like, oh wait, but I'm Telling me I need to stand up, but I'm in the middle of a But you know, yeah, you're in the middle of a con you stand up someone will leap on your chair Yeah, yeah, exactly There's people behind us someone's went to blows for blows Yeah, there was somebody somebody was holding seats in the press area with a couple of jackets, but not people and There was some really angry people Comic-con where the guy stabbed someone in the eye with a pen for a seat in hall H Oh, man That would have gone poorly I did I guess you got arrested Really? Hall H a comic on Yeah, you can stab someone in the eye Damn How could you do that? Because people don't understand like Part of it is that um when for anyone who doesn't know hall H is like this big um cement Auditorium at comic-con and typically those are all with the triple a Panels that are held in there and so they make you wait the lines are long And the lines take forever to pass through right so you'll be say it's on a Saturday or Friday you'll line up in the morning around eight You probably won't get until like one or 12 or one. So you're just waiting the entire time people just get kind of Frustrated It's like people sitting in traffic when they lay on the horn They throw stuff or they Do worse So I avoid those situations now I've never seen anyone throw anything in traffic. Luckily I've I've seen people throw things at me physically in traffic Well in a four-way intersection. Yeah, wow I had a friend who threw uh Were you wearing that shirt that says please throw things at me though? No, I also had some jerk This was back in high school. He shoved his car into me and he pushed me into the intersection from the crossbar Oh, jeez Because I mean That's just awful. If he wasn't in a car I would have beaten the bejesus that in because well actually no He would have had been in the car to push me He was he was being a jerk and I don't know why like I'm like just kids Drive around me. It's like Really I did end up on someone's hood in front of a taco bell one time. Oh my gosh, dude. Oh, no I was uh, I was walking out of there was a the hole in the wall bar in austin Oh, wait, it was jack of the box not a taco bell There was a jack in the box right next to the hole in the wall So we're walking out of the bar we come walking somebody's coming through the drive-through and they're coming out and me and two other friends are walking and they just kept Coming and I ended up like leaping onto their hood So that they didn't knock me out or were they like somehow I mean, they weren't going fast. They were just rolling out, you know Who's drive-through coming from a dead stop but still Ken in the chat room says we should be glad we missed the la driver shooting each other back in the 90s I remember that that was in the 90s. That was the late 80s into the 90s When you say you remember it I remember seeing all the news reports. It was a big deal. Yeah, there was uh, there was a little There was a political ad About uh, and you can tell you it was late 80s. You can because it was super racist But basically they had a bunch of um Arab men dressed, you know with the traditional outfit and they were kind of posited as Terrorists, but the guy who's like leading the whole thing He's like you got to be careful when you're there Make sure you don't make eye contact do all this because you know la freeways are filled with wackos We're gonna shoot you if you cut cut in front of that was always exaggerated though I mean it happened, but it was not It was like bernie gets and in the subway vigilante stuff like it wasn't it was all the bronston movie It wasn't everyone's daily experience like steve. That was is it the jerk where steve martin just pulls out his gun And he's like shooting on the three one I only remember bits of that movie I remember the glasses and the cross-eyed people because of the magnate la story. It was la story. Thank you Now the question is there's a question. What did I forget to do? Oh, I thought it was a quiz because I got distracted by talking about Freeways and getting hit by cars Yeah, I'm gonna say that la is a lot nicer than whatever. Remember as a kid like traffic isn't as terrifying And by kid I mean back in high school Well, it's because well, there's probably some truth to it, but also back then Everything's more terrifying the younger year. I think yeah, that's true, too No, I remember rolling out of the staples center because we were Back back when I was me and dan Mitchell were still on screensavers And we went to an event there and we were getting Met up with a with an old intern and we're driving out to Santa Monica and we got on the freeway and remember passing What neighborhood needs to lay sick? Oh my god don't And I went by that area recently and it's like not it's like 100 improved. It's like it does not have that same Not just the same feeling but before not only did you have bars in the window? You had chain link fence with razor wire on top of it Like I can understand the bars in the windows, but it just felt like well Manhattan That first time I ever went to Manhattan was like 96 I think and I felt like okay got to be careful in New York City You know because I'm not from here and I got to keep my eyes open Uh, I don't feel that way at all going to Manhattan now Manhattan is yeah the first time I went here I remember it was with Patrick Norton and he kept telling me it's like oh this used to happen here This used to happen here that yeah And remember when uh all the big names started moving to Times Square people said it's losing its soul the grittiness That you know the topless the topless right right. Yeah times square is like a tourist destination now. It's not a seedy See, you know downtown San Francisco used to be like that there used to be a bunch of not just topless topless Cinemas and stuff, but there also used to be like second-run theaters and stuff all the way down to the ferry building It's all gone. No more open-air arcades where kids and you know indigent people just kind of waste a while away the day stuff and quarters in the machines who I miss those arcades I don't I don't Air arcades. I miss those I Miss the camaraderie when all your friends came with you or you would meet them there I don't like playing video games with sticky joysticks and buttons that half work because some guy punched it in too hard well We try to punch it in hard for you every day here on daily tech news show And I I hope our efforts are appreciated We thank you for supporting us and um We'll be back tomorrow Bye and if you're a patron stick around for this special message from scott johnson listen