 a block, which is learning how the word friendship changes as you get older. I think you mean just how friendship changes, not the word friendship. No, because I- Is it the word as well? Well, okay, yeah, it's two and one. When I was a kid, a friend was like stone, man. Like to be like, that's my- I'm in the same boat, keep talking. It was like, that's my friend, that guy's my friend. Like that, to me, was like lifetime shit. But then you learn as you get older that people will call you a friend when they're right. They're not, and you know, people will say, like, I'm friends with Brendan. Yeah. You don't know that person. Yeah. People say that all the time. The word itself is what I meant by that was it gets thrown around and it loses all meaning. Well, out here it means dick. Yeah, but I think Hollywood, yes. But also like I learned it from my dad. Like my dad sometimes will say, you remember my friend blah, blah, blah, blah, who so-and-so and I'm like, you haven't talked that guy in 32 years. That's not your friend. That's a guy you need. I have a buddy and friend. I literally, the guy's a buddy, man. See, I like that. Or he's my friend, yeah. That would be more, okay, that's more appropriate for an adult to be like, oh yeah, that guy's a buddy. But I guess the word changed so much shape as I became an adult. Yes, and also our business. The business that we're in specifically, friend is such a, it's just changed. Pesos. Pesos, pesos. It's useless, it's like almost useless. It is, it's out here. It's just, it's the value. It's like love, when people go, I love, it's like nothing, you've ruined it. Brilliant, Hollywood has ruined the word. Journey, journey. Journey, he's on a journey. A bunch of fucking Vasco de Gamos out here. So many people on journeys. It's bullshit. So it just has ruined what I thought as a kid, friendship, that's a core thing. And so now I see when someone's like, who really is your friend? It's a very- It's like, I find it staggering. It is, but it's a wake up call a little bit to the way that- To what though? That's what I, so we had our very famous following up. And part of that was like, yo, I didn't feel like you were my definition of a friend. And so it's not, I don't know what I'm saying. It's like, so you're as guilty as anything. What I'm saying is, and I overreact, meaning like, it's not my definition of a friend. So then I'm like, completely affronted. Like this is a total affront. And this is a, if I'm in free fall, it's like, I'm not free, but like I can't believe, I don't want to learn the lesson. Do you know what I mean? Like I don't, okay. So I now think friendships are shallow. Now what? Right. Is my life better? Because I'm very aware that it's how fucking shallow things are. No. I want us all to live in bunk beds. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I want you to use my shower. I do want to use your shower. Like I want to live, like when I've worked with people, it's like I want to me and Dave to live in a bunk bed and me and Mike Schur to live in a bunk bed and me and fucking Derek Delgotti who did my show to live in a bunk bed. And then when, and we don't, I'm not, again, we're all adults, so it's like, but when we don't, or when it's like, I still find it a little like, wait a minute, I thought we were all gonna go back to the dorm that we all live in. But I'm gonna go eat? Yeah. But are we gonna go play video games? But that's, I think it's a wake up call to the truth of that we're all alone. That you have to just value the connections that you do make and be malleable with them because they will inevitably change. There's people that I was very, very close with that I no longer speak to. Not for any detriment to our, it was just that's the way that life kind of did it. I learned that, you, I'm sure, have learned it. No, I haven't had it. Well, we don't have kids and it's like, my good friends with kids, the life dynamically changes. It's out of their control. And then- Yeah, it should. You know it should. That I believe, it's like, yeah, all right. But you don't know how to, you know, it just, it happens the way it happens. I consider every child a friend has a betrayal. No, I do too. And they should give me- So thank you for sticking with me. I can't believe the things that have transpired in friendships where I'm like, did that really happen? Yeah. Did that really, I cannot believe that that happened. And I don't, the thing about, I like, the thing about being alone, I spent the day reading, I spent yesterday reading and I was like, I really like this. Yeah, it's nice. I really like it. And I'm like, was I supposed to be, I mean, I have spent large portions of my life alone reading, but so when I do go outside for a friendship, I'm like, all right, well, hopefully this will last forever. Being alone or being a friendship? No, you both, but I mean, you do like being alone, but you do- I really like being alone. But you do like friendship. I love friendship. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like I, this is a dumb thing to say, but some of the best moments of my life are with my friends. Of course. Yeah, like I would argue probably all of them or most of them. Oh, I would say all of them. Yeah. But that's why I think it's so weird or hurtful when you realize the truth of a relationship. Like I said this before, but there was a guy that I thought I was friends with. I said something to the effect of, that's one way, that's one way to treat your friend. And he was like, we're not friends. And I was like, that's the fucking meanest thing. That's like the meanest shit anybody's ever said. When was this? A couple of years ago. It was shocking. And it was ingest a little bit, but I know he meant. No, that's not ingest. There's literally not a tone. You know what I mean? He was being like, well, come on, we're not friends. We're not friends, right? I mean, we're chat buddies or whatever. Right. And I was like, oh fuck, yeah. I mean, that one hurt. That one was weird. Not because it's like, oh, you're not my friend. It's more like, oh, I guess. Well, it's like, then what do we do? Like, what am I calling text in you for? And like thinking about you. Yeah. Why am I thinking about you? Yeah. Why am I considering you in my life? That's okay. That's okay. I was okay with it. I just, I was a little off. I was put off by it where I was like, oh man, I guess my perception of this was odd, particularly because we had communicated often enough where he'd be like, yeah, that's a friend. We've done things together. But. Does that person have friends? No. Well, no, not really. No. I just assumed like I cracked the code. You know what I mean? Right. We're cool. We're very cool. Where if you text me without me texting you, I assume you're interested in some form of relationship. Yeah. I would assume, but especially if it's not business driven. If it was just business driven, totally different. I understand that. It just was not. So that's unusual. It was unusual. That's unusual, that kind of stuff. And so I just, I guess you just learn what that term means and what friendship is as you get older. And that's, it's hard for me to grasp. The reason it's a block is because I'm, it still is hard for me that I'm like, oh man, I thought this was more important. Like I thought friendship was more important. Yeah. Like, I just like. It's not. We keep using the shower thing, but I'm saying like. Yeah. You're just on the lit. Like you're just in the, you're on the fucking, but it's more than the rotation. It's like, I have a tablet, like a rock, like a Moses tablet and there's just like, the certain people is like, yeah, you're on it. Yeah. Yeah. Why? I don't even know sometimes. But it just is. You just are on the, you're just on this tablet. And then when I find out I'm not on your tablet or you don't even have a tablet. I'm like, why did I, like, what do you, what's your orientation of life to the, I'm talking to the person like, so what do you, I was talking to a guy one time, a comedian friend of mine and he was like a really good friend. I'm good. And I go, I go, are we all, I was talking about comedy. I was like, are we all friends or is this entirely transactional? He goes, I think it's entirely transactional. I was like, that's heavy. That's, I don't know. I know. And I said it yesterday. I was arguing, not even arguing with somebody. We were just talking about the definition of friendship. Like, how are we defining this? And I said, look, I, I'm kind of, I guess I'm like a friend drama queen. Like, do, are we friends or not? Like, cause I think about you and then I go, well, maybe we're not friends. And maybe like so and so said, it's all transactional. It's like, it's not transactional. I love you. I just, I just am bad with, you know, X and trying to- That's okay. And he's like, and I imagine you have so many friends. I was like, I don't have so many friends. No. No, you hear the tone of the note? I mean, the volume and the tone of that note That is true. Was, was eviscerating. But you know why? It's because you don't know, you're taking it the wrong way. It's because you don't, you don't have friends that you're not gonna dedicate a real relationship to. That's a thing that you do too when you're growing up is you're like, well, I don't wanna mislead somebody into thinking that we're real good buddies if truly we don't have that connection. That's just value. I think that's more valuable than, than having all the fries guy, he's friends with I every one of you. It's like, that's bullshit. Just core the thing that matters than the people that you are friends with. It means something, you know? Like this, I'm not taking a shot, but it bothered me so much when Sebastian did Seinfeld's Cars and Coffee. I don't know, maybe it was the second time he did it. I know he did it more than once. But he said something to the effect of, who's your best friend? Sebastian said that to Seinfeld. Now, I know this is a Seinfeldian answer. It's not lost on me. He that he was like, best friend. Who has best friends at all? I get it. I know the Seinfeldian of it all. But then he continued to kind of go into beyond the bit of like, it's a ridiculous question. We're old men. I have my wife and, you know. Well, no wife will let you have a best friend. But I, but, but what bothered me about it was after the comedy is over, a piece of me could tell that it was like, Seinfeld was truly saying, I don't have fucking time for friends. Like I- The fucked up thing is he talks to a guy named Barry Marner every day on the phone for two hours. So his best friend? Yeah, yeah. It's funny. And he has for decades. And perhaps that was a thing, it was a bit. I know it was a bit. But also there was like a, I don't know, like a darkness to it about Seinfeld that was like having friends is a little stupid. No, I know what you mean. I don't, I think he's doing a bit because he literally talks to a guy on the phone every day. He must. Like a 10-year-old boy does. But that shows my, you know. It's a funny thing because I've never heard another man bring this up. The importance of it. And the value of it. And like, no, I need people that I can count on, not even like my emergency contact. It's like, whatever the category is. Like. I don't need you to come to my rescue when it's like, well, that's who your real friends are when the stuff gets hard. No, I just mean like people that I know emotionally I could see in a lot. Paul Bearers. Paul Bearers, yeah. Who's gonna carry me when I'm dead? Literally my Paul Bearers, like who are they? Who's gonna, that's right, yeah. That's what I'm looking for. And like, are you in? Yeah, are you in, dude? Like, are you gonna fucking carry my dead body or not? Like I, and I'm happy for it to last that long. Yeah, totally. Like that's how long I would like it to last. But just tell me if you don't have strong arms. Look, tell me, I can, we can get like wheels.