 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talk of the town. Fuckin' the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down. Reachin' the smiles and the frowns. Gang hop out, then we clarin' the pr- Alright, so, hey guys, we're in a new episode of Talk of the Town, and today we have a special guest. God, block work. Face all and shit, we outside, man. So, we're gonna play a game. I'm gonna ask you questions. First thing to come to mind, celebrity crush. Damn, Nicki Minaj. Okay, describe New York in one word. Most underrated? Me. One sentence for your ex? One sentence? I ain't gonna lie, thank you for making me go all out. I ain't gonna lie, I needed that. Word. Which rapper would you not let date your daughter if you had one? I ain't gonna lie, Blueface. Skies of Pimp. Favorite one-hand wonder? Hm? Favorite one-hand wonder? Oh, I ain't gonna lie, Dizana. He's definitely a one-hand wonder. Fuck with her. Fuck with her, I ain't gonna lie. Okay, worst song ever? Oh, my. Nasty BK, his whole catalog needs to get put in the garbage. Somebody trashed that. Or I got Brad for you, you could trash that. Got one song, though? It's like, one song. Like, the Jada song. The song you made about her? That was terrible. He tried to pull his heart out and it just went wrong. Okay, what are you most lazy about? Nothing, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't lazy at all. So you're excited to do everything? Everything, everything. Too much is never enough of... What's that supposed to mean? Too much is... It's like, what could you never have too much of? Money. Girls, music, clothes, there's a lot of stuff. Food, weed, there's a lot of stuff you could never have enough of. Last thing you spent money on? Probably some food. And what talk of the town award should you be nominated for in 2023? I ain't gonna lie, most energetic. I feel like I'm mad, energetic. Or definitely most underrated. Cause like, come on now. It's me, it's me, it's Blocky the G, we know. I'm mad underrated, like, alright. You feel like you're the most energetic, though? I ain't gonna lie, I definitely got a different type of energy to it. Like, when you listen to my music, I feel like you just hear different, even when I didn't do drill. Like, you still feel my shit. So I feel like you definitely can feel some type of energy coming from my shit every time. Okay. Cause, you know, niggas say like, you gotta be screaming and stuff. Or just like, mad energy and stuff. I feel like the screaming shit is played out now. I don't feel like you have to scream to be energetic. I feel like it's just your cadence, seeing how you tone it. You feel me? You don't gotta be so rah rah rah and be like, everybody else's, you feel me? I just try to stick to what I know how to do in my being myself. When did you feel like you got into, like, what's your sound, I guess? I would say, that's a piece my son dot. Like, after my son passed, I really started, like, locking down and kind of like going back to the old shit I used to do in peace and stuff together. And I just figured out, like, what my main focus and what I'm trying to do with my music is from there. Okay. And then, I guess, what would you say was the, like, so was it before or after music? After. Okay, so in finding a sound, working with different people, how did you go about doing that? I kind of now, before I used to do a lot of music with anybody, kind of everybody, I would say. And now, I kind of just go about doing music alone because I feel like I'm best alone. So, like, I kind of heard songs by myself where I feel like I would have never been able to make this song with somebody else. Because it's like, when you're doing a song with somebody else, you're following their lead or they're following your lead. So it's kind of like, I just wanted to work on myself and learn how to build myself as a character as a rapper first before I try to go do any type of features and shit. So, are you cool with features right now? Are you ready to jump back in there or what do you think? Definitely, I ain't gonna lie. It just definitely depends. I feel like my music, it changed now, so I definitely need somebody that's gonna, like, come with that shit. Like, we gotta be on that shit better and I can't smoke you on the future, like, for sure. Anybody from New York or? Yeah, definitely. Now nobody really. Couple people from New York, but I'll say a majority's not from New York. Anybody want to shout out? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Shout out to my moms, man. No abortion. We here. Fucks. I'm talking about, like, anybody. You wanted to say it, in music? No, yeah, like, anybody from New York that you fucking with, that you don't mind name-dropping, or out of town that you fuck with, that you can see y'all working together? I ain't gonna lie. Sleepy Hollow, Stunning Gambino, J.R., IceBice. For me, it's a couple people out there, like, to me. Then what about out of town? Out of town, I like Lil Critch. I think that's Kodak artist. A couple, like, Miami niggas, like GMK, I fuck with y'all. Lil Tyler, you up to Lil Tyler? Yeah, I fuck with, like, the Miami sound. I like they wave, that's coming up right now. That shit fire. Okay, okay, okay. So, have you been on TikTok, or not that much? A little bit, yeah, I'll say, yeah. You, they talk about you often on TikTok. Yeah, that's why I kinda stay over there. Be boned, I'll say. So they be on TikTok, like, oh, your plan finally worked. Do you feel like you had a master plan, or do you feel like it all just kinda... I wanna say I never really had a master plan, for real. It kinda just, like, the way it looked to them, is that's what it looks like. But in the, really in the end, like, I just been said this shit. Like, I don't see me being, like, the orchestrator of none of this shit. Everybody chose to make the decision, and it kinda just planned out how it said it was. So, I didn't have a plan, niggas, it was just... I'm not gonna say I manifested it or didn't manifest it, but I seen through niggas, and niggas wasn't for me, so I just put it out there, you feel me? And look, shit, now, everybody beefing. Yeah, now everybody's beefing. Kinda sad, oh, shit, now. But everybody is beefing. So, like, what do you see for the future? Like, what do you see now? Since you clearly have the master plan, what do you see for the future? I ain't got a future, I'm just gonna keep my foot on these niggas. Next, keep dropping music. I'm about to really get on some album shit where I start pulling out, like, multiple albums, you feel me? And just, like, keep giving these niggas a new, like, sound to my shit, cause I feel like I could do everything, like, or... I'm outside of drill, I'm a real artist. I feel like we haven't yet to see, like, a drill artist ever reach their full potential. Yeah, I feel like everybody, they get there, and then they do either some dumb shit or niggas ain't really, like, hungry enough to keep going, you feel me? Like, shit, where? Is that... I feel like cops will even be for the death, like, I smoke, you know, like, see it? Full potential, so it's like, it's kind of hard to, like, you know, where do you think drill gonna go? Do you think drill gonna die out, or do you feel like we still see it going? I feel like drill can kind of die out, but it might be if I have a shit, this shit's spreading everywhere, it's like, no say so now, like, everybody's doing drill everywhere, and they own little ways, so it's kind of spreading, like, across the whole world, like, niggas in Africa doing drill, I seen a Chinese nigga do drill, like... So I don't see this shit dying out no time soon. But I feel like a lot of the younger people are getting lit now. Yeah, definitely, they paying attention to the younger people who are doing it, because it's like, it's watered down now, I was saying, they're looking for a son to, like, kind of make it interesting more, and I guess, like, the youth is doing it. They believe in the youth, it's whatever. Do you feel like the youth is inspired by y'all, or do you feel like it's a mixture of us and Chicago, or do you think it's some whole new sound? No, they definitely inspired by us, just knowing that we from here, and they from here, so it just kind of makes it like, damn, we can do this shit too, so I definitely see them being inspired by us, so we just got to make that, like, better, like, they looking at us for their own reasons, but we got to make them niggas want to be us for the right reasons. So knowing, like, people are looking up to y'all, like, how do you go about, like, you know, making your choices now? You got a fan base, they ain't have people, you know? I kind of try to move more smarter with, like, smart with the stuff I do. Before, I used to be loose, and just, like, not really care, because I was on the streets, and, you know, running around in the hood. But now, as music has changed my life, and it's, like, more of a career for me, so I kind of just watch the stuff I do, knowing that little kids run up to me, and they know me, you feel me? I'm influencing them, because they love my music, they listen to you, you feel me? So I just try to move more professional, business-wise, as a grown man, even though I'm 19, and just show niggas that it's bigger than drill, you feel me? It's a little different. So that's definitely in person. But what about on social media, though? I ain't going on social... Because you be posting stuff. You be going there, bro, so, like... I ain't going to let people get me there, though. I should be just, like, out of emotion, like, sometimes I don't even be thinking, but from before, like, I would say a year or two years ago, I'd definitely been cutting down, like, slowly and slowly, like, I could see myself, like... I mean, I don't see you don't live as much. Yeah, definitely. No more live. No more, like, direct posts anymore. Like, it's just, if you know, you know, like... You don't really tag people, OD, like you used to. I mean, I guess, progression, slowly. Yeah, a little slowly, too. Soon I ain't going to be even worried about the model, and that's what I'm trying to work on, work to get into right now, you feel me? I'm just trying to get to where I... It's just me versus me, you feel me? Do you be posting shit, and you're like, damn, they caught that, too? Yeah. Hell, yeah, sometimes I'll just be posting stuff to let them express how I feel, and I'll be like, damn, shit. Please don't like all types of pages, be worrying about it and shit. That's why I realize, like, damn, we got to chill, like. Everything is televised, like. How do you feel about, please, don't like? Some people like them, some people don't. I don't really like them as a page. I'll say they put too much negative shit out. Like, if they put an even amount of positive shit out, then okay, but they always on some negative shit, like. They don't post when I do something good. I mean, I ain't gonna say that. No, I mean, I'll say that, because when they fans see me taking pictures and stuff, they'll post that sometimes, but they choose to post the negative stuff more than the positive stuff. So, mm, I ain't feelin' that page that much, but I ain't down with nobody hustling if that's the way for them to win. Shit, keep going, please don't like? People just too men, so I guess. Do you have any pages that you, like, oh, do you fuck with? Because you was tagging all the pages, including us, and was saying that we don't fuck with y'all, and we're, quote unquote, blackballing y'all. So how are you feelin' about blog pages now? No, I ain't go like, I've been showin' more love now, definitely. Definitely, especially, so I wanna say, I don't wanna say too much, but y'all not the only page that I felt like that before, that's why I let it be known. I felt like everybody was just, like, circling me into not wanting to do anything with me because of certain situations, but I don't know, fuck with this page. You know, I fuck with every single page who posted me. Thank you, but I appreciate it for me, thanks. I feel like, I feel like we're not gonna catch everything that artists do, so I feel like just even just putting that out there, so, you know, when we do catch y'all, I feel like, I feel like you can't expect the page to catch everything we do, unless you send it to them every week, but you're not, so again, like, you know, we catching it as it's, you know, as it's been talked about. Yeah. But so, overall though, you say you fuck with pages, I fuck with pages. Nah, yeah, you just gotta go viral more, man. Go viral, we ain't got no other tweets, gotta post it. Absolutely, I mean, yeah, pretty much. So, you now have a new team. Yeah, definitely. Got rid of your old team. Go on. I am curious to see how did you even get with the old team? I ain't go like, whoa, with the old team? Yes. How I got with them? Yes. Saiky. No. That's the only reason, that's the only reason I was cool at all, for real. I don't know. But like, even when we was doing shit, he wasn't really around, so how did y'all become? Cause Saiky put it in my ear. Like, at the time, he was cool, you feel me? He put it in my ear. I was his manager at the time, he was telling me about, yo, come fuck with this nigga, too. He put it in my ear. And when he stopped fucking with him, it was kinda too late to already back out, you know what I'm saying? Was you conflicted in like, the split? Nah, I was, I had nothing to do with none of that. None of his business. No, I mean like, when you and Sha was still cool before that, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I feel like, was you conflicted in the split? Like, when he was already locked in, so he stole your mans? Was he a conflict? Nah, I wasn't at all. He knew, he knew. Cause he, like I said, he put it in my ear, so, you feel me? He knew. It's not like I got up and said y'all, yeah, it were facts. Okay. Am I leaving the situation now? How do you feel about it? I feel better as an artist. Oh, I feel like open minded, you feel me? I can express myself more. Got a better team. I'm not gonna try to like sit here and throw dirt on them, you feel me? They doing what they doing, whatever, you feel me? I'm just trying to do what I gotta do, you feel me? I don't got no type of, nothing against them, you feel me? Bro, no, you feel me? We had a positive conversation when we, like we cut off, we ended it there. It wasn't like we left on from like no beef shit. Like yo, when I see you, it's lit. Like, I got problems with their artists. I stay artist, you feel me? They growing men, but, feel me? I'm just trying to grow and just do me. I feel like niggas be on that blackboard shit, and I'm just, I'm not with it, bro. On TikTok, people be saying like, they kind of like copy just sounded. What do you have to say for that? I feel like it's just like a, once you get to a certain point, you are influenced, bro. So you're like okay with it, I guess? Yeah, it don't matter. If, if, you know, if, yeah, that's a fact. How do you feel about, do you feel like they copy just it or not? How, yeah. Oh, I don't think it's gonna be enough. How, yeah, I ain't a lot, not all of them, only one specific person, do you feel me? I feel like, yeah, that shit is, that shit cool on me, bro. Niggas ain't paying homage, like if you pay homage, it's different. So what, like, what's the copying? Is it the cadence? Is the flow? Is it the beats? Like what is the copying? That's everything. Like, when I came around- Do you want me to dress like everything? When I came around him, this nigga was a good kid. He was a singer. He didn't do drill. And then after hearing me make songs around Saikae, you feel me? This nigga watching me every stew session, you feel me? So he's low key in his head, trying to figure out how he can do this, bro. And he started doing it, bro. Look how this kid sounds. Bro, people be sending me a shit, talking about, yo, this you black work? Like, what the fuck, bro? This shit crazy. Are you more protective now on how you be creative? I ain't a lot of hell, no. That's what God put me here to do. I'm an influencer. These niggas gonna copy me regardless. I'm switching it up every single day. So, you just gonna have to keep up, bro. If I, feel me? Keep up, bro. Shit. Okay. And then, like, so he basically just saying he gonna keep switching it up. Mm-hmm. But what do you think you do else besides drill? Like, what do you see you transition into next? Are you into the Jersey Club shit or not now, really? Hey, I fuck with the Jersey Club shit, but besides that, I really wanna do something. I really wanna, I don't wanna shift off from drill too much. I wanna keep the beats, but less distant, you feel me? I don't really gotta say niggas' names, make it more mainstream, you feel me? And then stamp it out as like some hip hop shit, you feel me? Like, I don't wanna just leave that genre. Like, I feel like niggas be talking about niggas' names too much. That's what makes it drill. Like, smoking this nigga man, doing this and that. If you just talking regularly, especially in fitness, you opening, using melodies a little bit, you feel me? Make that shit hip hop, nigga? Okay. And I'm like, I feel like people with name jobs, sometimes it be responses, sometimes it be starting. Do you feel like you're done responding? Like, if you hear anything from you over it, or like, it has to be a certain point, or like, come on, we're growing here. It has to be. Yeah, definitely, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, it has to be to a certain point. Like, all the petty stuff and shit, like, I ain't really about to respond to that. But like, I feel like if you taking it there, you might get a response out of me. I'm not dissing everybody, but if I feel like it's worth it, I'll do it. Cause like, right now in New York, I feel like a lot of people that are coming up are kind of like trying to like name job together. I mean, it's a way to do it, but shit. You don't gotta. You don't gotta do it. I don't feel like y'all do it. I got songs without dissing people, like. No, no, you know what I'm saying? Like, the people upcoming, they might try to diss you to get your attention. Like, ignore those people too. The reason I do it is to show them. Like, they copy all the wrong things I do, but when I do something good, they don't wanna copy that. Like, you feel me? I'm doing the good songs to show y'all. Like, you could do this too, brother. Here you go. All right. But I mean, we can't give all the stock to dissing because D&D was a diss and that shit did numbers. But it was a discreet diss. Nobody knew it was a diss until we told y'all. Niggas thought that was D&D on your phone. It was just like obliterated, but me told people that it wasn't. Okay. Did you feel like it was, you wanted to tell people? It feel, you think if you would have kept it discreet, you would have kept going? What do you think? Nah, I feel like the song would have kept going period if we was on, if we was on, like, if we was friends or some shit, yeah, we don't fucking need to tell them, we don't promote the song anymore. He probably does, send me on his end, but. I don't promote the song. So when did the disconnect start happening? Cause I was very confused, am I going on? One day, this guy just woke up and I just seen a live and he was just like ranting about me. And I was mad and confused. I'm like, yo, this guy is crazy. But ever since then I just like figured it out. You know what's cool? I don't, no matter. Shit gon' happen. I'm gonna see him at the top, if you know what I'm saying? I just argued on like two days ago. Were you close to his y'all or D&D or what? Yeah, he's like a goofy guy. He's a goofy guy. He's a jokester. He's funny. And so you like, so you over at this point? Do you feel like y'all could ever make up? No, no, no way. No way, no way. You feel like y'all could talk it out? Mm-mm. I feel like I could never talk to him in person. Like it's too much of him being set out of his mouth. Like he took it, he closed the line so many times and he was like, it's over. So, so, but we will never get a remix to that, okay? Okay. And so, being in the spotlight though, do you feel like you have pressure like in responding to people and kind of like clearing the air? Cause like people like, oh, you fuck with this side, fuck with that side. And I feel like fans kind of make up their own narrative. So how do you go about that? I feel like it's best to just let them keep trying to like figure you out for me. Like I don't really try to like fuck with none of that shit. I just do me, you feel me? People gonna gravitate to me regardless. Like I ain't really trying to do shit for the people at the end of the day. I listen to my fans, I know what they want, but still focus on doing myself. So like, what's your status right now with Sugar Hill though? Are you cool with that more? Yeah, I fuck with it. There's no problems, you feel me? I wouldn't say we the best is the best friends you're getting, you feel me? But it's a high-end bar type shit, you feel me? You ain't even really on that. Niggas just getting money now. Are you like proud of them? I guess they gonna go up with them? Hell yeah, definitely. I'll be speaking to the bros, you feel me? All of them, you feel me? See the little bros go up, D-D, I speak to all the bros. Make sure Niggas is just for me in the right headspace cause same shit I go through, Niggas go through, you feel me? We listen to Niggas, bro, that's what brings us together. Nobody really realized that if it wasn't for us losing together, we wouldn't be like how I was again, you feel me? People see this shit from the outside and just think of Niggas be like dick-balling these niggas when it's real talk, like we be outside together, like the shit is crazy, bro. The reason why we started music and we just try to keep it pushing for bro, everybody know that for me, everybody know that for me. And I guess like some, a lot of artists don't really open up about what they're going through, but on the back end, I feel like artists go through mad stuff with cop stuff, family stuff, just all that in general. So like, I guess now like, how do you decide for like who's your friends and who do you open up to versus who you should not like tell your business to because it might go up. I ain't going to lie, me personally coming from me, I feel like you should just keep it business, you feel me? You don't go out into the world trying to make friends, like if somebody want to be friends with you, that shit going to come about, you feel me? Like it's going to come about through business or some shit like, you feel me? It's going to really happen. Like, I don't really, really wake up and try to say like, oh, I'm trying to go make some friends today, we out to the, to the bar or some shit like nah, like, you feel me? Because he was trolling, he was like, I always had friends, or I got friends. Do you just be trolling the fans? I feel like it's, yeah, it'd be cool to have a hundred friends and shit, but you really always by yourself. So I was just saying, make sure you know yourself before you try to go and figure out 99 other negatives for me. And to you, when your eyes, I guess, what are like three qualities that makes somebody a friend? I ain't got loyalty. You got to always like, you got to always have loyalty. Like three qualities, like I really, I feel like loyalty is the only one for real, bro. You could do anything to me, bro. But if he was always loyal to me, bro, I'm gonna know what's up, bro. Cause without love, like without loyalty, you can't have love, bro. So if you loyal, bro, that's like the root. The tree is gonna go from there, you feel me? You might have made a mistake, but I see you loyal, so you made that mistake, Bob, because you ain't no. You feel me? But it's different, bro. Loyalty for real, that's the only thing, like you need to be loyal. That's most important. Most important. Fuck everything else, bro. Loyalty. So you'll deal with everything else? I'll deal with everything else. You got anger issues, you could be retarded, nigga. If you loyal to me and I could tell, I could feel that shit, bro, you good, bro. Feel me? That's fair. Okay, and then, so, I don't know if you've seen like, basically, you know, Keem's locked up. Everybody think is that you be told or whatever the case may be. But in your eyes, in your eyes, what is the definition of a snitch to you? Cause I feel like people just tossed around that word and nobody really gets into like what it actually means. I ain't gonna lie, that's it. What makes someone an actual, you know what I'm saying? A snitch is just like something, you open your mouth, you spoke about something, like it could be real and it could be verbal. You feel me? There's no say so of what a snitch is. You feel me? Like ma, coming from me, are you coming to contact with the Lord? You shouldn't say nothing at all. Don't say nothing out your word. You don't have to say hi, you don't have to say nothing. Cause they could just speak to your lawyer. You are, that's your, you're right, bro. You got, you have the right to not say nothing. And people that goes over everybody's head, like they don't never hear that part when they say it, but they hear everything else. So it's like you don't have to say nothing. So I feel like once you say something, bro, you're giving them like a reason to do something which leads to something else. And it's just like, that's snitching, bro. You draw snitching, bro. Okay. You're not snitching, you draw snitching. And then people try to like separate, like, oh, if you're a civilian, then you get the pass. Does that come to you or not? I feel like if you're not into anything, then you should be fear for your life. You feel me? You, that's, that's different than being a snitch. Like for real. Like, like, you're still a snitch in my eyes, whatever. But real shit, if you don't got nothing to do with it, then you just like a witness or something, calling the police or whatever. A snitch is something I know. Like you went outside today and you know what you was putting yourself into, and you went out there and just folded, bro. That's a right, bro. That's a snitch, bro. And the streets, bro. That's how I look at it, bro. If you ain't got nothing to do with this, bro, I ain't gonna be mad. I know old lady for calling the police or somebody who just robbed up hers. She a snitch for that? Yeah. That's how much I want people to get into it. Like, nah. So recently, Rummy Mahal went on Breakfast Club and she was like, to her, a snitch is, even if you're a civilian and you're hanging out with criminals and then you still tell, you're still a snitch. I mean, yeah, yeah. Cause now you, once you, yeah, you know you're getting something to do. You're doing that. Yeah, you're doing that. Yeah, definitely. But you were just a civilian living your regular life and some shit just happened to you, then you were a civilian, nigga. So once you put yourself around criminals and if you're a civilian- You should already know what's coming with it. Like, there's no, like, you can't take that back. Like, you put yourself in that situation. Like, you should know, bro. Like, this is what comes with this. If this happens, if this happens, like, it's simple. I feel like just like, just separating it, I feel like you don't do that. You shouldn't be around people that do that. Yeah. And you should always know what the people you around doing. Yeah. Know what your friend is doing. Know what type of job he has. Know how he's getting his money. Like, know your friend, bro. You don't want to be like, oh, shit, I didn't know this guy wasn't. You don't want to be in that situation, bro. And you were an innocent person for real. So if you got friends, really make sure that you're friends, bro. You feel like there was ever any friends that you didn't know, like, they fit or like? Nah, I ain't gonna lie. If I called you my mans, I'll have to know you like your first name, or like, I know your mans. I'd go to your grandma to sign you for me, like word. Okay. And then getting into the music though, for a friend. So like, as all this stuff is coming out, it takes time to, I guess, put in a song. Yeah. Cause I don't know Jumper, you said, before they was talking about Naughty Bop, they was like, cause do we get the same day? Yeah. And I know you didn't make like a Naughty Bop, but you made the song Switching Sides. So like, did you wait for like, you know, stuff to happen before dropping that, and then taking it there? Or like, how do you go about doing that? I kind of just, I waited it out, because I, what I, How does he like what would happen? Yeah, what I noticed is like, yeah, I was just basically trying to wait it out to see what would happen. Cause basically, I was cool with them when that shit happened, you feel me? Like, even when the moment, the day it happened, like, feel me, I was cool with them. I didn't know what their intentions was doing, you feel me? Because they ain't had no beef with them. Then I had heard some shit and then I just cut ties with them at that, because it's like, y'all putting me in a funny situation with, now I gotta choose niggas I don't know were over, like where I was raised and my home base. Like, I just wasn't fucking with that, bro. And I just kind of cut ties with them niggas, bro. Okay. And then like, so in, I guess, because your manager was already, you met 401. Yeah. And that's kind of just how all that happened. Yeah. And then, but didn't you do something like JD or something? Yeah, I did a song with JD. I was just off the string for like, I just hit him up. I just hit him up. He was with it. He was trying to do it. He always, I always fucked with his music, like coming up in a book or something like that. He was one of the niggas I always fucked with. So I just hit him up one day I made that shit happen. We just did it. And really I was cool with Boona. Boona was already cool with him. So like, he kind of just made it happen. It was just like a fuck or let's do it type of thing. I was a Boona. You spoke to him lately? Yeah, he been good. He kind of just staying low key. I've been telling him, he gotta push his music and just keep going. But my son, it's been a kind of like a whole breakdown because we was all rooted by somebody who is now his whole shift of attention is on these kids. You feel me? Like we was there before them. And it's like, we just basically got shelf body naked. So we decided to part ways and I both left. Both of us like, yo, what the fuck are we about to do? Like I ain't know what to do. You feel me? I'm just going along with it, bro. I'm just trying still, bro. In that, did you, like, what did you think was like, you know? I ain't gonna lie, real shit. Sometimes I was like, I ain't even want to tell myself this, but sometimes I'd be thinking like, it'd be over for this shit. Like, at least for me, I hadn't been through so much ups and downs and shit. I didn't, sometimes I'd be stuck and nobody knowing like how to bounce back. But then that's why I say thank you to my supporters and my fan base. Cause like when I look at certain shit, it just makes me want to go harder. So it's like, I can't, they counting on me. So I gotta do this shit, bro. And what do you feel like you missing to take your career to the next level? I ain't go lie to that computer. I have labor. I don't even feel like a labor right now. It's the only thing, bro. Cause didn't you have a dish or a deal or something? I mean, but it was like... It was a small machine, it ain't a big machine. It wasn't really, it wasn't even brought to my, my like fucking attention. Like I didn't even know that. Like, I think it was just doing that shit. This is what I'm saying, like it was fucking nigga's over, bro. I ain't even know that. Oh, I didn't know yet. I'm sorry, I don't know. So... Mm-hmm. Well, so you really never got official label, man? Nah, I never signed, I never been, no, I never signed to no label. Okay. When I was with FR, he partnership through them, through him. So when I was like a whole thing there, every artist that there was basically all to do this and this and that, like, you feel me? I never went into no label and signed, no, nothing like, you feel me? Nah. Okay, so, is there, so moving forward, even getting into deals, do you know what kind of deal you kind of want now? Learning the business, seeing how people are, stuff like that? I ain't gonna lie, to be honest, it's a whole bunch of, it's a whole bunch of deals out there. I'm just, I want the best situation for me. Like for me, I be seeing everybody else doing a little thing, I don't have to worry about that. For me, I just want something that's going better. For me, for me, take my career from where it is now to the next level. Like I'm not trying to be nobody's you for me, all that's just on the label, you feel me? I need the best position for me to just accelerate you, like, you feel me? Do you feel like you were staying in New York or you feel like you want to go somewhere else? Nah, I would move from New York, I ain't gonna lie. I already- Jersey or like far away? Nah, I already moved like, far, like a little far from New York, so I'm going further now, like, going to the West Coast, like, type shit. Cali, you type shit? Yeah, Cali. Who the fuck with Cali? I go to one of the states that nobody's going, even think I'll beat it. Like- Well, like you talking to me, what's that? That ass, some weird shit. They be like, oh, this nigga's there? Nah, that's crazy. So you don't think you'll miss New York, though? I will, but I'll always beat it. You feel me? Flight's in, back and out, you feel me? That shit ain't about nothing, but I ain't trying to lay my head there. That shit. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Do you feel like you would, like, come back to, like, shoot videos and stuff, kind of like how T.J. come in? Definitely, I ain't gonna lie, but that shit tricky, cause it's like, now you gotta protect everything that you worth. You worth a lot after that point, so you gotta protect everything and how we go about it is like, we gotta do it. Regardless, it's not legal to do it, but it's like, shit, what the fuck nigga? We gon' just walk around here with all this shit on, all this shit niggas want, pull up in this type of car and everything. Yeah, I guess. But, I mean, yeah, security, but. But like, nah, you gotta still be safe. You gotta still be safe. But what happened when security not there? As I said, you gotta still be safe. But um, so you definitely know you want that machine behind you. Yeah. Are you talking to labels right now, or? Yeah, probably, yeah. A little bit, one, two. But I'm not. Anything you like yet, or still waiting? Still kinda trying to like, fill it out. I don't wanna make the best decision, like I said for me. I noticed a lot of people make bad decisions when they sign, so. It's about just making the right decision, bro, cause it's, that's where you make a break. As like a artist, you feel me? You could really go left, or you could go right, bro, you feel me? Trying to go up. Um, in the, um, no jumping interview. You said you're one of the pioneers of this shit. Facts. What makes someone a pioneer? And your eyes? I ain't gonna lie, like, I've been here too long. Like, I've been here too long. I've been here, I've been throughout everything. Like, I've seen everything from start to jump. Like, I'm the one of those niggas where you could bring and you can get and tell about shit when drill was just starting. Like, what was this happening? This was here, it was there. Like, I'm one of those only niggas that's here and now everybody is booked. God forbid that, you feel me? Like, but definitely, I feel like I've been here too long. Like, that's what makes you a pioneer. Like, I've been here from the start of it. I watched everything grow, go up. You feel me? I've just been seeing everything. So, I think that, like, for Brooklyn, we kind of got to see who the pioneers was. You know, some of them was here to stay, like, chef sleepy. Yeah. I mean, some would say, some would say not so. I plug in the Bronx, I really want to see, like, who's really going to keep this shit going? Yeah, because it's like so many years to this shit, people are forgetting. Like, they just think about the momentary shit. Like, Dirk made a fucking, he's been his career been so long now, like, look at him, you feel me? He's doing. He keeps had an anniversary. Like, it's been like 10 years now. Like, people forget how long you could really do this shit. So, you definitely treating it more like a marathon and not like a race right now. Yeah, well, it's about who really going to do it in the long run. I think I have that little shit that's happening out of the parties and shit that I enjoy now, you feel me? It's about the long run for real. Okay, and then you definitely plan to stay for the long run. What other sound wise? So, from drill, you're going to try different sounds. What do you do, like R&B? I feel like I would just keep rapping, but it would be over like sofa beats and I would try to melodize a little bit more. You feel me? Try to fuck with them. Just get my melodies a little better. Okay. You wouldn't try singing them. Not throughout the whole song. I got to rap a little bit. I got to rap a little bit. Little bridges, maybe a little one to lose. Maybe. I want to do some Jamaican shit too. Like, I'll open up to doing that. Going to your roots, yes. Video in Jamaica or what? No, definitely. I'll be fire, I ain't gonna lie. Okay. Okay, so moving forward, 2023, what's your plan to do? I ain't gonna lie, just to stay motivated and just to keep going. Because like, last year, I feel like I noticed I was kind of like doubting myself a little bit, you feel me? So I just plan to stay motivated, like regardless. You said it all the time, my man. Last year, I was just like, I don't know, I was slacking and just, I kept getting doubtful. So I just planned this year to stay motivated, like do whatever I go through, you feel me? Ups and downs, if it's bad, I just got to know I got to keep pushing you for me, it's gonna happen. Okay. But like, moving forward though, how do you, so like, being an artist is ups and downs. Yeah. How do you, I guess, stay clear-headed? Does a team help you with that? Or you got people talking to you now? Definitely a team. You definitely gotta, for me, have a team behind you that's gonna help you throughout, so like that. Family always, you feel me? Certain people got friends, good friends they can reach out to, but I would say just use the people you can talk to, you feel me? Somebody always needs somebody to talk to, if it's your girl or whatever, you feel me? Talk to her, you feel me? You just always gotta let that shit out, you feel me? Regardless, you might be drunk, or whatever, let that shit out, bro. That shit gotta come out. Not on the internet to your friend. Yeah, bro. Fuck. But like, even dating, because remember when we was doing D&D, you had a girlfriend, single now, what's the status like? It's complicated, that's all I say, it's complicated right now, fucks. So like, are you skeptical with dating because you're a rapper and you're so popular, and like, you know? Definitely, I feel like people be kind of wanting me for the rapper image, but you just gotta read people out, you gotta see them out, you gotta fill them out, you feel me? See what they really here for, or test them a couple times, you feel me? Real shit, thanks. I do think it'll get into like the posting, cause I know like, Boob and Rella, they made them a thing. I'm like, should I be posting this girl for like a week and never again? That's what I'm saying. It works out like, if you know you locked in with your girl, you're about to get married or something, shit, I ain't posting, you feel me? But if you know this is just a girl you just picked up, you tryna show her off. Don't do that, bro, because somewhere out there with a nigga with more than you are, exactly what she likes in you, 20 times, bro, more. Like you feel me? Like it's just weird, like the way they go about it, and then you put it on the internet, now everybody looking at your girl, bro, they can swipe up, they can go to her grandma, they can DM her like, ooh, baby, hit me up. Like, it's just crazy, you know? So you not having access to your girl, I guess it's how you... Yeah, I feel like you show her, but you show her like discreetly, like, take her on a trip, post her feet or some shit. You feel me? I don't post a face, bro, no, you can let people know you got a girl, but don't let them know who it is. Okay, so do you feel like you're gonna do that? Like if you do, you're gonna not let them know who it is for a long time? Yeah, I ain't a lot. Are you like out the hood? Hell yeah, so I'm like going, probably like gave up drill, like tryna start my own label, let the other niggas do drill. Or would it be like, how long y'all been locked in? Yeah, definitely the matters on that too, like we have to been locked in for a long time because I wanna know like when I post you, like you ain't going nowhere, bro. Y'all young, so like what's a long time? Not a couple months. Not like a couple years, probably like five years minimum. Okay, five years on. Five years on. Five years on. Okay, so, but do you see, but like, do you see yourself like getting married though? I wouldn't say, she gotta sign a prenup, I ain't gonna lie. She gotta sign a prenup. If she willing to sign a prenup, I sign one too, you feel me? I don't want nothing from you. But, you feel me? Is she willing to sign a prenup? Yeah, I'll do it. I feel like she the right one, but if she's not willing to sign a prenup, it's not happening. No way. And I'm gonna make sure the state we do it in is right in my favor. Let's go. Ain't going to no state, get married worse in your favor because I've been doing my research, bro. Well, how the girls be getting money? Yes. And I'm put up with all y'all cheating and all of that. So, yeah. But if you know another cheat, don't marry him. I'm trying to marry him because Zanao, Zanao, don't marry him. You think they already had that plan? Yes. Yes. There's no point of doing that. Like, if you're marrying somebody, if you marry somebody, you should know like, I want to spend the rest of my life with them. Nothing should change that. Like, if you know he's a cheater and you're about to marry him, like him cheating on girl, when y'all marry shouldn't matter because you know what you're doing. You marry this guy. Because niggas act like they done cheating, bro. Yeah, I mean, all right. You know what I mean? So it's like... Niggas is a bro. Black men don't cheat, bro. Black men don't cheat. Black men don't cheat. We all... Like, you never cheated. All right. So black men do cheat. And if he's a cheater, leave him. Basically, that's what I'm saying. I was a boy when I cheated, you know what I mean? I was a boy when I cheated. I was a man now, so I ain't know. No. But now the prenup is... Now, cause I feel like a lot of young people for like, it's not no love I have. Just use your hands, go dig in. So I'd be curious to see like, do y'all really see ourselves like selling down? The more you go through like those type of people, you're gonna start to figure out what you want and what you need, like what you feel if you really need. So when you come across it, you gonna know, bro. Like, you gonna know. There's no if, ands, and buts, like, you gonna feel it. Like, when you come across it, it's gonna be a whole different feeling because you don't run through like 100, 200 girls that you know you don't want already. So you know what you're looking for, like. Yeah. So we're gonna play a game called This Is That. I'm gonna say, two artists, you just pick one that you feel like is better. Music wise, only music. Okay? Or it might be a platform, you say, which one you feel like is better. You could explain why if you want to. All right. Okay, so this is that, Kanye or Jay-Z? Kanye. And why? I don't know, I just like in personality wise, music wise, I feel like Jay-Z sucks as far. I'm sorry. I'm from Brooklyn, I said I was really like, Jay-Z, I like like two songs with Jay-Z, but he was like. Jay-Z is lyrically nice, bro. His features are good, I ain't gonna lie. His features are good, but every song by itself, that's his ass, I'm sorry. That's his whack. That's his whack, that's his whack, bro. But Kanye, you like the, what, the- I like every Kanye song like that. You like him because he's spontaneous. I think everybody like Kanye, he hit them with surprises. Like, yeah, like you don't know what he's coming with, he might hop on, he just hopped on, what he did something with Favi. Like, nobody expected that. Like, that was fire, bro. Like, nobody expected that, that's crazy. But Jay, even the business man he is, how well he's doing, Barclay, Centa, like- I mean, yeah. We ain't about to say he dirty, don't do that, but like, you know? Yeah, but I- I was talking about music wise, don't be. Yeah, music wise, I don't- Kanye is better. Yeah, I don't- We're not gonna say Jay is dirty, we're gonna say he, he work hard yet. Yeah, all right. Okay, Lil Wayne or Drake? Lil Wayne. Okay. Definitely because like, the way I like music, I don't know, Drake is more slow tempo, you feel me? He's like, for the girls and you know, soft music, light-skinned people, you feel me? Lil Wayne come fast, like, because he, the cadence, he's like, that's where I'm learning from, like, the speed of his rapping, like, she inspired me, bro. Like, I should fire, bro. All right, Pharrell or Timbaland? Timbaland. Okay. Can't go wrong with the Timbs? Come on, we from New York. Everybody love Tim. Oh, I'm talking about the producers. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You know Pharrell? Yeah, Pharrell Williams, the one that make the human races. He got the sneaker, right? Yeah, he got the sneaker, but he also a producer. I never heard none of his, none of his- Yes, you did. Who? Oh my God. What's his shit? What's his- What? He produced, like, he got Fergie and, like, man people. I didn't know, though. I never knew, though. I never knew, bro. Y'all need music education. I never knew, I ain't gonna lie. I never knew. Music education for y'all youngins, bro. I never knew he was a big maker. That's crazy, bro. Sheesh. All right, Chicago drill, New York drill. New York drill. I'm XX or Juice World? Damn, that's hard as fuck. Juice World. I just, like, the way I started doing music, and I always, like, see, like, videos about Juice World Freestyle and shit, like, that nigga was crazy talented at doing that shit. Like, he would just sit there and just go on and on about that shit. Oh, it's fire. Kenzo B or Kenzo Bola? Music-wise. Kenzo Bola. For sure. Okay. I'm gonna lie about that. Is this there or Summer Walker? Summer Walker. D-Dang or U.S.G.s? U.S.G.s. Shai-Ken or B-Love? B-Love. Backwards or Dutches? Damn, that's hard, too. Backwards though? I like backwards. I like backwards. Ice Spice or Lotto? Ice Spice. No Jumper or Academics? No Jumper. Sure. Oh, you're just saying that. Yeah, Academics. I ain't gonna lie. Academics be doing some weird shit. No comment. Swayzy or Please Don't Lie? Swayzy. Yeah, I like how Swayzy discreet with it. To me and let nobody know who... Please Don't Lie is discreet, too, but I kinda figured them out already. Blockwork this year or Lassie? This year, for sure. This year, for sure? Definitely. All right, so tell people where to find you, where to find me. I can find me, I'm on every platform, where they had my Instagram, block underscore work 58. I can find me everywhere with it, man. Y'all saw.