 Hi everyone, so I recently filmed a response video to an article that was written about the expose at CJ Byford & Sons. The article was heavily biased towards the industry's response. So I suggested that I post a whole phone conversation with the media so people can get a good idea about what is said to the media compared to what they report. And because this matter is now in the public's interest, I thought I would go ahead with posting that whole conversation so you can hear it now. There were some production issues so don't mind the blurs and some of the cuts were cutting out some of the discussion between me and the camera person but for the most part, everything that I said to the media is here. I just wanted to have a chat about your slaughterhouse video if that's okay. Yeah of course no problems. Okay so I just want to get straight into it then obviously I spoke to reps from the slaughterhouse and they said you infiltrated their site illegally and I've pointed to your criminal record that you should be trusted so what's your response to that and could you clear up your record for me? Well investigators have left cameras in their facility. I don't think anything illegal has taken place. What is more profound is actually what's on the footage and that's what she's trying to actually avoid. So she's doing a diversion tactic. She's pointing to my criminal history which has got nothing to do with her son abusing animals. He clearly was frustrated with the cow, grabbed the cow by the nose, pulled the cow's head down, swore at the cow and bolted them in the head and then said how does that feel? The cow was clearly not stunned correctly actually so you could see the cow flailing around when he was putting the knife in the cow's neck. Tell me about the whole process of creating the video like how you found out about the slaughterhouse when you decided to get the footage all that stuff? So I was tipped off by investigators about this place and we were hoping to find dairy cows being slaughtered and it turned out they were they were local beef cattle. A lot of people think that because a slaughterhouse is local and only slaughter's local animals that it's somehow different to what what happens in other slaughterhouses. Just trying to dispel that myth. The animals in the footage were distressed, were bellowing out, they were clearly trying to escape the knockbox. One of them ripped their horns off in the process, they were so terrified. She gave the impression to me that everything was all super humane and nice and kind in there and the animals had no idea. One thing she did say to a concerned consumer who'd emailed her and I've made another video about this is that the footage was fake and doctored. So I'd like to know which one is it? Is the footage fake and doctored or is it because I'm a criminal? What is her excuse? You know what I mean? These seem like ridiculous diversion tactics. I have a criminal history that I haven't reoffended for nearly 10 years. I've been sober and vegan and now I fight for animals. What has that got to do with her son currently committing acts of horror to animals in her slaughterhouse? It's just it's absolutely absurd and ridiculous. So the footage doesn't lie actually. We have been emailed by the FSA. They would like to see the footage. I can send it raw unedited with all the faces unblurred. The only reason their faces are blurred is because of YouTube's privacy policy. Otherwise I would release images of them. I don't think this is a matter of public interest actually. She's gaslighting the public because I told her I was media. She lied to me. She said well there's a vet there. Well yes there was a vet there and yes they are recording potentially with CCTV in there but things were still happening on the footage. She told us it was all fine and dandy and it's one of the most horrible scenes you could imagine and no one would expect that happening in a family run grandma owned local slaughterhouse. But what we're trying to show is that it doesn't matter. If it's a slaughterhouse it's a slaughterhouse. The animals go in against their will and come out chopped up into pieces. Why do people think that the animals submit willingly to this? It's just even if the animal was done correctly there was one that was that animal bellowed out in fear beforehand. They could clearly see other animals being chopped up. The slaughterhouse owner lied to me and told me that they couldn't see that other animals being chopped up but they could. But my position is that we shouldn't be doing this to them at all because they don't even adhere to their own standard of what they say is humane actually. The story they tell the public is that it's all they do it in this humane way. I don't think there is a humane way to kill someone actually. I think that the very act of robbing these animals existence from them once they are alive and conscious to kill them for a steak or a sandwich or a burger is not justified I don't think. I think that that that can never be humane. The only humane slaughter is that is when it is in the beings best interest not to live because of their suffering is so bad that to continue living is is just too horrible for them and there's no way of saving them. That is the only time you can compassionately take someone's life for a burger sandwich or for monetary gain like you have to also remember that that slaughterhouse is not doing it for altruistic reasons they're doing that to make money so of course they're going to have they have a vested interest in killing those animals so of course they're going to tell and that that's a that is their business so they're going to defend their business they're going to try to like already making character attacks at me the investigative journalist okay which has nothing to do with what's going on in her facility it's because she's defending her business and her way of life and trying to save face but we don't have a vested interest in exposing what happens to these animals we we have the the animals interest at heart we don't want them to be killed at all we don't want to eat them we want them to be respected and that's it. Yeah I totally get where you're coming from in terms of all this so just the final thing that I wanted to ask Joey is do you have any pictures or photos of the slaughterhouse that you can send me um or do you have like could I take like stills from the video or something that I can use for this? You have my complete permission to use anything that is public access of mine okay great that's great um so honestly Joey this was a pretty quick chat that's all I needed from you I just needed to clear some things up so that was great thank you thank you no worries I appreciate it um I hope to I'll publish your article when it's published I look forward to seeing an unbiased article when both sides been represented and if she has tried to use my criminal history as an excuse for her son's behavior that would be quite interesting to read actually because if she thinks that that somehow justifies her son's behavior the behavior of someone else 10 years ago um then that's just absolutely ridiculous you know so everyone can get away with anything now so because of the way I acted back then when I was a young stupid idiot that that justifies what you were doing currently you know I mean okay and just to be fair um and to be clear it's um the statement that I got was from the representatives of the slaughterhouse not yeah not the slaughterhouse themselves so uh so it wasn't the the grandma who owned the slaughterhouse who said that no no I didn't I didn't actually talk to her I called them twice on both their numbers okay I got called back from like the association of meat suppliers so yeah the same woman's from them okay and and the association who supply the meat and so it's not it's it's representatives of um uh let me just find their name for you one second it's own yeah because I wouldn't want to like hammer her for something that she didn't say I would like to keep it accurate so yeah yeah that's what I mean uh so I got the statement from the association of independent meat suppliers which these slaughterhouses and members as a part of so they're speaking on behalf of them if you get what I mean I got you sir the association I'll be very clear then um about that particular statement but the uh do have a screenshot of the um the slaughterhouse owner telling um a concerned consumer that the footage is doctored and vegan propaganda um okay and that is in the video entitled uh just just for your information like what she's been if if I thought that that was quite interesting that she I do have the original screenshots as well from uh it was a meat eater actually who the video is entitled she actually responded you won't believe what she said on my channel and um it was a meat eater who was just shocked about at what they saw who was saying uh you know um just basically criticizing what they saw and then she responded by saying for your information I regret that you will accept a doctored fake video and the vitriol vegan propaganda um and then she basically went on to say that the fsa qualified vets there and that we have 24 out 47 sealed recording the fsa have contacted me so I'm sending the complete unblurred footage to the fsa to analyze and we'll see if they think it's doctored okay I've been in touch with the fsa as well to be honest so I'm just waiting on the statement from them as well okay I'm glad you're writing about this it's interesting not many people have uh picked this up it's uh but maybe in in due course but the you know the petition has 67 000 signatures have you seen that yeah I talked to the I talked to the woman who created the petition as well so yeah all right no worries good talking to you yeah you too Joe thank you thank you for this no problems all right see you later bye bye so that was interesting um the so the the association of independent meat suppliers have said that uh I illegally obtained the footage and I have a criminal history so that therefore justifies everything that happens in slaughter houses from this point onwards any type of animal cruelty that happens um because I have a criminal history it's justified now how absolutely ridiculous but the journalists seem nice um maybe I'll make a response to their article when it comes out so we'll wait and see