 All right, why we have a forum, why don't we start? I'll turn to Al Tossi to do the introductions of our guests, right? Okay, tonight we're hearing from Minuteman. And the three people before you, Sarah Moczakiew, who's the Barlington representative of the Minuteman School Committee. Kevin Mahoney is the acting superintendent of schools. Give us a presentation. And Nikki, I can't remember your last name. That's it, Andrew. Okay. So, Kevin, who do you want to start? Sure, great. Thank you. Is there any? Unfortunately, there's not, but I will gladly click through for you. Oh, okay, great. That's funny. Well, thank you. Thank you very much for having us here. As we begin on slide two, you can see as we prepare our budget, we do try and keep in mind where our budget priorities are and how they reflect our values and adequate, providing the necessary resources for our students and staff to be successful. We also like to go over what some of the accomplishments of some of the Allington students that are here at Manusia on slide three, those accomplishments. Nikki, why don't you run through for those? Yeah, so we're happy to report class of 2023 valedictorian, Alex Hazelbush. He was in our engineering program and took me a wonderful highlight for Allington. In graduation, 22 graduates went on to two or four year colleges. Three have apprenticeships in the field and one heading into the military. Currently, 215 students in all of Minuteman's major programs and 27 students out on co-op, 25 seniors and two juniors. And athletic achievements, running through soccer, volleyball and basketball. As well as the skilled USA national champions, the brothers Dean Gavin and John O'Brien last year, which is certainly a great accomplishment, very proud. Before we proceed, should we continue through the entire presentation and then answer questions or do people wanna ask questions while we move along? Why don't you pause where we're just a good place and then we'll ask questions, let people ask questions and then you can continue on. That sounds fine. Thank you very much. Let's move on to slide four, please. What you'll see is a breakdown of the assessment for Allington. The required minimum contribution is determined by the state, primarily driven by chapter 70 formula and enrollment and the transportation assessment, the assessment over the minimum required contribution in our debt and capital assessment for a subtotal of 6,732,038. The building project debt service at a million 830,191, which was exempt from about two and a half through a debt exclusion vote of the community. For total assessment of 8,562,229 dollars, which is a reduction from FY 24 of 370,687. Just go over the next few slides. You'll see on slide five that our overall operating and capital budget that the school committee voted was 31,517,219 dollars, which is 3.96% above the current year FY 24. And that breaks down on slide six through our operating recommendation, which is slightly less than 3% at 24,160,849. The capital recommendation of a million 660,508 is up considerably, primarily due to one item that we'll be talking about as we go through the presentation and the debt recommendation of just under 5.7 is about 1.36%. We expect as we move forward now that that service just kicked in on all of our bond issues and their level payments each year that you'll see that kind of stabilize going forward. On slide seven, you'll see our total assessments to member towns is 25,689,923 dollars. It's a 0.82% increase over assessments in fiscal 24. That is not a norm. That's a little bit of anomaly. We'll talk to that because we don't want that to be perceived as a trend. I think we need to make sure that we're clear on what's going on with that. So we'll talk to that a little bit. We just wanna get into what's going on with the minute me in budget. So on slide eight, we'll talk about some of the drivers. Our collective bargaining agreement was 3.5% plus steps and lanes for FY 25. We did reduce a couple of administrative positions that were budgeted in FY 24. There were some three positions that were in the district budget but then when COVID hit, we reduced those positions but we brought them back from grants and now that those grants are stopped to go away there is still the need for the position. So we are bringing back into the district budget a library aid, a health tech aid and a co-op coordinator. We're seeing considerable interest in the co-op opportunities for students and they are taking advantage of that. We're very, very pleased at seeing that trend. We did have to add back a foreign language teacher. We had one who we tied last year who taught both Spanish and French. You don't find folks like that that often. So we did have a need to bring back a foreign language teacher even though we thought we could go without. And we also brought on an athletic trainer to meet our obligations under the state MIA regulations as well as to support our student athletes and we are seeing again, similar to co-op of quite a bit of activity and interest without a student body participating in sports. We're really pleased about that and seeing more engagement from our students. As we go on to the next slide, we took some of our non-soury items. Well, transportation, our bus transportation contract is up 5% based upon the CPI pursuant to the contract. And we are recommending an additional day for a late bus. We currently have two late buses which allows students to participate in homework, extra help homework club activities as well as the club activities, whatever they may be. And we're finding given the increase enrollment that students have more of an interest in being around the campus and participating in more clubs. But if they participate in more clubs and they have to do after school help it's just simply not enough time. So we're trying to accommodate that again, more student engagement on campus and taking advantage of some of the opportunities that we provide. Utilities decrease, that's based on actual usage in FY23. We level fund that our health insurance because in FY24, we anticipated somewhere around a 10% increase that never materialized and ended up being a zero increase. So if we simply level fund it, it should accommodate FY25 adequately. We are making an investment in cybersecurity. One of the things that I was concerned about coming in was the reliability and resiliency of our technology infrastructure. It's one of those things that keeps me up at night. And we really wanted to make a commitment to trying to do whatever we can to tighten our cybersecurity program. So our IT director had taken advantage of a study that gave us some insight as to some of the things we need to look at. And we're moving forward with a comprehensive cybersecurity program. It's about $120,000 in this year. It's budget. Moving on to slide number, oops, slide number 10. We have funding of OPEB. We have, in our debt service, we've provided our athletic fields. We have a bond issue of about $1.9 million. When we proposed the athletic fields a few years back, that was as a result of some savings that we realized from the school building project, but the savings wasn't enough to complete the athletic fields. We had to go back to the member towns for barring authorization of $1.9 million. At the time we proposed that plan, we had projections on how to, by renting the fields that the revenue that was generated, we go into a revolving account and we'd be able to offset the debt service associated with those fields. Year one, we did not budget that because at the time the debt service was issued and we were putting the budget together, the fields were not online yet. So we did have a real true idea of what the revenue would be. However, now that they're fully rented and we've been taken advantage of that, we'll be able to now offset the debt service associated with that bond. On our capital stabilization account, I mentioned earlier, you saw a jump in what's causing the capital line, the jump go up so substantially. And that's because over the last number of years, we've been putting aside $500,000. So it's our capital stabilization account this year. This budget funds it an additional 350. So the total of 850,000 is what's being proposed in this budget. That'll bring our capital stabilization fund up to just about $3 million. This will put us in a position to be able to maintain and pursue potential uses of the campus in terms of partnerships or any type of renovations we need to do. And have that funding in place to mitigate future assessment increases to member towns. So it's just sort of an ongoing long-term planning effort that we've been trying to make. And we'll talk to that a little bit as we go forward. So on our next slide, I'll ask Nicky to take us through the next few slides. If you wanna pause for questions. Good point. Yeah, what's your status of the OPEB now? How well funded are you? Yeah, so our OPEB currently is around 23 million. With our contribution this year, we will be at 5% funding. We put together an OPEB study committee in 2021, the school committee did. And the plan for the OPEB increased funding will happen next year when our ESCO lease comes off the books. ESCO lease is essentially a stranded asset, an energy-saving lease on the old building that we're still paying for, all of the 16 previous member towns. So as that comes off in FY26, we will increase our OPEB contribution $300,000 one time. And then each year we plan to increase it 5%. So we're 23 million liability? 23 million. Okay, at the end of next year, you will have funded 5% of that. Correct. Thank you. Okay, so you were gonna explain why the capital recommendation is up 34%. Yes, it's that increase in the 350,000. It is primarily driving that. And I'm gonna talk a little bit about that later on the presentation specifically how that's being earmarked. Yes, can we miss it? Sure. Madam Holly, I heard last year, I think that the fields were outsourced or leased out to a third party. Is that true? Well, we do rent the fields, but it's being leased out by minimums. We control all of those rental bookings. We are considering engaged in a negotiation with Leslie University about participating in a partnership where in exchange for our allocated field time, field and gym time, they would invest in building a grandstands, a field house, concession stands, six tennis courts. It's approximately about a $15 million project and that would be a 20-year lease, which is a 10-year lease with two five-year options. And under that agreement, they would have used its earmarked for Leslie University practices and NCAA games. But right now Leslie is one of our major tenants that's renting the fields. Kevin, we were talking about that partnership with Leslie a year, a year and a half ago. Is that a reality? Yeah, we had a meeting, in fact this morning about some of the terms that we've already awarded the contract and we authorized them to do a site feasibility study. They're very interested in this and we're hoping to be able to have it wrapped up by June as far as the license agreement goes. Okay. One of that subject, does that mean that they will be given priority over any other third parties that want to use the fields but the student use, minimum student use is still not reduced, but put it that way. No, it's still the minimum and athletic facility and minimum will have first use of it. Minimum will have priority use just like at theater or any other facility that we rent. Leslie will have time that will be committed each year that they can use for their events and then whatever times remaining will be rented. We do have other renters that use the facilities and we need to make sure that we're generating revenue from in that revolving account so that we can continue to support a capital replacement program for the fields as well as the debt service commitment that we've made to our member town. Thank you. Correct. Yes, thank you. Same sort of one. So it's gonna be less revenue anticipated if you went to this agreement with Leslie? Yes. And essentially it's sort of a trade off, isn't it? You're getting less revenue but you're getting investment capital for Leslie. Correct. The reduction in revenue is probably considered in the fund that you have to establish the revolving fund because it will decrease. That's correct. We would expect that the revenue that we would generate without Leslie's revenue would be able to support pretty much on a breakeven basis that that service capital replacement for that as well as in the theater. Sure. Thanks. One more. Are these capital improvements to the field that you've learned to Leslie? Are they linked into the stabilization fund for the capital? No, that's a separate issue that I'll talk to in a little bit, yeah. And if Leslie doesn't enter this agreement, would that get pulled into it? It may change our priorities. As I said, I'm hopeful that we'll have an agreement in place by June. It sounds like it's a good probability it'll happen, I understand. And if we have to pivot, then we'll have to pivot but it's a $15 million investment on Leslie's part. That would be rather substantial for me and to move forward on and I'm not sure there's the appetite among the member towns to make that commitment for that purpose. That's why we think this partnership would work ideally for both parties. And you think it's a good chance of it going through. We're very optimistic, I'll say. Thank you. Yes, Sam, how did you manage to now increase in health insurance? We are part of the Mass Bay Health Trust Fund. Currently, I am sitting on the board and we have a considerable amount of reserves due to low experience claims. Claims, thank you though, claims. So, due to that, for the past two years, they've done a zero percent increase in the health insurance. This health trust is with four other regional schools. Yeah, all the schools. Is the 166 enrollment, is that pretty much capacity that full house? The six, where are we at? 686 right now, that is an excessive capacity. The school is built for about 628 students. That was the design plan. Now that we've been living in the building a few years and see what it can and can't do, it's probably somewhere in the area of 686. So even though we're at 686, we had to scramble this past summer to be perfectly honest, we didn't create space and find that we had some, it's primarily the classroom, drop space with the exception of the Animal Science program, all the other shops are fine, it's the classroom space. And so last fall, the school committee took a, listened to some of the issues we had regarding the facilities and the capacity and decided that we would fold our enrollment to 175 each year for freshmen. That doesn't necessarily add up to 660, but our historical trends will show that then usually it dropped off from freshmen to senior year and that would get us somewhere we would expect it to take within the 660 students. Thank you. Well, we're on the topic of enrollment and that's where we stop. So why you take it from there, right? So major factor impacting the budget is the overall enrollment. So with the plans of the new school building, you know, came plans to increase member town enrollment and that is while we're seeing the red line shows the increase in member town enrollment. The green line shows the decrease in non-member town enrollment. That is mostly the students that had come in, their freshmen and sophomore year, particularly out of the school, right? So these are the juniors and seniors still finishing up their program. The last two freshmen classes we've seen fully member town students. You can go to the next allies. Oh, sorry. Yep. Oh, this is just a curiosity. Where did Belmont and Watertown kids go? I mean, they were two of the bigger senders before the project. I'm just sort of curious where they went. That is a great question. I don't know the answer to that question. We continue to get applications. This past year we didn't accept any, whether we do this year or not, we're in our cycle now where we issued our acceptance letters out. But we shall see if there's room for out of district students and if they're from those communities, if they may be able to have an opportunity to attend, but I don't know where they're currently going right now. Thank you. And so to that question, how are our students doing on this cycle? Will we have to admit everyone or anything on the waitlist? What's going on? Yep. We have two more slides coming up that I'll explain. So our next is enrollment by town. And you'll see our LinkedIn's data for each of the classes broken out. So the class of 2027, 45 students, 2026, 61 students, 2025, 60 students, and 2024, 49 students. And that totals up to the 215 Arlington students. The next slide will show the incoming freshman class of 2028. So the slot allocation for Arlington was 40 students. And as of March 1st, 65 students from Arlington applied. They were all offered admission. And as of today, 46 accepted and 19 declined. We did get some data as to why students were declining. The majority of that data was, they didn't want to leave their friends. So they didn't want to leave their friends. They wanted to stay at Arlington High School. There were some other small two or three students that said athletic competition, academic, arts and music, social, emotional. So, you know, a small amount of data, but majority was due to the, they didn't want to leave their friend. So this data too shows which of the top choice program Arlington students were most interested in for the 65 incoming freshmen. And just to, you know, kind of give you a background. These are their preliminary choices. And they're not binding for the student. Each student will spend the first half of their year in exploratory checking out all of the 19 major programs. And then they'll pick their top five, where they will spend two weeks in each of the top five programs and just explore more in depth as to what that program is. And they'll make their final choice. They're top three at the end of the second quarter. So it's certainly not binding, but some of the data that, you know, was requested. We wanted to provide back to you. Yeah. This is a curiosity question. I noticed carpentry plumbing, electrical. What about masonry and tile? I've often wondered why we don't, we don't know enough of that. I know, but I'm just curious as to why. Yeah, maybe the demand when we took a look at it, wasn't there maybe we couldn't accommodate it within the building at the time. But we haven't looked at that quite a while. Okay. Just because I think about putting a house together. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of trends are you seeing in terms of, which are these programs are increasing the popularity, decreasing. One of the ones that's really become very popular is the animal science program. That seems to generate a considerable amount of interest. We also see our multimedia engineering program, which is kind of like a radio TV theater type of a program that that's also generating a lot of interest. And then, you know, we always, our core shops will be, will always do well electrical carpentry plumbing. But then you have some of the, the biotech and environmental science. We also get a pretty good drawer app as well. So it kind of, it's kind of a mix, but the one I would say right now that generates the most interest, you know, Okay. Um, that's good to new people. Some of you are, maybe they'll be charming, but I guess. I think I'd be remiss, might be a good point to mention it, which is, um, you know, this finance community, I feel like it would be the old person who's this for the next 25 years. But, uh, this finance committee, like, fought really hard for a long time to get a new regional agreement in place, sort out the members who didn't want to be there, get the school rebuilt and get it to where it is. Now, okay. Um, and I think I have a good sense of this committee and town meeting and the select board and the school committee, want to, our school committee, not do when I say, we just don't get a damn about non-member towns. Like we paid for the building. Okay. We pay a third of the cost and I don't care. I really, I don't say it every year. I don't care if these kids, the towns who decided to leave the district don't have a choice. Like that was their elected officials decision to walk away. Right. And I'm, I'm going to be just as better in 20 years. I was six years ago sitting in some of these stupid senior centers trying to convince them not to leave. Right. But like this is, and I just hope that we both this year and into the future continue with these policies. That until all the member kids are allowed in, no one else is allowed in. Like if we, if they're not allowed, if we get to the point where we have vacancies and didn't fill up our things and we can then look for some non-member, that's fine. But this, that, you know, because we had to select a few years ago with this, right? Um, which is probably still why some of the juniors are still in there. I think that remains the position of Ireland. Like our town, like we built the building, we pay for the building. We want to be there with our kids first. And that's the way we do it. I know. I'm going to say it every year. Got it. So I can remain. So there's no misunderstanding any here how this works. Okay. Good. I just want to make sure I wasn't communicating something. I only got like 20 more years to say that. Right. And in total, we are happy to report of, um, you know, the 175 spot allocation as of today, we did accept 175. Um, member town students. Um, so we are anticipating a full. Uh, member town freshman class. Over. Yeah. It's my big time. Yes. I'm curious. And most of the, most of the time in 2023, I guess, went on to college. From all. Yeah. And I can certainly see someone say in culinary, going to Johnson and Wales. That's the Russian I could see probably animal science going to. Some sort of veterinary program, but some of these, you know, traditional voc you're usually thinking they're going to. You know, maybe trade, you know, trades or practice shifts or something like that. So what do people end up like me? What is the path like? Because obviously a lot of people are doing it. These various colleges. Uh, What does that work? Well, as we try to articulate in one of the earliest slides that, um, students have the choice. That's the value of what we provide. And, um, a lot of these students that did go on to, um, to college stayed within their program. I mean, it's what we chose students is the opportunities we, we, we illustrated on it's called a career tree, if you will. And each shop is a tree. And it's a, it's a visual that would suggest the trunk of the tree is the high school education. And then if you get out and graduate, you go right into the field. It'll be these opportunities for you. If you go right to the trade, you go up a little more on the tree. That's maybe you go on for a two year education. And these occupations will be available for you. You go a little higher on the tree for years, these occupations. So in each and every shop. There will be those. Jobs listed at each level of the tree. So students can kind of say, okay, maybe I'll go to a two year schooling. And maybe I'll be a service manager at a dealership rather than the technicians. That type of an example. Each shop has those so students can look at it and kind of visualize where they'd like to go. I'd be interested to see. Yeah. We can get that for you. Yeah. It makes that makes sense to me. When students come in. Yeah. So I'll add just one color commentary since my son actually graduated from a minute man last spring. Is that the students are also doing research to understand. What the. You know, the, their. Their risk. We're seeing the cost of living and what kind of salary they may make at different places in the tree branches. Which you will. And what's really interesting is that when it comes to. Electric and construction. There were a lot of young women. That graduated last spring. And when they were interviewed, this is the, the senior dance. Step and repeat video that was on YouTube. The young women in electrical when they were asked, what are they going to do next? They said, well, I'm going to continue my apprenticeship. And then one day I'm going to run my own business. And it was so refreshing to see the diversity. That's going into some of these industries that are traditionally men. And these women that feel empowered to run their own business. If we're happy to get you the train, we'll figure out how to get it to Al to share with the group. Michael. I remember looking at the numbers for this alone. It gets graduated from the, what we call the traditional shops. You know, tools and materials, construction, things like that. They do continue their education. It's, it's not matriculating at another institution. It's, it's gaining the on the job experience to go from. To go from journeyman to license, to general, to master. Oftentimes in the family business. And the ones that take on more or formal. Classroom education after that, oftentimes are in business or, or accounting to. Run that. Run that business that they have now, you know, grown into that. And after 20 years, they take over. You see this a lot in, in quite a few of the trades. It's nothing prouder than. Then seeing somebody's truck repainted and son. And or. I think we can move on to the next slide. So this was a question that I was asked about the withdrawals and transfers. So we wanted to share with you the number of withdrawals. From the number of withdrawals. From the number of withdrawals. From the number of withdrawals. So we wanted to share with you the number of withdrawals. From Arlington. From each class of. You know, you will see there is, you know, a bit of a uptake in the class of 2022, 2023, 2024. You know, some of that data is, is due to COVID. Some of the data that we're seeing now in particular is due to the new Arlington high school being built. And the level of, you know, athletic competition has been mentioned a few times. Interestingly enough, along with, you know, wanting to stay with their friends. But it is pretty rare that we see transfers after October 1. So that's the number that you'll see in our budget book. I think we went past. And in Doug back about 10 years or so, and there had only been maybe five transfers after October 1. Typically withdrawals and transfers for the higher grades, grades 10 through 12 are very uncommon. They've kind of already started in their program. Those transfers you'll typically see someone coming from another school or tech school that's, that's moved into the area. But typically they'll have to see if there's room in the shops. If that's the case, if someone was interested. Oh, sorry. Yes. Thank you. Thanks very much for including if I had to ask this question. Yeah. I just want to make sure I'm understanding it correctly. So the question that I had asked, I was particularly concerned about transfers that happened during the school year, not the summer. So this table, are those kids who transferred during the school here or is that also the summer? No, yeah, this, you know, so even from the data, you know, that I, we've just reported. So the, the freshman class this year, there was 79 applicants and 45 came to the school. So we'll certainly track that data better. But as far as after October 1st, so, you know, the start of the school year that gives, that gives about a month. We don't, we typically don't see any transfers or withdraws after October 1st. There may be a smaller amount from, you know, September to October as they're, you know, first getting into school, but we haven't necessarily tracked that data. But this is the data from applications and then. So this includes the summer. So you really don't know what it is starting the school year. You know, it could be a, it could be a variety of reasons, kind of that we've discussed, you know, them wanting to be back with their friends, academics, maybe the shops weren't the right ones for them. But because we don't see many past October 1, you know, five, five total over a number of years, it's pretty, pretty limited. What we see overall is in the freshman class, total class, about 5% withdraw during the course of the year, just because it's not the right fit for the student. Then as you get into your upper class, groups, if you see students withdrawing, it's primarily due to maybe family moving or something along those lines. You don't, once a student is in their shop and they like what they're doing, we don't see a lot of students leaving. In fact, sometimes if families move, they'll try and make a combination to arrange housing for the student in the district so that the student can finish it in a minute and that can be complicated. So it doesn't sound like you quite have the data that I'm looking for, but maybe we could follow up because the idea that five-ish kids come back over the last 10 years doesn't fit with kids that I know move back. So maybe we could follow up and talk about the kids who are moving during the school year. Thank you. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm not quite, this is not quite good for me. What are the numbers on the red? When you say, because you have post-October 1st and draws the transfers and you say that follows that 5% will draw, but then you say you rarely see transfers after you started school. So I mean, are these students that were admitted but elected not to come or just not quite sure what... These spans throughout the four years as well. So for the class of 2022, right, 34 total, 25 returned to Arlington. That could have been their freshman software. That was all for years. So 25 returned, eight had moved. And then there were some smaller buckets. Although you're saying probably most of the ones that move are moving, so that can happen in time. So it's pretty rare for someone to leave after their freshman year. So one would think that maybe a good chunk of that. They returned to AHS a good chunk of that, one of five was probably where we were sent. So they come into it, they do it. Yep. And then if they leave, I guess after October 1, what happens with the money for the students at that point? They go back to AHS, like does the money come with them? Or is it just rolled into the next budget for the next year? That's how it would lag. In other words, October 1 is when the state... That's where they want the enrollment. Yes. So if that student hadn't left, they wouldn't be on the next year. Right. They wouldn't be continuing. But then they, in some sense, you'd have the money for the year, but they would go back to AHS and they'd have the services. So, yeah. So it's good that these times are going down. Which is not against the price of the high school area. Yeah. So I would also be interested in seeing the post-October 1st numbers that I've lost or heard, or know people who've come back. So just share the numbers. I have actually the reverse question. So if a student wanted to go to an event after the freshman year, maybe because they moved into the district, or knew for other reasons, are there thoughts about a little starting of sophomore year, or is it just if you don't get their freshman year, that doesn't work? You can be considered for 10th grade. Okay. But not being on that, because you won't have enough hours to meet your program credentials. And that's all based on space. Okay. So if you have space, it's year by year changes each year. Right. We were looking at transfers just recently, and it doesn't look like, maybe we probably have about 10 or 12 in-district applications to transfer in. Why not to go back as a freshman to get in? But we would probably, if any, maybe three. Okay. But it's given what we get going on with the current freshman class. It's unlikely. Okay. Thank you. We'll move on to the next slide. There was a question on the state metric data as well. So we got some information from our data analytics coordinator. And it was in relation to the grade nine course passing appearing low. So there was a reported failure rate in the ELA because of an error in the coding for a certain elective. So this has been confirmed with DESI. It was corrected. It will not be reposted on the website that the link is below, but only nine of those freshmen students had failed. So the total pass rate is 94.5%, which is consistent with the pass rates for history, math, science, and other elective courses being between, you know, 90s, 97, 98. We were aware of that problem. We had an issue. So I think we can go to the next slide. So, you know, so as we talked about as an enrollment shifting in advance out of district revenue is decreasing, which, you know, was expected. So as member towns enrollment increases, you'll soon see the overall assessments being shifted to the member towns. And on the next slide, you'll see our estimated financial forecast for this. So as the students matriculate each grade, you'll see that the tuition and the incremental special education fee that comes with the out of district students being at Minuteman. For FY 25, we have an $818,000 offset. We're anticipating an FY 26, 373,000, and FY 27, 53,000. So you'll see that there is quite a big decrease expected in the upcoming years. And with our out of district capital fee, estimated offset this year for the FY 25 budget of 277,000, and then a decrease in FY 26, 210,000, and FY 27 to 14,000. So within the next two fiscal years, 26 and 27, we wanted to be ahead of the game notifying you that as the member town, the non-member town students matriculate out the revenue that's associated with them will also decrease. And... Are the percentage of kids on IEPs still in the 40% plus range? 40%. Yes. So this is the preliminary assessments for each of the member towns in total 0.82% increase for preliminary assessments. The two columns to the right are four-year rolling average, which is our main driver in our budget, in our operating budget, and that is 12.6%. You'll see in particular for Arlington, there is a decrease this year, negative 4.15%. In the assessment, while the increase is 10.1% in the four-year rolling average. And we'll talk a little bit more about this and how it affects Arlington, but we'll see the reasons for the decrease. We'll explain a little bit further, but Arlington overall, percent assessments 33% and 35% enrollment. So overall in total, it appears to be reasonably consistent percentages. And overall, we kind of compared the minimum required contribution in different buckets, and those appear to be reasonably consistent. And it's the assessment over the minimum contribution that has decreased. So we can continue on to the historical assessment trends. You'll see in prior years, FY24, 23 and 22, the percent change in the assessment and the percent change in the four-year rolling average. Again, the main driver being the four-year rolling average for our operating budget. So you'll see those track pretty closely. Okay. Continue on to the per pupil cost analysis. Kevin will pick up unless there's any other questions. So a question we often get is, why is Minuteman's per pupil cost analysis high? Minuteman's per pupil cost has always been relatively high ever since I've been associated with Minuteman going back 10 or 11 years now. And there are a few drivers to that that that may give some insight on some of that. Our teacher salaries are very high. They're on the high end. When you look at where we are statewide with vocational technical schools with third, when you look at where we stand within our member districts, we're also third. Some of the drivers of that is because some of our member districts pay at high levels and when we compete for positions, we have to pay where we think a competitive rate. Also, when you have bringing people out of the trade, we have to pay them the salaries that you paid that's either in the union or in the profession that drives us a little higher. So that's one of the reasons that we see teachers salary so high. And we also have a very veteran staff about two thirds, what was the statistic? Two thirds of our teaching staff are on the top scale. Was that on the top scale? So we have a veteran teaching staff that is making it the high end and that's driving it considerably as well. We also have a special education class to consider. So we have a lot of co-teaching in our classrooms. 40% of our students are receiving special education services and therefore we have some classrooms that have two teachers in there providing that support to the students. So that's a considerable driver when we look at our salaries. The other area that we see our class extraordinarily high compared to the regional school districts, regional location school districts, is our transportation. When you look at some of the other, some of the other vocational technical schools in the area, think of Shashi, think of the show, but think of Asavit. A lot of those schools, when you look at them in a map, are centered within the district. Whereas when you look at Minuteman, it's basically, Allington is the furthest east and then, it really goes south or west out to Lancaster, Bolton, Stoke. So when we look at our daily bus run costs, that's considerably higher than when we did comparisons with some of the other regional vocational schools. So it is a, those are some of the drivers. It's not completely all of them. But it's one of the things that when we compare to other other towns, sort of the three main reasons that we think is driving the per pupil costs. When I pause there. Charlie. Thank you, Madam Chairman. I have two sort of, two questions regarding this. One is, have you done any analysis of what your cost trends were before the Disco Building and now after the Disco Building? Looking at what specifically? Well, you know, changing student to teacher ratios or, I know that we went through a program of changing the academic, I forget the term, but the modality of having different, I want to say colleges, but they're not colleges, but you had these different. Dual enrollment? No, no, no, no. The silence for your different specialties shops. That's a change that you went through about three years ago. Am I missing? I wish I can't speak to it very well because I wasn't. I'm sorry. I can't remember the term of art that was used, but. Academy model. Oh, the Academy. The Academy model. Okay. I think all the Academy things like that. The only intention of the Academy model is to, to really emphasize how. Academic teachers and vocational teachers. Is to relate with one another. You know, back. Back in the day, you had the academic teachers collaborating with each other and the vocational teachers collaborating with each other and never the two shall meet. But now what we have is we have. Collaborations with a science teacher in the math teacher, we'll meet with a three teacher and they'll talk about different disciplines that math and, and science may have in capatory that that's the type of thing, but that collaboration doesn't necessarily lead to any type of staffing reduction or anything like that. Or. I mean, I'm getting both, both ways. Yeah, no. Okay. No. So then the second question is. With respect and special education costs. Is there any. I have more special education students that have to take on schools. And if so, why? Yes. Perhaps some of our member town districts. Encourage students that. To apply. Maybe I do know that what I can say is students that, that receive special education services thrive. They do extremely well. We provide a high level of services for the students and they, they proved to be very successful. Some students. Work better in an environment where you're doing hands on experiential learning rather than classroom, you know, seven periods a day. So it's historically been that way. In fact, the 40% that I mentioned is lower than it's been in the last number of years. But we've always found that we've been very successful with students receiving student services. Have you looked at the per pupil costs? If controlling the transportation, like if you went to five other schools, took the transportation costs out, take the transportation costs out of minimum. What sort of differences do you see? Yeah, we did. We took a look at, you know, special education. We took a look at transportation. We're still on the higher end, frankly. But we didn't look at that. Thank you. How was the utility costs? What's the impact on the utility costs from moving into your new building versus the old one? You know, have you, have you achieved the savings? I think you were hoping for it. I think, you know, within the past two years, we hadn't necessarily seen the building running, you know, due to COVID with maximum amount of students. So now that we're actually had like a full year of last year, looking at, you know, actuals, I think, you know, we were able to make this decrease to the budget to make it more in line with what, you know, the optimal idea for the school is. I haven't necessarily compared it to when we were running the old school building. I can certainly do that. But I think this budget reflects, you know, a more accurate utilities costs. Now that we've, you know, had the school running with, you know, full students. Everybody's going to find that I'm right. Yes, we have been leads. So it's going to be more efficient than the building. So good. Thank you. As utilities were up. Utilities were up in the new building. You're up for a smaller building. We're students for the first two, three years of the building was over. Is that under control now? It is. Yes. In this budget, we have decreased our utilities to reflect some savings out there. It's good. So it's an all electric building. Yes. The new building. No, no, we have some natural gas that we use as well as electric. What is that? You know, it's up. I don't know. It's natural gas. Yeah, I think it's natural gas as I eat. And do you have solar on the roof? Yes. Okay. Next slide, please. So we want to talk about why our assessment. Percentage was so low this year. And there's three basic bullets that we wanted to talk to. And the first one is there was an adjustment in the chapter 70 state aid that we budgeted last year. That impacted this year's budget, for example. So what happened last year was we budgeted about a three point million dollars and 3.1 million dollars in chapter 70 state aid. Because when we adopted our budget at the end of January, the governor's budget hadn't been released yet. As a result of once that budget was released and it went through the legislative process, the actual number that we received for chapter 70 was 3.9 million. So in essence, we received about $781,000 more than what we had budgeted. And in that race and questions from some of our member towns about, you know, how do we handle it? Can we rebate it in FY 24? And we have a proposal that we'll be talking to in the next slide. But I think the real takeaway from that is that did skew the number in a way that makes the assessments look lower than they actually would have been under this proposed budget. It would probably be closer to 4% increase in assessments had. We budgeted FY 24, chapter 70 compared to FY 25. The other item that Nikki talked about a little bit was the, I'm sorry, that I talked about a little bit was the athletic field debt service. Since that's the first year that that's implemented, you can plan on seeing $114,000, $15,000 each year as an offset. But seeing it for the first year does create a reduction in assessments. And then out of district tuition and capital fees, as Nikki mentioned earlier, as we see that revenue start to tail out. And those are students that are currently in the, in the school that'll be graduating. And that will shift some of that that crossed onto the member towns. So getting back to the discussion on the chapter 70 budget for this year, as I mentioned, there was some questions from our member towns, whether we should rebate those funds through lower assessments this year. And I was able to meet with all the town administrators and town leaders in the district. And we worked through a proposal whereby this is sort of the breakdown of what Minuteman voted versus, I said 3.1. 2.1 million versus 2.9 million. So $781,000 difference that Minuteman received that we hadn't budgeted or planned for. And on the right hand side, you'll see the, what rebates would have been received by each town. If we go to the next slide, we had a discussion with our, with our town managers and town administrators regarding where we are with the school building projects. We haven't closed out the project yet. We expect to close it out maybe by September or so. So we still have outstanding short-term borrowing of about $2.8 million. So we're expecting about $2.2 million from MSBA when they release the final reimbursement, which leaves a balance that would need to be financed once the project's closed out of about $565,000. So the proposal that we discussed with the town administrators and town managers is rather than refunding the $781,000, can we take that $565,000 or so in interest? So total required cost to close out would be $615,000. Can we take $615,000 from the, from the $782,000 and apply that against the balance that's due on the, on the MSBA project? That'll alleviate the need to finance that over the next three or four years, have it raised on the, on the recap sheet as additional exempted debt and save about $145,000 a year. And that was accepted by all town managers and all town administrators. So it's our intention, given that voter support, to move forward with an amended budget at the April school committee meeting that will allow us to commit those funds towards closing out the building project. And then the balance of which we would probably recommend either OPEB or capital stabilization or something in that respect. So that's how we handle the, the excess chapter 70 funds that we received. Does anyone have any questions on that process? Thank you. This seems like this discussion is really, in addition to the fact that we've had a reduction in the appropriation this year, right? Yes. And not all the towns had a reduction, but Arlington did. Maybe one or two other times. But overall the assessment was relative, the growth in the assessment was relatively lower than in the past. That's correct. Now, I think in Arlington's case, my memory serves me right, about $150,000, $170,000 that is associated with fields. With the fact that this year you're, you're absorbing the debt service on the fields. Is that the right number? Of the $370,000 reduction. Yeah. It'd be about $40,000 related to the fields. What's the rest of the reduction? It's just primarily due to the fact that the state aid is basically overstated, if you will, because we receive this windfall in FY24. When we get to the budget slides comparing year over year, it's going to show like there's a rather significant increase in revenue. The reality is that's not the case. It basically ended up being level funded. So just by, just the way it's represented, we would have a decrease. If we were to adjust that model and say, all right, we'll just plug in the 2.9 million that we actually got in FY24 compared to FY25, Arlington would still receive a decrease because the budget overall is relatively stable. But it would only be what, $90,000 or so? It'd be about a 1% decrease. So I think it's part of it's a function of the chapter 78 is what's causing the decrease. And part of it is just where the budget broke this. Next slide, please. So I've been kind of delaying this one, but this is the question that's been asked a couple of times. We have a building that's on campus. We refer to it as the East building. We've had it for years. It was built by the students. And it was occupied for a number of years by the Bright Horizons child South care group. And it was a private school called the Tramont school that occupied it. But in recent years, we haven't been occupying the building. And it's starting to deteriorate. It needs some serious attention. And when I talked earlier about building capacity and shop space, I did mention that animal science probably the one shop that, well, frankly, it wasn't designed into the original plans because we rolled out animal science after, as we were going through the building project itself. The plan at the time was, well, we'll see if we can get a partner that'll join us and we can renovate this particular building and house the animal science program. There was some discussion about that. It never actually materialized for whatever reason. So right now, we had to pivot on that for the time being. So we minimized and also owns three houses on the back side of the building residential units. So we renovated one of those houses to accommodate animal science. They just moved into that space after February vacation. And it's going to be a good temporary solution for them and freeze up some space within the building that we can use for classrooms, resource and shop space in the horticulture area. And it gives animal science their own space. But again, it's only temporary. We did issue a request for a proposal for, again, a partnership to see if there were any other interested parties that were in the vet's, the veterinary in space, be it running clinics or hospitals or colleges to see if there was an interest in a partnership. We received no interest on that. So at this point, and again, this will probably be something the new superintendent will have to give some consideration to. But if we're able to fund up to $3.2 million in our capital stabilization account, and we're able to match that with a million to a million five of capital skills grant money that's out there eligible for this type of work, if we have about $4.5 million that we could do, we could probably renovate 3,000 square feet of that property and create the space for animal science. It's a 16,000 square foot space. So whatever else happens is probably more for a future discussion. But I do think there's immediate concern for animal science. And that's why I've been so aggressive about trying to fund this capital stabilization account. Not to mention the fact that the building is deteriorating on us right now because we haven't put any money into that. And we need to do sightings. We need to do the roof over. The bones are very good on the building. But we just doing nothing is not the answer. So we're working with our architect to see what we can get for four million, $4.5 million. But in my mind right now on the animal science program, frankly, I think we're, we're not delivering on what we're selling. It just, we really, it's such a, the interest level is through the roof in it. Our instructors are fabulous. We're just not providing them the clinical space that they need to really do an effective job with the students. And I just feel as though that needs to be addressed, which is why I'm being so aggressive on the capital stabilization recommendation, which is what caused that spike in that particular line. So that's how I see it. Again, I'm not going to be here for the full story, but I think, you know, I do think that there is some consensus for the school from the school committee that would have to do something about the animal science program in order to, to improve the space that they're using. And I think that's not to mention that we do have to take care of the building itself. I'll stop. Questions. Oh, Jim and Charlie. You mentioned it was constructed by students. Yes. But most of the recommendation can done by students. Depends. I wouldn't see us kids doing roofing or anything like that. There may be an opportunity for them to do work. They did some work when we did the residential home over at Middle Street, which is helpful. It's always good to see students get involved in those types of, those types of programs. Charlie. Thank you, chair. I think, I think that the school has a choice here between channeling the ESCO standard asset money either to OPA or to this building. I mean, that, that 500,000 a year on the, on the ESCO would, would finance a $8 million renovation. For the handle it. And if this is really a serious issue, that might be one way to handle it without having any impact on, on the member assessments. No, it's a fair, that's, that's a fair alternative. We're concerned about that with the school committee. I just did not think that that would require a score for funding under that proposal Cali. We'd have. Well, you have it, but it wouldn't have a, it wouldn't have an impact on your assessment rate because you're spending that right now on, on that lease program. And when the lease drops off, that's sort of in your base. Understood. But we'd have to bond it. We have to find the debt service. We'd have to go up and get agreement of all nine member towns. That, that this is our plan. It would be a sell, but I'm sure that, you know, we can, we can certainly demonstrate that. You know, it's already in the budget, but I just don't think that there's an appetite out there based upon some of the meetings I've been to as far as authorizing more debt for minimum. And it only takes one to say no. I will note to that of the 550, there are the 16. Um, old member towns that are paying so that about only about 425 that are the nine number. Oh, so. So some, some of it would all prove to the current budget, but some of it will just go away. Yeah. Correct. Yeah. Some of it being paid by the previous. Thank you. Um, yeah, just, I'm just noticing that final bullet there that says, we'll not add additional seats or capacity. And I just wonder how does that work? In other words, you know, assume everyone's there now, we're going to add a new building. And is there any way that that could be reconsidered or is there any kind of leeway there because it just seems like it's such a popular program just in general. And you know, you have no problem filling these seats. You could open seats, probably find twice as many people fill each one of these seats. Um, you know, is there any kind of scalability? In other words, when you look at that building, maybe I'm just throwing it out there. Maybe you asked for more money, but you can increase capacity. And all of a sudden the revenue is going to go up. So back to that final bullet, is that, is that locked in stone or is there some leeway there? Well, we can only, we can only accommodate so many students per program. So, um, I think we're a capacity in that program. Uh, what, what this is intended to deliver is that over the last couple of years, there had been some discussion about probably trying to see if we can increase enrollment to 725, maybe even 800 with a number of different, uh, suggestions that might or might not work. Um, minimum, at least at this moment, in my mind, isn't ready to be looking at any level of capacity enrollment expansion right now. Um, I just, I just don't see how we get accommodated. I can see, however, if we do a complete renovation of that building at some point, moving some of our other shops that aren't necessarily shops with their more classroom labs, say engineering or robotics or design and visual communications, where if we created, uh, those types of spaces in that building, which would then create more space in the main building that could be props, perhaps use classrooms, that's a potential. But I don't think we have the funding there right now to, to make that reach in the shop and as of right now. So what I'm looking for is a, is what I think is a, an immediate, an immediate need, the recommendation to try to comment. Certainly the new superintendent can look at the potential of that, of that building and how that could perhaps best, uh, uh, increase capacity or. Yeah. So there's constraint in addition to space and building constraints. There's also, I assume just faculty constraints, but even if you increase the building space, there's other constraints as well. So what you're saying? Well, I think that, uh, we, we would have to move things around. I think that maybe the, the largest turbo right now would be the funding issue. But no, wouldn't the, wouldn't the funding maybe take care of itself? If you, if you were able to bring in another and I'm just, you know, and did additional, you know, 20 to 30 kids, wouldn't the funding take care of itself? Yeah. I'd have to run the model. But yeah. You know, I think the estimate that the architect gave us as far as how much it's costing to renovate these days is somewhere around a thousand bucks a square foot. Yeah. For a commercial space with equipping. So it's, it's a rather significant, uh, undergone, uh, undertaken. Yeah. Thank you. So just to kind of wrap it up, um, in our operating capital, we sort of summarize this before, uh, you'll see the difference in the, in the capital equipment line of 422,000 of which 350 is the recommendation on the stabilization account, but overall the operating capital budgets, a total of 3.96%. If we can go to the next slide, please. We'll see, um, where that discrepancy on that, uh, chapter 70 line where we're showing it by 24 is 2.1. We're probably closer to 2.9. It's really showing an $800,000 difference, but that $800,000 we did get, we just simply didn't include it in our budget. So that's what's kind of skewing, uh, the assessment bringing it down to a 0.82%. You'll also see that the decrease in the, uh, non-resident capital fee. Um, and you'll see that the change in the, uh, with the addition of the facilities, rental revolving revenue for the debt service associated, uh, with the athletic fields, uh, moving on to the next slide. Um, you'll see the breakdown by, uh, assessment components, uh, where, uh, the state, the state assignment are required contributions up 9%. Uh, transportation reimbursement up about 12%. Uh, again, the capital lease we talked about, um, and the, uh, and the, uh, in the assessments on minimum contributions where we see a decrease. So the total assessments are 0.82%. But I think that's, uh, that wraps up our comments would be happy to answer any remaining questions that you might have. What are the questions that people have? Al Jones and Charlie. Talk a little bit about the co-op program. You know, with the incentive it is, uh, I'll see any, you know, any cost initiatives and, uh, a room to expand on to the increased capacity. Um, the co-op program is, is, is basically a result of partnerships that Minuteman has in the different trade industries. Um, and with local businesses that provides opportunities for students that can, begin in their junior year and into their senior year to work co-op. Um, we, the only, the only cost associated with it is basically the coordinator who's, who's coordinating all of these assignments. Um, and I think it really adds value to the educational experience that we have at Minuteman. Uh, some of the barriers for some of the students relate to transportation. You know, some students may not have the ability to get to work or not. Other students, um, may not be ready to try the workforce yet, particularly some of our juniors. Um, and then there are those that simply like school. They want to play sports. They want to do that type of thing. So I, you can't do co-op and then, but not show up for sports. Students are involved in that. Um, I want to say about a hundred. That's quite a few. Yeah. Did they, did they still assess for the pool tuition? Oh, sure. They, yeah. Yeah. So are the school's costs lower for the co-op? Well, they're taking a seat. I mean, you know, they're still our students. It's just that they're not in the classroom. They're not in the job that way. So we can't backfill them on the assumption that they're, you know, we can't backfill students because first of all, they're in their junior and senior year. They're not taking any students in that, in those grade levels. So, um, it's mostly just an enhancement to their. Okay. I was wondering with a hundred students, I was wondering if that was essentially an increase in capacity. Without taking a desk space. Yeah. Now, and given the 19 air mages that we have those, those hundred students to spread throughout the different areas. So you don't really get that, that, that bang for up in terms of space because it's, the shops again, with the exception of the animal science, the shops are fine from the past. It's our classroom space that really presents the challenges. Primarily in the freshman year, because in the freshman year, our freshman students, instead of rotating a one week academic, one week shop, like the upperclassmen, they, they do English and that, um, every week in preparation for their MCAS. And that strategy to be a very successful, uh, way of delivering curriculum. And that's what causes the backlog on the classroom. But we wouldn't be able to see any real benefit because as a result of the co-op place, it's from a, from a capacity issue. We certainly see it from the, the experiences students gain. Oh, sort of interesting because my new neighbor is on the board of artists for humanity, which is sort of a job shop for high school designer. And then it seemed like it was an increase in all the media design and visual design and things like that. But I didn't know if we had any affiliation with artists for humanity, but, you know, again, putting kids out and, you know, paid jobs without taking a seat. You can make a note to find out where our advisory board composition is for that. And we could find out whether that organization is part of our advisory board for that shop. Thank you. Artists for humanity. Artists for humanity. I guess. Thank you. I'll find it. So, thank you. Chair. Superintendent Mahoney, you mentioned that this is this year's induction at the assessment. There's something we can't expect in the future. That there's going to be. Increases in. Mention several different categories for you to see these impacts of the future. several different categories where you can see these impacts in the future. It might be a good idea going into town meeting to have a maybe a five-year projection and starting with, you know, fiscal 24 and then we suddenly have this drop in 25 due to the factors that you mentioned and then set the expectation for people to have some modest increases, realistic increases going forward and that should reduce the sticker shock impact next year when you come back with an increase. It doesn't have to be too detailed to chart, you know, I mean it can just have three or four lines. Thanks for this question. Michael. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin. Thank you, Nicky, for the customarily detailed and lucid presentation of a lot of numbers, a lot of information. I remember it took the theater a long time to get fully equipped with the hardware that it needed. Is theater fully up and running now? Yes. Great, that is great news. The expiring lease on the abandoned assets to escrow, there'll be a lot of demands on that money. I imagine when that lease is on that budget line, when that lease is fulfilled, all consideration to my colleague, I would, at CHI, is holding firm on the plan of devoting that to OPEB because OPEB is a very unsexy liability to fund. I think there are other options that could be employed in terms of public and private partnerships and many, so many others, in rehabilitating some deteriorating physical space on campus, options that just are not available to do something as nerdy and in the weeds as OPEB liability. What percentage of field revenue versus the interest payments on the borrowed money to complete the field project? Are the revenues received from field rentals covering that now or not? Yes, oh yeah, it is. That fund's making money right now. Damn, that's good. But again, if we do move forward with Leslie, our projections would suggest that it's going to be just about right here. Yeah, I'm a little bit concerned when you mentioned Leslie and I didn't concern, I'm certainly very disappointed, but thank you for some very honest comments about the animal sciences. These were public-private partnerships that were well advertised, trumpeted, and in fact the animal sciences partnership was actually announced and then it fell apart. And now we can't get respondents to the RFP. Correct. That is very disappointing. The concrete slab that started out as the extra piece of the building project and was later deemed was at the north building. Correct. Going to be, how is that going? It's the contract. The north building, it's an adjacent building to our welding shop where we're putting some of our larger welding equipment in. We added, the shell of the building was done by a contractor. We just signed over the building to Minivan and right now our students are putting in the heating and the venting for the, in the ductwork for all of that internal climate control and we expect that'll be done by the end of the school year so the building will be able to be occupied next school year and that space will come online. Yes. Excellent. There was talk for a number of years on contesting the amount of money paid to the town of Lincoln in building permit fees that in the school committees, a town of Lincoln had charged wholly exorbitant amounts for the building permits on the building and way beyond the actual costs of doing the inspections and approving the work, whatever it been and to keep the building program on calendar Minivan decided to pay those amounts and defer the question of contesting them until later. Where's that stand out? I don't have enough data on that right now. It's two million dollars, Kevin. Do we know where that's going? I don't have enough data on that right now. Okay. So from all that you've said, the idea that had been publicly announced it and discussed it and the number of four of eventually getting the per capita enrollment up to 800, that doesn't seem to be operable now, does it? Not in the near future. I don't see that. Thank you for the clarification. Last question, presumed that there was a settlement offered and accepted by the previous superintendent to terminate the final two years of the contract which she had been hired. How much of that cost? It's fine, it's public. I know that there was a salary settlement and there may have been some other things. There was. So the salary settlement was for this year I named June 30th 200,000 dollars which was the agreed upon salary as well as health insurance benefits of 12,528 dollars. That was for one year of salary. Was there for the second year of the contract was was there a settlement for the third year of the contract? No, that was that was a full settlement but you do sir. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate all the information. So Rebecca, thank you. I had a question about this 100% acceptance rate from Arlington for my grade for next year which I think is fantastic on the one hand like I think everyone is glad to hear that the Arlington kids who want to go to Miniman are accepted but I'm wondering about how that fits in with special education given that in the past you know my understanding was that their special education programs that Arlington High can offer that are available at Miniman and so I'm wondering if you took all of the kids is there a risk that some of those kids you're going to look at their eyes in a couple months and be like we don't actually have the programs for these kids or do you feel like they were counseled ahead of time on the special education that Miniman can offer? Well our admissions policy process is spent blind. Yeah. So we don't know which students are coming in with IEPs so we'll get that information over the summer. We can typically accommodate most of the students that go through our admissions process fairly well. I think this year there were maybe two or three that we had to send back to the ascending district just because we couldn't. So there's always that risk but we don't know that at this stage of the game it's a little later process that those those areas would be identified. Would you be open to you know serving the kids that have been accepted if they have needs that you don't currently like what if you took a kid whose IEP coming from Arlington says they need a one-on-one aid and what would you do? I'm sorry I can't address specific those types in that level of detail but what I do know is if we can accommodate a student if we're doing a student disservice by just trying to keep the student in and it's it's not the best interest so we do try but and again like I said maybe three or four this year so in the whole school in or out so. I'm just curious because I think in the past maybe some of that was addressed during admissions and so if the kids do you know what I mean like during the admissions process some of the kids who weren't offered a slot admitement just because they didn't have the right program for them so if you took all the kids I think on the one hand I think that's a great sign but. If after the student was accepted it was identified in a word there wasn't it wasn't a good fit and maybe that's the case but as of right now in June February 15th with our acceptance cut off there's been no consideration for any type of special education services by those 170 by those 210 students who were invited to is it to apply. I guess I'll direct my question at our school here at this point okay so I can you want to tell us how the superintendent searches go? Superintendent searches going wonderfully I was able to share with the Arlington Select Board that we made an offer to one of our three final candidates everything was fully vetted in accordance with Massachusetts Open Meeting Law and we made the offer publicly the chair and the vice chair of the search committee stepped out made the phone call offer and she accepted and we're in negotiations now. Other questions? Josh? I have just a few random questions. Based on like the 19 different fields and some of you mentioned that your students are going to HVAC and stuff and you asked about solar is there like which which of the programs if we save it would be if we get back to climate change which are the programs with those students be going into where do you try and guide guide students at all? It's climate change. I would think you know this it could range to a number of different programs that we have either you know environmental would be among the electrical some of those areas. But not like specific making pumps or installation. Engineering, environmental, electrical even even plumbing to some extent I would think that's where you see some of that. But have you thought about creating a program for specifically for those kinds of trends? My understanding is that a lot of the there are certain units that involve those types of climate change related topics that they address as part of their part of the training in the workshops. Let's see my other questions. Just if you could remind me during COVID that you closed down or was it remote or fully in person or what was it? For the when COVID hit it was remote that next fall we opened up at certain intervals and according to what was recommended so at some points there was alternating classes and it was you know 25 percent capacity and it slowly went to 50 percent capacity 75 percent capacity. It doesn't get similar to what we did. I'll just add from the parent perspective because my son was a sophomore when it happened is that man was equipped with Microsoft office teams and was able to pivot super fast right which as a parent made us happy and my husband and myself very happy. I guess probably what's driving my questions is the the withdrawals over two of those grades like 22 23 24 seem to have fairly peak numbers going back to our so if we looked at those like a percentage of the class yeah it almost seems like 40 or 50 percent is going back on for Marlon. So it's it's hard to say because it's over a four-year span but you know I did talk to our data communications director and there was some there was some communication or you know response that you know maybe a virtual shop was it for that student so that could have been part of the reason why they decided to return to an academic school just not you know really doing that hands-on I know that you know they did work to try to do some you know virtual shop I don't know did your son have any experience with virtual shops? I think virtual it shops is hard for any student any teacher when you're trying to do hands-on so there were a lot of software tools that all of the teachers utilized to get that you know there's a lot of visual modeling and things that you can do and then what was nice is that in the summertime they ran labs or extra hours to offer to families so that the students could come in and get that hands-on practical work and everybody signed up for it and the students were like yeah I need it I mean my son was like mom can I do some more year over we sort of that global can I do it over I'm the way that all the students felt right it was tough on all the students so I think you're right particularly for the kind of stuff you're offering from all of these especially the different um okay and then just like from a selfish finance community perspective the way I understand the funding is like whatever our our own enrollment is as of October 1st that's what we're kind of paying for whether those students leave or not correct and I will clarify um the five students that I mentioned prior that was students that entered in after October 1 entered into so not necessarily with Drew but um there was a follow-up question were their seats replaced with somebody else five students none from Arlington entered in after October 1 which shows the limited amount entering after despite withdrawals coming out you know we do anticipate and sometimes take in excess anticipating the five percent kind of drop off throughout the year but that I wanted to clarify especially because you had that question in relation to the withdrawals so the next following fiscal year even though you know you have paid for that slot um the next October 1 number won't have that spot and that's across the board for all of our towns right but I am again at 38,000 of course doing or whatever it's still not nothing it was five or ten or whatever yes like how is that managed just from an emotional kind of guidance perspective do you work with your own nice school guidance department or do you try and push people to make a decision before October 1 so that we can kind of have them in the right seat at the right time push them in what we've got well anyway like I know sometimes I miss a deadline and all of a sudden I lost out on some financial opportunity because I missed a deadline in this case if they were with Drew Act after on October 2nd and Arlington was kind of on the hook for their seat right whereas if they withdrew on September 29th they wouldn't be so I'm just wondering like what happened that I'm sure it's a very busy time of the year but I'm just wondering how you know how much effort you put in to making sure that the fit is right in that first month well I mean it's it's ultimately up to the student and the family Charlie we're not targeting at that online yet from a funding perspective this is a this is a personal decision so I would say that the two of us mutually exclusive okay sorry thank you thank you thank you done Charlie the clarification from a funding perspective don't you calculate the assessments based on the rolling average of the students of the town yes because they're on a four-year rolling average yeah so that what happens to one of these booths on October 1st doesn't really affect the funding in any major way the four-year rolling average help you you know spread it out so if you see a fake increase one year it's kind of spread out more amongst you know future fiscal budget so I wouldn't say there's an immediate impact on one or two students but you know certainly understand the question other questions Rebecca oh thank you just said the phone again sorry to harsh very good stuck on the sector first question but this is really something I'm trying to understand um of the kids not who transfer into Minuteman but kids who transfer out of Minuteman two are on during the academic year do you have a sense for how many of those kids I don't know what words you use but like if they're in good standing or on track to pass their classes or how many of them are having like intense problems um that I wouldn't know the answer to that yeah that's not data we have available I would know the answer that I don't think we would I don't have just I don't have any answer why so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna venture to try okay I'm sorry maybe we can have a yeah I can um we can take it offline and I can certainly um work with our our data analysts and our admissions group to see what kind of data um we do have and it's not something we have it could be something that we look onto the future to attract thank you any other questions do you have anything you want to add or have you covered everything to your staff section oh thank you for your time we really appreciate it um yeah and um I think the collaboration kind of across the town um with all of us at Minuteman has been really terrific and um there's a lot of admiration um Kevin have known one another for a long time there's a lot of long-standing relationships um and that really helps and I have a regular cadence where I'm talking to the select board of Arlington and um so that's I think that collaboration is as a new new kid on the block if you will for the school committee it's been really welcoming it's good to hear well all right well thank you thank you very much thanks for your time everyone let's push putting on top of the minutes good night everyone thank you again thank you thank you take the rest of the night off I'm going home to do laundry out take care okay so we have um minutes from 4th in the 6th so since I last sent these out I did add the reclass documents that Carolyn had sent out but and that's I don't know what's that yeah yeah um all right anybody notice any other changes revisions that we need to make to the minutes of March 4th okay is there a motion to approve the minutes for March 4th all right all in favor say aye all right any opposed so Chris I'm not sure what to do I was all here for half the meeting you have to just decide if you if you want to say I will abstain all right all right all in favor raise your hand one two three four five six seven eight nine ten in the affirmative any opposed abstain abstentions to abstentions okay or Mike and Dean are all right yeah it was 10 for two abstaining or missing the vote so it's 10-0-2 minutes of the 6th okay this was not the voting night right anyone uh have any revisions to the minutes of the 6th all right is there a motion so hold second all right all in favor raise your hand one two one two three four five six seven eight nine ten 12 13 and the affirmative any opposed any abstentions of course I ask for a hand please okay and then three three missing the all right um budgets let's do um like the resource so we have some clarity um so it clears that the park park department um is contributing about for the park has a year to give me a minute um and that but weirdly there are states see that as a calendar year not a budget year not our budget year so who's that's who a fever that's an open that's not the future okay so so thank you director your thousands but when it goes to the community it might look a little different depending on how those things come out but the numbers that we that I originally put into to you for how much the actual sort of field maintenance uh then are just dbw yeah so so I want to recommend that uh we move 30,000 from natural resources to field maintenance 20,000 of that if we found that was just a mistake it was both to be in field maintenance and it was just our foot in a fine place 10,000 is the amount that uh is over um more than just recent start leverage for overtime um and and Mike right after his three to that said that the field maintenance will come out to 90k which is still doesn't really cover what we're paying but it's a little bit closer those more more honest so my recommendation is that we approve the um and that's research budget at 1,819,081 and we'll take the number again we're going to take natural resources first okay we'll vote on a number for that or make for natural resources so that's a number I just said for natural resources and then we'll okay then we'll vote uh field maintenance okay can you say the number again yeah one million eight hundred nineteen thousand two hundred eighty one thirty thousand left in the budget and and that's coming out of out of the digital 20,000 that's in the maintenance line which as I said was a mistake and out of the over time five one zero three and that still needs to over have a little bit higher than left under average and but which is slightly lost so if we were probably shaft over nine numbers we're going to go up that's an issue so maybe some bigger room there is not a bad idea so you have a motion for 18199 has it been seconded so um everyone's is clear we're reducing the natural resources budget by 30,000 dollars 20,000 will be taken out of the maintenance line 202 line and 10,000 from the overtime line all right any questions john just do you mind me I was just going to stick a lot with you but generally the the 5 2 9 9 the um maintenance you know so now it's up to 90 is that like so is that supplies or is that contractor fees uh so that is we're talking about so that's for people to come and load the lines or you know that don't work right all right okay yeah and um part of my piece to cover a little bit more than anything now but they still cover about 30,000 yeah thank you any other questions all right all in favor natural resources at 1 8 1 9 2 8 1 say aye and you pose all right in the second recommendation and I don't think we're going to have any of this last discussion but um but uh uh we got the message from several people that our parts sort of are just over you we have to do them for the number of people and so that it's not really a broad money at the problem issue but it's more of you know would it be really get good you know the old that we have to let them hang out for a while that was that was a plane made by several drug mist because a lot of people turn it right yeah so that was yeah but all right um okay so my recommendation for uh main plant field is um to fund that at Nganbidas okay i'm showing how much 90 that's 90 90 there's been a motion any questions i'll go just isn't really a question but i mean i agree with these changes but it doesn't really resolve the issue of inconsistency and the structure of the budgets of fiscal year and things like that do we want to pursue or plane pursue them so which inconsistency well just uh joe's got his own by job and the manager's got their own they've never seen them yeah i think we're back and can actually talk about it yeah um just briefly so we spoke to joe and in fact yes as we mentioned there is a revolving fund it just appears to select four votes directly on them they've argued for these revolving funds so i added the entire list of revolving funds from the select board report i added them under the rectify budget if you'd like to look at them and so yeah he says they have uh you know they have a balance in the account of about 16 000 that they do in fact taking some shield fees and spend that's about 30 that they got that each year but but it was like a year where it was 70 000 because in our fiscal year they're countered that i think we need that right i just want to if we can take the joe's budget and the manager's budget and put them side by side can we recognize all of them without a secret behavior right it doesn't work right like that yeah right so so the there's a bunch of field fees going into this revolving fund that doesn't show any of your budget right and then money's coming out of that revolving fund that we spent on the fields right wasn't the revolving fund something like retained no this is a separate revolving fund that has nothing to do with joe's retained earnings i hope i hope that kind of matters all that much i think my experience what happens with these field fee funds is um and it's both on the town and the school side there i'm going to call it the way they get collection of their money is they withhold your parents for the next usage up right so like um if if a user group were to rent out um we'd get permits for town and they don't pay the ten dollar per fee permit the town just they chase they chase they chase but then when you get permits for the next season they don't they don't give it's not just pushes it the bottom line's match it's just nothing else everything but that it's just bothers me so what i want to know that they needed to go during this the dpw budget numbers don't actually bounce around a lot they're just going to steadily up and they're now about 111,000 so so we just dpw keeps paying more and more percentage uh or the prices keep going out park market's paying about 35,000 a year prices going up and dpw's coming home with that correct that's what happens they're they're numbers don't bounce up and down it's very messy thank you so for yeah so you said they pay about 35,000 this year yeah and then i'm just confused because alex's email i mean it showed in f by 22 it was about that but in f by 23 and it's like a deluxe or is this just another number that's not really related to the 35,000 so this is this email the email that he sent to you this one um so John from maintenance is this wrong maintenance oh yeah so f by 23 i i assume we'll see that in f by 24 um but when you go to have when when you look at their calendar budget it's it's pretty consistent i i don't know i don't know why it's not even as i assume that it'll show up in f by 24 as a higher this is a fiscal year but the but the but dpw's numbers are not going out again they're just setting it up that's just just there's gotta be other other questions all right so there's a motion um for 90,000 for field maintenance send seconded all in favor say aye any opposed all right so other than what oh i just want to take a moment yeah yeah i just want to um we'll take into that next i just want to say that i think we've worked out with all budgets except insurance and water and sewer and i was told today that there are numbers out it's just so well so what happens is they get the raw numbers and then then resources has to crunch stuff and so it takes them a few days to do that so we've moved our meeting up from the 20th to the 19th if a number of people had said yes okay okay um okay um and so when we on tuesday the 19th at 8 30 to 10 30 and um then we'll present on the 20th in case during the course of our conversation they need to make any changes you know we now have a buffer of 24 hours to do that actually a little more than 24 hours so that's all right so it's planned on doing those two budgets on the 20th and i plan on attending just to it'll be worth the two hours just to walk out with the documents rather than chase them for two or three or four hours like last week okay well or i'm going to keep you on the email but thank you yeah yeah all right let's take that kind of thing okay um i'd like to recommend favorable action on approving the uh assessment all right and i get three things i'd like to point out uh two superintendents one two superintendents ago superintendent promised that if we support the field the new uh field maintenance uh agreements and field creation that if we pay the debt service for the first year because they don't have any maintenance any uh fees coming in then for the rest of the uh for the rest of the time the revolving funded and would pay that the next superintendent either didn't remember or wasn't told that and so she promised uh last spring that if there's any increase in local aid over the uh governor's original recommendation uh she would make sure that goes back this superintendent who i've known for like 30 years made all that happen uh no arguments no let's figure out someplace to spend the money just you know about the two promises and make sure that they were carried forth so all the field debt services offer our assessments now and the increase in the fiscal this year's fiscal state aid is being returned to the uh members um in reduced assessments and then the third thing is uh we're getting a five percent decrease in our fiscal 25 assessments i can't remember the last time that happened uh you know they they they get all this extra money they could have really gung gung ho and spent it um but whether through kevin or through um wherever they didn't they basically gave it all back and reduced our assessments and modified the others the ups and downs of each town vary according to the enrollment but still uh you know they they carried through all the promises they made to us of they reduced our assessments i think they're taking some long-term steps to reduce their future uh their future liabilities and uh opab and capital and so i think we should support that there's still an expensive school and i i um i'm glad that they faced that head-on and i think most of the things that you know the things that kevin said were correct um but i'll keep beating on them uh and i think that any suggestions you have uh coming out of this meeting please go home and write them down and shoot me an email because when uh kevin um is going back on june 30th to golf and the beach uh and i'm gonna try to make an appointment to see the next superintendent as soon as possible and i'd like to have a whole series of things that we would like them to do um i think this was a lot of great questions and uh but getting back i recommend favorable reaction on the uh budget and the assessments so anyway any discussion and kevin's a wealth of knowledge especially in getting things to happen and we all appreciate that the animal science shop has serious problems it was conceived under totally different conditions and sold to student applicants as something much more hands-on and clinically based than it is right now and made a man has failed establishing a partnership with the clinicians that would make that happen and it then has structural asset that is literally falling down because they haven't been able to achieve the partnership or any other needs to rehabilitate it and yet they could have taken the excess this year and plowed it all back in that would have been a lot of good things happening there it rubs meat or law that for two and a half years the school has looked at two million dollars in excess building permit fees charged by the town of Lincoln not done anything about it they have dithered in pulling the trigger on what council is estimated would be a winnable case and yet would cost one estimates estimates provided to the school community the pastor about 50 000 dollars litigation costs i would roll the dice any day on 50 grand for two million they haven't done it kevin has an interim's freedom to state the truth frankly and without elaboration but i should heard more information on that point tonight he fests up to the fact that the animal sciences program is stuck in the mud they have more kids who want to be in there they have no space to put them they have no collaborators they're not giving the kids the experience that they said and he has the interim's freedom to say so because like you said what's going to happen at the end of the year to him your tires anyways i am with you i recommend i recommend a passage of their touch and hide up and i hope to be part of those conversations for the next super 10 any any other comments or questions all right all in favor of a minute man assessment at eight five six two two nine say i i may post let's do um transfer a fund cemetery article 60 so um there is a 240 000 offset in the cemetery budget i mean from um lots of red and barrel the capital is looking for 10 000 from the months Jennifer uh is there a motion to um transport transfer 240 000 to the cemetery commissioners and 10 000 to get capital budget from the state of watson votes the remote man and i found that this so partly the 240 000 offset from um that's in the cemetery budget comes from the sale of um lots of graves so we need to we need to approve the transfer from the sale the the fund um from the fund containing um might have been the sale of lots of graves to the cemetery commissioners for that offset and then you also need to approve the transfer of 10 000 from that same fund help fund the capital budget which is for headstone repair so that's what we're doing with article 60 so we just didn't look at that article so i'll make that motion yeah all right is there a second so that motion okay so how much 10 000 to capital 10 000 to panel for headstone repair and 240 000 to the cemetery commissioners all right so does everyone understand what we are doing with this so question so where's the one coming from the fund um potential potential care of the sale of lots of graves i think is traditionally there are two different funds the two different uh when we met with uh mike um he gave us the numbers um just make sure i get this right yeah i'm looking right now so i explained it and now for some reason i'm second guessing myself so just make sure i'm looking at the right so so um i do the two funds um one is at one million four five thousand three hundred forty seven yeah and the other one is at eight million six hundred seventy three thousand two perpetual care is the eight million number in lots and graves is the one million and they're both hired and we're not yes so we're not we're not we're going to the sale of lots and graves which so at some point soon there's not going to be much going in and we're taking out and like but there's still that sort of like a couple remains that you know are still being filled but a lot more um a lot more people are choosing to be uh cremated so they're going to the um yeah so something to look at for the future um just keeping in looking at the monies coming into you're still earning a lot in interest but obviously the sales may be going down but no wonder we should get that immediately projection i mean if we're taking out two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year and we've got eight or nine million eight million dollars sitting there projecting interest rate yeah the revenue coming in and then we're still going up hopefully we'll be long after we've made our contributions yeah uh curious has anybody done any study like that or do we know how much approximate room is left um for the act for actual lots in uh that's fine right yeah i don't know we can we can ask next year yeah unless you anyway really need a little dollars just gonna throw off two hundred fifty thousand dollars in here yeah we're as i said the amounts are still going up the reserves are still going up right so where's the two hundred and fifty thousand don't keep capital plan two four and those are the cemetery commissioners and and ten goes to the capital plan and what are the cemetery commissioners going to do with it party sorry i'm spending money on the cemetery and they're spending yeah the funneling it back in the for maintenance and those yeah so that's not right well is it the the operating it's the operating but right that's what i thought it was okay all right any other questions all right all in favor say aye all right any opposed yes it's two uh article 61 the overlay reserve i have a number which is seven hundred fifty thousand so moved second all right so the motion to appropriate seven hundred fifty thousand dollars for the overlays from the overlay reserve under article 61 any questions is this a revalue no no but this is for the this is to cover assessments of the additional it's the standard for a very simple assessment it's always about seven hundred fifty thousand all right yeah i mean i think it's and yours ago was six hundred thousand but it's always over area um so there's been a motion and a second one second all right all in favor say aye any opposed yeah let's do that article 62 okay this is amount from stabilization yeah over a hundred thousand traditionally we put a hundred thousand into this fund every year okay do we know what the balance is in long-term stabilization right now anybody have the uh five year plan it's like uh four point one four million looks like four million two some place in that range thank you get the motion stuff of it any other questions any let me know if there's a policy about a range of money there should be in that phone like it shouldn't drop below and it shouldn't go above i don't know it's i think the target has usually been whenever i wanted to go below five percent of the budget of the yeah and uh you know the investment credit rate agencies are looking for that is sort of a minimum but of course what happens is the override gets built up way high and then it's four million dollars if not five percent of the budget no this is what would we need to have any money to have any money left over general this is not the over I think it's a long term long term a lot of separate okay yeah the reserve get where's the money being answered from the general general fund is that the same for the overland as well okay all right so there's a motion for one hundred thousand under articles two it's been seconded any other questions my thought comes from the general fund into into the long-term stabilization is that how the money would come back uh uh my my vote to get back into the general fund is that is that where it's expected for that money to come back this is new money going into the fund and hopefully we won't need it and if we do it comes out the same way this comes out the same way except it needs a two thirds vote yeah stabilization is the operative word john does this go through the current year budget in the uh i think in the line for more articles yeah thank you any other questions right all in favor of one hundred thousand for article 62 say aye aye any opposed yes how about the one point 39 really which one of us didn't fit this year over no no we ever add together we may not so would you have five hundred trees and taxes you don't know oh well we can we can throw it in with insurance and I can deal with it between now and then I used to deal with it I don't have the number oh that five hundred thousand under okay it's it's it's usually one of them a year no I think I think that's it and this and this here the um select board as part of the overall I can't and I think we are throwing in another hundred and fifty thousand we do every year right doesn't somebody else throw in on your visit this I think she's saying this is an addition of that one okay five which was from the overall previous okay this is just another show up in our in this morning this is the hope for the trust fund and cleaned out yeah there's nothing left so I think just six fifty five rest for something extra okay so I have it here so from the non-contributory retirement fund it's five hundred thousand uh a hundred and fifty five thousand from the with the historic agreement that we've had in past and then from the recent overwrite commitment a hundred fifty thousand so the total is eight hundred and five thousand so moved second I second can you repeat that amount again Charlie so from the from the uh the traditional money that we spent on the non-contributory retirement fund five hundred thousand okay there's a select board agreement with retirees when they went from 10 percent to 15 percent on health insurance premiums that they would put in a hundred and five thousand a year into the op-ed okay and then in the recent override it was like two years ago I think um there was a commitment for a hundred fifty thousand the opposite one set into okay thank you so the total is eight hundred and five thousand any question Dean and then John it's related I'll get there when so wasn't your connect why aren't we supposed to be both funded on the pension side 35 2035 I think it is 34 34 might be 34 and we are still ahead of the game by a couple of years this is what we've been doing since I started doing it 12 years ago 20 30 and that's our team or AAA bond which is a good reason to keep us ahead of the game on it we're primary drivers so I just want to point out I'm gonna find this out I think I pointed out the past so we're getting closer and closer today when a zero will show up the five-year plan of the pension line and that the finance committee needs to probably decide whether it wants to recommend letting that zero pass through or to start funding an op-ed fund more aggressive um I know we've kind of kicked it right um but it's you know current five-year plan with us 20 29 but for the final four or five years before we have to do something well Charlie in the past has been all against it but he's changed his mind so Charlie do you want to speak to that a bit because you know better than I do but I can speak to it a little bit the um Charlie has been in favor of spending the five hundred thousand dollars on the op-ed since about 20 years ago yes and I've never been in favor of not spending the health insurance I mean the retirement fund on op-ed I've never never been stressed that actually but I totally agree that we have to fund the op-ed and just like the putting that five hundred thousand dollars that we have a line item in the budget in in um 2034 we will be spending contribution I'm sorry 2033 the last contribution uh is the next the last contribution is about 26 million then the next year it's five million so we have around the 2033 or 2034 to decide what to do with that that contribution so we will have to continue to pay a normal cost which will come out to about five million a year so it looks like we have possibility of contributing 20 million to the op-ed in that year in 2034 if we want to continue to spend the same amount that we spent in 2033 I think that's going to require you know substantially a larger discussion yeah um amongst the select board and various people anything else Dean nope John um yeah I'm just gonna ask do we know what the the op-ed balances in the reserve somewhere here it's 21.7 billioners of 2023 yeah I think it's right it's 23 million yeah but it's only yeah and if that's only 10 hundred there's no mandate on that action rejection right health insurance costs right let's go up down a lot okay right yeah any other questions right seeing none we have a motion for 805 and $5,000 to the pope have under article 59 so second all right all in favor say aye that's super cash article 63 the motion looks like eight million nine forty one nine thirty six yeah I move it okay plan is that enough I'm just reading off the five-year plan manager eight million nine four one nine three six basically nine million have we verified the uh certified free cash in September you might want to check I think that it was uh I'm assuming this is the certified amount 17 million eight eight three eight seventy two I'm assuming that's what the manager would have put well there's a motion that's been seconded any other questions all right um all in favor say aye we post update on the assessor article is that 21 senior citizen property tax exemption after meeting with us and has said that they're rethinking um going forward with that and so right now it's and so the limbo state right now so so you have anything else to just don't spend time thinking about it space basically so so um he should get back to him to me if they want to go forward it's not because I think there will be questions right so the town manager's coming in on Wednesday they'll talk about the other articles that we had questions about when we did our front review and it'll be available for any other questions you might have so I don't think you had anything else on Wednesday could I nope just um and then I'm yes well he can yes my trip on Boston yeah and he's aware of that um and then Monday is that's um we we have a busy night Monday we have water bodies and the conservation commission coming in first thing and then the community preservation act coming in after them followed by the scenic byway for their budget request and then a joint discussion with Arlington 250 the scenic byway and Arlington tourism and economic development commission talk about um the semi-continental and uh so it'll be a very busy night we've got article 52 the uh pension adjustment for former 25 year um to vote that every year sum of zero be appropriated um this is to allow adjustments in case um people who uh retire and then a certain number of years afterwards that their old jobs are now paying more are paying 50 50 percent um they would fall below 50 percent of what their current job would pay and this would allow the retirement board um to make adjustments we've never had to appropriate money but this is a place to do it so does everyone understand what we're doing with article 52 yes all right all in favor say aye all right any opposed i'm gonna abstain all right raise your hand in the affirmative one two seven fifteen in the affirmative any opposed one abstention so was it 1501 could we uh the harry barber community service article 51 vote no action on the grounds that we're going to put the money in the uh communities and committees and commissions we already voted 51 from rigid okay yeah did we vote no no because no they they have the tech so do we have any more information um on the human rights commission there are requests for 10 000 now yeah i want to join l and i where are we you can have speakers human rights i'd like to send you a call do you send me another update sorry i have i've been working all day what questions that i was gonna yeah but then i sent you a reply didn't i i didn't see that so we're not ready all right so we're not ready so maybe we can be ready once you're done what about about 55 we are not ready to be without yeah i think i think that's all we will do tonight what very many tech people so just getting some people bye