 Puff and a tail will get every left news special coverage will go to the north Robert's waft is near the Israeli 11 on border with the update from there Robert so in the last hour There's been three different incidents of what appear to be drones crossing from Lebanese territory into Israeli territory The first of these happened about 45 minutes ago in the far western end of Israel's northern border around the town of Shlomi It's understood that a drone was intercepted here and that there was also possibly rockets fired About five minutes after this incident. There was another possible drone infiltration This one taking place further to the east about the central point of Israel's northern border And then finally about 15 minutes ago. There was rocket sirens in the area where we are in the far eastern end of Israel's northern border We were moving by by road at the time and the sirens rang out So we had to jump out of the car and check what was going on around us with about five or six different communities In the area around us and having sirens going off warning of a possible aircraft infiltration Robert's way Thank you very much for that now to iPhone for news senior correspondent or alterman monitoring the government's Sitting tonight trying to decide on this hostage deal. What's the latest? Well, Jacob? It's now the seven o'clock hour here in Israel This is when the security cabinet that is the statutory body that is supposed to be in charge of security decisions Is supposed to start meeting and this presumably is when that narrower war cabinet that cabinet of three voting members and five Total members that includes the two observers as their meeting was supposed to be finished We haven't yet gotten word about how they voted of course presumably they support this deal They were in the room as the terms are being hashed out So it would be awfully strange if that forum were not to send it forward in green lighted presumably by By by unanimous vote, but then it would go to that security cabinet again a statutory body under Israeli law So they will need to green light it we'll see to what degree there's opposition there There we can expect that there will be because the leaders of the religious Zionism party the far-right religious Zionism party But so Smotrich and the far-right Jewish power party eat them are bengveer both part of that forum have said They'll come out and oppose this deal that as we mentioned a half an hour ago It's 6 30 local time and then of course at 8 o'clock It goes to the meeting of the full government of the full cabinet 30 plus ministers with a wide range of views Within this coalition government and they will need to give the final green light again under Israeli law They need to green light the freeing of Palestinian prisoners, which of course by all accounts is part of this deal again Up to 150 Palestinian prisoners women and juveniles reportedly none of them converted convicted of murder a very very important deal Detail rather so expecting to see to see that start in an hour from now at 8 o'clock local time I do want to go back Jacob very quickly to some of the discussion after what we discussed a half an hour ago in the studio Why it might be that there would be opposition to this deal first looking at the statements themselves from the religious Zionism party in the Jewish power party What are the things they mentioned first and foremost Concern about that five-day ceasefire that will halt the momentum of the Israeli military in the all-important goal of Eliminating Hamas and expose Israeli soldiers to dangers that actually is the most important point that both of these statements I think lead with only after that interestingly enough is opposition to the freeing of the Palestinian prisoners But it has to be said Overshadowing all of this is the specter of the Gilad Shalit deal I've been very clear in our air Jacob just how horrendous and how disastrous I think that decision was but it's important to say it's not just me Israel's public broadcaster last April last May last spring on the occasion of 70 75th anniversary Asked Israelis what they thought of that decision and 24 other decisions made over the course of Israeli's history Israel's history. Do you want to know what the numbers were? Only 25% of the Israeli public thinks that decision to free Gilad Shalit in exchange for more than a thousand Palestinian prisoners Was a good decision 25% saying good decision 75% saying a bad decision Jacob out of 25 decisions that were listed for those answering that poll This one came in 23rd place meaning it was the third least popular decision of 25 made over the course of Israel's history the specter of that deal Hangs over all other deals in the future although it has to be said and it's very very important This deal is not the Shalit deal the terms are very very different and the Circumstances are very very different and many people who bitterly opposed the Shalit deal will support this deal But again as for future deals over the course this war definitely a warning sign For decision-makers given the amount of opposition that we're going to see in the government meeting the cabinet meeting tonight Again far from a majority does not endanger this deal But raises questions about potential other future deals, which may be more sensitive, right? Thank you very much for this context Owen we're talking about civilians as you said it's a very different deal 50 of them and about a hundred and fifty prisoners From Israeli jails, it's a different entirely different deal Danny. I alone for our ambassador to the United States is with us Good evening. Good evening. How do you see this? Well, it's gut-wrenching, but this is the only choice we have because a human suffering has to stop This is a difference between a democracy a country which is you know For life for the livings and and other countries It's not good for Israel from a let's say from a strategic point of view But we also have to take I mean we have to take care of the human suffering as as you know first place Hamas is getting a Not only a good deal for themselves, but also a good I would say image and PR because what did they insist is that you know for their 50 What they release 50 or 53 Women and children they get 150 also women and children in their eyes, you know So it's like they put Israel on the same kind of moral equivalency as if we also jail Women and children although these women and children first of all no children. They're all over 16 But all of them were terrorists who were coming to kill the civilians But from the Hamas purpose, I think it's a very good deal Yeah, but still it's not the thousand plus of Shalit and Ford four to five days of ceasefire and the pressure in Israel is to release the hostages that's I'm sure this deal will get the approval of Israeli public. What do you say? Oh, there's no doubt about it I think that the only ones who may vote against it in the the cabinet are those who really an Unfortunately at this time are making trying to make political gains out of it. We saw that this Jewish power what's my you did bang your party? We saw how they brought in a very irresponsible way callous way. I would say yesterday the discussion of Death penalty for for terrorists, which is not not the time It's not the place to do it, but it seems like they work really for a very populistic Ideology and just try to gain some political momentum I hope this will not help them when it comes to the real time of the voting because they have shown total irrespective to human lives to our hostages over there and And at the end of the day they hurt Israeli, you know interests Is there is there a serious Reason to be worried about the Israeli military stopping for five days and maybe losing momentum Well, we should be very very cautious you recall Jacob that had our golden our Lieutenant who was actually killed in action and then his body was snatched kidnapped during 2014 operation was Few minutes after a ceasefire was declared So there always has that the issue of keeping alert and this is the job of the commanders on the field to make sure that The same tension You know operational tension is being kept Also when it comes to the ceasefire, whether it's four days or five days It will give the Hamas some chance to regroup, but also it will give our Forces on the ground to together more more intelligence to get to maybe more formations and you know to get some more Lessons learned in the battle for the next stage But there will have to be a next stage because if this war ends with Hamas leadership intact then It will be a major major strategic blow for Israel and for the region quite frankly Let me ask you as a diplomat. There's some breaking news that South Africa is breaking ties with Israel that that is after the ambassador in Jerusalem was Summoned by Israeli a foreign ministry What's happening between the two countries? I can tell you that the South African regime is one of the most corrupt in Africa and it's really Hard to be on top of of that list and they managed to be on that list the South African since The A&C the American National Congress Party took over They changed their Relationship with Israel totally because they were always I would say in in bed with the PLO with the arch terrorists Arafat who was a welcome visitor in Pretoria in South Africa During Mandela, which was the first leader relationship were quite cordial Mandela was the statesman But after him Jacob Zuma all the way down to the leaders of today They are I think just little politicians and not statesmen's they have brought their country to the verge of Economic and social collapse and the only reason Israel did not jump the gun and several relations with them is because of care of our Jewish community in South Africa The way that they did it now is just a matter of again them Siding with the most notorious and the most barbaric force today on the scene of the International community, which is Hamas ISIS Nazi like regime All right, stay with us Danny Moving to this many Israeli children are away from home because home is under shelling from Hamas or Hezbollah Now they have to maintain some sort of normalcy and I 24 years honor Rifkin as more on that I Israel's evacuated families of the south are trying to overcome the traumatic events of October 7th and the Instability, which followed at the same time They're in hotels biding time and seeking some sense of normalcy for their children One organization has taken up mission to help those families regain routine and stability by providing technology and innovation workshops And the idea is to give them to sing one is to give them the entertainment Unfortunately, they were after a very very difficult a very difficult experience We wanted to give them some fun experience, but also to bring them some kind of Window to what technology can bring we already did I went to 10 hotels and mostly 100 250 people come in each of our activity and now we're starting another activity, which is actually Units that are fixed. So instead of coming to an hotel once a week or once once every month We basically want to give these kids a real sense of education This is a debut community center event for Jerusalem youth to mingle with evacuated kids Families are encouraged to come from their hotels for some. This is their first time leaving hotel premises to socialize I With everything from virtual reality to 3d printing Video game programming and more this weekly workshop not only provides a sense of stability But also exposes them to new opportunities and skills. There's a big wow effect. They can see that they can actually Experience new technologies and for some of them to be honest, you know at the first few days There were people that didn't come out of the rooms in the hotel So it was really a way to bring them out of their, you know unfortunate situation Unfortunate experience. They were and bring them something that they can finally You know open up play Learn some new stuff. Seeing their creations come to life is an important component to the process. Dr. Modena says As is easing them into a new normal Noam and his cousins have high spirits I-24 news Yeah, back to the studio here with the ambassador Daniel on it will take a long time Danny For Israeli society to get back on track after what happened. Sure. Well, this is a wound Which will keep open for a long long time first and foremost because of the I Would say the enormity and the scope of the human sufferings. We're talking about hundreds of families That that were hurt. I hope and pray that Most if not all of the hostages that come back Will keep in a good form not just physically but also emotionally the emotional I think Hurting is is the hardest one to to overcome and this will stay with us for a long time also, they will always be a living memory to the I would say to the major failure of The military on the 7th of October who could not really protect them for long For so long and then of course there is the the concept which there is only one One authority which was responsible for this failed the dangerous concept and that was the Prime Minister and so now So those They they will come and they will be here and they will hunt him as well Politically until we will see here and I believe we will see here sooner than later the new elections Yeah, might might be so but we'll have to wait and see anything as possible with Israeli politics Let's talk with Family member of one of presumably a hostages in Gaza Omri steve is with us. Thank you very much for joining us Omri Hi, thank you. What do you know about your brother Idan at this point? and so we know history and All the process of his escaping from the party that went to the party at the 7th of October and You know, we just as everyone and tried to to escape from the party and they took with him another two friends In the car one of them couldn't drive. So he done took responsibility and drove for him. They Went tried to go back to Tel Aviv, but the master is start shooting them then he goes he turned to the to the other side and after Around four kilometers the Hamas stories also waited there start shooting them then he ran from the car and and Try to escape with the two friends, but they was murdered by Hamas and they done saw there another guy that he ran with him and Their last contact was around nine and This is what that's it. That's all we know. We are like in the Since then in the folk course the army trying to update us and Investigating right you're talking obviously about the Nova party where almost 400 people were murdered and the scores were kidnapped to Gaza now there is this deal and Apparently they're talking about children and mothers So if that happens that will not include your brother, what are your feelings about this deal? so actually now we are It's very very hard hours. We are very nervous from What's gonna happen, but we don't actually know Yesterday we met first all the The governments and the prime minister and all the others and and We don't know about the deal if there is a deal of course that this is what we can understand from the last hours updates, but I don't I don't know of course, it's something that Very hard for us to even to understand if it will be just babies and I don't know Here's women's so We are We are happy for them. Of course, we are happy for all the life that will be saved, but We are still waiting for him and then I just you know We we have our belief and we hope that everyone All that all that was just will be would be saved at the end But we hope that the process will be It would be fast They will be a still alive How is your family coping with this? So as I said, it's a it's a very very hard hours Everyone, you know and each one of us dealing with with this situation in other other ways different ways so For me, it's very very It's very hard and everything and and as well my parents and my sister and We are waiting for you know for for updates just trying to do What we can and if it's like, you know to talk with talk with people to take Talk with the people from the the government that talk with other diplomatics say they don't have double nationalities, so we sometimes speaking with the the Portuguese governments or people from there and And this is our activity with we're trying to stay in doing method So yeah Yeah, we can only imagine Omri, I thank you very much. I wish you all the best and I hope for good news. Thank you Thank you. Thank you Ambassador I alone I want to ask you Even if we do have this deal 50 50 some assages will be freed How will they keep this momentum? Afterwards when they're almost a hundred still there the 200 sorry almost 200 will be still be there in Gaza Well sinuars Goal is basically to Keep the ceasefire going as long as possible. So I believe that after we will see this deal of the first 50 Released then immediately there will be talk about Another bunch hopefully the rest of them But it will depend of course on And Sinuar how many really Sinuar still Has in his custody. Let's say that he would have another 150 or so then he will try to stretch and actually have them in in more batches for You know as many days as he can and a lot will depend on the Israeli response Well Israel will take it and continue the ceasefire, which would be very you know if it's if it the ceasefire goes too long it will be very difficult to resume the that the ground operations and we're coming into a winter and That's not very good conditions for the military to stay stationary in in the Gaza So the dilemma will be what do we do? Do we take this offer for a protracted deal over days? Maybe even weeks or resuming the ground operation with the hope that the ground operation May actually induce him to do a deal which will be the final Deal when the real military pressure will come very very next to him And he is probably in the southern part of Gaza in the Hanunas area, which we have not really gone into yet Yeah, that's exactly the dilemma of the Israeli government and the Israeli Military establishment what what to do and what happens if there is a forced ceasefire Now as we speak The cabinet is convening Do you Or can you imagine for us what is the debate like between whom and whom? In this room. I think that there is an agreement a wide agreement that this is a deal Which is not a good deal, but this is the only deal right now and if this is the only deal This is a necessary deal to do because first and foremost to really have a peace of mind To the families and of course to bring as many as possible hostages back home So I think there's going to be an overwhelming majority and of course we have the two populist Ministers Smotridge and Bengevier which have not revealed yet how they are going to to vote that they're going to oppose They already announced. Yeah, we're going to oppose but they should understand that You know according to the Israeli political Let's say the Constitution, you know as we call it And political culture if they vote no, it doesn't mean that they are exempt from the collective responsibility So if they're serious about it, you say they should resign, but that's exactly Yeah, exactly. Do we have Jonathan Regev in the south? our defense correspondent in Near the Israeli Gaza border Jonathan, we are with you with the update from there Yes, I have to say that the last hour or so has been a relatively quiet We've not seen a lot of a scene or heard a lot of artillery in Gaza And following that a rocket Those rockets that were fired towards central Israel reaching as far as Rishon Etzion No other rockets on this area. I think a very big expectation on both sides I have to say a for what may come next which is a possibly that a Hostage deal that you've been speaking about I think if we look overall at what happened here on the border in the past Five six hours we're seeing a bit less of activity than we've seen over the past a few days Of course, no one is really mentioning it mentioning it and then probably no one will speak about it officially But if there is some kind of a not ceasefire, but perhaps lowering the level of fire Then it it may have already begun as as we're seeing less activity on both sides in the past few hours All right, Jonathan. Thank you very much for that the update from the south We'll take a short break and we'll be right back with more special coverage here at night 24 news at the end In a state of war families completely done down in their beds We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well Ten moments for families of hostages in Israel. I 24 news Nicole said it is with some of them in Tel Aviv, Nicole Yes, Jacob. We're here at the the Tel Aviv hostage square really That's what this area has been renamed in the past several weeks now behind me here you can see some some singers coming together doing a a Contribution a tribute to the hostages that remain held captive in Gaza 46 days the people surrounding here It's been a very very anxious time for them as we await the the news of a possible Hostage deal and what it could mean for the families that are here that have been day after day coming out here Going straight to the government even with their concerns saying for 46 days now our loved ones have been held hostage in Gaza How has this continued so with the news of a possible hostage deal? There's definitely a tense anticipation and an anxious feeling in the air But it's complicated because with the reports that we're seeing the the deal would constitute of about 50 Hossages being released mainly men or mainly children and their mothers and women But for the rest we know about 240 Hossages 50 is just a small percentage of that and so many of the families here It's an anxious waiting game. Is it going to be their loved ones? That's released Are they going to continue to come out here and voice their their There are just their their feelings to the government continuing to a fight for the hostages that will remain captive in Gaza It's a very complicated situation and we're you're speaking to people here on the ground It is very heavy and although any hostages released are going to be warmly welcomed with open arms We do have to remember that this is just a sliver of the people who are in Gaza right now And for the majority of the people who are out here They say that they will continue to show their their support and raise their voices for every single one of the Hostages until every single one of them is released So definitely a tense time out here But everyone is anxiously and hopefully looking into exactly what these next few hours are going to entail right next few days actually because It's my understanding that names will come out slowly even over days And you can only imagine what these people will go through Do they talk about it over there? Do you think they are embracing themselves for very very tough few days? Absolutely, I mean they've been bracing themselves for the past 46 days So so what's to come is just going to be as difficult as as in their words that has been coming So so although it's going to be incredibly difficult and you're going to be waiting on pins and needles especially as you said over the next couple of days unfortunately this type of Psychological waiting game is something that these families have been dealing with for 46 days And so as this news hopefully becomes comes to fruition and we do actually see something come from these Negotiations something else that we're hearing from many of the people is that we'll wait until we see it We'll believe the reports when I finally hug my loved one that has been held hostage for more than a month now So until that really happens. We continue to see this truly anxious waiting game from the families here So as you said, it's not just these overnight hours when we hopefully have a decision from the government But even after we see that decision, it's going to be then even more anxiety as these families wonder Is it going to be the person who I haven't seen or is it going to be someone else? And and what exactly are we going to continue to learn from many of the people who are Released and so it's very complicated But for the families out here, especially at hostage square as I said, they're going to continue to come out here continue to show There's their support and their concern to the government until they see every single hostage return home Nicole thank you very much for that Unbelievable times really so hard for so many people. Thank you very much for this report Joining me here in the studio now are Michael Arizanti a political analyst and human rights advocate and India's mirror Political analyst. Yeah, yeah, yeah Pakistani journalist And the TV person over there as well. So you feel at home here and to in a TV studio. All right, you are both part of a Sharca delegation, you know here in Israel quite an interesting Period of time to visit Israel. What have you learned? Learn about the history of modern sign is the history of Jewish people overall We have learned about Palestinian politics Today we have experienced ritual reality with videos from Effects and aftermath of Hamas terrorists And we also spend quite a long time in the hostage square meeting with the without his families. Yes How was the impression of that Me personally was deeply affected because I Worked a long time also with with the Kurds. I'm married to a Kurd So I have a lot of friends and family members But you're either been killed by terrorists or killed by during fighting terrorists Being at the hostage square today, it reminded me open up a lot of wounds but I was also inspired about the spirit I could Experience there how they how they were griefing with songs And Giving each other a love and It was very inspirational Let me ask you as a journalist Do you feel that you are now maybe better equipped to tell the story to the Pakistani audience? Oh, thank you very much Yeah, thank you very much. I'm thankful to you and your channel and I'm thankful to Sharaka. I'm here I experienced a lot of things Those family hostage family. They're pleading. They are requesting for the return of the loved ones This is say Hamas is the same as like a talban This is the same mentality. This is say same mindset This is a this is a terrorist organizations. They're the talban had a take so many times in Pakistan And in innocent people they are same like I think the innocent people after Jews people Jews people aren't the very peaceful people. I talk so many Families they said that we want a peace. We want a peace in the region But there is there is a lot of things in a common. I compare to Pakistan and and israeli There are a lot of things one thing's a player in the in the Muslim world. They are as anger is increasing, but there's a few things up mix up Palestine people is a different Hamas is a different Hamas is a using Palestinian people as a human shield. They play the victim card and media international media International media is a very much a biased media Especially in the Muslim world They they show the one side picture, but I'm here to spread the truth and reality what I have seen What I'm talking to the peoples They they they are very much innocent people. They are targeting. They are massacred They are the very tragic moments because I have experience in Pakistan so many things extremism fundamentalism There's a there's no religion of any terrorist Terrorist is a terrorist Terrorist is a criminal is a criminal. There's a no space in Islam, especially any terrorist organizations There's also proxies. There is a Iran is a backing Iran is also backing in a few organizations in Pakistan We face these things same here same in Pakistan My message for the people of the israelis my message from the pakistani peoples the israeli peoples are very very positive They they they think about the positive things. They want a regional peace They want they don't want a regional conflict, but there are so many players This is a you know, this is a Palestine land is is is a is a breeding ground is a breeding ground a terrorist So many countries play the proxies are here to support the hezbollah and the is and the ish And and terrorist organizations others are and Hamas. These are all terrorist organization We have a single out these terrorist organizations It's interesting that you take this to what you have in your neighborhood like taliban and so on but I want to ask you Michael So Is is do you feel or is it true in your eyes that israel has a problem? Telling its story to the world the world to understand what's going on here. It has a huge problem actually, frankly quite shocked especially With european mass media The main main narrative that you're pushing out is coming out of Gaza health ministry and Then it don't even mention it's controlled by Hamas so What the mass media is feeding the people is actually a Hamas narrative and During this time and age, I think that's Not only dangerous For jews and israelis. It is also very dangerous for Europe. We have just witnessed tens of thousands Been muslims been radicalized and joined isis So they have to be a little bit careful and a little bit more fact-based Is there anything positive that you've seen here that maybe you'll take with you? There are so many things. There are so many sense. Hamas is not very presenting Islam. Hamas is not very presenting muslims They are not our leaders. They are not leaders of muslims They are they are they are terrorists. They should be treated them as a terrorist But the two different things are very important in the israeli. I have observed I have met with so many intellectuals. I have different intellectuals and other jewish intellectuals In arab intellectuals. I've met them. They said that The the the future of palestine people is based on a peace And a coexistence coexistence. It's a very important. This is an internal issue of israel. This is not a regional conflict It is not international conflict. People are pushing this. Pushing this. This is an international relation So many processions and a protest in pakistan But they are very much limited Tiny protest majority of muslims Sympathy pakistanis are sympathy and condemn this attack Hamas did against the anusid people. There is no place. There is no place. There is no space because we are victims Of this terror this terrorism this fundamental. We are experiencing we are facing These situations in pakistan my message my message the message of love my message a message of peace We should we should we should support the peace some countries like iran the president First time first time here mac with the crown prince first time after this conflict He's using this card the how to how to how to fill the gap between sahudi and and iran Because they are the beneficiary of this conflict. They they get the benefits of this so many countries Up they are the benefits of this other thing is the abram accord. It is a very very much important It is the blow to the this accord. They don't want the normalization ties with sahudiya And sahudiya if you come close to israel, it will be it will be the better father This region it will be better father entire muslim world Yeah, so that's not alone. Maybe it's something good can come out of all of this, huh? Hopefully, you know, uh, they say that the darkest time of day is just before dawn When the sun breaks out. So hopefully something will come good will come out of it and uh, uh, basically You know the understanding that the only coexistence is the basis for stability for peace for prosperity here In the middle east and I do hope That hamas does not really represent the palestinian people And that the palestinians will understand that actually this brutality this savagery Is doing them a great great disservice like they have been fooled By so many successive generations of leaders for the last 120 years At this point, I'd like to thank you very much gentlemen for coming. Thank you. Enjoy your time in israel. Thank you very much Now, uh to the humanitarian corridor in gaza, which is seeing hundreds and thousands of palestinians fleeing The fighting more in the next report The mercava tank has not yet cleared the route and thousands of gossians are already rushing forward heading south Trying to flee the war This humanitarian corridor is open for several hours every day But there is one moment when the heart stops beating and the breath really stops This happens when the intelligence personnel switch to hebru Well, do you have a jeep? Are you responsible for letting us in or also taking us out? I also get you out. So this is the right jeep getting you safely home. Yeah We started on the road into the gaza strip this morning from the burned houses of kibbutz baeri Through the idf positions scattered in everywhere Until we reached the fence a moment later. You can already see the destroyed villages Hear the shooting up close and especially smell the battle from here on does the smell get better or worse It depends if you get used to it. Yeah, have you gotten used to it? We get used to everything at the beginning of the trip a report was received of sniper fire on the humanitarian crossing And we were forced to stop It's close Yeah, about a hundred meters Last night the jerusalem brigade cleared the area and raided the building you see here in front of us It looks like an innocent house, but when you go in it's not so innocent All of the people who were here were not innocent and during the entire attack here There were no civilians and everyone who was here were terrorists And until the crossing opens we managed to find a coffee cart in the area. What do you have to offer? Approximately how many girls are there in gaza? Wow, I have no idea how to answer this question I meant some female fighters. How many female fighters? I can tell you some me and two others right now scary Scary tense, but but okay Mom and dad know Yes, sure. What did they say? You know, it's hints. It's not it's not like mom dad I'm entering gaza today because then they would just stop me. It was like this I'm getting off standby and they understood And after a long hour the signal was given With the idf's ground entry into the northern gaza strip leaflets were distributed calling on uninvolved civilians to leave and move south through the humanitarian corridor near zaytun And since then thousands have arrived at this point every morning waiting for their turn while the fighting continues all around What happened shooting this is an attack hours Yeah, every day more and more civilians are evacuated here, which leaves gaza only with terrorists It allows us to fight them freely without restrictions We're fighting there is the more the forces go inside Then there's a larger evacuation of the population This is part of locating prisoners and missing persons We're trying to make sure that the prisoners and missing persons are not being smuggled here That is why sometimes they speak Hebrew to call the prisoners and missing persons the flow of refugees to the south continues But everything is under review under control a strict verification and most of the steps can't be documented Is there pity sometimes or pity for whom for every human being I think is merciful everyone has their own threshold of mercy And I don't mean that everyone deserves it. They live in an unpleasant environment their fault not their fault. That's another question It's filmed something to tell my parents that i'm fine. I don't know Mom dad everything is fine. I'm fine sasha everything is fine and it will be fine How does it feel here interesting the situation is not easy, but we are strong That's the most important thing strong in a mission And on the way out it was hard to miss the battalion commander the poet and his entry video to gaza In the fires of war in the burning of the fire among stormy days of blood I'm turning on my little flashlight to search to search for a human being We will win as human beings. I told my soldiers as I said to them We are better than our enemy in how we fight in quality and in humanity and morality. That's how we win That's inside gaza many israelis volunteered these days and with us now is daniel gindis the director of karem house. Thank you for coming happy to be here How do you help them to help others? so I would say that from our perspective what we do at karem house among community activities and volunteering ourselves Is finding volunteer opportunities which we post every day on the karem house story on instagram and facebook So people who want to volunteer for the specific things that are offered can do so people can cook people can teach yoga people can drive Many many different opportunities, which we look for daily. So you're coordinating all these volunteering Yes actions now. So give me some examples. What do people do these days? oh boy Someone of the bigger ones is cooking. There are a few different kitchens. They're citrus and salt and j 17 Which make two to three thousand meals a day for displaced people and for soldiers there is There's j l i c with our by joe wilson and yakar and tele-international synagogue that are doing First of all, they're picking agriculture. We're really helping with the agriculture like Achim la mesheck like those kind of things We have activities for displaced people in tele-international. There's over 10,000 of them saturday night activities concerts Performances we have dog walking doggy sitting is really really popular People are instant walking dogs for soldiers and people who can't So much more now You need Quite a lot of money to do all of this. This is all on a volunteering base So I would say the the story of how we started with the volunteering is Myself and some other people we were running for city council with deput mayor haim goren for the gav party And suddenly the situation caught everyone here by surprise We're like, what can we do to redirect these efforts? So the first thing like in the the video you see here people ran to kikar disengoff just bringing things shopping carts Full of whatever they could find the supermarket Eventually that moved to hangar 11 and then it moved to the expo But some of the things that ran out initially were the donations if anyone has uh money they want to donate There are plenty of good causes But what people want to do is help people really wanted to contribute And we find that the amount of initiative individuals who want to do things is huge We get anywhere from like 40 to 100 plus messages a day of new people Trying to volunteer people from out of the country say we're coming israel november in december. We want to help. What can we do? For number one thing they're looking for usually is accommodation So, uh, but there are many people who just want to give with their hands people don't have money necessary to give But they have time and they're willing to do so And they are And uh any help from the government? I don't know how to reach a government if they want to give us help They can message us we'll be very happy We have lots of able volunteers people we contribute to diplomacy initiatives online writing translating They haven't reached out to us. I'm sure hopefully they are doing a lot that we don't know about but we're very much televieve individual grassroots level demographics I would say it's mostly young people for like 20s and 30s, but not limited to I'd say probably 30 percent of our volunteers are 40s 50s plus people with cars people with children who take time off to help to help cook to help Move things to help babysit a dog a child fix up a shelter pensioners as well A few have but to do that you would need to see our our instagram We're on facebook, but we've had a few people as well. Oh, so tell me how to contact you So the way that you can follow what we do is caram house on instagram or like our house k e r e m house We also have events on our website in general when it's not uh, you know a situation like this We do community activities Very grassroots and televieve in druselman and other places, but for caram house televieve We're very motivated that everyone in televieve can find a volunteering opportunity every day that they want to We post daily our stories of the volunteer opportunities that are coming up And if you have things for the volunteer at we have many people who want to volunteer contact us They would love to do that. That's great. What about the demand side? How do you know? We know what's the demand? So for the demand I would say initially there was a lot of demand every organization is posting There was october 17th the website who wanted translations of the stories That was the number one thing by the way for us that got maxed out was translation First english to hebrew hebrew to english and then it changed to Other languages, but people wrote in they really wanted to help and get get the story out and eventually they said We're just not getting the same kind of responses But there are some things which constantly need help new people are arriving from the north and south So you'd elevy 48 they could definitely use the help Cooking constantly need for cooking signing up in advance And sometimes we'll call the people with the demand like just today. I called Victoria from israel delivery aid and I said hey, we're sending you drivers things are good. She's like, yeah, we need even more So we check in with those Periodically every few days to see that things are moving along sometimes the kitchen closes Sometimes they go to a larger space But that's our job like our work on our end is finding the volunteer opportunities So people who want to volunteer can do so all right daniel. Thank you for much and good luck with that Thank you for having me. Thank you This is it for now stay tuned for more special coverage with benita levine tonight. Have a good night from telev Gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front line But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well An agreement taking place and we are now at the closest point we ever have been in reaching and an agreement This is breaking news edition I'm benita levine israel's cabinet is set to meet shortly on an apparent deal to release Dozens of hostages held by chamas in gaza for more than six weeks now It's going to vote on that deal soon a deal that could see the release of some of the 236 hostages abducted from their homes or from a music festival During that terror rampage in southern israel on the 7th of october the hostages include 38 children Baby kfir bibas is now 10 months old and there could well be a newborn baby too Born to a Thai woman in captivity the eldest hostages are in their 80s Their condition is still not clear Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is saying in recent hours they are making progress on a deal Qatar could make an announcement soon The deal is said to involve a pause in fighting in Gaza for four days And now let's find out what is happening on the ground We cross first to our correspondent Robert Swift and he joins us from northern israel and rob There were sirens in the north indicating a hostile aircraft above Red alert sirens in shlomi roshani cried or wave and surrounds earlier in the evening local time. What is the latest update right now? So in the last hour the israeli military has said that it has conducted strikes against hezbollah positions and compounds and this comes in response to three separate incidences of drone infiltrations The first of these about Two hours ago took place in the far western end of israel's northern border And that was followed a few minutes later by a second incident in around the central area of israel's northern border Now the first of these two events That is understood that that was also supported by Some form of rocket or mortar attack From hezbollah and the israeli military has confirmed it shot down the drone in that incident Now a few about an hour ago just an hour and 15 minutes ago A third incident took place with Additional drone crossing into the far eastern end of israel's northern border And this comes on the back of a day which has seen a series of exchanges of attacks between hezbollah and israel With israel conducting a number of airstrikes inside southern lebanon Including killing a senior chamas commander who was responsible for chamas operations in the south of lebanese territory Thank you so much. We will be coming back to you for regular updates for now Thank you to our correspondent robert swift in northern israel. Thank you And still with our focus on that hostage deal Let's take a closer look at what is being discussed the release of 53 hostages children and their mothers 10 hostages will be released every day a ceasefire will be in place for four days And 150 palestinian prisoners will be released mainly women and minors now other details include IDF drone activity will be suspended for six hours during the ceasefire The hostages will be transferred to egypt through the rafa crossing and from there onto israel And chamas will be obliged to give israel the names of the hostages said to be released a day in advance Soldiers men and those bodies of those killed will not be released at this time foreign hostages and the elderly May be released during the ceasefire now in recent hours benjamin netanyahu saying they are making progress We are currently focusing on a very strong and active defense in the north In order to achieve a crushing victory in the south Our first objective annihilating kamas we will not stop until it is done Second objective bringing the hostages back We're making progress. I don't think we should go into details at this time But hopefully we'll have good news soon The third objective To ensure that what happened in gaza will not happen again We want to regain security and we will operate and restore security in the south and in the north And the main instrument we have is the israeli spirit That is manifested here through the soldiers and commanders coming from all parts of israel And from all sectors of israeli society It's an amazing force and i salute you and tell you we will continue until we achieve victory And again the israeli cabinet is set to meet shortly too to discuss the details of that deal right now We welcome to studio avipa snare former israeli ambassador to france and italy and the former world chairman of karen Hayasod united israel appeal Dr. David shimoni former intelligence official and commanders for israel's security and our senior Correspondent oan ultiman gentlemen. Thank you all for being with us here in studio the heart of the nation waiting for word We know that meetings are underway But oan i want to start with you specifically on the process right now because it could take a while before Confirmation is heard in the country. That's right benita and it is confusing Especially to people outside israel but also to some of us inside israel as well To make it simple three separate bodies voting on this deal the war cabinet the narrow war cabinet That's the first the security cabinet or if you will statutory security cabinet That's number two and then the full government or if you will in in the parlance abroad the full cabinet So the war cabinet the security cabinet the full cabinet What do we mean first the war cabinet established for the purposes of managing this war Established when benny gonson went into the government that first week or two of the war Five members three vote two observers that body Involved in negotiating this deal benita They've already wrapped up their work and passed the baton to who's now meeting which is the security cabinet set up under israeli Law israeli statute to be involved in managing a war such as this one They are meeting as we speak some of those members have already announced they're going to come out against this deal Betzel smotrich the finance minister head of the real designism party itamar bengevier national security minister head of the jewish power party Have already announced they're going to be opposing this also gi don sar of benny gonson's national unity party Saying he's going to wait and see until he understands and hears all of the details So at least in the room of where people are meeting right now there will be some opposition Though again, it doesn't change the result There is going to be a majority in the security cabinet and also in the third step right the full government the full cabinet 30 plus ministers variety of political opinions from a huge assortment of parties There too, there will be opposition both the jewish power party and now and religious Zionism party those two far-right parties led by itamar bengevier and betzel smotrich Respectively announcing they're going to come out against it other parties such as the ultra orthodox schaas party going to be for it At any rate this is going to pass But it is going to pass with a not with a With a not immaterial Amount of opposition there is going to be a meaningful number Is going to be a meaningful number of ministers who vote against this from those far-right parties And also benita we can say anecdotally looking at social media and other reports There is actually maybe a surprising amount of opposition to this deal from large parts of the israeli right Maybe not only the constituents of those parties will not endanger this deal But there i think our questions and maybe warning signs for future deals And while we are speaking oan on our screens We are seeing live images in tel aviv the families and communities waiting for answers are taking a stand there We will be going there live very shortly But avi i want your take on the reports that we're hearing right now And as oan is explaining it could be a while before we get official confirmation But so much has been made about all hostages or none And now we're hearing women and children probably around 53 hostages your take On what israel needs to do to secure the release of these people Yeah, thank you benita First of all, we have to understand that even if and when the israeli government approved the deal Still we have an unreliable partner the chamas And we are not immune for For surprises of the last minute, okay So i trust that the israeli government will approve the deal As oan said there will be opposition, but the deal will pass I hope that the chamas will Also Allow the deal to go forward and then we will have a period of intense Tension without shooting hopefully But every day we will have to wait until the 10 or 12 Hostages be released through egypt and every day there will be the question Is the ceasefire really for four or five days? Or maybe the chamas will play other games and say, okay If you give us two or three more days, we give us we give you 20 30 hostages Those will be 10 states and then there is also a big question that nobody has put on the table now What happens on the northern border? Will the fighting with his bala continue? Is that part of the deal without anybody saying anything? I I I don't know. I simply don't know but you see that the situation is escalating on the northern border And there is no answer to that Dr. Shimoni your take given your security and intelligence background on exactly what we are discussing right now The security concerns and risks right now as details of this deal emerge Sure. First of all, we're all ignorant to the exact details of the of the deal And the timetables and names and names of the prisoners that will be exchanged From a intelligence point of view Having a 50 something hostages released That's a gain of intelligence because Although many of them will be children and women or quite ignorant of what's happening We will be able to form a better picture of what's happening there And who is still there and how many of them maybe have died in captivity or were executed In captivity, so we will get quite a lot of information Not full information, but it will clarify a lot of the of the Mystery around what's happening there Also the burden on the Intelligence community will be less because each one of these hostages has a team Working on an intelligence officer an analyzer a psychologist a doctor There are many people that are involved and we will be able to have more effort on those remaining In captivity regarding the security question As far as we know The military and the entire intelligence community supports this deal Which means they say they can bear the consequences The military says if we have ceasefire for partial ceasefire limitations on reconnaissance flights we can We can still continue with our mission once we get the order to Continue as far as these soldiers are concerned We're talking about the Hamas regrouping and reorganizing But it's same for the idea if if we can bring supplies with less danger to the Trucks and and vehicles that are bringing supplies. That's also a blessing for us. There's also an advantage for us So I say overall and again, we don't know the details We don't know the exact discussions that are taking place now at the government and all levels that Owen just mentioned but We believe that the Israeli army and the intelligence community can bear with this Deal and maybe even benefit from it gentlemen We're going to discuss much more on all these fronts But right now let's go to Tel Aviv and our correspondent Nicole Zedek joins us from a site now known as hostage Square so we're talking here in studio Nicole about the angst and the emotions the families must be going Through waiting for updates on this hostage deal. What is happening where you are? It's definitely an anxious time and you can you can feel it in the energy all throughout this hostage square Where everywhere you walk there is a different memorabilia a different show of support a different piece of artwork Representing the hostages and it's continued to grow over the past 46 days and now with this news that that the hostage negotiation a hostage deal couldn't truly be coming to fruition It's it's an anxious feeling but also a somber feeling because although the report state possibly 50 women and children might be released and all of those hostages are going to be welcomed with open arms and and That's certainly something that the the hostages and missing families form continues to reiterate However until every single one of them is returned home until this entire Shabbat table continues to see people Every single one of these seats are filled once again That is when we will stop feeling this this anxious feeling for every single one of those family members So with these reports it continues to really play also into the psychological Dilemma and and really the the waiting game that these families have been seeing for the past 46 days now Because even as we go into these overnight hours and as the government is meeting and discussing this hostage deal It might be still more days until even any of the family members know if it's their loved one that is being released So so tonight is just the beginning and I can't even say it's the beginning because for the past 46 days These families have been anxiously waiting But with this news tonight, there's something different in the air and the waiting game is is a little bit more intense Because they're waiting to find out if their loved one is on that list of people who might be released in the coming days Cannot imagine what they are going through certainly everybody hoping To hear that there is some kind of news. We will be updating Everybody as that all becomes available for now. Thank you so much to our correspondent Nicole Zedek Updating us live from Tel Aviv and from Tel Aviv. We go to the south Let's check in with our senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev and he joins us from close to Storot And Jonathan rocket siren sounding in Ashkelon in recent hours. Also, we know fighting and tensifying Inside the Gaza Strip. What updates can you share on either side in southern Israel and inside Gaza right now? That is correct. But if if I judge this entire afternoon Benita, it has been perhaps a little bit more quiet Then in previous days, I was at this same location where I am just outside of Storot On sunday two days ago, and then it was complete mayhem Lots of artillery sounding And and it's a different story today. I'm not going to say it's quiet It's far from being quiet and we have seen sirens in in Ashkelon and in further inland up until Rishon let's see on just south of Tel Aviv But all together this day Has been more quiet both in terms of sirens and in terms of artillery up until this point Is this related to the the negotiations regarding a ceasefire hostage deal? Perhaps we don't know all of these talks are are quite a secret We we do not have a lot of information regarding that but all together This evening in Storot at least so far has been more quiet than than previous days Whether it's all connected to the hostages or not, of course, we don't really know Jonathan they were reports that the grandson of Hamas Lidesh Melchania had been killed in an Israeli strike in Gaza Any confirmation and if that is in fact the case talk us through the impact and the implications I First there's no confirmation. I don't think that israel is israel is aware of every every fatality in Gaza Unless it's a targeted killing. I don't know that the the the grandson of of Ismail Ania was specifically the target of an assassination Implications, I'm not sure that there are any at this at this case Of course in in a different kind of war that perhaps could have some implications such as senior Official losing a family member but in a war such as this such as this this one all in and and The entire Gaza Strip under heavy fire and and a large Israeli ground offensive. I'm not sure it has them a lot of implications Thank you very much for now That's our senior defense correspondent Jonathan reggae live from southern israel more to come from Jonathan in the coming hours And we are also expecting to hear later from Daniel Hagaari the idea of spokesperson for his Regular briefing if and when that does happen. We will of course bring that to you live right now I want to go back to our panel in studio and dr. Shimoni. I want to pick up on the plight of the hostages if in fact And certainly the nation is hoping that Upwards of 50 people women and children could be released soon talk us through the process Then what actually happens over and above the reports that they will be transported Through egypt and the rafa crossing talk us through what happens to them once they do hopefully and our stress Hopefully get home There's a mixture of Interests here because uh, first of all, of course, we would like to unite them with their families We would like their relatives to be to be around but we would also like to First of all assess their condition their medical condition the psychological condition which which means they will be met by Experts by doctors maybe a psychiatrist Who will try to to debrief them and ask them about their condition and and Establish what what condition they are and also as I mentioned before we would like to see what kind of Intelligence useful intelligence immediate intelligence Can be gathered from these people which means they will be separated for a while From their families again after they hug and kiss and cry and and Photograph and do selfies whatever they have everybody does now But yes, we they will have to be Debriefed and questioned about their condition about people that they know about that were not released Where are they how are they if they know of anybody else who was around them who died was executed who is well So there'll be a lot of a lot of uh debriefing So I believe most of them For a few days will be moving either between their homes and some Hotel some some facility where they can rest be medically examined talk to uh experts both the medical psychology and intelligence that's that's what Expected for them Okay, I want to bring you in here because it is just unfathomable to think that over and above being held by a terror Organization in tunnels or potentially scattered across the Gaza Strip There has been no confirmation in more than six weeks from the Red Cross or any other body To the fact that they are even alive And so compounding the trauma that we are describing right now is the fact that families may in fact find out that They love ones are not okay And that just seems Abhorrent over and above the fact that of course they're being held hostage by a terror organization How is that possible in 2023 that there was no Access given or that the human rights organizations or health organizations so-called couldn't get that basic information For the families after six weeks Benita, I think the those human organizations and especially the red cross Did not pressure too much to Hamas. I mean, you know, I must tell you when you Mentioned the red cross. I can remember world war two And you know the red cross did very little to really try to learn what is happening to the jews in world war two You know that the german put terezenstadt A camp for the red cross to visit every six months. They would visit terezenstadt There was music and good food and I'm going to stop you right now because the idea of spokesperson daniel higari is about to speak. Let's take a listen Good evening At the beginning of this evening. First of all, we have to say We have an ethical commitment to the security of the hostages And to bring them home to their families Our hearts With the hostages in gaza men women children and elderly among them also idf soldiers Who were abducted by a cruel organization? And held in gaza, we shall do everything possible to bring them back as fast as possible The chief of staff evaluated today with the reservists It's within the gaza strip and he said to them that the ground operation brings achievements But the road is still long and we shall continue to pressure hamas until we obtain The goals of the war among them of course bringing the hostages back We will update the families with any information we have about their loved ones and later on the public through the media Anything that has to do with this subject. I suggest to listen I recommend to listen to reports from only official Factors we shall report the truth to the public when we have the details and the facts when they will be in our hands We shall report During the day the idf continued to obtain achievements in gaza. We encircled the jabalia We also completed and deepened the the war in the zaytun compound the forces Exposed terrorists and we are prevailing We will continue to eliminate the terrorists of khabas no matter where they are today as well We continued to expose the underground infrastructure of hamas under the shefa hospital and we shall do so with additional hospitals They built a methodical infrastructure and they use patients and doctors as human shields Human shields for terrorist activity. This is a war crime Against the international law and we shall continue to expose this to the world in order to dismantle this method In the north we eliminated a few anti tank units who try to launch anti tank Missiles from the border to israel We eliminate every threat because that area In the border is a war zone out of it. Sheba Zala is Implementing terror and violates all these the the un resolutions They act from south of lebanon in urbanized areas and risks citizens. We also attacked Weapons and the army base of his bala and this is in reaction To a shooting that his bala did to urban areas in the north. We have no casualties We are in complete readiness in the north in offense and defense In the home front. We keep updating the directors. Please listen to the directives their life saving until now we announced To the families of 390 soldiers who fell in battle of defending israel We are embracing the families in this very difficult hours and we shall continue to do so any questions Channel 13 if we're talking about the hostage deal What about the risk of abducting soldiers and also jeopardizing the soldiers and what happens if hamas breaks the deal There is advancement Regarding the outline of the hostage deal. It has to be finalized by the government We are now focusing on the fighting here in the IDF We will know how to prepare in such a way that will preserve our Operational achievements and also the outline that will be finalized. I suggest to wait until things are finalized Before the finalized they're not final And it might be a long way. I hope not but you never know How will we know what's happening in Gaza While our drones are not going to be in the sky If we're talking about a ceasefire again, I repeat what I said These are very important questions with a lot of details. There is an outline We try to implement it the IDF Will be able to abide by any agreement any finalization. This is a long war with a lot of stages This outline as well will have stages. We're talking about a long war and we have goals and objectives in order to Live up to these objectives. The road is long. So we will know how to preserve our achievements and also to prepare ourselves for the next stages IDF spokesperson Daniel Higari delivering his latest briefing updating the nation on the latest Developments and we are going to pick up where we left off before the briefing But first I want to come to Owen because Daniel Higari has covered a range of bases in his very short briefing The north the south and of course the hostages top of mind What stood out for you? Well, first of all at this It's seemingly simultaneous with Lee with this briefing Benito releasing to Israeli media Pictures of the tunnels under chief of hospital. This is crucially important, right? This is the core front if you will for the IDF spokesperson's office, right establishing to the satisfaction of international media Exactly what was under that hospital? I think the spokesperson's unit to date Has established to international media satisfaction at least those are willing to listen right that there was military activity in and under the hospital But that's not going to be enough Right because the bar was set very high both by the military itself And also by international public opinion that if you're acting in the biggest hospital in the Gaza Strip Let alone in the middle of a war that it has to be a military target of utmost importance in the middle And the IDF said that it was essentially Hamas's pentagon that was under the hospital That has not yet been proven the military said give us time. It's complicated. We need time to look We need time to do it safely so far the international media is waiting and suspending judgment This may be another step in that long slog if you will that the spokesperson's unit is taking the journalists along So let's wait to see if he gives that information in English and how he presents it. So that's number one As for what we heard first of all an update on the fighting in Gaza not unimportantly, right? The military is succeeding and encircling two major neighborhoods in Gaza city as we may be on the eve of a ceasefire, right? The Jabali neighborhood there's a two neighborhood where there had been severe clashes and battles So that's an important update and in the north Hinting at the the report from the other side of the border in Lebanon that the Israeli military had killed civilians Including journalists affiliated with a pro hisbola or his bula television channel essentially saying his ball is acting from urban areas so There may be civilian casualties Even if that's not the intent of the IDF activity the IDF is not targeting civilians and at any rate Daniel Higari saying that was in that was in response to his bula itself Targeting targeting civilians on the Israeli side of the border so any of course deflecting questions about the hostage deal saying It's not finished There's only an outline and we're not commenting on anything until it's a done deal Certainly to be expected from a military spokesperson those questions in most cases better directed to the political echelon in any case Although there were a few questions about how the military manages the day after the deal But again Higari not ready to really give much of an answer on those But he did mention of course the ethical obligation Aviv for israel to make sure that the hostages are freed and was something we were talking about earlier The fact that there isn't confirmation official confirmation as to how many of the hostages are in fact alive Obviously those names according to the reports around the deal will be released a day ahead of 10 people being released Each day it's complicated. What do you make? What is your take on the fact that there are families right now? Who actually don't even know if their loved ones are okay or not? It's a terrible feeling I wouldn't like to be at the place of these families But I as I understand it one of the conditions of the deal was that all the hostages be Israeli and alive because you know there are foreign hostages And regretfully There might be some Dead hostages as we discovered at the chief hospital two bodies of two women, which were assassinated by Hamas But again, why do we lack information? It is because the red cross and other Institution of the un are not doing their job and I can say that in general The question of the Israeli hostages is marginalized Outside Israel you you hear a little bit I know for example in france when macron speaks about hostages. He speaks about eight French hostages french israeli hostages The problem is not in the mind of the people the problem is in the mind of every israeli Outside israeli. It is very difficult to find a part maybe of biden who relates to it regularly He had a few minutes ago another optimistic remark But the problem of the hostages is being pushed aside and it is our job. I believe To sensibilize the world public opinion about this problem and to take journalists Not only to see the tunnels which is extremely important But to see the family of the hostages to help them express Their sorrow their pain that we all feel together and I hope that in the next few days At least some of them will feel relieved at least some of them and I hope the maximum of them Dr. Shamone, we're still waiting to hear the confirmed details of the deal But from what we understand there will be Palestinian prisoners who will be released We're also hearing women and children and when they say children you're talking about minors under the age of 18 to be clear How is that likely to go down in the country right now? The release of Palestinian prisoners has come at a cost in the past at the same time Obviously as we're discussing there is an ethical obligation and a need for the country to make sure That a country that celebrates life a country that values every single individual person make sure that each civilian each citizen from this country and everybody was abducted by a terror organization a war crime in itself gets home safely We've seen from the beginning of this war and the hostilities that the sentiment in Israel was you can release all of the Palestinian prisoners all six thousand of them and Gain the the security and the the liberty of our hostages So I believe that the the general sentiment will be in favor of releasing. I think it's a minor price 150 prisoners for what we're gaining what we're getting back And of course, it's only a very partial part of the whole Hostage situation. I believe Again, we have oh and mentioned we have extremists in the government who will oppose anything that will Look as some kind of a surrender by our government or by giving Into under pressure, but I believe that the general sentiment will favor It's a minor price to pay to get back 53 women and children maybe some elders I think there's no no no problem with that. I want to say something about the the red cross because Ambassador Pazner mentioned their failure in the world war two I would like to say as a veteran of the 1973 Yom Kippur war they were of good service in the With our prisoners of war in Syria and in Egypt. They were active. They delivered information. They wrote letters They arranged the return of the prisoners of war So they had their days of glory even in our area, but now they disappeared So what is your take on why they do disappear? I don't know they Again, again Antisemitism is very easy. It's it's an easy answer There's a lot of pressure on them. I don't know how powerful they are in other regions in the world. Maybe they're losing their their influence We know that the United Nations is not a great The great entity when it as it is was when it was established. So I don't know another thing is that In the past the Red Cross was dealing with governments the government of Israel the government of Syria the government of Egypt and here the dealing with the terrorist organization who did not adhere to international agreements and pacts and Conventions and pushed them. Well, I think there's even a more basic point than a tando right a former major generally Israeli military for a coordinator of government activities in the territory military secretary lots of senior positions said in this studio This could have been something that israel negotiated for in the agreement This could have been something that could have been negotiated for in the agreement It's something that our government seems not to have prioritized. Maybe a big mistake now Again, obviously hamasa terrorist organization is not going to allow the red cross to go into the tunnels and and visit the prisoners Unless it's negotiated for right? Of course the argument is that the icrc international committee of the red cross Should have been more vocal and been seen more in public as being more active on this front Again, I don't know why they don't one other possibility is that they need to operate inside the gaza strip And to do that they may need to they may feel they need in order to serve the civilians in the gaza strip And do their job in a sense To chew to a more hamas line by the way, that may be a plague that may have infected other humanitarian Organizations in the gaza strip now they have an ideology But they're in a sense behold to hamasa's ideology one very quick comment saying debitimoni said In terms of the opposition from Betso Smotri Chini to Marbenvir Look many of the positions they take are widely seen in israel and beyond as extreme as far right and in some cases beyond the pale I don't think that's the case here. It's quite possible to disagree with them I personally in this case disagree with them. I would vote for this deal if I were a minister and Loyal viewers know i'm not a big fan of some of these deals But this one given these terms and given these circumstances I would vote for But I think there has to be room in our public debate benita for people who oppose these deals And they've seen these ministers seem to have a real constituency if we can look at social media and anecdotes Of what's developed in the last few hours a big part of the israeli public agrees with them I think there has to be a place in our public debate for it not to be taboo To oppose these deals to raise questions about them I think the argument against this deal while I disagree with it and while I would not vote the way they are Going to vote where I am minister. I think the arguments are non frivolous I think there are real arguments that they brought to the table that are reasonable to be part of the public debate And just because in in many issues what smote rich and benvedere are widely seen put it that way as being Far right positions extreme positions that may not be the case in all circumstances including this one We're going to unpack a lot more of all of these issues in a short while But right now let's take a look at the reaction out of the united states president joe biden saying earlier quote We are now very very close to securing the release of potentially dozens of hostages held by chamas in gaza Let's take a listen in his own words I spoke recently about of both the premise and then yaho and a america My team is one of the regions settling I So for more insight we now cross live to our senior u.s. Correspondent mike wagenheim And he joins us from new york so mike the u.s. Has been showing its solidarity and support since the start of this war And there are also americans amongst the hostages being held by chamas right now What more is known about the u.s. Input in helping secure a hostage deal? Oh, we were kind of wondering all along here benita Who was going to be the broker who was going to be the mediator in this this conflict and in past conflicts? You and I talked about this when this war broke out All eyes i think were turning to egypt egypt had negotiated on behalf of the biden administration back in 2021 ceasefire between israel chamas and you and i talked about at the beginning of this war Could egypt play the same role especially with us egypt tensions based on the senate foreign relations committee chairman withholding Military aid to egypt due to human rights violations. Well egypt has certainly taken a back seat in terms of this war They've been a Non-factor essentially in trying to broker anything beyond the evacuation of those premature Babies out of al shifa hospital within recent days. They've been nowhere to be found So who has stepped up who really has the pull to step up in this situation? Well shockingly I think it's been the united states and the biden admin who's really been working Furiously behind the scenes to negotiate something anything between these two sides here and it appears Although we don't know all the details as of yet that the biden admin has been able to um to broker this At least a temporary pause of some sort to let these hostages out Still waiting for all the details still waiting for it to be passed and as biden mentioned himself Nothing is done until it's done and it's not done yet But the fact that the united states can claim some sort any sort of accomplishment here Is I think a credit to the white house in a very very difficult situation for them Especially politically here given joe biden and the criticism that has been lobbed at him from from both sides During the course of this conflict difficult situation Indeed and as we wait for confirmation on exactly what this deal is going to involve Let's turn to that screening of the footage of the atrocities of the 7th of october taking place in the u.s Ambassador to the un guillardo dun was present at the screening Much of the video footage or the evidence now from the terror attacks was filmed by terrorists themselves These are alarming visuals. So what kind of response has there been to this viewing in the us? You know, it's interesting I spoke with the representative of the israeli mission to the un just a couple of hours ago to get a list Of countries that sent their diplomats to this event yesterday They would not provide that list now They wouldn't say why but the context around it is that you know They're still sensitivities based on diplomatic relations about just going to a viewing of this footage in the backlash It may get from the arab world. So they wouldn't provide that lay didn't say that but that's you know, that's the context around that The the the reactions that you know, the lights went out So difficult to see facial reactions But I saw several diplomats go up to israeli ambassador guillardo dun afterward one of them said listen Everybody needs to see this footage another said I I I can't you know, believe what I just saw with my eyes So there are there's an understanding of the conflict that some folks think they have even within the confines of the united nations They study it their their students of it They read the history and then there's actually seeing it unfold in real time on october 7th And I think even some seasoned diplomats were taken aback with what they saw there yesterday at the un And again so much of that footage was actually filmed by the terrorists themselves It's still staggering that people are even questioning the validity of those images I want to turn very briefly to what's happening on the ground There's much concern while we focus on the Gaza Strip about Developments up north as well and we know that the u.s. Envoy Amos Hostin arrived in israel on monday What kind of leverage does he have to try and quell tensions across the israel-lebanon border and what is known about his meetings? Not not much. I mean the u.s. Has leverage over the lebanese government certainly there's a lot of funding There are close ties there But remember the lebanese government doesn't control the southern part of their their country And if they did we wouldn't be in this situation that we're in right now It's hezbollah that controls and and hezbollah does not take orders from the lebanese government They take orders from tehran so haxin can keep everybody apprised of what's going on can certainly relay messages back and forth With israel acting as a Kind of a neutral party if you will between israel and lebanon But in terms of trying to apply pressure on the lebanese government to reign in hezbollah It's been tried before many many times It doesn't really work in the end hezbollah is going to do whatever tehran tells them to do Live from new york senior u.s. Correspondent mike wagenheim. Thank you so much for the update as always And still in studio dr. David shimoni. I want to come to you on that latest concern that we've been discussing for Upwards of six weeks now and that is if and when Hassan is rila is going to decide to get fully involved now many watching from a farm I think they they look pretty involved right now There are so many developments in terms of what is happening across that border What is your take on when? Hassan is rila might step on the gas so to speak The situation in the north is getting worse the fighting there intensifies, but it's still Skirmishes it's still local Activity and not a full-scale assault either by hezbollah anas or by israel on a hezbollah The question when will nasrallah make a decision Is comes after the question is is he Can he make a decision because he's depending on iran? And iran built this huge force of hezbollah Not to protect the hamas and not to protect lebanon, but to protect iran It's a concern of iran to have a force that can deter israel from attacking iran and to interfere in military operations that israel might initiate against iran so I guess He will not decide unless He's instructed to do to do so by iran I think iran is deterred by the american huge military presence now in the mid-terranean and the middle east So that won't happen. What can happen is a deterioration of of hostilities because of accidents because of misfiring because of Exaggerated reaction a knee jerk reaction to some something that happens hitting by mistake or intentionally A civilian like a big city hayfa or or televiv. We we are in the reach of Hezbollah rockets big rockets Precise rockets from from lebanon. So things can deteriorate very fast When they get out of control with the you know slower and Things that are are crawling into us again. I don't think Nasrallah is in a stage that he will initiate a major assault We've we've as you mentioned benita. We've been speaking about this over these weeks We always try to guess what would be the threshold that will Prompt him to start the big if and we said israelis are fighting in gaza They're bombing with tanks nothing happened artillery nothing happened the air force came in nothing happened a major ground offensive into gaza And still nothing happened. I mean what's happening in the north for the people of the north is terrible Thousands evacuated from the settlements from their villages from their towns Tens of thousands of reserve troops Stationed there and they don't go home and they don't do the work but still it's not the big offensive and Hopefully it will remain that way as long as israel wants it to remain that that way Let's take a deeper look now at something you've just mentioned the iranian involvement here because even before the october 7th attacks Iran has long provided support to militias seeking to dislodge the american presence in iraq and in syria a presence of roughly 3500 troops But since then us forces have also been part of the circle of fire backed by iran with 64 attacks on us forces in syria and iraq in less than five weeks something We've just been talking about here in studio for more middle east correspondent areal ozaran has a look in this report A surgeon attacks on us forces in the middle east as anger in the region over washington's support of israel's military campaign in gaza Increases us forces in the anal asad base in western iraq suffered another rocket attack on tuesday iraqi security sources said There were no reports of injuries Additional reports in iraq of a drone strike on a truck convoy Belonged to a shia militia west of bagdad believed to be carried out by us forces These attacks must stop And if they don't stop then We won't hesitate to do what's necessary again to to protect our troops Since october 17th us troops in iraq and syria have come under near daily rocket and drone attacks Recording at least 64 incidents and about as many injuries in that time us forces have responded with a few rounds of airstrikes targeting sites used by iran's islamic revolutionary guards corps And affiliated groups These strikes are intended to disrupt and degrade the freedom of action and capabilities of these groups Which are directly responsible for Attacks on us forces in iraq and syria iran says that latest attacks on us forces in the region were a result of quote wrong american policies Including support for israel and its war against amas america's aid to the zionist regime is encouraging them to kill and commit cruel acts of neglect Against the palestinian people and so as the number of attacks continues to mount So too has the frustration over washington's limited response And it is only a matter of time before one of those claims the life of a us service member And turning again to our panel in studio and avipas narrow want to pick up on the regional concerns of the situation That is unfolding right now potentially escalating we saw in that report how things are developing just in the last five weeks The concerns that things could get even more intense across the broad and middle east right now Yes, of course, they can get more intense and this is why There is a huge american military presence huge build-up of american military presence with two aircraft carrier and their group With a nuclear submarine With american forces spread into Everywhere in the middle east and the the americans are very this is why the effort i believe by amos horstein vis-a-vis isbala to prevent even though i do agree with what david shimonis said That it is not Nasrallah who is going to decide but it is there and but still because we may slip Into a war with his bala and we have the khutim already On the other side and we have the militias in iran and it can become a regional conflict And if it becomes a regional conflict america Against its will will be dragged in and this is what they want to avoid and this isn't in our interest We have no interest in fighting a war on many fronts We have an interest in liquidating the rule of the hamas in gaza Bringing home our hostages We at this at this moment We are not interested in a wider conflict in the middle east and this is why the american position is so important I must tell my admiration For biden already now six weeks He stands by israel and he pays a political price for that in the united states, regretfully This is the situation today that when you support israel you pay a political price And he pays the price and he stands with israel and is steadfast in the support And this is extremely important for us and give us the time to do our job Oh, and i want to bring you in on exactly that the political price that joe biden has potentially Going to be paying giving his support the way he has right now and standing his ground It is something that as you say is music to the ears of people in this part of the world But what is the price in washington right now? Well, it's complicated But you know benita an interesting way it comes back actually to the hostage deal, right? I mean israel's giving Hamas a number of things in exchange for the hostages, right? Of course the freeing of the 150 palestinian prisoners Women and children or women is not children women and minors some of them children presumably From what we understand reportedly none who are convicted of murder which would distinguish this from past deals And it's a very meaningful distinction. I think as we consider the mayor It says of course on the screen a hostage families in the hostages square or near israeli military headquarters Of course as deliberations continue on the hostage deal By the way, we're now in the third stage if we had that narrow five-man war cabinet Then that statutory security cabinet We're now at the full cabinet the full government 30 plus ministers have started their meeting to give the final green light for this deal Obviously that's ongoing It may take a while with with the 30 plus ministers and with some of the people in that room But any event that that process is underway But again the things israel's giving the release of the prisoners But it was also giving that four-day ceasefire, right? And part of this is a practical logistical thing Where Hamas and to the extent Hamas is negotiating in good faith and entering in this into good faith I think it's reasonable to argue that they actually need the quiet to actually physically find the people that that strikes me as a realistic Claim among the many other lies that Hamas tells this one may actually have an element of truth But of course they're after that ceasefire for other reasons too But notice importantly joe biden wants this ceasefire or his terminology humanitarian pause So israel's in a sense giving this four-day ceasefire to Hamas But it's a it's a four-day pause that biden wanted anyway That's a kind of gift to joe biden or something israel might have needed to give to joe biden without any quid pro quo Without a return of hostages So it's something also to be taking a continuation when we're looking at this deal benita That the the ceasefire to the extent there's an entry of more fuel and humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip These are things that in some sense the israeli government should be doing Any way to shore up the support of joe biden for exactly the reason you mentioned very quickly as for the political price It's complicated. It's complicated in the polling shows. It's complicated There is at least indirect evidence that biden's approval rating among democrats has gone down The question is what does it mean in the big picture by the time you get to the elections a year from now The new cycle we cycle we all pray will have spun far away from the gaza war Okay, or whatever however this war develops and will be on entirely other issues Donald trump will presumably be the republican candidate The issues are going to be so large for the american voter that this conflict is going to be dwarfed by them So it's hard to imagine too many people Even people who right now say it's important to them Voting or not voting or staying home for biden because but of course in the state of michigan where i'm from 3% of the population arab american of course for them This is an issue that is very very important to them and it may hurt biden there Will it hurt him enough to actually be outcome-determinative in michigan, let alone the election seems unlikely, but yeah, the scenario is on the table Gentlemen, we are going to go out for a very quick break. Dr. David shimoni. Thank you very much You're leaving us now avip has narrow and ultimate will stay on for the continuation of this broadcast Thank you. Dr. Shimoni is always for your insight on this day And we continue with our breaking news edition in just two minutes. Stay tuned back in a bit This is breaking news edition i-24 news. Stay tuned Israel is at war make an investment in israel bonds It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with israel visit israel bonds.com and invest now Made for me a unique concept in israel Custom made men's fashion to your measurements Made for me designer of all your events Schedule your appointment at www.madeforme.co.il