 It's so stupid it's positively brilliant. It's brilliant, it's positive, positive. It's positive, it's positive, positive. It's positive, it's positive. Yep, y'all, they mean to God. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots. Back for another week of brilliant idiotness. Okay, happy to be here. October has started off with a God damn bang. You might as well get to it. What did you see this past week? shows that you thought was positively brilliant. What did you see that made you say, what a fucking idiot? Oh, man, this was, dude, the VP debate was brilliant. You know what's sad? It's sad that the VP debate comes off as more presidential than the actual presidential debate. Mike Pence, Hanson, and the Harris are way more presidential. Be honest. Than the people they're number twos with. Did you watch it? And were you like, if either of them were president? Yeah. Um, yeah, I felt like that. I mean, the thing about Mike Pence is that, you know, he's an attorney, you know, he's got experiences of politicians. He's just able to articulate alternative facts. Oh, he's a cold-hearted motherfucker. That dude is obese. Yeah, he can articulate, you know, but by the way, all politicians do it. It's not like he was just a Mike Pence thing. They're both able to articulate things better than Biden. Biden? Trump and Biden. Well, actually, I think Trump communicates pretty well. He doesn't say it in an articulate way, but he just gets the point. Like, there's this funny video. Yeah, his messaging is directed to the point. Son, I got to show you this video. We got to bring it up, but this is worth, it's actually worth taking a second for. Have you seen the video? It's comparing like when Obama was talking about things to when Trump was talking about things. Oh, this shit. That's it. This right here. The United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden. Oh, I did see that. Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi. I did see that. He's dead. The United States launched a targeted operation against that compound. They did a lot of shooting, and they did a lot of blasts. Even not going through the front door. You know, you think you go through the door. If you're a normal person, you say knock, knock, may I come in? After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body. He died like a dog. Listen, I prefer that level of messaging if you know what the fuck you're talking about. Yes. Because I'm from the South. From the South, that's how we communicate. My dad used to always say the fastest way between two points is a straight line. People wonder why killer Mike is such an effective communicator. It's not just because he's brilliant. It's not just because he's educated. It's because he's from the South. OK. Duval, a brilliant communicator. Because he's from the South. It's just something about southern people. We get right to the point with it. I'm not saying Trump's not from the South, of course, his messaging is very sovereign like in its delivery. Yes, I think so. And also positively brilliant. Me and the reason I'm positively brilliant is because I told y'all last week, even though we didn't get to talk about it on the idiots, I said, I don't think Donald Trump has COVID. I said it was an October surprise. I said, I think Donald Trump, I said, two things can happen. I said, the only way Donald Trump can make me believe he has COVID is if he passes away. God forbid, I wish there for nobody. That's number one. Number two, if he doesn't have it and he survives it, what do you think a 74-year-old man that weighs 244 pounds is labeled clinically obese already thought that the coronavirus was 99% harmless? His words. How the fuck do you think he was going to act if he survives COVID? Bucky. Come on, be unbearable as hell. But also, I said this, I said, Trump's going to take some type of therapeutic vaccine. It's going to be some type of experimental cocktail. He's going to come out, tell the American people about it. Everybody's going to line up to get it. Stocks are going to shoot through the roof. You probably have some type of equity in it. What the fuck came out yesterday? What? The shit, what's the pharmacy company called? Renegade or something. Renegade, something with a R. Not Renegade, but yeah. I started to say Neutrogena, but it ain't Neutrogena. It's something with a R, right? That company is out of Queens, New York. Okay. Trump has had stock and equity in the company before. And I'm not mistaken. I think Jared Kushner has stock in it now or something like that. Okay. So that was reported yesterday. So my whole point is, Trump probably knows he's losing in November. Let me cash out. Let me cash out. Interesting. Let me cash this fuck out. To you saying that he's invested in the company that owns the drug that he took that allegedly saved him. He's been invested in it before. If I'm not mistaken, Jared. That's called Regeneron. Regeneron. Regeneron, yes. I think I'll pick up the article about, cause they reported it yesterday, but it's something about Jared Kushner and Regeneron and whatever, whatever. The moral of the story is, I don't think he fucking had code. Really? No, man. And if you, why would the most narcissistic arrogant person who's downplayed something so much come out and say he had it? So he can beat it. So he can normalize people going out and carrying on with their lives. That's true. That's what I thought the whole hustle was. It's like, yeah. If I got, I think, that's why he got them stimulus checks. Like, y'all don't need no fucking money to stay in shit. This shit is like a cold. Yeah. He said, I had this shit for two days and beat it. Y'all motherfuckers ain't going to work. He said, hell no, ain't no more money. That's what he did. I'm telling you. He literally tweeted out his flu season. His flu season. 100,000 people died from the flu. We still going with our lives, don't we? Back out to work. I'm telling you that's, it's. Interesting. It's kind of brilliant, bro. That's, that's why you gotta give it a little credit because you can't really tell people to go out there and work when they could get corona and you're not going to get it. But if you get corona and you beat it and you are the type of person that dies from corona, you could tell people to do whatever the fuck you want. Not only that, Andrew. He sucked. Every single negative headline about him out of the media. That was the best part of it. Bro, Melania Trump tapes leak when she says she don't care about kids at the border. No, no, she didn't say that. She didn't? No. What did she say? She did not say that. Cause what she said was fire. What did she say? She called Stormy Daniels a porn hooker. Well, guess what? Trump's coronavirus announcement sucked the media away like that porn hooker would have sucked all the negative media away like God damn Stormy Daniels would have. It did. But what she said, she called Stormy Daniels a porn hooker and then she said, why are they upsetting me? He says something. She's like, why don't you talk about them kids? No, she said, what do they, they said, she goes, what do they want me to do with the kids at the border? I can't do anything. Like I arranged the curtains. I have no power. She basically is saying like, I do nothing as the first lady. I don't have any power. And then she goes, and why weren't they upset when Barack Obama was putting them in cages? This happened under Obama. It was actually a moment where she seemed politically savvy. First of all, I think you're brilliant cause I couldn't even listen to that shit. Oh my God, it was fire. I read the cliff note. I'm like, I can't listen to her. Fire dude, you got to listen to it. I mean, she has not even tried to learn anything. So why was that a thing? Why were they acting like that was going to be a thing? That's nothing. What's fucked up is that was her homie that was taping her this whole time. Well, the taxes, all the tax sheet gone out of the media. Tax sheet is gone. The Trump debate from last week, stand by, stand back. The white supremacy shit is the only thing they had to bury and they buried it. They buried it big time. Nah, they had to bury the tax sheet. Nah, cause the tax sheet, he said he didn't pay taxes in 2016. He's like, yeah, of course not. I use the loophole. Yeah, but it's the debt. Everybody keeps talking about it. Like the $750 in taxes, I'm not tripping off debt. I would love to pay $750 in taxes. But it's the debt. The fact he's $400 million in debt. Yeah, it's institutions in America. No. No, that's not proven. Cause even when she bought it up last night, Pence couldn't say shit. When she bought it up last night, Pence was stuck. Oh, hi. Oh, hi, Taylor. Welcome. Thanks for joining us. When she bought it up last night, the Pence, she said that, she was like, we don't know who he's in debt to. Pence couldn't say shit. He couldn't even- What they do, they listed it already. It came out. They do. I can name the ones right here. That was the first thing I started looking into. Cause I was like, yo, that's fucked up. If a dude owes half a billy to foreign entities, how can he be objective? If you notice, they keep, even Trump, Trump hasn't even talked about his debt. All Trump says, that's a lie. All Trump- Go like this, Taylor, go like this. Go around here. All Trump talks about is the low number he paid in taxes. But even he says, that's the lightest. I paid millions of dollars in taxes. Trump does not talk about the debt. Neither does Pence. Pence ignored that last night. Yeah. Okay, fair enough. They both ignored shit last night. What do you feel about the pack in the seats in the Supreme court? They are afraid of that question. I think that's an easy thing to explain if they explain it. You know what I'm saying? If they explain it and they say, look, if Donald Trump puts another Supreme court justice in here, I think it'll be like 62 or 73 or some shit like that. He was like, they was like, that's just an uneven balance. So I think that if they explain that to the American people, yes, we would put more, we would pack the court. So it would be fair. I don't think that's a hard thing to explain. What's fair? That's the thing that's interesting. Whatever you can do is fair. Like even if Donald Trump can push Amy Coney Barrett through because he's the president, that's fair. If the Senate votes on it, that's fair. Yeah, that's the system. So if changing the system might not be fair. No, that's part of it. I didn't know you could do that, but you can do that. You can add Supreme court seats. It's not even a hard thing to do. I didn't know that. That's the first I've even- Has it been done? Is there any precedent for it? No, I don't think. I think it's always been nine. I could be wrong. I don't know. I think it's either always been nine on the Supreme court. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting because- That was a fiery battle with her though. No, what she said? She tried to avoid it at first. And then she said, you wanna talk about packing the courts? She said, y'all put all of these federal judges' lifetime appointments in. Like there's just like 50 of them, none of them are black. Like Pence was like, all right. He didn't say nothing. He just ducked the question. Yeah. I thought they did great. I thought both of them were great. Both of them were excellent. Both of them were excellent. I had lower expectations for Pence. Really? Yeah, I guess I didn't realize that he was that kind of smooth talker, if you will. But he was composed. Like he was ready to go. Most tops are- Ah! Ha, ha, ha! Ha, ha, ha! Ha, ha, ha! Yeah, talk your way to some booty. Most tops are ready to go. Ha, ha, ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha! What did you make it a whole bug situation? Um, I mean great memeable moment. I mean, for me, what I thought about honestly, I was like, yo, if people really believe in this reptilian shit, now is the moment where we're about to see a forked tongue come out this motherfucker's mouth when he gonna eat this fly. Because you can't help it, right? You sitting there, and you been sitting there for like an hour with some change, and you starting to get hungry. You fucking fly, Lance, on your head. You just wanna lick that shit real quick. Imagine if that shit would have happened. That'd be hilarious. Other than that, I was just like, all right, it's a fucking fly. I mean, I will say the moment that it happened, if you gotta listen to what he was saying, what he was talking about, he said that Senator Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are always putting out these presumptions that America is systemically racist, and that there's no, he said, he said, they try to say that there's racial bias in law enforcement. Yeah. So the moment he was talking some real bullshit, that fly swooped right in and landed right on his fucking head, and he spent two minutes talking about some shit that we all know exists. Yo, I don't give a fuck. If you can't acknowledge that systemic racism exists in America, bro. Yeah. If you can't acknowledge that systemic racism exists in law enforcement. Yeah, existed or currently exists? He said it don't exist. He said that Senator Harris and Biden are always talking about this presumption of systemic racism, as if it's just an idea. I think it's undeniable that it definitely existed, but in terms of like laws that are in place right now to be racist, and currently, I don't know like a point in a current. Well, it's not about the law. It's about this actual system, the way America was structured. Systemic racism is the fact that fucking Ebony K. Williams is the first black housewife on Real Housewives of New York. Why? As long as that show has been on, only one, like we should be embarrassed that in America we have first when it comes to black people, or first when it comes to Latinos. It's because these structures and these institutions are built on whiteness. So if I'm a white person in a position of power, yeah, I can keep people from not being here. I can keep people from not getting to the table. But that wouldn't be the system that's racist. That would be the people within the system that are racist. That's racist actors. I think systemic racism is redlining. I think systemic racism is Jim Crow. I agree with that. Like, I think that's truly the system. Stop and frisk. You could definitely make the argument with systemically racist, but in terms of- Hiring practices can be systemically racist. Whether or not they're on the books or not, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. I still think it's forms of segregation in America. I think that if you're a landlord and you hear somebody's voice, hi, I'm Shaniqua, and you're like, oh, good, and you go back, hi, I'm Karen. Oh, welcome. That's systemic racism. Whether it's on the books or not, it's a system that is rooted in bigotry, rooted in racism, rooted in whiteness. See, that's where I give a little pushback because I think it's like, okay, these are racist people that get put in these positions of power probably because of a history of systemic racism. But when we apply systemic racism to now, I think it's tricky because you basically open up, you open up a little space for people on the conservative side who agree with Mike Pence to go, well, no, the point at this, show me where the systemically racist law exists. And that's not what you're saying. What you're saying is the legacy of systemic racism has put people in positions of power who reinforce those things even if they're not there. Yeah, and so then when you lift up the hood on the American, you start looking at all the Fortune 500 companies, like way to black people. Yeah, that's the thing that cracks me up about Hollywood, it cracks me up about... Look at Hollywood. Well, no, it's not even Hollywood, right? It's all these corporations. They're all woke, at least front, they're woke, but the reality is if you look at their executive boards, they're all white, right? And that's why, that's why right now the conversation about systemic racism has to happen because the people who are in positions of power who have the privilege have to acknowledge it. Yeah. And be like Mike Pence and be like, ah, that doesn't exist. Because once you acknowledge it, you can atone for it. Maybe there's a, yeah, you acknowledge in the past, you acknowledge in the past and you can acknowledge like racist practice that continue, but I think people get caught up in like the legalese of it. But yeah, that should piss me off. Like first of all, there's nothing wrong with like an executive board that's all white. Just like there's nothing wrong with an executive board that's all black. Like that's fine, you can have that. It depends what the company is. Exactly. I think it depends on the actions of the company, right? If you're an executive board that's all white but you're a white water rafting company, okay. Amazing. That's what y'all do. I'm not going to ever be like, why does the fuck got to be white water? Okay, do your thing, I don't care. Exactly, right? If it's NASCAR, if it's one of these things of course, right? But if you're one of these companies that like really harps on how important diversity is to you, like these Hollywood studios do, right? You know we had a black president of the United States of America before there was a black president of any of these Hollywood film studios? I can't think of any. Who's the black? Who's the black? Tyler Perry had to make his own but there isn't one, there hasn't been one. So when you really break it down, to me, I just see it as so fraudulent. I see these people like crying about how important diversity is and like putting all these rules and regulations in. Okay, you can't win an Oscar unless you have all this diversity. It was like, where's your diversity? That's what that's all I'm saying. Why is it everybody wants to do diversity with someone else's job, not their own? You ever notice that? Shake up the C-Sweege, baby. Like low key? I kind of respect, what's her name? I'm not fucking fly from the fucking debate line. Fly in here, bro. We got him. Was it Serena Williams? Serena Williams' husband? I think he was on, he was like this, he was the owner of Reddit or whatever like that. He said he was stepping down to, and his position had to be filled by a black person, right? Now, I think that's stupid to just go, this person has to be black, it should just be filmed by the best person. But at the same time, it's like, oh wow, he's really putting his money where his mouth is. He really cares about diversity. He really thinks that's the change that's gonna happen. He's willing to sacrifice his own shit. Okay, you're about it. All right guys, we're gonna take a break for a second because you need new underwear. You need to get your life together and get some new underwear. 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Like that's what your therapist says. Your therapist says, feel your feelings. So if you are debating somebody and you get angry about something, who gives a fuck? Yeah. If you get passionate about something, who gives a fuck? If you get mad about something, who gives a fuck? I think that's fair. Trump don't give a shit? Biden definitely don't give a shit. We saw that in their debate. They was going at it. Going at it, yeah. She didn't even pinch last night. Your pinch was full on white male privilege. Like I'm not listening to you, white woman. And I'm not listening to this black woman over there. Talking right over her, man. Oh, please. She was so comforting to see, bro. She just made me feel right at home. I was like, ugh. The funny part is they do, they give those moderators too much black for no reason. What the, you're saying the- Both of them. Chris Wallace and the young lady last night. I forget. They're not young. Carol Baskin. Yeah. Stop, no. What's her name? What's her name? What's the girl from Tiger King? You never saw Tiger King? No, Susan. I know Susan. Susan Baskin. I thought it was Kelly or something. Susan, Susan. You sure? I don't know her name, Kelly, Charlemagne. Did you hear the rumor that the bug on Pence's head was actually Kamala's mom? Oh, damn. It is something to that. They said it. They believe, if you believe in reincarnation, you can see it happens. No, somebody sent me that this morning. Yes, what do flies represent? Flies have been around since before humans. In the biblical plague of Egypt, flies represent death and decay. The Philistine God Bezalbub's name, often equated with Satan, means Lord of the Flies. That's what I'm saying, bro. No, that's not her mom. What? What does that have to do with her mom? It could be grandma or it could be grandpa or something. I just think it was, I honestly- Any of them could be reincarnated and they could come back to help and then just nestle into Mike Pence's perfect marshmallow-y hair. I think that that fly literally was there just so everybody can get these shit jokes off. If they ever, if everybody out there who thinks that they're full of shit or pieces of shit or whatever you want to call them, that's what that was for. Yo, but Charlotte- And that was horrible, bro. Charlotte, man, how you see that reflects how you see Pence because the initial reaction for a lot of people watching it were like, oh, that's right. Well, shit attracts flies. Mm-hmm. But how else can you catch flies, Charlotte-man? With honey? Damn right. Interesting, interesting perspective. I just felt bad. I'm just wondering why that shit was on his head for two minutes and he didn't feel it. I'm wondering why his hair, is that his hair? Can't be. There's no way. No way. Male lace front? White people have lace fronts, bro. You didn't know that? No way. That fly was on that shit for two minutes. He didn't move and nobody told him. That would have been the illest shit if Senator Harris would have been like, yo, you got a bullet. I mean, oh, that's a fly. Just to fuck with him. Who was it? Was it Mark? Mark said the thing about that's how you know he wasn't wearing an earpiece? Oh, yeah. Because remember Heather said, like, go buy this earpiece in or like Trump had an earpiece in, they're just telling him what to say? But here's the thing though, the people that have the earpieces, they wouldn't notice that shit. You know why? Why? They're busy listening to what Senator Harris is saying so they can tell him how to rebuttal. It's the people at home who ain't really paying attention to the words that are coming out of their motherfuckers' mouths. Bro. And they see the fly on their head. No, but what if in his earpiece, they're just saying, remove that insect. And he's like, huh? Why would you talk about her like that? Who are these racists in my ear? What's going on? Trump called her a monster this morning. Really? Yeah, on Fox News. Because he was just like that monster on the stage last night. That's why it's okay to just show up as you are. Because they're going to trash you anyway so it's no need to hold back. It's no need to hold back and go in there and try to be cool and come off as, hi, I'm nice, Senator Harris, I'm poised. If you feel like getting your shit off, get your shit off. Yeah. By the way, we also got to remember too, it's 2020, baby. What is this about? What kind of era do we live in? Corona. Performative, man. Oh, performative. You got to be able to perform. Go out there and perform. You're looking at the camera. By the way, I hate that. When they look straight in the camera? Oh, I hate that shit. That POV feels like porn, right? Stop, stop, stop. Why did they do that? It feels so fake and so inauthentic. Like if you got something to say, just say it. Don't turn to me. America. Yeah. You're like, nah. Yeah, it is uncomfortable. I hate it. Biden did it, Kamala did it, and you can tell. They're practicing it. Yeah, but Kamala didn't do it that much. Yeah, she did it enough, you think? Yeah. Really? It wasn't as bad as Biden. It wasn't as bad as Biden. But she did it. I just think that shit is wack. But Biden's fun, because you don't know if he's going to even know the next word that comes out. So you're watching and there's some anticipation and excitement. He's like, medikit, basically to say it. Is he going to say, medikare? OK, he got it. This is good. It's amazing. It's like watching a frog on Lillipads. Like he's just jumping. I really. I think he's going to sink. I really want to know what happens after this show. What do you mean, like? We 27 more days. Like what happened? Like literally. I think we'll have an election. We definitely have an election. And then we'll probably choose a president. And did what, though? No, I don't know, man. I think that people have already made their minds. I think that a lot of this is just confirmation. Like you just watch this to make sure you're right. I don't know, man. I think at least for Democrats, what I would say to Democrats is don't don't think of it like that. Don't think people have made up their mind because in 2000, and I keep repeating this number because it's so true. In 2012, 4.4 million people who voted for Obama stayed home in 2016. Yeah. Third and we're black. How do you get them to come to the party? You know what I'm saying? How do you get them to get up off their asses in 2020 and say, I'm coming out? Devote. How do you get black people to come to the party, Charlemagne? Tell me. I'm not doing this with you. I'm just saying, how would you do it? You're a marketing maven. How would you do it? How do you get black people? If it was me, and I was working for the Democratic Party, I would say, get it, DJ. No, no, I'm saying, I would say listen. Big booty hoes, vote with it. You have to speak to people's interests. People, this is what a Democratic Party is at with black people right now. You've been with a guy for years. Guy's always promised you the world, talk sweet, dust things to you, never really delivered. Yeah. Just stick around. Yeah. Stick around. You know, he's not a bad guy. He's just a guy. And then eventually, when you realize, you know what? This shit ain't really serious. Like, we're not really, you're not about to get married. Like, you know, he's not really trying to wipe me out. You want to have kids? When you about to walk away, he's like, I'll do it, baby. Whatever you want, please. Let me marry you. Let me get you pregnant, all of that type of shit. And you like, I don't have no reason to believe you at this point. You then gave me years and years and years of false promises. So now, when your heart is broken, when you're down and you know that I'm the best thing that ever happened to you, but I'm ready to leave, now you begging me to stay because you need me. You need me. That's what they at with Black people right now. And I can't speak for all Black people. I'm just saying for some of the ones I talk to, a lot of people I talk to, they like, I don't give a shit. So how do they get you back? By speaking to Black people's interests. But they've been doing that forever and they just been lying. No, they haven't. They talk about prison reform, which is great. We want that. They talk about criminal justice reform, which is great. We want that. They talk about free education, which is great. But guess what? All Black people laying in jail. All Black people not committing crimes. You know how you talk to Black people? You talk to Black people by talking about economic equity, which Joe Biden has started to talk about only because we've been putting so much pressure on him. But what does that look like? Do they have a plan? Do they have a platinum plan? What does that look like? What's better than platinum? I don't fucking know. This is the VVS plan? In the screaming era, who knows? But I don't like, they have to start speaking to people's interests when it comes to economics because America has fucked up so much, right? America has fucked up when it comes to slavery, segregation, all of this type of shit. How are you going to atone for that? You can only atone for that through money. If you're hanging all of these Black people talk about reparations and you're looking at the way coronavirus impacted the Black community, and you know it's all these underlying conditions that was already existed in the Black community that made them the most vulnerable. How do you step up with money? So you're saying buy your vote. Who gives a shit? Just buy the vote. It's transactional. Now. Dump 500 billion in the hood. Trump can put the platinum plan on the table. But I don't care about any policy commitment from Donald Trump, you know why? Because you don't think he'll do it? No, because he's the president. You can do it. So if you've done it already. You could get it done. You would have already done it. Yeah. Interesting. What if he was like, nah, let's just start this now before I'm out? He can do it right now. You got 27 days. Now's the time to be throwing her at hell marriage, baby. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Now's the time for all October's surprise. Surprise. I'm giving all Black people $500 billion. I'm investing $500 billion into the Black community. Great. Let's go. Why not? You see, you get fucking, what? $1.3 trillion for all of these corporations. Yo, why not? Invest $500 billion into Black banks. My man, Killer Mike, just opened up an online Black bank today, the Greenwood Bank. Really? You know what I mean? You got One United. You got Carvers. Invest that $500 billion into Black banks. Robert Smith has a plan, a 2% plan where he wants these corporations to invest 2% of their net income into Black banks. Black banks. Do it. I got a Black bank account. Do it. And by the way, you don't even have to do nothing. Steve Mnuchin or whatever the fuck his name is. Mnuchin. He can write a check. He can do that shit tomorrow. He can push that through tomorrow. $500 billion out of the back. They don't got to do no vote or nothing or nothing. Do you think that Americans like our idea and concept of money has changed since the stimulus? Since the stimulus? Yeah, like since the government just printed money out of nowhere and sent it to us, do you think we're a little bit more sensitive? No, I think we always felt that way. Really? Yes. I never felt that way. America always like. No, America always felt that way. Really? You've been saying it for years, they print money. They print your bacon, you can print money. I've been saying that for years. I don't think so. Really? I don't think nobody thought it was a cap. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't think anybody thought that. Like Nina, Senator Naterna was on this morning. She said some real shit. She's like, yo, they always telling you what to do. They're always telling you what they're going to do with your tax dollars. Yeah. That's your money. Yeah. Literally, I think we talked about this before. If you look at the amount of money that is paid in taxes in a year, it's so much shit that we could take care of each other with. If that money was going in the right place. But the problem is that money ain't going in the hood. That money's going into them fly-ass neighborhoods in Jersey, them fly-ass neighborhoods in LA. All you got to do is drive through one of them rich neighborhoods. You'll see all the tax dollars going, baby. Right. Because they're probably paying the most taxes. Yeah, and you see what the schools, their schools are great. Yeah. Just look at the state taxes in Jersey. Yeah. Look at the amount of money paid in state taxes in Jersey. So you're saying taxes are good if they're paid and utilized. Taxes are good if they're going to the right people. That's what they're supposed to be doing. They tell us that we're paying taxes to take care of the less fortunate, right? So the point is enfranchised. Just out of curiosity, do you support this idea? Maybe those schools in Jersey and the nice neighborhoods will just be a little bit more, I don't want to say moderate, modest, a little bit more modest. And then the schools in the poor neighborhoods, which are struggling, would be a little bit more, I know, wealthy, if you will. I think all schools, honestly, can have the same amount of everything. I guess in order for that. Middle, high school, like. But in order for that to happen, a little bit got to come from the nice, right? Like, that's the whole idea of taxation, right? You and I get taxed way more than some poor people, and that helps those poor people. But we would do the same thing. So it's supposed to help those poor people. Right, right. The idea is it helps poor people. But we would do that with schools. But the tricky thing with that is we'd have to tell those kids that go to the rich fancy school, we'd have to be like, hey, you can't have all the rich fancy stuff you have because in order for those poor schools to have more stuff which they fucking deserve, we need to take some of the money out of you and give it to them. And you probably get crazy pushback from those parents, right? I don't think it would be that much different, yo. I really think you can make this school. I think it's the right thing to do. I'm just saying that's the tricky conversation you got to have is when you start telling... I think you can have equal opportunity, nice education across the board in the hood, all the suburbs. But don't you think it would have to come from somewhere? Like it'd have to give a little bit. The most money I would put, I would put money in making all the schools the same, but I would give more money to those teachers who live in those poor... Well, I think teachers should be getting paid more all across the board, but I would give more to those teachers who choose to work in those poor and disadvantaged areas. Those poor kids are more annoying. What? What? What? What? What? What? What's up with this guy? What? Wait, why do they get paid more to teach the same algebra? It's the same algebra. No, because it's poor kids. It's just, it's the same two plus two, but when the poor kids... Two plus two equals poor. All right? But because it's the poor and disadvantaged area, let's be honest, crime is probably higher. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be more dangerous. Yeah, it's more dangerous. It's more of a dangerous environment to be in. Right. You know what I'm saying? So if you choose to be Joe Clark. But to be fair, I mean, like all the school shootings probably happen in like, you know, richer, nicer schools. That is also true too. Maybe we should pay them a little bit more too. That's also true too. That's what I'm saying. I think teachers should just, teachers should just get paid more across the board, but I would look at being a teacher in some areas, I'd have to give you some hazard pay. For example? I'm not giving you any examples. Okay, fair enough. But I was, I don't know the type of environments I'm talking about. All teachers? Yes. They get paid more. They get paid even. They get paid more. Hell yeah, because them kids will beat you up. Them kids got on their play clothes and they wanna try you. They and they, they worked up, you know what I mean? That's when you might get into a fight in PE class. I'm serious Jim. I bet you if you look at the statistics, Jim teaches getting more fights than anybody. You think? I don't know, I just made that up. That's a brand new statistic. I'm just assuming. Fair enough. You're just assuming. Fair enough. I'm just saying like, I'm all about paying teachers more, but then we gotta get them to do something over the summer. You can't take two months off over the summer. Why? They need a break. What is this? Two months off during the summer. Now you need that break man, that's part of it. Like, and now I guess what? Now you got money to travel. Now you got money to really go take a vacation Mr. Teacher, Mrs. Teacher. Wait a minute, this is actually an interesting point. Teachers don't make that much, but is it calculated into the whole year? Because. Yeah, my mama was a school teacher. My mama was a school teacher in Monks Corner, South Carolina. She teachin' St. Stephen, she teachin' Charleston. I think the, she told me the most she ever made in one year was $30,000. Ah. Think about that, $30,000 with five kids. Fuck. We didn't go on no vacation when I was young. How tall do you think you would have been if you could get fed properly? That's genetics, okay? That's genetics, my dad, my dad's short. But yeah, think about that 30 grand a year, yo. Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, you probably couldn't survive in New York on 30 grand. No, and it really does fuck with you because it's like, I can make that for a Zoom appearance. Think about that. You giving me a man with a list and a 12th grade education, that type of money to talk on Zoom. Yeah. You giving a teacher who you entrust your kids with every fucking day. Like when you put, when you leave your child in that school, the only thing keeping those children safe are those, that administration. And they making 30 fucking grand a year. Yo, that's a great Jersey 64. I mean, it depends on the tax bracket, right? But like, that's a great point about like paying the people that take care of our kids. We always go like, yo, kids are the most important kids of the future. We gotta take care of our kids. But all the people that we pay to take care of our kids, we barely pay anything. Yeah. Maybe sitters, $10 an hour, $15 an hour, maybe $20 an hour. To take care of the most important thing in your life, how much you pay for your shrink? I don't know. You pay five times more than the person that takes care of your children. Not mine. My nanny is well compensated. How much your nanny really gets? Let's be honest. My nanny is well compensated, but that's because I know that she's taking care of my kids. You know what I'm saying? And you get bonuses and all of that type of stuff. Like I don't, you don't, certain things you don't suck on. You're not paying your nanny $100 an hour. There's no way. There's no way. I don't, let me think about it. There's no way. How many days does she work a week? Five. Five days a week. How many hours a day? $800 a day? Let's do the math. There's no fucking way, Charlotte. There's no way. $800 a day times. I didn't say $100 though. You said $100 an hour. I don't know what it is. I've never looked at it because it sees the salary. $100 an hour. No, that's how much I pay for my therapist. And I know what I'm saying. You're not paying that to the person's face. I'm not sure. I gotta see how much it is a year. That's what I'm saying. It's a nice salary though. I agree. I believe it's a nice salary. I'm just saying we front like we really care about the people that are looking after our kids when we'll let any stranger look after our kids for barely any money. But that's why they hire these kids to be babysitters. That shows how little you give a fuck about your kids. No, I would never. Would you hire your kids to do a job? I would never hire a 16 year old to babysit in this era. Imagine that. Hell no. 16 year olds. Not these kids. These 16 year olds different. Why? There's something wrong with them. What do you think it is? I don't know. It's just off. Like it's just weird. These kids are weird, bro. Maybe I'm just old and I just don't understand what we need. Something is off. Like they're just strange. Like the way their brains work, the way they compute things, I think it's a lot to do with social media. Just the way they take in information. You know what I mean? It's just something off about that generation that I wouldn't trust a 16 year old. I really would not trust a 16 year old watching my kids. Paige asks if you trust your daughter at 16 to watch someone else's kids. Not somebody else's. Not because she's not responsible, just because I don't, I think, I actually think that's too much responsibility for a 16 year old to have. You know what I mean? Yeah. If you want to babysit, have your own kids. Ah. What? So 16 year olds should have their own kids. No, I'm just saying. I was like, what? There was a whole MTV show about this, exactly. 16 and goddamn pregnant. Yeah. The teen fucking mom, right? So don't get fucking mad at Charlamagne and get mad at MTV. And those. Seriously, motherfuckers will get mad. I can't believe Charlamagne would say that. But you're tuning in religiously for years. The goddamn teen mom and 16 and pregnant. Knock it the fuck off. Those shows made a lot of money. What? Made a lot of money. You know how much money they're making now being like just rich now, just being on that show? How much? They're making a good like hundred thousand or so or more than that. Taylor, I got a feeling that you have absolutely no fucking clue what you're talking about right now. They do. No, I'm saying because look, I used to watch Teen Mom, right? You used to watch. I used to be like the person in America, the black woman. That's right. We'll stop. Wait, you're telling her to stop disrespecting black women by continuing to talk? Is that what you're saying? I'm on your side, Taylor. Taylor, Taylor, don't do that. Don't do that, Taylor. Taylor, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't don't do that, Taylor. You can't get that defeated. Taylor's right. I don't believe how much. That is at least $500 a season as the original Teen Mom. No, but Taylor said the highest paid one is making being on that show. The highest paid one is making $500,000. A season. Season. But you know they have other stuff after. What you're saying is they're making money from appearances. They're making money from doing ads on Instagram. They have podcasts and they're on the show. They're not making a lot of appearances. Who's watching the fucking kids? Come on, guys. They got nannies now on a show. The whole show is about them not watching their kids. Seriously, do you think $500,000 is worth being a Teen Mom? I mean, y'all, we got to put this in perspective. It's not like they're showing up to do like love and hip hop or basketball wives. $500,000 and you got to have a whole baby. Like literally when they do the casting calls for these shows, they say 16-year-olds who have children of 16-year-olds that are pregnant. Is that worth it? No. No. No, this is a whole child. Why didn't they have Teen Dad? And that's how they keep having more. They didn't have Teen Dad. They didn't let this kid skateboard. We know. Taxes. So that's $250,000, $200,000. Whoa. You know they're taking 40% out. Yeah, but you get to write off your kids, though. And they keep having more kids, too. They have like four kids, like maybe three of them have four kids now. Yeah, they're fertile, bro. You're fertile when you're younger. You're fertile. I think it was a good thing I didn't have. All of them have different baby dads, too, by the way. Why do you have all these babies? All of them have. And a lot of them are from the country, though. Yup. Charlemagne. Charlemagne. I saw a lot growing up. So that's no. But I've never seen white people have different baby dads, like how they have it. Could you stop? I'm just serious. I'm just serious. You have to stop buying and talking. They don't see. I know, but I'm just saying they don't show that. She has a cousin with six different baby daddies. Your cousin gets Cumbed in, man. Wow. In Pages Defense, she's from Pennsylvania. What does this mean? She's from Pennsylvania. Well, that's what's mean. Try anal. Well, that's what's mean. What do you mean? Well, that's what's mean. Pennsylvania? Yes. Pennsylvania's the up north, down south. Yeah. It is. You got to be out, y'all. Why do you say that? It's Philly out the equation. Everything else other than Philly, bro. Pennsylvania's the up north, down south. Everything else other than Philly and Pennsylvania is pretty country. And what's this? And now, I'm starting to see a little bit what people are saying, but nah, chill. Delaware? What about Delaware? Delaware ain't country? Yeah, but Philadelphia is not part of Pennsylvania. That's what I'm saying. You're talking about it's in Pennsylvania. It is. Hershey? Hershey? Have you ever been to Penn State? You're from Hershey? No, that's country. That's country is fuck. Is your cousin from Hershey? Is that that's not near Hershey? Oh, it's close. That shit is country is fuck, bro. No, there's definitely country places in Pennsylvania, but. Just admit it. Just admit if you would have been in this country as hell. Not all of Pennsylvania, though. I don't even know what we're doing. Billy, don't count. What else are we talking about? I'm talking about, like, Little Mirion. That's not country. Little American country is fuck. No, it's not. He's talking about Rest in Peace, Kobe Bryant. He was shooting on the freaking poop that was on a tree. What are you talking about? Yup. I don't know. I made that up. I'm going to say, like, you know, I lived next to him. No, it wasn't. Oh, god. You see this? You see this? She did it. Flex, flex, flex, flex, girl. Hey, you just get your flex. Charlamagne don't want it. Charlamagne don't want it. He's still to this day. He does not believe me, yo. Respective matters. You grew up next to Kobe. We used to go over his house. Yo, it was poor. Yo. To what? You're both your family. How are we poor? Did you know what his house looked like? We were in the suburbs. Stop. Chill out. What was the suburbs? What do you mean, what are the suburbs? Google right now, Little Mirion suburb. You want to see? I could Google my house. Wait, Google my house. Because these are his things. I'm his thing. I sell like five of them. I'm more suburban than you. I'm a person who grew up poor. I didn't know I'm poor than you. I didn't know I'm a poor until I got older. I got a feeling. Tell her about to get a rude awakening about how she grew up. Yo. OK, what's up? Google Little Mirion. Medium household income is $107,000. Holy shit. Thank you. You're proud of my parents, I. That's mom and dad. That's a whole house. Wait, what? That's a whole house. That reminds you of my mom. That's side chick. That's other side chick. That's dad. The 16-yo death pregnant claiming to baby on the taxes. Who was pregnant? Who? That. I didn't see you. Stop trying me. The 16-yo. Stop trying me, you're showing me. The. The. Google it. Mind you, we were the only, like, me and Kobe's family were the only black families on that point. What? On that street. Son of a house, Kobe grew up in. Did you see? You only saw the front. You know how far back it was? You only saw the front. OK, so what? What's in that house cell for, Alex? Google it. Somebody literally just bought the house. I know. And I grew up in. And I think they bought it for, like, $26,000 or something like that. And it still had the same basketball mind you that Kobe played on in the driveway. Whoa. Yeah, I know. Did you play ball with Kobe in the driveway? My brother did. Did he really? Yes. Do y'all want to see a picture? Oh my god, you couldn't wait to go for the picture. I had to go for the picture this early in an argument. Because you're trying it right now, yo. You usually wait about an hour before you go through the picture. You're going to the picture this early? Wow. She's going for the picture this early. Yo, brother. Why you hating? Wait, I don't know why you hating so much. Yo, why are you hating so much? I will give Taylor credit, though. Taylor was like this before Kobe passed away. Really? Oh, yes. This is this this this has got more intense sense rightfully so, but whoa. Whoa. Really? Yes. I've seen this little fake ass picture a million times. I still don't think it's Taylor, though. It could not be. Mind you, my mom came to to the show and still, but you wanted to be kissing her ass like, oh, OK. Her mom was like, yes, that's her. That's her. Oh, wait. Yeah, that's her, that's her. Yo. You're such a hater, yo. How much did the outsell for Alex? $900,000. $900,000? God. Yes. You're catching these asses. I don't want Taylor to be pulled off. I know. Yo. What the fuck? This is crazy. The most disrespected woman on the planet is from lower marriage. I'm broke an idiot. Come on. I don't hate nothing but no struggle from you ever, Taylor. I never said I did struggle. That is true. No, you said that you had it good, right? That is true. Ellen loves to brag about that shit. No, I don't. Shout out to Salute the Lord, Mary, and I'm tired. I tried to make y'all out to be goddamn. We have one of the richest high schools, this one like that. Is there Marion? Is there a higher Marion? Are there any other? There's a Marion. There's Marion. So why is it lower Marion? I don't know. The two black families, brothers and sisters. They moved. They changed the name. The second y'all moved in as hell, that's low. It was middle Marion until these two black families moved in. Then they called it Melon and Marion. 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Like what are you talking about? Yeah. And they're like, you're trending. I'm like, for what? You know what I'm saying? It's never good. And so it's like 26,000 tweets or something like that. And it's all old savage Charlamagne. Here's the thing, I'm not mad about none of that stuff. I actually welcome it. And the reason I welcome it is because I'm fine being an example of growth for people. I'm fine being an example of evolution for people. And the reason it's tricky, right? And that's why I say I don't know whether it's brilliant or idiotic. It's because I can't sit here and say that I feel sorry about any of that stuff. And here's the reason why. A lot of people made a lot of money off of that. You know what I'm saying? And in a lot of ways that was part of building the brand of the breakfast club, building the brand of Charlamagne, building the brand of brilliant idiots, whatever it was. Of course. You know what I'm saying? And so it's just like, that was a moment in time. You know what I mean? That was a moment in time. A lot of it was performative. All of it was performative. I didn't realize that at the time. At the time I thought I'm just, you know, they calling me the hip hop Howard Stern. So let me give them more of this creepy shit. You know what I mean? Let me give them that, right? But that shit was like, it wasn't me. You know what I mean? And that's why one of the reasons I moved away from it. You know what I mean? I moved away from it because I didn't get no trouble. Clearly I was getting money. He's too funny. This is stupid. Me and Simba. So who killed your father? Yo, this is so funny. No, this one is funny too. Charlamagne always got this look before saying something wild. That stuff, I don't, the Mac, like all that stuff is fine. Like I asked those kinds of questions, you know what I mean? But I'm not purposely asking people crazy questions. You know what I mean? But all of that other stuff, it was just performative. I got caught up in a shtick. I got caught up in like the whole hip hop Howard Stern vibe. Like honestly, that's what it was. I was performing, you know? I loved it. You were a great performer. You were a great performer. I loved it. I thought it was so funny. I watch them now and I think they're funny. You know what they better hope don't come out? What's that? Them old guy cool clips. Why was it crazy? Right. Go back and watch guy cool. You know they took down one episode because of someone I said? You guys, first of all, think about who was on guy cold. You. And Andrew Schoen and Little Duvall. Yeah, it got a little crazy. What the fuck? Son, apparently I said something on one episode where I was like, you know, guy cold is about relatable guy shit, right? For some reason, I thought it was appropriate to be like, yo, you ever see like a hot girl in like a sundress in the summer, you know, walking down the street and you're like, all right, I'll walk this way for a few blocks. Listen, man, listen, listen, they kept it in the episode. Wait for it. And then they animated it. Oh, they animated it. And then years later, years later, when culture shifts, yeah, they're like, how did this happen? You want to change the shit. Somebody said that to me on Twitter. They was like, yo, you reaped all the benefits acting like that. And now you're afraid to suffer the consequences. What consequences? Yeah, the consequences were the benefits. Here's the thing. There should be no consequences. The reason there should be no consequences is because cultural context matters, right? Like I keep telling y'all, stop giving motherfuckers retroactive speeding tickets. We were going the speed limit that was allowed at the time. Yeah, there was no speed limit. Do you know who's there was no fucking speed limit? I mean, it was crazy. Bruh. What? What now? Say it now. Say it now. Listen, you know who's getting $120 million a year? Who? Howard fucking Stern. Howard Stern is doing his new deal. He's getting $120 million a year. Howard Stern was the king of shockjockiness. Like when they used to put me in publications and say he's the hip hop Howard Stern, he's a shockjock, that's what I was modeling myself after. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, oh, this is what people want. We're going to continue to give him more of this. Now mind you, that's a small window, right? We started Breakfast Club in 2010. For me, that act wore out about 2012, 2013, maybe 14, I don't fucking remember. I don't want to get into dates, right? But the reason the act wore out is for all of the same reasons. It kind of wore off of Howard. I remember watching private parts and seeing Howard's wife get on his ass. For me, my wife would be getting on my ass. What would she say? Stop that dumb shit. The fuck is you doing? Like, you know what I mean? And it's like in my mind, in my sick twisted mind at the time, oh, I'm on the right path. My wife's mad at me. The way Howard's wife was mad at him. You know, and then you got, I got friends that really know me. Like my homegirls like Debbie Dev and Kendra G. And they're like, I really can't wait till people get to see the real you on the radio. And you raised it. Andrew's like, no, man. Yo, Debbie, put down the rocks, bro. Put down the rocks, man. Stop fucking up a good thing, OK? No, that's just not a good thing. No, it was a beautiful thing. It was beautiful. It was hilarious. It was amazing. It was the way I played ball at the time my game was evolved. But this weekend was definitely very well calculated. I thought it was an organized, calculated hit. No, no, no, because it was because no, I did that. You figured out who it is. No, no, I don't figure out who it is, but I did the Intel. It's literally like 80 something percent bot. And so it was a thing. Somebody, but I'm used to that, though. Listen, I've been used to that for a while. Like that's my point about that is, Charlie, is that the content was so funny that even with people trying to smear you and cancel you, we were looking at on Twitter and we were like, nah, this is slap still. I'm like, who are you? First of all, I'm like, who are you new people? Those are the old hits. Those are the hits. Those are the old hits you can't perform no more. Yes, you can. No, you can't. You're not, no, I'm not listening to you. When you got a single, you got to suck a fart out of butt soon. One suck a fart out of a butt. Zay, no. A suck a fart out of a butt. I am so happy where I'm at in life. Called a bong rip. I thank God. Called that bong rip. I thank God. Hit that bong. I thank God that I evolved. I thank God for my daughters because they helped me grow a lot. I thank God for therapy. I don't want to go backwards. But once again, I can't shit on that era either because we made a lot of money in that era. But people don't understand cultural context. We really got to have the conversation about cultural context one day, man. Things were different. If you wasn't there, I can't describe it to you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Back in the day, you was going here, gay slurs in music. You was going, I will say this too though. And this is what hurts me the most about it. And this is what I'm so intentional about how I move with women, you know what I'm saying? Especially black women. There was a time where it seemed like violence against women was a genre. Of music, you're saying? Just in general. Whether it's music, movies, comedy, whatever it was. Like the things that, you know, people, men used to make light of. It was literally violence against women. We may not have seen it like that, but it was. You know what I mean? Interesting, interesting. And so it's just like. Why do you think that is? Do you think it's possible that that's the most extreme moral corruption that we can think of? Yeah. I think deep down we know how horrible it is. So oftentimes it like proliferates the art we create as like the worst thing to do. I think being that there was no line back then. Right? We were searching for a line. Everybody was literally trying to be as shocking as possible. Yeah. To kind of stand out. Yeah, yeah. Like you had to be like on this level or the commentary had to be on this level or the music had to be on this level. Like you had to almost say some like wild, shocking shit. That's why Eminem popped off the way that he did. There is a song by Eminem where he's like listing his credits and like a basketball player coming to the game from blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like as if it's a credit and then it just starts rapping. It was crazy. That shit is fucked up, man. And that right there is what makes me be so intentional about the support I show for women. Because I'ma be honest with you, even back then there would be times where I would hear like women say I hate Charlamagne. I'm like, why do you hate me? Yeah. Until you go back and you like, oh. Well, what? What would you say that would make them hate you? Man, shut up. I'm drooling. I don't think you were in Charlamagne. Cause you're a man. And the worst kind of man, okay. A male comedian. A white male comedian who still doesn't see anything wrong. You love pushing the fucking limit. This guy is so crazy, man. I don't like it. I don't like it. And that's why. But I don't think you ever said anything anti-woman, bro. Nah, you do unintentionally. It's just like, listen, you can't go backwards. And I'm not trying to go backwards, but I will say I am extremely ecstatic to hear people always constantly tell me over the past few years, five years actually, how much I've evolved and how much I've grown. And sometimes those clips serve as a reminder, like, that's Charlamagne? Lenar, that's, God damn. He was out of control. It's debatable. It's debatable. It's just, I'm just saying, I loved it. I'm never gonna stop loving it. I think it's absolutely great. Ed. Oh. You want to do that? All right, fine. But the moral of the story is. What's the moral? Let's get to the moral of the story. I don't know if there is a moral. It's just weird. It's just weird. It's just like, you know, okay. What? You're attacking me for things that everybody has already seen. Yeah. I hold myself accountable, you know, for being in a fucked up state of mind, not taking shit here as I should have, but also, you know, the consumers who ate it up. I loved it. I don't apologize. You know what I mean? I don't. It's just that the culture was different. Yeah. The context of things were different. I actually am ecstatic about where we're at right now. Yeah. As a culture, but I still think that we have to have a real conversation about cultural context and about how people have evolved and grown. Because I don't think we're giving people the grace to make mistakes anymore. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. How often do... Well, what about not mistakes? What about just jokes? Like, I think jokes are allowed. Yeah. Even if they're fucked up. Because the intention behind the joke is just to make somebody laugh. But you're doing it at somebody's expense. Well, a joke is always at someone's expense. Yes, and everything ain't to be joked on. And that's just the truth to the man, and we gotta know that. I think you can joke. I mean, like, look, you know me, I'm gonna have a different... I'm gonna have a different view on this. Yeah, exactly. I'm speaking from the perspective of I think that's what hurt you is that you would say, in my opinion, you were always a comedian. And I looked at you as a comedian, and my comedian friends looked at you as a comedian. Really? Yeah, because we saw you had material. I think the average person wouldn't see it, but like, you had like ideas and jokes and like word play that was comedic. It wasn't like, oh, this is just something funny. That sometimes you and I will just have a moment that's random and funny. But sometimes there's something planned that's said that's funny as well. So we look at that as a joke. So I always gave you comedic expectations, but the average person would hear you go, I'm not a comedian, I tell the truth. Or you would have a line about it. The point is, is like, if you have that comedic expectation, I think people can take shit with a grain of salt. But if you're out there, you yourself branding yourself going, yo, this is who I am. I don't make any jokes. Oh, I do speak the truth. And then you suddenly say something wild. They're like, oh, I guess he really feels that way. And all I was doing was performing, bullshitting myself. Yeah. That's the most fucked up thing about it. I used to always tell y'all, you don't wanna become a character to yourself. And I absolutely became a character to myself. It was great. And was still lying. It was great. It was so good. It was fucking great. Nobody listened to this right now. Nobody, if you came on this podcast right now, you're like, yo, fuck all this tree hugging, mental health, shit. I'm going back to sniffing seeds. Nobody listened to this podcast right now will be like, I'm not listening anymore. They'll be like, yo, next week's about to be crazy. If that shit happens, commit me. So I commit you? If I come in here and ever say that, commit me. I'm gonna finish that. Something is wrong. We're gonna get a hold of that for him. And then I'm gonna take you to the next thing. Now, that's not to say that you found a way to elevate. I don't wanna even say elevate because it acts like the other thing is lower, right? But you found a way to maintain. It was a lower vibration. I don't wanna put lower or higher. We're not talking about Marriots. I wanna do, I wanna, I wanna. I wanna say this. You found a way to maintain your entertainment level. Because I didn't need that shit is what I'm trying to tell y'all. Because you developed the other skills. I always had those. You just didn't know that, you just didn't know that people would find them as entertaining. Yes. Yeah, yeah. But, and that's also a confidence thing. Sometimes you might feel like you have to rely on that shit, right? All right, guys, we're gonna take a break. Pay some bills real quick. Listen, look good, feel good. In order to look good, you need to be dress right. In order to be dress right, it needs to fit. Simple as that, especially if you're in a suit. If you're dressing up, it's gotta fit right, okay? No such thing as baggy suits out here. 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Andrew hit me like my therapist and I'm gonna tell you why. I am at the point in my life where I'm really not trying to judge people for what they did based on survival. Yes. When they were in survival mode. I think I have been fired four times from radio. I get this new opportunity on the breakfast club. I'm not fucking it up. I'm not fucking it up. First year we didn't do so well in radio. Numbers are rough. I'm like, fuck it. We go. Like, let's go. You understand what I'm saying? And yes, it was a lot of insecurity in that. You know what I mean? It was a lot of, I don't have the confidence to necessarily be who I am, so to speak. Even though if you've watched me throughout my career for the past 23 years, a lot of the things you're seeing now, is it new? Like I've always been very pro black. I've always done interviews with people like the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan. Like I've always felt like, you know, I knew I had this skill set when it came to interviewing. I was making noise doing interviews when I was on the radio in Philly. When I was in South Carolina, I literally got national attention from doing an interview with Buffy the Body at the time. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like I, like T-Pain was another interview that I got a lot of love for when I was in South Carolina. So those things have always been a skill set of mine. But when you in New York and you're looking at everybody that cut through in New York, it usually is the shock jocks. Yes, star. Yeah. Howard Stern. Howard Stern. You know the Miss Joneses of the world. Even Wendy Williams. Wendy. 100%. So it's just like, man, fuck that. I'm going balls through the motherfucking wall. But it got to a point just for me, not for nobody else. Just literally for me. And what was going on in my household that I'm like, man, fuck that. I can't be a part of this shit no more. When did you realize you could be equally entertaining without it? Shit, December 2019. With what? Just getting to a place of worthy. You know what I'm saying? Because let's not act like when you make this transition, right? When you make this transition, whether it's, I don't know, I would say it was around 2014, 2013, 2014, I could be wrong, no? But when you start making that transition, right? And then you just start focusing on your craft. Which is giving critical, cultural, critical commentary and great conversation, right? When you just start focusing on that, there is people that, man, fuck that. You know the old Charlemagne would have did this and the old Charlemagne would have did that and you're sitting there like, damn, am I not giving them off? Damn, am I not giving them what they want? But what you gotta do is you just gotta step back and realize, and I didn't give myself this breathing space until December 2019, like all the show has done is wrong. The more that I've evolved, the more that I've sat down and did the work on myself, whether it's with my therapist, sacred purpose coach, whoever, when I started becoming a real man, like not cheating on my wife, really being a father, like in a real way, like being present. When I started doing that, everything around me started to evolve, everything. That's why I honestly, truly don't trip off none of the old shit. Because that is just for a reminder for me to stay on my path and a reminder for everybody else on how much I've grown and on how much I've evolved. And I will continue to be that image of growth and evolution. And I think about everything that I liked when I grew up, right? Like when I grew up, that's why I gravitated towards the nation of Islam the way I did. That's why I love the autobiography of Malcolm X because, and that's why I love the book from Niggas to Gods by Akeel because they were all stories about growth and evolution. And that's always attracted me. Now I hope I can be that example for other folks. Cause literally, man, this is so crazy. And I'll get off this after this. This week, I got a phone call from somebody and a real close friend of mine and they wanted me to talk to this young guy who is getting a lot of buzz on the internet and getting a lot of buzz on social media. And he's like, I love Charlemagne. And so we get on the phone and we're talking about him potentially doing a podcast. And he's like, yo man, you know, I want to be like young Charlemagne and like, how would Stern? And I'm just sitting there like looking at this guy like, but God is really showing me what's up this week. So I'm like, what do you mean by that? He was like, you know, just when you was, you know, reckless, you know what I'm saying? And like, you know, just getting drunk and talking about having sex with all these women and yada, yada, yada. I'm like, let me tell you something. Not only is that playing not getting off the ground in 2020, right? Eventually you're going to look back on your life three, four years from now and you're going to say to yourself, none of that shit was worth it. You know what I'm saying? Now, can I look back and say that? Yeah. It depends what I value. Financially, was it worth it? Yes. For who I know I am as a man, for the questions I'm going to have to answer to my daughters in the future, to the pain and stress I caused my wife? No, absolutely not. But you wouldn't get this version of me now if you didn't get that version of me then. And so when I saw that young man, saying that I realized the influence you have on people, but what I did like is that he said, young Charlamagne, he's fully aware of everything I do now. You know what I mean? But in his mind, I want to be like that now because that's what's going to get me hot. Yeah, that's what he relates to too. He's a kid. He's a kid. I don't know who this is, but I'm assuming he's younger. He's young, he's young, he's young. Yeah, he's a kid. That's what's exciting to them. You don't want to talk about being faithful and mental health. Let me pay for that. It's a scam. No, you're right, you're right. What your ass kid is like going on Instagram live like, yo, I've been faithful. No, these young boys are faithful, Schultz. Who? You were. You were a faithful guy. I'm an anomaly, bro. When are y'all going to realize this shit? I'm an anomaly. I sell these foul things, but I live a pious life. I don't even know what the fuck that means. You don't be seeing his IG stories or hugged up with his girl. Yeah, I'm a great guy. That's why I could talk all this crazy shit. Because you know my heart is good. Now Andrew, he's been an example, especially when he had his black woman. Let's do some asking, idiot, and then get the fuck out of here. Let's do it. Because I feel sad, and I feel like I just... Because that's how I speak to both the Air Force. What? Everything I just talked about. You just got it out. I just got it out. Good, get it out. By the way, I wasn't even comfortable having that conversation just now. Really? I'm sort of kind of, but I don't know. It's just a trigger for me. OK. It's a sore spot. You know what I mean? But I'm not worried about it. Because I know in the future, like I said, people will look back and totally get the growth, totally get the evolution, and respect it in a different way. You know? So it's whatever. You feel guilty, I could tell. You feel like you're carrying this thing. I do feel guilty. He can't say. Why? You're not a bad person. You didn't do anything bad. But like I said, it's just like, you know, I feel like there was a, I'll just say that's why I'm intentional about my support. Now. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I've always supported sisters, but you've got to support through actions. You know what I'm saying? At all times. You know what I mean? So it's just like, that's why I'm just really intentional about it. Because if I was a part of the problem, I want to really be a part of the solution in a real way. You know what I mean? Is that why I'm not really intentional in supporting? But I mean, you hate me. Because I wasn't part of the problem. You was definitely part of the problem. No, I wasn't. You're part of the problem now. I'm not part of the problem. I'm part of the solution. I'm faithful. I'm loyal. I treat these women like queens. I only take one at a time. Somebody who grew up in New York, I looked up to both of you. And you need a better role model, bro. No, no, no. But that's fine. No, no, no. I'm a wild boy. Peep it, though, peep it. It's because you guys are, like, comfortably yourselves and you have success being yourself. So even though, yes, I agree with Andrew, I do sometimes miss the old Charlemagne. Like, that was fun, entertaining. I am proud and, like, I cheer you on with the growth and the person you've become now. Because at first I thought it was, like, all right, he's just branding different. But now I see, like, it's real. And the fact that people, you still probably see the comments of people like, yo, I missed the old Charlemagne and you don't care. Like, you're still one of them, be yourself. I respect that. Thank you. That's crazy what Alex just said, because people say that. They're like, oh, he just did an image change. No, I grew up. What the fuck you? I grew up, life changed. You know what I'm saying? I got three daughters. Three. Yeah. I got a penis or two out of that. I might have been, might not never have made the shift in that way. Yeah. I got three daughters. Three. If I don't make the world a better place for them, what the fuck am I doing? And the only way to make the world a better place for them is to show up for all women. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's just like, yo, what the fuck? Literally 97% of all my friends are women. And historically, it's always been that way. Which y'all don't know is their humor is just as sick as mine. Really? Wait a minute. Talk to us now. Talk to us. No, no, no, no, no. But it's true, because I will say every single one of my women friends that know me, know me, every single one of them challenged me to be better. I mean, every single one from Kendra G to Debbie Brown, to Amanda Seals, Angela Ryne now, Alicia Renee. Like they always, always, always, always, always, always challenged me to be better. And I hope I just continue to do that. Yeah. I think that's one of those things where like, and we should move on, but like where maybe you feel pressure to live your raps. Obviously, you're not rapping, but like whatever we do, like live the image that you present it. You know what I mean? And I think that's the nice thing about being like a comedian opposed to like being someone maybe in hip hop where there's this pressure for you to always be that person that you put yourself out to. Like at least when you're a comic, like people know as jokes. They're like, oh, yeah, they're just making jokes. And people will often defend us. They're like, no, no, we want to be able to joke around about all these topics. We're not going, hey, Andrew, you need to live up to every single one of those racial stereotypes within a joke that you say. They're like, no, you just need to keep on being funny. So I think that's why. All right, people look at you as being real, right? But they're like, oh, he speaks the truth. He's real. Yeah. So they think all of it is real. Yeah. 100%. A lot of it, man, it's impossible to be in this business and not at some point become a character of yourself. It's impossible to not at some point be do things just for the performance of it all. Yeah, at points of time, you need to turn it on. It's impossible not to. Yeah, but the driving force is often authenticity. Like maybe when we're on the fucking red carpet and we're answering questions from random journalists outlets, like we'll turn it on in that moment. But you can't fake it two hours a week on a podcast every week. Yeah, you can. I don't think you can. Well, I think ours is different, though. Because we do, and like I said, even that stuff you see online, that shit is literally like 5% of everything I've ever done. Like literally, it's a very small portion. We are honest. We are transparent. We are authentic. And we're not afraid to have conversations like this. And it's always been that way. Yes. And that's what I think people gravitate towards. You're comfortable being yourself. Yes. If you have to fake a character, it can only last so long. I agree with that. No, I agree. And then it becomes redundant. You know, all those people who are characters, they just keep making the same jokes over and over again. And it's like, oh, because you ran out of you. You become. You know what I'm saying? You ran out of the character. Adrienne Clay got the same jokes. It's because that's not who he is. He has to operate within the character. And that character stopped learning. Absolutely. And also, yeah, I like it. I joke around. I bust your balls, man. I'm proud of you. I love the growth. You know, obviously, I'm always going to tease you. But at the same time, if anybody comes for you, for your old shit, I'm going to call him out because I thought that was hilarious. And I know the people that are coming. I know the people that are coming for you also were laughing at that shit back in the day. A lot of them. So it's like, shut the fuck up. Let's be real. It's like, you're going to come for Eddie Murphy. You're going to really come for Eddie Murphy now. I'm used to it, especially since I got into the politics thing a little bit more. Bro, when you say some shit about Republicans, even when you say some shit about Democrats. Oh, they come home. You see, it's a little different. Oh, they're coming home. It's a little strategic. It's a little strategic. I can tell you like this. I can tell that they're doing some negative shit. And some politics shit. And some politics shit. All right, I can tell. I just just, I can tell. You know what? I saw this happen. Maybe it's starting to happen with you, but I saw this happen with. Rogan. With Rogan. Any time Rogan mentions any political candidate at all, the next day there's a smear piece out on Rogan. Listen, and you might be going through the same thing. Absolutely. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second and save some relationships and start some relationships. We're going to make sure that everybody is getting the dick in they deserve. 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All right, let's do some asking, idiot. Oh, I also want to say for positively brilliant, you really like 21 Savages album. I love 21 Savages album. But y'all, if you've been listening to Brilliant Idiots for a long time or The Breakfast Club, you know I've been in love with 21 Savages. 21 Savages go home. You never got kicked out of the country? Wasn't he like not a citizen? They can't kick out that big stepper. That's a big stepper. Side Squash Feet, Wendy Williams Boots. That was funny. On Breakfast Club, when you were talking about one thing, you were talking about Side Squash, something like that, and then Andy brings up the next topic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was it? He was talking about, it was something about Wendy. I don't remember, but I was talking about 21 Savages. Yeah, he was like Side Squash Feet. And then he goes, he goes, all right, what else we got? Wendy Williams stomping around in that, what? Oh, I'm sorry. All right, let's do some asking, idiot. Okay. From Carrie Rovic, they want to know what movie has influenced you the most? What movie has influenced me the most? Go ahead, Andrew, what movie has influenced you the most? All right, what movie has influenced me the most of all movies? Wow. I don't know. I truly don't know, I don't know how to answer. I have a list of movies that I can listen to. That's not my podcast, not my brain. I have a list of movies that I can watch when I'm in certain moods. Like I love Armageddon. Armageddon is one of the most slept on movies. Shawshank Redemption, amazingly slept on movie. Incredible movie, actually. Let me think, oh, what's that Denzel movie? What's the Denzel movie with the football coach? Remember the Titans fire movie. Shit, Avengers Endgame, amazing. Man, listen, I watch the last hour and 16 minutes of Avengers Endgame at least twice a week. I'm talking about from the time Hope does the snap and brings everybody back. That is the, I don't think there's a better action scene in a movie. It is Goat Time. It's Goat Man, man. I mean, everything from when Captain America grabs the hammer and then when Falcon's like, on your left and they all come back and they get to fight. Oh my God, that shit is incredible. Bro, if you watch that on YouTube, you can watch it with the audience's reaction. Yes. That's the only way I watch it. Cause I love when the Captain America grabs the hammer and then everybody in the audience starts losing it. I want to see that shit four times in a theater. What was it? What movie influences me the most? That's crazy shit. Carla, any, what's your Halloween costume? Can you give us a hint or you want to? I haven't even thought about it this year. Well, are we even doing Halloween this year? I don't even know, bro. Like what happens with the kids? I know what I want to be though. Hey, are you? Yeah, yeah, I want to be Sting. Remember old Sting. The wrestler? Yeah, I remember Sting with the black trench coat and the fucking hair and the white. Black and white. Black baseball bat. I want to be Sting. Oh, I thought you always do a superhero. I think Sting is a superhero. He's the fly. He's in white face though, bro. I don't know if you could do that, bro. I don't know if you could go white face, bro. I want to be Sting this year. I don't know, we'll see. If there's a Halloween, I might just dress up, just dress up. I mean, we're back in the studio anyway, so fuck it. Yeah, maybe we'll do a little dress up episode. All right, what else, Taylor? From quit in 28, he wants to know if you were Pence, how would you swing the fly instrument in your favor? Shit. If I was a Pence, how would I swing the fly instrument? Yo, I think it is in his favor. You dominate the airwaves, you dominate the internet and then all of a sudden people aren't talking about the points that Kamala was making. Yeah, it is kind of fucked up when you have a debate and out of the two debaters, everybody's talking about a fucking fly. That's it, think about it, right? Because if you win the internet, you win the debate. Even if Kamala won the debate, if everybody's only talking about Pence and a fly in hand, they're not talking about any Kamala's points. And to be honest, this debate was super important for Kamala because a lot of people are voting for her as if she's going to be president when Biden steps down. So you want to take as much as you possibly can out of this debate. Yeah, that's my biggest problem with Senator Harris and it's not a problem, but I want her to step up to the plate in that way because it just isn't just about Joe Biden getting in the White House. This is about her future political aspiration. You know what I'm saying? So she has to campaign over the next 27 days, like, yo, I'm letting y'all know why I should be y'all, why I should be in the White House for the next 12 years. Right up. Eight as a VP. I mean, four as a VP, eight as a little president. That's what I think. But yeah. What else, Taylor Gay? Wow. Has that ever happened in the past? Have you ever had somebody in the White House for 12 years as a VP ever won the following election and then been reelected? That'd be crazy. Okay. Well, in my lifetime, I remember George Bush being with Reagan for four then winning. And then he got bopped. Yeah, he lost the second time. I mean, I can't remember. I don't know. It's a long time to be in power. She is the perfect candidate for it. She's the one that can do it. I think so. And she's young. You know what I'm saying? She's the one that could be VP now and then be in the White House for eight years as president. And I'm telling y'all, Senator Harris could really be America's president in a real way because she will listen to everyone. She'll deal with progressives. She'll deal with people on the other side of the aisle. She does it. She's been in the Senate all this time. She does that now. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody's needs will be ignored is what I'm saying. Yeah, she got a white husband. So she understands that side of America. She's a black. She's a police officer. She understands it all in a very unique way. Like she would be very good for America, man. I'm telling you. William Harrison. Alex just brought up. That was it. Maybe. Who the fuck is William Harrison? Yeah, some white guy. Huh. All right, last one from Cowabunga Cole. What's the worst superpower you can think of? The worst what? Superpower. The worst superpower? Fast guy? What's his name? Flash. Yeah, cause everybody else is fast too. Part is like, you don't even mention that. Like no super, no superhero is like, yo, I run real quick. Right? It's always like, I can disappear and run. Yeah, I always thought it was fucked up that they would have like Superman racing to flash. Like Superman was literally like white privilege. Keep going. Cause he could do everything. Like he could, they would have him racing Aquaman. Okay. I mean swimming with Aquaman, racing to flash, fighting Batman. It's like, well, what the fuck? Why do you need any other superheroes if you got Superman? Yeah, that's a good point. Why? Yeah, he's Captain Marvel. He does every fucking thing. Yeah. I don't know if that's white privilege. Batman is white privilege. Batman is definitely white. Batman and Tony Stalks are the epitome of white privilege. Yeah. It's like, shit, y'all already rich and y'all want to be superheroes? Yeah. Y'all ain't got nothing else to do but save the world? Yeah, we were talking about this the other day, just how, what a piece of shit Batman really is. All he has is inventions. Nah, he don't even invent it. All he does. Come on, Taylor. What? Everything in here is an invention. Yeah, inventions are good. No, I mean, all he has is gadgets. He don't have like- The microphone is a gadget. No, I'm saying all he has is that. He don't have like an actual body and power. He doesn't have any super power himself, but look at this. When you think about what he really does, he just beats up poor people. That's all Batman does, right? It's like, you got all these gadgets, this whole outfit for somebody who's trying to take someone's wallet. You really need guns and jumping down and cables coming out of everywhere and a batmobile and a water batmobile for a guy who's doing petty theft. And the Joker was poor too. I don't know what the Joker was, but like it makes you side with the Joker. Like the Joker's seeing this fucking lunatic going around in a bat car, just stopping people who are just robbing wallets because they're starving to death in Gotham. He's a billionaire who's making money off all these poor motherfuckers and that's why they're starving in the first place. And then he goes and beats them up when they're just trying to get some money to feed my daughter. And they probably were- No, my people are in the struggle. It's all great. Listen, and they probably was only working with Joker because Joker gave him a job. That's it? There's no job slip? Cause what? Batman outsourced all them shit to India. Yo, that's all he is. He's a piece of shit billionaire. He really is. You know who else is- Yo, Tony Starks is a piece of shit too. He's all his robots. All that fucking technology he was doing, it was all AI. All AI. You know, hiring over. Go hide some goddamn kids to help you. Thank you. Thank you, bro. This shit is crazy. Then he makes more robots to make his robots. To make other robots. You can't hire one other dude to make some robots. His assistant is a robot. Wow. How crazy is that? Wow. And you know how convenient this motherfucker is? He married his secretary. If we really think about it, man, not only did he beat up poor people, Batman beat up disabled because Penguin could definitely have gotten a check. Definitely gotten a check. Joker had mental health issues. Riddler definitely had mental health issues. Mental health, yeah. Fucking, Mr. Freeze was just cold. Hand him a fucking blanket. Yo, defund Batman, son. Defund motherfucker, yeah. Clearly didn't have a father. She just wanted some love. She just wanted some love. She's old and sexually sexualized for no reason. She just wanted a goddamn hug. Somebody to love her. That's it. Why was the suit so tight? Where the fuck was Robin's parents? You know where they were, bro. Where the fuck was Robin's parents? You know where they were, bro. Oh, why do you want to talk about that, but where was Robin's parents? Batman probably killed them. Batman probably killed them. He probably did. Probably did. Why was he an orphan? Because of you. That's the story they don't want to tell. Yeah, you want to talk about stealing little boys. That's it, man. Bruce Wayne wanted some dick. He might have. Dick Grayson. I mean, yeah, bring a little boy to a Batcave. In the dark? That's a little frightening dog. Let him drive knowing you don't have no license. You know what I mean? Dress him up in a nice little outfit. Little colorful outfit. Wait a minute. What the Batcave? Wait, really? Never, never land? I didn't know if he was describing the Batcave or a fucking never, never land. What the fuck? Two of the animals there? Yeah, we got bats, yeah. I'll tell you, we got to cancel Batman, bro. Yo, cancel Batman, man. Batman problematic is fucked. He's really problematic. Bruce Wayne? Problematic, bro. Batman problematic is fucked, y'all. He is. All right, 100%. As always, if you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast, and think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace.