 It's very common to say to the Christian, you were raised to believe in God. That's considered justification for dismissing it. Imagine the reason you believe in God or you don't believe in God is all just a series of particle interactions and this was decided for you long before you were born. Do you believe all your thoughts are determined? I'm not entirely sure. You'd be open to supernatural. That's not what I'm saying. I am open to whatever might be true. They're not really naturalists. You're just saying I don't know. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm holding the position that there's no supernatural because no one's ever been able to demonstrate that. Frauds, falses, and fallacies are not evidence and that's all I've ever seen. Do you have something to show that there is? I would regard that as off topic. You still have the burden of proof. If all you can do is tell me that I can't prove that there's not magic, that tells me that you can't prove that there is.