 News's ongoing coverage of Israel at war. I'm Ariel Levin Waldman. The IDF is calling on residents of large swathes of communists to leave and to move further south as combat operations renew deeper into Gaza. The Israeli Air Force continues to pound terror targets across the Gaza Strip, hundreds being hit each day as the military regains momentum after the week-long ceasefire ended. Hamas has continued to fire rockets into Israel with daily evening barrages deep into Israel's center, underscoring that they still have significant military capabilities. Another two Israeli soldiers have fallen in battle against the enemy in Gaza named as Ashwalu Shama and Orbrandas, bringing the total to 71 that have died since the ground operation began. The IDF has announced that much of Hamas's underground fortresses in the north of Gaza have been destroyed. They've taken out more than 500 tunnel shafts since the war began. Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the war will not end until Hamas is destroyed and all hostages are returned and also promises to create a deep security buffer zone inside the Gaza Strip, which brings him into direct conflict with the United States, which has ordered Israel not to displace any Gazans or to reduce the total territory of Gaza. This is all happening as the fight in the north is heating up again, a number of Israeli soldiers injured in the past few hours after his ball of fire and anti-tank guided missile at the northern community of Beit Hilal. But we are going to begin in the south where our defense correspondent Jonathan Regav is standing by just outside the border town of Sterot. Jonathan, walk us through the latest developments on the southern front. Quite a lot of rocket alert sirens through the morning in the afternoon area, at least 10 different instances all along the Gaza border, Beit Niroz, Nireem, Sterot, all of the communities along the Gaza border experiencing a red alert sirens, indicating that the war is back after a week-long ceasefire, which saw more than 100 Israelis return from captivity. And Hamas, as you mentioned, proving it still has the ability to shoot way, way past the border communities, sirens sounding through the weekend in communities such as Ashdod and even in Tel Aviv last night. So that's a situation here in the south. The war is back along with everything that we've seen before that ceasefire began nearly 10 days ago. And Jonathan, what's being accomplished on the round since the war swung back into full scale again? I think we're now seeing preparations for a full-on deployment to the southern part of the Gaza strip. It's not by chance that you mentioned the city of Hanyunas. It's the second largest city in the Gaza strip and the largest one in the southern part. There's an understanding that just like the Israeli forces entered with ground forces to the city of Gaza, Hanyunas will probably come next. Well, thank you very much Jonathan for helping us understand what the latest developments in the war are and what's going to be happening next. Now we are going to continue that while the ceasefire is over, Israel has said the IDF is open to another ceasefire for Haasjah's deal. But despite that the goals of this war have not changed. Let's listen to the Prime Minister. Very harshly under fire from morning tonight from night to morning, but we have yet to complete this mission. We will continue to fight with all our might. We have prepared for that. The IDF is prepared for that for the final and total defeat of Hamas. And help us understand this better. We are joined in studio by Colonel Grisha Ukubowitz, former head of civilian department at Koga at the IDF. Thank you very much Grisha for being in the studio with us. Now one of the things that's been hanging over us for the past week now has been that ceasefire and how that was going to impact Israel's goals. Now that the ceasefire is over, is there a way to assess how much momentum was lost or if it's impacted Israel's ability to complete this war in any way? You know the Israeli government stated that the most important mission is to free the kidnapped civilians. There were two ways to start and do that. Either you do it under fire, you continue the war and you push them to the corner and then they will ask you to stop or to get the pause or the ceasefire and to release the prisoners or there is the way that was chosen diplomacy. So using diplomacy the government of Israel succeeded to release 100 civilians who were kidnapped and now they are returning to the first way that is the second option fire and it will happen yes or no under fire when Hamas will fill the rope around their neck. But let's see how it will continue. Let's see how much time of how much legitimacy the state of Israel will have to continue this pressure on Hamas until we will reach to that point that they will say okay stop the war and get them. I hope that we will be able to get to that point. And that's actually I want to continue a little bit more but bring another angle into this discussion. That's the United States and their pressure on Israel because the stance of US leadership has been somewhat confusing. A vow of ironclad support on one hand but on the other a list of conditions that make ending the war extremely difficult. Statements by the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken that Israel could have just weeks to finish the war but also demanding less damaging air power be used. Also it must be done without displacing civilians or causing collateral damage while not displacing those very same civilians. After those seemingly contradictory statements US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin repeated that despite this American support is non-negotiable. You see in this kind of a fight the center of gravity is the civilian population. And if you drive them into the arms of the enemy you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat. So I have repeatedly made clear to Israel's leaders that protecting Palestinian civilians in Gaza is both a moral responsibility and a strategic imperative. The United States will remain Israel's closest friend in the world. Our support for Israel's security is non-negotiable and it never will be. And we turn back to Colonel Yacuba. How do you make this set of demands? On one hand you can't displace civilians on the other hand if you can't displace them you also can't cause collateral damage in a war zone where civilians can't be displaced from. The US says you only have possibly weeks to end the war but also you can't engage in the overwhelming firepower that could win the war in a matter of weeks. What do you do? Simple. You spread powder of magic. How to do it? It's very complicated. You know if we remember when the war started the IDF asked all the northern population to move to the south. So now actually the population in Kanyunas and Rafah is doubled. This is why Israel created this new map you know with sectors, with the quarters, numbers. It will take a little bit of times, few days until the Gaza's will understand what the IDF means and it's going to be a surgical war. So on one hand we will see force and a lot of force in places that are clean from civilians and then we will see the IDF dissecting the Gaza Strip to three parts. We will see the northern part of the Gaza Strip, the center, it's the refugee camps in Berbala and then the southern part that will also be divided to two different parts and we will see around the clock people moving from sector to sector in the IDF surgically targeting Hamas targets. It's going to be difficult, complicated, but as I said with this magic powder I believe that the IDF will be able to do it and we will minimize casualties. Now let's be just just one comment. We are the only army in the world that we are able and we have shown this capability to fight surgical war when you deal with an error with the terror entity and this is something that we will have to say support our IDF. But Hamas will also have access to the same maps and the same warnings. Can't they just move their fighters out of an area of operations then move them back after the bombing? Yes of course they can but it means they will be exposed. So you use everything to win this war. Well we are going to continue the discussion in a brief moment. First though we are going to turn our eye to the northern border which is also heating up as well. Our Middle East correspondent Ariel Oceran is standing by in the north to tell us just what's going on there fighting has resumed with Hezbollah as well. Right Ariel so as you were reporting at the top of the hour of a rocket barrage towards southern Israel simultaneously there was a barrage of rockets launched towards northern Israel towards the central part of the Israel Lebanon border still no word of injuries or damage as a result of that rocket barrage but it's the first strike along the border after a two-hour low following multiple Hezbollah attacks on various parts along the border. In one of these attacks multiple anti-tank missiles were launched at the border community of Beit Hilal according to the IDF. Several soldiers were wounded in that incident albeit lightly due to shrapnel from the launches in addition to that three IDF border outposts on the east most part of the border in the Mount Dov and Shaba Farms area they were targeted by Hezbollah as well no reports of injuries from there but as you can as you said another day of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah along the Israel Lebanon border and indeed that is the case just a few minutes ago with this latest barrage of rockets towards the border the area of Zahit in the central part of the Israel Lebanon border not just Hezbollah in Lebanon though we're also hearing reports of rocket fire from Syria over at the weekend and not just that also allegedly Israeli air strikes on the airport in Damascus yet again right so the airport in Damascus was a day before but as for the strikes on Syria southern Syria indeed IDF firing artillery shells towards the area of Beit Jein that is southwest of the capital Damascus now according to Syrian opposition media this is an area of a Hezbollah stronghold and the IDF's artillery shelling of the area came in response to one rocket that was fired overnight from the era to northern Israel now it it is possible that that rocket was fired by Hezbollah or pro-Palestinian groups but indeed the launch of a single rocket from an area known to be a Hezbollah stronghold could be an indication or a message sent to Israel that if Hezbollah wants to target Israel from Syrian territory it can do that too. Ariel for that point because you brought up that it was a Hezbollah stronghold Hezbollah is caught in a rock and a hard place in joining the war from Lebanon because that would mean that Beirut gets leveled and they don't want that but it's an indication they could be more than willing to actually launch a war from Syria which is largely already leveled. Well I mean that still remains to be seen because as if we're looking at the rate of fire originating from Syria or Lebanon you can't compare the two Hezbollah striking from Lebanon is on a daily basis if there isn't a ceasefire we're talking about at least 10 strikes a day yesterday there were 11 strikes and the eve of the ceasefire there were over 20 we are not seeing those kinds of numbers from Syria yesterday could be a potential signal that Hezbollah does intend to do in fact what you're saying and try to open up another front with Israel in Syria but as for the the intensity of its attacks it is definitely originating mainly almost entirely from Lebanon and that continues to take place also today also just 13 minutes ago with the latest barrage of rockets originating from Lebanon. Now it's a hot zone so keep yourself safe out there Ariel thank you very much for those updates from the front. Thanks. We're going to return to the studio with Colonel Yacupovits as well. I want to turn our attention to the north guys who our reporter was just talking about and we're now seeing very likely Hezbollah activity from Syria as well what sort of deployment what sort of capabilities and what sort of armaments does Hezbollah in Syria have compared to their assets in Lebanon. Well I'm not sure that in Syria this is Hezbollah it looks like it's Iran let's not forget I think that yesterday or tonight two Iranian consultants were killed from an airstrike but this is the this is the let's say the the the short picture let's look at it let's look at it a little bit wider so it's a it's some sort of a war of messaging to each other we've seen a I don't know if it's f16 or f35 Israelis flying above Beirut it's a it's a message it's a clear message to Lebanon the attacks on American bases were renewed so there was another attack and then northern part of Syria so so there is something going on around us that is a little bit bigger and a little bit more coordinating than what is just happening here because there were rockets from a barrage of rockets from Gaza but also from Lebanon at the same time so it's it looks like it's like you know it's like a package deal that all is coordinated together by somebody that looks at hold picture and that's Iran and ultimately how are they going to remove Iran from the equation here I mean you can keep on striking at Hamas but that's not going to actually end the Iranian influence Hezbollah needs to be pushed out behind the line from the UN resolution 1701 but again they're still going to be there and gathering more and more weapons courtesy of Iran is Israel going to take the war directly to Iran's assets or are they going to just hope they go away Well I don't think that Israel is going to do that because there are clear messages from the United States not to escalate the situation in the Middle East because the United States want to avoid from a war in the Middle East period as it sounds so yes what we see and what we hear is about diplomacy in the Middle East and the one we hear about efforts by the UN by the states to to enforce decision I think 1701 or something of the UN that the Hezbollah will move to the Littani line and Saudi Arabia is trying to buy or to bribe or to offer to Iran a deal that will a lot of money will be involved in that and to see either it will be in interest so yes we can see diplomacy in the Middle East I think it will fail and the only way and the only way to succeed is by force and a lot of force this is the language in the Middle East and to the ones who don't understand it they will have to face it themselves and because you brought up some of those points of mixed American messaging I do want to move back to the south one of the big sticking points between Israel and the United States I think going forward is going to be the idea of a buffer zone around Gaza the United States demanding that Gaza's territory not reduced but Israel saying that there must be a buffer zone after the war what exactly does that mean what would that look like a buffer zone I think we can see uh under a creation a real time it's it's it's we can already see some of the fighting of some of the wars the some of the war that Israel is conducting at the Gaza Strip that this security parameter is already being created from the western part from the beach we can see it from the north in the area of the area with the Israeli bulldozers flapping the grounder and we see that the idea is asking the people that live at the eastern part of the area to move to the to the west also to the area of the Mawasi or to the south the meaning is that there will be some sort of a security perimeter of one to two kilometers from the green line into Gaza that there will be actually two fences and a very clean security zone that whoever enters there will be killed in the future so the idea is fighting and trying to eliminate Hamas while already creating the picture of how the Gaza Strip will look like at the end of the war well we are going to take a quick look at what that might look like but before we do I do want to ask when you talk about anyone entering this zone we're not talking about passive defenses like a wall anymore like existed before October 7th what sort of active measures is the military going to employ to make sure that a buffer zone is actually a buffer zone I think that this time we will see a combination between technology and soldiers that is the the biggest difference in the past the idea was dependent on technology you know fences walls detectors cameras and reducing manpower being because the idea relied on those abilities of technologies what we all understood that it it fell but if you combine between the best technologies in the world and soldiers boots on the ground I think that this is something that we will have to keep for a few years until the situation in Gaza will stabilize somehow and I want to look at exactly what that means how close to the border some of these communities actually are our correspondent Eurasia Pira went to Nahal Oz it combats just on the border and one of the most severely damaged October 7th here's a look inside at what that community suffered October 7th caught the entire country by surprise in Kibbutz Nahal Oz one of the places closest to the Gaza border the surprise was even bigger we woke up around 6 a.m my partner told me that there is a red alert I wasn't very excited about it I said okay we've experienced these situations we'll walk it out so we entered the safe room the first message I got was from a friend who texted me that his wife was injured eventually she died from her wounds the door was closed but I suppose that it wouldn't matter to them I guess that they realized that we are old people there is not much to do with us so they went to other places Yachiel Chelnov is one of the founders of Nahal Oz he is close to his 90s but still very active when we established the Kibbutz we concentrated on agriculture and indeed we had very good agriculture we have one of the best dairy industries at least it was until the war but it is still working it's the first time I'm living the Kibbutz we had security issues when you evacuated young families with the kids or whoever wanted to go but never like this Kibbutz Nahal Oz was the first Nahal settlement a collective community of veterans of the IDF's Nahal brigade who combined military service and building communities across the country in the early days the Kibbutz was considered one of the most famous in Israel as leaders and officials visited it one of the most famous incidents occurred in 1956 when a member of the Kibbutz Roy Rothenberg was brutally killed by Egyptian forces the eulogy of Moshe Dayan then chief of staff became one of the most iconic speeches in the history of Israel early yesterday morning Roy was murdered the quiet of the spring morning dazzled him and he did not see those waiting in ambush for him at the edge of the furrow let us not cast the blame on the murderers today why should we declare their burning hatred for us for eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza and before their eyes we have been transforming the land and the villages where they and their fathers dwelt into our state it is not among the Arabs in Gaza but in our own midst that we must seek Roy's blood how did we shut our eyes and refuse to look squarely at our fate and see in all its brutality the destiny of our generation in 2014 another traumatic event happened when four-year-old Daniel Tragman died from a missile sent from Gaza the Kibbutz was about to celebrate 70 years since its founding with a special ceremony ironically the main show was a play which shows two women spotters who were cut off from their cameras we were supposed to have a big celebration marking 70 years of the kibbutz on friday we had rehearsals for the show the plot where the spotters are disconnected it seems like a crazy story for me but this is what happened eventually around 35 people were murdered in Nachalos on october 7th today residents of the kibbutz are staying in another kibbutz in the north Mishmar Hayamek and are waiting to decide on their next step as Nachalos remains a closed military zone and we're gonna turn back to Grisha because we've been talking about buffer zones but right now the buffer zone seems to be on israel's side of the border they've had to evacuate just about every single town within five kilometers i believe is the range they're using of the border area and nobody's going to come back until the threat is neutralized but even if when Hamas is neutralized or broken from power there's still the fact that they are right on the border with Gaza how deep do you have to create a buffer zone before these communities are truly safe from a surprise raid it will take time we are talking about the process that it's not going to end in three four five weeks or even not five months it's going to take time so if and if Israel will be able to complete the mission to make sure that Hamas will be eliminated in the Gaza Strip there will be still a period of time that i cannot tell you how much it can be six months it can take two years or three years that Israel will be responsible on that border we will see many soldiers on that border and until a new entity will somehow succeed to take control in Gaza and that they will make sure that the reality in Gaza the people's life in Gaza would be changed not only top down you know as policies governments giving orders or creating peace from top down but also from the bottom up it means we will have to make sure that the education is different no incitement teaching the people you know to adopt prosperity and life and not to adopt hate murder and terror it's a very tall order going forward because unless the minute left we have entire UN agencies like UNRWA which is directly funneling money in to teach hate to generations UNRWA are dealing with refugees this is also something that we must put an end when i say we start on Israel it's the world you know there is a good example to that there is a town in the west bank called Rawabi private sector built it it means Palestinians can build their own cities their own town with private money with no UN aid or support they can do it alone so let's move let's move ahead let's let's put all the bad things the wagon okay at the back and let's keep it at the backyard and let's look forward and build a better future a brighter future to both Palestinians and Israelis. To do that the war has to be won first and as you said that's not going to be any time soon Grisha thank you very much for that analysis for everyone else though we are just about out of time we will see you again in just about a half hour that's four o'clock for local time for our next broadcast until then thanks for watching we will see you again soon Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well dozens of correspondents throughout the world brings the truth from Israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries completely done down in their beds the state of emergency and war in Israel bringing Israel's story to the world i24 news channels now on hot news is ongoing coverage of Israel at war i'm the id app is calling on residents of large swaths of khanunists to leave and to move further south as combat operations renew deeper into gaza the israeli air force continues to pound terror targets across the gaza strip hundreds being hit each day as the military regains momentum after the week-long ceasefire ended hamas has continued to fire rockets into israel with daily evening barrages deep into israel's center underscoring that they still have significant military capabilities another two israeli soldiers have fallen in battle against the enemy in gaza named as ashla lushama and or brandis bringing the total to 71 that have died since the ground operation began the id app has announced that much of hamas's underground fortresses in the north of gaza have been destroyed they've taken out more than 500 tunnel shafts since the war began israel's prime minister benjamin indian who says the war will not end until hamas is destroyed and all hostages are returned and also promises to create a deep security buffer zone inside the gaza strip which brings him into direct conflict with the united states which has ordered israel not to displace any gaza's or to reduce the total territory of gaza this is all happening as the fight in the north is heating up again a number of israeli soldiers injured in the past few hours after his balla fired an anti-tank guided missile at the northern community of bait hillow but we are going to begin in the south where our defense correspondent jonathan reggae is standing by just outside the border town of sterot jonathan walk us through the latest developments on the southern front quite a lot of rocket alert sirens through the morning in the afternoon are at least 10 different instances all along the gaza border beat neroz nereem sterot all of the communities along the gaza border experiencing a red alert sirens indicating that the war is back after a a week long ceasefire which saw more than 100 israeli's return from captivity and hamas as you mentioned proving it still has the ability to shoot way way past the border communities sirens sounding through the weekend in communities such as ashdod and even intel aviv last night so that's that's a situation here in the south the war is back along with everything that we've seen before that ceasefire began nearly 10 days ago and jonathan what's being accomplished on the round since the war swung back into full scale again i think we're now seeing preparations for a full-on a deployment to the southern part of the gaza strip it's not by chance that you mentioned the the city of hanyunas it's the second largest city in the gaza strip and the largest one in the southern part there's an understanding that just like Israeli forces entered with ground forces to the city of gaza hanyunas will probably come next well thank you very much jonathan for helping us understand what the latest developments in the war are and what's going to be happening next now we are going to continue that while the ceasefire is over israel has said the idf is open to another ceasefire for hostages deal but despite that the goals of this war have not changed let's listen to the prime minister very harshly under fire from morning to night from night to morning but we have yet to complete this mission we will continue to fight with all our might we have prepared for that the idf is prepared for that for the final and total defeat of hamas and help us understand this better we are joined in studio by colonel grisha yukubowitz former head of civilian department at koga at the idf thank you very much grisha for being in the studio with us now one of the things that's been hanging over us for the past week now has been that ceasefire and how that was going to impact israel's goals now that the ceasefire is over is there a way to assess how much momentum was lost or if it's impacted israel's ability to complete this war in any way you know the israeli government stated that the most important mission is to free the kidnapped civilians there were two ways to start and do that either you do it under fire you continue the war and you push them to the corner and then they will ask you to stop or to get the pause or the ceasefire and to release the prisoners or there is the way that was chosen diplomacy so using diplomacy the government of israel succeeded to release 100 civilians working and now they are returning to the first way that is the second option fire and it will happen yes or no under fire when hamas will feel the rope around their neck but let's see let's see how it will continue let's see how much time of how much legitimacy the state of israel will have to continue this pressure or hamas until we will reach to that point that they will say okay stop the war and get them i hope that we will be able to get to that point and that's actually i want to continue a little bit more but bring another angle into this discussion that's the united states and their pressure on israel because the stance of us leadership has been somewhat confusing a vow of ironclad support on one hand but on the a list of conditions that make ending the war extremely difficult statements by the us secretary of state anthony blinkin that israel could have just weeks to finish the war but also demanding less damaging air power be used also it must be done without displacing civilians or causing collateral damage while not displacing those very same civilians after those seemingly contradictory statements us secretary of defense Lloyd austin repeated that despite this american support is non-negotiable you see in this kind of a fight the center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat so i have repeatedly made clear to israel's leaders that protecting palestinian civilians in gaza is both a moral responsibility and a strategic imperative the united states will remain israel's closest friend in the world our support for israel's security is non-negotiable and it never will be and we turn back to carnal ukubo what's how do you make this set of demands on one hand you can't displace civilians on the other hand if you can't displace them you also can't cause collateral damage in a war zone where civilians can't be displaced from the US says you only have possibly weeks to end the war but also you can't engage in the overwhelming firepower that could win the war in a matter of weeks what do you do simple you spread powder of magic how to do it it's very complicated you know if we remember when the war started the idea has asked all the northern population to move to the south so now actually the population in canyons and rafa is doubled this is why israel created this new map you know with sectors with the quarters numbers it will take a little bit of times few days until the gaza will understand what the idea of means and it's going to be a surgical war so on one hand we will see force and a lot of force in places that are clean from civilians and then we will see the IDF dissecting the gaza trip to three parts we will see the northern part of the gaza trip the center it's the refugee camps and the bala and then the southern part that will also be divided to two different parts and we will see around the clock people moving from sector to sector in the IDF surgically targeting hamas targets it's going to be difficult complicated but as i said with this magic powder i believe that the idea will be able to do it and we will minimize casualties now let's be just just one comment we are the only army in the world that we are able and we should have shown this capability to fight surgical war when you deal with an era with the terror entity and this is something that we will have to say support our idea but hamas will also have access to the same maps and the same warnings can't they just move their fighters out of an area of operations then move them back after the bombing yes of course they can but it means they will be exposed so you use everything to win this war well we are going to continue the discussion in a brief moment first though we are going to turn our eye to the northern border which is also heating up as well our Middle East correspondent Ariel Osiron is standing by in the north to tell us just what's going on there fighting has resumed with Hezbollah as well right Ariel so as you were reporting at the top of the hour of a rocket barrage towards southern israel simultaneously there was a barrage of rockets launched towards northern israel towards the central part of the israel-lebanon border still no word of injuries or damage as a result of that rocket barrage but it's the first strike along the border after a two-hour low following multiple Hezbollah attacks on various parts along the border and in one of these attacks multiple anti-tank missiles were launched at the border community of Beit Hilal according to the IDF several soldiers were wounded in that incident albeit lightly due to shrapnel from the launches in addition to that three IDF border outposts on the eastmost part of the border in the Mount Dov and Shaba farms area they were targeted by Hezbollah as well no reports of injuries from there but as you can as you said another day of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah along the israel-lebanon border and indeed that is the case just a few minutes ago with with this latest barrage of rockets towards the border the area of Zait in the central part of the israel-lebanon border not just Hezbollah in Lebanon though we're also hearing reports of rocket fire from Syria over at the weekend and not just that also allegedly israeli air strikes on the airport in Damascus yet again right so the airport in Damascus was a day before but as for the strikes on Syria southern Syria indeed IDF firing artillery shells towards the area of Beit Jean that is southwest of the capital Damascus now according to Syrian opposition media this is an area of a Hezbollah stronghold and the IDF's artillery shelling of the area came in response to one rocket that was fired overnight from the era to northern Israel now it it is possible that that rocket was fired by Hezbollah or pro-Palestinian groups but indeed the launch of a single rocket from an area known to be a Hezbollah stronghold could be an indication or a message sent to Israel that if Hezbollah wants to target Israel from Syrian territory it can do that too Ariel for that point because you brought up that it was a Hezbollah stronghold Hezbollah is caught in a rock in a hard place in joining the war from Lebanon because that would mean that Beirut gets leveled and they don't want that but it's an indication they could be more than willing to actually launch a war from Syria which is largely already leveled well I mean that still remains to be seen because as if we're looking at the rate of fire originating from Syria or Lebanon you can't compare the two Hezbollah striking from Lebanon is on a daily basis if there isn't a ceasefire we're talking about at least 10 strikes a day yesterday there were 11 strikes and the eve of the ceasefire there were over 20 we are not seeing those kinds of numbers from Syria yesterday could be a potential signal that Hezbollah does intend to do in fact what you're saying and try to open up another front with Israel in Syria but as for the the intensity of its attacks it is definitely originating mainly almost entirely from Lebanon and that continues to take place also today also just 13 minutes ago with this latest barrage of rockets originating from Lebanon now it's a hot zone so keep yourself safe at their ariel thank you very much for those updates from the front thanks we're going to return to the studio with colonel yukubovitz as well i want to turn our attention to the north guys who are a reporter was just talking about and we're now seeing very likely Hezbollah activity from Syria as well what sort of deployment what sort of capabilities and what sort of armaments to Hezbollah and Syria have compared to their assets in Lebanon well i'm not sure that in Syria this is Hezbollah it looks like it's Iran let's not forget i think that yesterday or tonight two Iranian consultants were killed from an airstrike but this is the this is the let's say the the the short picture let's look at it let's look at it a little bit wider so it's a it's some sort of a war of messaging to each other we've seen a i don't know if it's f16 or f35 israelis flying above berut it's a it's a message it's a clear message to lebanon the attacks on american bases were renewed so there was another attack and the northern part of syria so there is something going on around us that is a little bit bigger and a little bit more coordinated than what is just happening here because there were rockets from a barrage of rockets from Gaza but also from lebanon at the same time so it's it looks like it's like in a it's like a package deal that all is coordinated together by somebody that looks at hold picture and that's iran and ultimately how are they going to remove iran from the equation here i mean you can keep on striking at hamas but that's not going to actually end iranian influence hezbollah needs to be pushed out behind the line from the un resolution 1701 but again they're still going to be there and gathering more and more weapons courtesy of iran is israel going to take the war directly to iran's assets or are they going to just hope they go away well i don't think that israel is going to do that because there are clear messages from the united states not to escalate the situation in the middle east because the united states want to avoid from a war in the middle east period as it sounds so uh yes what we see and what we hear is about diplomacy in the middle east and the one we hear about efforts by the un biden states to to enforce decision i think 17 or something of the un that the hezbollah will move to the tani line and so do arabia is trying to buy or to bribe or to offer to iran a deal that will a lot of money will be involved in that and to see either it will be in interest so so yes we can see diplomacy in the middle east i think it will fail and the only way and the only way to succeed is by force and a lot of force this is the language in the middle east and to the ones who don't understand it they will have to face it themselves and because you brought up some of those points of mixed american messaging i do want to move back to the south one of the big sticking points between israel and the united states i think going forward is going to be the idea of a buffer zone around gaza the united states demanding that gaza's territory not reduced but israel's saying that there must be a buffer zone after the war what exactly does that mean what would that look like a buffer zone i think we can see uh under a creation a real time it's it's it's it's we can already see some of the fighting or some of the wars the some of the war that israel is conducting at the gaza strip that this security parameter is already being created from the western part from the beach uh we can see it from the north the area of betlahia el atatra sefer bethanon with the israeli bulldozers flapping the grounder and we see that the idea is asking the people that live at the eastern part of uh bani suhella el garras bani suhella and abasan to move to the to the west also to the area of the moasi or to the south the meaning is that there will be some sort of a security perimeter of one to two kilometers from the green line into gaza that there will be actually two fences and a very clean security zone that whoever enters there will be killed in the future so the idea is fighting and trying to eliminate hamas while already creating the picture of how the gaza strip will look like at the end of the war well we are going to take a quick look at what that might look like but uh before we do um i i do want to ask when you talk about anyone entering this zone we're not talking about passive defenses like a wall anymore like existed before october 7th what sort of active measures is the military going to employ to make sure that a buffer zone is actually a buffer zone i think that this time we will see a combination between technology and soldiers that is the the biggest difference in the past the idea was uh dependent on technology you know fences walls detectors cameras and reducing manpower being because the idea relied on those abilities of technologies what we all understood that it it fell but if you combine between the best technologies in the world and soldiers boots on the ground i think that this is something that we will have to keep for a few years until the situation gaza will stabilize somehow and i want to look at exactly what that means how close to the border some of these communities actually are our correspondent aria shapira went to nacho o's it inputs just on the border and one of the most severely damaged october 7th here's a look inside at what that community suffered october 7th caught the entire country by surprise in kibbutz nacho o's one of the places closest to the gaza border the surprise was even bigger and we woke up around 6 a.m my partner told me that there is a red alert i wasn't very excited about it i said okay we've experienced these situations we'll walk it out so we entered the safe room the first message i got was from a friend who texted me that his wife was injured eventually she died from her wounds the door was closed but i suppose that it wouldn't matter to them i guess that they realized that we are old people there is not much to do with us so they went to other places yechiel celnov is one of the founders of nacho o's he is close to his 90s but still very active when we established the kibbutz we concentrated on agriculture and indeed we had very good agriculture we have one of the best dairy industries at least it was until the war but it is still working it's the first time i'm leaving the kibbutz we had security issues when you evacuated young families with the kids or whoever wanted to go but never like this kibbutz nacho o's was the first nacho settlement a collective community of veterans of the idf's nacho brigade who combined military service and building communities across the country in the early days the kibbutz was considered one of the most famous in israel as leaders and officials visited it one of the most famous incidents occurred in 1956 when a member of the kibbutz rory rutenberg was brutally killed by egyptian forces the eulogy of moshe dayan then chief of staff became one of the most iconic speeches in the history of israel early yesterday morning roe was murdered the quiet of the spring morning dazzled him and he did not see those waiting in ambush for him at the edge of the furrow let us not cast the blame on the murderers today why should we declare their burning hatred for us for eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in gaza and before their eyes we have been transforming the land and the villages where they and their fathers dwelt into our state it is not among the arabs in gaza but in our own midst that we must seek roe's blood how did we shut our eyes and refuse to look squarely at our fate and see in all its brutality the destiny of our generation in 2014 another traumatic event happened when four-year-old daniel tragman died from a missile sent from gaza the kibbutz was about to celebrate 70 years since its founding with a special ceremony ironically the main show was a play which shows two women spotters who were cut off from their cameras we were supposed to have a big celebration marking 70 years of the kibbutz on friday we had rehearsals for the show the plot where the spotters are disconnected it seems like a crazy story for me but this is what happened eventually around 35 people were murdered in nachalos on october 7th today residents of the kibbutz are staying in another kibbutz in the north mishmar hayamek and are waiting to decide on their next step as nachalos remains a closed military zone and we're gonna turn back to grisha because we've been talking about buffer zones but right now the buffer zone seems to be on israel's side of the border they've had to evacuate just about every single town within five kilometers i believe is the range they're using of the border area and nobody's going to come back until the threat is neutralized but even if when hamas is neutralized or broken from power there's still the fact that they are right on the border with gaza how deep do you have to create a buffer zone before these communities are truly safe from a surprise raid it will take time we are talking about the process that it's not going to end in three four or five weeks or even not five months it's going to take time so if and if israel will be able to complete the mission to make sure that hamas will be eliminated in the gaza strip there will be still a period of time that i cannot tell you how much it can be six months it can take two years or three years that israel will be responsible on that border we will see many soldiers on that border and until a new entity will somehow succeed to take control in gaza and that they will make sure that the reality in gaza the people's life in gaza will be changed not only top down you know as policies governments giving orders or creating peace from top down but also from the bottom up it means we will have to make sure that the education is different no incitement teaching the people you know to adopt prosperity and life and not to adopt hate murder and terror it's a very tall order going forward because unless the minute left we have entire un agencies like unrah which is directly funneling money in to teach hate to generations unrah are dealing with refugees this is also something that we must put an end when i say we it's not only israel it's the world you know there is a good example to that there is a town in the west called rawabi private sector built it it means palestinians can build their own cities their own town with private money with no uh un aid or support they can do it alone so so let's move let's move ahead let's let's put all the bad things the wagon okay at the back and let's keep it at the backyard and let's look forward and build a better future a brighter future to both palestinians and israelis to do that the war has to be won first and as you said that's not going to be anytime soon risha thank you very much for that analysis for everyone else though we are just about out of time we will see you again in just about a half hour that's four o'clock local time for our next broadcast until then thanks for watching we will see you again soon in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she has our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well before news is ongoing coverage of israel at war i'm now calling on residents of large swaths of khan units to leave and to move further south as combat operations renew deeper into the gaza strip the air force continues to pound terror targets across the strip hundreds being hit every day as the military regains momentum after the week long ceasefire ended hamas has continued to fire rockets into israel with daily evening barrages even deep into israel's center which underscores that they still have significant military capabilities another two israeli soldiers have fallen in the battle against the enemy in gaza named as ashalu sama and or brandis bringing the total to 71 that have died since the ground operation began the idf has announced that much of hamas's underground fortresses in the north of gaza have been destroyed having taken out more than 500 tunnel shafts since the war began israeli prime minister benjamin nyahos saying the war will not end into hamas is destroyed and all hostages are returned and also promising to create a deep security buffer zone inside gaza bring him into direct conflict with the united states which has ordered israel not to displace any gazans or reduce the total territory of the gaza strip this is coming as the fight in the north is heating up again as well a number of israeli soldiers injured in the past few hours after his bullet fired an anti-tank guided missile at the northern community of bayt hillow new reports say a total of 11 people eight soldiers and three civilians were wounded in that attack but we are going to open with our eye on the south where our correspondent p.s. debilbach is standing by just on the outskirts of the border community of sterot pia walk us through the latest developments on the southern front in the fight against hamas right ariel well there was continuous rocket fire coming out of gaza really throughout the morning first and foremost targeting the border communities located alongside the gaza strip but also reaching as far as the ashkilon we can expect that to continue yesterday evening was a massive barrage also into the center of israel including tel aviv ariel you're right to say that the israeli military this morning called upon several areas of hanyunists in the south called upon residents there to evacuate to leave two areas further down south as this is part of the plan that the idea of instated after the ceasefire to separate the gaza strip into blocks and then call upon residents of specific blocks that will be targeted by the israeli military to evacuate to a sparrow to avoid more civilian casualties there but the sentiment on the ground in gaza is that people don't know where to go to that the south is extremely crowded and also safe institutions or safe places or such a place that are deemed safe such as u n schools are becoming more and more dense and it is very difficult for them to cope with the amount of people that are trying to flee but the israeli army also publishing a new statement this morning saying that since the beginning of the ground operation they located 800 tunnel shafts they destroyed 500 of them the israeli army statement also said that many of them were located in civilian areas such as around residential buildings and also mosques now the tunnel issue is one of the most complicated ones for the israeli military as we know that they assume that there are more than 130 remaining hostages might be located right in these tunnels so this is one of the major challenges how to deal with those tunnels without endangering the lives the lives of those hostages now you mentioned Benjamin Netanyahu said that this war will continue until the war goals are fulfilled which are majorly to demolish Hamas and to also bring those hostages back now how that will be combined and how that can be realized this is what the remaining weeks or the following weeks or days will actually show now that the ceasefire is over and the israeli military is clearly pushing further down south well thank you very much pia for that report from the south giving us the latest developments on that front for more on this though we are going to be joined in studio by colonel amit as a former member of the israeli security agency better known as the shin bet internal security agency i mean it's good to have you in the studio with us one of the things that we don't really do a lot when we're analyzing this conflict is getting inside the mind of hamas it was a conversation that i found fast and they were happening just before the show started i want to go deeper into that with what we've seen the idf accomplished so far in gaza what do we know about what hamas is thinking right now um actually um it's difficult for us as a western thinking um and the open mind of of the world to think like the hamas because they have ideology that is different of us and the ideology is radical islam that put the islam in front of everything and also in front of human life as we can see they can put human life in front of them to be a shield of them and this is not an unusual thing so if we are getting into their mind in this kind of a second action of of the the army getting into action into the south of gaza it's make some pressure on the on the hamas members but they care nothing about the civilians and more if the civilians will get hurt it's better for them because they can show it to the world and uh it's not hurting them really uh in their feelings i think that uh they had the time in the period of time that we have uh break to get out and to see things at the outside and to see what happens but again it's not in the aspect of humanitarian it's not in the aspect of building of um destroying apartments or houses of people it's more in the aspect of what can we do next in our operation uh in the war so they were analyzing what they can and what they can't and they analyze also the tunnel system where can they put them in and from where can they surprise us getting out because we had as you can see the idf spokesman speak about 800 beers that we found already but uh it's maybe a lot of beers more and they can surprise the army from the back and from the side and we have to be attention with it and we saw that uh if we are getting into the the mind of them nothing is bothering them yet and uh in the aspect of course of uh humanitarian uh if it it comes to the uh Palestinian humanitarian or Israeli humanitarian things uh they don't care really they are thinking about themselves and the idea of uh islamic radical to get all israel from from the river to the sea as they can that said we've seen that as fanatical as they are not all of them is willing to commit to a fight they cannot win we've seen videos of them surrendering we know that a large number have been taken alive are there weaknesses in their jihadist mindset that can be exploited by security services by the shin bet to win in the fight i think that within the fight when we are catching somebody alive it's better for us because we can interrogate him and they have a lot of information that we need especially for the hostages places because we have two major thing that we need information and intelligence information about it is where are they uh kept keeping the the hostages and the other thing were the tunnels were the system and how it works and whereas the the head of the commander of the the Hamas so when you catch some person some member of Hamas you're interrogating very deeply on these two major intelligence point of view another question that's related to that one is how often do we find that they are willing to surrender versus how often do they fight to the death um it's it's kind of interesting to to talk about it because when you are giving an assignment for a suicide bombers so he knows that he go to kill himself and this is the mind that you are putting in his mind this idea for a long time and you're giving him the opportunity to do it and he will be a Shahid and he will have a lot of benefits from that it's a brainwash but still when you see the lowest members of the Hamas when they are fight they care for their lives so they will be surrendered if they see that it's a dead end for them and we saw it also in the tunnel that they got out they didn't fight until the last bullet as we can say they saw that the situation is a dead end they raise their hand they want to be alive because they know also that in our jail it will not be the end of the world for them it's a good life it's not like jail in their position so they think also on good life and and major of them it's the lowest soldiers in the Hamas and we see that they will surrender we're going to continue this discussion in just a moment but first I want to turn our attention to the northern border our correspondent Zach Anders is standing by in the north where we have seen a very rapid escalation today Zach walk us through what we've seen happen on the fight in the northern border against Hezbollah sure we've seen now the fifth strike of the day attributed to Hezbollah claims that they continue to fire upon Israeli positions several of these military bases here along the northern border we're also seeing the IDF say has been injured in the afternoon several of those being soldiers potentially civilians as well we're waiting for official confirmation of these numbers earlier reports indicated that they were lightly injured the soldiers were lightly injured an ATGM strike this is a anti-tank guided missile these are personnel rockets from Hezbollah fighters as they target positions Israeli positions here on the northern border but it's not just coming from Hezbollah in Lebanon as well there was reportedly rocket fire from Syria as well what do we know about that incident right this fire from Syria as well is potentially tied to some of the strikes that we're seeing inside Syria retaliatory strikes that have taken place in the last several days trying to what the IDF says is a strategy of eliminating the points of origin of previous launches we are still waiting on the specifics of what exactly this projectile was if it could have been a drone or a rocket the IDF has yet to confirm specifically what kind of weapon was used coming out of Syria before it apparently was either intercepted or perhaps failed because there was no reports of damage however we still have yet to receive confirmation as to what exactly the course of action was to address this specific launch but it would be characteristic of what has been happening here again the IDF policy of targeting with using the intelligence apparatus that's located here in the north to identify where these launches come from both in Lebanon and in Syria and striking wherever these projectiles drones rockets what have you wherever they were launched and you know if there's any word on who the group responsible for the launch from Syria might have been Hezbollah IRGC any of the other militias in the area and what the significance of each group would be if it was that one that fired it right still still waiting on the official IDF confirmation tying this to whichever specific group but you're right it is important to know who exactly is firing and from where Hezbollah of course has been taking credit for several of the strikes here today but in the last several days and especially before the ceasefire they were not taking credit for all of the strikes that we were counting and was being independently reported throughout the north here as there are several factions especially in southern Lebanon that continue to operate with impunity and an attempt to strike and then move or retreat deep into Lebanon so day in one place they aren't firing on Israeli targets and then staying put and waiting for that retaliatory strike well thank you very much Zach for that report from the northern border and we will be back with you a little later in the day now during all of this there have been some confusing to say the least statements coming from America's leaders on one hand a vow of ironclad support for Israel in the war something that's already been seen with carrier strike groups in the region and a warning to regional players on the other hand there's been a list of conditions that make ending the war extremely difficult after statements from US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken that Israel could have just weeks to finish the war while also demanding less use of the air power used to end the war quickly it's also has to be done without displacing civilians or by causing any collateral damage while not displacing any civilians from that war zone after those seemingly contradictory statements you have Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin repeated that despite this America's support is non-negotiable you see in this kind of a fight the center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat so I have repeatedly made clear to Israel's leaders that protecting Palestinian civilians in Gaza is both a moral responsibility and a strategic imperative the United States will remain Israel's closest friend in the world our support for Israel's security is non-negotiable and it never will be and we're going to return that to Colonel Amit Asa I want to talk about the American involvement here because the statements are as I suggested a little bit contradictory on one hand don't cause collateral damage on the other hand don't you dare move civilians from the war zone on one hand you have a few weeks to finish this on the other hand well we have your back no matter what but also don't use the heavy bombing campaign needed to finish this quickly how is Israel supposed to fight a war when we're seeing these contradictory statements from Israel's main backer mainly what I think about it is that the United States give us a full card to do whatever we need to do but in another hand they can't stand on the side and not saying something about civilians that get being hurt so they say something it's something that they have to say but they are not pressing Israel to do something against the security of the forces the security of the people the safety of soldiers at the field it's important because we know that if we want to get on the ground with the troops we need first to bomb it from the air and bombing from the air meaning casualties also sometimes people that doesn't belong to the Hamas members still Israel is doing the most that he can and the most that anybody is doing in the world to put civilians out of war zone and in the same time Hamas is putting the same civilians in front of them as a shield so we have to to move between the drops you know and to do whatever we can to save innocent people but we in another hand we can't pay with our own soldiers because we didn't bomb enough before we got into a war zone I mean I want to say I want to hear it does sound like you're saying it's just words to mollify the American constituency but we did see even at the meetings between Blinken and Israel's leadership him telling them not telling the American people that there could just be weeks left what can realistically be accomplished in that time frame I think that again is the same and Israel is determined it determined not just the political a people like a prime minister and the ministry of defense and whoever is in the top is coming it's coming from the from the bottom it's coming from the the field it's coming from the people from the society society is not gonna stand and stop before the Hamas will will turn down so it's something that the politicals can't do nothing about it so any pressure that will have from united states even if it will be truth and even if it will be very hard people in Israel will not stand will not stop and this is the way I think this war will go on and as fast as we can we will do it but still we know how and we know uh is secure uh of our soldiers so we have to to think about it I'm gonna bring in another angle here the international criminal court has finally weighed in on the Gaza war and unusually for that body on Israel's side ICC prosecutor Kareem Khan visited Israel and toured Kibbutz Be'eri and Kfar Azza these two sites were the worst atrocities commit on october 7th including the most sadistic of crimes against humanity Khan called the attacks against innocent civilians quote representing some of the most serious international crimes that shock the conscience of humanity crimes the ICC was established to address he also added that these locations alongside the nova music festival were nearly 400 civilians were massacred were scenes of calculated cruelty Khan told the families of victims that the court will work to hold the perpetrators accountable for these actions I mean I'm going to turn back to you I'm not really sure how much good statements like this actually do in the conflict because Hamas is a terror organization they don't have rules organizations like the international criminal court saying well yeah they commit evil actions does it have any meaning yeah it doesn't have any meaning especially for the Hamas okay they will not have to pay any price for the crimes in a way of thinking of a law international law or something like that because they will not prosecute because they are nothing they are just a terror organization they are not a state Israel we can sue in the law of the international law but Hamas and again it doesn't matter for them it doesn't matter for them any law any law of crime any any perspective of of legal or not legal they're thinking other way they're thinking unhumane humanitarian in a way that we can't think like that and we saw the massacre we saw what they did we saw the the vicious thing that they did and we can think about if somebody can speak about if they are they are under the law or above the law it doesn't matter for them as someone who has spent a career getting inside the enemy's hair ultimately are there any levers that can be used against them that aren't simply brute force what do we have in addition to that I think what works is when somebody strikes you and Hamas also thinks like that if you strike him unproportionately it makes him think about the other step second time if we we hit if he hits us for one strike and we will hit him 10 times more next time he will think if he will do it again and this is the only way that we can deal with that kind of enemy we have to put in his mind that he have something to lose losing in the aspect of islamic radical is losing land of course and as we can see if people are moving from the north side of Gaza Strip to the south for them is the end of the war because they are losing land this is the most important for them so if you know that this kind of a thing is hurting them you have to hurt them in that kind of thing because this is the only way for them to say okay now we stop we will not behave like that in the future let's hope that they can get the message and that it's sent very loud and clear this time thank you very much and after about two months after Hamas's infiltration and raid brutally massacred Israelis and foreign nationals Israelis who were kidnapped during that assault and have now been freed as part of the hostage for ceasefire deal are speaking out about the horrors that they experienced and witnessed while in Hamas captivity our Erica Jackson has these stories for us nearly two months after Hamas's brutal attack in Israel on October 7th freed Israeli hostages are now telling first-hand accounts of what it was like being kidnapped and taken into the Gaza Strip among those sharing stories of being taken captive and held under life-threatening conditions are 85-year-old Yulchevid Lipschitz and 84-year-old Dietza Haiman The last time I was kidnapped in the new year, I went to Magyashar to see who was there. Those who have been freed also detailing the mental anguish of what it was like to be held against their will including 44-year-old Danielle Eloni who was kidnapped with her five-year-old daughter Amelia There is no time today, there is no peace, there is no change, there is no life, all the time that goes by is a joke that will not come true. Those who have been freed echoing the same message that time is running out. More details are likely to emerge about October 7th as more of those who were kidnapped are expected to share their stories as well. And we're going to end on some unconfirmed reports at this time but there are some allegations that Israeli ground troops are now operating in the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. The footage that's been posted to social media seems to show Israeli tanks on the Salah Adin Road that's Gaza's main north to south highway and operating between Deir al-Bala and Khan Yunus. Now this footage is coming as both Hamas and the Islam-Jihad terror groups claim to have clashed with IDF soldiers in the area of northeast Khan Yunus today as the war is expanding deeper into the Gaza Strip and Israel resumes operating beyond just the northern parts of the Strip in Gaza City. This is the expansion of the war that's been promised by the military over the course of the past weeks. Now materializing as the military said that much of the work in the north has been accomplished. That said we are out of time for now but join us again in our next broadcast that's five o'clock p.m. local time that's in just about a half hour from now. So until then thanks for watching and I'll see you again very soon. News 24 in Espanol brings the analysis and the information about the events of the war Spadas de Hierro. News 24, the only medium in Espanol that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News 24, only on I24 News. Daddy F. now calling on residents of large swaths of Khan Yunus to leave and to move further south as combat operations renew deeper into the Gaza Strip. The Air Force continues to pound terror targets across the Strip hundreds being hit every day as the military regains momentum after the week long ceasefire ended. Hamas has continued to fire rockets into Israel with daily evening barrages even deep into Israel's center which underscores that they still have significant military capabilities. Another two Israeli soldiers have fallen in the battle against the enemy in Gaza named as Ashalu Samma and Orbrandes bringing the total to 71 that have died since the ground operation began. The IDF has announced that much of Hamas's underground fortresses in the north of Gaza have been destroyed having taken out more than 500 tunnel shafts since a war began. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying the war will not end until Hamas is destroyed and all hostages are returned and also promising to create a deep security buffer zone inside Gaza. Bring him into direct conflict with the United States which has ordered Israel not to displace any Gazans or reduce the total territory of the Gaza Strip. This is coming as the fight in the north is heating up again as well. A number of Israeli soldiers injured in the past few hours after Hezbollah fired an anti-tank guided missile at the northern community of Beit Hilal. New reports say a total of 11 people, eight soldiers, and three civilians were wounded in that attack. But we are going to open with our eye on the south where our correspondent P.S. Stegelbach is standing by just on the outskirts of the border community of steroids. Pia, walk us through the latest developments on the southern front in the fight against Hamas. Rod Ariel, well there was continuous rocket fire coming out of Gaza really throughout the morning first and foremost targeting the border communities located alongside the Gaza Strip but also reaching as far as the Ashkelon. We can expect that to continue. Yesterday evening was a massive barrage also onto the center of Israel, including Tel Aviv. Ariel, you're right to say that the Israeli military this morning called upon several areas of Hanyunists in the south called upon residents there to evacuate to leave to areas further down south as this is part of the plan that Yairi have instated after the ceasefire to separate the Gaza Strip into blocks and then call upon residents of specific blocks that will be targeted by the Israeli military to evacuate to a sparrow to avoid more civilian casualties there but the sentiment on the ground in Gaza is that people don't know where to go to that the south is extremely crowded and also safe institutions or safe places or such a places that are deemed safe such as UN schools are becoming more and more dense and it is very difficult for them to cope with the amount of people that are trying to flee but the Israeli army also publishing a new statement this morning saying that since the beginning of the ground operation they located 800 tunnel shafts they destroyed 500 of them the Israeli army statement also said that many of them were located in civilian areas such as around residential buildings and also mosques now the tunnel issue is one of the most complicated ones for the Israeli military as we know that they assume that there are more than 130 remaining hostages might be located right in these tunnels so this is one of the major challenges how to deal with those tunnels endangering the lives of those hostages now you mentioned Benjamin Netanyahu said that this war will continue until the war goals are fulfilled which are majorly to demolish Hamas and to also bring those hostages back now how that will be combined and how that can be realized this is what the remaining weeks or the following weeks or days will actually show now that the ceasefire is over and the Israeli military is clearly pushing further down south well thank you very much Pia for that report from the south giving us the latest developments on that front for more on this though we are going to be joined in studio by Colonel Amit Asha former member of the Israeli security agency better known as the Shin Bet internal security agency Amit it's good to have you in the studio with us one of the things that we don't really do a lot when we're analyzing this conflict is getting inside the mind of Hamas it was a conversation that I found fascinating we're happening just before the show started I want to go deeper into that with what we've seen the IDF accomplished so far in Gaza what do we know about what Hamas is thinking right now actually it's difficult for us as a western thinking and the open mind of of the world to think like the Hamas because they have ideology that is different of us and the ideology is radical Islam that put the Islam in front of everything and also in front of human life as we can see they can put human life in front of them to be a shield of them and this is not an unusual thing so if we are getting into their mind in this kind of second action of of the the army getting into action into the south of Gaza it's make some pressure on the on the Hamas members but they care nothing about civilians and more if the civilians will get hurt it's better for them because they can show it to the world and it's not hurting them really in their feelings I think that they had the time in the period of time that we have a break to get out and to see things at the outside and to see what happens but again it's not in the aspect of humanitarian it's not in the aspect of building of destroying apartments or houses of people it's more in the aspect of what can we do next in our operation in the war so they were analyzing what they can and what they can't and they analyze also the tunnel system where can they put them in and from where can they surprise us getting out because we had as you can see the IDF spokesman speak about 800 peers that we found already but it's maybe a lot of peers more and they can surprise the army from the back and from the side and we have to be attention with that and we saw that if we are getting into the the mind of them nothing is bothering them yet and in the aspect of course of humanitarian if it comes to the Palestinian humanitarian or Israeli humanitarian things they don't care really they are thinking about themselves and the idea of Islamic radical to get all Israel from from the river to the sea as they can say that said we've seen that as fanatical as they are not all of them is willing to commit to a fight they cannot win we've seen videos of them surrendering we know that a large number have been taken alive are there weaknesses in their jihadist mindset that can be exploited by security services by the Shin Bet to win in the fight I think within the fight when we are catching somebody alive it's better for us because we can interrogate him and they have a lot of information that we need especially for the hostages places because we have two major thing that we need information and intelligence information about it is where are they kept keeping the hostages and the other thing were the tunnels where the system and how it works and whereas the the head of the commander of the the Hamas so when you catch some person some member of Hamas you're interrogating very deeply on these two major intelligence point of view another question that's related to that one is how often do we find that they are willing to surrender versus how often do they fight to the death it's it's kind of interesting to to talk about it because when you are giving an assignment for a suicide bombers so he knows that he go to kill himself and this is the mind that you are putting in his mind this idea for a long time and you're giving him the opportunity to do it and he will be a Shahid and he will have a lot of benefits from that it's a brainwash but still when you see the lowest members of the Hamas when they are fight they care for their lives so they will be surrendered if they see that it's a dead end for them and we saw it also in the tunnel that they got out they didn't fight until the last bullet as we can say they saw that the situation is a dead end they raise their hand they want to be alive because they know also that in our jail it will not be the end of the world for them it's a good life it's not like jail in their position so they think also on good life and major of them it's the lowest soldiers in the Hamas and we see that they will surrender we're going to continue this discussion in just a moment but first I want to turn our attention to the northern border our correspondent Zach Anders is standing by in the north where we have seen a very rapid escalation today Zach walk us through what we've seen happen on the fight in the northern border against Hezbollah sure we've seen now the fifth strike of the day attributed to Hezbollah claims that they continue to fire upon Israeli positions several of these military bases here along the northern border we're also seeing the IDF say has been injured this afternoon several of those being soldiers potentially civilians as well we're waiting for official confirmation of these numbers earlier reports indicated that they were lightly injured the soldiers were lightly injured an ATGM strike this is a anti-tank guided missile these are personnel manned rockets from Hezbollah fighters as they target positions Israeli positions here on the northern border but it's not just coming from Hezbollah in Lebanon as well there was reportedly rocket fire from Syria as well what do we know about that incident right this fire from Syria as well is potentially tied to some of the strikes that we're seeing inside Syria retaliatory strikes that have taken place in the last several days trying to what the IDF says is a strategy of eliminating the points of origin of previous launches we are still waiting on the specifics of what exactly this projectile was if it could have been a drone or a rocket the IDF has yet to confirm specifically what kind of weapon was used coming out of Syria before it apparently was either intercepted or perhaps failed because there was no reports of damage however we still have yet to receive confirmation as to what exactly the course of action was to address this specific launch but it would be characteristic of what has been happening here again that IDF policy of targeting with using the intelligence apparatus that's located here in the north to identify where these launches come from both in Lebanon and in Syria and striking wherever these projectiles drones rockets what have you wherever they were launched and do you know if there's any word yet on who the group responsible for the launch from Syria might have been Hezbollah IRGC any of the other militias in the area and what the significance of each group would be if it was that one that fired it right so still waiting on the official IDF confirmation tying this to whichever specific group but you're right it is important to know who exactly is firing and from where Hezbollah of course has been taking credit for several of the strikes here today but in the last several days and especially before the ceasefire they were not taking credit for all of the strikes that we were counting and was being independently reported throughout the north here as there are several factions especially in southern Lebanon that continue to operate with impunity and an attempt to strike and then move or retreat deep into Lebanon so day in one place they aren't firing on Israeli targets and then staying put and waiting for that retaliatory strike well thank you very much Zach for that report from the northern border and we will be back with you a little later in the day now during all of this there have been some confusing to say the least statements coming from America's leaders on one hand a vow of iron clad support for Israel in the war something that's already been seen with carrier strike groups in the region and a warning to regional players on the other hand there's been a list of conditions that make ending the war extremely difficult after statements from US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken that Israel could have just weeks to finish the war while also demanding less use of the air power used to end the war quickly it's also has to be done without displacing civilians or by causing any collateral damage while not displacing any civilians from that war zone after those seemingly contradictory statements you have Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin repeated that despite this America's support is non-negotiable you see in this kind of a fight the center of gravity is the civilian population and if you drive them into the arms of the enemy you replace a tactical victory with a strategic defeat so I have repeatedly made clear to Israel's leaders that protecting Palestinian civilians in Gaza is both a moral responsibility and a strategic imperative the United States will remain Israel's closest friend in the world our support for Israel security is non-negotiable and it never will be and we're going to return that to Colonel Amit Asa I want to talk about the American involvement here because the statements are as I suggested a little bit contradictory on one hand don't cause collateral damage on the other hand don't you dare move civilians from the war zone on one hand you have a few weeks to finish this on the other hand well we have your back no matter what but also don't use the heavy bombing campaign needed to finish this quickly how is Israel supposed to fight a war when we're seeing these contradictory statements from Israel's main backer mainly what I think about it is that the United States give us a full card to do whatever we need to do but in another hand they can't stand on the side and not saying something about civilians that get being hurt so they say something it it's something that they have to say but they are not pressing Israel to do something against the security of the forces the security of the people the safety of soldiers at the field it's important because we know that if we want to get on the ground with the troops we need first to bomb it from the air and bombing from the air meaning casualties also sometimes people that doesn't belong to the Hamas members still Israel is doing the most that he can and the most that anybody is doing in the world to put civilians out of war zone and in the same time Hamas is putting the same civilians in front of them as a shield so we have to to move between the drops you know and to do whatever we can to save innocent people but with another hand we can't pay with our own soldiers because we didn't bomb enough before we got into a war zone I mean I want to say I want to hear it does sound like you're saying it's just words to mollify the American constituency but we did see even at the meetings between Blinken and Israel's leadership him telling them not telling the American people that there could just be weeks left what can realistically be accomplished in that time frame I think that again is the same and Israel is determined it determined not just the political people like Prime Minister and the Ministry of Defense and whoever is in the top is coming it's coming from the from the bottom it's coming from the the field it's coming from the people from the society society is not gonna stand and stop before the Hamas will will turn down so it's something that the politicals can't do nothing about it so any pressure that will have from United States even if it will be truth and even if it will be very hard people in Israel will not stand will not stop and this is the way I think this war will go on and as fast as we can we will do it but still we know how and we know uh is secure uh of our soldiers so we have to think about it I'm gonna bring in another angle here the international criminal court has finally weighed in on the Gaza war and unusually for that body on Israel's side ICC prosecutor Karim Khan visited Israel and toured Kibbutz Be'eri and Khvar Aza these two sites were the worst atrocities commit on october 7 including the most sadistic of crimes against humanity Khan called the attacks against innocent civilians quote representing some of the most serious international crimes that shock the conscience of humanity crimes the ICC was established to address he also added that these locations alongside the nova music festival were nearly 400 civilians were massacred were scenes of calculated cruelty Khan told the families of victims that the court will work to hold the perpetrators accountable for these actions I mean I'm going to turn back to you I'm not really sure how much good statements like this actually do in the conflict because Hamas is a terror organization they don't have rules organizations like the international criminal court saying well yeah they commit evil actions does it have any meaning yeah it doesn't have any meaning especially for the Hamas okay they will not have to pay any price for the crimes in a way of thinking of a law international law or something like that because they will not prosecute because they are nothing they are just a terror organization they are not a state Israel we can sue in the law of the international law but the Hamas and again it doesn't matter for them it doesn't matter for them any law any law of crime any any perspective of of legal or not legal they're thinking other way they're thinking unhumane humanitarian way that we can't think that like that and we saw the massacre we saw what they did we saw the the vicious the thing that they did and we can think about if somebody can speak about if they are they are under the law or above the law it doesn't matter for them as someone who has spent a career getting inside the enemy's hair ultimately are there any levers that can be used against them that aren't simply brute force what do we have in addition to that I think what works is when somebody is strike you and the Hamas also they thinks like that if you strike him unproportionately it makes him think about the other step a second time if we we hit if he hits us for one strike and we will hit him 10 times more next time he will think if he will do it again and this is the only way that we can deal with that kind of enemy we have to put in his mind that he has something to lose losing in the aspect of Islamic radical is losing land of course and as we can see if people are moving from the north side of Gaza Strip to the south for them is the end of the war because they are losing land this is the most important for them so if you know that this kind of a thing is hurting them you have to hurt them in that kind of a thing because this is the only way for them to say okay now we stop we will not behave like that in the future and let's hope that they can get the message and that it's sent very loud and clear this time thank you very much and after about two months after Hamas's infiltration and raid that brutally massacred Israelis and foreign nationals Israelis who were kidnapped during that assault and have now been freed as part of the hostage for ceasefire deal are speaking out about the horrors that they experienced and witnessed while in Hamas captivity our Erika Jackson has these stories for us nearly two months after Hamas's brutal attack in Israel on October 7th freed Israeli hostages are now telling firsthand accounts of what it was like being kidnapped and taken into the Gaza Strip among those sharing stories of being taken captive and held under life-threatening conditions are 85-year-old Jochebed Lipschitz and 84-year-old Dietza Hyman so those who have been freed also detailing the mental anguish of what it was like to be held against their will including 44-year-old Danielle Eloni who was kidnapped with her five-year-old daughter Amelia so so those who have been freed echoing the same message that time is running out so I'm not asking you to be sad, I'm not asking you to be sad or accept you from everything you can do. The children left, everyone left. We have to, not leave the thugs there. If we don't leave them now, they won't be successful in life. More details are likely to emerge about October 7th as more of those who were kidnapped are expected to share their stories as well. And we're going to end on some unconfirmed reports at this time, but there are some allegations that Israeli ground troops are now operating in the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. The footage that's been posted to social media seems to show Israeli tanks on the Salah Adin Road, that's Gaza's main north to south highway, and operating between Deir Al-Bala and Khan Yunus. Now this footage is coming as both Hamas and the Islamic Jihad terror groups claim to have clashed with IDF soldiers in the area of northeast Khan Yunus today. As the war is expanding deeper into the Gaza Strip, and Israel resumes operating beyond just the northern parts of the Strip in Gaza City. This is the expansion of the war that's been promised by the military over the course of the past week.