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It's given all y'all Wonderful people an opportunity to talk with me about your work and your creative process Well, we don't have the time for you to read aloud from your work or anything like that We do have lots of time for you to talk about Your work and get some tips Helpful hints suggestions and definitely a lot of encouragement about you and your creative process So what we do is first we thank the public theater and howl around And lolly and everyone at the public theater and howl around for helping us get this zoomed together We've been doing this show for about 13 14 years. So uh, yeah And uh, second, we tell you how it works. We work together for 20 minutes by this timer And then we take your questions All work and all questions are welcome and lolly will help you Figure out all the other cool stuff Yeah, if you would like to ask a question and you're here in the zoom with us You can do that by raising your hand You can use the reactions tab which is likely in the bottom of your screen to raise your hand If you have any trouble finding it, uh, feel free to message me in the chat and I can help you out If you are watching live on howl round with us Feel free to send us your questions via the public theaters Instagram or twitter accounts or watch me works twitter account, which is at watch me work SLP with the hashtag howl round that's hashtag H-o-w-l-r-o-u-n-d and that's how you'll ask your questions All righty We're gonna work for 20 minutes Okay, and Oh Now comes the fun The more fun part So, uh, if you have a question about your work and your creative process and Feel free to do it lolly. So raise your hand or just wave like this And lolly will unmute you. Awesome. Anthony. Uh, you can unmute Oh, okay. Thank you. Uh, what's up s lp? Um, can we tell them? Can we tell them how how we know each other? Yeah Recently made his Broadway debut in top dog gun dog. He is a fabulous actor and also a writer So I told him come Come to watch me work. So here he is. Hey bra. How you doing? Yeah, good. Good. Thank you for inviting me. This is this is really dope I had no clue about this um So thank you. Yeah, but I just had a question about Your screenwriting specifically I'm curious to know what the biggest because I've just recently gotten into screenwriting in the past couple years And I'm working on something right now um, and I'm just curious The biggest negotiation you've had to make From playwriting to screenwriting, right? I'm hearing a lot of um A lot of Words around, you know show don't tell around that principle of you know You can't have as much dialogue in a screenplay as you can in a stage play um, but I mean I as a writer I think I enjoy characters with a lot of dialogue So I'm having trouble trying to negotiate that plus I see Aaron Sorkin do a lot in in his work, you know what I mean So I'm curious how True that notion is If you've had to negotiate certain things moving from one medium to the other Well, that's great. That's great those things you said, I mean I I think the the biggest thing I keep in mind or I would suggest one keeps in mind when they're writing a screenplay Is you got to think big Big the screen. I mean even if it's going to be on, you know, your laptop, whatever, but Big, you know, so that for example in a in a play, um You know, it's just it's just you're not looking at this huge expanse Do you see that? Do you see what I mean? It's like it's like you're seeing the sky and then you can see a Seeing in a coffee shop and then you can see a scene in someone's bedroom And then you can see a scene on the street on the boardwalk and then you can see, you know, what I mean So so you can so that's what I mean by expansive Thought although there are plenty of great films that take place in in one room or two rooms or whatever. So So nothing's a rule. It's just um, whatever you want to do you want it to work Right. So the thing about dialogue, um, I I Would say keep that in mind You know, I would say I would say keep that in mind because a lot of times say you have a character who's Who's standing in a field and the sky is big behind them and they're talking maybe they only have to say Where were you? You know, because the the sky is going to speak for them and the the size of it all is going to because there's a lot of dialogue going on or being conveyed in What the eye is taking in Yeah You should be in in a play and we just think about top dog. The eye is taking in a pretty One one set right and two people moving around or sometimes just one person moving around But in a film the eye is taking in a lot more stuff It's being bombarded with a lot more information So maybe that's a good reason why we don't need so many words in a screenplay got you, you know Yeah, so just be keep keep your ear on that, you know when a character is going on and on and on you might go Okay, let me trim it down So that you're writing your first or second or third screenplay you're at least being mindful of the rules or the conventions Right when you write your first play or your second play your tenth play you would you you just want to be sort of like I know the convention You know, if you choose to depart from it, that's That's okay too I was also what you want to do is even in a play, but especially keep it moving Keep it moving You know what I mean don't sit on anything for too long That's what I would suggest. Yeah. Yeah, okay keep it moving. Um Some some I've heard some some suggestions like get in as late as you can and get out as quick as you can You know what I mean? So start the scene as late as you can and get out of there as quick as you can keep it What's the scene about boom? It's the same thing though in a in a well in a well written play like top dog underdog, you know, wait Yeah, what's the scene what what's it about? What are they doing? What do they want home home here? They are now they're gone. You know, we don't we don't linger wallow or you know unnecessarily unless that's part of The real integral part of the storytelling Mm-hmm, you know also in a film you can use voiceover. Whoo You can you know, um, so there are all these cool things you can do in film that you that you can't do with a play Um, also read lots of play uh screenplays That's super helpful, right? Yeah, for sure And watch lots of movies, you know Yeah, that's the phase that I'm sort of in right now is just like taking in a lot of film Just to watch the structure of it. Yeah, watch the structure of it. It's that's fun. That's enjoyable. You know, that's a real enjoyable thing Yeah And it's relatively inexpensive now that we all have you know these laptops and whatnot, you know, right, right, right Is that is that hope what oh, yeah, no that that's that's extremely helpful That was my that was just like my burning question that I have for you was just the negotiations that you found that you had to make Moving from one to the other Um Yeah, because I I mean, I think my own eye is more tailored to you know, I study theater So it's more tailored to theater and plays Um And texts but I'm learning that it's it's just a different medium in film. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's still but still still still story is really important You know, no amount of flash, you know, you see all these flashy film You know, it's like who cares or you go to a play and you see people So whatever swinging through the air and you're like, who cares? What's the story? So the story is really important um You know, however you decide to tell that story that's still very important No matter if you're working in film or or tv or theater For sure. Yeah, so thank you. Hey, you're welcome and come back. We're here. We're most monday Okay, dope dope dope. Thanks, bro. Thank you MC Hey, MC. Are you really on a beach or not? Are you no? I'm visiting some family in new jersey and it's freaking cold. So I was I was transporting myself somewhere warm. Very nice. Yes. Um so I've been thinking a lot about point of view And a novel not a play right now, but I'm About telling this story and part of it is set in in New York in the 1940s and then there's a segment that's in the 1980s and I have been I've started just grappling with I I told it from the guy Leo's Close third I was doing that a lot. Uh-huh. And I thought oh, maybe I should Maybe the modern The 1980s him I could do in like I first person Okay Distinguish the time periods, but I don't know I I can't tell if it's uh I don't know. I'm just not sure. I'm in that sort of like Just got to keep at its stage, but I'm gonna get a notch like what's your what's your take on point of views? Sure. Sure. Um I'm trying to hear What you're saying So do you think so quite a couple questions? Do you feel that you need to Change the point of view from the in the time period so that the the reader will know that it's a different Do you think that's the only way they can distinguish? No, I I just you know, I didn't know It's this guy's story He's He's an immigrant. I mean, you know, but he um And he had to flee some pretty terrible things in his hometown and he had to do some really cruel things to be able to stay in And I didn't know whether I should try to I don't know. I didn't know what was more authentic. Am I using the word right if I say that authentic? I don't know Like I don't I mean, oh, that's your your dear. Um Just about the word authentic. Yes how about How about we say that it is authentic to use that word in whatever way you want Oh Because if you're conveying some meaning, you know, right? So you're good on the use of that word Number one number two How can we um Help you choose which groove to run your River in Yeah You know and this I'm leaning to you. I'm hearing you talk about him. Um, so here's a question another question Uh, in your writing. Have you written more plays or novels or short stories? Um, I would say novels Okay, okay. Okay. I did a couple play unfinished. I mean it just I don't I don't think It's all good. It's all good. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to help you find the the groove um What uh, did you come up with against some obstacles with the third person? I was afraid I was describing too much and too much exposition, you know, so what you said really um Earlier really resonated with me the you know Start the scene late getting get out because you know, I tend to linger And yeah, but but but mc. That's for a film. You know That's for a film. So I mean while it's it's good advice is good advice, but but in the context of a novel um Think of charles dickens, you know You know, he he he lingers You know, and and he does a lot of writing the third person I would um My my feeling is do it in the third person Because then because this person has done some horrible things And it'll allow you to have a little bit of you can sit beside him as if you were sitting beside him on the bus Or watching him walk down the street you don't have to walk in his shoes You know what I mean, you don't have to write and you do not have to You know, you can just be he can just be your next door neighbor You know, right? He can you can be you look there. He is walking in the park. You just describe him The lingerie all that that that you can trim down and editing later Okay, all right. Okay. So try try try third person I will thanks And you said third person close. What does that mean? I don't understand that term Sometimes that I've been reading those craft books So sometimes, you know, instead of the omniscient you go really close like, uh Leo counted the spaces were there to so you're you're right beside him sort of like Okay, okay. Good. That sounds that That sounds really gorgeous Leo Encouraging by those words Those sounds gorgeous. Do you have a game plan that's going to get you to the first draft the end of the first draft um I thought I did but I I think I need to Tweak it a lot I don't have a great game plan. I thought I had one ending and then I wanted to um Then I'm not sure so But but you have sort of a like today you're going to do x amount by the end of the week you will have done y amount I like oh like word word sort of oh Yeah, yeah, I want I want the sketch Schedule Yeah, I want the shitty final draft first draft done in um In Two months Good Yeah, because I've been working on it a long time Very good. Very good. Okay. Good Good and remember it has to be a shitty draft If you make it like really good, you're not doing your job. Yeah Just you know get to get to the finish line. Okay In the third person close. I love that Leo counted the spaces Yes All right. Thank you. Yeah. Great question. Thanks Thanks, MC. Uh, Kimmy you are next Hey Kimmy Hi, thank you Look at the shadow. Is that a shadow? No, those are glasses over your eyes. Uh-huh Yeah, I I'm sitting in the sun getting some vitamin D Eyes eyes taking taking full advantage of my location Um you and anybody who's cold is welcome to come stay with me. We have a we have a spare room So if you get six 20 degrees Um, so thank you so much, uh, everybody's questions I I I feed off of all of that as well and it struck me to to talk about The last time we talked I was struggling with The fact that I'm changing the the character from being an alcoholic and a drug addict to just, you know Finding her way Through sexual childhood abuse without any Trope I guess um Because it really I know it's loosely based on my life, but it is that's something I I have not experienced So I don't feel that it's authentically mine to say um So I was trying to struggle figure out. Okay. Well, how did I survive? How did I get through all of this? How did I? and I was talking to a friend of mine who's an actor and out of Out of no place. I just said I just went into my jersey I was like so you sat for two hours and there's no arc. There's no nothing She don't know how she got from A to B why because life don't have answers all the time You don't know you just put one foot in front of the other. Why because I'm a woman That's all I know how to do but but but but but but but and he said there's your ending because He says I was immediately captivated and he said and sometimes we just don't have answers sometimes And I was wondering what you thought of that as an ending All endings are great. Everything. Yes Yeah, you know kimmy Whatever is going to get you there Is a great Way place to be you know what I'm saying? Yes Yes, yes there for for you know Every pod has a lid, you know just Drive toward that ending and park it there You know God I love you so much You know, we have to Continue to be you know Brave enough to just try something You know Yeah You know, thank you so much. I appreciate that Do you have a game plan As to how much you're going to write every day and when you're going to reach your ending You know, you just ask them see that and I thought to myself That's a really good question because I hadn't until you asked her that and I thought to myself You know, I really can put this to to good use and I I can have it. Don't even think about barking My dogs she's sitting right here I don't have a game plan but as soon as you said that I thought to myself, you know By the end of January, I should have this rewritten again with the revolving door and a new ending Great There you go And so by the end of January means, you know, and you'll look at your calendar or whatever and it means a certain number of Pages a week or whatever. You know what I mean? Yes Yeah, and just because really what else are you doing? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's kind of the best thing to do. So yeah, I do appreciate that so very much. I mean everything that you say It just you're you're like this surgeon and you go right into the heart and to the meat of everything and I've never met anybody like you. I just and I've met a lot of people but I just find you so I don't know what it is about you, but you speak to my heart. You speak to everybody else's heart And we're just better writers because of you and I really thank you so very much Thank you. Oh, thank you, Kimberly. That's so kind and loving. I really appreciate that But that's why we're here, right? Yeah, it truly is This is why we're here. I'm so I really appreciate the the public theater and howl round for Coming on board so be I mean for supporting the show way back in 2008 when we started but then coming on board During COVID and helping us with the zoom and the whatnot because it really makes it easier for people to to join to join in and and I really feel like it's an integral part of the public theater's mission to provide You know a community some community engagement, you know what I mean with all kinds of folks Yeah, I mean, I'm a better writer because of Being here and listening to everybody listening to the questions and listening to the answers You know and to the struggles because sometimes I think I'm by myself in those struggles And then I hear somebody else, you know, we're we're I hear a struggle somebody had and I didn't go Oh, shit. I didn't even think of that You know, so it's just it it has changed me profoundly as a writer and as a person So I really I thank you so very much and everybody Is and it's and it's fun All right So, uh, yeah, especially and hold on to those those feelings, you know During the holiday season because the holiday season can be kind of you're fun and festive and it can also be kind of a drag So, you know, it's never been fun for me. I hate this time of year There you go. So, you know Keep the good feelings Close and and it's so great that also howl round of the public that we they uh, what do you call them lolly stockpile these what do you call it archive Yeah, we have an archive Archive them. So if you feel like, you know next week because it's going to be a week off, you know Just click on one that we already did and just sit there and like have it like running in your life because the idea is to fill your head And your life but your head as much as you can with positive stuff Yeah, because you we're all so influenced by what comes out of our mouth And and you know negative stuff going around so if you can fill your keep your head filled with positive stuff It's it really helps especially during these these holidays Yeah, I cut off social media during this I get off facebook and everything this time of year and My birthday's the day after new year. So everybody's drunk or dead or hung over so It's always been a drag So this is uh, this is such great advice because when I'm steeped in a creative project I don't think about other stuff like that So it's really good advice to to go to the archive. I never think about that. Thank you cool cool Anybody else have a question? And then we'll do mary afterwards Hey, Larry. Okay. Hey, how you doing? Good to see you. That's all me. Yeah All right. Well, no one was talking. So I thought I have something I'm curious about. I don't know if it's a Question it might be a little bit of a can of worms But I was wondering if you any experience Uh, I haven't done this myself, but I have a writer friend who I meet with every day And he kind of went down the rabbit hole of using open ai as a writing tool And I'd wondered if you'd experience this because he's been sending me samples And it's eerie remarkable scary How strangely eloquent like the the computer learned his style he fed in a bunch of Pages of his writing and asked it to write a scenario in his own style And it certainly didn't do it perfectly But it wasn't bad And I just I just wondered if you'd had any encounters with this technology and And if you had any thoughts about Is it is it fair to use this kind of technology as a tool? He had to kind of figure out You know where he was starting to feel like it was a A little bit of a drug You know and where he was losing himself and where it was actually Uh, a sounding board kind of tool So he's sort of uh shared with me his process of learning to engage with it Constructively, so I just wondered if you had any thoughts about it. Oh, oh, that's a really good question. Oh boy. Um I think and I would say it depends what you want A lot of people want to have written Yes You know, right Yes We all want to you know, because because sometimes, you know, the the creative The creative act is is it's difficult, you know, so we all want to have written um So there's that so if if one not you Larry, but if somebody is a person who wants to have written Then this is a great tool You Style hurrah, you know what I mean? Um, that's what one wants If you want to write Then Then that involves a certain amount of Work and discovery, you know And so I would say that's a little it gets a little tricky there, you know I would all say that what one one style that's very interesting because for example my style 20 years ago is not my style now So if I were to feed in my style, what does that even mean? You know me as a person 20 years ago We we we what did it? What did they say the scientists, you know, we replenish ourselves, you know Renew ourselves every seven years So What does that even mean that means a great that means mcdonalds If you want to feed in mcdonalds It's food, you know what i'm saying um If you want to you know get a little like I don't know If you want to have the same Kind of relations with your spouse every night or whatever You know what I mean just push the button and there you go Um, you want to make Writing or creative or cookie cutter because you figured out the formula that works and all your work is going to be like that Great I mean that's so that's I don't think that's a crime You know, yeah I Yeah, I mean again, you know, it's like it's like okay. I want to go to you know I want to go uptown You know, whatever to Lincoln Center. Am I going to ride the subway or am I going to walk? Well, I want to be that I want to ride. Yeah, I want to get this one So there's there's ways that we can all say well, you're not really doing it for real But it depends what you want And that's a question you ask to yourself in your heart and be like You know, what do what do I want? Yeah Yeah, I could I couldn't do it myself because I thought I would be up at night thinking was it my idea And it would actually start to block me because I But for him it's sort of uh, I don't know for him He sort of found this this groove with it where it it challenges him back and then he responds. It's sort of like a A partner. So I was just uh, yeah, it's just interesting Especially to see the examples there They're sort of remarkable So, uh, thank you. I was just very really interested in your thoughts that Your answer makes perfect sense. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's so funny. I guess I wouldn't want to see I mean, to be honest, I'm gonna say something kind of weird I see a lot of people writing in the store in the in the style of susan lorry parks People do it I'm like, thank you, you know So, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm I'm but I probably would if I could No, but I Computer and go I'm doing and have to figure it out. You know what I mean? Like who am I today? Yeah, this writing this kind of play. Oh my god. What does that even mean? What does that mean? I'm growing Oh my gosh. What does that mean to the world? You know, I I enjoy those kind of challenges Yeah, that's interesting. I have a friend of mine who who talks a lot about getting current with yourself Which reminds me of what you just said and I I think that's That's really profound. So that is exactly it lair You want it? You want to get current with yourself? You want to? Yeah, you want and and if you want to get, you know, god's the about it, you know The spirit is a spirit of freshness You know, the You know, mana is a thing that comes every day on the ground. You can't just store it up and be like, yeah I'm going to just you know, it's a it's a the spirit is a spirit of freshness So you wake up in the morning you say spirit. What you got for me? and that's a then you're in the field of great possibility Love it Yeah, so But what a great question. Oh my gosh. Now we all got to go and try or get it over the holiday Thank you We have mary up next and then lin will put you on deck if we have time. Um after mary Thank you Hi Hello Hello So I wanted to Talk about getting to the shitty first draft Because I have a hard I have a hard time with that. I'll tell you specifically why So the first so I've been working on a play That was born Meaning like the the central idea the first scene the The contour some characters jump The ending wasn't Took me a long ass time to figure that out what I finally did and now I'm just like Talking to people and rewriting it and I feel very comfortable in this space the editing the Well, what does she want? What does he want? What is happening here that process? and other Other sort of bursts of writing that kind of come out where I feel like I have a handle or or I can kind of really channel the character's voice I feel comfortable with that And I think it's because my um I started out as an actor. I started out in my body and as an interpreter I I don't want to say this out loud, but That, you know, there's a little quiet voice that that says, you know, like, okay I'm not a writer, but I'm writing So I don't want to go there But there is something about the language part of it that it's just it's not It doesn't come Easy it's work and I'm down for it That said So I have another two ideas for these plays And these aren't these aren't like born they they've become sort of I have I have the stories The contours I have the characters and one is a farce. I love farces. I don't know how the fuck to write a farce It's hard. And then the other one is Is like a fake documentary theater so And the people are they're very different from me like I need to go hang around some people like the people in these plays Get you know get a feel of the language That would be fun Okay beyond that When I sit down to even just be like, okay, I'm just going to write whatever and not judge it it's um I feel like I'm in like I'm a first grader Just like learning how to write it's that sort of Painstaking even if I don't have a judging voice even if I really said you're not here right now so Yeah, it's it's so I'm just wondering like how can I like Get it so I can just write a shitty draft in two or three months Um, that's a great question Larry's got Larry's got an AI program I mean that that's an idea if you I mean, I'm sure you can go online and get one of them, you know, that'd be cool. Um, okay, and and okay Number one Mary be great. I love your question be mindful of everything that comes out of your mouth So folks when we go, I don't want to say this. I shouldn't say it, but I'm like break break stop Okay, but Some bullshit about myself that I'm you know what I mean, I mean, Mary if I said that to you What would you feel like damn bitch? Why are you talking to me like that right or or some version of that? Wouldn't you I mean right you'd be like, why is she saying that about me? So I'm like, why are you saying that about yourself? because who you're the you're most influenced by one person's opinion your own Everybody the person who has the most influence over your where your head's at is your head So if some stuff comes out of your head and your mouth is closest to your ear like it's just gonna crawl Right, okay, so so change the way you talk about yourself Right, okay, and that sounds all new agey and it is fine. It also works The other thing is use a timer How many pages are you after just let's do the farce? The one that you don't know how to write that's funny. Whatever farce is I'm not really sure I didn't go to grad school But you know what one is you love farce's you love them How many pages is it gonna be? I don't know 110 110 pages great. Okay. What page are you on now? Uh Zero I have a ton of notes Great. Okay. So you start writing like how many pages do you think you can write a day? If you spent 30 minutes a day writing are you a fast typer? I'm a very fast typer um, I must I'm uh, a more methodical thinker Good. So type faster than you think Okay Done thinking stop thinking mary stop. It's not helping Okay, so I'll see you have an outline. Do you have an outline of your play? I'm sorry. I'm looking at the clock. We've got two minutes. I want to help you because then it's gonna be the new year Do you have an outline of your play? Do you have a game plan? You have a roadmap? I I have I have major contours. Yes, I have characters Great, okay, so you know the signpost you know general direction. Yeah, okay. See if you can write You know for 30 minutes a day see if you can get two pages done a day I was thinking two pages two pages a day set your timer for set your timer not your phone get a timer You know, there's just a timer set it for like 30 minutes a day Pick your favorite time of day one time when your kids or your spouse or whatever your roommates or your neighbors aren't bothering you Whatever time of day that is sit down for 30 minutes and type out your two pages And the rule is they have to be shitty Okay, well, they have to somehow adhere to the signpost guidepost general contours that you've already laid out and two they can't be good So if you write two pages and they're not good and they adhere to the general contours that you've already Lined up. Yay. You win. You get to go on to the next day and do it again And just keep doing it and I can write at any signpost like I I would suggest writing in order Mary stop thinking stop stop Really, I'm serious. This is up for me to you It's not going to help you You need to surrender yourself to the power of the spirit who is a better writer than you All right, and you need to fall into the arms of the great river and say here I am I'm just going to trust that you're going to get me there if I put my boat in the water That's a big part of writing And that's why we do it because we love that feeling And allow yourself to have that beautiful feeling that comes when you say I am surrendering myself to the great order of the universe You've seen the pictures on that new telescope. They got Dang, right? Don't you want some of that to help you with your work? Oh my goodness. It's out there for you It's saying hello. I'm here or hello. Yeah, whatever it sounds like right right Okay, it's out there. It's available to you all that energy and power Is available to you it says come on just lean into me lean forward lean back. Let let me let me carry you a little bit right All of us it's there And not even because it's christmas almost or hanukah happy hanukah people Happy mary kwanza mary happy kwanza hana hana christmas You know i'm in all the holidays. We love all the holidays. We love all the spirits. We love all the gods and goddesses and entities right Okay, but now's the time give yourself a gift Right The world is a you know can be there's a lot of really great energy in the world Give yourself a gift to connect to that energy and it starts with you with you with the way you talk about yourself The way you think about yourself You owe it to yourself get and the world needs your positive energy It really does and if you don't believe that then believe something else But right doesn't it doesn't the world need the love that you give Doesn't it so the best way to give love is you start here by giving love here and it helps you give love to other people All right. Thank you slp. Okay Two pages a day mary and everybody Two shitty pages everybody else Everybody else get a gameplay doesn't have to be two pages. It can be five. It can be one It doesn't have to be 30 minutes. It can be 15 minutes. It can be an hour whatever you're comfortable with Just give yourself a holiday gift Of like i'm gonna do i'm gonna do some of my work And it's It's gonna help you feel so good and then you're gonna be able to share that good feeling with people in your life or total strangers All right, we love you when are we back lolly we are back in january Yes, we are back on january 9th So we're taking a short break for the holidays and then we'll be back and the sign-up sheet's already on the website So register for january 9th and we'll see you then Thank you lolly and seriously if you feel like you want to have some Some watch me work go into the the the lockdown. What's it called? The archive? The archive and there we are talking just like this and it's it'll help you feel that comfort and joy You can also turn if you have a tv turn on the fake fire You know the fake fireplace. It's really nice. Just say it So we love you guys Happy hana kwanza We love you. We'll see you in 2023 Okay Thank you