 So, John, why doesn't research turn into policy? Well, it does is the answer. And of course, the reason that the community is so concerned about the environment is that scientists have been effective in informing them about the risks of climate change. Of course, they could do better. Of course, they could interpret their material in much more accessible ways. But many are trying to do that. And I'm really impressed by the quality of the commitment of many scientists in being advocates for policies that will change the amount of greenhouse gas emissions. I think there's a very high level of social responsibility amongst scientists on the whole. Most of the time, I think it does translate into policy. But of course, the journey of how it gets translated into policy is a variable story. It's not always easy. And it also depends on what kind of research. And some research are more easy than the rest to be translated. But I think for those that, of course, there are also research that doesn't translate. And I think most, in those cases, it's probably due to the fact that it's difficult to be understood. It's a matter of communication. It's a matter of translating the research to local people, to normal people, or to policymakers. Yes, yes, most definitely I think research informs policy. I think down from the grassroots level of the education of people receiving on climate change and then putting it into their research, up to them informing the policymakers on what's going to happen and what outlooks they're looking at. It's informing on their decisions that they're making and what they're building today. Like it or not, but there is no such thing as independent research. And I think the research that is coming close to reality, close to policy, actual policy, is more difficult to bring across than research which is more on the greater climate change issue. It's easy to bring to the table the evidence of a changing climate. It's much more difficult to bring to the table evidence of flawed policies, even in those countries that are promoting high-profile climate policies. I think it's the lack of communication between science and policy and also this integration of within their historical development and also some people who choose to do scientists are not aware or choose not to be aware of how policy are going on in their surroundings. In Nigeria we have a lot of research work. I work in the research institutes. But not much of it turns into policy. They just don't take it to read. They don't take it up at all. We try to address the issue. We try to compress a lot of our work into single pages so that the issues always, they don't have the time to read. So we've tried compressing and we're just waiting to see if that will help. That was a recent move and we're hoping it will help. But for Nigeria it's just about politics. Maybe we need persons in between as a research community and the public also. People who maybe don't have the weight of always having the scientific proof in the back of their heads all the time. So communicating the results can be sometimes fun. It can be inspiring. Maybe the science community could use different methods, new methods. Maybe the social media for communicating the results. We have to find new, better ways to communicate. We do a lot of research. We try very hard to make them transform into policy. How does it work? Because you need to present it in the language that policymakers understand. Most researchers sit on high houses, stand on pedestals and don't bother to demystify their research and make it intelligible not only to policymakers but to ordinary citizens. So you blame the researchers? Very much so. It's language that counts finally. Communication is all.