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Hey That's 29 year-old Joseph Pierce and 41 year-old James with him being arrested for the murder of 28 year-old Ashley Dale 23 days after the incident had taken place on the old swan estate in Liverpool United Kingdom The investigation initially seemed as if it would be a difficult one It was clear that detectives from the Massey side police were going to have to act quick to solve this case If they didn't then maybe just maybe this would end up as Liverpool's latest unsolved murder case Why then did an innocent council worker who lived a comfortable life away from crime get her door kicked in and Have a hitman run through her home shooting indiscriminately towards her while she was watching TV with her dog Let's take it that would make sense that why would they somebody do okay dive into this case then and see how two best friends Turn rivals caused the death of an innocent woman to begin. We've got to head over to the Glastonbury festival. I Heard about house care doc. So two best friends turn rivals. Don't tell me they kicked down the wrong door Glastonbury a five-day festival celebrating contemporary performing art held every June in Somerset, England Celebrity endorsement and its political stance have helped to push its popularity So much in fact that some of the most famous artists beyond the world have touched down to perform there roughly 200,000 people visit every year and in 2022 28 year-old council worker Ashley Dale attended as she had done many times in the past That year she headed down to the festival with her boyfriend Lee Harrison Saz a known Massey side organized crime gang member and drug dealer the pair were also with two friends But only one is relevant to the story Jordan Thompson dusty also an organized crime gang member and drug dealer What call this group group a I'm not gonna say anything too much, but you know Girls always want to be with gangsters man, but this is what kind of being dating a gangster like This is the lifestyle that you could possibly wrap yourself in you're a college graduate You've got GSEs. You've got degrees Go find a doctor Bro got on a hat with a design under the brim. He can't be good for you There's nothing he could with a hat like that. Oh, there's nothing positive. He can offer you I'm just being real Also in attendance is organized crime gang member Sean Zeiss Zest and his girlfriend Olivia McDowell live although the pair headed down to Glastonbury by themselves They were both associated with group a and throughout their time at the festival. They crossed paths with them We'll call this pair group B Ian Fitzgibbon fits Olivia's cousin and his girlfriend were also in attendance just like group B They made their own way down to Glastonbury throughout their time at the festival They crossed paths with group a and B Then there's group D. This group consists of high-ranking organized crime gang member drug trafficker and arms dealer Nile Barry Branch James with them and a few others that are irrelevant to the story Now you're new everyone from the other groups and was even close with them other than Lee Harrison and Jordan Thompson. However, that wasn't always the case at least for Lee anyway back in 2018 Lee and Nile were considered to be best friends by people who knew them They sold large quantities of drugs together But that was all due to change at some point during there's always gonna be a power struggle It's the story doesn't go to bros who trapped together stay together. No, there's always a power struggle Somebody wants to plug somebody wants some more money. Somebody wants to move in on a custom It never works out greatly In 2018 Nile had a quantity of cocaine and cannabis worth somewhere in the region of 40,000 pounds stolen from him from a stash house that was under his control the hillside is an Organized crime group from the hillside and Longview estates in heightened Liverpool were said to have been behind the robbery It isn't clear how this robbery went down But what we do know is that Lee was heavily associated with the hillside is and after the robbery He sided with them cutting off his friendship with Nile one theory suggests I had to Lee sided with the hillsiders because Nile had been robbing him. I told Lee he was getting bumped by Nile Yeah, Ian told Lee that Nile had been robbing him by taking a bigger cut of the profit That was made from their drug dealing together And so it looked then as if a revenge attack was on the horizon after all Nile Barry was a big player in Masysides criminal underworld However, nothing happened for the next couple of years after the robbery It's believed that Nile left Liverpool and headed to north Wales to run a county line and to trade an illegal military-grade firearms Nile would return to Liverpool though at some point in the future and had even bumped into Lee on various occasions But nothing was ever said Glastonbury 2022 As you know four separate groups from Liverpool were in attendance that were known to each other Although they were separated for a lot of the time while at the festival two separate incident to see a poncho be breaking it down So systematically and then reminding us the four groups So we don't forget curd which would intensify for a lot of the time while at the festival two separate incident to Curd which would intensify the feud between Nile and Lee when these groups crossed paths at Glastonbury At some point during the first day of the festival Shawn Syce and his girlfriend Olivia McDowell bumped into Group A Ashley Dale Lee Harrison Jordan Thompson and others Initially the meeting was good vibes But an argument broke out after Shawn friends with both Lee and Nile Stated that he felt Lee had done Nile wrong in reference to the 2018 robbery To cut a long story short Shawn was punched in the head by Jordan Thompson and then he ran off leaving Olivia with Group A the following day Broke up with him and started a fling with Jordan Thompson at Glastonbury when Nile got work No, no no no no no no no go back say what Lee and Nile Stated that he felt Lee had done Nile wrong in reference to the 2018 robbery. This is Lee and now on the screen Okay To cut a long story short Shawn was punched in the head by Jordan Thompson and then he ran off leaving Olivia with Group A the following Leaving Olivia with Group A Day she broke up with him and started a fling with Jordan Thompson at Glastonbury When Nile got word that Shawn had been assaulted he used the incident to reignite the issue with Lee Remember up until this point the two hadn't clashed in any way We don't exactly know why that was but maybe it was because they shared so many mutual friends with each other and that kept the Peace one of those people being Shawn, but now Shawn had been assaulted for calling Lee No, no, that's crazy That actually playing out how it just played out Imagine you out with your girl and a random dude not a random dude One of your options somebody you have a problem with goes up and punches you in the head You run off now you did leave your girl You ran off on your girl because you were scared and she went with the dude that punched you in the head I Always say that stuff. That's not how it works out in real life, but I guess I mean You get beat up you might get your girl to it. That's crazy He out about the robbery Nile didn't care anymore He was on the hunt for Lee and he was armed Take a listen to what Nile had to say to Ian when he bumped into him at Glastonbury At the dance stage Nile came up to me. This was the first and last time I saw him at Glastonbury He said hello to me my girlfriend and some others that I was with he asked if I'd seen Shawn I told him I saw him at Fatboy Slim earlier on but hadn't seen him since he then asked me if I'd seen Lee I said no he then grabbed a knife from his pocket and said when you see him Tell him I'm going to stab him up. He wasn't aggressive towards me But rather just showing me that he was armed following these two incidents no more violence between the people I don't even get in there with a knife. Don't they got secured? Interest occurred Shawn did spot Olivia with group A after he was assaulted though But didn't say a word Nile never crossed paths with Lee and although Ian told Lee that Nile was armed and was looking for him He didn't really seem that bothered rather wanted to enjoy himself at Glastonbury On day four Nile and James with them were making their way towards Glastonbury after staying at a nearby hotel For reasons currently unknown. They were stopped by police 1025 a.m This is he'll tell us he said it before Nile James has got seven pounds in cash Hello, Mr. Nile Always forget to turn my air block on I really need to stop forgetting Nile Time is 25 to make you're gonna be arrested under suspicion of possession of that. Okay, is it? It's in your bag with your passport in it, okay They don't say anything that may harm the fence if you don't mention any questions thinking later on the court anything You do say maybe given an evidence, right? It's got your passport Just one bag just keep it P. My boy is too late because if it ain't yours, then who's is it you snitching There's there's two bags I He did say that okay Still snitching low-key like you're under it's only two of y'all so if it ain't yours, who's is it for now? Okay? It's your bag is it So again the big blue There's cats being in there is that Who's going to a festival off catamene you barely walk off catamene like Oh, and then you just told on yourself be shut up be quiet Be quiet, they didn't even see that So the most popular drug in the UK catamene Y'all y'all a while I'm not here. Yeah, if y'all think I'm talking to myself. I'm talking to the chat like they tell that's One that's yours, okay I'm going to arrest you This okay Off the catamene right now look Okay So do not say anything about me Almost passed out right there Rock with the scouncers though, so I mean if y'all watching this we still cool Where's the catamene I've searched the bag and I can't find any catamene. What was it in? He's in the deepest k-hole getting rid of his rights snitching on himself The guy who's passport it was in it is denying it's his bag say it's his mate's bag Yeah, I think as soon as She fed a Nile the other bloke He sort of said Yeah, that's my bag I swear every time there's a crime situation in the UK like the videos be so deep and in-depth and all the information be so public like And so Glastonbury ended everyone went home and continued on with their lives There was one person who couldn't do that though The threats made at Glastonbury were a constant reminder of the danger that they faced even if it wasn't directly aimed at them Yeah, yeah, no, we not that's not snitching. He ain't snitch The anxiety that stemmed from the threat consumed Ashley Dale's life from the minute she found out that Nile was Actively out to get Lee to make matters worse Nile had called Lee at some point after Glastonbury to tell him that he would be paying him a visit at his home address And if you didn't guess it by now Ashley lived there, too It's just giving me bad anxiety. Okay, but okay, go back go back a little bit Out to get me to make matters worse Nile had called Lee at some point after Glastonbury to tell him that he would be paying him a visit at his home address And if you didn't so gentlemanly like she came gave him a warning So Nile called Lee and told him that he was gonna pull up on him and they They both lived together him and Ashley did did Lee tell Ashley that there is potential danger Hovering around the crib is my question I didn't guess it by now Ashley lived there, too It's just giving me bad anxiety. I just feel like I'm constantly worrying and something's gonna happen He's fucking being threatened by branch and all shit like that. Is he gonna end up doing something to leave? I just couldn't cope with that branch is saying he's gonna come and do something He was saying he was gonna come down and he never came down. I just think if he's gonna do something Would he not give him any warning? I? Cba with it. I don't want to have to go to Lee's funeral next and I just have a bad bad Feeling about everything more proper stressed out all the time Me nerves are gone when I'm out in the car with Lee just feeling like I'm looking over me shoulder all the time Why ain't you leave that man? You knew it then When you got especially women when women got that type intuition like that you follow it That's a gift y'all have that leave So I'm so sorry to report that over the course of the weekend at around half past midnight on the early hours of Sunday Morning, please recall to Lester Road Reports for shooting at that location. We found that the property had been forcefully entered multiple shots had been fired and A young lady who we now know to be Ashley Dale Had been shot and fatally wounded and unfortunately despite the best efforts of Merseye police and North West Andaline service She succumbed to those injuries. We are supporting her family at this incredibly difficult time Ashley was a lovely young woman with a career in front of her work for Nozly Council And had recently graduated and had a promotion at work She was in her own home and should have been safe at that time The people responsible for this attack are subject to our investigation and we need to do everything we can to identify here So okay, so Lee did warn her or Ashley was in the know like I Know who I'm dating. I know what we're up against. I know his ops are talking about slide But she also knew The so she knew the dangers of being around being present RIP no for real RIP to Ashley, but like you got to get up out of there. You're in a bad situation If I know one thing about some scouts is they're they're good people. They're good kind heart people, but they don't they They in them streets. They pull it up. They have no place in our society or our communities They had no regard for Ashley or the law or the community and I appeal to anyone with any information whatsoever or Evidence around this to come forward with contact just directly crime stoppers or through our major incident portal on the website 11 40 p.m. August 20th 2022 a grey Hyundai is captured on CCTV heading towards Ashley Dale's home On Leinster Road in the old Swan neighborhood Liverpool when the car arrives two men get out and begin to slash at the tires of a white Volkswagen T-Roc belong into Ashley the men then stick around for a few moments They were trying to lure people out of the property However, no one would go outside Ashley who was at home with her dog assumed that the rain had set the And so she didn't leave around 50 minutes later the men return this time instead of attacking the vehicle one of them armed with a Military-grade scorpion machine pistol walks up to Ashley's front door kicks his way through and runs into the living room It takes Ashley a moment to realize what's going on But when she does she screams and makes a run for the back garden via the kitchen However, the gunman isn't too far behind Before she makes it to the back door the gunman fires eight rounds towards her He hits her once in the abdomen. She stumbles outside The gunman fires two shots towards Ashley's dog after firing ten shots So the gunman made his way upstairs and fired at five more rounds into an empty bedroom before fleeing You gotta think about a man when you in the streets, I know a lot of people not gonna get this but like When you in the streets, if you can't get the first if you can't get who you looking for Unfortunately, it's the next best thing Ashley Ashley did she ain't no no better man. She should have distance herself Love They say love don't cost the thing but it cost that girl her life That's tough. All right P. This is nice house, too She got carpet on the stairs Fireplace Feel free to keep the W add placement. I can't even lie perfect It got me right at the pinnacle of watch And then it's unskippable, which is tough When police arrived they were met with a bullet riddled home as officers rushed to locate Ashley They came across her dog carrying away in the corner. Thankfully, she survived Sadly, the same couldn't be said for Ashley emergency services tried their best to keep her alive But in the end she would succumb to her injuries. They were described as catastrophic So a murder inquiry was opened and initially it seemed as if this was going to be a difficult one for those of you Who aren't aware when similar attacks have happened in the past in Liverpool police have been met with a wall of silence You see many locals fear for their own safety if they come forward with information However, I don't think so man. Ashley had too much going on people probably mad about it Recent many people have done that to help assist police investigations. This being one of them Just days after Ashley was murdered members of the public told police that word was getting around that James with them was the gunman So why was Ashley targeted then? Well, you see she wasn't the actual target her boyfriend Lee Harrison was She just so happened to be in the house at the time when the gunman entered Lee Harrison And this is the man who wouldn't cooperate with the police to help find his girlfriend's killer and the same man who told Ashley's parents that he had no connection to the shooting whatsoever Police didn't need his help to establish a motive though nor to help catch those responsible Believe it or not Ashley played a huge role in solving her own murder Text messages and voice notes recovered from her phone helped police paint a timeline of events from the 2018 drugs robbery So it was clear to them that the motive had been revenge stemming from that incident The police's theory went as follows James with them and a man known as Joseph Pears Were dispatched from a flat in the heightened area of Liverpool to assassinate Lee Harrison James with them the actual gunman These orders were handed down by Niall Barry and Shawn Zeiss in revenge for the 2018 drugs robbery and Glastonbury attack What's awful says get back come with time? We said all the time Becks had been identified. It was time for police to make their arrests. There was one slight issue though Oh, but Shawn fled from the local area Shawn was arrested by police just over a week on from the murder in his first police interview He wrote a prepared statement saying he had nothing to do with the murder and denied being present at Ashley's home on the 21st of August another interview would take place days after the first one Shawn would stick with his story this time around He explained he was disgusted by what had happened and told police he had nothing to hide Which is why he didn't flee Joseph Pears and James with them made their way over to the McCure Hotel in St Helens after the murder had taken place They stayed there for one night enjoyed the spa and checked out the following morning on August 22nd, 2022 I say this I always say this when I be watching these type of videos man You really never can tell in the UK like out here. You almost know who the who the k i l l e r s is Are you know what out there? It's like Anybody could be the Starbucks barista could be a stepper out there. You don't know who? Who got it up? Okay Where they had a merry out This is so eerie right now What's going on? It isn't clear what they did on the 22nd But in the early hours of the following morning, they headed to Scotland to more than likely evade capture from police Police were unable to track their movements while in Scotland But by September 13th, they had intel that they were traveling back to Liverpool in an Audi Q7 It was time for them to be arrested Open the windows Alright lads keep your hands where you can see them Just keep your hands where you can see them Yeah, what about that side just need to drive around that side Yeah, no bother just open door for us. Okay, until we confirm your identity What's your name fellow? Gilsworth Dom's just getting driver out Suspicion and murder. Okay. You don't have to say anything. I'm a defence unit mention my question. Some picture later on in court It's just in the car and she was standing there Exxon worries from he says that's a he said this is out. I'm gonna put you in course mate. All right Oh Gary Gary Francis Francis Gary Gary Kelly, it's all right My is your I will walk over here fella No, you gotta let go of that cigarette. You're trying to hang on. It's over That's gonna be your last free cigarette. No, so I get it. Go ahead smoke you got anything on you shouldn't Know anything in the vehicle. It shouldn't be Yeah, James. Okay. You're under arrest for suspicion murder. All right. Yeah, there's given a fake name ever work Like come on that you're roll aside Arm police is right here. You gave a fake name Francis Kelly two first names They go they know who you are You gotta try All right Well, whatever time was now. Yeah So the 8th sleep is a pod cover that fits on a mattress like a fitted sheet, but it's temperature controlled so On the 24th of August 2022 three days after the murder Now you'll packed his bags and headed over to the Formby Hall golf and spa resort in Formby That's about an hour away from the flat in Heighton Intel They probably stopped you use the credit card to get some gas somewhere Somebody said I wonder how the police knew that they were traveling back Getting nicked for him and knowing you did it and it's over with like he almost literally cried on the roadside. We've seen that All four men would go on to charge with murder Conspiracy to murder in relation to Lee Harrison and conspiracy to possess a prohibited weapon with intent to endanger life All four men denied the charges that were placed against them and would go on trial Surprisingly though James with them just weeks before the trial admitted that he was the gunman But he never meant to shoot Ashley. So in his eyes, this was a case of manslaughter. However, the prosecution wouldn't accept the guilt And so he had to go on trial anyway a seven-week trial took place throughout October and November of 2023 all defendants apart from James, of course tried to distance themselves from the murder James said the shooting was an act of reckless madness and not a deliberate targeted incident He said he didn't see Ashley in the house He just wanted to shoot the place up to send a warning adding that he was suddened by how much pain he had caused Joseph Pears said there was no reason for him to have been involved in the incident because he wasn't involved in any of The background leading up to the shooting. He hadn't attended Glastonbury And he didn't take anyone's side in reference to the drugs robbery Sean Zeiss said that on the day in question He was at the flat in Heighton watching live sports He stuck to his story that he had absolutely nothing to do with the murder because he had no reason to hate Lee You see when Dusty attacked him at Glastonbury according to messages sent from Ashley to friends Lee was the one who told Dusty not to go after him again As they had been friends Nile said that he had no connection to the shooting is he had been at the flat with others including Sean in Heighton Adding there was no plan to attack Lee However, the jury didn't believe any of them and they were all found guilty on all the charges placed against them What'd they get? 17 years? 11.40 PM on the 20th of August last year A Hyundai car drove into Lentster Road in Old Swan, Liverpool Inside were two men James Witham and Joseph Pears They drove there as a result of a criminal agreement with Nile Barry and Sean Zeiss To kill the occupants of 40 Lentster Road using a scorpion submachine gun They each knew that Lee Harrison lived there with his partner Ashley Dale It was their home The car had been acquired in the days leading up to what happened with false number plates ready to use when the hiding of the car followed In an attempt to bring the occupants out of the house Witham and Pears stabbed the car tyres of the car parked outside That set off the car alarm Inside the house was Ashley Dale in her pyjamas watching television When she heard the alarm she believed it was caused by heavy rain and so she stayed inside Outside, Witham and Pears waited for their moment for this planned killing What followed was a murder of such seriousness that it has shocked both the local community and many in this country The use of a military grade submachine gun to kill a young woman in her own home at night In a planned shooting of the occupants of that house is beyond any understanding Imagine, I actually was in the crib probably watching Love Island chilling with her dog and that happened. I know she was terrified. That's bogus Dandy, just after half past midnight, Witham got out of the Hyundai car wearing a balaclava to hide his face He carried that scorpion submachine gun loaded with 15 bullets He broke through the locked front door, walked into the dining room Ashley was in that room alone, moving towards the kitchen back door to escape and there were lights on so that she was visible Witham wickedly fired 10 bullets towards her as she was vulnerable and defenseless One of those bullets passed through her abdomen and killed her Her screams were heard by neighbors leaving her to die Witham went upstairs looking for Lee Harrison In a bedroom he fired a further five bullets into the wall as a clear statement that if he had been in the house he would have been killed also After the shooting, Witham and Pears drove away The car was parked elsewhere out of view Later that day to be hidden on the driveway of a property in St. Helens A week later it was driven by Pears and Zeiss to be hidden on another driveway in St. Helens until it was discovered by the police on the 9th of October Ashley Dale died very shortly after she was shot Lee Harrison has refused to cooperate in the police investigation Somebody in a chat said they're struggling to feel sorry I told y'all like when they come to stuff like this I'm super jaded to it like I hear it but I'm also hearing the I'm reading it between the lines as well but it's also like sure why didn't you leave you knew what was up you know what I'm saying you know how scousers get out if they say something they'd be almost it's law almost it's bond you can count on it so involved with criminal drug dealing gangs is he with a family of Ashley Dale this must have been a cruel twist to the tragic loss of their daughter and sister not only was she brutally killed in her own home but Lee Harrison has refused to assist the police to bring her killers to justice stand up I sentence each of you to imprisonment for life on count one for the murder of Ashley Dale Nile Barry on count one murder your minimum term is increased to 35 years that must be further increased to reflect your offending in counts two three and in the second indictment your minimum term is 47 days 433 days served on remand change with them on count one murder they did gain that man 47 that's the I think that's the I ain't gonna lie that's one of the hardest like that's tough a 47 piece nugget well you ain't gonna never you might as well wrap it up your minimum term is also increased to 35 years that must be further increased to reflect your offending on counts two and three your minimum term is 43 years less 295 days served on remand Joseph Pierce on count one well I don't know how do you consider that court and be and take that amount of numbers 47 years it's over for you you from it it's over for you you turn it gray all your life is done on murder your minimum term is increased to 33 years that must be further increased to reflect your offending in counts two and three your minimum term is 41 years less 295 days served on remand so 40 Sean Zeiss on count one murder your minimum term is increased to 32 years that must be further increased to reflect your offending in counts two and three and the second indictment your minimum term is 42 years less 448 days served on remand and they they said they said minimum so they gotta serve that 42 the whole 42 hold 42 43 47 and 44 on count two conspiracy to murder I impose a concurrent sentence of imprisonment for life on each of you with a minimum term of 18 years custody oh jeez on count three conspiracy to possess a prohibited firearm and ammunition with intent to endanger life I impose a concurrent sentence of 14 years imprisonment on each of you that's tough the sentences on the second indictment of 30 years imprisonment for you Barry and 10 years for you Zeiss will also be served concurrently they're running concurrently but still still you will each be required to pay the statutory charge but in your case is Zeiss and Barry I postpone the making of the order until the conclusion of the confiscation proceedings under the proceeds of crime act 2002 in your cases peers and with them I make the search of charge the order now like listen to how crazy that song they got sentenced and when did they get sentenced 2022 2023 or was what's 47 plus 2023 what is what is that that's 2070 imagine picking up the phone to your girl and being like yeah baby you gonna wait for me I'll get out in 2070 that is different like you can't you can't even really you can't even really fat like I don't even know what's going to be going on in the world I can't even imagine the world in 2070 who will be in the appropriate amount and set out God be sick take him down Susan just say once you know just one time she's not gonna do it come on we got a bet going what's the bet oh the Ted can get mom to swear just eat your supper fellas Ian Fitzgibbon had also been on trial charged with the same offenses but he beat the case he celebrated in court when the not guilty verdicts were given this more than likely was the result of him being very close with Ashley and Lee in court he said if Lee had cooperated with police and gave evidence at the trial he would tell the jury how close they were meaning he wouldn't take part in the murder plot of a friend and so that's the tragic tale of Ashley Dale I think sometimes as viewers we can forget that these are real people behind these stories with real people who still today are hurting over the loss of a loved one this case though is even more heartbreaking because the family haven't just lost one child to gun violence on the streets of Liverpool you see back in 2015 Ashley's innocent younger brother had also been shot dead by gang members in that case Lewis Dunn god their parents are going through laws both they kissed us violent that's crazy Ashley's brother had crossed paths with three gang members on his way to borrow a bike the gang members had been on the losing end of a clash with rivals earlier on that day and they mistook Lewis for a rival gang member Lewis was shot in the back with a double-barreled shotgun the suspects Jake Colshaw John Martin and Paul Martin left him for dead that's a family then that's lost two innocent children that's crazy two civilian children lost the gang violence y'all gotta y'all gotta move to gun violence on the streets of Liverpool yeah i feel bad for the parents see that's see that's the thing i'll be having to remember like i'm jaded to all this violence like because i've seen so much of it and i'll be knowing that it would be more to a story than what you hear and what's really out and blah blah blah but like at the end of the day these people got parents and right now the parents is going they're going to feel that pain forever that pain is never going to go away so my condolences go out to the pan all right peeps oh there's one more there's a younger sister dang i'm glad she didn't stay her little sister really oh so he did get labeled so okay so when we was feeling them snitch vibes earlier in the video we was right after the trial we reported that meal well we still don't know we're we're from the outside looking in as a matter of fact the people in the neighborhood labeled them that so all right after the trial was it was reported that meal berries sauces and if his word was named as potential shooters of the murder of them leaves not cooperated from the very outset of this case you know it was one of the first things we were briefed on back in september of last year and it hasn't changed as the trial's ongoing what we've done is we've gone okay well we're still going to investigate and prosecute this case irrespective of your wish to hide away from these criminals your wish to you know to hide away from what's going on and bury your head in the sand which i think is particularly important in respectively um but we have got that perseverance and the police certainly have it so the no grass culture the police will investigate irrespective and we will look at other avenues um but these actions in not assisting whatsoever particularly not assisting the family are quite frankly disgusting i think it was very early on a conscious decision made uh for whatever those reasons were um from him to not fully cooperate and uh we i don't even know why we're discussing this we's not we was not going to say nothing it didn't matter but it was this girl like let's just rip the band aid off it doesn't matter y'all still gotta go what do you what y'all it still got done um ashley has had to do it herself um y'all still got job it's never too late for anybody um to come forward and help disrupt criminality and take um weapons off the street of this nature so no it is never too late um we still have even though we've come so far and found out so much and um have such extensive evidence to convict these individuals for what they've done we still want to encourage people to come forward and include those that are involved in criminality uh that they can get themselves out of it they can take weapons off the street and they can help prevent other victims of such horrendous crimes um and prevent it from happening so my ask would be the scorpion is still outstanding it is an extremely dangerous weapon um i want to know where that is and any information will be acted upon i'm not gonna lie i was just about to ask where y'all get a scorpion from like where y'all get that from because we was really like to recover that and y'all might as well hang it up y'all not recovering that it's over maybe like 10 years down the line you'll find it but but no not now you know oh they're popular here i'm not jones ashley's stepdad from when ashley was 12 just to start with then do you want to tell talk that that's that's the love ashley just tell us what she was like really nothing what your memories have actually are yeah it's um it's difficult to sort of just going to sound really funny this it's hard to sort of remember back since before this happened i thought it sounded really strange but i feel like them something bit of a time walk really from august last year um but she was she was obviously has actually gone over 16 so we grew up together pretty literally we were like best friends oh okay she had her when she was 16 okay so she only 16 she was 16 years of 30 22 23 33 she was only 39 she she was good she was good good child and she was something she's very career driven she knew what she wanted she she had a job from when she was 16 although she always worked and obviously decided to go into the chosen career of environment at half what she went into she went to university to do as a group for um she was very outgoing she was happy she she loved going out she loved clothes um sort of the festivals um and she was very family oriented as well she had two young sisters i think probably from about the age of five she always asked what she had like a brother or sister um and i was kind of in the process of starting my career at a bit of a later age so she had four kids originally she got two little sisters and a brother that passed away and she got a little bit old and stuff so she didn't really deliver that until she was 16 and then she um he has a he has our first baby together me and Rob so she got a little sister which was absolutely delighted about um and then we decided to have another one and she was a bit like oh i really wanted one so i think she was about taking her back that she got two sisters in four years but um but no she she loves her sister she really really did she spoiled them rotten and you mentioned how close you were did you have a kind of more of a sister relationship with her yeah yeah yeah so we spoke every day daily on the phone via you know a phone call most mornings we one of us would drink each other and check in for the day um and then it continues throughout the day like you know i want that message or you know call or whatever you feel i still feel for you like r.i.p but that is concerning for me what you just said we have more of a sister we have more of a sister instead of a mother daughter situation going on because like i don't want to speak on y'all relationship it's nothing a daughter but like i feel like if y'all had a mother daughter dynamic instead of a sister sister dynamic certain things wouldn't have been going on but i'm gonna keep peeing keep you know respectfully respectfully she sent me you know each fashion tips or things for house you know your house on instagram or whatever nevertheless you couldn't have chose who she dated it is what it is so we had constant dialogue every day until it was a bedtime but that sounds like that's how it was pretty much every day really um the last year you know it has been unbearable it really has you know never mind just having to deal with the fact that Ashley's not here anymore you know like you know she you know she's just passed away that the whole you know details and the whole how it happens and everything else being thrust into this public arena you know lashes deaf being so public you know that's why i'm trying to you know back my tongue a little bit you know being broadcast the program and you're a so notable one woman too so just on television and in the papers and stuff like that um yeah it's it's been very hard i feel like i described that i feel like i'm having an out-of-body experience like i'm living someone else's life and i don't know if it ever will feel real i see i know that i just come back again that you know i know that i'm never she's i really she's i'm going to see her again but in terms of how it's happened and stuff i don't think i'm gonna be able to accept it and it's never gonna make any sense to me as to how or why this has happened other things that you've heard during the trial surprise you did you expect and everything that came on that you've heard or have you been shocked and surprised by some of the things that have happened yeah i've respectively um i feel your pain i wouldn't i i hope to never know your pain but i understand um this is a this was a crazy story for sure but i'm just gonna leave it like that man tl leave it like comment subscribe turn on your post notification i'm down