 Let's do the thing. Let's do it. Let's do it like we're doing it in the do it space. You're not my type. I wasn't asking you. Hey, welcome back to our stupid right to the heads of Corbin. Eh. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter for us. Instagram, Twitter for us. We need to. I'm fine. Yeah. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter for us. Yeah. Yeah. Today. What are we doing? We're doing a move. I actually went to my nose that time. It kind of got stuck there. We are doing a review of a Hindi language film, Gulal. Gulal. Gulal. Gulal. Which means crimson, I believe. Does it? I think it does. I could be wrong. But it came out 2009. It's an Anyard Kashyap film. Yes, surprisingly. We've only seen, if you include Gangster Wasper as one film, six Anyard Kashyap directed films. That's about right, I think. It just seems like more, because obviously he's done a bunch of, he's written. DevD, Gangster Wasper, Rahman Raghav 2.0, this. Black Friday. Black Friday. And then what's the sixth one? DevD. I keep wanting to say, Bombay-Vilovit, but we haven't seen it. We haven't seen it yet. We want to. We haven't seen it yet. We want to see it. Anyways, but technically, if you include Sacred Games as well, though, he directed Sacred Games. And he's done a bunch that, he's written a bunch. We've seen a bunch that he's been one of the writers. Yeah, so that's why it seems like, we've seen- His name is everywhere. Anyard Kashyap films, but technically, of his directed stuff, if you include Gangster Wasper as one film, I think we've only seen six. But yes, 2009, filmed by Anyard Kashyap, written, at least a dialogue by Anyard Kashyap. It's also written by Raj Singh. Raj Singh Chaudhry. Who also stars in the film. Correct. And then the story, Sanjay Mariah. And then it's composed by Piyash Mishra, who also stars in the movie. That's amazing, this collaborative effort at all. And I heard, you can let me know if this is correct or not. I think this took four years to film. That is correct. I saw that it took, he started it in 2001. And he only filmed in Diwali. So they get their lighting right, but for cheaper, essentially. So there's a whole bunch of stuff that went into that. This has been on my radar for a long time. I think it was what, his third film? Yeah, part of the reason this was on our radar is because when we were first introduced to KK Men and everybody was saying, this is one of those you wanna see KK Men in. And of course, Anyard Kashyap. Of course. And we love. But, and still one of my favorite songs on my play. And the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the. Still one of my favorite songs. But yes, so it's been on our radar for a long time. So we've been meaning to get to it. If you haven't watched it, go watch it. I don't know where you can watch it. I had to buy the DVD. That is the only place it's, there's one site that has it, but the audio is complete shit. And so, you know, I don't ever wanna watch a film that like either the video quality, shit, or the audio sound. So it ruins the. Yeah, we need good audio, good visuals. And you need, for us, we need the subtitles to be accurate and good. Anyway, so this is gonna be a hundred and four. It came out in 2009. If you haven't watched it, go watch it. Please come back. Yes. Rick, your initial thoughts. So this is one of those movies that is proof positive of a number of things. One of them being that just because the film doesn't do well box office-wise doesn't have anything to do with the quality of the film. Because this didn't do well at the box office. It didn't have word of mouth. And that's because there's a steady diet of certain things that happen in all movie industries that this doesn't fall into that category. This kind of film falls into the category of people who love higher level storytelling, the elevated purpose of motion pictures. It, again, just confirms that Anurag Kashyap is the man, one of my favorite directors. I can go on and on. So you hated it. I loved this movie. Bahubali 2 or this? It's right in there. Sorry, I just had to make you mad. I just had to make you mad. Yeah. And I'll actually will say something about that in a second because I do wanna harp a little bit on the fact that there are a lot of purposes for movies and entertainment is a purpose. But when we're talking about the more higher elevative purposes based on the design of storytelling and movies, yes. I'm gonna annoy some of you and I don't care because design reveals purpose. This just hits the mark of the kind of film that you expect from Anurag Kashyap and the kind of film that the international community will look at and go, dang, that's great on a bunch of levels. Yeah. I loved it as well. Yeah, I love this. I don't think there was any question that I would like this film when it ended. They shit, one ended how I like films to end with death. But also, some great performances. Great performances. I'm so glad we got to see this one because I've said it for a while because KK Meneng gets mentioned in the same breath of our favorites. Correct. Nawaz, Irfan, Manoj, Pankaj, all those, the people that we just, Yeah, Niraj, the people that we just absolutely adore and respect their artistry. He always could mention that. And I think we've only, outside of this, I think it was two things before this. Two things on the scene. It was Black Friday and a header. Which I... Black Friday header and we saw the scene of him. Oh yeah. Remake of the... That's right. And we've seen his trade-illusion stuff. But of his films, we'd only seen, this is the third one we've seen. And I kind of had a renvier belly boy moment with him because when we watched Header, I said he was one of the people that I was just, he was okay. And it was really, just because I'm drawn to more eccentricities in characters and more like corky kind of characters. But I didn't know the man. Just like when we watched Gulliboy, I didn't know Renvier. Exactly. I didn't know like what, not that this, not that Header was a stretch for him. Right. It's very, very different. He's a very different guy. But like seeing him and like, I've watched Header many times since. And obviously it's, I have such a more appreciational, but he, let's just talk about him. Off the bat. He gave me Pankajian and Mizoper vibes, but not saying he was like him, but he gave me those. The quality. Like menacing. The quality. Like heavy. He's like a Brando and the Godfather. Like he just brings a weight to it. And not all actors can do that. No. Just by their presence. And the man just, I can't rave enough about this performance for him. He was absolutely phenomenal. Captivating every single second he was on screen. Amen. I love him. I couldn't agree more. I was absolutely fascinated with him. I couldn't wait for him to get back on screen. I was thinking to myself, how have I missed, how mesmerizing his presence is in those eyes. Yeah. Great eyes. And so believe, I believed everybody in this film, but I was especially impressed. And I can see why so many of these stupid babies have raved about K.K. Menon because this immediately catapulted him for me into an echelon of, oh my stars. And he is in that category of names we mentioned. I feel like when you do see a lot of people want him. And funnily enough, two of our favorite directors work with our favorite actors. It's amazing how that works. It really is. How great talents work with great talents. There's a lot of motion on you. I cost you a lot of work with, you know, monos, we've got Nawaz, we've got Pankaj, we've got K.K. Yeah. Radhika. Well, it's just the natural byproduct of why wouldn't you want to? Any project that you work on, no matter how big or small or whatever it is, when you work with people that you have fun working with and give you more than you even wanted, both from the aspect of a director having an actor give them more and an actor seeing the director give them, when you rap, it's like, okay, when's the next time we can work together? Yeah. So it makes sense. And the next person, even though there's a lot of people who get to all of them, was actually, it was some of my favorite moments in the entire thing, but we're with the composer himself, and we'll talk about the composition, but say his name. Piyush Mishra, who's the composer of this and sings the songs, but he's also a character and a very interesting character. He's here. Okay. I don't know. Did you, was he your second favorite after K.K.? Yeah. I like, yeah. And then I have a third after this, obviously the third is, and there wasn't anybody I didn't allow. Oh, absolutely not. At all. But he was, and I'd love to know Onurag's mindset and the creation of his character because the, this... Very Shakespeare-y. That's the word. I was just coming out of my mouth. This is Shakespeare, and he plays very much the role of many of Shakespeare's plays where you have the proverbial or the literal court jester who isn't just there to be the comic relief. The court jester's actually giving you a profound message throughout the storytelling. And it was the way that Shakespeare loved, and it's one of my favorite things about him is he loved to take society's norms and flip them on their head and take the people that were the outcasts and make them the heroes of the story and vice versa. I thought he was perfect. He was hysterical. I also love... Sorry, my favorite scene in the entire thing was when K.K., and they were he and the guy in the blue in the blue were chasing around the room. Yes. Like outside, I love the end, but like that's whole scene. I also love his phone conversation with Noah. Yeah. I love both of those, but that scene was so quirky and off the wall and captivating. I'm like, what is going on right now? I agree. Okay, so third, who's your third standout for you? Of the cast. Cause I have an absolute third one. And actually... There's, there's... Probably, this was actually maybe my second, if I'm really honest about it. And assessing. I like the guy with the helmet. A lot. Okay, yeah. But the girl, the, what's her name? The one that he slept with and got pregnant. Or you talked about the other one. I like, yeah. I love both of them. I love them both. I love them both, but there was something, and this is a bias I can't help, I don't expect anything. You talked about the first girl. Yeah, the first girl. The one he was in the room with when he was naked. In the beginning. Yes. Who... You get the idea that she likes him, but he's not interested and gets mad at her. Okay. Her. On Your Rock's constant close-ups on her. The camera loves her. She's captivating. What's her name? So beautiful. I want to mention her name. Jesse... No, it's Jesse. Yes. Jesse Rundawa. She played Anuja. Looks like she's in fashion. Another reason I get to watch that. She has a presence about her. And what I was apologizing for is, any, I can't help this, but any actress who at times goes in different places and reminds me at times of Andrani. Who's Andrun? Well, fascinate me. Who's Andrun? But what's very funny is I have Andrani on my laptop and the short film I was doing, the actor playing my brother next to me, he saw my laptop open and it's got this picture of her that goes multiple on the thing. And he looked at me and he went, oh, is that Priyanka Choudhra? She looks nothing like Priyanka. What? Sutterweight. It's hilarious. We all do it. Yeah, exactly. But I thought... My thought about that was, of course you're gonna think she's Miss World because I think I'm Andrani's gorgeous. So that I do have any time there's an actor, like some of the films with Ashwarya when she was younger, especially like in Joe to Akbar when her eyes were brown. I was like, oh, you remind me of Andrani. But I thought she did a great job. She did a great job. Everybody really did a great job. Both the girls I thought did really well, they were really well. Really strong. One of my favorite things about Anyrani, even though I love almost all parts of Anyrani, he's a writer first. Obviously, that's how he got into it. He's so fucking good at dialogue. He's like Quentin. Yeah, he makes everything sound normal and natural, which is a gift to actors to have a good written dialogue script. I've never seen, even though there's films that we didn't love a ton like Dephti or... We liked Black Friday, it just wasn't... We didn't love it. Yeah, I agree. Those would be down at the bottom for us in terms of we didn't dislike them. No, but it was... His dialogue is always good. Yes. Like, he's just such a good writer. Obviously, we loved Ugly. Obviously, Gangs of Wasp are the sacred games. All those are just so well written. This included the stuff that he did. That was the sixth one, Ugly. Ugly, that's what I was. That was the sixth one, I love Ugly. Yeah, I can't imagine. We mentioned Quentin a lot because he's so unique, he's so gifted, he loves movies and he's a cinephile. You know, he's making cameos in his films too. Yeah, he's making cameos. He doesn't have a foot fetish. You were absolutely right. So, he sent me something. If you don't know about Quentin's foot fetish, it's a real thing. But Quentin and the cameos, but I can't imagine that Quentin being the cinephile that he is doesn't know who on your office loves him. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. But his direction in this was so unique. And I thought he got... You can see his growth in terms of what we've seen of his newer stuff from sacred games to even a Gangs of Wasp to Ugly to more recent stuff. And from even the film before this was Black Friday that we saw before this. And I think you can see his growth as a director. And he's still, especially earlier in his, he's still, he's loved it throughout his career. He loves using color as almost a character, but especially in his beginnings. Obviously, it was heavily in your face in Black Friday. I think it's even more perfected in this one. This is gorgeous. And the way he worked with his cinematographer... Yeah, I would say... Hold on, the cinematographer is... Yeah, the cinematographer is Rajiv Ravi. I would... He worked with him a lot. I'd be pressed to talk about which one is... This might be, I'd have to go back and look at them, but off the top of my head, this feels like this is by far the most striking because he's usually just gritty and color and not striking for me in terms of the cinematography. It almost... I can't describe it. I just know that the color in this and the use of color and the way things were lit and variations with the color and the cinematography were standouts in the storytelling, especially the moments that they had with KK Menon talking to the group with the emblem behind him and that with his costume and his eyes and the opening of them with the red on their face, so captivating. Yeah, and then obviously he just uses cues of light on certain scenes like on one person and you don't have deep, deep red in another person. There's so many, obviously, uses and interpretations you can take from that that he's so good at writing, he's so good at just incorporating it all. And obviously for the time, even though the issues I could find with this are minute, but in terms of like, it might be a little dated in terms of technology, we can't harp in for that. The editing is a little choppy at points. I agree. And so that would be my biggest gripe. I agree and that's a minute gripe. Yeah, it didn't inhibit my viewing experience, but it's like some of the editing could have been, I think, a lot smoother and that might have been budgetary, might have been whatever, I don't know. But yeah, that would be my biggest gripe with the film, but I loved the guy with the helmet at the beginning. I thought it was really cool. I was actually really sad when he was no longer a character because I thought he was so interesting. I thought everybody was great. I thought the, Maybe talk about the lead. Yeah. Well, I was about to get to him. The guy who plays the bully at the university who takes Dilip, our lead and messes around with him. Yes. And I thought he was fantastic. Yeah. But yeah, let's go straight to Rod Dilip. Rod Dilip? Yeah, Dilip. Yeah. Dilip Kumar. Dilip Kumar, is it right? No, no, like his name is, oh yeah, it is. Yeah. Dilip Kumar Singh. But they made a joke about Dilip Kumar. Right. But I felt that Raj Singh Chowdhury was exceptional. I felt like he was fully believable as a character who is kind of, I love the scene. It's so little is said, but it was so befitting his character when he's finally going to, he's forced by KK Madden to run and he's up there and he really isn't comfortable. And he just says something awkward. And then they're like, yeah, long live Dilip. I thought that was a perfect fitting, just portrait of him the whole time until the very end, I completely believed that he got pushed to the edge because he started to get pushed right from the beginning and just his switch got flipped. I was at the beginning of the film, for most of the film, I was like, he's doing a good job. He's not my favorite. Right. But then he flipped the switch and I was like, I like it. That's what I like. I just like, I was like a little, a little pizzazz, I guess, if you were. When he did it, he didn't lose the character. Oh, it wasn't overacted. Absolutely not. Cause it would have been really easy for an inexperienced actor to do that and just go batshit crazy. Kind of like we saw in Debty, even though a lot of you liked Debty, that was probably the first time in a non-York film that I've seen actors do great. Not too great, where they did something and it felt like it was for a fact rather than out of a natural. Even though I know you guys don't agree with that. That's fine. That's fine. But that was like the first time that I'd seen that in a non-York film cause he usually has actors really subdued. Yeah. Really, really natural. But I thought he did a great job in the end part, especially when it was just him and KK and he was like, I wanna see her. I wanna see her. Cause she's having this crazy Hamlet moment in his head. Yeah. I love her. I love her. She loves me. I know she does. Right. I don't know what you're dealing with. I fully believed KK was dying in that moment with his blood on his hands and the continuity that they did, I so appreciate the specificity of, if you notice that when Dilip gets shot, then he goes for the walk. And as he goes for the walk, they cut away in different spots and they come back and then he's on the ground and he's rolling. They soaked the shirt. And I don't know if they filmed it sequentially or not, if they didn't even more kudos, but the bleed out was believable. And something like that can pull me immediately from the believability of the scene. If I see a guy got shot and he's bleeding out and then the next cut, it's half the blood you saw a second ago. That kind of detail. And I just love the movie. I wanna talk about the composer. Pia, what's his name? Pia Mishra. And also, sorry. Hitesh Sorek. And forgive me, try to pronounce the names perfectly. The background score and the music production and all the little songs. Yes. But there's one of my favorite scores in a long, long time. I loved this score. Me too. One, they brought my song back multiple times. I was so glad. Oh, goody. But he has such a great voice because that's him singing as well. That's him doing, oh, that was him doing his singing. He did his own singing? It wouldn't surprise me since he's musical, but I didn't realize that because so often the actors don't lend their own voices. He, I, now you made me a question. I just didn't know. I'm pretty sure that was him. If you look at the song, I'm pretty that that's on the playlist. It's him singing. And so he was the singer of all the songs, which was great because he's the singer and the thing. And talk about some of the musical numbers that On York, obviously, if we've talked to our Dost on York about how he likes to use music because he does something to do big Bollywood numbers. And there were actually a couple in this, but it was integrated into it, obviously. And they weren't, see, here's the thing. When he uses a number, he won't just make it a number that is- He's trying to have an item number. For an item number that's just fluff and entertainment. He'll do it, and I loved it. There's one in particular. I love the tower. It's her. And it's her song where there's a message in there. Also, I'm talking about, there was a message about Afghanistan. Literally. They're literally, well, it's been 20 frickin' years. But like, literally a message about how point, like, literally it's happening, as you guys know, unless you're in a cave of what's going on with Afghanistan right now. It's like extremely relevant, obviously, because we were still in Afghanistan. Yeah, we've been there. But anyways. Too long. How poignant it was. And also, like, when the towers fell, I'm like, oh, shit, we're, I know, I know. So I loved, obviously, the vagina on Anirag, as we've talked about. Yeah. To just say what you wanna say, because there's also big political undertones. Not politically, this is about politics. Well, it's wrong. Yeah, let's get into the subject matter. Sorry, this is a long, it's a long review. When we, if you notice, if you notice the runtime of our reviews. It's not always the case. If it's close to half an hour, we probably love the film. Not always, but it's usually pretty good. On the Huns, on the Huns is long because of the rant. But also because it's a great fucking film. Exactly. So the movies we don't like, just look, if the review is under 20 minutes, we probably didn't like the film. Not always, but it's usually true. Not always. It's kind of a rule. And it's usually true. But here's something I found that, because I wanna, one of the great things about Indian cinema is virtually every film you watch, you're learning something new and I feel like it's gonna be a lifelong journey of reaching a sub-level of understanding that most Indians just have by living there. I don't think we'll ever reach anything approximate to what it's like to be an Indian in any way, shape, or form. But being Orajput, listen to this definition. Orajput, and forgive me if this is not completely accurate, but it says the meaning of that means son of a king. Orajput is a large multi-component cluster of castes, kin bodies, and local groups sharing social status and ideology of genealogical descent originating from the Indian subcontinent. The term Rajput covers various patriarchal clans historically associated with warriorhood. Several clans claim Rajput status, although not all clans are universally accepted. According to modern scholars, almost all Rajput clans originated from peasant or pastoral communities. That is the entry point. Of learning about what Orajput, so to walk away from this and feel like, yeah, I know what Orajput is and what they're dealing with here, I'm like, no, little baby. There's probably stuff that flew over our heads. Multiple things. Which is references, but I feel like I got a lot of it because I really enjoyed this film. I thought it's overall, where would you put this in your, in terms of his directing? It's very high. Not including sacred games. Not including sacred games or gangs, gangs. You have to include gangs. Gangs is number one. Yeah. He'll have to do something extraordinary that is on the level of a, because gangs is like the godfather. I mean, that's just that he, that may be his quintessential piece of art. I would say this is probably third for me. After? Raman Raghav because of Nawaz. Yeah. It's kind of like, whereas, here's a great example. Raman Raghav is a lot to me like the Dark Knight. Whereas, what the Dark Knight is all about is Heath. Without Heath, I don't know that I'd care that much about Dark Knight. Same thing with Raman Raghav. It's that character and it's Nawaz playing that role. And it's so good that I just want to watch it over and over again to just wonder at Nawaz. Whereas this is a far more well-rounded story directing everything else. So it was a film, I think ultimately as a film, this is a better film, but I have such a love for Nawaz and Raman Raghav. It's a little more dated in terms of quality, in terms of like picture quality than others. I think Ugly's too for me. Ugly's too. Ugly's great. I loved Ugly. Yeah, Ugly's great. But I like Raman Raghav more. Then it's, this one's probably three or four depending on where, how my mood is for Raman Raghav. Cause you know, I loved Raman Raghav too. But yeah, it'd probably be three or four. It's right in the, but they're, they're all so good. Obviously at the bottom, it would just be Devdy and, and... Yeah, Devdy's probably my least favorite of all. Yeah, Devdy would definitely be my least favorite. And I know there's quite a few more and there's also just stuff that he's written that we could have included in this and there's Sacred Games, which we loved. I really feel the comparison between him and Quentin is a great comparison because I feel the same way. I feel the same way every single time. We do it because first of all, the love of film is so palpable in their films. And their, their intelligence about storytelling and cinema is, is genius IQ. And their, their thumbprint is all over what they do that when you talk about which of them do you like least? It's like, yeah, I like that one least, but still it's compared to most other filmmakers. It's fan fiction. It's my least favorite Quentin film. And it's still a really good film. That's most people's favorite. So it's, it's one of those things. But anyways, obviously we will watch everything on Your Rocks Done, even the stuff that you guys don't think is good, like Bombay Velvet or whatever. It doesn't matter. I still want to see it because I'm curious as to what happened. What else is out there? What else is out there? But what should, what should be our next on Your Rock film? I'm still really sad we missed AK versus AK. Maybe we'll get to that. I know. I think that would be fun. That would be a fun one. And it's on Your Rock acting, which he doesn't do that much anymore. So I'd like to see it. So, but anyways, what should be our next on Your Rock film and KK Menon? Yeah, come on. Please tell us what the next KK Menon should be for us in the comments below.