 Good evening, Andy. Sorry, I got sidetracked there for a moment. Right. How is my sound? Good afternoon. Sounds good. And Kristen, whenever you're ready, we can go ahead and try your sound. Hi, everyone. Hello. Good evening. So important to arrange the windows correctly so you don't have to fiddle with it trying to meet him. Good afternoon, my name is Andy Gustafson and I am the zoning administrator. I like to call the order the November 2nd, 2001 meeting of the zoning administrator. This is a special meeting. We can bring housing items like this forward to a meeting outside of our normal zoning administrator Thursday alternate weeks meeting schedule to promote efficient and streamline processing of housing projects that are so vitally needed. Okay, this is a remote meeting. It will be conducted as we would conduct any in person meeting. We are meeting remote pursuant to government code section 54953 E, and the recommendation of the public health officer of the county that we hold this public meeting and other public will be remotely via zoom seminar or webinar. The members of the public will be able to participate as as with any meeting, but in this case, we will, you'll be required to raise your hand to select the hand icon, and you'll be recognized, or if you're dialing in. You'll need to press star nine, and you'll be recognized. This is a one item agenda. And so before we go forward, as with any public meeting, we do allow for and I don't see on the agenda which should be here is opportunity for public comments so I will Sorry, sorry, Andy, but remember, we learned from the clerk's office that we don't do public comment at a special meeting. Okay. My practices to in experiences that we do allow that but I will make a more issue that that's fine. At least then, there shall be no public comment and let's proceed directly to the first and only item on the agenda. And the project planner is Kristen a tumors and it is a design review for 891 Third Street. Thank you, Mr. presentation. Thank you, Mr. Gustafson. This is a project at 891 Third Street, it's known as the 891 Third Street multi family housing project. And the project description states that the project is a 18 unit three story multi family project and the proposal is the second phase of the adjacent mid rise located at 884 streets. The unit sizes range from 358 square feet to 448 square feet. The proposal design includes podium level common space rooftop terrace and rear picnic area under existing oak trees. It's located in the downtown area specific plan area off of Third Street very close to Brookwood. Here is an aerial of the project site. It's flanked by structures. I believe they're both used as office space. Actually, I believe one is a residence and one is an office. And the companion project is the larger vacant parcel that you see there on four street. So this is the general plan and zoning designations. So the general plan and zoning designations have both changed since 884 Street was approved. And that project is currently under construction. The 884 Street project was owned CD seven. And the general plan designation was retail business service. The parcel the project site today was commercial office. And now they're both NMU neighborhood mixed use. And rather than so CD seven would limit development by height and stories. And CO normally wouldn't allow for residential uses. But now with NMU, the density limitation is created by FAR, which is kind of a new concept for the city. This is the general plan designation for the subject property. And as you can see, it's been a new surrounding it as well. Here's the project site looking straight straight at it from third street. You can see the two buildings that flank on either side. And you can actually see 884 Street under construction the peers. And foundation that's been poured in the reverse sticking up. You can see it on four street for the 884 Street project. It's currently under construction. And here is a rendering showing the proposed project. You can see it in the sort of an olive green color flanked by those two buildings. This is the applicant provide a neighborhood context map. This is a site plan that shows the 884 Street site and the current project site. Here is the proposed site plan the apartment complex would be set towards the front in order to preserve oak trees in the back that would serve as an amenity space for the residents. The FAR, NME requires that an applicant meet the midpoint of the FAR, which is four. This project doesn't quite do that because for one, the building is more compatible with the existing uses on third street. And second, the oak trees in the back, as well as some utilities, existing utilities in the back provide obstacles for building out for an FAR of four. Another thing to note is, since the adoption of the downtown area specific plan, the newest version, there is no parking requirement in the downtown area. And while the applicant states that parking, the residents will be able to use parking on 884 Street. There's no city requirement for the applicant to do that that's a voluntary measure that the applicant is taking. And it's also interesting to note that 884 Street is built beyond what the FAR limit allows. So, the new general plan designation and specific plan designation sort of make it complicated. So the FAR for 884 Street is I think, what it should be for. But I think if you average the two sites, it is within midpoint range. So continuing on. These are the overall floor floor and roof plans. So you can see the three stories and the roof. Partial first and second floors so you can see the units will lay out. There is a pathway shown on the right side that would take the residents to the rear amenity yard. And to the parking at 884 Street. Sorry, there's a delay. Here are some elevations so exterior elevations of the south and east. This project did go before the designer view board for concept designer view. And it was met with a very favorable comments. I think they had very minor suggestions, but no, as they say, shalls for the applicant, just things for the applicant to consider as far as changes. Here's a document in the resolution. Here's a rendering of what it would look like from 3rd Street, sort of at an angle. Here's another model. I believe looking at the rear amenity space towards 3rd Street. This is the rear yard and another view from 3rd Street. This is the proposed color scheme for the project and the light fixture, which would be downcast as required by code. And the proposed landscape plan. And if there are any questions, I'm here to answer them. The applicant is also available to answer questions. I will return to the midpoint density calculation and its relationship to the property and at the end of the public presentation and the applicant's presentation. Now's opportunity for the applicant to comment or provide more information. If you wish to do so, please raise your hand and you'll be recognized. I see to Paul Gilger was the first hand up so let's recognize Paul. Hi everybody, Paul Gilger here. Can you hear me okay. Yes. Was the other hand if you trail. I can't hear you. It was. Yes. Why don't we do this let's have you go first. Okay. The only thing I just had one clarification. In the very first slide you mentioned that there was common space on the ground floor, not inside the building just out back, and the building does not have a roof deck. So you can see it from the plans, but that's all I wanted to really say. Thanks. Let's recognize Mr. Okay. Can you hear me now. Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. You futile. 204 street. I'll be, I'll be brief and then turn things over to the project architect Paul, Paul Gilger. Just a couple of quick observations. The project is in essence the second phase of the larger project, and the residents in this building that we're discussing this afternoon will have access to all the common facilities in the larger project. And I would imagine that's why the project description made the reference that it did that would include the roof tech and, and among, among other things. The floor area ratio, a correction. Christina, I think that you're, you're an error. I did the calculations on the floor area ratio for the existing building, and it's my recollection is it's 3.97 actually. So it actually is within the four within the existing plan. Rose and I exchanged some emails on that topic because I was concerned when the floor area ratio was coming through for this area of town and, and I thought you know this is awfully awfully close to have prevented this larger project from having gone forward. Five stories above podium and of course, most of the podium is a garage, and the five stories only make up a portion of the totality of the of the 30,000 square foot building and that's what lowered the FAR. The combined is though as you pointed out well below for in any case. The floor area ratio I believe on on this particular project 891 Third Street is is very low I believe it's less than than 1.5 actually, and there are the other factors which influenced us in in coming forward with not only a three story design but also a design in which a very large portion of the site was not built on at all. And in terms of any other issues I think Paul can cover them architecturally, but I'll be happy later answer questions as well. So if it's appropriate, and I would step back and turn this over to Paul. Thank you. All do you have any more that you want to add. Thank you so much for Chris and I can you go back to the presentation. Let's just do two things let's go to the floor plan first. And I'll just very briefly, and I think the building is relatively self explanatory but there were quite a few goals that Mr future I had. And we wanted to accomplish with this job. So if you're able to go to the one of the floor plan sheets or even it's about it was about the third sheet in on your presentation. We'll take a look at it. And then after we look at that we'll look at the exterior Kimberly or Kristen are you in control of the presentation can you show those exhibits. Thank you. Perfect. So, we've really packed a lot into a small build. And one of the goals here by the developer was to try to create very pragmatic housing. We did not require us to have to come through a bunch of hoops rules and regulations that takes us up in the never never land. We wanted something very buildable. And you can see that with the unit sizes in the 400 square foot range. And we've made all the ground floor units, ADA accessible, which is pretty amazing considering it's pretty hard to get units this small to be ADA accessible. And we feel that this project really fills a need in the town, which is the very efficient one bedroom apartments. We do have a wide range of housing stock that we have to take care of. Not the least of which, like myself or singles seniors people like that who would really enjoy being back downtown. The goal here was to try to create affordable housing, economical pragmatic that can be built using standard building materials, and also to try to keep the building more in scale in an architecture with third street. So, if Chris and I if you're able to advance the presentation up to maybe the front perspective of third street is probably the best one to go to. I keep going there. Go past the, the two dimensional elevations if you can get to the go past these and then perhaps the very first 3D image of the model would be great. There we go. Yeah, back to one more. There we go. Great. So, did a lot of walking around the neighborhood and we tried to use building materials that were prevalent in the neighborhood. And about 75% of the buildings on third street are faced in some sort of a wood product. Most of them were horizontal siding some shingle, some board and bat. And so we decided to use those same wall materials for this project was one item. Another item is the belt line, which you see that runs around the building at the bottom floor of windows. A very important element of the building because it does help to reduce the apparent height of the building. And you do see belt lines used a lot in that neighborhood. And I felt personally that at this position it's a nice proportion about two fists of the building the bottom two fists is shingle, and the top three fists is horizontal siding. I wanted to counterpoint it was something to give it a little bit of a little bit of a flare. So we came up with using board and bat in an artistic way to emphasize the vertical elements of the building which happens to be the plumbing stacks and the stairway stacks and that's what you see expressed on the outside. And also the other thing that we did was by using real residential scale windows. These windows are the standard three feet wide five foot high single hungs, which is not only the minimum size required for egress to get out of bedrooms, but also as one of the prevalent window sizes used in that neighborhood. So, so in the interest of really a lot of trying to make it fit into the neighborhood knowing that the building is a box. We did everything we could to make it as gentle as possible. And I think the final thing is I'll talk about the roof. You can see the building does have a generous overhang, and it's needed. If it didn't have the overhang, the building would look very boxy. The roof does put a nice cap in the building. One of the great things of course about ease it helps protect the building helps the building weather better. And another reason we did decide to go with a flat roof not only was to keep the number sinks, we have to keep the building down because of a lot of building height number one. Number two, we have to keep the building down so that we don't have to have a fire truck access down alongside the building the fire department wants to be able to get up onto the eve of the building, and they only allow a certain height. And then the third thing is we're respecting the views out of the living units for the building on four street. We did not want a huge high roof on this building that would block people's looking out. And so I believe with that. I think that pretty much everything I need to say and certainly obviously I can answer any questions or any clarifications. I had, and thank you for that presentation on the design. I did have one question with regard to the pedestrian connectivity between this property and the larger property on four street. I know we don't have parking requirements but an assertion is made that these tenants will be able to park on that adjoining property, what, what accommodation is made for that connection between the two. I didn't really see it in the plant set very. Yeah. Christina, if you could go to the site plan. It'll be colored I think it's the page that also has a site photo on it. And you'll see that the, I do show a little bit of the back of the other building, we do lead to a doorway that goes right to the garage. Yeah, perfect. So the beige right there you go, right there is the back door into the garage. And our goal is and that is ADA compliant. DG decompose granite back there. And that takes us right to the door of the building. And what is that gap, it reads like some opening or window or roll up door. Is that also part of an connection between this property and the property on board. I have to have Hugh answer that one. I believe it is a roll up door. Maybe he can verify that I'm not as familiar with the, the, that particular plan. I'm happy to comment if I am not muted. Yeah, we can hear you. We can hear you. Thank you. Okay. Thanks. So at one time, in fact, there was the notion of putting a roll up door back there. And we concluded that that was not the ideal connection, the ideal connection would be simply more heavily pedestrian oriented. And so what you have is a door entry. It'll have a security punch in the circulation through the garage is a pedestrian circulation. Given the nature of the tendencies here, I think there will be people that park in the building and walk, then through the open space behind the two buildings, but I don't believe that all tenants will. The ultimate design of what that door looks like is part of the 8888 project. But it has been my, my belief that above the door, there should be a, a architectural interesting software and other other architectural features, including lighting on either side of the door. So that it feels like an integrated part of the walkway between the two buildings that's aesthetically important. We're not showing that because that's not part of this building permit, but it will come forward to the city as part of a, as part of a, a construction drawing element revision at some point in the near future. Thank you for the clarification. And also, Mr. portrayal, can you, I think I read in the project description the intention to merge this law with the property to the north. Yes, we've actually submitted a merger application several months ago and it's, it's under process with the city. Okay, great. All right, well, yeah, appreciate that description about pedestrian connectivity. Any other information you want to share now before I offer the opportunity for any member of the public to comment. Seeing none. I'd like to offer anybody in attendance who wishes to comment, please raise your hand. Seeing none I'll close the public hearing. So, this is a great project obviously it's, it's a part of a much larger one to the north on 4th street and I think the design drawings and in response to the conceptual design review comments show that this building can fit well in the environment in that residential blended residential commercial setting. It's really excellent to see this type project go forward. I do appreciate the description about that pedestrian connection. While there is no parking requirement here. It's very likely that the tenants will have vehicles and by having access to covered parking on the adjoining property. I think it really is an amenity that your tenants will enjoy and having connectivity that provides access is important so addressing that up with some architectural feature to make it connected. I think it's a really great idea. I encourage that. I have some discussion about FAR, and I do want to turn my attention to the resolution at this point on on the first finding finding number one. There are a great set of facts there or circumstances to support the exception to the midpoint. I want to ask a project planner, Kristen a tunes if, if we could simply rely upon the, the statement in regarding exceptions as, as the basis for establishing this projects FAR compliance, and not have the additional information about combined FAR which I think would apply is kind of like a backstop. If these, if this property is being merged with the other one, effectively the FAR on both, you know, would have been combined so Yeah, I don't, I think is information we don't need but I get it so I would ask your opinion, can we eliminate that FAR combined FAR component of finding number one, and still have the basis for making that particular finding about compatibility with development standards. I was just reading it through and yes I can make that change. All right. But I do want to note I really, I really appreciate the resolution it does a great job of memorializing the pathway or the steps getting to this point. It's very helpful and findings that you do make relative to this property of this project are excellent. And I really have no other suggestions or questions regarding the resolution. The conditions of approval are appropriate. So with that I'm very pleased to say, I approve the project as as modified in finding number one, or the resolution to prove the project modifying finding number one by eliminating the last sentence I think it's the last sentence. Yes, it is one set. No, it's the last two sentences. And then we're done at what time is it 529. Wow, did I treat everybody to a drink. Virtually certainly I'm happy to participate. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. An excellent project coming forward. Thank you. It means a lot to you and I. Thank you both very much. Bye bye everybody.