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Yeah, so it's like cup, you know, you guys know cupping is right Yeah, my my now my best friend's older brother used to do that to us when we were little he's catch it Yeah, you know fart in a cup then he catch it and then he throw it in your face Yeah, yeah, that works. He did the towel. Yeah, and then he and then it just land on you. Wow. Yeah, that works Yeah, I mean enough for you to be I mean, maybe it doesn't but it was just on his ass when he farted I mean, but these are these are things that bring, you know guys together girls. It would bring him apart Well, what I was talking about. Yeah, we there's just so many things like when you get bored, especially and you know We were we're sitting there because at college we had to like go to all these chapel events So we're sitting in there like you know, sort of putting in time and and I'm like hanging out with my buddies in the back and these pews and Like we're just trying to figure out like what we can do And so he just he has this like superhuman ability to just summon like from the from the depths of his bowels like just Just like just just gassy stuff and in his growth wrote and then so he just And he gets it up to about here and then he just leans over and just like oozes it That's over this poor victim's shoulder They're just sitting there, you know mind their own business all of a sudden they catch wind just Start gagging that's funny. I messed up. I bet that move that he did yeah improved his ranking among the friends Of course. Yeah, you got a nickname after that, too Oh, I like what we tried cyber Steve because he was like he always like spoke kind of like a robot I love this guy. Yeah. Yeah, he's great. This is great. He's a funny guy. You guys ever play I think we talked about this on the pot. I told my son about this He thought it was the most brilliant game of that fart and lock the windows. No, that's great Oh, I still do that. That's my kids all the time Totally, um, yeah, you guys remember we talked about this once was it what's called baby bridges? You ever played baby bridges remind me that one So I told my son about this and he's like that is the best game ever So you're with your friends and if you start this game It doesn't end in other words once you start it it lasts for years. Just never ends So if you say a word that starts with the letter B Mm-hmm If if you don't say baby bridges real quick afterwards, then I can punch you as hard as I want. Oh, wow Yeah, so you'd say you'd say something like hey guys with the basketball And you didn't realize that you said something to be and then your friend would come from behind and just Blast you until you say yeah, oh everybody would pummel you baby bridges and then you laugh and that was it That's another one of those games that That brings guys closer together, right? So you guys ever do anything like that? I mean you do the thing with the circle and then you yeah, that's I did that with Justin We played shoulders when you're a kid you remember that that was that were you just yeah shoulders is just back and forth That was like sixth grade ish where you just lay into each other Every guy get you just get a shot. I get the shot until someone says it submits and says no more That or the atomic setup you know the atomic Everybody's everybody's done an atomic setup. That's we're gonna have to say I can't do any of this stuff anymore, right? This is okay. So you can so Well, hold on a second. Let's just let's just let's picture this for a second Here's an atomic setup for the the viewers who don't know You're you you have a new friend in the group typically It's a new friend and you bring him in and then you say something like man You're pretty strong like you know how many steps you do I do probably 50 I bet you came into one atomic setup and he'd be like no, I think I can or whatever So you say all right, let's give it a shot So what you do is you spin him around Then you have him sit on the floor and then someone goes behind him and puts a shirt or a towel over his forehead And eyes and holds it while he tries to sit up as hard as he can with much strength But what he doesn't know is that one of your friends is standing over him Pulls his pants down with his butt in front of guy's face and then the guy Let's go with the towel and smack right into his butt cracks straight ass You can't tell me that you could do that nowadays Justin. I mean you go to jail You guys are probably right Imagine if a kid told his parents he made me slam my face into his butt crack. Yeah, you'd be on Megan's law Hey, well speaking of disrupting schools. Do you guys see what's going on with Google? Google's announced what they're doing with the education. Oh, they didn't they talk about this already. What do you mean? It's are these the am I tripping are these the sort of like six-month certifications Well, it's supposed to be equivalent to a four year I don't know if it's only six months long, but it's supposed to be equivalent to a four-year degree And now it's in a high school. Is that the plan? Mm-hmm And now it's accepted by because I talked about this before so maybe it's something different It's accepted by Google as a four-year degree and by like three or four other tech companies as of right now Is that in my yes? Yes. Yes. Yeah as of right now. That's what I mean I imagine it's going to I mean it's gonna Apple has one and Facebook and apples I know they've already put their their their name in the hat also, so I know they're gonna be moving that direction, too I mean this we said this called this four or five years on the level. Yeah, this is going to disrupt education more than anything Well tech the old model for tech almost doesn't make sense because the old model as you go to You know you go to university for four years for a bachelor's Masters might take you know six or longer, but tech moves so quickly that In four years, you know how fast things change in four years Yeah, so it makes sense that these tech companies especially because it's so competitive like one of the reasons Why they pay so much in tech is that they're competing for talent because it's so fast-moving It makes sense that they would come out with a way to say look forget the four years Come take our certification course, and then you can work for us and we'll pay you yeah, you know to in order to speed things up That's your industry of choice. Yeah, the sooner you get into it the better Yeah, it moves so fast like everything is changed like what's that is it Moore's law not Moore's law? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's just like You're always behind like right when you start to learn something. It's already advanced, you know before you've Not to mention that most the stuff you got to take in college. They don't need the first two years is all general ed stuff Anyway, yeah, it's a waste of for especially especially a specialty Yeah, we've been spending so much money just on like trying to to be well-rounded and we found that that's not very effective in the workplace no the current market is and it's always moving in this direction more and more is more and more and more specialized so Here's why right? Let's say you have one person that can build a whole car So we'll go back to Ford right? This is how Ford revolution This is how he created the the assembly line you have one guy that could build a whole car versus A guy who's really fast at doing the brakes really good at doing just the dashboard really good at doing the steering wheel You create an assembly line and it produces much faster and better product because everybody specialized on one thing So it's just you know times a hundred now, right? So in tech especially you're very specialized so it doesn't make any sense to learn all this other stuff It's actually quite inefficient now. Do you think we're gonna see universities start to change like how expensive they are and what they do like Or do you think that they will start offering similar type certifications that will compete with it like if they start to lose students? Absolutely, I mean that's inevitable right there's got to be if Apple and Google which I don't know what the the number Maybe Doug can check this for me. How many people they employ I mean just those two companies alone employ so many people Not only that but think about it this way in tech Let's say you're competing let's say you're a kid at a college and you have I don't know a bachelor's in some tech related field Right and now you haven't had a job yet So four years later you're going to look for a job in tech now You're competing against a kid who had the certificate But also has now two years of experience working at Google you both go get a job at Apple He's got no degree, but two years of experience at Google. You have a degree no experience at all Who's going to get the job Google employees a hundred and thirty five thousand people. That's a lot How insane is that have you seen Apple hundred forty seven thousand? Wow Now have you seen you could try and meet every employee and you never would how weird would that be to run a company like that And know that you'll never meet everybody who works for you. That's wild. Well, so have you seen Doug? Maybe you can look up the medium or yeah the median Salary at Google and Apple it's insane. It's like 200 something. It's ridiculous Yeah, you had like Stanford was one of their main feeders for like Apple I'm just wondering like what that looks like you wonder how many of these kids are gonna end up like Doubling up with like also going to like somewhere like Stanford and like trying to get their certification course through Apple or you know like a Google situation as well I don't know because experience is weighed more than education in in most places including tech you by the way Here's the median Salary at Google median is not average by the way average would be adding them all up and dividing them Which wouldn't be fair because I'm sure the CEO makes whatever. So this is the median literally the middle $258,000 a year at Google that's insane I was actually having this conversation with Jessica because was it you Adam that sent Adam likes to do this to to annoy the shore make me feel terrible. He'll send a house in like Idaho You know, I mean, yeah, and you'd be like hey Sal look what you could buy for 1.5 million in Idaho and it's literally in a state Yeah, it's crazy. It's a it's like a Hollywood mansion estate, right? Yeah now in San Jose 1.5 million will get you a track home. Yeah, 20 200 yeah, yeah low 2000 square foot older track home track home Yeah, so we were driving through different neighborhoods because we're putting my son to sleep because he's just you know This is one way we get him to take a nap. We put him in the car and go for a drive So we're driving around and then I take her to have you guys ever been to Montezerano next to Las Vegas Yeah, so one of the most expensive places in California, right now We're looking at the houses and they look like estates and she's like how much are these costs? I'm like, I don't know 8 million no drive 15 to 20. Yeah, okay So 15 to 20 million. Yeah, so the I looked Saratoga the like Saratoga area Which and you're talking about it even higher-end area in Saratoga that though like an old 50-year-old house that is less than 2,000 square feet you're talking about 2 million starting point is 2 million So if you have an estate you're talking about like the like, you know a thousand square feet. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're talking 15 to really so we're driving through and I'm telling her that and then I show her the one for you show me from Idaho And she's like what that and I'm like, here's a deal in in the Bay Area You have a little bit of houses and then you have a bunch of people that work for these tech companies That just become millionaires. Yeah, and so they just have so much money that it does plates everything It inflates the hell out of everything. Yeah, well, what's crazy in it for us Well, what's crazy is when you okay, so you use that example right 15 20 million dollars at a place like that And where I showed you which is an eagle which is right outside of Boise, Idaho gorgeous You could get a you could fly a private jet every week to work I'm serious I'm serious though, right you get a you if you have owned a 15 to 20 million dollar mansion in, California Do the math on what the property tax right so imagine you even pay it off the property taxes alone are ridiculous Plus if you have a mortgage on it, which is even crazier So the amount of money you're spending you could buy the house over there outright the property taxes I had a lunch every day with you could you could yes, and it's only an hour flight care about money to stay here Yeah, it just it's just it's just crazy to me. Yeah, it's absolutely crazy. So I was explaining this turn She's like what I mean, I have you know a family member who got a job at zoom I think I don't know a couple years ago And she because zoom has now taken off and she has stock option. So it's like she's only been working there for a couple years Yeah, she's on pay now a millionaire on paper. Yeah, because of the stock and well There's been some pretty cool and here's the thing. There's good and bad with technology like there's I was watching this show That was like talking about finding a lot of these missing children and like how technology has advanced to basically like they found like hundreds of thousands of more Cases of missing children because of this technology where they're able to render like as they the age You know that they take that the mom or or the dad or whoever, you know If it's a boy or girl and then they kind of like match them to their You know their age like from their photos and then they start to kind of like, you know Build what they would look like today And so it's like a lot more cases have been found because they've they've been pretty accurate is now Is that common is it common that a kid that goes missing is found four or five six years later even even like 20 years later What? Yeah, it's like crazy stuff. Oh my god. I can't even imagine what the parent would go through right? I think your kids gone forever and they still have hope and it's just these crazy stores It's totally a heart heartwarming kind of a show. I forget the name of it, which is unfortunate What's it on Netflix or what's it on is on Netflix? So speaking of CGI rendering or whatever. Did you guys I sent it to the group? Did you guys see the parent one? No, no someone went through Sculptures and paintings of ancient Roman leaders and then made it a CGI image of them So you can kind of see what they really would look like. Oh, no, what Justin looks just like Emperor Nero Damn it, bro exactly the tyrant Oh, I'm gonna make sure Andrew puts it in the Just like Justin. It's hilarious. You know what like I look like a lot of people Sends me like these actors like I can't even tell you guys how many DMs I get from like all these like, you know knockoff me's Yeah, hey, I watched it. I watched this show this week We can any of you guys seen I care a lot on Netflix yet. No, it's trending in the top 10 I think it's like number one or number two right now really good So any time there's like a plot that like I haven't seen and and it was well done actors good great storyline So and it made me go afterwards like oh shit. I wonder how often this actually happens So it's like this the the main character. She is a I don't know what you call her her title care specialist with like a Law degree and basically when some people get really old like and they can't take care of themselves I have dementia and they don't have family members The court will appoint them like a care specialist to now take care of their estate and then make those decisions because they They've been deemed medically they can't on their own So this happens and this happens when people don't and so there's in these companies that that help these people quote-unquote Right that and are supposed to you know to handle their estate and whatever insurance stuff and put them in a home if they need to and Potentially sell off. So take care of them. Yes. And the whole thing is about this girl. That's just that she's a con artist I mean that's what she I mean that would be prime for that right and that so that it's a I don't want to ruin the show It's a really good show on what what what could potentially happen But my I'd never even thought about that was a thing But think about how much there is room for somebody to take advantage of that that demographic of people, right? Somebody who's 80 years old. They don't have any kids that they're they're gonna take their inheritance They've had insurance forever. They made decent money they have a house or two and who's gonna take care of all that stuff after they pass on and This girl goes in and she finds it and she has a deal with the You know the at whatever you call the aftercare homes, what are they called again the other name of them right now that that Yeah, like a retirement home the doctor. She cuts them all up Yeah, and then the doctor who would say that she has dementia and whatever. Oh Yeah, so yeah, so she's back to warn everybody so they're they're getting like a premium rate She's charging a premium rate for her service And then the and then the doctor's getting a kickback for saying that she needs assistance and help and so without ruining the whole show The it's about her doing this to a lady and she fuck with that evil dude. Yeah Yeah, you know, they're the number one target for con artists. Yes the elderly Yeah, there's so many of those like phone scams and everything like actually work Because of like elderly homes that they get a hold of and you know, especially the political stuff Like they get them all charged up about like whatever the hell, you know Like we'll get them fired up and then have them send money to their governor or politician and it just goes right This I had a client who was in his 70s and he He got a call from Microsoft. That's what I thought, right? Oh, we need to update your computer We need to fix this and that are you noticing any problems? And of course, she's like, oh, yeah I noticed it's a little slower. You know, everybody's gonna notice that so he gave the guy Control of his computer wirelessly, you know, they can get your desktop or whatever and just just emptied everything took money Charged his credit cards took all of his passwords was buying things on Amazon. He was like, what do I I can't what do I do? And it was crazy. Yeah, but all because he believed the guy was from Microsoft and helped him out They target older people all the time I told him like anybody call you over the phone for anything like that. There's a special place in hell for those That's all I could think about when I was watching this is like, oh, what a fucking evil person to do that You know, I just started watching that I think you guys were talking about a while ago was Queen's Gambit Oh, you just now see I just now started watching. Oh really good really good Yeah, I mean brilliantly made the girl that plays the the main part She does such a good job playing that character and making it believable and whatnot really really good But I guess that world of chess is pretty insane. I had no idea. Oh, yeah I had no idea that was that wasn't your son hardcore into it or not. He was but not like that level Oh, yeah I did know that the Soviets that there was a big deal between the Soviets and the US in Competition but the Soviets were dominant because obviously they were paid by the state since they were kids to become, you know, the best in the world or whatever Yeah, yeah crazy. I mean, it's like it the the levels right that are in it. It's crazy Like I played chess as a kid, but I'm not like that like the ability to see so many moves ahead Yeah, I mean, I think that translated into translates into other parts of intelligence and in life I think that's why it's you know, I think it was in the I don't know if it was in the 80s or 90s when Tech, you know people computer engineers were finally able to create a program that was able to beat The best chess masters in the world. So Watson, right? Yeah, I don't know if I think Watson for sure But before that it was actually in the I want to say in the 80s or 90s Before that they would try to make programs that would win and the masters would keep winning And then they got to the point where no master could beat a computer at all and I remember I don't remember what happened It was it was not that it was a while ago. Well, isn't there I forget what the didn't go in Queens gamma They talk about how many total moves there potentially are it's like an infinite number. Yeah, yeah I remember that that statistic I brought it was like there's more chess moves than there are molecules in the universe Yeah, something crazy. Oh my gosh. Okay speaking of crazy numbers So scientists I'm gonna pull it up because this number it was just made no sense to me Scientists have just estimated the speed at which the universe is expanding Okay, what yeah, so you're ready for this 73 kilometers per second per mega parsic Do you know what a mega parsic is? 3.2 million light years. Wow. So 73 That's a real metric. Yes. How do we cuz they're saying that it's so it's 70 growing at that rate Yes, 73 kilometers per second per 3.26 million light years. I feel like it's like we're a bunch of scientists that get really high and they just throw some random Everybody like come on. How do you prove that? How do you prove that I did the Kessel run and how many parsecs? I forget that was like a Han Solo quote It was I didn't know that was a real metric one parsec hilarious a parsec is 3 million light years So a mega is million okay, or whatever. I mean, how do they even measure that? They do they have ways of doing it. Oh my god with math Every time I say some shit like that. I was always like how do they know that? It's impossible it's you know, it's impossible to fact-check you can't fact-check it That's we just kind of they could just tell us. Yes. That's what they tell us. There's dark matter. They've never seen it Yeah, dude never seen a black hole either. They just like, you know blindly believe I don't know if it's a conspiracy as much as it is like, okay. How do you know that like come on? Because you you just we mathematically just keep compounding and go like oh, it's probably no actually don't know I have no idea how they would know but I do know that they're pretty good at estimating speeds and stuff like that Well, it's expanding faster and faster and this is what blow this is what blows them away This is why they think there's things like I mean article Now here's the thing though in order to prove that it's expanding wouldn't we have to be able to measure to the end of it I think that they the way that they measure is the distance between stars and they can measure the brightness of the stars Something like that and they can measure that and show that the star the stars are separating at a particular speed I think and again a theory right a theory that because the stars are separating that must mean the universe is expanding Yeah, I don't know I bet you if you looked it up. We still wouldn't know How do they measure the speed of the universe? That's why I don't I'm not buying it. I don't know. I didn't even go past the Were you the one of you guys good at math and I know I was Geometry is where I like totally peaked really. I was done. I was good, but I you know unfortunate. I didn't keep you know Yeah, here. Yeah, here's an example of when you when you have so you could have been an Olympic swimmer and a math genius I don't know about that. Just decided I've probably been pretty good. I do bodybuilding Average in everything I'd probably been pretty average at that too. So yeah, but I you know It's funny right when you meet it when you have a teacher that really Pushes you in a direction to you know get better. I just didn't have that and it's effective. Yeah, like so I think it's really funny So you guys know like my grammar is terrible my spellings terrible But yet I was in advanced English in high school But the reason why that was was I had a teacher who believed in me and kept pushing me in that direction Yeah, but your communication skills were very high So she saw that right she saw that my ability to put like my thoughts on paper Although it was scrambled and grammatically all messed up was good, right? And I also had a good discussion in class. So she loved that so she pushed me in that direction Even though I would consider that an area where I'm weak at math. I had strengths in it. I finished it early I didn't have to do any more of it in school And so I didn't and I didn't have a math teacher that connected with me In fact, I always got in trouble in math because I was goofing off because it was easy for me So I didn't continue to push or go beyond that. So I'm good or a decent I was that I just didn't like it Same here. I love science. I was good at science. See, I'm I'm drawn a math I'm drawn a math because it's it's absolute. There's that's what my son says. Yeah. Yeah, everything else is like you are debatable Yeah, that's what my son says. He's a he's a math wizard and he Coasts in math. He just kind of does what you know what he needs to you know get a B if he wants or whatever And I know this because he'll he's little shit He'll like not turn something in his grade will go down and then I'll get on him He'd be like, all right, don't worry. I'll yes, yes. Yeah, and then he does it That's how I was goofing off in class all the time Like the teacher I was always getting in trouble because I was distracting other kids because it came easy to me and again Instead of having a teacher that saw that and then pushed that in me I was constantly getting in trouble and then when I was done I'm like I'm out the teachers have a huge impact Yeah on a huge potential impact teachers can make a student think that they don't like a Subject or they suck at it or they'll make the student think that it's a subject that they enjoy I had a history teacher. I love history. It's one of my favorite things I had a history teacher in eighth grade that just made me despise it because all he would do is he'd go up to the Front of the class. He was the laziest fucking teacher of all time He'd go up to the front of class. He'd open the book and he'd read the book. Yeah, that's all he would do He'd sit there and read English teacher. That was the one where I got in trouble because we just have to read You know Romeo and Juliet and we'd have to read these Shakespearean plays And I just get so bored that like finally I convinced her to let us all read it And so then I would add accent to it, you know, and I would like horse you do You know, I would be like the super effeminate flaming guy And then kick me out and I got to go to the principal's office and I'm just like dude I'm trying to spice it up here. Yeah, you know, this is boring. Yeah, you got to have fun, dude Yeah, you don't have fun You know when this is why when kids are like into something like you ever ask a kid about like Pokemon or whatever something they're into They know everything about it. It's because they're interested. This is why those there's that movement Like the homeschool movement. There's a there's a movement within the homeschool movement I think they call it unschooling where it's like child-led and that what they say is is exactly that Watch the kid see what they're fascinated with they find their passion and then you and then you use that in a way So for example, I had a client who did this and actually turned out their kid turned out quite well And I said well, what do you do if they don't like like math and you go and they said well Let's say your kid loves cooking a lot. Well, then you have math and cooking. Oh, what if they love building something? Yeah, what if they love exactly building or cars? There's math and that kind of stuff Right, so it's in there, but you use what the kid is really interested in makes a lot of sense That's what Ben Greenfield is doing with his kids, right? Yeah, I mean, I think he's had a lot I mean they get the run in their own business and podcast so I know they're doing just fine. I know it's pretty cool Hey, I did I tell you guys about the study that came out on past steroid users. Did I bring that one up already on a podcast? About them keeping the gains or what? No, no, no, Doug. Yeah, you did talk about it about Lifelong detriments of using steroids. Yeah, so more stuff is coming out. I guess that's a big thing They're finding more and more studies that your your hormone levels are likely permanently effective Do we need a study for that? I know, you know, I feel like that's another one We talked before about this like we do we study some things Especially be introduced it early right like in your formative years where like you're at a already high like testosterone Then you add exogenous testosterone to take over. It's like, you know, I know Well, I think that's that's the challenge that we had with the last would you when you interviewed John Romano, right? He gave that crazy, you know dosage for somebody who's young and I think that's you're at that age You're just basically if you're gonna do that you're committing to yeah, but and I remember as a kid I did that I knew that was I that crossed my mind I was aware that if I moved into this and I tried this I may be potentially doing this for the rest of my life And I accepted that, you know, and I think that's what you just have to do if you're going to go down that road You better be okay with knowing that you may be having to take testosterone for the rest of your life Yeah. All right. So here's some something else that's kind of interesting. So scientists Want to build a an arc and send it to the moon essentially They're calling it the lunar arc and they're gonna jam pack it with 6.7 million genetic samples including sperm and eggs just in case our earth blows out Yeah, just in case some shit happens to us and or and humans, you know Species dies off or whatever sure on the moon will be all the genetic stuff that you need to start the human species again They won't start there. They'll do it in Mars to you watch. Yeah, probably. Yeah I mean, it's again, we're starting to think interstellar now, which is interesting Like we're starting to move out all these like private businesses going into the space race like a lot of Momentum is is getting into like, you know even visiting I guess there's a space hotel now that is gonna open up in a few years That's doing that who's doing that? I thought it was is is Elon doing that? I'm not sure if I think it on or it's like virgin or it's blue origin which is Amazon, you know that that guy's is that the name of theirs blue origin or origin space X and then what is And then virgin what's virgin? It's something else. So it's virgin galactic. That's a lot. That's right. Voyager station It's gonna be commercial space hotel 2027. Who's doing it? Let's see plan by orbital orbital assembly corporation a construction company run by John Blin cow. Ah bling cow. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Yeah, click on the images I want to see what the rooms are gonna look like and all stuff like if it sucks Yeah, you don't even get to really like interact with any of the other pods I don't think and it's like a pod that you know is just for that Person, yeah, let's see scroll down. Oh, so it looks like a big Ferris wheel. Look at that. Yeah Oh, that's kind of I mean so then maybe you could Justin Maybe you'll be able to go like a hotel where you go down to like a lounge area Oh, look at that basketball there Well, what are the hoops gonna be like, you know 80 feet tall or how's that gonna work? Serious dunks. Yeah, you know they have a gym Yeah, I could I could bench press the thousand pounds for a hundred Accidentally, so I mean I have this is more your guys's you know wheelhouse here So how long would it be to get to that right? So as a based off of how fast it is to get a get out into space How long would it take how long is the flight? Yeah, I don't think it's that long at all I think it's probably I don't think it's gonna be that long at all I feel like the flight to get there's gonna be rough though I'm not a big guy on planes. Anyway, I don't like turbulence I don't know how the g-forces to get you to move upward like that That's how I get though So you guys don't think it'll be long to get there at all like you meet long as far as hours or as in days Like is it no hours hours? Yeah, I think it's not gonna be I think it would probably be faster to get there Then it would to fly to like Europe. That's what I think. Oh, wow really. Yeah, and I could be totally wrong by the way How long yeah, cuz like just getting out of the atmosphere doesn't really take that long. Yeah, let's find out Let's see. Well, the trip is 12 days Let's see the experience of the life the first four months of travel $80,000 deposits. They're already sold out $80,000 deposits and then the and then the rest of it is what I say nine million dollars Holy shit. Okay, so wait wait three at station three hours and 48 minutes after liftoff. Yeah Yeah, so it'll be like a three-hour flight. Wow, and then you're in space Wow Yeah, what if you're on what if you're on this thing like let's say you're on there So that okay, yeah, so you're on the space station. Yeah, you're there with your girl Right, and you're looking at your girl cuz they're not gonna be in the club, right? Oh, he's got do it in space Oh, that's true. That's the first thing you think of Right in the mile-high club. This is this what happens that what happens when you finish What if you're up there, right and you're looking out the window Man, look how beautiful earth is and and then a nuclear war breaks out and you see it from from space like we're gonna stay up here What do we do now? Well, you'd be sure glad you're there or not down there then but no But what do you do now? You're stuck in space food supplies will last another week Oh, yeah, but no, well, you think they gotta have more than that on there. Come on Yeah, yeah, they could be back to have more and what kind of food are you gonna have? What are they shipping up there? Can't be fresh just bunch of tang Bro, it's only three it's only three and a half hours away. You know I'm saying you could get You can eat in Las Vegas you can eat a fresh fish out of the Mediterranean the same day, bro That's true. So don't give it long. Yeah, but I wonder how much that fish would cost in space It's all real Plasma TVs were 20 grand a shot just 15 years ago. You know I'm saying come MRE easy. That's all They were talking about doing a space elevator at one point Have you heard about this where they build a structure that literally connects to a space station a How does it is it like some kind of electromagnetism or something that shoots it up and down or I have no idea I mean probably yeah, right? It's a rope. Yeah Something yeah, it's crazy to think that we're heading that that in our lifetime. We're gonna see this stuff Oh, that's in yeah, it's 20 27. I wonder if that's what it'll bring down housing prices in San Jose finally Open so many people want to go there more than the California. Hopefully So what happens what happens if you throw something outside the window is to hit earth? I get probably You don't think so Are these all these potential ideas right here? Yeah, you know be cool because did you watch that movie? I think it was Elysium or whatever with Matt Damon and oh god long time ago Yeah, so like there was the whole like the earth became sort of more of a wasteland and then there was this utopia Oh, yeah kind of space station that was outside the atmosphere up there Like I wonder if they're gonna eventually try and build something cooler with like golf courses and all kinds of stuff earth sucks Yeah, I think you know, I think you know where you guys out with this Like I think it would be cool to go check out and experience But it's like I would never want to live there in space. Yeah, no way Yeah, you guys say that but I bet you there's a lot of people that would want to live in space Yeah, yeah, how are you gonna do up there? Yeah? Well, there's I mean basketball obviously Just showed that I'm sure they're gonna have a lot of stuff still dude. It's not good Like it's not conducive for like lifeforms. Well, I agree We're supposed we evolve but I guarantee you if that many people sold out on 80,000 It's like a status thing, you know How many people you think will be returning I bet you know one's gonna be like I'm doing that over here like I did it I'm done. I'm never gonna do that. Yeah, you think so of course. I don't know dude I don't know. There's a lot of people that hate Earth dude I'm sure there's a lot of people that would like to do that. Just to say they did Earth I'm gonna go to space go away real quick because didn't now that the big problem with that is how they how they solve like You just starting to atrophy have they solved that yet? Like where they need it where they If you stay up there for a while, yeah, it doesn't even take that long I know in fact the the guy who stayed the longest at the space station when he came back down to earth His body wasn't right for I think six months or a year because our bodies evolve with gravity and it literally it fucks up everything You're your circulation Yeah, his eyesight the way his brain operated and he was he went through hell for life It was like six months. Yeah to rehab his body and get it back to normal. Oh, yeah, it's debilitating. Yeah It just totally messes you up. Yeah, that's an extreme. So you gotta think there's some Afterfects from just just like a week. Yeah, I mean it's got to be a spectrum, right? If staying that long fucks you up that bad even probably a week or two up there is probably gonna work out every day or something like that Otherwise you're fine. I mean my body atrophies might go to Mexico. That's well Well, think about that like in you know in terms of liability if you're the company like shooting just these average people up there Like like astronauts train rigorously like like I don't know what their protocol is like how many months or whatever and like Years that they train to like, you know being in those La pools and everything and like trying to like go through all these obstacles and you're right I bet you when you pay your deposit and then you pay the fee what's included in that is training You would hope so it's not gonna be like a plane like you just get on and go if you you'd have to be able to fail People if they can't qualify because like you don't want that, you know sending somebody up and then they have like serious health Now here's a question. What are the laws because you're not in a country. You're in space Yeah, is there a set of law there probably is there's an international set of laws in space You know I'm saying like what if you commit a crime? What if you commit a crime right you're committed crime in space? Where do you get tried? Somebody's gonna do it dude. It's gonna get weird Well, I'm sure you I'm sure automatically you fall into the laws of wherever that business is from right? So if you're taking space X and it's from the US, I'm pretty sure they have an international set of laws on in space You know I mean where these are the laws that you can't I don't know. I'd be got Doug's looking get up right now Spaceballs. Yes. Yeah, it's a space law. They're space law. It's black-and-white photo. Is it that old? What does it say Doug? I can't you got space force now. So, you know, it's like the the space police Yeah, they're the United Nations sets some laws regarding space. So Interesting. I wonder what those laws are you can't advertise like coke Unusa United Nations, I don't know what the rest stands for something a space something. Yeah, so rules and regulations of international Organizations, sorry, but you probably can't even smoke weed up there Adam. That's right. Yeah You're gonna want to get high when you're high, you know, I mean Hey, what flavor is that one that you have that that you have vintage cola. So that's the one you always have No, so I the root beer is my favorite root root beer is my favorite and then when we run out Which I think we're out of that then vintage cola and then maybe the strawberry vanilla. Mm-hmm. Those are my my three favorite So that so there was a 30 calorie was it 30 or 60 calories? No, no, no, it's only it's 35 35 and then only two grams of sugar in it carbs or 12 Obviously, no fat. So it's actually high in fiber. Yeah. Yeah, so it's high in fiber. It's you know It's funny. I got a DM from someone and they're like are you sure this is like good for my gut because it's soda Tastes like soda. Yeah, like it's actually made as a gut drink first and then second It says a flavorful, you know alternative. It's been great because it's combined complete I you know, they're everywhere now. I see my whole foods. I know I know. Yeah, they've blown they've blown up It's been yeah, what do they call it because they don't call it a soda They call it something else not like an elixir, but they call it something else like Sparkling tonic sparkling tonic. Yeah. Oh, why I don't know That's just a different category cuz it's not technically so yeah, so I'm sure it tastes like soda, but it's not It's I mean, I love these things. I like all the the What are they called? I don't know what you call them like the kids kind of flavors like the cream soda and you know They have the strawberry one. Yeah, they had the strawberry vanilla, which I would say is my top three for sure And then the vintage cola and the root beer is the best I think you know they killed it on root when I was a kid if I got I never I rarely ever drank soda But if I did I always went for the like the weird color You know stuff like the like the like the red or purple stuff. Yeah Purple drink. Yeah Sunny D commercials are always like you want sunny D or the purple purple stuff now I know you're not one purple stuff. You were never like a big you're not a big soda drinker No, I know I didn't I didn't grow up having a lot of it What about you Justin like I know I've admitted on the show that I was like I was a major soda drinker than I was a major Diet Coke drinkers So this has been like life changing for me to be able to have an alternative that actually tastes Like that. Yeah on and off. I mean I I get cravings for it every now and then so it's nice to have that as an alternative But I if I was gonna drink anything it would be like Sprite or something with like a lunch But my brother and my dad were like, I don't know I think I got grossed out because they they used to drink the big gulp super big gulps and everything before we go To church or whatever and like I was just like and isn't that like 200 grams? It's so much sugar and like now they're paying all the prices for for doing that You know and like we didn't know any better back then it was all just like oh it's soda. It's fine Yeah, I drank that stuff as a kid for sure. I'm surprised. I don't have diabetes. Yeah as a kid I was how long would it last you up just a day. No, no great kidding me in like an hour a couple hours Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. No, we used to suck those things down like water for sure How many grams of sugar is in that and that well, I mean there's so many levels now I remember I took that picture when we first started the podcast We were we were traveling somewhere remember and we stopped at a gas station and they had the they now have gallon Drinks that are that are like big gulps. It's like like a big handle No, no go down and it says people also ask is it however you ask the question was wrong. It's click on that one right there And it'll give you a sense of Lee enormous no not a large coke. Yeah, these are all small dude. These aren't yeah 108 grams of sugar and a big gulp and that's just a big goal They have super big gulp. They have like extreme super big gulp. They have like there's like 10 levels to this shit Yeah, and they were addicted to cherry coke. So that was their thing Yeah, I would just you know have a little bit I can't do that You know, what was that drink back in the day the creatine one and it had hella sugar in it It was it was a muscle tech cell tech. Yeah. Yeah was it 75 grams of sugar Yeah, remember, you know, it's funny it would make me nauseous as fuck when I drank I thought it was like we need to spike You're insulin to get the creatine in your body. Yeah, and then they tell you then they tell you to load too for like the first week So you're doing tour service. Yeah. Yeah, so and I was I thought it was so magical because I put weight on hallways Some of it's like yeah, I'm a car. Yeah sugar. Yeah, hello. Carb sugar and then water wait for sure the fruit punch one I was like down. I thought it was I mean think about it from their point They're very brilliant because you got to think that you're you're you're demographic of people that are buying that are a bunch of Skinny skinny go up. Yes skinny boys that are insecure about being skinny I want to get bigger and put size on and yeah, you just load them up with the you know 700 calories of sugar plus the creatine in addition to this is what a great example of the supplement industry just being Stupid like they're like, oh, you know if you increase insulin it should shuttle more creatine into your body And so what was their next step? Let's give you 75 grams of dextrose with a five You know grams serving of creatine that'll that'll do it. Yeah, geez. I mean perfect. It's kind of brilliant Now that messed me I said the weight gainers I had had a lot of would have a lot of dextrose I remember which one I had it was like 150 grand the weight gainers never worked for me because it went right through me Almost every weight gainer. Yeah, almost every what although I still did it anyways as a kid, you know, because I didn't register for me I was like, oh, I just does this part of the process the one that I had in regular rotation was Weeder and it was mega mass 4,000 so they had mega mass 2,000 then they came out mega mass 4,000 But what they did is they just doubled the servings was the same damn formula two thousands better Yeah, and it was it was a it was a bucket like this big and then the scoop was like that was like that big And you have to put four scoops for a serving. I was like, oh well go to the beach. Yeah. Oh, this is good It's oh five servings in this whole bucket. Okay. Here we go Hey, I hope you're enjoying the podcast real quick before we get to the questions Head over to mind pump free calm and check out all of our free guides We have guides that can teach you how to build your arms better get a better squat Get a flatter midsection burn more body fat even become a better personal trainer and more all at mind pump free calm that's it enjoy the rest of the show First question is from just lean pre-add If you eat in a calorie deficit all week and then have a cheat meal Will you gain fat cells and is that considered yo-yo dieting? Okay? So yo-yo dieting is more of a extreme restriction restriction and then kind of an extreme bulk Yo-yo dieting would refer more to just to kind of dysfunctional eating Now cheat meals can fall in that category and I hate using that term cheat meal because it encourages This kind of on the wagon off the wagon mentality which tends to turn into dysfunctional eating so what I tend to do is I tell to tell I tend to tell people you're gonna be on this deficit And then once a week, we're gonna have you in a surplus rather than saying it's a cheat meal Now the science on this actually supports the metabolism boosting effects and the muscle preserving effects of doing this in fact there was one study where they compared people who were on a continual deficit to people who were on a deficit and with some Intermittent periods where they would eat more calories and they found that jumping the calories up here and there actually resulted in more fat loss and Less muscle loss bodybuilders have known this for a long time And I have seen this with people that I've worked with now that being said This is in a controlled environment and a controlled amount of surplus which I think more to the point of this question is What I think how people are using it now where it's like, oh, I'm in this I follow my diet You know six days a week and I'm in this calorie deficit say it's a few hundred a day and then Sundays I can eat whatever I want, you know, and then and I think it's it's turned into this thing where you know I'm not counting. I'm off. I followed this deficit all week So I'll eat like an asshole eat whatever I want, you know, and so and and to that Yes, you could yes I mean we talked about this with Lane Norton when Lane came in and we talked about how you could add fat cells I don't think a cheat meal would do it a cheat day Definitely could I mean I know a lot of competitors that post show would consume 20,000 plus calories in a day, you know, you do that Yeah, you do that and it's not that it's actually not that insane when you've been deprived for that that long And if you just add a bunch of garbage, yeah And you eat a bunch of garbage like you are you just you just and so doing that absolutely could do that So I might take longer than a day though. Really you think it would happen in just one day I don't know. I think the studies they did were like I mean they're in such extremes that like I think yeah There's a post possibility that could happen in that situation Well, it's average person not so much right It's gotta it's gotta be on a spectrum right how how much was the deficit going into it So how depleted because I think your body's gonna take a lot of those calories originally and fill up all your glycogen stores first Right, and then fill your gas tank up and then whatever over spills ends up getting stored office body fat so it's really there's a big spectrum there and you know, I think The the more you get crazy with that cheat day the more you're flirting with that in the spectrum Yeah, the theory is that the the body tries to figure out ways or adapt to capture all this extra energy Because your fat cells they grow right so that's how you get fatter But when you're when you're when the deficit is super low, and then the surplus is extreme your body Gets the signal that says we need to become more Reserve all of this yeah We need to get more efficient at storing all these extra calories not just because we got all these extra calories But rather because we were in such a deficit for so long So we don't know if we're gonna go back in that extreme deficit. Yeah, and so it actually adds Fat cells not just makes them larger, but adds fat cells. This is why I think Competitors because you hear competitors talk about this where they over the years lose their sharpness or they think oh I can't look as sharp as I used to even though I do the same exact diet or whatever It might be because they're adding fat cells to their body And I don't think there's a way to take fat cells away once you add them No, you can't you can shrink them, but you can't get rid of right So that's and I agree with you so that was what I saw with my peers When we were competing is that you know when you were in the quote-unquote bulk season Everything goes I mean you if as long as you're training and you know your thought was I'm gonna put on as much weight as I can And with that theory you're going to add fat cells Which is only going to make it more difficult when you lean out for a show again The next time and so you would see these competitors where they would you know, they had this formula down Oh, I know my body type. I know what I need to be training. Oh, I know what my diet needs to look like I know what my cardio regimen needs to look like they would apply that formula to the next show And it would end up getting more difficult more difficult for them to achieve that same look that they had before And they'd have to go to new extremes to get to that place again So and I absolutely would attribute it to exactly this point is that what happens when they Over-consume like that even someone like that's at the competitive level. They're adding fat cells So even not at the competitive level just having like that whole cheat meal Type of mentality isn't as you know, it's not an effective strategy It's not something like if we're still just really fixated on you know, cravings and certain things that You know, your entire week is devoted around like being able to consume and it promotes that sort of binge day where like if there's no like You know, if you're trying to put all these parameters around that You know, that's that's one of those things you're going to be fighting that constantly It's a terrible idea. Most people have a really bad relationship with food Or they don't or they have no relationship with food. They don't really understand it whatsoever And it'd be no different than having somebody who is an alcoholic encouraging them. Hey one day. We're gonna get fucked up Yeah, exactly, but you'll be fine. Don't worry the next day. We'll get right back to things It's like you're flirting with dangerous places for a lot of people And I think that yeah one cheat day a cheat meal or whatever you want to call it It's not going to harm somebody but it's what the behaviors that it promotes and then the likelihood Of what happens afterwards because if you're going to fall off the wagon or you're going to stop doing your diet It normally happens after that. It's like, oh you had that day Where that happens and then another day lines up the floodgates open up and boom, right Next question is from a n p 10 34 What's the best at home vastus medialis exercise? Okay, so the vastus medialis is the part by something It's the part of the quadricep that is on the inside part of the leg They call it the teardrop in bodybuilding or physique competitions And it's a desirable part of the quad to develop because it it causes it gives you better aesthetics Just like they'll talk about the outer sweep. Well, they'll also talk about that that teardrop part of the quad Now here's the thing with the quadricep the attachment of the different heads of the quad or pretty close to each other So trying to develop one over others It's kind of difficult now you can do this But generally speaking for most people overall just build your legs if you just build your legs You'll get a pretty balanced look to your quads But if you're somebody who's advanced you've got great quads already And you want to activate that part of the quad a little bit more Or let's say you're a bodybuilder a competitor and you want to try and you know shape up your legs or give yourself better aesthetics There's some ways you can Activate that part of the quad a little bit more one way is to you know Do leg extensions with the feet turned out believe it or not that actually does activate that part of the quad a little bit more You're asking about at home Studies show that single leg exercises are really really good For for for doing this because of the stabilization that's Required so like step ups single leg squats and split stance exercises like Bulgarian split stand that developed that for the most for me Is that where you notice? Yeah, I notice that personally the most from that for sure And are you are you right externally rotating not internally rotating internally? They'll do more of the outer externally will do more Okay, you're right. Yeah, I'm like that seems backwards to me right now But no the sink all the single leg exercises lunges Bulgarian split squat and step ups are the three that in fact I think I did a post Like a long time ago and it's actually a picture of that I think my buddy Brendan was commenting on that and it was when I started including step ups step up to a balance What I was doing back then and those exercises I felt developed the most I think Messing with the foot possession foot position on things like leg extensions, which you see really common I think that's less effective what with it is I mean if you're like if you got like really big muscular legs and you're a bodybuilder and you're hyper responsive Maybe yeah, but the average person you're better off just focusing on building Yeah, the whole leg not to mention what will also make that look more pronounced is actually leaning out Of course. Yeah, so a lot of times that we we try and develop areas and we're so focused on growing or a particular Part of a muscle to look a certain way And man you want you want a muscle to be revealed or look impressive Like one of the best things you can do is actually just lean out There's many times where a body part on me looks way bigger just because i'm super lean And then there's times when it's the biggest it's ever been but because of higher body fat percentage It doesn't look as pronounced. Yeah one way that I tend to see and feel Development there is the sissy squat that deep stretch at the bottom And then when I come up, I really squeeze my caught my quads really really hard And I and I do And I do notice I get development in the middle. I thought he was going there too. Yeah, my bad. I was getting bored with this conversation I've never literally ever heard somebody ask to develop this muscle in my life You're all performance You're like that car with six head of horsepower that's like got rust on it looks Next question is from captain matah Is it better to squat lighter weight asked to grass versus heavier weight at 90 degrees? Oh boy depends who we're talking to generally speaking by the way This is considering you have good mechanics good form and good stability. Okay somebody who has doesn't have the uh Doesn't have good or sufficient stability or mobility Squatting ass to grass is not a good idea. You want to work your way to that with your stability and your mobility But all things being equal if we're talking to the average person who wants to develop Overall strength functionality and well developed legs Full full range of motion is typically better now for some athletes It's actually better sometimes to do shorter range of motion even higher than 90 degrees In fact, you'll see basketball players oftentimes will do they won't even go down to 90 they'll do They'll stop, you know, like a you know halfway down To 90 and work on that range of motion because it contributes more to their That's the only time I see value in that is if it's very sport specific Everybody else should be working towards the deeper squad. Even if you can't do it And I agree. I wouldn't recommend going right away and then forcing yourself to do it You should work on your hip and ankle mobility, which is normally the limiting factors That won't allow somebody to get that deep in a squat So I think that for the average population that just wants to build muscle lose body fat be healthy Those people I think should all be working towards the you know Astagrass type of squat and if they can't working on the mobility get strong and functional And I mean what promotes better positions like everyday positions where you're going to be down in You're going to be sitting in in a squat more. It's going to be lower than 90 degrees And so, you know to be able to navigate in that position and have strength in that Also, it's going to help to promote more stability around, you know, the hips and the joint and so that way, you know You're going to alleviate a lot of pain that's going to come up in the future And so, you know, there's a lot of things to consider with that But yeah, the only other instance I would say like 90 degrees as if it's a performance driven pursuit It was life changing for me to to work towards this I mean those that have been listening for a long time know this about my journey But when I was competing on stage and you know looked the best I've ever looked I had terrible squat mobility. I mean I couldn't I couldn't break 90 And then after competing spent a really long time probably a couple of years a really focused on it And the benefits of that for me have been crazy. Like I my hip and back pain is like gone Yeah, you used to get back pain all the time all the time Yeah, and then that's what kept me from doing it so much was it was just part of the process It was like if I'm squatting I'm be ready for my back to be on fire So, you know work and instead of caring about the weight and I could squat decent weight back then But now I I see one I see more development with less weight So I can be squatting less weight and see my legs as developed and then eliminating all the pain and that in itself I think I think for most people that should be a good goal or direction Yeah, the other people that I would say wouldn't need to train with such a low squat would be a power lifter Uh, you baby power lifters are very specific again. It's performance based, right? If you're with for a power lifter you want to squat as low as as required In order to get clearance and then get strong there because Getting stronger going any lower might not really give you any particular value in your competition But across the board your goal should be to get to that point And if you have the stability and mobility To do it then train that way it's then that's true for every body part every single body part every single exercise The full range of motion performed safely with good stability is going to be superior generally speaking than a shorter range of motion Next question is from mag all phases Fitness, what are some tips for building a team of trainers? Oh, man. I like to I love this question You know, I I'll tell you the mistake I made when I first started It managing trainers and then how I evolved The mistake I made early on was looking at the most Try to get the most educated. Yes. Yes. So like someone would come to me Oh, I have a master's in sports medicine or I have a bachelor's and you know, whatever and that would be the person that I would hire over The new dude or girl who comes in who just got a national cert, you know to in order to work there and it was a mistake because Number one, they didn't necessarily have more applicable knowledge Than the guy or girl who had the cert certification. Here's why You learn a lot with with that the formal education But we don't learn is how to apply it, which is everything it really is everything How to apply it is far more important than passing tests and books and that kind of stuff number two Your ability to communicate to clients and your passion for what you were doing and your willingness to Get new clients motivate people to go that extra mile It was far more valuable in terms of client success But also success to the gym than formal education It took me a year to figure this out I could see which trainers were doing great and which ones weren't doing that great And I'd see the skills that they had and I'm like, oh Um, it's communication skills. It's applying their training. It's how good they work with people far more valuable than Then you know all the schooling that they had. Yeah, I I agree This was um, it took me a long time to get to this place where I felt like I could build a team that I didn't I felt like I could get to a place like when I had Justin on the staff By that time in my career I got to a place where I felt like I really didn't have to work very much and the staff really carried the team But it took me a long time to figure that out one of the mistakes was Thinking that education was everything I found out later on that I'd rather have somebody who had little to no education That I could mold into the trainer that I wanted them to be Versus inheriting somebody who was really really smart and did things their way The other thing that I used to make a mistake on was trying to make all of my trainers like me You know, uh, that was all I knew. Uh, I had success. So I the things I taught was okay These are the things I'm successful at I'm good at let me try and make this trainer like me or give them These attributes that I had That was also a mistake. It was or at least was fleeting I'd find somebody who was like me and then we'd do well for a while But then I'd burn out a bunch of other people that weren't later on I began to look at my staff more like a football team. I have, you know, I've got linemen here I've got a running back here. I've got a wide receiver here And and really celebrating their their strengths and what they're great at and focusing on that That is what served me really well was looking for that So if I was to jump into a gym and I had to build a team right now and I had nothing I would look for a handful of trainers that are Young minimal education that I could educate and teach and train So I'd have a little core of that group and then I'd actually go look for Specialties, I'd want to have the mobility guy the sports performance guy or girl Okay, I'd want I'd want somebody who specializes in the the nutrition person who's just dialed in or has So I'd want all these kind of specialty type people to complement my core group of Chameleons that could that I'm going to develop that can train kind of anybody That's how I would build a team now And I think that would serve me better than going out and just looking for the smartest most experienced trainer Yeah, I like that You know that approach. I think that Really what you're looking for characteristic wise Is somebody who can really problem solve and think on the fly And you know the communication skills are going to carry them much further than their actual Knowledge coming into it a lot of this is is is learning and and being able to be confident and Convey your confidence to the clients and and and really like they they're the ones that are Believing in what you're you're doing with them And so that's really like the importance of it is to to establish these relationships the one-on-one relationships client to to trainer and To to really be able to see how that Flourishes for them to that point that I think this is also what changed for me too. How I interviewed So early on it was just like it was trainer type questions You know, what would you do in the case this or give me a case study of this like that completely changed later on my career to Like all behavioral based questions Totally yeah I wanted to get to the bottom of this person's character for the point that you're come You're bringing up right now. Justin is I want to learn about Are you going to be able to problem solve when you're put in this type of situation situation? How do you react and I was looking for the right characters to to build in there? Forget the education piece forget all the experience of being a personal trainer. Yeah, those things are nice If you don't have the right characteristics that I'm looking for for my team doesn't matter It doesn't matter. No, I do think it's good to have you know Some elder people on staff with some wisdom that you know So it's at least one or two, you know So that you're not carrying all the load of having to like, you know Convey all that to each person well that goes back to my point of like having these like special Like if you got this badass nutritionist badass sports person badass mobility person They can help educate that core five or six that you have right? So if you got this young these young minds that I used to have them run classes for the rest of the team Yes, because I would have that your leaders Absolutely because here's here's the truth the truth truth be told When you train the average person A very small percentage of your knowledge is ever going to it can be applied to this person really you're working with Most people are either beginners or haven't worked out in a while You're getting them to learn how to squaw you're getting them to learn how to row You all your your advanced education You don't even use it. You don't need it in very small case in very, you know Few cases you will but for the vast majority It's basic knowledge You just need to know how to apply it and communicate it properly and work well with with people But what you said adam is a hundred percent true, you know You definitely want because you're going to get the occasional client that comes in and says I want a trainer. I got a bad car accident a year ago I've got a really bad movement on my right side. I finished rehab. What trainer do you have working with me for? You know for me. Okay in that case. I want my rehab trainer Who's really really good and educated like you know in sports medicine. That's the person I'm going to send you out with her. You know, you have the person who's like, okay I just had gastric bypass Surgery, you know, I'm looking to hire a trainer. Okay. Who's my my really really good personable excellent communicator very empathetic trainer That's the person that I want working with this person But for the most part your clients are, you know, average person all these 30 pounds I've been eating, you know, standard american diet, you know, whatever I need to start working out two days a week or whatever then you'll have your general core So I think what you said adam was it's absolutely on point Look, uh, you can find a lot of free information from mind pump Just by going to mind pump free.com we have tons of guides On everything from how to develop your body to how to burn body fat Even on how to become a better personal trainer go to mind pump free.com go check all that out You can also find all of us on instagram So we're all on social media you can find Justin at mind pump Justin You can find me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam It's not because we think cardio is bad. It's not because we don't understand the benefits of it It's because we know that 90 of the majority of people that we train It's not ideal for them for the situation. They're currently in yes So cardio acid activity does have some health benefits But if you are the like most of the clients we worked with and let's say you were a woman in your 40s and you want to improve