 Welcome, everyone, to what the F is going on in Latin America. CodePink's weekly YouTube program of hot news out of Latin America and the Caribbean. Our broadcast partner this evening is Task Force on the Americas, and we so appreciate you waiting for us as we're broadcasting a few minutes late than promoted, but I think you will find the weight fully worth the chat with our guests this evening. So tonight we are broadcasting a few minutes early in order to accommodate our very special guest, National Assembly Candidate Biarina Correa Delgado. She's joining us from Ecuador, and she is a candidate for the National Assembly this Sunday in Ecuador's presidential and legislative elections. Before I introduce her, I just want to let all of you know that this evening's conversation will be in Spanish. We have Spanish to English translation available, and I'm going to put that link right now. If you give me just a moment, I'm going to put it in the YouTube comments, and I'm going to put it in Facebook, on my Facebook page, Terry Mattson, and you can, if you need the Spanish to English translation, you can follow the link and join us there. So give me just a minute to do that for you. So here it's in the comments on Facebook, and then let me put it on YouTube for you. Okay, thank you. Just want to get over that technicality. I don't want any of you to miss the content of tonight's talk. So tonight I'm joined, I have a co-host with me this evening, who I'm really honored to have joined me. We've been friends in solidarity work for many years, and he's with principle in securing our guest this evening for us. And this is a, I'm happy to welcome tonight, Professor Danny Shaw. He's a professor at John Jay, professor of Latin America and Caribbean Studies. And so welcome Danny, very pleased to have you join us. And it's great to work with you one on one again. And I'd also like you to know that he has a recent article. For those of you on Zoom, you can see it in the chat and I will post it in the YouTube comments and the Facebook comments too. And let me just tell you what the article is. All eyes on Ecuador presidential elections could bring back the citizens revolution. So I will, and that's published at co-host COHA.org. And I'll share that with you in the Facebook and YouTube comments. So welcome Danny. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure to be here. So partner Piarina, thank you very much for your patience. It's always a technical problem, but we always move forward. So tell us, do we get into that historical moment in Ecuador and also in the diaspora? There are moments of a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of enthusiasm, an imperialist. I know that today you were in Spain, you went around the world sharing a lot. Tell us, how do you feel the moment there in Quito and at the national level of Ecuador? How are you Danny? How are you Terry? Thank you very much. Carmelo too, thank you very much for the opportunity to share. I'm sorry for the dysphobia, but really speaking every day, you charge your price to go from one climate to another too. Today I was indeed connected via Zoom with our candidates for the European, Asian and Oceania circonscription, as a way of motivating them to continue working thanks to the government of Rafael Correa and for the decisions that were taken in the new constitution of 2008, the migrants could have a voice and vote in the National Assembly with two representatives for each of the circonscriptions. And that was important because it was a way to incorporate them in a better way in the decision making and the definition, design and public policies, the new reformation of the Law of Mobility, of institutions such as the National Secretary of the Migrant, the House of Migrants, among others, as a way of helping also to generate the conditions within the country in favor of the families that were left behind when they had to migrate and also propitiating the return of the Ecuadorian migrants who wanted it this way or wanted to do it this way towards Ecuador in the confidence that they were going to count on incentives with support conditions to resume their lives in Ecuador, to be able to start an employment, to have a way of income for their families, among other things. So that was one of the activities I had today. But basically on Monday here in Guayaquil, in Guayaquil, in my city of Natal, we had a great event that was the closing of my campaign as the first candidate in the National Assembly and we decided to do it strategically. It was the 1st of February. It was Monday, the first day of the week, and we are ready to go. So we aim at all these factors to make a strong call to the main artery or iconic avenue of the city of Guayaquil in a section of more than 10 squares between the Plaza del Centenario and the Malecón que da al Río Guayas. That place is iconic because it is in the center of the city. It is very close to the mayor's office. It is very close to the provincial government. So it is emblematic for the entire city of Guayaquil and especially for our main political contenders, the Ecuadorian right. Look, we had more than 20,000 people who retreated and walked with us, even under the rain, and we had a very strong message for everyone that Guayaquil is also with us. It is also added to the political project of the citizen revolution, to this progressive proposal of inclusion, equity, equality of opportunities for all the Ecuadorians, obviously, privileging, prioritizing the most vulnerable sectors focused on development, good living and the ability to count on a future for the new generations, for our children, for our grandchildren. After that event that was apotheosic and amazed a lot of people, it was a strong blow to favor our campaign. My brother Rafael called me to comment in favor of this event, to ask me how it had been and gave me the opportunity to go to the province of El Napo, in the eastern Ecuadorian region, the Amazon region, and to the province of El Carchi. Carchi is the northernmost province of our inter-Andean region, of the northern Sierra, it borders with Colombia and it has for these characteristics some needs and requirements that are quite particular, beyond others that coincide with other sectors of the rest of the country. In the end, as Andrés Araus was going to be tomorrow, in El Napo, in the end, I headed to El Carchi. We had a very good agenda, people are impressed when they hear our music, when they see us, when they know I'm there, we turn to the streets with impressive quantities. They go out to the windows, the balconies, they go out carrying Rafael's posters or a signature photo they give us testimonies about why the incredible gratitude was part of them towards Rafael, that a son was able to study thanks to the becas at prestigious universities in the world or that his father was saved thanks to the health system without a cost offered by the government. We had a testimony of a girl with intellectual disability who dragged the mother of the hand and she approached me and told me, one by one, Papi Rafael, Papi Correa, and she opened the blouse to teach us a tremendous psychiatrist who, thanks to the government of Rafael, had been able to access an open-hearted surgery that had saved her life. So the mother joined us and told us how not to be grateful. If he helped me with this, together with God, if he had built schools, if he had built hospitals, and that is the continuous clamor. Very few negative reactions in a day. Maybe two or three cases that make us with the pulgar down or that make us like this of rejection. Really, it's incredible. We have to add to this that there are many people who contradict us, who we don't like, but who have spent almost four years of this government, have been able to compare what they have done or what they haven't done for this government, the inominability with which the population has been treated, the lack of humanity and Christian charity against all the tragedy that COVID meant, and that it continues to mean, because it continues to charge deaths, against, without any scruples, taking us to the police in contrast to everything in the marches of October 2019 in protest, for the withdrawal of the subsidies, for the fuel and the liberation of international prices with all the impact that this represented for the family basket, for the acquisitive capacity of our people, for the salaries, among other things, and for the cost of transportation, of people, of load, of food. So, compared to that, zero public work, more debt, but compared to that with the 10 years of Rafael's government, Rafael's government had external debt within the margins that the Constitution points out, but we had public, physical and non-physical work, in the physical, I call it the concrete, which has to do with more than 10,000 kilometers of road, of roads with hydroelectric power plants, oil central plants for energy generation, from renewable sources, millenium units, schools in all sectors of the country, health units, from sub-centers to dispensaries, hospitals of different categories, specialities hospitals, as well as in different sectors of the country. Among many others, units of attention in the city, by the police, and more. So, and the non-physical concrete work, which I call the social work, that is, the economy, the strengthening of the popular and solidary economy, increasing the social activity, so that people from scarce resources could be organized in this way, to be providers of services, of products, of supplies to the government, as well as, for example, the school meals and food programs, the free delivery programs, of uniforms and books, to students in public schools, the renewal program, or charterization, which had a recognition of the innovation at the regional level, which consisted of those vehicles of the automotive park, they could, which were already fulfilled their useful life, they could, or that they were in a bad state, they were contaminated and had a risk for the driver, they could, already land it, the government gave them a value according to the age of the vehicle, and they, with that value, could access a credit, giving it as an entry, and be able to renew the automotive park. It was extremely well received, buses were renewed, taxis were renewed, and other vehicles, and in this new period of Andrés Arauz and Carlos Ravazcal, this project will be resumed, but expanding it, to the fibers, to the boats, to the boats, to the pangs, of the artisanal fishers who need to renew the fleet, putting the engines inside, that is, it was not on board, but inside the structure to prevent or complicate the theft of the engines, and also to make it extensive, to the agricultural machinery, that in many sectors, it is being converted, already without use, oxidizing, becoming, in the guaride of animals, of grasshoppers and such, so that they can access new machinery. So, they could already compare, many people compared, and with mail, they said, we had economic stability, security, political stability, labor stability, legal security, citizen security, among other things, at this moment, we have nothing of that. There is a law that approved the current assembly, which is a reason for shame, called the Law of Humanitarian Support, which has no support or humanitarian support at all. It is a law that allows the transgression and the regression of rights strictly achieved by the working class of the country, allowing dismissals of tens of thousands of workers, of the public sector, and also many workers from certain sectors of the private sector, have stopped in a bad economic condition, in the financial crisis, that the country lives without respecting the liquidations that, by law, correspond to remuneration and work position. So that you have an example. A private education institution fired an inspector with 35 years of service and received 700 dollars of liquidation. And if he has 35 years of service, he probably bords 60 years of age and simply has no option to get a job because there is neither for young people nor for professional people. Another sector, another sector of the public sector, is reduced to half the working hours and therefore the income, the salaries. So all have lost their acquisitive capacity and in this moment they are faced with the impossibility of saving debts acquired when there was labor stability, they acquired a credit for a vehicle or they acquired a mortgage credit for their housing or they have their credit card with which they provide their expenses, the acquisition of food, payments that they have to make and today they cannot save those payments. So we are already living a situation where public services are being cut. The Constitution says that they cannot cut the services, they are already cutting them no matter if in that residence lives elderly people or with disability or if they have a job or not. The banks, the financial institutions are sending third-party companies to charge debts and to start co-activates in cases where they cannot save the debts. So there is a very bad situation for a very high percentage of the Ecuadorian population and there is no job donation at all. The few people who have a job care for them and that is the reality that the country lives in. My colleague is very symbolic that you are already in the streets organizing, in company and where Lenin Moreno is located. He has a few days here in Washington with his wife Solte's from the FM&E. He is so symbolic. But since there are only 24 hours left to hold the campaign and few days for the elections, what can you expect before Sunday? There are many here that we have that can see fraud or any trick. How are you going to analyze this situation? Look, to complement what you said about Lenin Moreno, he really is an absent president even when he is in the country. So the one who is outside or inside really does not make any difference because he has not had the interest to face and face the demands of being a president of the republic with all the complexity that it implies. Regarding the second part of the question, lastimosamente, no tenemos absolutamente ninguna garantía de transparencia en el proceso. Tenemos observadores internacionales provenientes de diferentes organismos y diferentes latitudes del planeta con quienes se ha tenido algo de contacto y que empiezan a darse cuenta de lo que realmente pasa. Hemos venido sintiendo una persecución muy fuerte. Primero, hacia Rafael Correa, ya conocemos tiene 39 casos en su contra, ya una sentencia ejecutoría de infirme en un buicio cargado de fraude procesal como podremos comprobar lo más adelante. Luego, la persecución a otros miembros de la directiva de Revolución Ciudadana a partir de los resultados obtenidos en las elecciones seccionales de marzo 2019 contra todo pronóstico porque participamos en unas condiciones completamente adversas con bloqueo mediático, sin recursos económicos, con un movimiento prestado que realmente a la campaña, en lugar de presentar propuestas, se redujo a tratar de posicionar e identificar el nuevo número de lista con que éramos la lista de Rafael Correa en un proceso donde no tuvimos candidatos en todas las dignidades y locaciones en las que se iban a elegir, por ejemplo, Guayas, la provincia más poblada del país. De 25 cantones, apenas teníamos candidatos alcaldes y consejarles en 11, imagínate, en 11, en la provincia más poblada del país. Sin embargo, hicimos tan buen trabajo que yo estaba de candidata a la prefectura del Guayas, mi campaña, mi votación, corresponde a la tercera parte de la votación nacional conjunta de nuestro movimiento, logramos sobrepasar el 11% y el Consejo Nacional Electoral nos declaró la primera fuerza política del país. Eso disparó alertas porque veníamos de que nos quitaron un movimiento, veníamos de que nos impideran por tres ocasiones y iniciar un proceso para tener movimiento propio, veníamos de participar en elecciones seccionales como un movimiento prestado y aún así demostrábamos una fuerza política que nadie se esperaba. ¿Qué pasó? Comenzó también la persecución y los ataques al movimiento. Tan es así que ya prácticamente en vígperas de arrancar este nuevo proceso de elecciones generales, tuvimos que usar plan B y tuvimos que acoger la apertura de posibilidad de participar como centro democrático esta vez con la lista 1. Le suspendieron a compromiso socialista 5 la actividad política que después fue revertido por el tribunal contencioso electoral. Le quitaron la vida jurídica por poco tiempo después se la restituyeron y como había absoluta incertidumbre respecto de si iba a poder participar o no este movimiento ¿Qué se procedió a hacer? La alianza unes unión por la esperanza entre centro democrático lista 1 y compromiso social lista 5. De tal manera que, de acuerdo al reglamento de la alianza, si algo pasaba con una de las dos organizaciones políticas la que quedara asumía a los candidatos. Así pasamos por primarias. Miren ustedes las contradicciones. Dado el COVID, el Consejo Nacional Electoral dispuso que todas las actividades de participación interna democracia interna, podían ser telemáticas. Es decir, por zoom como estamos conversando ahora. Las primarias podían ser por zoom, pero pusieron una disposición que 10 días después de las primarias, quienes hubieren quedado como candidatos tenían que acudir en persona a su respectiva circuncripción y Consejo Nacional Electoral de Legación a aceptar la candidatura. ¿Por qué pusieron esto? Porque Rafael estaba terciando para vicepresidente de la República y al vivir en Bélgica y al tener una orden de prisión vigente evidentemente no podía trasladarse al ecuador para presentarse en el Consejo Nacional Electoral en su delegación principal, en Quito. Entonces, era la presión para que no pudiera o deben ir capturarlo. Ese era la intención. Sin embargo, equivocaron los términos y que pusieron que tenía que ser expresa, personalísima e indelegable la aceptación. Bueno, él cumplió todos esos conceptos al estar presente via plataforma de zoom desde el inicio de que yo ingresé como su acoderada y su representante en el Consejo Nacional Electoral y él mencionó delante de todos los asistentes, el delegado y la prensa que aceptaba la candidatura vicepresidente. Igual le hicieron un montón de problemas, se lo inscribió, se lo registró, luego finalmente lo inhabilitaron con la sentencia de cutoría de infirme, pero comenzaron a hacerle problemas al nuevo binomio con Carlos Rabascal. Recién en diciembre pudimos tener la tranquilidad de saber que teníamos binomio presidencial y que se ha calificado en firme y por ende con la posibilidad real de estar en la papeleta electoral. Son 16 candidatos. Actualmente un candidato decidió ingresar a último momento. Ha habido impugnaciones, ha habido recursos que se han puesto en el Consejo Nacional Electoral y en el Tribunal Contencioso Electoral y eso ha hecho que se vayan atrasando los procesos, por ejemplo, la impresión de las papeletas. En lo de impresión de papeletas, hay, descubrieron, que había error en el nombre de un movimiento político y más de 6 millones de papeletas dañadas con ese error. Un costo aproximado de 500 mil dólares en un presupuesto raquítico por todos lados. Entonces, ahí vienen algunas preguntas. A ver, ¿quién contó y quién puede certificar al 100% con transparencia absoluta que son la cantidad de papeletas que dicen y no más? ¿Por qué son 6 millones y no son 6,250,000? ¿Cómo podemos tener la garantía de que fueron destruidas absolutamente todas las papeletas dañadas? ¿Cómo podemos tener la seguridad de que no han guardado unas cuantas y empezarán a aparecer en las mesas el domingo 7 de febrero? Son algunas preguntas. Luego, con este candidato que quiso entrar a un último momento, se cuestionó la candidatura de Parlamento Andino. ¿Qué dijo el Consejo Nacional Electoral que Parlamento Andino se iba a elegir en segunda vuelta y entonces volvían a surir las preguntas? ¿Cómo pueden garantizar que va a haber una segunda vuelta cuando las encuestas tanto nacionales como internacionales y estamos hablando de casi 14 encuestas dan en promedio que una posibilidad muy real, muy cercana de que Andrés Arauz y Carlos Ravazcal ganen en primera vuelta la elección presidencial al pasar del 40% de la votación y tener mínimo 10% de diferencia, 10 puntos porcentuales con respecto de su inmediato seguidor. Esa decisión es motivo de nulidad de las elecciones de acuerdo a la Constitución de la República. Entonces, ante la presión de la ciudadanía incluso la gente decía ya pues o sea dejen la persecución dejen los intentos de postergar dejen los intentos de anular de paralizar las elecciones. La Constitución señala dos fechas que son inamovibles. El 14 de mayo, que es el día de la posesión de la Asamblea Nacional y el 24 de mayo que es la posesión del binomio presidencial. Esas fechas no se pueden mover por lo tanto todos los procesos previos tienen que ser planificados para concluirse antes de esa fechas y poder tener resultados oficiales y los documentos para acreditar la posesión de las autoridades electas. ¿Qué pasa? Decidieron finalmente imprimir las papeletas del Parlamento Andino pero no van a poder repartirlas en Comunidad Migrante. Con Comunidad Migrante surgió otro problema. Han cerrado consulados. Hay consulados que son concurrentes a varios países. Si a eso le sumas el COVID que hay países que han cerrado fronteras y que tienen muchas restricciones de movilización estamos ante un proceso que no permite pensar que haya las condiciones para que los migrantes ecuatorianos puedan acudir a los diferentes recintos electorales a depositar su voto. No tenemos voto electrónico ni voto por correo. Así que la única forma de votar es acudir físicamente al recinto electoral. Entonces, ¿qué pasa? Ahora último surgió un intento de un integrante del Consejo Nacional Electoral de pedir de demandar a Andrés Arauz y Carlos Robascal el retiro de sus derechos políticos. ¿Por qué razón? Porque como parte de la campaña estamos haciendo brigadas médicas de tomas de muestras pruebas rápidas COVID de una manera muy responsable. Hay médicos y personal hay un médico responsable de la brigada y todo el personal tiene es médico es calificado lo hacen con las medidas de bioseguridad mascarilla el borro para la cabeza guantes los trajes antifluidos y los casos que tenemos positivos se hacen la certificación con el sello del doctor responsable y se lo deriva con todos los datos de salud más cercano para que ya ellos como sistema de salud estatal asuman el seguimiento y el eventual tratamiento de ese paciente positivo. Por esa razón, algo que debería estar haciendo el gobierno nacional lo que le quieren quitar sus derechos políticos. Entonces hay una campaña también de fake news impresionante impresionante provocando el rechazo para que la gente por ejemplo Andrés ofreció mil dólares en la primera semana de su gobierno para atender a un millón de familias las que están en situación más precaria en función del registro social y que han pasado unos videos unos audios en que supuestamente se invita a que vayan a las centrales a retirar un primer desembolso de 250 dólares y que la diferencia se le entrega contra presentación del voto a favor de Andrés Arauz. Entonces es un desgaste también porque nos toca estar aclarando que es un fake news que no es así, que la forma correcta es de esta otra manera. Entonces es una persecución continua a mí por ejemplo me prohiben usar la mención de parte de la canción que uso como correa las obras Vivi no podemos usar la voz de Rafael o su presencia en un video convocando, invitando a votar por los candidatos de nuestro movimiento porque le retiraron los derechos políticos y los derechos ciudadanos, humanos el derecho a la libertad de expresión él es nuestro líder máximo no hay ninguna excusa y cuando se les pide que demuestren en mano el sustento para ese pedido se quedan mudos o dicen es que de la nacional nos dieron la disposición en mi caso no quieren que use el correa si saben que apellido tengo yo entonces nosotros usamos el elogan Pierina es correa y está en la papeleta que pretenden ahora que me cambien el apellido también por favor entonces que muchos sectores que no no simpatizaban con nosotros ya reaccionan y digan ya basta de persecución si tanto odio le tienen a correa que lo sepulten en urnas que muestren con el voto el rechazo a la propuesta de correa o los candidatos de correa porque en democracia las elecciones se ganan con votos entonces nosotros estamos preparados mañana por eso estoy en quito y estuve como le digo en tulcan en carchi viajé a quito, llegué como a las 5.30 a la tarde porque aquí vamos a tener el evento de cierre de campaña nacional de Andrés Arauz y Carlos Robascal eso será las 2 de la tarde tendremos una actividad fuerte y con eso cerraríamos ya la campaña electoral porque a partir de mañana del viernes 5 de febrero arranca el silencio electoral lo que ahí ya no podemos dar entrevistas con connotación proselitista ya no podemos hacer cuñas, ni participaciones ni actividades proselitistas y lo que si estamos trabajando con fuerzas el control electoral en guayas por ejemplo necesitamos casi 10.000 personas para que estén distribuidas en las diferentes mesas en los diferentes recintos coordinadores de recintos tabuladores de resultados la gente a cargo del escaneo de las actas son como 10.000 personas que representan también un costo conseguir apoyo financiero para la campaña ha sido muy duro y es natural si como consecuencia del caso sobornos sentenciaron a ocho años a empresarios contratistas del gobierno y no de Rafael sino de hacía 20-30 años que supuestamente pagaron millonarias coimas difrasadas de aportes a campaña para obtener jugoso y millonarios contratos no se demostró para nada eso y Rafael fue condenado por influjo psíquico algo que también nos ha hecho quedar en una situación de burla a todo nivel pero como le pides a un empresario que te apoye cuando corres el riesgo de que te monten un juicio inventado y te sentencien años de cárcel y apagos también exorbitantes no ha sido fácil sin embargo las crisis generan oportunidades nos hacen ser toda esta persecución nos hace ser mas inventivos mas recursivos y de poquito en poquito hemos ido avanzando creo que hemos hecho una campaña estupenda en redes sociales en los diferentes plataformas en las calles como Rafael nos enseñó siempre junto al pueblo siempre cerca del pueblo ahí esa empatía, esa cercanía y eso lo reconoce la gente en las primistas de los resultados hay un alto porcentaje de indecisos creemos que es el voto que se conoce como vergonzoso que no quiere manifestarse publicamente por temor a represalias y que simplemente espera el momento de votar para manifestar su voluntad un poco lo que pasó en Bolivia en Bolivia no le daban la menor posibilidad de presidentearse y sin embargo, miren ustedes que la afluencia fue completamente masiva la votación abrumadora a tal punto que a la presidenta y legítima le tocó reconocer que el triunfo aunque todavía no había resultados oficiales creemos que algo así en el país y vamos a estar vigilantes de los votos, cuidar los votos y exigir la transparencia del proceso en el cual se repete la voluntad del elector del ciudadano más allá del resultado que arroje y pedir también fuertemente a la a la a los observadores para que ellos den vuelta supervisen y también sean ayuden a ser garantes de la transparencia en el proceso esta en juego la patria, el futuro de la patria estos cuatro años han sido el peor gobierno de la historia del país falto de humanidad, de capacidad de de todo, realmente y ha preferido endeudar más el país, utilizar reservas del banco central para pagar deuda anticipada para que la gente se moría en las calles cuando se acumulaban los muertos cuando los familiares tenían que permanecer con sus parientes fallecidos, porque no tenían como enterrarlos sin cuidar al personal médico de primera línea con lo elemental de bioseguridad despidiendo médicos en época de pandemia una cosa de no creer somos el país el segundo país en muertes de millones de habitantes y el que peor ha manejado la pandemia y reconocido así cristalmente a nivel mundial Terry, were you going to ask a question? Terry, querías una pregunta? Yeah, so She was raising her hand I'm so impressed and so honored to listen to your presentation this evening and you have shared with us so much that we do not hear in the United States from your party's participation and what in some of the attempts at fraud and oppression that you're suffering we don't hear that here in the state so I'm so thankful for you to share this with us you mentioned earlier a couple things that I wonder if you could comment on one with the COVID-19 and we had the honor of a conversation with Guillaume Long, the former foreign minister about some of the failures of the current governor government in responding to COVID-19 and processing some of the people that had perished and I wonder listening to you in this run up to Sunday if what you are expecting on Sunday is a complete rejection of the return to neoliberalism that the current government has introduced or reintroduced and also you mentioned your political party or political activity as a movement and I want would you please comment on the importance of building political parties out of movements versus a movement coming from a political party as we've seen the successful recreation of your political philosophy in Ecuador and we also saw what was capable what was possible in Bolivia with the mass creating a party versus the party creating mass so be wonderful if you could comment on both of those for us ok respect to the COVID-19 has also been used from different instances to cause fear to contagion however to make our tourists on January 2nd so why there is no problem with that opening and why there is a problem to be able to vote have put other difficulties at the beginning they intended to impose the vote in turns depending on the last digit of the identity when people reacted then they saw that it was a recommendation ok the COVID-19 has been very badly managed expulsed 400 Cuban doctors who were supporting us in the medical area here in Ecuador 70 of them were experts in treatment of epidemics and this type of disease many doctors and staff linked to the medical services licensed nurses what ironically the attention of the health service they never transferred the rentals they had committed extra budget to the Ministry of Health to attend the COVID-19 and the emergency of the Ministry of Health in the annual normal budget the Ministry of Health had received a budget of 36% they had decreed on three occasions the state of exception according to our constitution allows the government to reduce freedom of mobilization agroupation a series of freedoms and allow them to obtain economic resources of state institutions except health and education except those two areas however this government has not had any contemplation and took $2,000,000 of the reserves of the central bank to pay that debt had to be paid in the year 2022-23 why did they have to do this because when they gave the guarantees they had given the double of the required guarantees when they realized that they wanted to renegotiate and the debtors gave them no problem, we renegotiated but they had to pay so those $2,000,000 they were going to make that payment paying the bonds almost 100% of their value when they were strongly punished in the market and they were paid 35% and 37% of their nominal value due to the high risk of the country that had the Ecuador in a negotiation that lasted 11 days so that you can see the comparison in Argentina the negotiation took 4 months and they paid 42% of the nominal value of the external debt bonus however there are no medicines in the hospitals there are no the most elementary ones I am not talking about equipment or high complexity for super complicated diseases there is no gas there is no catheter there is no elementary ok? and despite the fact that the hospitals of the Ciudadana revolution referring to them as white elephants over-dimensioned over-priced those white elephants over-priced and over-dimensioned made the difference so that we did not have to regret a greater number of deaths one thing is that I tell you another thing is that it has been lived we at the moment have a very strong block of communication media conventional for example, in tele-amazons which is a completely opposite media the order comes from the owner who is also the owner of the Pichincha bank not to give me absolutely half a minute of space but not even to say hello and I only smile so we have had to be again recursive to go to digital platforms to the various social networks like Twitter and Instagram, Facebook even Tik Tok I have had to do to be able to take the message and diversify it that is what has to do with Covid recently this government made an acquisition of 8,000 vaccines that have also been reasons for questioning and strong first in a possible over-priced that apparently the vaccines were $4 that I and they were paying $80 I think there are some complaints about it but beyond that the Ministry of Health does not want to transparent and make public the lists of the people who are vaccinated and has vaccinated friends to his mother or has directed the vaccines not even in the first place to the people who are in the first line of health but with certain favouritism 8,000 vaccines to the 4,000 people because they have to apply two doses one first and then 12 and 15 days the second dose so that the first and together have validity Andrés Arauz has also been ironically and questioned in a bad way because he pointed out that he was managing with the support of President Alberto Fernández from a private company being vaccinated in Argentina 4,400 and 5,000 vaccines that will be applied following a calendar that has also been published from the first day of the first month should be of his government because obviously he has to acquire them and they asked him in the presidential debate that in quality with a bad expression in quality of what he had gone to Argentina to do this management and Andrés' answer was in quality of the future President of the Republic of Ecuador we firmly believe that the people have already received and fit all the blow that has meant the exercise of this neoliberal government social instability economic policy worker insecurity worker instability worker insecurity citizen insecurity there is no work the economy does not move however the debt passes with growth in just four years the debt of the ten years of the city revolution with the difference that in the city revolution there was work then they keep attacking us but we have absolute faith that the people will manifest and will return the progress to Ecuador with all the opportunities of development of the entire population without discrimination but with prioritization now I think that there I mixed the two topics Terry I do not know if you answer everything very well and we do not want to take advantage of because they are still on the campaign and they are shaking me here like crazy that you already have a meeting in Quito but to tie two more minutes so that the team does not stay on fire with me the FMI we saw an agreement of $6.5 billion that Trump wanted to sign at the end with that tradition and you can say his name how the UNESCO will respond to the FMI and with that we will not take more time look the FMI when Rafael Correa assumed the government in 2007 the FMI was in the country and also the World Bank but Rafael considered and he is an economist so he has the knowledge of his analysis that the FMI was to create a unending bill in which they lent you to pay and they lent you to continue debting and it was a vicious circle so he renegotiated the debt he paid and they left the country and the government began to take off the economy began to take off at the transition between Patricio Rivera the last minister of the government and the first minister of the government of Lenin Moreno Carlos de la Torre costed him to give up because he recognized that the numbers were in blue and blue and that documentation rests in the central bank and ironically in the morning to present it to the International Monetary Fund that also at some point had recognized that although they did not coincide with the economic vision of Rafael Correa and his government had to recognize that the economic management was the correct one and it was delivered with a growth in blue then it reversed that and what is the problem that negotiation with the International Monetary Fund and it was initially $4,200,000,000 ironically the same amount that this government forgave in debts of not paying the tax not paying the SRI to a small group of big industrial, big businessmen and bankers then a solution was to charge the debtors if paying taxes is a obligation it is not an option it is a fiscal crime then to the back of the Pueblo Catoriano the Constitution says that all types of international agreement international agreement has to go through knowledge and approval of the National Assembly that agreement never came it was signed between fallows and midnight and with a series of requirements reduce the size of the State how many people count tens of thousands that have been left in the streets without any option and with the complication of not having how to honor debts the increase of the IVA we have a 12% IVA since it has been approved an increase of 2% but it will not apply to this government but it will leave it so that the next government receives the rejection of citizenship and how they intend to reactivate a raquitic economy where there is no circulating where there is no purchasing power because the people have been left without employment and those who still have keep and take care until the last cent and on top of that increase in taxes on the contrary in the worst of cases you keep and in the best of cases according to the respective analysis until you lower the taxes to incentivize the spending, to incentivize the consumption and to re-activate the economy so the position of UNES of the binomial of hope is to re-negotiate that agreement with the International Monetary Fund unfortunately until it is not possessed in its positions of President and Vice President they will not be able to take a more direct and more punctual action and continue trying to avoid it now last they also approved a law which is shameful and which allows to charge 2% 2% of the sales that is to say you are a micro businesswoman who is hoping that you try not to say goodbye to employees that is circulating that you do not have to sell your product because no one buys that you do not have to pay your employees the product of your sale you have to pay 2% that is, not of the utility not of the wealth, it is not tax the income, the income is maintained but it is charged 2% to the sale group and they no longer allow income and income tax then they continue to form a panorama, a situation that every time adds to the country in more misery and poverty has increased the unemployment reported by the INEC and the National Institute of statistics and census which is of the State points above the million people without employment there is sub-employment there is an adequate employment there is formal employment now professional who go out to the streets to sell you a bottle of water to do some laundry if you have the activity to offer you to clean the windshield with such a sum a few cents to take home we see children working on the streets and for them when they had drastically lowered the number of children that is unfortunately the scenario that we have in the country at this time and they are going to start a series of protests because with the withdrawal of the subsidies to the fuel everything has been shot obviously the transport of passengers is already fighting for them to accept an increase in the number of passengers but that at the same time enters in an ascending spiral and in a major in a major harm for the common citizen worse for the one who does not have a job because if before it cost I invent 25 cents the passenger and now they are going to raise double if before it cost 25 now you are not going to be able a heavy burden that translates the products from the production centers to the commercialization centers and consumption of course they are going to have to increase the rates because the tires cost more the fuel costs more the lubricants cost more everything costs more and who is the affected the final consumer so that has also shot this whole situation the citizen insecurity the crimes have been shot it is uncontrollable there are no sectors that you can say you know what do not go through there because it is dangerous no you are in the wrong place at the wrong time and you can fall dead by a cross bullet a few days ago died a baby of a year because the father had it in his arms outside his house some murderers came to practice scarlet they shot him the guy ran away with the baby in his arms the baby received a bullet and died so it is no longer only that you take account between criminals for misrepresentation for whatever it is today the people who ask for work and citizen security so that they do not get caught do not beat them up something that with so much effort has achieved I have seen videos of a lady who goes on the street with her wallet two motorcyclists approach her and the lady does the only thing she does is stretch her hand with the wallet to deliver it and avoid greater damage that is the reality that is lived at this moment with a completely paralyzed economy people are in despair and that we hope that it begins to reverse a massive vote in favor of our a progressive proposal a proposal of a social project that privileges the human being on the capital privileges the equality of opportunities of development for the entire Ecuadorian people that is the basis of our proposal go ahead Terry so I am so honored to have you join us and I know keep our conversation to 40 minutes and you have been gracious enough to stay with us an hour Danny and I both know that you have an emergency meeting to attend to in the capital so I want to just again say thank you and I hope on Sunday that your party and all the citizens can vote in such a manner as to replace this neoliberal government and return to a government of the people we wish you luck in that and our hopes and prayers are with you here I am actually speaking to you this evening from Mexico City Danny is in Washington DC you are in Ecuador and I have to give a huge shout out and thank you to our translator this evening who is actually working with us from Argentina so we have a really terrific international multilateral panel tonight and I hope that that is representative of what can happen throughout the Americas after you and your party win on Sunday well we are aiming not only to reinforce a new government of the people that is why we work as people's revolution but we also aim to reinforce the whole region my brother refers to it as La Patria Grande in which the different members of different countries can work together on behalf of the whole region if Europe was able to do it with all the countries there, why not us probably if we had UNASUR or CELAC or this kind of organizations within the region probably we would have been able to manage financing to manage meetings of health ministers of all the countries involved and seek for global solutions for the whole region so we are aiming at reinforcing to you're very close to my brother in fact because he's staying in Mexico until after the elections to be a little bit closer to us and thank you I have to thank you for this invitation and please feel free to plan another one maybe we can meet after the elections to talk about the reasons okay and what we are looking forward to so I'm the one to be thankful for your time and for your interest in what's happening in my country and you can feel 100% secure that we are going to be very responsible with our job in my place in my family assembly because there's another objective another goal we have to reach and it's recover the respect and the confidence towards this this function of the state coming from the people because right now the acceptance is 2% almost nothing and it's the most important institution or function in the country because if you don't have the legal frame in which you can in all the institutions and all the people from the government if you don't have that legal frame you won't be able to work according to your responsibilities that's something that has to be considered and it's very important to us to make a very to do a very professional very responsible job within the assembly and in order to regain that confidence and that respect from the people that's very important to us too beautiful thank you so much and we'll be here in solidarity we see all of our Ecuadorian sisters and brothers in the streets of New Jersey and Queens in the epicenters of the massive Ecuadorian community here in Spain so your victory is our victory your struggle is our struggle and your victory is going to be our victory thank you companion for your time and thank you Maria José I know that you're listening there yes, you're here that I'll go to the side but no, as I always say at the end of my time thank you so much good night thank you everyone for joining us thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you everyone for joining us thank you Danny what a pleasure to work with you again this evening really wonderful and wonderful guest we'll take to our audience we'll definitely follow up on her offer to do a post-election evaluation that would be wonderful so be sure to watch us next week Wednesday we generally broadcast live on YouTube Wednesdays at 7.30pm for our next episode and again, thank you professor Danny Shaw thank you to our wonderful translator this evening Carmela Valesquez and we'll see all of you next week good night good night, thank you