 Michael Crane and welcome to this episode of Fort Worth Forward. We're coming to you from JD's hamburgers on the west side of Fort Worth and we'll have Gigi Howell with JD's hamburgers today we'll be talking to her as well as Orlando Carvalho who is with the Fort Worth Museum of Science and History and Terence Butler with Academy 4. Let's get started. My first guest today I'm very excited about great hamburger spot on the west side of Fort Worth called JD's hamburgers. It's Gigi Howell who's the operating partner of JD's hamburgers. Welcome Gigi. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being out here at JD's. I know it's such a beautiful spot. Thank you. And this I would say this this area is going through a renaissance. Do you agree? I would agree with that and I'm super happy to be part of it. It's it's amazing that you're here and if people aren't familiar tell tell them where you're located. So we are at 9901 Camp Booy west boulevard which in my family this is highway 80. Yes that's right that's right. We are located just near Margie's original Italian kitchen which a lot of people are familiar with the old naughty pine the old last call the last call was what this is called a gathering spot for the biker group Trula Chasers which raised a ton of money here in Fort Worth and Tarrant County for MHMR still our next-door neighbors and we're just getting to know everybody in the area and having a great time being out here. Well it is an amazing little spot that most people probably don't know about and I think there's a lot of history here Westland is what it was called and it was kind of at one point in some little municipality or before becoming for part of Fort Worth I don't know all the history. So it was basically just an area that a lot of people moved and gathered here in Westland on the west side of Fort Worth. My family in particular great-grandparents great two sets of great aunts and uncles my grandparents when they moved to Fort Worth they settled here in Westland so I grew up out here on the weekends in the summers just running around Mary's Creek crawdad fishing kitchen frogs whatever and it was certainly one of those times where the street light comes on and you go home and I think in the area back when they lived here you might not see your kid for a couple of days because they're just at someone else's house that was nothing it was never a worry people just all got along here they had an area where they they voted they went to school they did plays the adults did plays for the kids in the community here and it was called the Westland Civic League and if you're ever out of the restaurant you'll see quite a few pictures inside but I think that this area kind of went through a stage where it wasn't the the family place that it was where everybody gathered together and so my partner Burke and I we love this area we want to see this area come back we want people to know what their next-door neighbors names are and we'd love to be a spot where people gather and that's what we're hoping to become for the area that kind of philosophy why you picked this area absolutely you know with the family history here Burke and I have been wanting to do something together for a long time there hasn't been the the one spot that came up that we were like let's do it when he brought me here before the transformation yes I think most people probably would have been like I don't know but we looked at each other and we were like yeah let's do it I think we can do it so we're happy to be here well it is a beautiful spot and it is this area that spent some time over here in my district too that is transitioning into what was can be again and it sounds like we're in the middle of country that you're you're explaining but we're really not we were like less than a mile from 820 yes and on Camp Booy or highway 80 as I call it to and you've mentioned Margie's you've got Dylan's craft across the street I Dane's craft barbecue Dane's craft barbecue that's right sorry I've murdered that one but just a lot starting to come over this side and we're just very close to Lost Creek and then out to the rest all the west of part of Fort that's going to develop out absolutely we've got so many new rooftops in the area we've got Walsh Ranch Lost Creek that you mentioned has been here for a good long time we've got Montserrat Montserrat we've got all saints high school over here on sports and more rooftops coming in the area I'm actually going to be moving into the area in about a week so I'm happy to thank you there you go so I just think that we have a lot to offer the community a gathering place hopefully part of a revitalization of the area and we just look forward to being able to serve the community here well that's wonderful you have been in the hospitality industry for a long period of time why do you like it what do you do you kind of tell us a little bit about yourself so excuse me I believe that some people might think it's crazy but I absolutely love being in the restaurant industry the hospitality industry I think that one I love food so that that bodes well for me I have you got to love food right we're gonna do this 100 people probably too right yes so I love to serve people I love to make people happy I love to be the person who anticipates their next need and I meet it before they even know and that's what gets me going and so having a food platform is definitely the best way to do that for people and so I've just always loved it I I started you know for extra money in a restaurant back when I was a teenager worked for Ed Lowe of Celebration Restaurant who taught me so much about serving people and just taking care of guests my grandmother growing up she always thought that the best good manner you could have is making people feel comfortable I agree with that a hundred percent and so that's what we want to do here and and I don't know it just it's it's what melts my butter so to speak I just I just love serving people that's great this this is a fun spot my family been here we've been here several times yes because the burgers are good the the fried okra oh yeah eyes are good yeah yeah I'm getting hungry right now thinking about it but I you know we've done a lot of spotlighting on this show about small businesses and I'm putting on the spot a little bit because I talked to Burke a lot during the process of getting this open but if you had advice I mean I truly believe that that small businesses are our backbone we have to do what we can to support them and make sure that they can open easily and thrive here in the city of Fort Worth but if you had some advice to give to someone that's thinking about starting opening and and running a small business what would you say to them I would say there's definitely got to be a lot of planning before you even take your your things to the city I think that the city has been helpful in most aspects and and sometimes been a bit of a roadblock and and we're coming off of a really strange time with the pandemic and so I feel like there's a lot of confusion at the beginning of trying to get stuff started there was for us and and I think that if you have all of your financing all of your ideas and thoughts everything collected before you even go to the city I think that that that provides such a good platform for you both to get together in your relationship and move forward that's good good advice I would say too you kind of brought up this idea of having in essence your paperwork all together and I think some people go I have an idea let me let me just do it but there's some steps you got to do in between you may have your own financing we got to look for financing and you know putting those ideas on paper where someone else can believe in your dream just as much as you do things also important right absolutely when Burke and I first started talking about doing something that we have had several other ideas that like I mentioned earlier that maybe those things weren't going to transform into what we what we dreamed I am very guilty of making storyboards sure I mean and I'm talking I have boards around the house that it comes to a point where they're like okay are we done with this one can we get this one out of the way so we started that way we put everything down on paper we put our dreams on paper we put our thoughts and beliefs down on paper then you have to bring in an architect and then you have to bring in people that can help you envision your dream that they're on the same page as you and and when I say that you can't just have the idea you can't because when you get to the city they're going to say well we need this this and so do your research on the website and and even through your city council people in your area use those things to get prepared to go before the city and I think that that will help tremendously that's great well I wish you all the success here thank you so much keep having some crane money coming towards you help me help me pay the light bill pay the light bill yeah because it's a great spot and I really appreciate all you're doing thank you so much revitalize this part and just just being a part of Fort Worth well thank you and we appreciate everything you do here for us too thank you I appreciate it thanks all right thanks good to see you too thanks so much welcome now I'm here with Orlando Carvalho who has done a lot of great things for the city of Fort Worth but now is the president of the Fort Worth Museum of Science and History welcome Orlando hey thank you Michael it's great to be here thanks well I have long been an admirer of yours and I know recently you were asked to step into this president role with the museum how's that going how did that sort of come about well back in March I received a phone call from a few of the board members who I know and they asked if I could step in as the interim until a new permanent president was found cities weren't interim president yeah but that's okay that's okay and uh and so uh you know given the history of the museum and my own knowledge of the museum I was happy to to go ahead and step into the role and Michael's been a great experience I discovered a great team there at the museum and for the last eight months that I've been there I think we've been doing a lot of great things well I know you've been doing a lot of great things there you know I grew up going to that museum you know summer programs where I learned a lot of science you know I still remember learning the planets from from the classes there where you know you you learn Mother Venus eats many juicy stakes using no plates and that's still one Pluto was a planet so I don't know what they're using now but what are some of the things in the program that you have that and I know there's there's really a focus on being all inclusive that's right and what that looks like across our city as it changes well speaking of all inclusive Michael we um recently opened up a new playground at the at the museum that is right off the children's area okay what was there previously was called the waterworks okay and I think a lot of people like yourself probably remember it in the course in the summertime it was a lot of fun to go out there as the kids and run around in the fountains and and which is why it was called the waterworks a lot of a lot of water a lot of splashing but with the ice storms that we had the last few years it really damaged the plumbing that that that supported all that and so the museum made the decision that instead of trying to correct all that we were going to put a playground in it and it's an all inclusive playground meaning that it's fashioned after the playground that's over by trinity river dream park yep um a lot of the same companies that supported dream park supported our playground um which we call galaxy park yep and um it's really a part for like physically challenged so they can enjoy the playground that's right for all kids and so if they have like physically physical challenges disabilities whatever uh they too can still enjoy the playground and um it's uh we're really excited to have it open we we had the ribbon cutting on october 8th and um i was there you were there that's right that's right michael i almost forgot that that's right you know you helped us cut the ribbon i did i did so uh so no it's um it's a another kind of step in the right direction yeah to make the to make the museum good for everyone we um we also are going to be opening in the next few weeks a new um mother's area there in the children's area mother's room where you know a mom or a dad or whoever if they need to take their child and um change the diaper whatever you know they'll have a very nice comfortable room they can do it in and we're also opening up a room that um is for in the case of sometimes children get a little bit you know uh worked up too much sure a little sensory about that i don't think that was me as a child so we we actually working with caltown pediatrics we have set up a room where um it's designed for a parent to be able to take a child in there and just calm the child down okay and and and get the child back into a good place that then they could kind of come back into the museum and enjoy everything so those are going to be opening up here in the next few weeks we're almost finished with it and uh so we're yeah we're trying to uh we're trying to bring a lot of um new accommodation for children uh of all types well i i that's wonderful i hear you talking about accommodations and are you are there any planned exhibits or new exhibits that you're paying as part of the programming no thank you for the question um so back in june we opened up two new exhibits one that was called a century of clothing and one that was um a the transformation of weaponry and both exhibits uh feature artifacts out of our collection okay out of the museum's collection so a century of clothing you'll see clothing that dates back to the 1800s okay um women's dresses men's clothes etc and in the transformation of weaponry you'll see everything from knives and spears and swords and saber sabers and things like that all the way up to some of the firearms that were used in the 19th century early at 20th century again all coming out of our collection then in september we opened up a um a medical exhibit that has medical artifacts again out of our collection that kind of shows the history of medicine and again it goes back to the 19th century showing the various tools and any instruments and the things that the doctors had to use and also dentists and um and also what they believed you know how they thought the circulatory system worked and the biology of the body and everything and it takes you up to kind of where we are today wow so those are three new exhibits that just the summer you know came online and then most recently on michael we had the uh we call one story one tribe and we feature the robe of synthia and parker yes and of course here in north texas everybody knows the story of synthia and parker quanta parker who was her son uh part of the comancha nation how synthia and was captured as a little girl but she was only nine years old by the comancha tribe brought back to where they lived and um and ended up growing up becoming a comancha um you know part of the comancha tribe right and um married a chief of the of the tribe and had koana and um kind of it was an ambassador too right that's right with the different tribes and with the other people that were around that's right and then um and eventually she was captured by the texas rangers and brought back to her anglo family but uh in all that a robe that she had a bison robe that she had um you know was preserved and eventually came into the museum and we have now put that robe on display at the museum it hasn't been displayed in decades and uh at here and forward that's been it's been um at some of the museums like the comancha tribe has and everything but but it's the first time we've had in the museum in a long time and so so we're really delighted to have that there's there are artifacts about about um native americans about the history of synthia and so um so these are the new exhibits that we have you know four new exhibits and we're working on more we have in fact we have a mesoamerica pottery exhibit that's going to be coming online here right before Thanksgiving that'll feature all the clay and pottery that goes back to the pre columbian pre the discovery pre discovery of north america by christopher columbus and uh so you know obviously very very old artifacts that we'll have on display that's that's amazing i i went and saw the green book exhibit that was there for a little while which is interesting to sort of put in perspective of african americans trying to travel across the united states where they could stay where they couldn't stay you know where they were allowed etc so it's interesting as as we have to know our history to under and understand our history to make sure that we're moving forward you talk a lot about the programming in there but y'all do a lot of outreach too we do in a different way you want to talk about that the office you do in fact to kind of set up the outreach let me talk about the museum school the school you went to yes um so for those who may not be familiar with uh the museum school or even the museum the museum school is how the museum began so if you go back to 1945 when sixteen uh women teachers started the museum what what is now the museum they really started as an after school program okay and uh and so from there it then grew into the children's museum and then grew into the museum what we have today so our our beginnings are in the museum school and everything that we do now is an extension out from the museum school so uh so in addition to all the classes that we offer at the museum for kids that are three four five six years old the classes that you attended etc we also go out to the schools we have a discovery lab that we take out to the schools we have other various programs that that will will go to the schools and basically the idea is how do we bring the museum to the schools and to the kids and some are for the younger kids some are for the older kids but it's taking advantage of all the the products and the capabilities and the teachers that we have and bring it out to the schools that's that's wonderful i would say i probably speak for most of the viewers they really know the museum because of the omni traveling there when there are kids to see omni this in the early 80s i i if i remember correctly it was just a new way of seeing films and in as immersive as you can get and i i know that there you have an exciting project lined up that will replace what was the old omni and and make it a more modern immersive experience for people do you want to talk a little bit about that make it make it a new omni yes yes yes so um so michael to your point i still remember the first time that i went to an i max theater it wasn't here at the omni it was when i was living up in northeast but i still remember my first time going to an i max theater and how impressive it was to see the film and everything so i can definitely appreciate how people feel about the omni and just what a wonderful experience it was so um so as you said the omni was originally built in the early 1980s in fact it was opened officially in 1983 okay and um and it remained open until until the pandemic shut the shut the omni down second grade or something at that at that point is that right um no i can only imagine i had to be a great it had to be a great experience for a second grade for sure and um so the omni um was open all those years very successful to your point and um so when we had to close the omni with the rest of the museum with the pandemic um to reopen the omni became very difficult and it became difficult because uh we lost a lot of the technical expertise um that had you know had left the museum gone on to other things so we lost a lot of that technical expertise the equipment itself had deteriorated a bit um from just you know sort of lying there of electronics equipment if you're not using it continuously has a has a funny habit of deteriorating and um and the theater itself really needed a refresh the seating and and just the whole venue just sort of needed a little bit of modernization so as we as we began to look at that we realized that rather than try to open reopen what we had was there the opportunity here to do a renovation do something new and um and so that was the um the uh initiative that we went down on and what we discovered and pursuing that is that in today's world um i max is kind of yesterday's technology i mean it's projection based technology in today's world you really want to be digital um just like our ipads our laptops our iPhones you want to be digital and there is a company called Cosm that we began working with and they produce literally a digital dome okay and it replaces the i max think of it as the flat screens that you might have in your home or in a conference or whatever think of a dome that's just made up of those flat screens except these flat screens unlike the ones in our homes that are like four feet by two feet these flat screens are 10 inches by 10 inches and they are placed on a steel skeleton that is produced as part of you know this procurement they're placed on that steel skeleton with magnets okay and then of course everything is wired from behind and those uh flat screens that led technology digital led technology projects the image just like your flat screen projects it at home right and therefore you get a tremendous amount of brightness you get a tremendous amount of contrast you get high definition the visual picture that you see is just orders of magnitude greater than what we had with with an i max projection so recognizing you know the how cutting edge you know this technology is we um we we went ahead and started looking at how can we bring this to bear and so long story short we put together a plan to do a complete renovation of the inside of the omni okay one of the things we're going to be doing in that renovation michael's we're going to make it compliant with the american with disabilities at a da and so now those steep stairs with the i max there were not that way at all that yes that's true and and and within the lobby for those who remember the omni within the lobby there were many levels to the lobby so we get rid of all that we get rid of all that it's all going to be one level one level into the precue area and then into the omni itself the omni will still be a theater so it'll still be theater seating right so you're still going to have like those steep stairs on the side but we do have elevators and things like that for people that are in wheelchairs or whatever that um they can access uh the theater with the elevators and i think you talked to one about being a history museum keeping that old part where you can see the the the movies being loaded up and the and the the projector going up into the to the where it into the theater itself and so that would be a kind of a museum that people can see as they're going into the that's exactly right when you when you the way we have it designed when you walk into what'll be a precue area before you walk into the theater and in fact this was true today and in the old omni when you go into that precue area you can see the technicians loading the films and getting everything ready well all that equipment will still be there it'll be behind glass it'll be as you said an exhibit of the of the first generation of technology but of course there will not be anybody in there doing anything because you know this will now be a digital theater but michael i have to tell you what i'm most excited about with making this transition to this technology is that the theater now becomes interactive okay because with this dome we can do anything with this dome that you could do with your ipad or your iphone so whether it's remote streaming whether it's a zoom call you know that type of thing having having people come in remotely to speak to an audience putting up powerpoint putting up other videos you can have multiple windows use it for corporate occasions corporate events conferences you could use it with lecture series sure so the old omni was an omni where you was a theater where you went there to basically watch a movie right watch watch a film in this omni you'll still be able to do that you'll still be able to watch videos and in fact you know you're you're going to see spectacular videos that we'll be able to show in there but in addition to that in addition to that we'll have all these other capabilities that will will truly make the omni multi-dimensional which we believe the original founders the original folks who had division for the omni they gave it that name because they were thinking it was going to be all things well now it really is going to be all things and we're excited about that well we're excited about too is happened last week city passed a resolution to provide some funding i think you're in fundraising mode for this now is that correct we we are we're you know round numbers we're trying to raise around 20 21 million dollars okay and um you know with the with the wonderful gift the wonderful grant that we got from the city and thank you michael of course and and all the other council members of mayor parker and david cook um in addition to that with everything else we've been working we think we're within about three million okay of having all the money raised okay and uh and so we continue to work that very busily um because ideally we would love to get started early next year with the renovation and how long will that renovation take it'll it'll take about 18 months okay so once we get started figure 18 months later we'll be able to open so if we get started at the beginning of next year we're hoping to be open by about the middle of 24 24 so june july of 2024 is when we think we'd be open great well orlando thanks for reading how can people find you if they want to find the museum and what's your website and or maybe they want to donate as part of that sure um the easiest thing would be if you just go online and you do a search on the fort worth museum of science and history uh you'll see our website pop up go to our website our marketing team does a great job of putting all our information out there on the website including contact information etc so that's probably the easiest way to get to us okay appreciate it thank you for being here thank you like yeah of course going to see you great to see you too see you thank you and now i'm happy to introduce to you tarence butler an old friend of mine that is vice president of development for academy four welcome hey good morning michael good morning how are you doing i'm doing well i'm doing well what an honor to be here on your podcast to share about academy four well academy four does great works and i appreciate all you're doing why don't you tell our viewers what is academy four yes academy four is a fourth grade mentoring program it happens during the school day and how we do that michael is we uh go out to local churches in the community and then the community then they actually reach out into the community and get those volunteers so for instance i'll give you an example if there's a hundred children at a fourth grade title one fourth grade school the church normally gets about 60 percent and then they go out into the community and that looks like you know people they work with you know high school students you know people in their neighborhood they reach them they what's the program excellent question we have our own curriculum it's leadership development okay and so we talk often about the math gap and reading gap and those are very very important but what we don't talk a lot about is the relationship gap that social emotional connection that our children need okay and what what it's so important about fourth grade that you do this in fourth grade fourth grade it's really michael it's four things right so children at that age that nine or ten year old age their minds are moving from concrete to abstract thinking so it's the first time they can talk about or think about not talk about but like leadership they're becoming individualistic for the first time so you have you have children yes you know when they're around that nine and ten year old age you know they've they've listened to mom they've listened to dad that's where their morals and values are being shaped but now they're actually like reaching out to others you know for that and so that's why we want to be the positive influence at such a critical time well you know my children and unfortunately i think there was academy one for them or maybe something because goodness ainsley has my dna and my wife's dna fighting it out and she's already already critically thinking about that but i i think what that might lead into is you're starting in fourth grade is you you know they always talk about that you from you know up until third grade you're learning to read right at third grade you're reading to learn absolutely so then you can start introducing these leadership and other concepts in fourth grade is that kind of the idea absolutely and what they've even seen a couple more points about the fourth grade is there's been studies with fourth grade and fifth grade and the fourth graders fared so much better than their fifth grade counterparts and this is funny too fourth graders still like adults and that the erosion of those those those relationships and them thinking they know right everything starts to happen about fifth grade or sixth grade yeah and we're what you're talking about is like how we impact right because we these are title one schools so explain title one school yeah people that very very good that is 60 percent or more students that have free and reduced lunch in those schools okay so let me give you a percentage i believe it's we have about 23 percent poverty in in the u.s so eight out of the 10 students that we serve at academy four or impoverished so that would equal in a 30 person classroom that would be 24 of the 30 students in poverty wow we serve wow yeah and i know you're very active in a lot of my schools in the district i know west cliff elementary one or i know you're active and i think the program is 90 minutes a month right so tell me about that impact that happens in 90 minutes absolutely and i'll even share with you because we get the question 90 minutes once a month how does that you know impact but it does so in those in that 90 minutes the first thing that they're doing is they're doing something we call spark clubs okay and what that happens there is we're sparking that child's imagination we're at jade's hamburgers right so there's a cooking club there and so there's cooking and it shows them how to make meals you know that they can make at home nutritious meals there's stem there's karate we have first tea we partner with first tea so there are several of our schools yeah one of my favorites are the investigators club so we partner with fort worth police and other police forces uh in in in and around tarrant county and canine comes mounted patrol motorcycle police and so the police are interacting with these kids in a fun learning environment you know not when there's you know problem problem yeah and sort of positive parts too for kids can understand all the parts that happen in investigation it might be a dog it might be absolutely other pieces that happen that's awesome that's awesome what else are you doing serving fourth graders how else are you serving fourth graders yeah so you know we have academy four but i want to tell you about other things that we have an academy for because people you know all the time ask us and it's a fair question fourth grade but then they go to fifth grade right and so we worked with teachers in the school and we have a follow-on program and it's called leaders five so the last lesson is serve and leaders are crossing it start with the listen which i know i can do more of and then it ends and serve and so after uh the child has gone through that nine month period in the leadership program they come back the next year and they serve a first grader or a kindergartner in that school and they do that on thursday so they bring a little mini academy for friday to the school we also had you know the question what about middle school you know the the wheel sometimes and you know some of the harder areas start to come off in middle school so we had actually a good way to put it the wheels start coming off in some way shape or form a middle school as i have middle schoolers now but yes right i think i understand that part and so we looked around to see if there was a middle school program that fit what we're doing that we were doing to see if we could come alongside and partner we couldn't find it so we piloted a program at lennard and it's called meet in the middle okay and so we started that this year and it is doing very well and we know that academy four um leaders five you know meet in the middle these children can have like their best day but if they go home to hard circumstances and i want to be clear their parents love them right they're working hard but what tends to happen is you know like i said that that social emotional time is is can be cut short because they have to go to sleep or cook a meal or help the kids with the homework and you know go to bed and so um we have we started something as well and it's called four families so we have uh enrichment for parents okay and we also want to bring wraparound services to help those parents and um that's that was kicked off last year as well and then one of my favorites we've been around 11 years uh and it's called full circle scholars so i said a little earlier that we have high school students that come and mentor in our schools so that um that pipeline or or tier that they came through they they come to uh become mentors excuse me and and they can be juniors and seniors at these local high schools and um if they people that have gone through the program before that's exactly bring them back to help exactly that's why they're called full circle scholars okay and so they come and they do that in their junior and senior year and then they write uh to us for scholarship and so last year we gave out nine twenty five hundred dollar scholarships to those full circle mentors to use to go on to matriculate to college or in a program or something absolutely and several of those students are first gen uh college students that's amazing well i'm glad to hear you over in Leonard i love that school and piloting that program there that's also part of the district and around the las vegas trail area and some of those kids as you said too i love that you said that their parents love them absolutely but time is of sometimes an issue with them they're working multiple jobs just trying to make ends meet and so maybe they don't have all the time uh they should as a parent to make sure they're mentoring so i'm glad these services are available you mentioned some of them but some of who are some of your partners that you're partnering with yeah so we partner with like i said first tea uh kasaminyana uh williams true in uh 3m so there's an array of of different like organizations that we you know hope farm river tree and do they provide financial resources and also time resources where they'll come and help with the programs well that's a great question really what makes up making our budget is you know through some of those companies i name but really through foundations and individuals and if someone want to get involved is there how could they help yeah i always say it's two things to that makes academy for run people and money so they can literally go to our website and i believe that you're gonna just share that and they can also look at all the schools there's 40 schools some of those schools are in austin but most of those schools are in the dfw area so they could go right onto the website and look at those different schools and sign up to be a mentor well great well how can people find you what's the website yeah it's uh www.academy4.org good and you also mentioned too you know uh the greatest gift catalog ever you're a part of that this year absolutely we're getting towards christmas time which we featured them about a year ago which was really really nice so i'm glad you're a part of that this year and and hope some funds will come to you that way too yeah and uh this week thank you for prompting me uh if someone gives through the catalog the the gifts are matched 100% that's amazing so we're we're excited to be partnering with the greatest gift catalog ever good well terrence thanks for all you do i'm proud to call your friend thank you for a long period of time i appreciate all you do in fort worth thank you thank you thank you for joining me today for this episode of fort worth forward come out to jade's hamburgers and try the food it's amazing it's also got great atmosphere as well as donate to academy four and check out the fourth museum of science and history for all their latest exhibits and programming now i'm going to place some cornhole boom still got it