 And Yeah, what night is we're gonna be around for a long time and that's sad, but what are we gonna do? Yeah, in 2023 it was still be around for thought to abuse people on Play fortnight and Thor 3 you never know For Thor 3 already exists. God damn. I Just surprised you do so I just replace it for three with Thor 2 in my mind I'm surprised. You can't play as fat Thor in fortnight. Yeah, I'm Rising Wow, I missed opportunity for more cash. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. I I I remember I played that game I remember playing fortnight like really early on like as soon as the battle royale came out before it was cool to me Well, unironically though Because like at the time people didn't think it was that good and I really liked it at the time I don't so much anymore. I kind of don't like what it represents Wow, I remember just from what I've seen that game is totally Changed into like basically just an amalgamation of pop culture and like features like it's just everything all at once which I Don't know man It's it's funny. You have a movie like ready player one that kind of makes fun of that idea You've got the Oasis which is just like every property all into one It's like fortnight in a lot of ways is kind of becoming that just adding thing after thing into their world Well, the funny thing is is um, I think that ready player one kind of sucks and I don't Know people right like I think it's people like the book That's the reason why the film got made right because the book was really popular, but everybody's starting to turn on that book To a lot of people did not like it's just like this is a not necessary sequel Other ones though because Ernest Klein can't write he just writes pop culture references That's like that's already playing one and stuff is it's just like I Made a DeLorean and it's got like every video game ever It's like when you were a kid and you were making up hypothetical like scenarios about where you'd have the console that Well, like every console ever made in every video game ever made and it's like but that but unironically and it's the cringiest shit That's it's um, it sucks. I don't appreciate genius No, yeah, I think that's your problem for me you guys once I Can't appreciate the genius of Ernest Klein. Yeah You got me there. I'm just secretly jealous of a storytelling talent. You know I wish I could be half as good as us climb Have you guys heard is our slam poetry? So that's like that's like you heard about it No, just thought of it is her Okay, so as the story goes he wrote a slam poem. So he's a very enlightened man and So the poem is about how He he wants like he doesn't want the hot chick who would get on like the front of playboy He wants the girl who reads books and stuff, you know Yeah, it's all oh God, I wish I could remember what hold on. I need to find it. I Just found an article that says before you buy ready player one tickets read Ernest Klein's horrifying porn poetry I It's not even poetry, there's no sense. There's no sentence structure. There's no stanzas or anything. It doesn't rhyme. It's just a speech It's just a rant about porn Appearance I was about to say like the he separates them out right like there's the lines Although it doesn't look like there's any rhyme or reason to that Yeah, I don't I don't understand like how this constitutes poetry when there's no Structure to it at all in the least. It's just him talking. Why must you impose your standards upon this man? And also slam Polish for everybody yells, it's really aggressive and I kind of hate it They're talking so fast that they can't even breathe. Oh, yeah, and they always they really like they heave Emotionalness in everything It's always very like Like emotion Oh motion it makes me stress I Opened up my phone. That was a mistake. Hey It's it'll sometimes show my newest like comment as in like from whatever Yeah video This one's probably worth reading out, I don't know who wants to I was gonna say I get appreciate Caps like monologue delivery sort of thing very straightforward with how funnily it's like presented I'm gonna go through it. Oh, yeah, friends up to you. You know, it's it's really up for grabs They're just snapshot it from my phone legendary Oh gosh, I literally tired of these debates over and over because nobody wants to pay attention to Zack Snyder's DCEU movies and plots that guy Molo is a fool enough not knowing from the storyboards of the whole Sucker There is an arc of five movies on superman each thing such as Kodak's mother boxes saxes With an extra S Zach's idiot no use acts not dark side then invasion retrieval of anti Question nightmare timeline final battle at apocalypse shall be explained and shown in sequel Oh sweet innocent child. So stop shitting on the internet because you have YouTube You have to be like at one point he did something And then dragged away like a bitch like that was his dark side it was the right side where he got hit by the Axe areas is axe Mm-hmm If you if you want to say me or of me, it's our a gs air comma No, there is Do this ahead of time? I'm struggling to do it now. So some of you are we live? Yes Some of you may have seen this on Twitter already, but I know at least rags hasn't so that's a that's a plus Or I don't spoil who hey, maybe I've seen it. Oh, well, I would prefer you didn't so I want to know how you react Oh, I don't know I've I'd oh if I've seen it. I'll pretend to have not seen it I'm currently crafting the image for you cuz I got my guys scribble scribble scribble There's probably a fast way of doing this and I just don't know what it is. It's gonna look pretty manic Well, yeah, so for those who know who said this don't reveal it to rags, okay Or whoever else here doesn't know who it is and then we will have guesses for anybody who doesn't know so basically this was set at some point and I never saw it It was ratio to tad and then apparently did it deleted Before revealing who said it we will talk about the sentiment behind it And then I will also preface I have no idea if they definitely said it so focus on the sentiment and then talk about how you would feel if in a Dimension that the person said it pretty sure they did though Which is fine And we get the whole time off this scribbling. Oh, just just back and forth back and forth got to get that I Just realized it could have been this so much easier for myself. Fuck. I knew there was an easier way that Now I really okay, just ignore me for a second. It's hard being a host I was trying I had it's a tweet right and I was scribbling out the day I was like if I just took an image of what they said, that's all I need to do I Don't need to scribble anything out. It's such a fucking moron. Okay. Here we go So rags if you want to read this I would love to read this. I've never seen this before All right, here we go Anyone who actually watches e-fab is a pretentious devoid of enjoyment dashes to low life Racist oh my those guys. Oh, I mean bad enough. We're pretentious about it, too. You know Those guys are complete jokes People should be able to be people should be able to like what they like without judgment Well, maybe we like certain races and maybe you shouldn't believe that I'm saying oh also don't look at chat any of you Because chattel have the answer to don't don't I'm not a good chat. Yeah, I'm closing right now It's just too blurry over there. It's like those guys are complete jokes People should be able to like what they like without judgment petitions to stop tearing down well-made video Says that people worked hard on Oh that that sentence ended up Being a question and my my my inflection wasn't prepared for that little that that little That subversion of expectations at the end, but he ends it with scumbags So that's a pretty scathing wouldn't you say it's like oh damn 400 411 people like that. Oh my god Well, it would make some sense with the audience they have but I think as time went on more people saw it and This is the kind of stuff that doesn't do too well because this isn't just if ever racist This is anybody who watches it is racist like damn. Oh my goodness gracious. That's a lot of it's a lot of people. Oh Devoid of enjoyment like bro. We don't enjoy We definitely didn't enjoy anything yesterday together. No, no, we definitely don't enjoy. We're not enjoying this This isn't fun. This is hell. Yeah, this is I'm only doing this because my therapist said that I need to confront the things that I hate Yes, so that I could start liking things again. Namely movies my my psychologist Psychiatrist both of them like I love my yeah, my psychos is so Electro shock psychoanalyst. Yeah. Yeah The chair They're both exact Snyder fans and they don't like my positions on Zach Snyder's artwork Well, I fucking any of our positions really Even the person who wrote this surely they're aware that we like tearing down the supposedly well-made video essays, right? So clearly we enjoy some things. There's so much this interesting about all of it because physical low life. It's like damn. How do you Watch out careful It's bad enough that my psychiatrist is making me do this because back when I went to church I told him about how much I love the Transformers movies and they said that they were gonna try and pray the bay away See and that's relevant because they said you shouldn't be shamed for liking what you like And it's just like okay, so that's really not the main thing we do here at all We love loads of things that we think plenty of people would be like you you like that. We're like, yeah, yeah We it we enjoyed multiple movies Hmm Okay, I like these last couple of set those got people should be able to like what they like without judgment first of all You don't believe that. Yeah. No, you know, you know What if I like triumph of the will on ironically he's like, that's fine. That's fine I mean the funny thing is you don't even have to go that far out of sight of what we're covering Like if someone goes I really loved it when Carly blew up that building. He'd be like, uh Those fun those people deserved it the way that they were standing around while someone else told them to guard these supplies from people and I'm glad they got blown up Imagine if someone was watching like 12 years of slave and they're like, I really like it when that girl got whipped That made me happy. You wouldn't just be like Okay, you know, you can like whatever you like, buddy I like that last sentence to petition to stop tearing down well-made video essays All right follow up petition to stop tearing down well-made movies that video essay should on no No, I've got a better one. How about a petition for y'all to start making good fucking video essays on YouTube? How about that? People work hard on these video essays. We shouldn't be tearing them down But isn't that interesting it baked in is well-made video essays and it's like wait, wait, wait, wait Are you suggesting that we can't tell them down if they're not well-made? Fine as well made is there such a Well, they didn't just put the text on screen it kind of wobbled a bit when it was on screen. So they it's pretty well made Yeah But then you get to the the funniest part I guess because the scumbags things seems to have been dropped right after talking about how you're tearing down well video Video essays like it makes me a scumbag to say like all your video essay was shit. Damn, dude. You're standards And Yeah, the the worked hard on so it's like right so now We've got another problem. What if I worked really hard to tear down your really worked hard on thing? But now that was a labor of that. That was that was like I was like the guy who built Auschwitz. Yeah, right? That was a lot of work. He worked hard on that brick by brick He was like, oh, that doesn't happen overnight. This will be a great school And he was like, you know a lot of German engineering and ingenuity went into that complex and yeah It's really hard on he's probably really proud of it when he was done And yet some people have the bulls to condemn it despite the hard work those scumbags Yeah, it's a whole trick to a lot of effort into a life's low life So Who here knows who this was written by I? Do oh is this is this the game where we guess well, I was gonna say I know Jay Longboat knows I assume Evan knows I know yeah, so cuz I can tell it must be amazing because part of a red line is still Kind of on the clip part. Oh, yeah, that was my wasted fucking time trying to scribble out Oh boy So yeah, we'll lock in a single gas from from the three who theoretically shouldn't know who do you think it is rags Someone who doesn't know how Oxford commas work I don't know Is it well is this someone that we've covered? Um, it has to be right. I guess I don't know how much of a clue I want to give you, but I think that's fine Yeah, I'll say we have covered this person on eFat before. Yes hmm Well, I'm gonna guess it's someone popular because they have four hundred and I almost said one one four hundred and eleven Likes mm-hmm, so hmm Cosmonaut all right cosmonaut Fringy, who'd you reckon? I think you're reaching too high there I think cosmonaut would be oh, no, no, no, you never reach too high when you talk about So Goddamn, I have I kind of have no idea because this is a reply. This isn't the opener tweet This is in a like a reply to something else. I think I can tell but I think that's what the format is I don't think he would say this. I think he Um Like he would deem to even mention us by name. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah, that's a good point He wouldn't want to open that can of worms And they don't my guess is What's the name? I am that Roby with that guy whoever that is. Yeah, I'm not Roby. Yeah. Yeah, that's a fair guess Yeah, that's my guess. Is this very recent. Is this recent? Oh, I feel I'm not gonna give you any of those details I just wanted the quote in isolation. I'll tell you everything as soon as the free is locked in again Oh The stress of it all Is it uh, what what was that guy that we talked to about? No, I probably wouldn't be him. Oh, you thought twin perfect, maybe. Oh Yeah He thinks pretentious, so I don't think he calls. Yeah, I think that this he would say this on discord He wouldn't say this on Twitter Probably yeah What's the name of that guy that we talked to about um about Batman v Superman who What was that guy? I was to him perfect one. Oh No, no, no, no the um the guy who came on Been perfect. That was him. Oh You're thinking it's been perfect guy. He wouldn't answer any questions. Yes. Okay. Yes. Oh, I think matters Um, don't worry. You don't actually lose anything if you get this wrong Call I'll go for him then all right twin perfect Cosmonaut or I am that wrong. No, I don't even think cosmonaut anymore Take your time. Take your time. This is important for sure. I don't know Trying to I'm trying to think of what could have Who hates us that much I know just like I don't feel like brown I feel like brown table wouldn't Wouldn't say this. He didn't see the type. Yeah, I'd agree with that. There's some big words in there that are spelled correctly Man, I don't know there's so many potential culprits Yeah, well, you know Just just whoever you want right just go go with a lock in of any kind Is is it gonna surprise me? Who knows? Oh, um So, well tell me who it is and then I'll be able to I'm trying to think of names in my head of who it could be that we've covered Like I was I just so meant to high top We've covered. Yeah, the guy called. Oh, it could be high top. That's that seems like something you'd say Yeah, I have the I have the filament Filmento high top brown table Kind of they're like a weird trio in my head for whatever reason um I'm gonna go with hi Oh, I don't see I don't think high top would call other people pretentious I think he's a little bit self aware What locks up the gate? I beg you Okay Filmento, I'll go with filamento. All right so, um I actually More so like caught this because it was posted in discord and I saw efat first and read it And then I looked at who wrote it and I was genuinely like, oh damn Is uh, this was written in january apparently And um, it was uh, booped by the the the person who wrote it apparently Because they got a bit of pushback as you can see with them. They deleted it This was an hour and they've already got that many retweets. So that's a lot Yeah, it might be that people are not happy with this sentiment. Um, and yeah, they deleted it and since then I've actually had like, you know bits and bobs of back and forth a little fun stuff between them I was never shown this And so like I said before I show you who actually wrote it. I wanted to um It could be that they haven't there's a very very slim chance that they haven't but this was the original screenshot Da da Wow, no way Sweet little brown table said that Wow, I thought he wouldn't yeah, I didn't think you would say this Do I think I've watched it in january and it was just one of those things where I was like Usually he's really chill on twitter like I follow him and he's like he seems like a nice guy It's like he's it's very approachable like I'm not a fan of his videos But it's just like he yeah, he's he's not yeah, he's not a bright Boy and he's his videos are really shit and he's horrific at his job and his enemy's gonna suck But I didn't think that he'd like do that Oh my goodness. I didn't think he would I Generally calling anybody who watches this on e-fap anybody watches e-fap is racist like damn, dude This is like even movie Bob doesn't go this far You know this was in reply to this this could be in reply to like high top or something like that Well, I don't know if this is can you guys tell this is a reply not on main tweet? I'm I'm so Um, it's this randomly would wouldn't this be in reply to someone else if I figure oh So the reason why uh, I've been told that this opposed is because of our coverage of high top wonder woman video Um, oh, and I think he would have been upset that we did that Why well For the same reason they always are free because you shouldn't ever go against any video essays They are expressions of the self wonder woman is kind of wonderful Yeah, his he was a crazy video. It's absolute nonsense. He was really terribly written and put together There was loads of horrible arguments. He ignored loads of stuff from the films He loved the film itself. He enjoyed the events of the film, but he didn't really uh Acknowledge a lot of the writing in it so that he didn't yeah, if you think wonder woman it it's one of those Films I we should come up with a name for it like a Like a category of films where if it kind of it kind of feels dirty calling wonder woman maybe for a film Um a movie It's just it's just a movie if you really like a movie like that It just instantly disqualifies you from having your opinion on movies taken seriously I as this case would be it's like if you think that the falcon and the winter soldier potential segue is Good segue. Well, wait, did you stop? No, it's there for you Enjoy it because I enjoy wonder woman 84. Oh, no, no, no not not enjoy if you think it's good Well, yeah, yeah, like if you think structurally And you know plot narrative and character wise if you think that it's good Or if you think it's a masterpiece even worse But no one would say that surely if you think if those things like oh, you can't talk about like this craft This whole thing was gonna be real hard and then you just can't talk about it because the second you try to make any claims about Continuity is you're like, wait, did you say what would it be for had a really strong costume? You're like, yeah, it does fight me Like all right, just I reflect just to remind everyone wonder woman 84 is a film in which everybody on the planet earth Wishes for something and then is convinced through What gal Gadot's acting? Yeah To give it up to give up everything that they wish for the whip of truth Allows them to Understand that the truth is beautiful and that they need to let go of the lies that are their wishes Even though they're not really lies because they're actually like things that happen and are permanent as long as you don't unwish them A wish is a lie moller. Damn it That's really just cancer the messages you pull out of that feel but awful It's like don't wish for things. You're like, what why what? We all we all have like this think of the movies that like of the opposite of that all the christmas movies are pretty much the opposite of that Wish for it make it happen This hilarious was wrong with wishing for Bruce Wayne wishing for his parents back. Don't live a lie You little shit. Yeah, the kid from liar liar should just accept that his dad's a liar Or the liar from kid kid Um The eyes wanted to mention don't know for sure that he wrote it. Uh, I haven't gotten confirmation anyway And he's obviously deleted it if he wrote it, but uh, if it did come from him very lame um lame in general The damn brown table and it's funny because people like you could cover the brown table and high tops coverage of Falcon the widow soldier. I'm like, are they just like the go-to every single time something horrible comes out They're like, you know by default their position will be the just the flat out wrong one You will share more like choice quotes from high top where he had a tweet where he's talking about watching his own video on Batman forever How he was crying Like seriously the two of them their legends in the video essay community because they're just so they do everything I like I noticed as patterns. They're so iterative as creators. They have to break out sometime Like I believe in them one day Crying at your own video this reminds me of like when somebody says that they're writing a story and they're like I was shedding tears like as I wrote down this stuff. It's like no, you won't or if you were like What a narcissist kind of You're the one dude. It's like you made it. Why would you cry? I just man, I can't relate You guys don't cry when you watch e-fap. It's like no everything That's just because your videos aren't aren't good enough to where you can watch them and bring yourself to tears over your own Man, you know, you're your own incredible talent. It's like most of the time when I watch something I'm just sort of sitting there like, you know, just pretty stationary Well, yeah, this is it. I'm consuming this. Mm-hmm Yeah Oh Yeah, uh for those who like where's where's drinker? He said he's gonna be here at any moment He's already a part of this group. So he'll literally just pop in and it's gonna be horrifying It's gonna be right there We could be in the middle of talking about any subject relating to this talk of this this show and just drop right in Speaking of which we should probably move on to because we're gonna be here for a while tonight I imagine the smart thing to do I think whenever we have a topic like this It's just you know, get a blib from everybody right like a general take on the show because everyone's seen it Everyone's discussed it here and there on on twitter and this is You know a good way to set at the baseline I guess we'll go left to right. We typically do meaning myself and rags are lost I'm wonderful have anything insightful to say by the time everyone else has done rags. I don't know Yeah, I'll have to rename myself Ah rags Yeah, I'll get to go first We have a number that I can go before them even I'll just go zero more than zero look really cool and I'll be first. Anyway cap. How you doing? Welcome back and uh, oh, thanks. Thanks for having me. What did you think of falcon and the winter soldier? I thought it was pretty bad. Oh, I thought it was if it weren't for the social commentary. It might be just kind of Lame and mediocre, but Oh, the the the messages and the social commentary in this are like among the worst I've ever seen It's incredible. I hated it. Especially the ending that little speech. He goes on on television was like the hackiest Stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. You didn't learn anything Oh, I learned a lot, but none of what they wanted me to learn. I think damn it Uh, it was not good and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. All right, evan. Welcome back You with the last time you were here for a Wanda vision There you go. It's like what's shit today. Like it's the newest marvely thing. It's like, yay Oh, I should say just superhero thing at this point What did you think of falcon and the winter soldier? I didn't like it too much. It uh, it is a really meandering story It's just like they add so much like that they cannot develop in like the span of six episodes and it's just It's scatterbrained throughout and there's a lot of problems that are presented because of how they structure it and how subplots are organized and Like cap a lot of my issues come from the messaging like How they present the idea of what captain america represents and like what certain characters say about it and What what they're what they leave you with at the end. It's just like this is not good, dude This is not good a good message to be sending your audience All right Uh fringy nice to see you as per usual. How you doing? Yeah, what did you what did you think of falcon and the winter soldier? so um When episode four came out, um, and There was that shot with the blood on the shield And then I saw on twitter that everybody was saying like oh, this is horrible. How could he do this? um, I got really depressed because one of the lessons that I think became very clear to me while I was watching falcon and the winter soldier is That the show can communicate to you What they are saying is like the true interpretation Um with music and shots and stuff like that and the meta and then everybody kind of just bites into it um and and then By episode six when john walker saves that truck full of people People start realizing that maybe they were wrong and I just feel like incredibly despondent about that because it's like depressing to me that that for a lot of People engaging with media is well, this is what the show told me is true. So I just kind of accept it That was really depressing. Um, I hate this show All right, that's one of those That was like that was like the little scumbag at the end. I hate this show. Yeah, I appreciate those I do like I do um Wanda vision is worse, but like god damn. I hate this show Like Welcome back jay longbone. How do you do? Hello Um, I've heard you've seen this show recently from marvel called the winter falcon and soldier man. What did you think of it? It's rectal vomit, um Oh no I hate this shit. See, um, um I've been noticing this trend in hollywood where every This kills me every Show with a black lead has to have Racist cops like rolling up on them in one at least one scene. It's become So tropey now that it's almost fucking funny. You know, I'm porn When like the the couples just so happens to walk into a room with a bed or a couch Oh, yeah, that's how this is with black characters like every room they fucking walk in just happens to be a racist cop I'm ready to like to put a knee to put a knee on their neck or some shit. It's Like they're treating dive a heart attack Yes, but they always like they treat this they treat this shit like it's Oh, they want it. They act like it's serious But like they just treat this shit like a like some kind of like movie trope and it's really aggravating It's the same thing with falcon in the winter. So like you I thought I wouldn't have to see it in a fucking marvel property But here we are Yes, like I think I have to agree with capital O If it hadn't been for their really shitty political Messaging like it would have been like meth like mediocre or meth It's but it's kind of like how batwoman is now With me That they just do this shit because they got nothing else to talk about They don't know how to make a hero story So they just resort to this shit and they think well this passes as storytelling, right? People like it because we attract the people the type of morons who will Just accept this little black little black people get discriminated against. So, you know, it's true That's a lot a lot of what the marvel fans When I would live tweet about it what I would get into an argument with them about like, oh It's no it's fine because like black people get harassed by cops. So it makes perfect sense. Well But like like completely forgetting about all the other factors the fact that uh Sam is world famous and an Avenger And all this shit and the fact that it happened directly after We brought in the racial element of the story. It's like it was like On cue it's fucking horrendous. I hate this shit Yeah, it feels like a little bit of a different universe we walked into it's like, wait, I don't remember all this stuff It's like, well, that's the way it is now and you're like, oh, okay Uh, so myself I uh, I actually just think it's Goddamn downright poorly written from start to finish There is a myriad of issues in every single scene everything that they wanted to do is built on Good old-fashioned matchsticks, but I don't think that they even you know had the structure of a matchstick to begin with um A lot of the motivation to do a lot of what they did was entirely like How do you even talk about this show that being like, okay, so they were telling me uh that I need to do better Like it's a bit weird. Is it you like with regards to what you're like? Well, all the things they brought up, right? It's like this this shit tons that um The the efforts to uh because it's something we all will talk about it's like Oh, I want my villain to be still a bit sympathetic to understand why they do what they do I don't think I've ever had Like I have you guys watched anything with with the protagonist simps for the the villain as hard as falcon did Jesus man Well the very end of black panther was a little like that too, yeah Yeah, there's definitely A little bit, but that show is still that maybe still acknowledges that he is like a villain Sorry, you could say there is an acknowledgement of college. This is worse for sure. Yeah It's just not enough and well, uh, I don't know if anybody's bringing it up yet But uh, I believe that falcon was completely like sam was was completely destroyed like he's been assassinated thoroughly Yeah, he's done as a character. He's finished. It's over bucky's gotten a couple of issues too There's a couple of scenes that really fuck with his uh, who what I understand about him and who he is Zemo was like fine I I even thumbs up some stuff then I middle thumb some stuff Uh, but walker was the standout character the hero of the story and the guy who I actually would be invested in seeing more of Assuming he's handled by somebody who has a brain instead of What nearly happened in this season? Um walker is the giga chad of this. Uh, yeah Um, and there's so many references to go through but yeah, uh, the big pattern I noticed upon the second watch through was that, um Is a problem for a lot of writers apparently more and more I notice as I watch more stuff, but they don't seem to realize that action scenes are Always indicative of character rather than just when you think they are So for example when he when he pulls the truck the writers are away Ah, this action scene shows something about his character. You're like, yes, it does Hands down there Casual action scenes where for example the dora melange throw a spear at walker Before they've even spoken to the people in the room and he dodges it narrowly when it's heading to his face Um That tells you a lot about them immediately. That's very very bad. They are villainous. They're horrible psycho bitches And then you ask them almost killing lamar and uh, walker while bucky and uh, falcon are laughing It's like, hmm I know that you thought you were having fun writers because mcu sludge Ah, let's have some fun while the action's going on, but it's like, oh, this is terrible My these guys are supposed to care about human lives And these are guys that saved their lives a few episodes prior. So like, oof, this is really bad It is really bad There's a lot of stuff like that throughout I'm not going to just list them all here because we'll be doing a bit of a jump through but this this season is riddled And uh, it's embarrassing because it's so clear what they were trying to do And I just call it like good old-fashioned just immature writers trying to like be like, oh, you know I know how to make meaningful arcs because You know, you know bucky's sad and there's this guy he needs to tell that he killed his son Uh skip forward five episodes. All right, he does it There I did it knock I'm so good at this I'm so fucking and then someone posts a screenshot of when he doesn't tell him and then when he does tell him And then go that is cinema Be a USA out there talking about like how his journey builds to him telling him and it's like this Heartbreak moment. It's like dude. Come on It's just like point a point b In no build-up like this is just two points that he has to get to with nothing in between Oh, and I love the way it's edited too. Like he says like I oh, why'd you do it? It's like I had no choice and it's like well, then it isn't really an apology Choice my friend like I know you were brainwashed like talk about that a little bit more Oh, yeah, the choice it's like dude, I like to imagine he literally left after saying that that they didn't flash for it He just literally left at that moment. There's a pause. He just goes we cool No hard feelings, right And yeah, there's this sentiment that like he's going to need the closure of knowing what happened to his son I'm just sitting there like I feel like you're gonna make this worse when you tell him that you killed him like, uh Are you fucking with me? I'm just gonna find out that his grief was a lie that he was grieving for the wrong reason and his son was actually murdered It's just like dude, I This might not work the way that you think it will work and the show just never addresses those types of questions Where it's like is telling these people are gonna help like in the long run. What helps me so that's all that matters Yeah, like it takes away my night It's like ah good for you bucky While giving him all new ones Yeah, and that's the thing we don't even get to talk really much at all about any of that because we just get so Little of it. It's like what is it that keeps him up at night? Exactly. And what is it that he gets from these people once he gives them the information they lacked that helps him sleep at night What is it? What keeps him up at night is the knowledge that he can get his arm taken off by crazy like Also, he reacts when the arm gets taken off. He's just like Why'd you do that? He's just like confused and lost like that can damn him It's like damn you for preventing me from stabbing this man I'm sorry They have uh, they have bust damn him. They're they're they're Anther god that's top tier condemnation right there. I feel like the panther god would be like, hmm, nah I'm not sure about you guys. I don't know. I think the white devils might be right this time. I don't know It's a tough one to claim. I have a point So, yeah, uh rags. What did you think of the show? So Recently particularly in the MCU we've had a lot of bad stuff in a row We've watched a lot of bad movies in a row and there's been a lot of other bad shows in a row Um, and I know we're devoid of enjoyment so I went The problem with being asked um Like what what I thought of the show Is that it's like if you know, you know Remember the first time You if this has happened to you think back search your memories for the first time that you heard Like a like a close family member Say the word fuck Right and you and you've never ever heard them like they never really swear ever um, and then all of a sudden just one time They just get so upset and fed up or for whatever reason they actually say fuck out loud And your brains are holy holy crap my aunt my sweet auntie Who'd you never never swears has has said the f-bomb In earnest and you're like wow, I can't believe it because they never swear I want to avoid well We say a lot of things are shit Because a lot of things are a lot of things are really really bad A lot of shows a lot of movies are horrible And I feel like we're just going to go through at least in broad descriptions saying the exact same thing together Like we're just going to say It's terrible and it's awful and the characters are bad and the story's bad It doesn't make sense and it ignores continuity and the morality is super skewed inside of it um And I don't want to keep saying things are horrible and I don't want that to lose its meaning when it comes from us um So I guess if I guess In a way that no other show Or really movie recently has made me feel This show makes me angry with how bad it is the way that it's bad the um the The way that it's constructed the attitude that the people have who make this and the messages that they're trying to put out And the things that get heard along the way because of it The the continuity they have to mess around with This this made me angry like when we finished episode four We were like pissed That the show was doing this it it's bad enough that This show was created that there's someone out there or many people out there who put this together who constructed this um It's bad enough that there are people who have such little writing talent. They have anti talent. They're actually Worse at it than most people probably would be they're so shit at writing They could land jobs with these massive shows and fail upwards spectacularly Maybe the worst part of it is that there are people out there who think that this is good And I think that's probably what depresses me the most I think well, it's it's almost worse as well because I know why I think you you all know why it's like Oh, it's so emotionally resonant in all of the payoffs that were so clunkily plopped together in uh and and how it how it resonates with me because it's uh very Very succinct social commentary that really really gets to your heart when you understand that these are real And you're sitting there like wow, it's so easy for them to do this these days like Um, and they and it's working right because if they if this makes all the money Then it's like well continue whoever wrote this you should write captain america 4. It's like This this is what I've said before I'll say it again and this show only proves my point further The reason that everything's going to be crap in the future I mean not everything a lot of things most things is the case seems to be The reason that your shows are going to be bad and your character is going to be ruined and your plots Aren't going to make any sense. Nothing's going to matter. Nothing's going to be substantive and earning or earn anything is because the the absolute maroon who wrote this is He's getting his own movie now. It's going to be like 200 million dollars of some shit They people don't the it's not just normal people because they don't normal people don't they're just not good at this They don't think about it. I think once you get them to think about it Most people will be fine with it But a lot of people don't think about moot. They don't even think to think about movies in the way that you know You do in the audience or we do here on the panel lineup um but the people who Provide all the money the you know the the disney people and the Is like all the people who make the decisions who pass out the jobs and assign the writers to the things They don't know what good is They don't know what the good is to aim towards So if anything is good, it will be coincidental. It will be as if by accident something has become good Because they don't know what to shoot for it. It's like someone it's like someone at a A firing range who doesn't know where the target is They just do things like well, I know I'm I'm now I'm supposed to I'm I'm supposed to shoot the gun Is the equivalent of well, I know we're supposed to have this emotional scene of the character Okay, I'll put that in here. I guess like well, I'm not supposed to I'm now I'm supposed to load the gun like oh I know there's supposed to be a Dramatic scene here with the antagonist. I'll put I'll put that over here And then maybe if they just do all the right things In some way, it'll just end up being a bullseye but And for those who are curious because some people are like way What was the point about the the aunt with the swear words? The point is if we keep saying everything is terrible even though it is It's gonna lose its potency just like the aunt constantly saying fuck suddenly who'd be like, oh, that's weird But unfortunately it's been a really bad couple years for Yeah, um I feel like a funeral director, right? So like if if you're a funeral funeral director And you're on a funeral home and people say how's business and you're like business is great I mean a lot of people died That's how that's that's e-fap is it's it's the funeral home for bad media Which means we should probably get into references. I suppose we'll start this train Well, we don't need references. We have opinions. That's all it matters. I was gonna say it's pretty well listed That's that's all of our takes and if you're like what the show is incredible It's like, well, I guess it's time to show you why we think what we think Uh, because that's that's how you typically would do it, right? No, if you think that this show is good You're a fool Well, I was um strong fighting with yesterday. I found a video that was actually I need to stop playing Tetris in order to Not jumble this up I uh, I was I was listening to a video that was about, um Have you guys heard of the book of five rings? No, but I've heard the legend of the ten rings I've heard of max magician and the legend of the rings um I haven't heard of any of these so Man, there's more stuff. I need to so It's um, it's it's written by Miyamoto Musashi who was like a a ronin who who went around japan and fought 60 people and never lost or something like that um And I was I was listening to a video where um This this guy he wrote down a list of all of his little rules for uh for life And um a few of them focus on the fact that just because you feel something doesn't mean that it's particularly Worth a while and that indeed it can lead you astray. It's just interesting to think about that This ancient wisdom on maybe just because you felt something that doesn't mean anything I see what you're saying to think about it more You felt this was bad and that might be meaningless because it's probably because remember your gut feelings They serve a purpose when you were out in the savannah picking berries and hunting down Lions it doesn't necessarily serve you well when you're watching a movie Especially when the person who constructed all of this was specifically seeking to evoke these emotions So that you don't think about how deficient everything is because that's kind of what it is It's like a big teddy bear, but if you pick it up the landmine explodes and you die Yes, kind of like what this is Yeah, because the interesting thing about that is that I think a lot of like the brown table types would be like What do you mean every writer every filmmaker is trying to evoke an emotion? It's like correct Which means we can't just judge it by that. We have to go by what they actually gave us, right? and then probably like Sure, like cool So let's talk about whether or not everything they did lines up because whether or not they try to you know When he brings kali's body down with his angel wigs to Someone might feel they were trying to evoke evoke a particular emotion there and I would be like I don't know what you're talking about. I I just saw it as yeah, you know He's just delivering the delivering the body Totally fine like if so wanted to try and argue that So I'd be like so let's look at kali, you know And I've seen on twitter people be like being a little bit harsh to kali Aren't you like you have to agree like she has a point. That's the whole thing with falcon. She does have a point And I I wonder if they've ever like experienced just Like does the emperor have a point? Maybe the rebels are causing too much trouble. He might have a point I am I'm so very happy Go ahead I was just gonna say technically everyone has quote unquote a point and like I think bucky even confront sam About like the ends justifying the means and I forget what he says, but it's like it ends there, dude The ends do not justify them Well, it's um, it's like I cannot believe that the show is more sympathetic to carly than walker Yeah, it's insane It's dude how hot he has to work to get not as far as her in terms of appreciation Like he he gets like a thumbs up from the show. She gets a clap Yeah, the show is very reluctant to have you walking away thinking that the murderous terrorist villain Is a bad person. You gotta stop using words like terrorist rags. That's what I learned He just kind of asked yourself why You need to stop using terms I'm with a very specific meaning I don't yeah refugees the weirdest one because that's just categorical And I don't think any refugee would be against being called a refugee. They'll be like, yes I am a refugee isn't a pejorative term. It's a descriptive term. Well, so is terrorist It's it ends up being pejorative because you have to do bad things to get that term applied to you Meanwhile, you're all nazis just fyi as far as I'm concerned. Um Good no need to understand anyone's perspective. Who's a nazi that's why they broke too far They went over the line. I'm I find it very amusing that people said that he was japanese red skull Wait, who was japanese red skull? Sorry, uh, damn it. I Miyashi that Musashi Clean your dojo. I think I saw somebody Exactly So, yeah, uh, the show opens with him being Replaying that good old line from the uh, the end of endgame where he's like, oh boy. I don't know if it belongs to me And uh day long when I caught your video. I thought it was great where you've kind of retconned Endgame at least to a degree. I'm sure most people would understand this the The atmosphere at the end of endgame Like man, thank you for giving me the shield the thing that like the guy with the shield That I got that's a lot of I'm taking on a lot and I'm gonna do you proud. Meanwhile in this it's like This is a white guy's thing In the endgame it's an endgame. It's so hopeful And it's like it's a done it's a done deal like he's gonna be captain america But in the show in the opening it's like it's so morose and like It's a burden now. It's a misinterpreted like Captain america seemed like he's so like spooky old white man Burdening this poor black man with a shield It's hilarious. I'm so sorry to put this on you, you know expecting you to be hero and everything He says like it feels like it belongs to someone else That's just like a humble line that is like it's belonged to you for so long and cap says it isn't and it's just like It's because he believes in him, but it's like they they they change it They like twist his words just the right amount. So it's like, eh, maybe he thought this it's like I don't think that's what endgame is going for No, it feels like it belongs to someone else it isn't nigger You know we can't get in trouble because she's allowed so is fringy fringy go nuts No, I'm good So, uh, we then kind of to what already just starts presenting issues It's like falcon is doing some kind of contractual work for the government. It's like, oh I I don't are we gonna get any weird on like how they got reintegrated Was there any trouble with the accords because he was a vigilante and then he got popped and then he's back Was there any no? All right. Yeah, he's working for the government again. Okay. It's like just aping the beginning of winter soldier Yes Yeah, so I mean if we're gonna if we're gonna kind of start off there You need to understand everyone that the show Every character and what they're doing and why they're there and on whose authority All of these things exist in this weird ather of ambiguity Why why are they here? Why are what who sent them? All this stuff Do they are they allowed to be here or who who enabled them to be here? Well, if you're the questions that don't The g.r.c.'s answer goal is to reset borders. That's what they want to do And that's what our villains are trying to stop them from doing But as far as I can tell in every single, uh, scene where they travel anywhere at every single actual scene Action scene that borders are up and active Yeah, yeah, the world building is pure nonsense Yeah, because people in a functioning world so borders will exist There's well, so yeah, we'll probably get on to that at some point But I I find it laughable that they're like we gotta get rid of borders. It's like you fucking nuts And why after the the blip Did borders go away? Why and how? um That's actually something I have a little less trouble believing Uh, because when you get rid of half of humanity another probably half of what remains is gonna die pretty quickly after that Like from all kinds of different reasons. Fringy's probably gonna have a fucking half out part of his video about it It's gonna do A lot of damage to a lot of people now. Do we get post apocalypse anarchists sort of shit going on? It's like maybe we there's probably a lot of things that could happen when you need like an expert in, um I don't know everything to tell you exactly how everything would go down I think I said before because gizak could make a probably a pretty good video about it Like what would happen to the will if half of the people were just taken? Um, because this is the thing it's so indiscriminate, right? Like the think of the people in hospitals that will die because half of the doctors are just suddenly gone like uh-oh And uh, and also just government half of that means that statistically speaking half of the like leaders of each country You know will die, but what but think of all the people who will live because half the assassins in the world disappeared Um, so yeah, uh, could I envision a world where there's no real countries anymore because it's so chaotic? It's like, uh, maybe I don't know. It's yeah, we don't see that. That's for sure. Oh, certainly well, um, which is part of the problem Uh, we we went over how anybody who's writing any stories post endgame is gonna be fucking furious with the rusos Thanks guys. I have no idea how to deal with this. Um, but none of them have been trying so far None of them have given a shit Far from home was like we want to do our story. Can we just say it kind of just functions? It's like, oh, okay One division was like We're in a town who cares it's whatever it's whatever's going on out there Okay, and then this show was like, yes, it was horrible But everything's normal really They've been like everything functions just fine, but it was horrible It's like did nothing change in terms of like the government or how Society function at all or did everything just work out and then when everyone came back everything was normal it's just Well, here's the thing if the world is drastically different then the social commentary won't work Because then it can't be a commentary on our current world So you remember there was a throwaway line like sycovia got absorbed by all the other countries State anymore How would you feel was the sycovians to know that your country got blown up because of the avengers And because of the new avengers your country no longer exists Because i'm convinced and not to change the borders. So your country has been deleted by the avengers And it's something that we never get any information from or of all the history all of that just yeeted poof Nice sycovia Yeah, and and you could easily see a zemo type doing what Uh, what carly does in reverse like fucking get those policies to get the borders back Or i'll blow all of you up and then falcon's like, you know, we have to listen to them. I have a point And it's like wait, but wait like now what do we do? It's like poland. Yeah kind of so, um It's really really really confusing and I don't I think this is the most we'll ever get for all of them They want to get right into telling their stories They can't be asked to get the connective details that bring us in and i'm Okay with opening with an action Thing and then contextualizing it and gradually over the season building that world, but they do not do that They're just like fuck it. I don't know the grc have Like the most control I think I don't know. Yes the global repatriation council And their job is to try and just get everything back to normal They have to restate borders. They have to move resources around. They have to make sure fucking systems are in place That's all i've got. I don't know Is that it this is like are they are they essentially the american government? It's like kind of I think so They're like the un stand-in kind of yeah because they have leaders from around the world As a as a this seems like a new un and their job is to try and look after the world Like oh wow that's a lot of pressure I'm just i'm just watching this fight scene that you've got playing here Where sam kills all these people without a second thought Yeah But then he won't fight carly He won't that is well soldiers who are infinitely dangerous It's phenomenal that he kills so many people in this season not to mention the mcu as a whole and carly he refuses to that's I don't like to skip around But like that was one of the last things I saw today as I was rewatching that episode It is this is part of the biggest assassination for me is that he's cradling the villain as one of his best friends behind him Is bleeding to death Meanwhile, he just kicks this. Yeah, it's insulting honestly. It's horrible. It's not sam Saving his life, you know the psychopath had a gun on him and she shot him and saved him. It's like, yeah, okay Yeah, I'll leave you bleeding as much as I don't I don't want anybody going but Sharon's evil It's like he doesn't know that ignore on it. Just keep that out of your head. Okay? He don't know it. He doesn't know any of that Well enough, even if he did know like well It's more complicated so I'd rather not even mention it because it's just not what happened Right, but like he doesn't seem to give a shit about Sharon and that's confirmed by so much to talk about I should probably stick with the scene we're on So much We're gonna rabbit hole of despair So, yeah, like, uh, what I guess I wanted was more wheel building because Jesus Christ I thought this was going to be the one I I figured far from home was like, no, we're not gonna We're not we're not going to do it. It's like, okay. Wanda vision is like, no We're not doing it. We're doing a reality TV show thing. You're like, okay So what Falcon mosa you guys are like a sequel to one of the most grounded movies in the MCU or several of them You guys got to be the ones to do it, right? And they're like, well We gave it a shot We gave it one draft. All right, that's the most we could be bothered Um, and so I don't even know when to bring this up But I mean you kind of have to write you're like, oh man, he's got his um His wings I think are upgraded since we've last seen them. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but they're obviously brand spanking new Um, he has red wing that is equipped with like a mini gun a laser and rockets. It's like damn. That's good. It's got x-ray Basically what I'm saying is he is kitted out with stock tech. They describe it as stock tech. So I assume Pepper is the one who's organizing this. I don't know Another thing we never find out about of course because they want to pretend like the whole world is just the characters in this season Um, and so naturally your brain might go man completing these really high octane Missions for the government with technology that is kind of revolutionary and in just his hands. He must be loaded Yeah, he's doing all this. Yeah Like in the government like surely lots of money and not just his current job But I mean the people that he knew who ran the avengers who did all this stuff I mean how how could this guy with as famous and important and well known as he is with people Just recognizing him here and there Like man, how may this guy's got everything this guy was he must want for nothing Right And so yeah, uh, I guess I don't want to spend too long talking about this action Seeing because so much to get through but like it's really flimpy Uh, the falcons really experienced at this point and I remember when uh, when freaking was like, oh The episodes are out, you know, we can watch three in a row Myself rags and and frames like oh that's gonna be great Put it up and we're a little bit confused just like context, but you know, that's fine Because it's like they'll explain it. This is just the opening action scene The first thing falcon does is poke his head through the fucking pilot's window like, uh That's probably not a good idea, dude. Take away the element of surprise. It's like And when you're on a stealth mission to try to attack and maybe somebody would say well Idiots, what's he supposed to do? He needs to see inside there. It's like, it's not like he has like an extra vision or something Like what the what? The funny thing about is uh, his vision that I noticed I think it was almost second watch through or something but it it literally tells him signal matches for hostiles and friendly Count what does that say? Count you think I would just say like friendly and unknown instead of just declaring them hostile because it doesn't recognize who they are Like how many people died because of that? I um, I supposedly just decided like like if they have guns or if they look If they have aggressive body language the hostiles like all right redwing if you say so they're scowling so um So yeah, uh, he could have just done this to open with and and what's funny is like he gets spotted and we were like But then the pilot isn't believed. He's like, oh, there was nothing out there. It's like You Try to stop us right now Not only was uh, was there clearly a person there that he saw but it's falcon. Do you not know falcon? He's like one of the most famous superheroes on the planet. It's falcon I don't know if you went oh boss who would be the avenger they send if if they were to send is like Or even if they were to theoretically of course If they were to send in any of the avengers in their current roster after us right at this moment Who do you think that it would be the person named falcon? Perhaps? I don't know Might just be thinking aloud. I know I should be focusing on flying the plane doing whatever it is We're doing but uh Good now, but yeah So yeah, there's like at least two other times in the show where people should take the element of surprise And then they just don't for no reason like there's a you know and bucky Jumps onto one of the trucks and there's a truck right behind him. Yeah That highway scene was when I was basically like shows dead after the highway scene was over So Which is one I mean it's already awful by this point, but at the very end When walker like he burst through a door really loudly and then started sneaking around Yeah, they do they do do it a lot. It's funny. Um So this scene is filled with closing the distance a common infection in a lot of action. Yes I hate it so much Wait, you can't fire your gun with unless you were in a two meter distance. Well, yeah movies have an issue If guns introduce a lot of logistics issues If you want to have a if you want to have a show About melee combat where people are punching and fighting In a world where guns exist and are very effective as it seems to be the case You have an issue as a writer where you have to keep that in mind when you're writing your scenes And this is often unfortunately remedied by lazy ass idiot writers deciding, you know what I'm just gonna I'm just gonna have the guys with guns Just run up towards the person they want to shoot while not shooting so that they can be disarmed And then they could start punching each other brilliant I am a talented human being and we have a solution for this Attach a bayonet to the pistols run it right into them. Okay guys If you're gonna do the rest of it anyway, just keep going and and you might get them Because they're not even pistols anymore. Okay, they're just they're just kind of metal blocks that they have their hands on um The one time someone does though, and that's what makes this so funny Falcon pulls up his big wing defense system and so the bullets bounce and they travel So they hit his thing they bounce off. They pierce The cockpit door slash wall and then they go into the pilot killing him through the seat as well I remember So when this happened all three of us were like Oh So yeah, falcon forgot there was another soldier the soldier starts shooting at him and uh They deflect off of falcons wings into the This is the thing. I don't know how many walls that's traveling through because There's I think it was a staircase up to the pilot area because I'm because you were saying that it breaks the cockpit Now I'm pretty sure that even in commercial planes That shit is thick like That I wouldn't ever let alone a deflection like a ricochet from a bullet like the velocity would slow down I don't think it was I don't think it was ricochet I just think that it just so happens that this guy shot two times and two bullets went through the pilot seat And I'm like wow They just wanted the they just wanted a ticking clock. They just needed a reason from the plane So they said oh the uh the pilot get shot twice by zone dude. Oh just to add to that What do you what do you mean? It wasn't ricochet though What oh, I assumed it wasn't no no It's definitely ricochet because basically like the pilot is behind the guy who's shooting He shoots at falcon. It ricochets off his wings into the guy So he shoot Yeah, so just I'll say it one more time. So, uh Oh, it doesn't realize that the guy is still there guy shoots at falcon falcon pulls his wings out to Dot well to block they deflect off the wings through the cockpit wall through the seat into the pilot Oh Well, I guess that's so that's so fucking dumb that I just sort of assumed in my brain that that couldn't do what happens To shoot at someone in front of you by the way, I'm multiple times pretty sure he's wearing body armor Why it makes sense that he would be To shoot twice it's something in front of you and to have multiple ricochets where the bullet as it's flattened And is in his wiggling wobbling wounded duck style through the air and then goes past you in such an insanely Accurate way to where it pierces all of this material and hits A guy who's standing behind you not once but twice That's insane. I'm not sure where it hits the pilot if it's his head Then we don't have to count the body armor, but because there's no blood in the mcu except when they want to make a point about someone being evil I can't tell Like uh because it goes through the the head of his his chair if you will and if it's that angle It would have to be coming from below which means it's have to go through his head But there's just no reason to think it's his head because there's no blood I think it goes through his the chest right it goes through the body of the chest his head looks fine You have to say if it hit him in the head it would probably go through and through like I don't think so. I don't know Oh, well, I don't think it makes it pass the pilots the cockpit room walls I think it gets stuck there and that's only like the fucking luck of it deflecting right into his seat as well like damn um It's funny to me because later later in the show The power broker lady uses someone like as a human shield and I'm like that blocks the bullets completely but ricocheting a bullet going through walls that works fine The physics are miraculous here And yeah, he's able to use the the falling plane to his advantage somehow Like it helps him beat that guy But then the autopilot kicks in and so it levels out again But unfortunately we got a french dude just wait this part like when we first saw it I just didn't remember what happened like It's it. I just didn't know but basically like everybody that falcon took out gets back up It's like round two. Basically. It just just happens. Yeah, this is a weird reset in the fight. That's just bizarre So the fight scenes in this show are really shitty. They're really bad Talking about that how they instantly get into their flight suits It's just like they kick sam down and then all of a sudden all of them are just dressed up and ready to go It's like, oh Did that just happen? Um So french guy is up and two of his like men are up and they immediately run to soldier man That falcon supposed to be protecting and there is this bit that just baffles me. So french guy throws Sorry bar talk is his name. Is it? What's it by troc? No bar talk was the name of rasputans bat in You know bar talk got his own movie Good, yeah, he got his own vhs movie called bar talk the magnificent So bat rock then he had like a talking snake as a companion It was really fucking weird Hey rags his name is actually bat rock the leaper Bat rock the leaper that's his name from the comics Always like he jumps and he uses his legs as fighting Yeah, he does a lot of that at the the time we see him so um, he Like throws falcon into some boxes What kicks him into them or something falcon goes down now everybody if you have your copies at home You can see this yourself falcon goes down now What we know about the current state of the room is the bat rock is looking at him And the other two guys are putting a wingsuit On for each of them to be able to take the guy out. We cut to People outside with the trucks being like, oh no falcon. I hope you're doing okay, buddy I like it. I hope you're right And then we cut back and everybody is fully ready with all of these suits and good to go even bat rock So it's like wow falcon must have been knocked out then There's no way that he would have let this happen That's like how long did it for him to stand up after all of that because like bat rock wasn't even in his suit at all He was something completely different and he has a gun. So it's like bat rock fucking hates falcon. Why didn't he execute him? He just didn't need our white suit. I don't know how sight is happening. Yeah And then falcon luckily wakes back up and he's like, hey, stop. But then he starts shooting at him like go away He starts shooting at him but he gets his wings out. It's like, okay now Part of why this is still a problem is the first time I saw them jump out of this plane I was like, did you need to do that? Because he was on autopilot heading to the location you wanted to go to and going out there That's like falcon's whole thing If you find him out there, he's gonna fuck you up. Yeah, you're you that at the last place you want to fight falcon is In the air. Yeah Because they have all those spare helicopters that they're gonna use. Yeah, which that is another Fucking when that happened. I was like, who do these helicopters belong to is it? Is it which side of the border they belong to? Is the america? Is it bat rock? Like why? Why did that lie? These are helicopters so that you could fly into them if need be like was he expecting it to go wrong? It was so weird But it gives falcon loads of things to explode. So that's the important part So cool like the helicopter crash. It's like, yeah, awesome falcon Yeah, and so that you know, they're doing that this sequence. I'm sure they were really really proud of it because it's like Cool, it's got a huge cool factor. I imagine a lot of people were just like this fucking awesome start to the season Yeah, I'm not an expert in those suits But like is that how they work like can you they seem more controlled than what I've seen in reality like I know that if you why if you spin with them You have to be very fucking experienced with them to regain your control because the whole point Is that they're like you're like a leaf on the wind, you know But not if you spin to the side, you'll start little fuck your aerodynamics obviously and they do that a bit Um, I think the part that loses me is that once they enter these cabony things they stop going down. They only go forward It's like, I don't think that's possible lads falcon is possible for but you guys don't have any thrusters You're just gonna keep going down Oh, you've fallen with style. I get it, but you're still gonna die Um Yeah, and then of course like we find out the red wig like could just launch a missile at a helicopter and defeated itself Just like damn dude that droid like yeah He's not far away from high about at this point. We'll just give him the suit like which is another thing They need to address now because with tony gone There was an assumption that tony just didn't want to give his suits out because he doesn't like anybody having them at This point, but it's like, I don't think you can hang on to that anymore like um Why doesn't falcon have an iron man suit Why doesn't he's got stark tech and it's like it has bits of what the iron man's suit have In terms of like weaponry and stuff, but it's like he leaves him really exposed Yeah, um he I mean Yeah, because he could just in theory falcon can just get shot by a bullet And die which is funny in theory because the wakandans do the same thing with the suit they give him Assuming all of his suit is vibranium. They leave his the top of his skull open for some reason Like that's insane to me. We didn't need to cover that Nor his jaw Nor his leg Well, I don't know about the legs, but you don't mean like it's it's these because they're comic accurate But at the same and you want the characters to have individuality, but at the same time You know you got to address this you got to have pepper be like, you know now we're not having We're not having iron man suits for everybody. Okay, and it's like but you can have the falcon suit It's like a lot of things in this In the in the show just don't think about any of it This film absolutely this film this this series of catastrophes It crumbles the second you even begin to think about it Something that's um fun to note. He has a thruster malfunction at one point in this action scene. Oh, no, what does that mean? That's horrible. That sounds like it'd be a big deal. It doesn't really mean anything. His thrusters still work Oh, okay, and he just carries him away. That's not really a malfunction then And um, it's just delaying when he can do that one of my favorite lines Is uh, torrez his little helpful government dude is watching this fight and goes Oh, no, he's outnumbered He's cutting back to him. Will he's kind of the point? It's like the part of the mission was he was outnumbered? Yeah, he's he's of course. He's outnumbered. Why would he that's the mission? It's like what a shocker. It's like wow If I was in the car, I'd be like what what do you mean? Yes, like what do you mean that there's more than we thought? Is that what you're saying? There's a really even one there's more than one hostile that he's going up against. It's like, yeah, he's he's outnumbered sam um, there's a bit where he uh, he lands in the helicopter with The the the target the all the bad guys and it he waits for the camera to pan over to him before he's like, hey And it's like, oh, that's so funny Risking people's lives. Like I don't think that's this falcon the guy that does this ever. Is he much of a quipper? Really weird Because oh I was just like, oh dude, like you had the jump on them, but you waited for them to see you first. It's like that's Why like why would you do this? Like well, it's a funny joke. You're like All right, well He's like, I don't know if you've been in a fight. There's usually not this much talking Like sam is never like this in action. So he's um, he's a straight man He doesn't he takes this all very very seriously. He's got a history as a Paratrooper veteran that lost his um lost his wingman Yeah There's advice for people dealing with trauma. It's like he's just not the guy who does quips, but I guess Everyone has to be quick now. I feel like that thing people say is sort of Getting to be very true Quipping clippiness is a replacement for a personality Well, keep in mind, you know, the creator of the show said he had to be decidedly black for this series What does that even mean? Are you serious? Yeah, I I shot mawler like some article Some article quotes from the creator like he yeah, he's not the brightest bulb in the World That I all right, let's Um, yeah, the without again, I don't spend too long on these scenes So like it kind of ends with the last helicopter is has the target in it Falcon fucking like full speed Just rams into him to get him out of there And then a missile hits the helicopter it is he wins the day and I was just like is that guy okay? What did you do to him? Whiplash, they never account for whiplash. They don't seem to give a shit. No Oh, yeah, and and by the way, this will apply to falcon as well falcon has to worry about not whiplashing himself Oh, that's true Yeah, the show seems to forget that he's just a normal person. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it has no idea He's trapped to his back. This has yeah Is you want to get the target it looks like he's wearing his seatbelt in there Did did it just snap off because he was Imagine the seat belt was on and then you pull him out and it's just the top off of him That's when he's completely gone. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. Oh my god. You're right. I think he is wearing a seatbelt. Holy shit Oh my god Really quick. Oh no, look at that. It looks pretty strong too. Like this is the kind of straps Well, yeah, seat belts are strong. It's a helicopter, man Yeah This is exactly the thing that a seat belt is designed To prevent someone being ripped from the seat suddenly That would hit because the funny thing is we might have complained that he didn't have a seat belt If he didn't but now it's like well, it's good that he was wearing a seat belt, but He's pretty much just dead. Oh man And and this is the kind of thing where you can you you bring up something like this and then someone else says you're just nitpicking And you ask that person at what time do we just stop trusting what we see I think where's the breaking point? I think I like the idea. It's kind of like when Ned Flynn This is walking through the fake out the new house that the town built for him as each issue comes up You just like all right. There's a toilet in my kitchen. Wow. The floor's kind of gritty here Oh, we just painted it This hallway doesn't lead anywhere. Oh, this is the electricity room And the hallway that just gets narrower narrower and it just stops And then you have the uh, the what was it the the poster? I don't like crusty. That was a major support Yeah, the poster kept the house together And so, yeah, you walk outside and you're like, yeah, those were all just nitpicks and then the house collapses And it's like, yeah, that's that Titanic crashed because of several small errors that people made Just like your movie or tv show can be destroyed by several small errors amounting to one massive massive I think that when people are like, well, what are your arguments? I'm like, do you really want to know what they are because it's going to take some time And you're going to hear a bunch of ones that won't mean much to you Maybe some that do mean some stuff, but it's not until the like the end that I would Assume you can like sort of acknowledge like an overall picture of what you believe now because if you hear any of those Action scene ones in isolation. I think it's fair to be like dude. Come on. Like it's one thing in an act. Come on However, once it's like 10 per second of every action scene, you're like, okay. Yeah, because you start to wonder What are you actually enjoying anymore? Like what was it you liked about it at this point? It's like, well, I liked seeing my characters defeat enemies. Like, yeah I mean, if you guys oh just print out a jpeg Just print out a picture of Falcon's flying in the air. There's your accent scene. All right. We did it Oh like, um, it's just a picture of Falcon and it's actually in the movie and it's five minutes long and somebody's just going Until we get to the next scene By the way, I forgot about that part where they just paint the floor to look like floor. This is soil It's so good. Yeah What do you think the house that love built? Oh shoot Dude, that's one of the best ways to summarize like what we do When people like hey, look a lot of love and effort went into it. It's like, yeah I can see that a lot of people I can't live in good intentions. I can't have fun with good intentions either So Uh scene after and it's already very eyebrow raising and you'll just get this sense as you rewatch it because you can see all the DNA but like the character's like, oh, you know, this is this is new group called the flag smashes Which by the way, did everyone else also go like, oh, what a name You can't smash a flag You have to freeze it first and then you can smash the flag The flag rippers the flag terrors How how about the flag gets The massive Flag smashers sounds like something a 12-year-old will come up with. Yes, we're the flag smashers. Yeah And you know, did you did you did you have any other options? What were the other options? I want to see what you when you had the bullet meeting Any other options and we'll just blops down a dictionary on the table There's a few of you So his friend Torres is like, oh, you know Flag smashers they um, they want to go back to the times before the blip Or rather during the blip and and he's like, oh, that's a bit strange And he's like, yeah, you know, they think times were better than but they they weren't like Torres is the rational person in this conversation It's like they were not better anyone could would be able to tell that and then falcons like Well, you know Unprompted by the way, you know when one thing gets good for one group can be bad for another group Yeah And like if I was at the table, I'd be like, why did you say that? Why would you why would you say that? What a useless contribution you are to this conversation that we're having Yeah, but you see it sets ups for the shit that we're gonna go that we're gonna see later That's what that's why that's there That's what I mean when Mueller it's even it's even worse. He doesn't say sometimes. He says every time every time Every time something gets good for one group it gets worse for another or something like it's insane That is nothing ever happened in the history of the universe that was simply beneficial It was always a drawback to everything This caused an effect everyone you have to understand all of life is zero some game after all And so when we're watching it it was just like a Strange and uh, you know when you think about Writing a lot you're like, oh, is that is that theme are we on theme? Uh, oh, is that gonna be uh, oh, what are we doing? He's like There's always a reason for every piece of dialogue. Yeah, the mcu got better for the writers and it got worse for the audience Yeah, that's a good. I want to return to a time before this show back when things was simple and the bad guys Killed people that was considered bad. I miss those times. It was a simple time um And yeah, and so falcon is like, ah the i'm giving up the shields Caps gone this willed another thing. He said that I was just like that strange. He was like, um This is a new world and it needs new heroes Like like that are fit for this world and I was like, what are you? Are you suggesting that like Are you suggesting dr. Strange and ant man and everyone like they need to sort of update or leave like what what's that's What do you what are we sitting? It's just weird Like are you saying you need to fuck off and or like try to be a different hero for this Chai we just we just need new heroes for the new time that like captain america and the idea of captain america is just a Thing at the past it's old hat It's like I'm not concerned about a terrorist opinion about captain america Well, the thing is Captain america's like ideals if anyone was like you see he's like oh america first like I don't really think that was his deal. It was much more to do with like, you know Just doing the right thing and it's very fundamental Fighting through what's right like this is the thing that this show propagates Is that he was like the tool of the state and that like he just went along with everything It's like he didn't that was what he spent all of winter soldier and civil war doing is like fighting against authority. It's like Which by the way, I think all you guys I think a little bit awkward Steve rogers the man who defied the government and the un's wishes the democratically voted leaders that all decided that this was important He defied all of them And uh, he eventually went back in time to stay with his hoodie Yes, he fought Thanos. I agree But he didn't die as far as we know or he died of old age after all of that happened and he is Basically in the show being considered as like what a fucking legend hero best man Tony died to save the world. Tony actually wedded lied with the u.s. Tony uh, Tony was Tony I don't know it felt a little bit weird to me. It's like well, of course cap is going to be appreciated for everything that he did And it's like well, there's just no awkwardness. There's no pushback There's no sense that like oh well, he was the guy who did xyz, but he is also the guy who did a bc You know, that's that's totally fair. It's just like didn't Didn't Tony did Tony get like a museum? I know you had that documentary thing going on in far from home But I was just like this is just strange. He's he's held up as like the hero captain american I was like surely it would be Tony in this universe Yeah, and I mean Tony did get like the funeral at the end of endgame and all it's like it seems to like people acknowledge him But it is weird that this show just doesn't even acknowledge him barely at all Especially with the whole stuff with the mummy and what he gave to the avengers. So well, yeah Why would I even imply for a second? Well, it didn't get falcon any money that um Tony was a good person who should have been appreciated because uh, both Tony and cap get shot on in this season Unfortunately when you find out the decisions that they've made Um, which by the way, you are not supposed to be able to assassinate characters after they've died That's not something you're supposed to do but they they find it ways They dig it out talented writers do you just don't understand hollywood art One of those things where you just assume they're safe because they're dead like what else can you do with them? They find ways it's like Turns out they found 14 Dead raped babies in Tony's basement that he cut up and put in the freezer Wow that guy that guy had some demons. I don't know about that. It turns out he wasn't a hero after all Oh, oh boy, but then they like go into every single act He did in the past films and they have like a different context for all of them It's like no actually he was actually just trying to kill everybody and he failed Just remember that in this scene when he's saving people there were dead babies in his basement all the time They're dead babies in his basement. Absolutely. They're sure were and so He could be a little bit annoying. We're gonna get into those examples. They are very frustrating But yes, uh, he gives up the shield and um, there's just an implication of just like we as viewers like The falcons could end up with our shield by the end of the season Yeah, he's gonna Yeah, we all know Uh, but how will they do it and um, we we're given little poorly How indeed Poorly and so It's like, yeah, so we get winter soldiers also part of this season. So we get his first flashback where it's in like this honestly quite busy hotel And uh, there's this guy heading to his room And like this, I mean there's so much about this show already like instantly Or I was just like this isn't this isn't working already So again, I hate to criticize actions too much because I know loads of people just don't give a fuck They wanted to do a story criticisms, but I find them important First decision bucky makes or winter soldier, whatever is to punch through this wall and pull a guy through it And then the whole wall disappears I don't know if he set that up at some point where he would punch through it And there's a person size hole as a result. It was really weird steps through it Fucking there's a guy right here Who's just like because obviously I can't really name him He like is awkwardly in position to easily kill him, but he just starts running toward him with his gun and so he dies Because why why would you aim and shoot you loser? That would be weird um And yeah, so what I kind of want to point out here is like it's so weird It's it looks cool, right from to punch through the this like this mural but why It's really And yeah, like he's described as like a ghost in captain america the winter soldier That you'll like say like people don't believe he exists because no one's seen him. It's like why why it's like a ghost buster ghost I don't believe but they can all see it's yeah, so if he's punching through this right guys This is fear the sake of you guys at home. You see this arrow. That's where he's gonna punch through Theoretically whatever this door over here leads to is probably like a hallway down here And that's where he's punching through just come around this side What are you doing? You get the drop on the first guard here and then you can shoot all these ones down because they're not even fucking facing you Instead you make this huge fucking spectacle Of yourself you struggle to get through all of the door because there's fucking ash and shit everywhere and It's just we I was just like what an incompetent way to do this And by the way, I hate seeing winter soldier being competent It's he's supposed to be the most terrifying assassin in history. It's like please please just portray him being intelligent I need you to do that Problem in winter soldier. There's tons of incompetency in that they say But it's like from what we see with this assassinations. He's not good and so One of the first thoughts I had is like, how could he possibly have remained? Yeah, like like you said like a ghost How he doesn't even he doesn't even make sure he's killed all of these people One of them he hits down to the floor just standard punch Uh, this is an active hotel. Who knows how many eyes are on him? Has he gotten all the cameras? Let's say just do you think he'd come back at night or when his target was alone and do you think of all the ways you Can assassinate this guy? Why would you attack him in the middle of a hotel with all of his gods? That sounds like the stupidest fucking time to do it Like I was like I was gonna say why not wait until he's in his fucking room And shoot him from like a like a neighboring window or whatever like a window from across the way Do you think there's a prior film in the mcu that establishes him maybe killing someone from a distance with a gun through a window? Maybe or no, no No, because he doesn't kill him right Somehow he survived that somehow. Yeah So Shocked that went up to bad luck. I was already like, okay, but then you know, there's this struggling witness like oh my good god and Then the idea of the scene hit me and I'm like, this is cool I do like the idea that this sometimes gonna get witnesses caught in the crossfire and because he's so You know Winter soldiery he will just kill them instantly and these are the kinds of kills Along with others that will weigh on bucky's conscience and he wakes up from the nightmare with a gunshot and I was like, hey, that's I You know what I mean? Like if you guys will find out I was writing this season and I go I'm gonna have it so that he's like having nightmares of his past kills as a form of ptsd I'm sure you'll be like, yeah, that's that almost seems like the thing to do. Yeah, that's the thing that that would be Sounds like it. Yeah But that's not good enough just saying that isn't good enough. That's my idea That's what that's the problem with this show and a lot of modern writing is the I get your idea Your execution was a little fucking flimpy. That wasn't it um because Is ptsd is barely present in this whole season Barely there because he goes on missions with sam like they just kind of brush it by the wayside and they don't address PTSD once he once he inundates himself in more violence and death It doesn't really bother him at all in any way actually That's the thing about a comedy We have all your opportunities every time we hit nighttime He should be getting the nightmare and we should but sometimes not even be able to tell Like I think a really good payoff for like the third or fourth nightmare Is that it comes across as a normal scene for him and falcon And like he's struggling more and more with whatever they get into a normal fight with whoever Like maybe the flag smashes and he goes really far and maybe fucking like rips a head off Or at least it's implied and then he wakes up from the nightmare. And so it's like, oh He thinks that like what he's done as winter soldier is still going to bleed into his like You know the way that he operates his fighting style and how Competent he is is still dependent on his history as the winter soldier the thing he's trying to repress It's like, oh, this is lots to work with here Um, not to mention loud noises quick noises and people if ever they managed to sneak up on him should freak him out every time That's like the standard way to portray it, but there's nothing. It's all just fun He's just having fun with falcon on all these adventures That's terrible It's something that the interviews in this first episode is like bait. It's like a hook It's like, whoa, what about this and then the rest of the show just doesn't address me They're just like, hey, we wrapped it up. He said that he killed the guy's son Which There is a common thread with stuff with bucky stuff with falcon and um, right if it was I can't remember what your character was but like they they they state The current state of affairs for themselves in their mindset and then by the last episode or the penultimate one They will state the opposite. They'll be like it is no longer this you're like, yes We did it He went on Yes, uh, not only do I think there's damage done to bucky, but he's been thoroughly wasted in this season It's not really he's not really important to it. It's way more about falcon walker and carly Which is a shame because he's in the fucking time I feel like this show kind of you know, you could chew it just introduces so many characters and i'm like you You're trying to show to go by them Yeah, I should have focused So begins the therapy scene um Oh, I don't even this is the thing with every scene we approach. I'm just like, do you know how many issues there are in this scene? Yeah, but one thing. Oh one thing I fucking hated about this was like the close-ups on their random close-ups on their fucking face It has no purpose In every fucking crevice for no reason It's like they make that the master shot of the scene is that like the the the shot that they keep cutting back to Is the close-up it's like usually in a movie you want to save the close-ups for like the lines that like hit hard or it's supposed to be more They're all supposed to hit. They're all intense It's just Making worth the very least The very least is sort of like shallow depth of field close-up of him could You know reflect something about his emotional state, but they do the same shot on the therapist So it doesn't have that impact either You know what I mean, you know, I when I was watching I was just kind of like oh, we're still doing close-ups Okay, like instead of feeling what they probably wanted me to feel which was this is a very personal scene They are discussing things that are very very to the core of the characters But it's not intimate because you can only see half their face, you know, like yeah, I know what I'm saying Good close-up. It's just like So, um, I have a fucking laundry list of problems one of the first ones that just came on screen that really bothered me, right? So I think his PTSD should be taken very seriously Um And as much as this person has a history with people dealing with people who have PTSD She says for us that the government is still worried about him being a winter soldier That already I was like wow. Oh, how is he allowed to walk around? You're still worried if they were worried about you becoming a winter soldier again Oh full party. You're on a pretty tight leash. But yeah, so I was just Okay, um, but the way she says it isn't like we still have a lot of concerns about like, you know state of mind we need to make sure that you're Stable and that nobody can you know do what Zemo did basically the way she says is we got to make sure you're not and then mimic stabbing I remember just being like what Funny, it's like, you know, it's it's kind of comedic, you know, light heart scene. How inappropriate, you know I don't know. Maybe I take therapy a little bit more seriously. I'm just like, oh, yeah, you don't be stabbed But okay. It's like fuck you. This is this literally what my mind gets taken over and I'm used as a weapon You're like, don't be stabbing Felt awkward reminding me of Iron Man 3, which is not good um But that's Let's further down the list of my issues here because we get a big info dump Um, and it's specifically because this whole episode info dumps Basically tells you what bucky's arc is gonna be and then ignores it until episode five And then ignores it again the um He's very sad very alone and has PTSD because he needs to make amends for the life he led as winter soldier He has three rules nothing illegal nothing to hurt anybody and to make sure that the person involved isn't told He's no longer the winter soldier. He is bucky barns which by the way When you rewatch this show And you realize the identity and labels are very important to the point where they change it from Falcon and the winter soldier to captain america and the winter soldier That's fucking awkward. Oh That's kind of right. Oh, that's interesting. But he's still the winter soldier. That's a really good point Big miss on their part with that one. Yeah They made him the white wolf. That's like exactly should have been captain america and the white wolf should have been his new identity His new hero name. He's the white wolf. Nope. They fucked it up It's all on it's all on sam sam's the one with all the developed. Yeah um, so These rules very important. She basically implies that like if he's to breach any of them And if she's to find out about this sort of shit that he's like obviously Like go into prison not just because those are crimes on their own anyway to kill people or to Whatever break the law is probably a crime. I'd imagine, you know, it seems kind of categorical Uh, he does them anyway and it's funny Right. The scene is portrayed as he goes through the the rule and then we see him break it and it's like t he doesn't make a whole lot of sense Because apparently right the scenario is there's a senator who got into her position of power thanks to the winter soldier So he wants to go and depower her and the way he's going to do it is Giving a bunch of files to her associate or something like that. That's what he says. However In reality, he attaches some kind of thing to a car listens in on her conversations And then remote controls the car to put it into a position he wants and then beats her passenger Unconscious and then tells her he's no longer the winter soldier. He's bucky barns. There's those are comedic payoffs Like I didn't do anything illegal and then fucks with their car and they're screaming I didn't hurt anyone punches the guy to be knocked out and then yeah, and I did I did the third one And then he actually does the third one. She's like, all right good How in the world would she not know about this? exactly And Where did he get all this get these gadgets and I mean They were like their rests and sirens and everything was this not should should have been in the news like a corrupt politician was Apprehended in her car Stuff it's honestly weird because he tells her it's this woman specifically and he tells her how he did it with the files Whatever and in the scene we see him leave and the police show up the police don't care about him They let him walk by There's an active crime scene from what we imagine this smashed windows Someone in there bleeding to death probably with how is he hit with a fucking vibrated fist? So I think it's gonna hit um And they don't care about him they let him go But if you walk up to them, you'd be like so who beat this man Do who sorry? I don't even know if there was a smashed window ignore me on that one But um the Unlike who did this basically and the one will be like well the man said I am bucky barns I am not the winter soldier. So I feel like that's a big indication Um, yeah, blame the guy with the vibranium arm Typical Yeah, so not only barns sounds like the name of like a mascot Yeah Like a bear and so um, yeah senator atwood was her name and so yeah, he's um, he did that and She's like good that you stayed by the rules. It's like you would know he didn't so I don't know why you said that He definitely broke the law three times. I think Um, so he's gone to prison again That's unfortunate rest of the season is not gonna have him I suppose um, bucky goes to jail about seven times in this season if you pay attention to everything that he does But he he only actually goes to jail once and he's bailed out immediately Because this show sucks. Well, he must be very appreciative of whoever bailed him out. Oh 100% 100% And yeah, the rest of the scene is to imply it is really annoying with overt dialogue We have like, oh, let me see your phone. He's like She's like, oh, you don't talk to anybody. Oh, you've been ignoring sam Oh, you need to you know, you need to trust people again. I was just like, uh lame lame lame You can't tell me anything about this character without just being explicit because they have got the time and they Definitely don't have the talent. So And that's the scene, you know, I mean like there's a couple of jokes thrown in and it's it's mainly just to tell you What is ox gonna be like? Thank you Those are my complaints. I don't know Well, the other thing is that doesn't she say Later on that like she knows when he's lying, but she doesn't know when he's lying about like that. He broke all those rules Yes, she she can tell but she can't tell what she would literally have been told. She is his like carer They would tell her. Yeah The thing is like is she faking it and so that like She can keep him out of jail because she wants to she wouldn't be able to do that right because That's just official It would be like there's an accusation that you did this to these people And there's strong evidence that you did because we saw you walking away from the scene But wouldn't even and you said your name when you did it. So yeah, it's a bit awkward. There's a witness There's two witnesses actually And uh, you told your therapist that you did get her arrested So seems like we've got a pretty good case against you We're gonna need a good lawyer, but yeah And so then yeah because we got to get we got to get this done so quickly It just it all happens all once it's like mr. Nakajima is the guy the bucky's hanging out with oh by the now We can definitely bring this up. So Who do you think's the most famous person? Sorry real quick before you move on? I just want to I just want to say that They really did have the time to do more and they chose not to like they have episodic television They could have taken their time and they just didn't it's not really an excuse. There's a lot of meandering around There's a lot of a lot of unnecessary stuff That happens a lot of little stuff that could be cut a lot of And things they could have done to fill in the gaps. They just didn't do because they were lazy You know, it's not like a like a you know two-hour movie where you really do need to lose all the fat I would say they could have had time part of what kills these shows and this isn't like a death sentence It's just it's really hard for writers that are already shit. You have to have two big fight sequences per episode So you have to make situations where that's gonna happen And so if you're focused on the structure, you haven't even thought about dialogue yet Or like character arcs. You're just trying to make sure you get those in place because they've been mandated like Oh, I could see that fucking with people so much That's something that I noticed throughout the entire show is there's a lot of like They need to make excuses for action to happen Like that's the thing with the door of melange and a lot of in episode four They're just like we need more actions. Like how do we do this? I don't know How about when they take Walker's field from that seat is so awkward. Oh my god Why the hell did walker flee the scene and walk into this abandoned like they needed to fight Exactly. It's like it's there's no witnesses. It's like dude. Just leave just take off if you're like, no guys I'm not fighting. Well, uh, what upset me more on the second watch six I missed it on my first was the first thing he says when he sees the both of them is you guys should see a medic Make sure you're right What an asshole, you know And it becomes so clear like even to walker by the way because I'm on his team in that scene Like I am literally fucking team walker throughout the whole scene. He says like, you know Either like you have to stop once you kill one person It doesn't end that way and he just looks at bucky. He's like, I'm not like you and I was just like Oh quite the quite the retort because bucky is like almost condescending to this military veteran, right? He's not yeah, you don't get to be like, oh no, I've been alive longer than I've been I've existed in more decades than you so I have more experience like no shut up. He has three medals of honor He knows what he's doing Um But of course he he would have lost it because his fucking friend I'm talking about that scene now, but that's what happens. Um, it really fucking annoyed me that they didn't appreciate that at all They don't even mention lemar. They're just like give me the shield You fuckers you watch this friend die like you don't even give a shit Um, and yeah, and falcon is basically just like, you know, we just we don't want to hit you We don't want to hit anybody and the scene dies down I was talking to rise with us the other day because I was just rewatching it. It's so insane The old's dies down nice and silent and then you have to give me the shield And walk is like, oh That's what this is about and I was like I had the same feeling I was like, oh my god falcon you selfish little bitch You just want the shield. It's not about anything else, is it? Sorry, I'm sorry about your your friend the mission all the stuff we're doing We got people to follow places to go you have to give me the shield Like all someone's wishing they didn't give it up, huh? Yeah Too bad, bitch Yeah, you can't just take the shield away from captain america who it belongs to Oh It is kind of surprising that the movie doesn't seem to care about lemar either also because he's black You know, you would think based on everything else that happens in the movie or the show that they would care about him But they don't there is um, there's no Moment for lemar like other than the family crying, right? But that scene is only there to set up that walker wants to get carly. That's the only reason for that scene They don't have a moment that's just for lemar where they have like an appreciation This guy died defending captain america this guy who was in a fight with three other people By the way on his team who are all better off than he is technology and uh, you know biology wise He was there fighting the fight and he lost his life And no one gave a shit Yeah, lemar is basically just like the supportive negro character You know Well, I assumed that they did that with a white captain america and a black sidekick to mirror What we had with cap and falcon and to almost be like see look that it's almost like the next generation But they're not as they're not as good people you see because walker gets angry when his friends are killed. You're like, oh Damn Have you guys seen all the stuff where people like cap would never do that even if falcon was killed in front of him? He would never kill someone like that. It's like bullshit. We don't know that Yeah, I have he kills people. I don't yeah Not only does he kill people all the time he gets angry Because he's a human Yeah, he killed that guy that he kicked him winter soldier who's legs broke when he fell off the ship and he drowned to death Killed that guy for anybody in chat was like, what is he talking about? There is a guy in the beginning of winter soldier that isn't looking forward, right? He's just looking away and cap kicks him in the back and he flings across the boat real fast meaning that his spine is in pieces Slams into the side of the boat and flips over the side. So this guy's probably not dead, but he's drowning Yeah, and he can't do anything to help himself And there was that time in age of ultra on where cap grabs a dude while he's on his motorcycle and drags him along the Ground for about five seconds before throwing him into his body Just again, this universe wants to pretend like there's never been blood on cap shield There's a lot of blood on that shield like oh, yes throws that field Oh, yes, agent in the back of his neck. He's probably got bits of his spine And like veins on that on that thing Well, this is that a lot of people have criticized in like civil wars Like he's like throwing the shield that people like super fast. It's like dude, that was exactly that's my biggest It's my biggest issue with this fucking franchise is like he's a super soldier who throws a vibranium Shield at people normal people at top fucking speed How about broken spines or decapitated people by now? There's probably a few heads coming off Oh for sure, but no also cap is Also cap is used a gun in in in the past in the first in the first movie And just to be clear the reason why this is getting brought up is because for some reason this film this film this show is really weird about death We open the show with Falcon killing these dudes indiscriminately, but from then on No, there's like nobody wants to kill anybody. It's just skirmishers and punch outs It's really weird for a universe that has consistently not really cared about killing goombas What's weird? It's never really cared, which is like it's fine because they're bad guys Well, I was going to say what's weird event in some ways. I think it just directly connects And rags, I'm sure you you definitely noticed this point it out. Where are the guns? Nobody has any guns. Yeah Guns just aren't around often. They're around when there are space dogs Well, uh, because someone's probably gonna and someone in this cast might be like, well Whoa, they're there are scenes where they use guns like there are but there are loads of scenes where they don't use guns for no reason at all When guns are used, they're often used in an incredibly dumb way that makes no sense And then the gun's just gone after that and we don't it's just it's just on People don't carry guns with them and use them to shoot people Punch people if you have a gun that really easy to kill just shoot them in the head There's a there's a gun shootout By the storage containers and when it happened I was like, oh right guns exist. Yeah guns You fucking shut it. You shut the hell up. I forgot Falcon has guns. He does And if you'll know red wing has like a machine gun on him Do you remember when um, when at one point walker is like, uh, why is it always knives with these guys? Like it's like a funny like he but it's like walker. You have a gun. It's right there. It's a side off Yeah, shoot shoot them with your gun. Guns are really good against knives actually knives, yeah Well as we learn guns are primitive not like our spears So I want to this is one of the ones we haven't gone over yet actually as an example of what cap cap does So you guys remember civil war. It's a pretty cool movie It's time to see if he throws a shield bounce bounce hits this guy in the neck And he does like a mortal combat sort of low health bar move. You know, you know, I mean fringing, right? You know, he's like, uh, he's dazed So So what I want to highlight here is that this guy's fucked. He's out You could probably push him over with a pinky finger This is what cap decides to do with with a combatant. That's probably done So kick him so hard. He flings across the room and slams into that table. That guy's probably dead Uh, by the way, I want to make it well van getting compressed didn't do it. Yeah Um, I want to make it clear. I have no problem with a person doing this in What is the heat of the battle with the concerns that this person could kill them? You know what if this person was a super soldier that captures did that too I'd be like, holy shit. You might want to do more just in case like, I don't know Could get up could for example throw a stone pillar at you in an attempt to kill you or something while you're chasing them Don't know instead of surrendering. Yeah So, oh, sorry about a minute off to keep restraining you so that collie could stab you in the heart Yes, there's so many and this is the thing that we're fringing brought up right at the beginning It's less about what the direction and the music is telling you look at what happens Look at the actual things that happen As if there's no music what we see is that john walker just saw his best friend get punched so hard That his organs turn to jelly Um, he's naturally pretty upset about this jumps out the window and sees the guy who not a minute prior was restraining him so that collie could kill him And had he not done that lamar wouldn't have had to tackle collie and he would have been punched So this dude says it wasn't me, but that I don't care. Fuck you Like yeah, I was trying. It's like I tried to kill you Well, like regardless of like Regardless of like him trying to pin somebody down or not you still run with these motherfuckers You run with people who blow innocent people up Precisely. Oh, they so if the leader does some shit you are also involved in this shit and you can get got to well You are not you are not exempt. You were not exempt because well, I didn't blow it up You're so far the place with dumb shit relating to that very point, right? I uh, I wanted to be in the scene where walker said he killed lamar and then bucky said no, he didn't which by the way A technicality in terms of like a truth if I were in the scene I'd be like no, you're right bucky. They killed lamar. They as a team killed lamar Like it's all their faults for for many many reasons. Um So so do you agree with that? I just want bucky to a smug be like Well, not technically it was Harley didn't mean to do it. She didn't know him. Yeah, she didn't mean to you gotta you gotta appreciate that She meant to burn to death the innocent hostages. Yeah, but like she didn't need to kill lamar Why you know, why did she kill why? Why did she pump so hard reason? I'm firing like my hair. She didn't have a reason. He didn't matter. She doesn't kill people who don't matter Which is a really smart thing to say to a man Imagine uh They're like you need to you to calm down you're killing people and then uh, Walker is like, don't you ever want to ask me why why I would do something like that? They killed lamar. I have a good reason Don't you think I have a point? Don't you think you should talk to me not take my shield? They're like bad guys That's what I mean, it becomes so transparent falcon just wants the shield Falcon is more confrontational to Walker than he is to carly. Yes, which is unacceptable. So is the whole movie I'm gonna break your arm to steal the shield from you I want to I want to have a deep long conversation with carly About you know who she is and why she's doing what she's doing But fuck that guy on our team who saved my life and just watched his buddy die Fuck that shit. He needs to give me his crap. Fuck him It plus carly is just cold-blooded throughout the entire show cold-blooded like she just I wouldn't have killed lamar because his life didn't matter anyway Dude That is one of the best lines of the whole season. She is a moron like how do you say that? What do you think you're going to achieve? I already want to kill people who matter. It's like what? His black life didn't matter So fucking dumb I thought I was honestly like convinced that it would be that he goes you killed like he's really angry and then she goes I'm sorry. Like I it's you know, it happened. I didn't I didn't want to kill I didn't mean to just as simple as that But she means to stab him Well, that would be our conversation. We'd be like, what do you mean? She's totally on board with major and stuff But it's she didn't say that she said I don't mean to kill people who don't matter Funny like literally one minute before all this happened The dude was holding him there so that carly could stab him and they're like nah, you crossed the line, buddy You even ask me for one more everyone's like, oh punching people sometimes kills them. It's like I I didn't realize that I just wanted to what inconvenience him hurt him enough to where he wouldn't follow me anymore Yeah, like what were you doing sent you achieve your goal and again, he doesn't matter. So who cares, right? Yes, um, john walker in this whole show Tries his hardest. He really does. It should have been his season. Fuck the other two Yeah, well In the last Jedi honestly He just keeps doing the right thing and then gets fucked over. Yeah. Yeah When he first gets inducted as uh, captain america, they shit on him on site. They don't even try Yeah, remember if you remember how the scene plays out after john saved their lives After he saved their lives, um, I don't know. They got split up They just left walker and and battled some more behind And then they get in their car and they're like, hey guys, um, let's work together You want to hop in the car and they're all like, fuck you. You're not captain america. It's like dude It's actually bizarre like I'm not trying to replace him So it's like why do they hate him so much and then it's funny one of them says like, you know Have you ever jumped on a grenade? It's like, yeah three times. I ignore that It's like he's got three medals of honor guys like he There is no person ever who's got received three Funnily enough, he said he jumped on it four times and that he does something with his helmet to like brace the impacts You know, because obviously the second you hear I jumped on four grenades You're like, how are you alive? I just like, yeah, he apparently is figured out a way Which is funny because Cap jumped on a grenade and that was what demonstrated what a hero he was He walker jumps on four grenades and it's like, ah, you know, whatever you just Doesn't matter. It was especially frustrating because bucky watched his um But like like his introduction and he explicitly says like cap was all about You know, like strength courage and defending people and he inspired me and I wish I could like even come close to just doing what he did like Dude, what else do you need? Like this is just Why do you even then he saved your life and then you ditched him like what? I don't understand and then again, it's right at the end of the show after they keep Rebuff it like they keep just kicking him in the nuts. He's like, all right, then fuck you And then the show's got evil music It's a bad guy and then of course in the next episode, do you know who I am? That scene is so transparent with what they're trying to do. I'm like, dude Well, it's like, um, you're in an argument with like somebody and you both kind of 50 50 like in terms of who's at blame Um, I actually know they're the person who's at blame that they say like fuck you I just want to you know, do whatever I want if it means burning down your house That's what I'm gonna do and the music stuff's played behind those like Like like a powerful yeah, and you'll sing like what the f what is that music? You go? No, you can't burn my play style And then you just get bum bum And it works on so many people It works on it's so easy people are so easy to manipulate Again, like Mola mentioned the Dormalage throw a spear at him and if he hadn't dodged it I guess captain America would have a spear through his neck in latvia From Wakanda. I'm sure that's not going to cause any geopolitical issues at all. Yeah, I'm sure this will go over great On a mission. Oh, we have jurisdiction wherever we are. It's like, oh, I'm sure latvian citizens feel very comfortable that you Spears of people Also the the Wakandan, you know female soldiers They want Zemo out of there because they don't trust him and so does he so they're kind of on the same side And they're fighting anyway. That might require them to listen to him the five seconds hand on the shoulder That's He put a hand on their shoulder. It's like, oh, so you've chosen death What I remember someone on i remember someone on twitter saying that that was like a white man disrespecting a black woman's face Was it just respecting his face when he had a spear thrown at his neck? They are really people are white saying there's no respect from a Wakandan queen I like the idea when people on twitter like see this is american imperialism You have no jurisdiction. It's like I'm light be as part of like nato Sure, he does but I guess not right the borders of all. Yeah, there's probably an agreement or something going on way more than the fucking The the fucking Taj Mahal have they just show up and they want to and how does germany feel about Them getting Zemo Well, it's like no, thanks No, he was out Weirdest thing. I'm like why why the raft I thought you guys wanted to take For where like you put like super dangerous soldiers in or like I mean the super villains essentially so that they're hidden It's like why why Zemo Zemo's not like that much of a threat physically and I don't know that it's a we need him in the highest secure. It's like well No, it's just a jurisdiction thing again like germany won him because he committed a bunch of his crimes in germany That's why they have him you could he's committed crimes in a lot of places He could go to multiple places But it was just like we're taking him to the rafts like but why and then one of the door of melange in the background It's like it's food the next movie. He's gonna be in. All right, let's go It's like Chela was the one who put him in the pregnant in germany which raises questions about what they're doing so confusing But hey, well that's possible. We'll building flutes So I was talking about how like bucky just gets summed up in this episode super awkward date He has with a person who's not a person. Um, she is just a plot device. She just spews out a bunch of shit That's really hard to deal with Like hey, do you know how when you lose a kid? They don't have a name for it Like you become a widow or a widow or whatever must suck must suck for him to have lost his kid And bucky's just like where are you going? Yeah Yeah, it's not They had already laid on the exposition thick with when he was at lunch with the old japanese guy like he He had had like this piece here like he had this vietnam flashback like oh my son like these red bean thingies and then And then like it keeps going now. He keeps it. Oh, he was a ambassador at this thingy thing And he was at school and then he got shot by a very mysterious long-haired man with a metal arm That was weird So this is the thing about um, yeah This is the thing about ideas versus the executioner if I told you in a call. I have an idea walk Wind soldier or the bucky's gonna find the families of those people that he killed that were absolutely instant Try and hang out with them for a bit get to know them and then explain the situation and apologize that any of it happened Like oh, that's kind of cool idea. So so give me an example of one of the ones you're gonna do It's like, okay, so he walks into a bar with this old dude and the old dude just goes Oh my god, you know, sometimes I just think about how my son died and he was really sad You're like, oh Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, that's one way to tell us. Do you know what was really sad about it? Is I don't know how he died. I'd like to know how he died sad Okay I feel like all you did was you had an idea and then you just showed me your idea I didn't even see a story. I just sold your idea. It was like, oh, that's a neat idea I was like, you're gonna fucking do better than this surely. It's like my son loved the red bean mochi All they had to do all they had to do was stop there Like have the old guy look at that thing really sadly and say, oh my son liked this and then just stop the fucking scene Yeah, and it there like then we could like oh I now I see where this is going But like they just And that was hilarious is like I think at the end of the episode Bucking goes to his fucking house after the date, right? Yeah, and he opens like old Japanese that opens the door and big ass picture I'm like Yeah, just in case you didn't know He killed them on the fucker. Yeah, it's uh, they frame it just with so little talent It's like the door only shows x about nakajima fills up most of it But the remaining piece there's a big photo of his son's like isn't that sad you killed him. You're like, yeah Yeah, I don't have any more dead sons. I'm running out of room in my apartment Like it would have been they might as well have had like a group of people praying over the fucking picture We get it Like he's dead. This this is your field of view. I've got it on the stream now This is really this is an artist work So all of this has to be covered at least by the human, you know, right? So what would we do with our remaining space? It's like, well, this will be the shrine and this will be the image You're like, good job guys. You nailed it He's just blowing How many years have gone by since this happened? Sorry he interrupted me. I was crying about my son It was really sad. Also. I was playing sad piano music. Um, or like I've got on the stereo. What's up, bucky Interrupting me while I'm really sad about my dead kid Oh, hi there bucky. Yeah, it's it's me. My son's dead. I mean, it's me You know, I think the worst part is not knowing how he died. Anyway, what's up with you bucky Knowing how he died that would be closure. So Yeah, if I was, you know, brooding on this fresh hell that I wake up to every day because my son died Uh, what what are you doing? How are you? And so genuinely, um You will have people who are like, what the hell that is meaningful It's his son that died and bucky's sort him out just to like make amends. It's like, I don't think you If you're not really hearing what our criticism is, I don't think we can do much else It's just incredibly overt and talentless to be able to do it this way Um, and they have to do it this way because we don't get any more bucky now until episode five. So Um, yeah, it's it's all front loaded and it's very just standard. Like yeah, he has PTSD killed some people This guy is somebody affected. Maybe he'll talk to him about it someday Pretty sure we were like, yeah last episode, you'll probably come back to Nakajima and be like, hey Sorry, and it was even worse than I expected. They had to walk it in and they made it even quicker What a shame um Then so that's all the bucky stuff done. I'll go to the flag smashes after after we we talk about the bank The famous bank scene, right? Everybody's everyone's talking about this It's like everyone loves the boat and sam's sister so cool Sam's sister is a twat. I'm just gonna say oh, she's an asshole totally. She's a bitch. Yeah Well, let's do that first then all right because she gets a little angrier at sam here for no fucking reason She's just a horrible person and she basically rips into him But not having been more in like involved with the family when he was around and then for trying to make an effort When he hasn't been here for five years, which is a pretty fucking hilarious thing to say to sam Very frustrating that she's like mom and dad did all this stuff and you just you know You went off to the army and it's like it's fucking wingman died Like and it like put him into like what the fuck is wrong with you? Like why would you say this like this to this man? It's absolutely bizarre. She's just like yeah, well our family we did this like you boat you made food Get over it like jesus christ Like oh, you didn't have enough money to make ends meet It's like what is he here doing right now trying to help you like can you please accept that? And that's not even right She acts like she's the only single mother in the world like You know like how many times he dies almost in the mcu and she's just like you are all fighting aliens or whatever and that's great But you know we had problems here Are you kidding me? Yeah, oh, yeah, you're fighting interdimensional space aliens and saving the world. Yeah, well our boat doesn't work Yeah, we can't even sell it. It's like okay Uh, I smell like shrimp every day of day Um, and then he's like hey, maybe we can get a loan She's no the banks are rolling with the big business. I'll trust yeah all the all the banks are racist and they won't give us a loan And so there are theories, right? There's two ways to assault this as a huge issue But it depends on how you view the season I think there's there's the actual way and then there's a way that people try to invent to make it sound better So the way they try and say it to sound better is that no, of course falcon has money She just doesn't want to take his money. She wants to get the loan herself and she can't falcons like rich and stuff It's fine. It's like no the guy says wait doesn't stock pay you and he's like it doesn't work like that So why would they say that if the loan was specifically just for her and we should remember the loan He says, um, you haven't had any earnings for the past five years and then she's like Well, how would someone have earnings when they've disappeared? Um, and if that's in reference to just here Well, wait, no, she's been around have she was she ported out or no, I can't remember She was around but her husband. I think her husband. What not your husband wasn't some shit I don't know but she was around The sand got blips. I guess she was depending on him for some shit. I don't know Well, either way, uh, this isn't a problem you can have show. I am sorry Falcons too rich. I don't believe you falcon is too insanely famous Yeah, he's famous rich and he has current government contra you know when he was fighting those helicopters If he had grabbed like one of the missiles that were fucking fired I mean probably sell that she could buy a new boat like that's how expensive the technology He's dealing with start up a youtube channel and be like hey People may laugh at that but that is genuinely something he could do Yeah, but like He's he's supposed to have money and like he acts like oh We got to go with the bank to get the loan to get the boat fixed But why don't you just loan her some fucking money as an independent military contractor like in this review? I read for uh, like it's entertainment weekly review for this show. They said well He should be loaded Because like military contractors like regular ones make bank like on average. It's like 22k a month Well, and he and in this and in this universe and him being associated with tony stark a billionaire anyway His bank account should be fucking stacked so that is the sources of remedy, right? So the contracts that is one two savings. He would have had a bank to begin with he didn't just respawn with zero dollars That's not how that works Third uh, tony would have given him money and support and he's got a direct line to pepper pots So yeah, that's another source fourth the youtube idea. Absolutely. He would just make a channel make some videos going Again people find it so amusing. It's like imagine he sold it as I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna vlog while gaming even about my time with cap The literally like the world's most famous hero the most beloved hero ever wouldn't you guys watch that? I probably would Absolutely Yeah, I want to hear about the guy who saved the world and what used to do in his private time Like tell me about the fucking tv and music he liked. What did you guys joke about? What did you do to like, you know, how stressful are all your missions and Again, you can monetize the shit out of it. Even that have birch, but one of the ones I think that really would happen He would be able to get a whole bunch of deals to go on talk shows Black man poor marlar black man poor black man surprised They didn't ret con it and explain that this whole time nick fury was just scraping to get by just living paycheck to paycheck It is absolute bullshit. And this is this is the prime example of I have a story to tell and i'm going to tell you like you can't because of all these things are in this world It's like I don't care. I'm telling it and you're like, okay, but if you do this you damage everything. It's like, I don't care Okay, that's the will we're in Everybody is whatever they need to be at the time because you have a goal and this goal is it's family of poor they need help and It's it's going to relate widely to the different problems the different income inequalities and how these are the people that need They need to be taken care of and the the GRC missed them Which by the way If you're the GRC you know the global resource management There are people in the world who aren't getting any food or water. They're like dying and then you Sarah his sister have so much of your own skull in your ass that you're like, I need to be looked after Yes, I can eat and drink and I've shelter. Yes, I can make money But I feel like I could use more and the GRC are like, oh Well, there are people who are literally dying right now people who are moving across countries trying to get back to where they belong Or yeah, but their boats work. Oh, gosh. We've got to get someone in there to fix your fucking boat geez It is insanely selfish And then just just like with the context of this world again It just damages how I understand these characters and what they're doing with their situations Um, again, I've spoken with rags about this. It's so bizarre to watch on the second time through The problem as stated is they do not have the money To be able to fix the boat to be able to sell the boat Slash have the money to simply just go on otherwise they're gonna lose the house. That is the big That's where the stakes are okay Which i'm okay with by the way more stake stuff But it doesn't really work with falcon. Anyway Where are they gonna get this money from? Well, let's try a bank loan uh bank loan falls through and then we have episode two three four Where everybody's lives are ignored because we've got plot to do Come back on five So now so what's the solution and it's like well, you know how and these lines actually Fucking kill me to listen to and I know we're skipping around but that's okay They're like, hey, you know how mum used to feed everybody all the time like you also do You know, you take care of literally everyone It's like excuse me And it's like so a lot of them will probably feel like they owe us favors, right because you know We're just so amazing and we look after everybody in this community. It's like, yeah It's like, what have we called everybody to fix the boat and then they do Now That was pretty dissatisfying for a lot of people. I saw a lot of complaints about that I was like, what they just had to call neighbors that was the end of the problem It's like, ah, but it's on the theme. You see we have to work together for each other. It's like, no, but it just doesn't It just feels so like oh We're all in this together painting family boats because the bank hate blacks So They don't address the problem though, which is they don't have money It wasn't that the boat needed fixing it was the boat needed fixing so they could potentially sell it They just skip over that part of the season. They're like, well, we fix the boat and then they don't sell it, right? They don't yeah They keep the boat because it's a part of their legacy. No money The problem was that they were at risk He says like I'm invested in this because the house is about to be sold because they can't keep everything running And of course he loves the house. That's his parents. That's where he grew up. You're like, okay, I understand that And so at the end of the film well the the story line is like well the boat's fixed It's like that doesn't address the problem. Like what are you guys talking about? You don't have any money. I thought that was the point that it's just like I picture people out there being like Well, he has money now because They're like no no No, no that never happened. You're imagining that in your head optimists that you are You know what? You know what they did? This is the seventh source of income He gets he opens up the wings of the falcon suit and just chips off a little bit of vibranium And just sells that because it's probably worth fucking thousands and thousands of dollars There you go, did it could he chip chip it off? Um, maybe with bucky's help with his arm And around like to breaks it off with like You're most funny every time falcon shows up for a mission. He's got less and less wings I'm selling them It's crazy that small last time. He's like, yeah, yeah, it's always been like this Again, the boys is a more realistic version of what the mcu should actually be doing even though it's supposed to just make fun of all of this Right, you would have a business guy turn up and be like mr. Uh, mr. Fowler, mr. Sam You're uh, can you in exchange for contract signing and uh, you know, fucking a hundred thousand dollars or some shit We want you to appear on our you know show as a sort of attraction And do a couple speeches, uh five times throughout the year as like a tour Uh agree or don't And then he could be like is that worth it? Is it worth selling out almost like the treating captain america is not this hero That needs to come in where where they needed but as a sort of commercialized sort of thing But I get to look after my family and my uh Again, just a storyline they could do but they just don't because they don't know what the fuck they're doing They're just like he's poor shut up. You're like, okay You say so um Yeah, really hard to believe because he simply wouldn't be poor is kind of where we're going with that um Which leaves us with the uh the flag smashes plant line Again, nothing works in this show unfortunately, so the way it begins Is uh falcons friend like literally he is the only person in the government that apparently like gets an eye on this Shit himself. He happens to be friends with sam He sees them in person He sees them do stuff that implies they must be super soldiers We call sam and he's like look at this shit and sam is like, okay, buddy Keep keep this between us what No, he works for the government. Why would he what? It's so strange Like I can't even think of a reason why falcon would want that It's like you don't want the government to know there might be super soldiers running around doing super soldiery things why After they just hurt your friend Yeah, that made me think that he was shady. I thought that's that's what was gonna how it was going to end up He was one of the flag smashers Oh, I thought you meant falcon No, I mean, I mean the latino dude the friend calling the black guy shady. That's fucked up So Yeah, the scene itself. I don't really care about this this closing the distance again This is like isn't me just stuff. They're stealing things and then Yeah, the friend is just like it's confirmed flag smashes are Clearly juiced up on something And so when you get to the next episode falcon wants to go inspect this himself and I have no idea why I just got nothing Someone's really got him into this I guess because his friend was involved. It's just like, uh, maybe that person makes I guess Maybe but that would mean that he cares enough because his friend got hurt for him to go there himself to check out But not enough for him to like tell the government or any of the other avengers or anybody It's just news, you know the flag smashers this group of people who are like stealing and killing They're super charged might be um A stupid shit. They say one of the big three which is not a Androids aliens and wizards, which doesn't make sense considering how many people you fought are not andro You've only fought robots once So I don't know why they'd be the big three Aliens. Yeah, okay wizards. It's like how many wizards have you fought? How many wizards have you fought? Well, the problem is right when he says yeah, but he's an alien So what so is he vote which one is he an alien first or a wizard? I feel like he's an alien first then a wizard. Wow damn In terms of you know, it just in terms of categorization. All right, it just makes it easier I think someone's profession is more important than their race ringy. Okay. I feel like Yeah, apparently not apparently wizarding You seem as an alien first in a wizard second I'm going so if you said we got to fight one of the big three and you said humans and wizards Are you not a human before you're a wizard? I No, I see. Yeah. No, I said no. You had it and you don't I said no No, I said I don't care that you said no, it's not a valid Well, then you haven't got a gotcha. Do you you just you just fought in the wind now What do you mean fought in the wind? Your your complaints just pile in with nothing. Who cares? I can't smell it. Whatever you can believe that When did no bullshit get into the call? Yeah, which are you first a wizard? Or an alien really fucked up for you. That's okay. We all know who won this debate. No bullshit You're arguing full so Yeah, that that's that and the the reason I bring this up is because if the government knew it changes everything Simple as that Absolutely the whole well, you will the government's involvement in the plot Is a really weird issue that persists for the entirety of the show Oh, and you know, there's gotta be someone out there who's listened to this without having seen the show and trying to follow a Storyline they might be like Hey, what do you mean? How is falcon operating on missions without the government? How does that work? Wait, hold on. I got a counter to your wizard shit It took me a while, but I got it. I thought you won. I thought you'd won already. I have one, but I'm extra one now The reason why remember remember it was sam who said it I'm talking about whether or not that's something sam would say and what he means when he says that And as has been established sam is a bad person maybe so Yeah, you got me sam is a bad person. That's right Um, what was I even saying? Yeah, so people who are like, oh, you know, how is falcon doing missions when You know, what do you mean like not tell the government but also do the mission? How does that work? It's like well as bucky and falcon describe it. They are free agents What does that mean? Especially with one division mentioning it once I thought the accords were a thing. What happened guys Yeah, if if you guys like civil war and you should and if you don't you're wrong This show takes a big Crap all over civil war and what that movie was about and what it tried to address And what it attempted to put into place for the universe moving forward This show doesn't give a fuck that civil war happened And I want I want to make sure it's worse than you think guys It's not just that they go to different countries and do whatever the fuck they want with whatever tech they want They also use government like transport It's like How does this work? How like how is this possible? How is actually after a big zemo out of jail? I remember when that happened. I'm like, oh, so they're fugitives now So they're gonna be gone for that the show destroys itself before we get to the part where it obliterates itself. Okay There's a lot of worse things to come That's the thing I would say the first episode was probably the best and then it just tanks But the first episode was not very good Like a second episode is just shit Because yeah from what we've covered. It's like there's a lot of problems, but at the same time it's like It's it's sludge. It's very very sludgy probably Um, yeah, so before we move to episode two actually the only thing left is they introduce walker He is the new captain america, which makes complete sense the government would probably want music Yeah Oh, what have they done? They gave someone else the shield It's like So, bro, by the way, 10 minutes ago um Apparently brown table tweeted 10 minutes ago that that tweet is fake Definitely if it is uh, that's what he says Yeah, I hope it's good. I hope it's fake. Yeah But here let me uh, let me pull it up for y'all here And if so that's quite good. I'm god. It's fake Well, I mean it should say something that um That's why it surprised me. Yeah, because we all didn't think it would be from him. So that's good Yeah, which makes total sense. Yeah, he's he's not right, but he doesn't seem that malicious, you know He said if it was real he said if it was real mola would have replied It's like he's very right But the thing is I just assumed it didn't get to me before he deleted it or something Yeah, that's what I was thinking There's already a lot of retweets and upvotes for it. So wouldn't didn't people yada yada if you're assuming it is real I don't think well I guess it's weird that something like this would only now get to our attention with that amount of traction and that amount of retweeting So you know Is there like a paper trail we can follow as to like who He says that it's fake that he never said that it doesn't seem like something he'd write Not to mention there is a bonus he gets as well say for example He did actually write it and it was proven at least he's now already basically said that he doesn't agree with the sentiment You know, that's a plus. Yeah That's pretty solid in all honesty like just to see that and then like yeah, dude. I I don't mean this so it's like Good on your brown table I'm gonna retweet him saying it as well because I want to make sure we get that out As much as like I said, that's probably why I introduce it first It's like a um talk about the sentiment first and then talk about how whether or not brown table saying it kind of sucks But I don't think he did Uh, according to this that's good Oh Left a tweet on there as well. I want him to know that I appreciate that good stuff Anyway, this dreaded shot Here we are putting it up So this is even from the way they did this, uh, I think Fringy rags and I were like, oh boy, he's gonna be the bad guy. Yeah, we knew that he danger danger Yeah Looking at him and it's just like this dark moment. It's like why it's like, you know nothing about him at all It's when you like to find out that he's a hero. So Whatever like like Sam you turned down the shield and gave it to a fucking museum Like and there's there's terrorists running around the world's in disarray. Did you not think they would replace this? So useful vibranium is so useful you can't just leave it in a museum Um, right just want to mention someone said you were very quick to forgive there It's like yeah, because I believe him. I don't I didn't think it was something he would say And so I'd be close to if it turns out fucking it flips back. I'll be like, well, that's all quid like Yes, uh, there is no well, they wouldn't show very confused I would say by the way, there's nothing to forgive if he actually didn't put out the tweet Wouldn't need to forgive anything There's no reason to But yeah, uh anyway Because I just want to make sure it's clear because obviously the the beginning of this efep would still make people believe he did send it and so as long as they got this far Maybe I'll put it in the top of the description. I guess hopefully people read things Mm-hmm. Um, but I was careful to say we didn't know it was from him for sure because uh Yeah, the point I'm trying to make here is I don't want any damage going to brown table or something he didn't say Yeah, I mean, yeah, everyone guessed it wrong because we assumed it wasn't him It'd be like it doesn't sound like something that he'd say so, yeah Um, and and again the part where he said anyone who watches it is racist That's like I just don't think you would say that I don't think anybody would it's a little bit of a weird thing to say right? Definitely odd So walk is evil. Um By virtue of existing definitely And then next episode it's like wow three metal levano. Wow. It's crazy. Oh, uh I've seen some people I was like Drinkers told me he is on the way because as lately as minutes ago. He's on the way. So Don't worry. We'll get his perspective fully as well that fucking racist I can't wait to discover what it may be very racist Um, so yeah, that's it for episode one. Like I said None of us recommend the show anyway, but like if If you had to watch one episode, I guess it would be the first one Yeah It's the least depressing Maybe it destroys the lead Pose like the characters are relatively intact at the end of it. It's just a lot of stupid plot stuff happens Yeah, and there's this setting up for where we're going and just just raise my brows you're like Hmm Why are you saying these weird things the way we're going and what the fuck's going on with the wheel building, but um Yeah, the first thing that like Struck me of what I was thinking about the the Logistics of how we end up on that highway scene by the way was it's a mission that falcon does because of the flag smash of stuff He's borrowing equipment from the government without telling them anything about what's going on by the way, uh when When the government issued heroes catch up with them they say that they tracked red wig It's like oh you didn't track the fact that he fucking took this All this government equipment that he must have signed for he must have had explanations for like there's no way you can just go Oh, I want that mine. Yeah, he can't just take it whatever he wants I mean, it doesn't really belong to him does it Even archer had jokes about the fact that like archer couldn't just get whatever weapons he wanted There was an armory that he had to visit and he had to get clearance and archer is a show that's like a parody Imagine being worse at world building than a show that's parodying other content. It's funny So, yeah, uh, that all happens and that would be bad enough But how do we get falcon and winter soldier to fight together? You know, we got to get that happen and how are we getting that happening? It's like well bucky decides To go to him that day and be like, hey, you shouldn't have given up the shield He phoned ahead Hey, I have no idea Whoever sam works for it is like, hey like where is he? He's like he's a free agent. He can do anything he wants It's so lame bucky goes on this entire mission just because he happened to show up like one minute before falcon left And he was like, yeah, I'll come I guess Does the psychiatrist not have any feeling that this like is he allowed to do that? Well, you see when you when you're dealing with a potential psychotic who might kill people and is trying to talk down to Talk down about like like all of his issues and stuff Can he go on a mission to go and attack a bunch of super soldiers in the we're at munich? It's like, yeah I guess so I feel like there's supposed to be a lot of build up uh for the meeting again because like She made like the the shrink made such a big deal about him not connecting with people He hadn't called sam So I thought it'd be like at least until episode three is when they start hooking up again and working together But like no, he just shows up at this random bunker. It's like sam. You shouldn't get up the fucking shield This is an mcu tv show. There's no time to Yeah, because as we see with wonder vision you're penalized by the audience if you spend a lot of time trying to build up something The high the best shows in that show the lowest rated show episodes And the highest rated ones are like the finale in episode eight and again penalized for doing this The finale of wonder vision is like the worst piece of mcu content. It exists. It just destroys everything Not that winter soldier didn't try the show. I mean You gotta try it very hard Even I think after when he just walks on to the scene it is like I think falcon is like nice to see you too. It's like, yeah, that's how we feel. We're like, what the fuck? Why is this happening? And it's funny because like all the time they could have spent to justify that they may have crossed paths and ended up on a similar mission They cut all that out in favor of having their banter It's the big three. What about wizards wizards are sorcerers with hats How do you know that I've read the hobbit when it came out t he Uh, I saw somebody somebody somebody mentioned by the way that are apparently in 1937 They're only about 5 000 issues of the hobbit printed. So I guess bucky Got one of those 5 000 copies big into talking. Whoa Oh, yeah, big into talking before it was even a thing to be big into talking Yeah, let the writers have they win. Okay. He's he's from back then. That's where the books are from They're really proud of the sorcerer with a wizard and a hat thing Like it's just annoying to listen to because it's not applicable You go through the MCU and the majority of the things they fight aren't even in those fucking three How do you cut out super soldiers? Which by the way later on walker mentions like oh Is it part of the one of the big three and super soldiers like they mention it as a fourth category? He's like, how is that not one of the main that's the main thing you fight They're like from other countries And again not the one of the three because they barely even you fought ultron. That's it. Yeah Unless they count iron man Again from sam's from sam's bigoted perspective the only wizard they fought is dr. Strange and they haven't fought him No, yeah, well does scarlet witch count? She's not a wizard. She's a witch And you're actually No, I'm not actually upset about that But I feel like a witch and a wizard would fall under the same category A wizard is a male witch This is the funniest fucking shit I've enjoyed this They're all using they're all using that's like saying that's like saying harry potter's a mage and I'm like, yeah He is well, isn't harry potter a wizard Well, yeah, he's that too I'm pretty sure a warlock is a male witch and like So what is a witch a female war as I've understood as I've understood it The whole idea of a witch is that you're like almost predisposed to being able to do this Whereas if you're a wizard, you just have to train no matter who you are If you get what I mean, that's always been my impression. I don't why would you have that impression? I'm I think Conversation, let's get to the show god damn it I'm freaking continue No All right, I I don't know where I got that from but I'm pretty sure that I'm right about that So I'm not the I think that the the differences in terminology are essentially just different flavors of an extremely similar Thing they're all magic users It's just we just separate them by like made the gender like witch and warlock or no I'm sorry of magic Bucky Bucky was right when he said that Dr. Strange is a sorcerer and not a wizard What's the difference between the two? All right, hold on He had to stretch to google Because I mean as far as I know A wizard and a sorcerer Like because I've always I've always seen them. I've always well, I'm fine. I've always Heard them be used interchangeably So it says that a wizard is a practitioner of magic Um How is this happening? It was like the specific practice rather than just like the magic or like your gender, right? The only time I've heard them differentiated is talking about like classes in d&d Like otherwise they're not all of us play d&d. So there are definitions beyond d&d Well, he said well, that's the only one that I've heard and you don't have to play d&d to have that be the only thing you've heard Okay, that's just the only time. I've I've seen them be Differentiated in a meaningful way. Hold on. Hold on. I'm just doing my research Because I I I'm just going by what my understanding is of these these terms. All right, let's see wizard versus sorcerer A wizard is born an ordinary mortal Learned magic and spells from books A sorcerer is born a sorcerer, but needs to learn spells possibly of a certain type from a master That's one answer. So it says where's that from I've never heard that before So this one's from something called english.stackexchange.com Stack exchange stacks of stacks of magic scrolls Uh now a power. Oh, oh here we go. So there's a sorcerer more powerful than a wizard d&d So you're like this one A sorcerer is a bit more versatile in their casting because they can use any spell that they know without having to prepare an advance the meta magic also gives a bit more control over exactly how they use given spells in contrast A wizard has more total spells. They can have access to if they can prepare those spells in advance Uh, in addition to such a wizard gets more potent spells because they can specialize in particular schools And because of illusory reality at level 14 if you go down the illusion path Oh, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah So it's a can't believe rags who plays dnd is that uneducated about dnd. What did I say that's uneducated about dnd? I'm right They they are they are different things in dnd. That's what I said I've said the only place that I have heard the two Differentiated has been in dnd because they're different classes Here's the most important part. The most important part is you witch and and warlock are absolutely different from like Wizards, which is something that I said earlier. Are they absolutely different? All right, witch versus wizard You didn't even know You said so confidently and now you're you're looking it up to jack I need I need I need the evidence to support my position. All right Because I I always assume that the the point that's being that the important point is that they're all users of magic So this is so differentiating between a sorcerer and a wizard doesn't actually have any meaningful difference Of which practices witchcraft whereas a wizard practices wizard craft Okay. Well, I okay. I see where this is going this. Thanks. Thanks Oh, this is getting confusing now because it says wizard usually not always Refers to a male while witch can refer to any gender. I thought that I thought it was you know in the same way a lot of sheep And so like there's the ram and whatever the woman sheep is is just cheap Right, isn't isn't you or is that right? You're right. Actually. Yeah. No, I think a no a lamb is a lamb A lamb is a lamb are you? Well, let's say male lamb versus female So a so an adult female is uh, this is for lambs an adult female is a you uh, and An in an intact male is a ram And a castrated male is a weather Damn And a young sheep is a lamb Yes, that's that's correct. I'm glad we got we got somewhere good. This was this was very good Yeah, so this makes sense. I'm glad I was right Guys, I keep it stocked up good in the winter soldier now. It's like far more general to 101. It's great Hey, hey trigger. Is there a difference between a witch and a wizard? That's not about like just gender Why are you gonna start this shit up again? I mean, this is based on my pretty limited knowledge of witchcraft All right. All right. What about that? Is there a difference between like a wizard and like a sorcerer? Well, yeah, I'll do you agree with Yeah, exactly because well, no when he said obviously he was being sarcastic No, because he agrees that Sam was being really prejudiced and biased when he said that It's not right to say that a sorcerer is just a wizard without a hat. That's not I'm fine I'm fine. I won't lose a wink of sleep if I call a wizard a sorcerer Okay, maybe you won't but I just fear the example Huh What about the people I'm not talking about like I'm not talking about their race or anything. All right Maybe that's as important to them for them. That's what this Shows more important because it's no not the race. No, no, no, I didn't say the rice I said the the wizard the witchcraft or whichever one you are whatever you so wouldn't that help my point How would it help your point? I don't even know what you just said. Yeah, exactly sit out No, it doesn't matter because I don't I don't see people like that fringy I'm past that I'm saying that you do though. That's the point. I'm making based on what they're all that No, no, they're all the same to me. They're all let's think they're all the same to me We should all strive to be magic blind here. Yeah, I'm magic blind. Yeah, they're all wizards or sorcerers. It's fine But but you need to understand that there is deep history to each of these terms. Oh, yeah These terms are very loaded historically with the the the oppression that witches have had to go through Is different than the oppression that wizards are having to go through. That's probably Yeah, well, no because that's real. That's just oppression against people that those people didn't like Unless we're talking about oh Oh wait in so in the mcu We're like this are the witches unlike the Salem witch trials and stuff where they actually witches. Yes They're witches and dr. Strange is a sorcerer Sure Yeah, so it's almost like in the context of the mcu. They're not the same. No, if you want to dr. Strange Oh, they're they're basically the same. They're basically the same but i'm fine with you being even more specific Skull at which was born with hex probabilities dr. Strange had to learn how to be a wizard. That's fine That's fine. They both are indistinguishable in practice But i'm fine with you being extra specific. Do you think that they're in do you think that they they can't be distinguished? Do you actually think that? No Well, I mean you could tell like one's green and one's red, but in the sense that they are both people who use magical abilities Braggs, they all look the same to me man. They all look the same to me I know drinker and I we're on the same page here. I mean we know Doesn't cast hex probabilities that stop bombs from exploding and he had to learn how to become cool Which I feel like there could be a spell I feel like we could have a spell about Disarming disarm bomb spell. I guess we'll find out and dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness when they delve into this in More detail and it doesn't destroy the world building. I'm sure it'll be great I think that was sort of uh like part of one of my issues with dr. Strange was that I feel like magic can do Anything that it needs to do. It's very It creates a lot of plot issues because it doesn't seem to have a lot of structure or rules to it It's uh, it's kind of a shame because dr. Strange is actually I really like dr. Strange the character I just want to see more of him reading books and learning stuff and going on adventures I agree. So anyway, drinker. What do you think? Back to D&D All of us gave a big blurb at the beginning, right? So if you want to you want to take your your time to say I know you put a video out But you know what what if someone didn't see it where if they were they were on the road They haven't caught it yet. What do you think of this show like overall and feel free to be 100 honest I I think it was fantastic and like I didn't want it to end Like I could have seen 60 episodes of this shit And I think we need to start more important conversations as a result of this show Uh, no on a serious note though. No, it was um For me, it was just a pretentious preachy Pointless piece of shit You know, it was a complete waste of six hours a waste of two like really good characters particularly bucky Um, it was great to see you had like all these deep-seated emotional issues Which came into play in like the first episode and then just got fucking ignored For pretty much the rest of the show It's great to see that the Wakandan spear ladies can be up basically anyone even some of the most powerful warriors In the mcu. So awesome there. Um, oh, they have speed. Yeah, I learned important lessons that racism is wrong So, yeah, thanks. Well, can I was right until I watched the show Yes, I thought it was a good idea. Yeah, and then it's like no, it's not. It's a bad idea Yeah, this fixed me. I was I was a broken horrible person and then I had a man in one of the So someone in the discord voice chat yesterday said it was garish And I think that's a really good way to describe the the falcon captain america suit right now Garish Yeah, it looks like a train from fucking the boys It looks like He does kind of even well first off. I mean not all black superheroes look the same But I see what you're saying It's the same color scheme though. Even the glassies and everything now. It's just like It's like I feel like when I look at him like I feel I can hear his costume Yeah He looks uncomfortable Yeah There's so many questions I have about all this as well like, you know when You know for the majority of the show John Walker is is captain america And so he's going around investigating trying to uncover the you know the identities of the flag smashers But he's going around in full captain america gear Which just seems fucking ludicrous. Like that's what you wear when you go into battle It's not what you wear when you're intel gathering and you're just walking every minute is battle for justice That gets especially weird If you're if you're just going around like uh, lithuania when he's trying to like find out what their next Like target is going to be you kind of want to be inconspicuous You don't want to be there as captain america Well, they have one because he wasn't wearing it on the scene where he talked to lemar Yeah, one scene with a they're out of costume in like a cafe or something and they talked it's like oh my god Look normal clothes Wait, what about the scene where they're discussing their plan in public and a bunch of people around? Remember that that was a good time Which uh, which one is that remind me when they're talking about the plan to go to the funeral And oh, yeah Yeah, they're just discussing the plan. Yes. Yes Walker shows up and they're just shouting about this in the middle of the street There there was something as well about like I know casting is kind of subjective, but like the actress that they got to play carly Um When I was talking about it in my review I likened it to like they didn't give her the script in advance They just gave her a teleprompter out of shot and just told her to read off it Like with no context for anything because like her delivery was just absolutely shocking I get that part of it was like she needed to be young I guess because falcon comments on it But I was like, oh, I feel like you needed the actual character for this character to be old like seasoned aware of the world and how everything's gone before you know Not this naive idiot this child I was gonna say she just comes off like some bitch on twitter She's kind of yeah, yeah Honestly, that's I oh, yeah, well, I'd blow up a building full of people and burn them alive. Yay She's got a really bad word choice for things as well when She has a burn out on a cab and all that Well, it's like when walker confronts her and it's like oh, this is you know over killing lamar and it's like Okay, this is your chance to explain yourself and she's like, oh, I'm sorry. I killed him But he wasn't important to me or something to that effect He's like, that's not the thing you say to his best friend when he's about to kill you, you know There was one scene um where like sam says like, uh, you know, you killed many people and she says In response. Okay, but what if like I'm making a difference? Yeah Do you like how um when he's talking to her she says something that's just like overtly horrible Like she always does that she's like wait a minute. You're making me sound bad You tricked me How could you have done this You have done that worse Why do they have to give her a british accent? I don't be responsible for her like go away It's one of those it's one of those really shit british accents as well that just comes across as really fake Are super standard like like yeah, like it's not from anywhere in britain It's just the generic kind of accent that could be anything That just sounds vaguely british from you know from anyone else's point of view So, um, it's weird to catch you up drink, right? Because of course, we're almost at the three hour mark So naturally we just started talking about episode two. Um, I figured as much. Yeah We're on I'm pushing us along to uh the the highway scene It is the scene that I was basically done with the show in terms of um being like this could be good You know the chances get slimmer and slimmer and once the highway seems over I was like, oh, we're done That's it now. It's great. Is this where they've been to visit? I see her and no no before I almost got arrested. Yeah, okay when they they're following the trucks and they're trying to um, yeah, yeah So I think the as I have seen is in the second half of this episode. Yeah So overall that why did they why did they even let them escape in the truck rather than stop them right there? Like it seemed unnecessary I'm like you would imagine you'd follow them and it'd be better to wait until like they're unloading It's like mr. Mr. Monroe. I have so many questions before that Like so they arrive And like this is what I mean about just telling me stuff about characters, right? I'm gonna pause right here because it's important. Um Falcon's like, I don't like you bucky me and then you just uh, he leaves through the thing Bucky's clearly on this mission. He's following him and falcon even would have here because he's got the earpiece So he knows that he's gonna now jump out Um, I don't even know how to assault this first. Let's just talk logistically. Um, I don't care if you're a super soldier. This could kill you pretty easily The speed you would be going in addition to the fall, it's just there's no way you would survive He doesn't have like just kind of you just kind of relies on like I'm gonna hit some trees on the way down That'll slow me down a bit It just impacts the ground if you have the shield maybe Like you just sort of hold it to yourself and smash through things and then bounce hopefully off the floor But like holy shit, you can still splatter my dude. Like gotta be careful I mean, we know I don't know dude. It's not he's not using that to stop his fall at all With the arm Yeah, you could get him peeled on a fucking tree branch. Like he's not he's not like stab proof yeah, um So that that on its own that was really weird. Um falcon can carry people really easily with his suit Like easily just just grab him with him. We see him do it It's like the first thing we see him do in this fucking season because he does it with that army guy Um, I think you're just taking him down with him, but instead and this is the thing I don't even have to infer this it literally happens. He wanted to record bucky jumping from 200 feet and slamming into the ground Like And should have killed him and he's like hey It's funny because now I have a video of you falling out of a plane and hitting a bunch of trees. It's like dude So you left him without a parachute. Are you kidding me? Um, but interesting thing about the parachute by the way, uh, they like our parachutes aren't fucking useless at this high Up it's like it's not quite that it's the they're not Guaranteed safe they can deploy and they can soften your fall, but you're likely gonna fall anyway And so if you're just gonna jump you may as well take the parachute Um, it's like it could hurt right? It's like and then the other thing he's like we're too low Falcon could just lower you down. He could just hold on to his leg and he could lower you down Well, yeah, that was the first problem. Uh, the third is that uh, this plane It's gonna go back up Maybe just wait a bit or ask him to go up Get that get that extra 50 feet and then jump With the parachute It's all very very strange and you know, you might be like, wow, you're really nitpicking this I'm like, well It's all so stupid. I don't know what to make of it. I mean, it's bucky jumping out of a plane I don't want him to die. I can kill someone even a super soldier. I feel like that could kill you You're leading to that leading to one of the characters jumping out of a plane. It's moving at speed I think that's pretty big if there's a lot of problems that don't make sense surrounding that No, it's hilarious because he falls and then falcon laughs at him Yeah, well, yeah, he properly he properly lands hard and he's like clearly in pain When when falcon finds him. So it's like, yeah, you really didn't think this one through It's not like you you totally had this one in hand and you just You know, you landed easily and made it look made it look cool You were just about fucked up if you had a list This would be one one just one little thing on that list among others of falcon being a bad person And that list gets filled by the time we get to the end of the season and uh, that's when you realize Oh, oh, yeah, this isn't sam wilson the guy that I know from the mcu. This is somebody else This is like a crazy asshole. We got to watch out for him. Hopefully we can stop him Um, it comes clear that he's the villain by the opening of episode four. No, it's a five It comes to the villain when he's the main character This is very obvious. Um, so back to the good old winter soldier needs to be competent He's like walking around this area annoyed and they make jokes about how he keeps staring and then he spots some enemies And he's like, let's go get him Like, oh, maybe we have red wings search the entire area and get us all the information we need You know, I think someone like the winter soldier might be You know familiar with getting as much information you need about an area and your targets before engaging Yeah, no Yeah, bucky is super depowered and Stupid what what stupid yeah mega idiotid What's the phrase they make him stupid and incompetent and way weaker than he should be after watching winter soldier He's insane He's crazy You feel I if you feel like the winter soldier is coming after you you've got some problems That's a really big deal, but I feel like off the barns was coming to get me. I'm like, okay I could probably just hit him with a pan distract him with a flat Yeah, after watching winter soldier, which is worse than far from home. You do get that impression Yeah, yeah, it is worse. Oh my god I'm gonna piss everybody off. But anyway, let's move on But anyway, enough being right carry on So There's uh, there's this idea of like, what do we what do we do next and then falcon's like silly bucky? Let's wait an extra second and then suddenly there's all these other people and he's like see And then bucky says something really weird. He goes Yeah, whatever whatever. Okay, this suit this they got super strength. Whatever What? I don't understand what's going on. It's like, who is this character that you know that they're trying to do buddy cop And they've just they've decided that falcon is the straight man and the bucky's the wild card Like he's not the wild card That's not his thing. It should be the other way. He should this is his element He this is what he does more better than anything else that he does I think there might be no one alive who could do this better than him He might be the best in the world at this But I mean Throughout this whole show. They kind of want to do that whole body Like that line where they say I I went left like you should have gone left Um, and then he says well, it's in every action movie that you're meant to follow me It's like you're in the military my dude Like why are you referencing action movies for what you should be doing in a war? They could be killed the film should have been bucky as the straight man where he is super focused and on task And he is god forbid. I know you're not allowed to do this But he is teaching falcon a lot of stuff about this because if you had this for a job You have this wealth of information Right here in the form of the winter soldier who's now on your team And he could tell you all these incredible amazing tricks and tips and Cool thing in life hacks for super secret spy work and espionage and hello my friends. I'm fps winter soldier Today we're gonna blow up a pretty big youtube channel Yeah, he could yeah, he he could Well, they maintained that that persona for the winter soldier in um In civil war where he's he started to acclimatize a bit more to like dealing with other people But he's still got the the experience and the the combat potential of being the winter soldier Uh, whereas in this one that they've it's like they've just taken the bucky from the first captain america movie and just transplanted him in like his persona Uh, and so yeah, he's trying to crack jokes and he's laughing with people and he's making all these goofy comments And yeah, it's just it doesn't work for him This falcon was in the air force, right? Yes So yeah somewhat different of a branch than yeah, I feel like a peritrooper And what you know the winter soldier is different Different things they have a lot to teach each other and a lot to learn and stuff like that, but I do think an element of it was we can't have bucky the white guy Being superior in situations to the black guy. I I don't think that was something that they could have Done or wanted to do Well considering who wrote it. Yeah, you don't even need to like you don't What you write you have winter soldiers sort of knowledge in his brain And he assaults every single position with the knowledge of I have guns my arm and everything I know about that and then you know, you can have moments where falcon is like Wait, well, I have wings so that changes a lot of what we understand about this situation Like I can fly a different play, you know And every once in a while you might come up with like different ideas for how to Address sitting sitting things that winter soldier didn't quite come up with because it's just not something that he's incorporating But then you can also Related to ptsd stuff, but it's gonna be a little bit tough Say we do establish that a couple of these people are children or at least Teenages and like bucky lays out the plan and he just like casually says like, you know, we can Knock out three of them from before any of them even realize or maybe uses a word a little bit more like I don't know if it executes a bit take them out or something. Yeah, take them out and and falcons just like Are we just gonna is that what and then you know bucky might realize like oh, yeah, maybe we Maybe we shouldn't I don't know and you know just the constant worry of like is he going too far when using what he knows about winter soldier There's so much stuff to incorporate but they don't give a fuck They just want to throw in a couple of jokes and use dynamics that are from other stories that typically work It's like, yeah, straight man crazy man who wants to go guns of blazing versus the one who wants to take it slow And I don't think that that's incorporate again. I think this is the only time they do that Yeah, they they market this is like a buddy cop thing, but it's not really a buddy cop thing at all No, um frustrating too But yeah, so begins Be seen that is there's so many issues with it. It's really hard to talk about at all The uh, they see that the truck really is difficult Um, and this took a while for me to get notes on because I was just having to rewatch it noticing more and more So what we see is there are two trucks and people getting into the back of them And they conclude after scanning that there's three in one truck in the back And the that's fine. They're just in there, I guess, but there's one truck There's a little girl sitting down. Oh, well person sitting down. I have no idea And they're like that could be a hostage. So they immediately like assault the trucks and wouldn't you think like But why was carly back there? Just like well, um Just hanging out. I don't necessarily take that much issue with that There is some logic in putting your one person with the contraband with the stuff to make sure You know, just keep an eye on it. I don't know. Okay. Okay, but she just appears though Yes, she's just sitting there. She's not Yeah, when red wing Yeah, when red wing first analyzes the whole area, she's not there And then suddenly when he analyzed red wing analyzes it again. She's suddenly there She's that evil smile to be like he he I'm the bad guy You are you are right about that. The first scan doesn't show where the second hand does so apparently she climbed in there With no restraints. Oh, that's because red wing scans for souls Oh Yeah, they would have seen her get in is kind of where I was going with that and they know that she's not a hostage But we can't have that because it wouldn't make any sense with how everything else plays out So knowing there's a hostage in there, right? Let's treat it as that if I were with these guys I'd be like we need to find out where these go because they might have more hostages And that means we know where the HQ is and we know where the other ones are And then bucky goes no, I am all guns blazing. I wish to jump on there and rip the doors off and pull them out And I'd be like that's insane. That's on a highway. There's so many things that could go wrong We don't even know who all these people are what they can do Bucky you're acting a little strange, dude Again, what's wrong? What's going on with you? Yeah, what's going on? Someone has an attack of the dum-dums and so They don't do that nor do they tag these If you remember in the opening of civil war, um, he says sam tagged the garbage truck because they think that something's going wrong Was it something's up with the garbage truck? Basically They don't attach any trackers or any any signal at all to these things and by the way by the time we reached the walker getting here They established they've lost them. They don't know where they went They're on a fucking highway. They're two enormous red trucks. You had a helicopter I don't think it's gonna be that hard to find them and like satellites and in theory How how much of the u.s military should be aware of this and they must have license plates, right? Yeah, yeah, and sam of course They just give up because they crashed it's like why not just fly back and get back into the fight But they just don't this is like batwoman logic, you know, uh, they just let the bad guy get away Even though they could stop them. Yeah, well, he's out of he's out of frame They run they run around a corner. It's like no, well, they're gone. Which right I can't quite make out if they have license plates, but if they don't then they get them pulled over, right? Yep Oh, yeah, it doesn't work either way. Sorry, but uh, yeah, so you read this is how we're gonna do this scene rewind again Right without those are all problems. But now we go back again. So The trucks that they see leave the first selection has a whole bunch of people in the back The second one has one girl in the back and falcon starts running after them Then I mean weird happens They switch positions the trucks the one with all the people that was in the front is now at the back And the one with the girl in the front is now in the front Don't know why that happened um So like that shouldn't be happening anyway, but it does I think they were on a I think they run a A passing lane Meaning what? Oh, I mean, I never mind it was it's just a little little joke. It's a little It's a little road humor For the boys back home For all my front to all our To all our viewers out there trucking down the highway keeping america running. That was one I like the idea of road humor. It's like what what exactly is right? Oh, you know Well, you know, maybe if you don't know it's you know, it's it's a you know I I have some sense of idea. I'm just I'm trying to keep it elusive for all those people who don't understand how roads work Those non-adults people Like you. Yeah So If that wasn't weird enough cw macaw bucky gets in front of one of the trucks to jump on the second one now First thing we thought when watching this was whoa bucky. They can see you There's a driver They probably got comms. Yeah Instinctively goes into Rather than like letting them see you because they could send more people it's just like It's such a weird plan of attack. It's an immediate catastrophe. He's gone for the wrong truck That's got more risk, but he turned out to be in the right truck But he doesn't alert the other driver somehow apparently he can't really tell I guess the driver's just like what's that guy with the arm doing? That's kind of strange how a guy just sort of like flew in while we were driving down Is opening up the truck in front of me with my friends in it. That's weird Some leather bar douchebag is in one of my trunks. Who should I do? Yeah, I mean it would honestly be a great cue for comedy because it's just you'd have to rely on winter soldier To be the fucking moron, but you have the driver go uh the winter soldier is on the trucks guys like We got to do something. Jesus. What do you mean? Is this is code for something? The cold soldier. What does this mean? Um, so rewind again, right? Because that's how this works. Okay Falcon can fly. I don't know if you guys knew this. I want to make sure we have this established He runs out uh lucky falcon flies out and you have this shot right here. It's a very important shot I'm going to make sure everyone can see so two trucks Falcon's already above both of them Lucky is yet to catch up with the one in front We have a scene that's about another two minutes before the fight begins and then about Three or something before falcon shows back up falcon just disappears Despite the fact that he should be moving faster than everybody There is no reason for this outside of trying to build tension for the fact that bucky could get Something bad happened to him and falcon will do his hero entrance. It is stupid as hell And it risks bucky dying. So it's a point against stupid falcon He sends a red wing in first by the way, but he flies away Launches red wing it gets destroyed and then comes in. Is he just a coward? What's happening? I You would think that you would think that red wing would be there like the recon thing from the beginning And then they but the both of them together would be nearby ready to make a move or Prepping an ambush or yeah, red wing would use a scan to see what's inside the you know truck and stuff Such a shame Such a shame So yeah, um, we've almost I think that's about it for the Before anything happens problems. So now things start to happen. Unfortunately Lucky opens it up And this is just a point against carly, but I honestly think she's like satan in this tv show So whatever but the show isn't aware of it You're in the back of this truck. You got all your vaccines that you're hoping to get to the people you love So okay fine Now scenario one you have no idea who the winter soldier is So this guy jumps in and you hear him say, huh looks like they're transporting vaccines Um, this is weird and then you see him fully and he goes. Oh like I found the hostage. Are you okay? That's all you've got and she tries to kill him Thank you for saving me It's insane and it would have shown so much of her intelligence if she said something like that like oh, thank god You've come uh, you know who sent you? How did you know about this? And he'd be like, you know Yeah, just do whatever you can and then but once it's too late you then reveal but instead she does this like evil smile Like she relishes this is what I mean about like how she shocked that lamar died. She's like, oh, yes A kill like just for me What the hell's going on? Um But scenario two she knows who the winter soldier is in which case Wouldn't she just be thoroughly curious as to why he's here Like what's yeah, it's like. Oh shit. We've been like found. We've been discovered. What what the hell Yeah, and then how does how this happened? Who is this guy? He's not attacking me on site. So he must not know who I am That's weird. Fucking smile, dude. I don't know what they thought they were doing What emotion she's From his from like an entertainment perspective, I think what the the creators were going for is like, ah, things aren't what they seem But boom, she's actually a bad guy and then the audience goes. Whoa, that was shocking. Oh my goodness But you have to consider it Ignoring those fuckers in the audience. Okay. What is it from her pov and it is literally I can't wait to hurt you Why Fighting it's like, oh, okay Cool to know carly now, um Whether or not she knew he was a super soldier This could have killed him easily right because you just have the truck He hits the side then the truck runs over and he's fucking dead. So He's fucking dead Now we're gonna rewind The rewind once again one freckler for each kill Now can you see this shot? She is evil right before she knocks him back You can see the uh the truck Nobody there Hmm. Hmm and then boom boom He's like, oh boy. Lucky. I go. Oh Looks like there's some people there I don't know how that happened. It looks like they teleported up there. Just just in case this happens. Um I would I would be very forgiving of this if the rest of the stuff in this that didn't happen. So Uh, winter soldier sucks like completely And he gets picked up, right? I can't I can't imagine the one from winter soldier or civil war would would accept this I just don't think you would like that kid. It just wouldn't be able to have it They pick him up by his arm and then just like hold him while punching him And he's just like, oh Oh, you got me. It's like, what the hell is happening? I know someone's gonna be like, well, they're super soldiers. It's like, I don't care But they are just regular people that have been dosed with the super soldier serum So they're stronger. Yeah, but they don't have combat experience whereas he's got decades of it It's like even if you're outmatched strength wise, you must be able to use that to your advantage His vibranium arm is going to be able to do something Yeah, like getting punched by that. Oh, fuck It's like a it's essentially like a sledgehammer hitting your face and that will kill you like getting punched by that metal arm Very likely could just kill you. Here's a reference. Yeah, that would shatter all the bones in your face Yeah, when uh, when he goes to stab cap with his Vibranium arm in winter soldier cap manages to sort of hold it for a moment And then there's like this sort of sense of it being charged up or really pushed and then cap like can't hold it It comes into him and he has to dodge it basically like it overpowers him. That was the metal arm Not the vibranium one Oh So, yeah, I don't know We have to watch bucky be shit and then it's for a joke redwing tins up And uh fies a minigun by the way or whatever this is a collie misses every single shot Even though and I really have to show this she grabbed it by its like nose where the bullets were fucking coming out Your hand is doomed No, it isn't no it isn't shut up So she should be in serious pain and will dead Um, she should be dead here. It makes no sense how she survived It makes no sense why redwing got within grabbing distance when it has a firearm Redwings just as dumb as everyone else. I guess and also can fly Uh, it makes absolutely no sense, but No, I did She's a she's a kid who wanted to be a teacher. She wanted to be a teacher She's got zero, but now she's like better than winter soldier She goes toe to toe with like everybody in the show several times And what was she before this she was just like some National kind of person. She was just like a refugee. I think she Yeah, I think she she wasn't like any kind of aid worker or government person or anything She was just a refugee that's uh got taken in by someone Well, she was taken in by uh, Sharon and apparently she worked for her for a little bit But then she was like, I don't want to take over the world. I want to change it. That's the difference between those two apparently By the way, if you want to change the world taking over it's probably a good first step Actually, you can probably do some, you know, she's evil is what i'm saying. Like why the hell does she care about the difference? So, yeah Then she just breaks it And so this is where we get the reveal for why bucky has been shitting this whole scene So he can the camera can go right up to him. He says, oh, I always wanted to do that It's such a light dude It's a real continuity error right there too. Like she jumps up. She's far away from them And suddenly when she's back down and she's right next to him again Oh The choreography in this show is awful just in terms of like spatial awareness Yeah A lot of yeah the fight actual choreography is pretty pretty weak and that's that's the thing And look out again Marvel was always like the the fight scenes in the movies were generally pretty tight and well constructed and imaginative and characters Like did smart things whereas here it's just so sloppy And again winter soldier sucks. Look at the leverage this this guy has on his metal arm And he's about to punch him and bucky's just gonna take it because bucky sucks like he doesn't do any It's so easy to get out of this grip and bucky just doesn't takes the hit. There you go And then they play the the heroic music because falcon's coming in guys his falcon is Big here. It's like where the fuck were you and the thing is arriving They lamp they're joining the show. Yeah winter soldier literally says thanks for joining the fight. It's like You can't just say it's a problem Like where the fuck was he? I wanted to use red wing to watch you get your ass kicked You also just uh, I wanted to punish red wing for being a naughty boy Yeah, he propels in fucking twirls and kicks Uh carly all she does is fall directly down if he had kicked her and she just fell off the You know the truck it's done, but no she falls directly down to make sure she doesn't roll anywhere Because that's how physics works. Yep. And then um, they have a quick fight. She beats him obviously because Carly she's fucking green And so this is probably the most frustrated. Well, it's part of the most frustrated part of all of this They're both done like they they're captured. Um, they both lose their respective fights No, no, he kicks one of them and then he gives up again because he sucks Um, by the way, these two people just these two people just appear and then he decides to do the fucking legs These two people appear and she tosses falcon to them, right? And so now just tossed him to the You know between the trucks and well he can fly so I might Might have a bit of you might come back. You know better take his head off. That's the true hero's way Uh So this is our stakes now. We've got two people are holding down falcon both super soldiers two people holding down Uh bucky super soldiers and a person on either truck preparing to execute So they're done. That's it. We lost everyone. What a show. So sad. If only they were more competent then As if against all odds In comes a new character that doesn't get the appreciation he deserves Um, by the way, he has like a ninja helicopter. This is the I don't understand how nobody heard it coming But it's just there Like oh suddenly helicopter and holy shit He threw the shield down at someone to deflect whatever they're about to do to falcon And it comes all the way back up to him and it bounces up. Yeah I think it's pretty safe to say that after watching the show the shield Is a wizard I don't know. Look at this. I think both work Look at look at this The momentum he has when he gets off this helicopter Right because he's there now think of the leverage you you mainly have your legs to bounce off if you crouch He sort of just Just flings forwards like yeah, I mean It's the kind of thing we give away to like cap But this is before he gets his super soldier serum. He's doing all kinds of well Remember when we were watching this shot first We assumed he was a super soldier with all Yeah, because of yeah because of how he can throw the shield around and that sort of thing Yeah, and also. Yeah his legs. They're those knee bones Those the the balls that you have there on tell us Yeah, whatever whatever he had there. They are dust after landing on that truck And yeah Lamar gets the backup hit and these two arrive and save our hero's lives and save the hero's lives And what do they have? What do they get in? Well appreciation Just yeah, because I'm gonna say like it's kind of neat as well because they do all the saving and they land And they've knocked everyone down. They're really happy and then they do their little like secret Your partner handshake thing and it's just like look at these two It's totally ready to save their fellow soldiers and do the right thing. It's like classic Good guys, and then you have like falcon. Look at his face. He's like, oh for fuck's sake. Here they are these guys You're gonna have to die Here comes whitey and coon And unfortunately you have to deal with this more and more as the episodes go on until they eventually break his arm And they even introduce themselves and again falcon's fucking face. I don't understand My favorite part is again people on the internet are saying see he had to declare himself as captain america Not a real king like taiwan said it's a fucking rank. It's a little rank in the government like Yeah, what if they don't know who he is the and they start attacking him And yeah, bucky grabs the shield at one point in this and then you know cap immediately takes it and bucky's like It's like dude. What is why you suck and people like don't you understand? They're upset about the shield Like I really don't care. I consider that incredibly petty. It's like fuck the shield right now How about we just you know stay alive? That'd be great And and all thanks the fact that it's even possible is all thanks to john walker also known as captain america Yes Who more than ends his title What another show agrees? No, he doesn't Um, yeah, then uh, I guess i'm gonna skip a little around because like I don't want to spend a million years on there You know that kind of attitude. Uh, bucky is almost like squashed underneath the truck Uh falcon eventually Again marvel fashion so but instead of immediately saving bucky he goes ha ha you almost got beaten by a little girl I hated that so much And again, so this show was like every everything that marvel movies get criticized for you know like the jokes that are inappropriate and ruin the tone Which is funny because people are now shitting on avengers like oh avengers sucks, but fucking falcon and wins a soldier That's like the best shit this series is ever The show's terrible Again, this is indicative of character and they don't even know he's wasting time while the people who saved his life Are up there against super soldiers falcon doesn't care. Look at him. He's happy And he's trolling bucky as he is close to dying himself Imagine if he said hey that little girl that he'd let go does a flop His head just explodes. It's like oh Oh Well, you know what's real funny is bucky could have just said yeah, you lost to it too just now Oh, he could have said um, fucking help. Yeah, please help Yeah But it's funny because marvel you copy too serious too long. Absolutely not funny No, it's just frustrating watching it. Like why? Um, so then this happens, right? And again, this is why I brought it up. Uh, lemar isn't near death right now Falcons laughing with bucky. So it's fine. Don't worry about that. Also. Keep an eye on this girl. Look at this girl right here She's just like, huh? What's going on? I'm just I'm I'm girl. I stand here. What's my job? She just watches and so while he's battling carly He draws his gun to help labar. It's like wait, you had a gun this whole time He had a gun this whole time while you're on the helicopter. You should have just shot them That would have been yeah, you think you think you just shoot him from the helicopter And yeah, it's a frustration. And so he shoots and by the way girl is still just like whoa My friend just got shot Not only does he shoot he shoots without aiming just eyeballing it at a guy Who's grappling his friend while he's on a moving truck going down the highway. Yep He doesn't shoot the person right in front He doesn't shoot the person who's like right next to him either Yeah, for anyone wondering all the time. He wanted yeah, because that's carly. We can't kill her yet Of course. He is aiming quote unquote, but he's not really a big it's it's pointing I don't know. I think the the guy Yeah, that's you're not allowed to kill terrorists Oh, and it's worth mentioning other activists rags. They're activists and peaceful protesters. This is their truck of peace. Yeah So if I can just get the frame So everybody if you've got the screen up screen up, where was this man shot? Boom That red splatter. Where would you say that is? Like on his heart It looks like it's hot. Oh I see it now. Yeah, that's the heart. He's like dead. I don't know how a super soldier survives that That's cool. And yeah, that's a 45 man. That's a that's no joke. But uh, yeah, he does survive that he comes back later I don't I don't get it. I I thought the super Well as we story or as we saw in winter soldier, which is inferior to far from home when When when captain america gets shot and like for a couple of times he's like down. He's out I think that's yeah, he's he's crawling Well, I thought that was always the idea right with stuff like spider-man captain america is they're really strong But like a well placed shot and that's it game over. Yeah Yeah, it's one of the things that makes them actually, you know, you can feel scared for them even though they're really strong Um, but you know, it's nice to see that he during his own fight will help his pal out Just this is the kind of again like action that tells you about the characters Like this is actually like more of a plus despite how goofy it is It's like yeah, well at least he tried to save him falcon's too busy making fun of his partner to uh save him That's how falcon do um and you even get then uh, we sort of uh This is essentially where the the fight's coming to an end and then the worst thing happens so Caps like trying to stay attached on the back of the van uh falcon grabs winter soldier gets them both out They are safe. Um Unfortunately, of course Lamar still has to deal with uh carly and the other one because not both of them. They didn't get shot And uh, oh, uh, this isn't through watch together by the way. I can't put it in watch together because uh If you pull up my stream, you'll you'll get kind of the context what i'm talking about It's mainly for the audience that I don't confuse them Um, hopefully from memory you kind of get what i'm talking about if you uh don't want to pull it up But that's all good. So Um, again like like lamar's gonna be in trouble because there's three super soldiers with him right now And they all don't care about killing people. So yeah, he's um, he is wrestling them And unfortunately for him because we know how this goes we we know we've got references for this He is uh hit pretty hard by the super soldier In the chest. So I guess he's probably yeah I think he's not gonna make it right from what I understand that kills people At least that's what I got from episode four. So But uh, it's fine. He's gonna be fine cap throws the shield and um, he ends up bouncing on it and uh, he makes it You know what's neat is the is the um Cap like smiles at him. He smiles back. It's like, yeah team work The good stuff and then cap gets back up and he's like, you know what that was a mistake He's gonna try and fight him again. But then um, I would argue he takes an even bigger blow than lamar as uh, Carly the badass that she is grabs his uh attempt at a punch and just slams him So hard by the way he blasts off into a car And uh rolls right, but uh, this by the way, this was when uh freeing myself and rags were like, oh, so he is a super soldier then Yeah Yeah, wait, well, yeah the the shield and how he can tank these hits like yeah And plus it makes sense that this captain america they would have I don't know why they chose him was that he has a serum I mean unless the suit is armored somehow to protect him from this there's no way she Why Yeah, yeah We only had enough of this special stuff for one guy And so you might have been distracted with how shit that scene was from thinking about how wow Falcon and winter soldier ditched them Left them for dead Despite the fact that they have no lives He's yeah, these guys learn insane Yes, and like it was too much for me. I was like, I can't watch this anymore I can't watch falcon fucking bucky be horrible people all the time Didn't even try to catch up with the trucks. Nope Even though like he can run really fast and falcon can fly Well, we saw in in civil war, which is the best captain america movie. Um, they can run really fast Well, they did this Did cap instead of winter soldier as well when he fell off the helicarrier so he can clearly lift people and move them So why not go out and truck He did it did it in episode one. He has the hostage. He can carry bucky Because you're not punched up doesn't mean that you stop Go he's the two lads the savior life is still there. They're both humans. What the fuck is wrong with you people? I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it terrible So, yeah, uh, I was like, oh this show's awful Like it doesn't I'm sure they had no idea when they were writing this what they've just done like in this scene They were just like, no, that's all if it's fun. Shut up. We're having fun. There's jokes so, um it only gets worse because Fucking if i'm gonna have a more banter about fucking the big three. I don't even know. I don't care and then Walker shows up and he's like, hey guys want to ride and they ignore him because they don't like him because Yes, because they're petulant children. Yeah, you you'd think it's so I'll eat male Yeah, you'd think it's fine because they would appreciate that That they would save their lives, but no, they're just petty bitches. They know he is like giga chad He just came in saved their lives. He's uh, he got picked. So he must have been doing something, right? Um, three time medal of honor recipient. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You know, it's not that great It is okay. Yeah But you know Falconers, you know, I think If nothing else like sam would have respect for him since he's a military man himself That's why it's so confusing. Yeah, it's really we even did tours in the same war They're both veterans all the veterans rather I mean Because if he showed up at the vc where you worked before you came falcon Surely you'd be you know talking to him trying to help him deal with the trauma of going to war But and especially he just saved your lives Well, so this was what I was gonna say is if you if we wanted to Craft this ourselves as writers or anything like oh, they they have a bit of a thing for him because he's got the shield And they have like a couple of meetings beforehand. They're just cute with him Um, and they may even have like one argument at some point like whether or not someone's plan should we blah blah The moment he saves their lives in combat. I think that's it then be like, all right. I trust you I I get it. Like you're a good person. Yeah And they open with that it would make yours it would be more interesting from a writing point of view if they actually do trust him Initially, you know, he seems like a decent guy. This is the kind of guy we can work with maybe sam feels almost that You know the shield is in safe hands and only right decision Yeah, and it's only over the course of like the next few episodes that that faith gets gradually undermined And he realizes oh shit. This guy isn't what I thought he was and oh, okay. Yeah, you can move forward from there But yeah, he just hits him right off the bat and it never ends Yeah, the problem is that the show Preempts right so like a lot of people when he's like, oh stay out of my way and screaming about do you know who I am people Like, ah, see he was a cunt and it's like, oh, you didn't know that though Yeah, yeah, but Yeah, that kind of just they kind of just bring it on you out of nowhere We need to we need to post hoc justify why they were being assholes to him when for all they knew at this moment He was a really good guy Yeah, and I feel they could smell the evil auto they could smell it And I feel like him being a cunt later is Assassinating the character they set up because the switch he makes is stupid and I don't buy it I like, you know makes more sense that he's actually kind of a decent guy Yeah, it's probably a good time to to roll back because the part I didn't address yet because I figured it We better do it like now is uh, he gets an intro in this episode and um not even that bad like He's in his uh high school locker room And he's talking to his wife and his best friend obviously being uh, Hoskins lemaha skins. I think is his name And um, there's there's one thing this of note that's just neat that's sort of on its own where he's just practicing announcing himself as captain America And obviously he's trying to get the voice right because you want to come across as strong and You know and everything and so it's just relatable that he would just be like, oh god You know my it just tells you a lot about him already like he's not quite ready It's a big job and he says like of all the things I've done like this is different. This is a constant job this is going to be big boots to fill and um You know the wife is like, oh don't worry like you're going to be great and the same with a friend You know just try to make sure he's going to be all right unzipping the outfit and it's just like, yeah, here we go and then um All of the extravagance of this thing plus the description of his history which unfortunately the writers didn't realize what they'd locked him into They made him like one of the greatest human beings on planet earth Yeah That intro was great because there's not I mean it's great that it makes him likeable But then it's terrible from a writing point of view in this show because it doesn't even establish a hint of You know there's a bad undertone to him. It's not like he's arrogant about it. He's not like, uh, you know I totally deserve this. He's he's a guy who feels the weight of the responsibility of doing this And he's desperate to try and live up to it. You know, those are all great traits. It's just it doesn't really fit It doesn't factor into what he becomes later I mean the the uh Show toys with him a little bit like pulls at his strings and tries to manipulate you with all the kinds of like the filmmaking around it But then at the end is like, oh, yeah, he's a good guy. We said that we said he was a good guy You're like, I don't like you show Um Yeah, uh, I I was happy with this intro and then I was already annoyed and it's like wait, why would you be annoyed? It's like cuz they're gonna do something to him. They're gonna make him evil They're gonna make him do something that's stupid or something but uh, we knew it. We could we we knew it was coming Not gonna be less frustrating as a result So, yeah, they lost the flag smashes somehow. I have no idea They also explained that they found the flag smashes and these guys because they followed red wing And uh falcon has the balls to complain about this when it's not even his Belongs to the government and it's so awkward because again walker is doing everything perfectly. He's like, oh, well It's you know, it's government property and then he points to himself and lamar goes we're government He's just like, yeah Lines up and yet you just have them frowning and uh then comes Again, because this is all horribly written and they have no idea what they're doing. Um Bucky leaves first because bucky's embarrassed by the fact that lamar calls himself battle star He's like, oh, what a lame name. I'm out Like oh, yeah me the white wolf. Yeah, this is what I mean Are we really doing this? Like did you think dr. Strange was this incredible name? I guess that is his name though. I well you need different example to that one. I think no, you He didn't doctor His name is dr. Stephen strange. No He didn't know that Ah, right true true dr. Smith I think anybody would naturally assume. It's like dr. Strange that like your your wizard name Fucking spider-man assumes that Yeah, um So so I I don't know that there's any name that we all go like even I had bad You'd be like, I mean, yeah, so yeah, all right. That's the name Battle star. It's like, oh, how lame I'm out. You're like, fuck you bucky You're really lame What they're fighting about is their names. It's like wow. These are our main characters of this show And this is the thing I feel like my reaction like IRL if this guy introduced it and like The soldiers of like the government are starting to take on like little little tag names or whatever Not that they wouldn't do that before like there's some code names and stuff in the military though for people to have Code names like I wouldn't look at the modern warfare series. So frost ghost Yeah, and if if if it came across as though it was kind of inspired by the fact that they were other superheroes I'd be like, that's cute that you went with battle star. Yeah, all right. Nice I'll happily call you battle star if you want There's a code name stuff, but no bucky's a twat. So it's like, okay, cool Though not as bad as falcon where falcons listening to them even more and walkers desperately trying to win him over And he says He says a bunch of things there's some really good quotes in there for like convincing him of his character And like it just makes me so sad I'm gonna try and show the faces because I just I'm so on walker side Well, it's just the scene where he's like, you know, I want you by my side To to help me with this because we need your help. Well, and that's when Sam I'll I'll I'll get I'll get Because this is good. This is something that really fucking pisses me off about this he's like Cap was was goodman. I want to be goodman. He was strong helpful I want to be a team you guys blah blah. It's all good. It's all great and falcons kind of being won over I think at least he's listening to him But he ends the sentence with a dreaded word that he never should have used And it's only too late and we're fucking yes See, it's it's just he never should have used this word. Okay, we're about to get to it I just want to make sure I have it with the copyright. So the word is wingman Says he wants caps. Yeah wingman And that is a trigger word Absolutely, like I when I heard it Like he got triggered. I asked Fringy to turn it off. I was like, this is enough. Okay I can't listen to this. I can't believe it. It's not like you're a literal wingman. So but literally and figuratively Falcons like pissed off and he's like, yep always that bit at the end And then he leaves it's like oh and look at walker Wingman's not even a subordinate position. It's just unequal. Who's there? It's my buddy. I got I got I got someone that makes it I got someone that makes this much worse than you guys would even possibly get from just this thing because you're right You're absolutely right that nobody would react this way. This is fucking absurd And walker after trying so hard fighting for their lives arguing his character knowing he's done everything right He just sees this guy leave because he said wingman. He's like Poor guy, maybe Sam. Maybe Sam just hates top gun references. I don't know Now when Good old Sam was introduced Um part of his sort of story is that he's there giving advice and stuff because um I believe him and someone called Riley. There were two people who had Those like experimental falcon packs and they would rescue people. They'd power rescue people And part of his story is so tragic is like, you know, that guy died Riley and Do you know what falcon calls it with the soldier? Oh His wingman Imagine if he was alive to hear you say that Spit in your face. Yeah, I I if I were Riley, I would fucking punch him. How dare you call me a wingman. What the fuck? I'm I am not to be insulted this way. So yeah, I was a little bit disappointed when finding that out I was just curious if it's ever come up in the MCU like just referring to people as wingman Has there ever been because I've never known it to be offensive literally either I'll go describe someone came up to me and said you're my wingman. I'm like, oh awesome, man It's never been derogatory nor does it necessarily imply a like lower position like a wingman Yeah, if he'd said something like sidekick, okay fine, you know, that's that's got a kind of derogatory tone to it Or a condescending at least but yeah, this is nothing. This is inoffensive as fuck It's like Kylo Ren usually called him a wing boy Because usually when you have a wingman, you're also their wingman. Yep, it's like perfectly mutual But also more over if you're in the military and somebody says a word you don't like that's not a good enough reason to not work with them Well, the children so Good enough like, oh, he called me a wingman. It's like, fuck you Get back to work He called me a soldier in an army Maybe you're not cut out for this This is legit like just a diversity seminar or whatever like converted into a you know, an action adventure You know people get triggered by a certain word and they have to just up and leave because they can't handle it Like this isn't how real human beings interact with each other in this way I mean if this is how you interact it's like, god damn, you're worthless Like you can't even talk to me without getting pissed off Because I said wingman and it's a word that you don't like let's get out of here Hence why you called me a wingman If you look at this, he might as well have called me nigger If If you look at walker as the car drives away, he's just pissed. It's like, yeah, he should be What the hell is this? What is it? What does it take? I'm trying the best I can to save your life And this is like god damn is so lame And I I just don't want to make of it because I just look lost because the show is clearly telling you walkers annoying We don't like him. Fuck walker. You're like why? Yeah annoying We don't like walker. He can't sit with us And you know, but we do like bucky and falcon those those jokes to those fun action stuff He's like, you know, I don't like them though like a show. Oh, you're being all weird like the guys the characters you inherited Um, yes, no, I don't like these ones. I don't like what you're doing with them I like these new people who seem great and kind and Skilled and humble and just all these wonderful traits that they have it just seems well No, because next episode he's gonna go up to a guy who was aiding in a bedding terrorist and screaming his face Do you know who I am? No, yeah, that doesn't mean he's a bad person really. Oh, well That's to come before we can even get there they have to arrive first and there's this one bit because I don't again We're gonna try and get through some of this a little faster to do four hours. This is gonna be a long one They they get to a computer and they're like, oh my god People are already searching us on the internet, which is a really funny fucking thing to have him say just out of context He's just like people are searching for us. You're like, okay Yeah You guys are famous already. Uh, I guess they were They're like, no, it's the um, you know, it must have been the the shipment thing Who name is carly morgan thou right like that's her full name. That's a human name. Um, and they're like You know people are searching for us now. So he says something like i'm gonna scrub our aliases from the internet like He's gonna I'm gonna have to hack the internet hack the mainframe I'm gonna take a wire I'm in This is some vision Ultron shit. We just like I could do it. Like how I could do it I removed him from the internet. It's like, oh the whole internet Maybe cyborgs on their team Yeah, and he's just anybody who even sit types our name on the internet But the best part the best part guys they show a loading bar It's like Well, yeah, all of the unloading has to all the unloading has to load and it says Interpol notice Wanted carly morgan thou What do you what do you change about this? They hacked interpol. She's wanted this too late You they know her name like what what are you proposed to do? Arms in dangerous extreme caution It's does They all our files disappeared. Let me replace them Anyone anyone print out the the carly thing. It's like, yeah, I did boss I only remember all the all the case officer assigned to it. We just instantly forget who she is It's like, uh, we were supposed to be searching for someone but no Lost it now. Oh man. I'm to the next case how hard drives. They all got deleted I don't know It's so funny because he just he just sits. This is a brand new safe house. They've never been here before He just sits down on a computer because I gotta hack the end of that Yeah, it's just some guy's house that's like hey, this house didn't have The computer then I'm guessing. All right. We would use this phone. He's like, let me call the internet Send the internet a text to delete our our fursonas from the interweb He sits the computer. He's like is this gonna lead our chat history I'm like, oh, well, we've got scrub all of our tweets from the official flag swashers twitter account Which twitter would probably allow to oh, yeah, yeah, it'll be fine. They could talk about freedom and stuff It'll be fine. That's the context. Yeah, like do you have hacking software and the guys like steam I a window 10. That's all the hacking software I need You'll be fine. Just tap away. It's all done. And then they do the whole really bad exposition again She's like, you know, it's really good that we want things that are good for the world, isn't it? And they're like, yeah, and like we got to make sure that good things happen people get what they need Yeah, one willed one people. Yeah, one willed one people. It's like, shut the f**k That's how we get one world one people by blowing up others Which takes us to a big brain to the next part of this episode Which is gonna be so much fun to talk about let me tell you This this is the episode that kills so many disney plus subscriptions Dude, it was it was obvious this would have pissed off so many people especially people I know I'd be like, uh-oh because it's just a bunch of stuff you listen to you like wait What's like when did any of this happen? You're like, oh, that's the thing. It was a secret But we open with a really weird like I don't I'd like to talk to the writer about what the goal here was They have a black kid say, hey, it's black falcon falcon's like, no, it's just falcon And I'm like, why would anyone call you black falcon? This scene stands in stark opposition to the message of the show which is that race matters a lot Right, right. Yeah It's weird weird the show seems to go in loads of different directions with this because like You know sam's final kind of Realization of I'm gonna wear the the captain america shield and I'm gonna take on that mantle Even though people are gonna judge me for it for being black and think that I shouldn't It's like it tries to steer this middle path where it acknowledges all of these different grievances But then tries to kind of push them aside so that he can take on the captain america persona But then it doesn't really have a coherent Message in the end it goes in two different directions And it's like this is an example Yeah, like they're trying to get across this point here really awkwardly that sam just sees himself as You know falcon. He's not he doesn't define himself by his race So he doesn't want to but then his experiences over the course of the series try and pull him in that direction Especially when he meets isaah Yeah, I feel like Oh, I feel like anthony mackey weaseled that in because he's Said something like that in the press like i'm not no, no, no, no, maybe it wasn't Maybe it was interest elbow or somebody but like the way he talks in the press about uh, you know media and How we shouldn't make everything about raisin blah blah blah I feel like he knew the script was shit and like just let me put this in To let people know like i'm not all about this this race baiting bullshit. Like I got some Yeah, maybe common sense Yeah, it does feel like another person snuck in and added this feels out of place. It really does Because he was with me because like the whole the reason why for instance is black panther is because it's a literal black panther Like that's why he's called that but falcon. He's falcon by the same note. However, if they were a new Um, like superman and he's black. I could totally see people colloquially trying to separate him by going Well, it's black superman. I can see that possibly catching on when you wouldn't want it to be you'd be like no No, no, no, can you just call me superman? It's like, okay. Well, you're the new superman. You're whatever your name is That could happen Yeah, no, that's what i'm suggesting is i'm looking for how it could have happened colloquially Why would anyone call him black falcon? He's the only falcon's only one Yeah, you there's no other falcon to distinguish him from and again, they're all black panthers How many black falcons on there? Yeah, so that was just odd I was I was like, why did why did that just okay anyway moving on um And so we're I guess it's just time to go over this as a full history thing like timeline wise it's hard to keep track of but this guy made a potion Like uh, that'll be the perfect person to use this on and steve was found legend used it on him This guy was killed his his uh, serums were destroyed And so it was left for us to assume that we ain't making that again because he was like a genius who knew how to do it Okay Now I might need a history lesson from any of you guys if you know more about this than i'm filling in But like hydra were also working on super soldier serums question mark and they used one on bucky Yeah, yeah, zola did sort of uh, or at least winter soldier says zola did like after he fell off the train Uh, it's kind of unclear exactly how his formulas worked or how successfully were but they seem to have worked on bucky So, yeah, they also produced those other like super soldiers that you saw in civil war That were all kind of murdered by zemo. So they were presented by hydra as well, weren't they? Those came from the formula the serum that was with tony with Yeah, how it came up with those they were stolen from him and used to make them all we this there's probably gaps in this history to fulfill fill up Unfortunately, it's hard to make more history because it's probably going to trample on something Because they've already kind of done it now It's like whatever would have happened with a world with more super serum people or more x more y We should have probably heard about it Like um the more films that go on say for example They introduce the world famous winter soldier assassin that everyone knows about and is terrified of and is a ghost in like the 27th film we'd be like that's weird. It doesn't come up like ever before but it's like this guy that everyone okay But yeah, this show along with wandavision really sets up the idea that They will happily make things up that existed retroactively Um just to have well really whatever they want for whatever reason. That's what captain marvel was right That's just like it was just stapled on it's like no we're having this too. You're like oh Yeah, she's the reason why they're called the adventures. It's like So The reason i'm saying all this of course is that uh that that's kind of the history and then we We are told that they kind of crack some sort of serum kind of With howard in the is that the 90s? Yeah. Yeah 91. Yeah So that is taken and then they make a bunch of super soldiers out of it But they were unstable like they're scary they're beating up the scientists Oh god, and then they get put on ice and so that's basically it But now this show is saying actually And this is from what I remember from this episode and from the one we get uh down the line episode five There were more tests done now This is the thing I want to go piece by piece with this so that we can all accept Maybe what we think is okay and what we think isn't in terms of trying to add to this universe, so More tests were done more serums were made more experiments with people were done. Do you guys have any issue with any of that? I'm like, who did that? Yeah Presumably like exactly. Well isa makes it sound like the american government question mark vagueness, but it would have to be shield presumably Or I guess hydro within shield Yeah, that's that's that's definitely worth considering, right? So it would because this is the thing if we were all in shield when all the stuff in cap one happened I would probably be like so what a first kind stuff do we have left must have had papers data and Yeah And so, yeah, I would just be like I think that we can uh, we can try We could we could say if we were building the story from without having any movies yet The yeah, they would probably continue working on it And uh, it's kind of established that in civil war that they eventually cracked something not not a good serum because it's unreliable in the 90s It's like does that line up? It's like I guess so without Erskine who's revolutionary Like yeah, they have a huge amount of trouble getting this to work again However, we are told that they created a whole bunch and they experimented with a whole bunch of dudes And they sent all of these dudes on a mission now according to isa A couple of them straight up died A couple of them were unstable and the couple of them actually worked and he's one of them unfortunately Loads of them were captured behind enemy lines. And so the government or shield or whatever Panicked like oh fuck. They've got our super soldiers. We best blow them up to get rid of the evidence That seems a bit weird That's same. It seems like they're trying to make Yeah It seems especially when captain america is going to be so front and center Well, uh, I'm going to bring that back in because I think there's more problems with this right So like we're supposed to believe that they wanted to kill them all so that there's no evidence of them having existed Now if you were so obsessed with them never being captured Why would you have dropped them all out there without having experiment like like tested them at home Been like can you guys survive in stressful environments? Can you do blah blah instead of just being like, I don't know throw them out see what happens It's like they've been captured. Oh kill them I guess What right and if it and if it turns out that's isa was a successful case Why the fuck would you leave him with your opposition? Why wouldn't you try to get your property quotation marks for your property back? Um, and remember isa leads a one bad mission I think or a selection to get them out and he's successful It's like wow, why didn't why didn't she'll just do it? Why didn't america just do it? Why did they just get their people out? They're really important Because he is not only that abar And only not only that He leads this mission to rescue them and then he gets thrown in jail for that specifically Well, that's what he says. I'm going piece by piece again, man. Oh, sorry So That I find all of that hard to believe is kind of my point that they wanted to kill him And he's like I was I was here and as friggy pointed out when we were watching it Oh, that's eerily close to steve's story if you remember he goes and does a mission to save people when he was told not to Yeah, that's probably deliberate Anyway, he comes back And he's like they put me in prison. It's like oh shit. Well, uh, you know I wouldn't want to quibble over whether or not they would be allowed to like legally with how he's broken orders The the fact is they did mean mean mean things to him Which I found strange and then if we roll it back It's like wait, how do they get these powers again? Like what was the nature of it? It's like they were told they were getting tetanus shots But they were actually getting like the super soldier serum. It's like Huh They didn't lie to steve Like I'm guessing that that might be to mirror the thing that happened in like the 70s wasn't it where a bunch of people were lied to that they were going to get like some sort of uh Vaccine, but it was actually like an experiment being run to figure out like the biology of african america's or something some crazy like Secret government project. I think the thing is he never makes it clear if all of the soldiers were black or not He just says that they were soldiers. Yeah, it's unclear, isn't it? Which the show relies on a little bit and I actually do think is cowardly Like they they don't want they want to push the race stuff, but they also like oh better not go too far Like we can't straight out say like yeah america mid got to ease them into it before the yeah finalized Like were they testing on black people specifically because oh well, no one's going to give a shit about these darkies Let's just use them as test subject even though with the winter soldier program I think wouldn't they're like multiracial Super soldiers. Well, that was in the 90s else too Yeah, one of them would grow at least. Yeah, again, though those in the 90s So they're gonna they would argue it's a different time. You see 90s were more progressive Yeah, they they keep proceeding on like they keep they rely on the audiences like the specifically the specifically the marvel audiences View that the government is bad and they just they just rely on that and expect them to fill in the blanks with their own you know With their own like distrust of the government instead of just explaining the shit Yeah, a lot of the show relies on the proverbial evil. They You know, for sure, um More problems come in with how like Falcon doesn't even bother throughout this entire season being like isaac. Who do you think did this and why? And then we can talk about because I happen to know That shield were completely infiltrated by evil jim and nazis who are doing all kinds of experimentation And that we actually squashed them Um and so sorry about all of that shit, but that might have been them and not like strictly america Like can we go over a lot of the because you seem like a very bitter old man as a result of the things that happen to you Which is natural, uh I I just maybe it's worth clearing up. Maybe you'll feel better about your country If you knew that it wasn't necessarily your country that did this to you I don't know. There's there's lots of things that don't get talked about because it's a very simplistic sort of This this this accept it and you're like, okay Um, so I just found it a little bit weird I guess like they have all these let's presume they had like, you know Serum abc the all the way through desired and they're like we're gonna inject a bunch of dudes with this and send them out And just see what happens. It's like that seems like a really dumb fucking experiment. I don't know Like think of it. How do you uh, you don't have as important as the serum is, um We'd really be keeping a close eye on all this stuff and be super careful A waste of your resources in the whole point of the test Like wouldn't you want to keep them close try to figure out like why it worked and how you can potentially You would you would have them in labs and controlled environments for months If not years and you have the long-term effects of it You give them all a punching bag and you're like everybody Approach and attack the punching bag and then we'll monitor you you don't throw them all out randomly, right? And then you have like, oh Patient a c and f came back the rest died You know, like did the rest die because of the fucking serum? It's like, well, they were shot. So I don't know Yeah, this is this is fucking umbrella corporation style of of test subjects, you know And for something so important throw them into combat immediately and just see what happens Yeah, so it's really really weird But then gets even weirder I would say so he comes back and they they go they all get jailed because it's a big spooky secret They don't want anyone to know about it's like that's weird Steve was very public Even the operation was and at this point while I say it was in prison. Steve was being used for like promotional stuff um It's like like they wanted people to know he was a super soldier and stuff like that's Okay, it's like well, well, I say it was black and you're like, yeah I guess I'm just a little bit lost on this But why would they have if that's the attitude they had why give it to a black person in the first place? Exactly exactly. Why would you wait waste that that good shit on a darky doesn't make any sense Yeah, so he can because so he can feel like he's being slighted and because he's black so he can like Stay as a whole mutiny against your dumb asses. Yeah, that's smart. It's really fucking smart the the concept of like black war heroes like isn't It's not like it was ever covered up in the past like the did you not have like entire squadrons of black airmen that were Whiteley celebrate the show The show accounts that if you remember an episode Five, I think he says A bunch of those red tails went up there and yet when they came home, there was burning crosses on their lords There you go Because they were racist people That yeah, so that means the government got to do with the the institutions though Fucking institutions are even more racist ring even paying attention to all the people who aren't racist I know also like wouldn't that have been more prevalent in this? What about the guys who came from like Chicago or new york or something? I'm sure that they got No, their lawns in their apartment buildings their lawns had flaming crosses on it too But I I guess my question would be what what what is the government to do about that? Well, what they're doing now lockdown racists block them from twitter That's the way to do it, man. They just did have twitter back then so I don't know why they chose to It's weird Uh, and you and you sort of just it doesn't quite line up. You're you're like, oh no, I get I get what you're going for Messaging wise. I'm just trying to figure it all out in the narrative now Because my will just getting turned upside down scrambled like I'm just trying to figure out where all this timeline stuff came from Yeah, this is what happens when you have an objective at the end That doesn't line up with what you have to work with and so you just try and bend everything around it To make it work and it never does like eventually just gets to that point really like no, this this doesn't make any sense in the context of this world and so Uh, is there isn't in prison for 30 years which takes us from obviously the I guess it was late 40s to late 70s and then he's released Uh, he's not released. Yeah, he escaped because they faked He said this nurse like made some made up some papers form or some shit or let him go Yeah, like do we get to know anything about her like the context of that or is it just like I was just a nurse If you think about it this way, it's like well, uh, he's describing how he was just permanently imprisoned and experimented on So how's he in this house like he got out someone got him out You know my assumption there was like, ah, okay that whoever this nurse was she is going to Become a character or some character who's already in the show will get revealed to be her Well, you know, and she's been working somehow to to help him He's an additional level of interest. I have this thing this the story just doesn't line up to me so he apparently met winter soldier at some point during his um 10 year has as like super strong soldier man If you remember his story, he was injected. He went out His soldiers will sit several of his friends were captured. He was told you can't free them He did he came back and was imprisoned. So they only led him out to fight the winter soldier presumably Yeah, it was in korea, wasn't it? So they did when was that which if we can try and find a timeline now Well, korea was the 1950s So he would have been released temporarily in his 30 years of imprisonment to fight winter soldier Yeah, like we are supposed to believe that And he didn't do anything to escape or make noise or anything He just he did his job. He beat the fuck out of the winter soldier he tore his arm off apparently which by the way If you say so, I guess uh Yeah, and then he went back and they imprisoned him again. It's like hmm Seems like a weird time. You don't get it maul him. He had the slave mentality. They beat him down emotionally Well, this is the way it's like they they wanted him for his blood, right? They were farming him and it's like wait if his blood was like so god Can you imagine how much blood they got out of him by the way 30 years of pumping that shit every day? Tanks Come up with some form of a breakthrough after going through all that much blood. It's like dude Something's got to help Yeah, either you come through with a breakthrough or the sides like literally we've we've got the silos of this shit We don't need it anymore It's just gratuitous amounts of blood now But yeah, it's like you obviously had a serum that more or less worked and you found a test subject in him Where it it worked fine and he's perfectly healthy Surely with those two things in 30 years to play with you would make some kind of progress Nah Yeah, just gave up they they they tell us that um, there wasn't any progress made However, they kept the blood because the guy who makes the serum Now says that it was the blood that gave him the breakthrough Like wait, they just they just had the silos of blood frozen and they just really they just passed it over And this guy's the only guy who come who came up with a breakthrough. None of the teams are working on this Anything with the blood It is this timeline is so strange and it's just to shove specific payoffs at specific times Because the other thing I was wondering is like wouldn't they want to farm Steve's blood the like top tier like perfect And you know what if they said hey steve as he's doing some of the missions Can you please just like blood let a little because we need to basically try and get this This formula back. We need to help more people need to get more soldiers need to win the war I think he'd be okay with it Yeah, like like I said instead of the first avenger He actually does like they draw a lot of blood from him. So it's like why not just keep doing that like His was like the perfect experiment. It worked So why not use his blood to recreate it is apparently perfect as well, but they just had a constant tap They erased his entire that was the funny part for me when they were like they they erased every last scrap of me from history That's why you've not heard of me. He like No paperwork no like research like any research papers no no numbers Nothing Another question I have is um bucky knows where he lives how You What what kills me is he just randomly tell sam this like there's something you need to see like why why Because they find out that they're super hero super people and so yeah bucky somehow Decided you know what's likely the blood they drew from him across those 30 years back when started 1940s Is likely been used to synthesize a new serum. So we need to talk to him. He'll know nothing useful So yeah, it's all garbage um and so you're like why why did you do any of this? And it's like you have falcon say you're telling me there was a black superhero this whole time and nobody knew You're like About this sam It's like sam. Why did you why did you phrase all of that that way? What the hell? Because when we first watched I was like, oh, I just be outraged that a human being was locked in a fucking cage and bled every day Not that he was black like that's a strange But okay, you know, damn you know, damn well, they were not doing this specifically on black people like just black people You know that come on come on sam. Come on Dude, I I doubt they even needed uh to just use like black people like cattle or whatever It's like, can you imagine during wars you're like, oh, we're experimenting to make people super strong and super fast To help in the war effort any volunteers. I think you'd have quite a few Like fuck. Yeah, I could be like captain america. It's like well sign this you might die Just like he may have died like he could die too. I'm still pretty sure you'll get loads of sign-ups Especially people who want to fight but they'd like steve whether too short or too scrawny or whatever Well, they have like, um, you know, uh, any kind of like like the really bad vision or um, Maybe yeah, but just things that disqualify you. Um, and before you can recover from this before you could discuss it Before you can deal with any of this a cop car shows up Oh my god And it's like this this was physically painful to watch how contrived it was It's beautiful We just dealt with all of that and it's like it's really hard to try to reconcile everything You just change the entire history to do with soldier serum and stuff. It's like, hey, this black guy bothering you And then another guy comes out and it's like, oh wait bucky, you've got a warrant out You're coming to jail It's really like time to figure that part out too Well, yeah, like if they wanted if they wanted to impress me They would have been like as soon as he wrote they roll up the sam thinks they're gonna go to him And start attacking on him, but they're like, no, uh, mr What's sam's last fucking name again? wilson Yeah, mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson. Is this a brace of uh, cracker bothering you? There's a warrant out for it then that I would have been like, okay fine, whatever But they had to like do the racial thing first and then say bucky had to go to jail Shut the fuck up Exactly they were just walking across the street I think the thing I find awkward in the whole scene is that there are two people arguing in the middle of the street And then a cop car rounds the corner. It's like, oh, why are you two arguing in the middle of the street? Yeah, the cars that make me on the street not people Instead instead their first thought is this white man. He's being attacked by this horrible black man Got to save him And you think they'd recognize sam on the spot, but now Oh Yeah, particularly they're there to apprehend bucky aren't they because he missed his He missed his counseling thing. So they've got to bring him in. That's like the terms of his parole So they are already there looking for him to arrest him Like who's he likely to be hanging around with? Oh, yeah That fucking guy it is so blatant. Not only should they instantly recognize them fucking anyway, but when they go like Oh my god, dude, that's a fucking guy and he's like, oh shit Yeah, I it's lampshading again. The show is like see they probably should have known and it's like yeah show They probably should have what's going on. Why are you doing this? Like uh, we want to have a payoff which by the way as I established he should be going to jail for a bunch of things Bucky he's potentially Going to jail here because he missed his fucking therapy appointment like wow On the plane with sam if like there's a warrant put out for his arrest if he misses one of his psychiatry appointments. It's like wow And yeah, um, and so that's that and so yeah, a lot of people would just like God, is this the show you like this is the show This is exactly the show Um, so you're not gonna get pulled over in baltimore for walking across the street people jaywalk all the goddamn time In baltimore I lived there for several years. They're just the road is the sidewalk in baltimore. Well, that's not a thing That clarifies that thing then I I assumed it was really bizarre when people are just Arguing with each other in the middle of the bar Baltimore is a very strange place and people are just like randomly across the street all over the place There are no crosswalks. It's just chaos. Hey, that's accurate. That's neat. Yeah, you go uh Not sure what to talk about first with this stuff The therapy session itself or the fact that walker not only releases bucky from the annoying therapist But also like clears him for duty because he knows that he's very very useful and would want that and he even does like a Like walker does a gesture of like yep. It was it was me. I did it like uh, so yeah, you know I know I know it's a really nice thing. I did But nobody cares and nobody appreciates Like getting him out of a jam man. Yeah a walker. That's nice gets him out of jail and approves him to go on missions That's a godsend for bucky. That's everything he wants. He doesn't care though because walker Walker sucks Just once again adding to the frustration of these fucking characters Um and then comes the therapy session, which is joke joke joke joke joke joke until we finally get for what Were they're actually in the fucking scene for which is Falcons annoyed bucky and bucky's annoyed a falcon is like why because if Steve was wrong about you in the shield. He was wrong about me Yeah, just says it says it overtly. That was great As soon as we hit it it's like oh everyone's gonna fucking boom over this scene if they like the show They'll think this is amazing The tone is all over the place like they want to be serious But they want to have their marvel yuckity yucks. Fuck you Can't have both I feel like this was squeezed out of bucky's brain by the writer It was like we've got to get people understanding what uh what the arc's gonna be ready for episode five because we have Just not got the time we got so much action to put in and uh Yeah, he just comes out and says something that I think would be a really interesting sort of uh journey to put him on But we didn't do any work for this Like and it stops there too because as soon as he says that the falcon is just an asshole and it's like cool Are we done here? Well, uh, this picks up in the uh halfway through episode five where they talk with when they have the shield That's where this conversation continues until then everything's on pause Fucking hell man I don't know if there's any more commentary for it because I do I think a lot of people will be like What was wrong with it? Just like it's it's super over It's just not delivered in any like kind of what I would feel to be a natural way Uh, I like the idea that bucky rides a lot on steve for his identity because he's the one that like brought him back over and over again and stuff So very dependent on Whatever steve has said about him to be really important. I just don't like that. He rolls it out Without barely getting poked about it Like this is some deep stuff that I don't think he would even want to say Yeah, this is the person who's they they say such personal things in these small moments and then the rest is just flooded with jokes So it's like it doesn't feel like this material is being fleshed out. It's just like you get well, we're episode two You know, that's true Also, that's like maybe he was wrong about me too. That's kind of the subtext not the text You would think so if it was good The instant thing that we talked about we watched the episode was you cut the the line in half at most You have him say if he was wrong about you then And you could even cut it earlier than that and dot dot dot it and he looks down Or he says it In any way that's slightly more subtle that you give us the audience a chance to think about what he might have been wanting to say Because you know, it is a common thing in writing that characters don't when just in real life That sometimes people don't say exactly what they mean In fact, it's actually pretty common that people don't express exactly what they mean You know, it's what they're afraid to say that often has more meaning and more significance So, yeah, like like you point it out. Moller, you know, like you can have him trail off there And that's fine. It's easy enough to infer what he's thinking from that But you also get the fact that his character is afraid to say it Then the audience actually has to lean in and try to figure out what people are thinking and feeling instead of being told exactly There's there's so much of this just well, it's it's like batwoman where you've got characters standing in hallways talking about their feelings You know, it's it's just that but with a marvel budget Yeah, and uh, they knew they had to do this stuff Otherwise they've gotten a character quote unquote and that's kind of the lame part of all of this Is that this is considered good enough by so many people not only good enough but great Like oh my god, it's phenomenal that we had this this is such a real moment from bucky What will we have as references to like support this sort of journey? Not much um and and the episode five discussion is really unsatisfying as well because um bucky basically gets told you shouldn't lean all your identity on steve Like yeah, probably Then he's like right and stop avenging start amending and then he walks up to urie and he's like Sorry about your kid. I killed him. I didn't mean to and that's it Not even I didn't mean to I had no choice it's So disappointed like god, it's bucky barns This is the character that almost everyone is like, oh, I'd love to have him to write for because there's just infinite potential There's so much to work with it's such a like you can make so many stories And he's like this he's he is the sidekick in this whole season And then to top off this wonderful fucking episode walker is like hey guys, you know Saved your lives. We're totally cool with you. We try to pick you up. We're on board. We got you out of jail It's all good. What do we have we should work as a team and find carly and they literally tell him Fuck you. You've got no information. We're free agents. We're gonna go work on our own They're so stupid. I hate it and then Work together the show has given us no reason to like these guys. No I mean, it's entirely based on us being you know knowing them from the movies and liking those characters But if it was just if you came into this show cold, you'd just be there like thinking these guys are complete dicks Oh, why would I support them? The thing is I liked them from the previous movies But when I watched this I'm like, this isn't even the same characters just like that. Yeah um And yeah, like like falcons Logic that threw me for a fucking luke when I was watching the show because like I said in the will building doesn't make me sense He's like you guys when you go anywhere when you do anything you've got to get approval. We don't I'm like, how How are you using government technology? government like weaponry Without the government's permission on where you can go. This sounds like a fucking political disaster You just arrive in countries with like usa vehicles Just doing whatever you want like no, we know this isn't true. We watch civil war. You can't get away with this And they're like no we're free agents. Fuck you Work underneath any agency whatsoever. They don't have any authority to respond to like any supervisor or nothing They just they plant their missions judged during execution or apparently it's like wow And if they are Go ahead. Sorry No, I was I was on If they are free agents, then is he paying for all this out of pocket? Like no, I thought he was broke It has to be the government They ruined it when he when he had on that like huge like plane that he jumped out of Munich It's like the government paid for that they would never do the Who would they would they honestly be like, hey falcon if you want you just yeah, just go ahead That's fine. It's not like the world is strapped for resources Accountability right now. It's fine. Do whatever you want The funny thing is I think it would be the reverse I think captain america and Hoskins battlestar whatever they would probably be able to operate with relative ease They'd be like we need this to go here They might not even have to say why it'd be like it's a part of our investigation We're doing blah blah blah. We need to go here. It's like, yeah, we'll get the sanctions. You need free agent man Like hey government. Can I can I borrow a plane like no Yeah, okay There we go Even if they said like oh, we're searching for the flag smash is gonna stop him It's like that's nice, but you're a free agent. We only come to you when we have a contract. Otherwise fuck off Especially when he's kind of sympathetic to their cause And makes it quite known that he's kind of sympathetic to their cause and they could have gone away with their methods If they'd integrated maybe With pepper they were like they get the resources from her and she's well then there's the money issue like it can't work I'm sorry. Well, that's why you know then potentially you've got a good setup for zemo where it's like, oh, this guy's Insanely wealthy and so we need his resources and his jets and stuff to be able to fly around the world We need his help to do that. We don't just need him for information We actually need him to support us Yeah, that just ends up being what they're using for writing wise But the characters didn't even seem to be aware that that's what they would need him for until he just supplies it No, exactly. Like he just happened to have it, but it's a surprise to them. Yeah It's like, whoa, you're rich. You've got a jet. I didn't know that Do you guys remember the scene where the flags were actually trying to escape? But they make this really emotional see where the guy is like, I gotta die to save the court I was sitting like, oh my god I hated that Oh, I'm necessary with like how this Wait, it's like they had plenty of time dude It added no time. It did nothing Well, yeah, if you just tossed down the uh, the lamppost Earlier and then got on the plane. He'd be fine. But no, he's like, I must run at them Why are we playing sad music here? I don't know This random dude that we know nothing about like why should I just sorry for him As well, I guess, uh, we're not there yet, right? But at the end of the episode of it's this one, right? Where they burn the people I think that's the end of episode three Oh Right, okay. Yeah, but still these guys have been beating up our good guys and stealing stuff Well, it's just a little confusing because we're just like this guy sacrificed himself for the cause Like I don't know who these people are. I don't know what your cause is your cause is a world without borders It's like, what does that mean? How what is what is the end of your what is the end point of like where you're like, all right Mission accomplished one will one people. It's just there is there is one government It's not because they're they're real gripe is that, you know, there was so much more resources during the blip because half the population was missing So it's like, okay, you know, there's loads of empty houses So all the homeless got places to live and that's all great But now obviously everyone's been returned and those resources are scarce again And there's they're fighting this terror campaign to try and reverse that but like how Are you gonna like force half the world's population to kill themselves or something? There's going to be the big problem of I am willing to bet that more than half of the world like the idea of nations Um, in fact, it's probably more than half. It's probably more like 90% if not more than that um, but also Once you when you achieve your goal What does that look like because I hate to be the bearer of bad news But as it stands right now, it's going to be pretty logistically impossible for one government to oversee the whole world Effectively, there's kind of a reason why a lot of big countries have states Even small countries have states doesn't Germany have like 10 or 15 states It's just You need to start figuring out. All right. How do we address the problem in this area? Okay, that's still a big area. How do we address the problem in this area? And then all of a sudden you have states again Like I don't yeah, I don't see this end outcome here working for them. Well, that's the thing The grc is already kind of what they want what they want the grc to do though Is give more resources to people of their choice not the grc's choice That's it. It's so bizarre because you would think that you know Half the population blipping back into existence after five years of adjusting to the new paradigm Would throw everything into chaos and there wouldn't be enough resources for them period Like there just is not enough. But they act like there are they just haven't been giving it to them Well, that's the yeah, that's my point. It doesn't make any fucking sense. They want a fairer Redistribution of non-existent resources and I just don't understand how that's meant to work And how does killing them help? But this how do they mean to know who to give them to? It's not even just that the show I think the show believes they make an argument But I'm sitting here like oh They're really stupid like not the right as Carly Carly's like you have this place It's got six months worth of resources in here and you're just sitting on it I think the writers were like, yeah, see so there are some the resources that aren't being used I was just sitting there like six six months. Well, yeah, you're gonna need more you like having So say for example, there's a meal and you go, that's a day's worth of food for someone. You're like Yes, so you probably want more than one meal per person presumably So if you have six months worth of this compound that's being spread presumably through this city with or something That'll last them some time, but they're gonna need more and Carly's like no, you shouldn't have it at all It's like what? What are you? How do you figure this out? What are you thinking? It feels like um, it's one of the consistent through lines when you watch this show is like whoever wrote this show I don't think that they understand how the military works. I don't think they understand how like supply chains works I don't think they understand how governments work. No, oh, they don't It's fascinating It's it's someone really to watch a show where at the end of it. They're like And I guess we'll get to that later. It's like, I don't know. Maybe that's a good thing. It's like, ah, it's not That's the most baffling line I've ever heard in my goddamn life. I cannot believe he said that unironically Yeah, I don't know and maybe that helps me. It's like, um, you know If I was talking imagine if you had an engineer who's like, yeah So we need to put some support beams up here to make sure that we can keep the balcony stable It's like I don't understand how any of this works and I don't think I want to I want a giant like 10 foot long swimming pool over the top of my house It's only six feet. Oh, wait a 10 foot white. No, I need to breathe in. That's all right. Go ahead I I totally just heard the hero of the the supposed hero of the show Says in the final culminating like monologue He has that like, you know what maybe I don't understand how complicated this situation really is But maybe that's a good thing because now I can be idealistic Yeah One of the official hits some with a straight up like logistical question He's like, what are we supposed to do with all these people that have come back? And they found like someone else living in their homes Do we just turn them out on the street and falcon just stares at him? Like he's got no response to it And then he just kind of moves on it's like you can't just fucking brush past that That whole conversation between the whole conversation between the gngrc guy and him was like A fucking disappointed parent talking to a child. It's like yeah Like they're trying to they're trying to fucking reason with you and tell you like look this is a complicated situation It's like it's like a parent trying to tell the kid like yeah I can't buy you that new phone because our financials are in the shit right now And like the kids like well, I want it. I fucking want it But I can tell you like financial this is a complicated situation right now. You can't happen And they could say well, I might I know how I don't know how complicated it is, but it's but that's okay Yeah, his entire speech is just nothing but an appeal to emotion just the most manipulative garbage I think that's what I think my most charitable interpretation to them would be the logic of because I don't understand how complicated it is I'm deriving my position from a base principle But the problem is my immediate thing would be okay, sam Let's walk through the scenario. You have a house. You own it. Like you don't even have a mortgage. You own it Um, you disappear for a while. Somebody else moves into your house You come back and there's somebody in your house. You had no means of getting them out in that time because you didn't exist Who should have that house? And then he'd probably be like uh, oh well I mean, I guess in that case it should probably be the person who originally lived in it's like, okay Let's add a multiplier. They didn't own the house. It was being It was it was a mortgage and then the mortgage lapse because of economic stuff that went wrong during that period And someone moved in who should own the house that guy the person who moved in or the bank and it's like Oh, it's a little more complicated. All right extra modifier the person who got snapped had kids Uh, and then extra modifier. They're in this country and this is how the laws work extra modifier like the economics Like I don't know something happened with their other assets extra modifier. They were really poor and it's like oh So it is super fucking complicated, isn't it? Man stuff like it's really difficult Like this is actually a really difficult problem to deal with that's going to be a logistical nightmare There is no way that you're going to make everybody happy here But you have to balance out who you make happy And I would want to mention but just it real quick just to get back to The scene we're on instead of jumping to the end the whole reason they throw in that stupid goddamn line about how Oh, they were just sitting on these resources They just hadn't distributed them is because what would really happen in this world as you know Described by the blip and everything is that there just wouldn't be enough resources to go around No, right there would be third shortages Well, there'd be no way to make them evil for like not having resources for everybody But since they just have them and they're sitting on them they can be like See look the evil they are keeping us from getting what we need I mean, does she even understand the context of of this depot that she's bombing like maybe Stuff had been placed there for like a period of time before it was exactly Maybe it's storage depot. Maybe it's an emergency reserve where it's like, oh if things get really bad We'll tap into this but you know That's that's like, yeah to double up on what Fringe was saying as well then so If falcon was like I control it now I shall decide who gets the resources because I am pure of heart and then the grc people go very well You have complete control go and he goes all right. How many resources do we have go 100 just for the sake of it? Units like all right. We need to get them to all of the biggest population areas that have the least amount of resources Yep, okay. Let's do it. Uh, wish we send them specifically. Well, probably grc sort of compounds in these areas It's like, okay, how much should we send? It's like, well, if we've got 10 compounds 10 of the 100 go out It's like we'll do it falcon definitely now with each of these compounds They have to send the one of their units out of their 10 to each of the surrounding areas to distribute It's like cool. Oh no falcon. It's like what what's what's going on one of our One of our compounds has been hit by flag smashes and they're claiming that we've been sitting on these resources But we're trying to distribute them falcon help. What do we do? We have to do better, right? We have to do better. He's just like we do we do have to do better We have to listen to them. They have a point like you motherfuckers haven't even taken the grc don't hate you They're trying okay. They don't want people to starve. That is the most simplistic one That's ignoring other logistical issues. Like do you have the manpower to do this? What treaties? What do like how the laws changed in the years that you weren't here that you now need to rewrite That need to go through their democratic process is you're trying to like re-institute the governments of all these different countries You've got these places that have been sucked up You've probably got like so many cases that need to go before the Hague that is like or like the international courts that it's going to take you like Years to clear through that backlog the financial system probably doesn't work There are probably some currencies that have totally just obliterated that probably need new currencies and new and then you need to get loans from like the from The the the IMF like the international monetary fund you need to get if they still exist and it's like Yeah, just do better do better Well, there's a hitch in your step. There's you fucked up if you remember in his speech He said we shouldn't be talking about this yet, but he says With a phone call you can feed a million people Yes, I was about to mention that Or like you can plan a format Yeah, it's as if they have the power to just fix everything, but they're choosing not to it's so Literally the child the world it's absolutely a child's view of the world I've uh, I pulled up the actual the episode so he has a line where he says you can move borders It's like no you can't like that is like number one in terms of international law is the idea that you have sovereignty over your country The GRC can't just come in and say that territory belongs to them now You just be like no, it's ours. We're sovereign. We're sovereign state We remember we own they're voting on the patch act is the big drama of this season And they say the patch act is to reset the borders and what I took from that was that like Basically saying hey, you know the border between like, you know fucking as simple as whales at England. It's like that's there Okay, it's there. It's not something you just pretend doesn't exist. It's there and then all the fucking All the flags bash is like well, I want I don't like that what every war is about yeah So the land that you control if you can't control that land you're basically not a sovereign state Like the number of times where the demand for the seeding of territory has led to a war It's it's it's almost countless. It's like number one If you can't even control the land that you claim is yours Then how do you claim to have any authority over it? It's like really important fundamental stuff to do with like the nature of the way that nations work That this show is like oh you can just move borders around and again That's totally ignoring whether or not the people who live in those areas like the idea of becoming citizens of a different country What if you're living in like a border town in france that gets swallowed up by germany? Are you cool with that or the other way around or have you lived in some northern town in america and get swallowed up by Canada or vice versa or like mexico? Would you just be cool with that and and like what and it's like oh, thanks falcon You've just made me lose my whole land like i'm now a citizen of a different country I have less rights. I need to figure out and then again It's like oh sam you're gonna be personally overseeing making sure that everybody becomes a citizen of whichever country They've been put in that they now have to live in forever or you know, they're gonna have great difficulty leaving You're probably gonna destroy the property value of a lot of people's houses If you move those borders god damn the housing market has got to just totally collapse It's almost like the world is really complicated. You're gonna do better. Okay. Yeah, just do better I just like the people who are being screwed are but Does anyone feel like the five-year gap between like the snap and and everyone getting restored was like a terrible right Demolished everything. Yeah, it's just gonna cause me so many problems going forward Well, here's the thing. I think there's a way to make that stuff work But what this movie really wants to do is have a social commentary on our current society and world and The world post blip is so very very different from our current world Yeah, you can't have both. You can't fucking do both. I'm sorry. This is I think that's the thing is it's it's basically Unrecognizable and like the rebuilding effort after world war two took a long time It took a long time and world war two killed a lot of people But the snap is like half the world. It's like 50. I think it's like 50 times more people It's catastrophic. Yeah, and to clarify for anybody wondering. It's like we're not it's more than half It's a hell of a lot more than half what the blip. It's definitely more than half Yeah, the amount of wars and genocides and ethnic cleansings and suicides that are gonna come after the snap god damn Yeah, the MCU imagine coming back and finding out that your home was blown up by a bomb you just teleport into the center of a collapsed building Because your home doesn't exist because I don't know like another country They don't have the bulls to tell that story. They just don't well that would be what an interesting story Snapping back into a world that's unrecognizable and you have to try and figure your way out from there That'd be that'd be a cool idea. But again, they don't want to do that. They're like, well, you can move borders It's like, do you know how many problems like it's funny You would say this considering how many issues have come from colonialization Colonialism in Africa when the main issue there was that they were just arbitrarily making borders without any consideration For the people who lived there and where they wanted to be a part of it's amusing that you would do that It's almost like you don't know anything about the world Yeah um, the other the other line she threw it or he threw in was um, you control the banks like Control, oh, yeah, you control the banks. Uh, yeah It's it's such a just print more money. Just print more money Yeah, I mean there's never been a bad instance of just printing more money What's that? Why my republic? What's that's in bob way? It's it's kind of like this show is almost like a Inadvertent destruction of like modern social justice because everything that that stands for this show inadvertently just demolishes by how fucking stupid it is But they think he's making a point at the end the show thinks he's right I've seen twitter they lit up. They're like, that's one of the greatest speeches in history of film What are you talking about? I like how you've got all these politicians looking down one of my immediate thing would be dude Like you tell me what to do. Here you go. You know it'd be like that It's like it. I feel like this would be again another simpson's reference. You got like the grc of blanders grc It's like what what is it pictures over there? It's like, uh, don't worry grc words can't hurt you in falcon person man I think you just volunteered. It's like me, but you're doing such a great job And so We should begin episode three like this is just this is gonna get Don't worry. This will get faster because we've been jumping ahead a bit So we're gonna skip over stuff as we go. It's how it always goes guys We'll be just fine episodes only an hour long, you know, we'll get through it real quick. So What even happens? Oh, yeah zemo, uh, I think it's retarded that they were like, right We need info on super soldier's serum. What about zemo? The knowledge about any of this instead of civil war It's like what did he had to do with like the super soldier's serums? He found out about the the super soldier's like after the fact but yeah, he was about it This is the thing they've retconned it So zemo in civil war was simply looking for everything that he could find about like the starks death And it led him into the serum stuff and then he was like fuck this still soldiers I got to kill him because these people with too much power is like That's how it went It wasn't like because they change it in this too He was like studying serum stuff and super soldiers this whole time. He knows loads about all of it And it's just like wait Because I saw an article actually that went through like I don't know if this lines up because he says He's known the power broker for years and that he's like been researching all of this stuff It was super soldiers for a long time couldn't have been done from prison And so it leaves like this gap in the time between Age of Ultron and civil war that he might have done it Or if it was a part of the spec ops team that he was a part of that they wanted to keep an eye on Is really I'd have to get all the references myself I'm not too invested in looking into that stuff because I feel like the other ways they destroy everything Are much more significant in the show than whether or not zemo was looking into super soldiers I just think it was really funny that they're like hmm The first time we heard about the flag smashes was because our associate in the government told us about a meeting they had And he knew about it because he's been keeping an eye on their message boards to all the people to try and help them join the cause That is of course nothing we can use. Let's instead go to zemo Like why why didn't you use that? Why they have they have like big the symbol they Opposed online your guy was on their trail. That seems like the lead Go do that Leads like zemo someone who's probably gonna have his own agenda and he's gonna be super dangerous to like be involved in So it's like why not pursue news that are probably gonna Be more reliable Yeah, I remember he's been like, okay show you wanted zemo. I guess you got him Because they just decided that's the case. We'll come back to him But um, it seems that they caught up with this safe house Good old walker in the government people the g.r.c. People. I guess I don't know And uh, but it's a it's a it's a dead end Just it's just an empty safe house. Oh, we need a lead. And so I think at the end of this scene after they show walker is like stressed out They do the thing with the camera is like getting close to him blurring and shaking and he's like, oh god again Oh, jeez. It's like uh-oh Uh-oh, he's gonna explode and kill somebody with his shield. Who knows what's gonna happen Terrifying, um But they're like, you know who probably will have a lead bucky and falcon. It's like, yeah If only they just joined up with you and we're And so we get another like I see this as the highway scene kind of where after I saw this I was just like again and this show doesn't stop these kinds of scenes where something happens and it's catastrophic so First of all, we know that winter soldier is not quite trusted yet by the government as someone who isn't gonna start stabbing people They're worried about him There is no way in the world That he's gonna be let like anyone would let him stay in the room with the last man to program him to kill everyone not gonna happen I'm just funny because the second he steps in he immediately starts saying the words It's like oh shit Whoever thinks where he's like it that doesn't work anymore. It's like dude That's super risky and whoever let you into that room probably shouldn't have let you into that room for that exact reason Well, this is the funny thing It's like imagine bucky comes to them and then the jim and police like oh You're not allowed to see him anyway and he goes no no no no I am he goes okay. Well, you're not allowed to see him because you might be a horrible middler He's like no no no no. I was at Wakanda They've sold me right out Like that's nice. You're still not allowed to see him Because I don't believe you. It's like no seriously. They said the words. I was looking at a fire. It didn't work. It's like, okay Have you tried it with zemo? No I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work with zemo if it didn't work with the Wakanda lady. That's the same I guess And then it's like, okay bucky. Do you know if there is another code he could use? No, maybe So yeah, you're not gonna see him buddy. It's not gonna happen. I'm sorry you can leave now Also, we're gonna let the government know you tried to see zemo because why wouldn't we it's a very strange thing You're doing I imagine the therapist will probably like you tried to see zemo. What the fuck? What's going on? Why why why is any of this happening? but If only him seeing zemo was The biggest of the issues with all this. How did you guys feel about the prison break scene? Did you love it? It was dumb What It seemed like a really easy prison to break out of and the guards seemed incredibly gullible You could tell that um, it was an afterthought they were like he gets out shut up He's out and it's like no, we actually have to write something because audience members will be confused There's a lot in this show where people just solve problems with tech They just happen to have like how did they get a key card for him to get out of the room in the first place So that would never happen. There's just no way Con anything that goes into zemo's cell is going to be checked back to front with scanners on just by hand They'll scan through everything. It's like, yeah, this is okay. It's a book. I guess. Look. Oh, there's a key card in here Oh, probably take that out. Yeah probably Um, but that's that's step one and that's like the most important step Well, the rest is just distracting guards They want us to believe that bucky then Must have gotten a book, but the key how did he get a key card? How did any like yeah, but he got him saying But they put put it in a book and then he managed to sneak that into the stuff that would go to zemo's room pile and then it did And then he was like, hey zemo what um What book are you reading? He was like, oh Lucky valley. He's like, oh, yeah Go look So fucking lame Can you imagine this like collie? What are you reading on dusk up until it's like, oh It's like when um in in fucking man of steel. He's like he's reading play toe and he's like 12 year old You know, I'm just really interested in in uh, and these uh, these ideas, you know, I'm really interested in greek philosophy Me at 12 year old So how far along have uh, we're at zemo's prism break. I had to step out. We've also we went over all of um Zemo's prism break. Yeah. Oh, yeah We went over the flag smashes and how fucking retarded they are in terms of their plans and how much they don't understand How the government works. It was this whole thing The frigging was very upset. All right. Hey, I'm totally behind him. There's a lot to be upset about Yeah, there's a lot. Uh, there's a lot going on here that doesn't quite uh, doesn't quite add up so the card Um, it gets him through every single lock at every level in the entire prison That seems weird to me like you'd knew I was lucky Yeah, they have the entire system every single lock for every single room has one card That gets you all of it. I don't know that that's normal. I feel like that's not normal at all actually I think start just left some a master key Um And then I'd say I don't know if this is what you guys would agree to be that kind of the worst part It's it's a different kind of problem, but it really annoys me To make everybody busy with a riot Bucky tries to convince prisoners to kill each other Yeah, so if any one person died, wow, you guys are super duper fucked That's incredibly unethical Bucky not cool, bro The fact that the guy buys it as well like he just slips him a note saying this guy's gonna kill you tonight And so he immediately just launches himself at the dude and tries to kill him First like you wouldn't think to investigate this a little bit before you act because like this guy could kill you in return It's ask him about it. See what's going on see like it's like, hey, you got a problem Like did I do something to offend like nothing? He just instantly tries murdering him It's like wow that that worked really that worked exactly the way you thought it would Yeah, it's like no It couldn't possibly be like one of your fellow inmates Perhaps who's trying to provoke you into killing one of their enemies. It's like no, no, no He just I'll believe it instantly and just go for it No, I Could you imagine Were they wearing a disguise the two of them? Or a bucky was he wearing a What would it do guys or something? What do you mean like a like a face mask thing? Something yeah, like a uniform No Because I was like yeah, because I figured no because I figured everyone because the Of all the places that will have a lot of cameras a A prison a jail That that's like, you know, it's got ground zero for being recorded so You think he goes in every they're gonna watch him with the note They're gonna be watching them the guards are gonna be watching them all the prisoners are gonna be watching them He's like, oh shit. Hey, it's like Oh, yeah, that's another thing bucky was lucky. Sorry not bucky as Zima was lucky that none of the other Uh people on on things saw him no inspired him at all um He is very easy that he would have been like of all the people on call that day You know, it could be pretty easy to notice. There's a little bit of luck involved there But I don't think that like pales compared to the rest of this nonsense Uh He's out and that's that it's literally like in the opening three minutes. It's just like oh, yeah Like I was thinking maybe there'd be a whole episode devoted to it Um or half an episode there'd be a huge but no it's just told kind of after the fact And it just sort of happens and it's so quick That you could go you could go take a bathroom break and you'd miss it and it'd be gone and over You know, I like what happened while I was gone. I was uh, I was you know away. Oh, they they broke Zima out of prison I love as well I love how like he you know He knocks out a guard steals his uniform and just kind of puts the cap down a little bit lower and like nobody recognizes him You know, like probably the most dangerous prisoner in the entire prison like and none of the other guards like Happened to notice that he's in that guard uniform now No one watching the cell with their eyeballs. It's no one watching the anything. It's no one. No, like are there Is door being opened by a key card would set off notifications everywhere It'd be like Zima's prison cells opening. What the fuck? Who's doing that? Let's go more basic than that his cell being opened by a key card One yeah one key card Oh, yeah I feel like you'd want to I feel like you'd want to go old school with it like you have to have a fucking key A metal ass key does he wait? How does he does he open the door from the inside? You wouldn't even think that would be like an option Yeah, you it'd be weird. Hey, you want to put like a cell where you can unlock it from the inside Why would we have that when is there gonna be a scenario where the person Inside the cell needs to be Well, not even then because the other guards will be like, oh, I was gonna say that's just inside was Zima again classic jerry Classic jerry I don't yeah That's not a thing. I'm trying to see if I can I don't think they show it I think they show him grabbing the key card And then starting the riot. I'm waiting for it. Oh, he just opens the door and then he sees a guard And beats them up. You don't really like All right Zemo is like, oh shit. There's some shit going down. We need a lot of people to make sure Zima don't get out Oh, yeah Well, also if a riot happened imagine they just did a lockdown that like prevented anyone from getting out of the main doors Yeah, like gates Close or drop down or you know the computer system they would absolutely do Yeah Prison riot is not a good idea to like get someone out of prison because it's chaos Yeah, like that could very well happen It's so risky So outside of all the logistical stuff of how this doesn't make any fucking sense at all and it wouldn't be possible Is bucky and falcon okay? Or are they okay with with having him on their team? My vote would be no bucky's been forced into position of being okay with a like, okay Well falcon would say no and he does he's like no, this is fucking crazy not happening The bucky's like come on. We need him. He goes, okay as long as you you take our orders and then he's like I will Don't worry Well, he said he would so he said he would I'm convinced I cross my heart and hope to die Also, like you're essentially throwing their lives away because it's like, yeah, we broke him out of prison We're going to be bringing them all over the country. It's like Oh, yeah, they finished. Yeah, they're done. Uh, so at this point, they're vigilantes again They've broken out one of the most famous like most important prisoners probably around these days like he's I value as fuck when he blew up the un that was the probably gave him quite the profile um An assassinating kink t'chaka that probably fucked up relationship with wargwakand a little bit There's a lot of reason why you want to hang on to him Um, and if you see these two carting him around like just random example I'm thinking like hypothetically here if like a like a government agent like a g rc agent Like a like a guy who works for them like a captain of some kind was to find them He would probably be like wow you've broken every law you have to go to prison You guys are fucked up miserably evaded and abetted a very wanted criminal Like how ridiculous would it be if he was like, yeah, I'll work with you guys A bit much. I don't think I yeah, that seems a little Yeah, it was just an idea. I had my head. I was like imagine he worked with him. He's like that would be really dumb And what if um, what if semo didn't have the plane What was their plan? Well, let's get around funny I guess they gave him a phone and he was like, hey butler get all of my stuff where I needed to be He's like, okay And they didn't they just introduced in just in this show that he was rich I thought he was supposed to like a modest like humble man before That's how he was presented in civil war for sure a little wibbly wobbly, right? I guess we'll we'll go over and see what you guys think so So covia is a failed state and when it was under attack in some way It was like when ultron first arrived Someone of baron's emos means it's like the fifth state of matter Surely he should be able to take very good care of any family he has like they would be escorted immediately by gods out of So covia They would probably maybe not even really be in so covia potentially like they might have like a place They actually live this way He describes it as like a shitty place to live, but it always came across to me That it wasn't that he was there because He was he was there because that's where he lived that's where he was Born grew up whatever and then he was a part of the the military and special forces of so covia or whatever That's just seems to be how it was but it's like no he was really rich He sent his kids to his dad Then they all died Did he not have like a bunker? Did he not get like any why didn't he fly them out? I don't know seems like the guy is loaded Feels weird that there it made more sense to me that it was literally just your average like shitty house or something And they were just in there. Yeah See like the iron man through the car window like I always got the sense It was just a regular car not that like he had a limo and a driver. It's just like It seemed like it's just a normal guy who has special forces and just another part of sycovia essentially Yeah, but now he's like super rich and I feel like he's only super rich for the plot and it's fucking with my perception of zemo in civil war And they just Go ahead Oh, they just needed to get around so they just made zemo rich. We need a plane to get somewhere. Oh, yeah I had a plane Well up until that point the government was caught in the maraud like free of charge I love the idea that zemo just gets onto a government airplane. He's just like, yeah This makes enough sense. I guess what up fellas Uh, and a lot of people are saying he's rich in the comics though. It's like Oh, so This is yeah Watching an adaptation and we're saying that this is like clashing what was set up in the previous installment with this character. So So good Um Then begins mad rapport Now I Going to do something a little fun. All right guys get excited. Okay. I like fun I put time into this Big amounts of time you will have fun. What I'm gonna do is summarize mad rapport from when they enter To when Sharon saves their lives. That's about where I'll cut it off I'll summarize it as best I can And we'll play a little game See how many things you guys as a team can spot as problems because there's a lot They're not fucking anything but annoying And then I will put a thing on screen to see how we're doing. It's like a little bingo game. Okay Oh my goodness gracious. It's so great. I'm very excited. So let me pee real quick What I will do I guess first like I said is just explain The events and you will be tempted you'll be like wait stop. I want to talk about how stupid that thing It's like well, what do you need to do is like write a little note? Okay, write a little note Then we shall return and for every point any one person right? It's gotta go one at a time too You can't be going like three points. You're one at a time. You ever want a chance? And um, we'll talk about how dumb it is and I'll knock it off the list and if you guys you guys I found 22 in this selection Um or 21. I can't quite remember Uh, either way what you guys can do is is probably add to them or just find the ones that I found as well This was phenomenal when we watched it the matter of course sequence It's uh, it breaks basically all of the characters and the um And the world building quite a bit lots of fun to be had so I suppose I'll just start up by um Describing what happens they come to mad report because Zemo is pretty sure that uh, the the serum has been fucking with I think it's something to do with the power broker. He's like, he knows them He knows someone who's vaguely involved with the serum. So he wants to go to mad report and meet them His goal Is to get a meeting with selby and offer this selby person The winter soldier in exchange for information on the person that is currently working on the super soldier serum Which is you know a political plotline, right? However, they can't just go there Right because this is a pirate nation or some bullshit and it has been for 500 plus years It's it's like this place that's they describe it as lawless. Now. I know you're all tempted to talk already. No stop, okay Um, oh drink a city has to drop off for a little bit Hopefully returns, but it's okay because everyone's gonna want to talk over each other for this one. Trust me So yeah, they arrive in this lawless place and of course they're worried about being uh being spotted Right. So Zemo's like, ah, so we're gonna have to come in as baron Zemo. That's easy the winter soldier That's easy, of course the winter soldier is a villain. So that'll be great. He can go in Ah, but falcon, who's falcon gonna be? Well, you can be smiling tiger Is uh, there's a guy who often comes to mad report who is smiling tiger He's a bad guy too and he just looks right like like falcon. So he'll just be smiling tiger. He'll dress up as him He'll be fine. They all head in and um, there's this the bar man is like, hey smiling tiger Do you want your usual and he nods and he gets him his drink. That's so funny It's like he pulls something out of a snake and he's like, ah, how how strange and unusual I must drink this drink and he does and he's like, ew, that was a drink that I drank that was So funny and then someone is like, ah, salbi won't see you zemo go away And then he's like, hey winter's winter soldier bucky. You're gonna have to fuck some people up he starts fucking them all up And before you can really figure out what the hell's happening Uh, they're like, okay, salbi will see you now. And so they go and gets they go see salbi And uh, salbi's like, oh, hey, um, yeah, I remember you smiling tiger You're uh, I think she says like meow or something at him. It's really fucking weird They're like Oh my god, so You uh, you guys want information, huh? Well, you can have crumbs But you can't have the bakery she gives them the name of the seara maker, but that's it And so it seems like we're on board if we just sell winter soldier for salbi's information We're gonna get the next line of the plot Unfortunately sam's phone rings and his sister speaks to him. She's like, hey, buddy Chocolate crisps ice cream. I don't know she talks about something and he's like, oh my god You're so awkward with your talking you stop that right now And the call ends with her saying goodbye sam Sam she calls him sam. Oh, oh no salbi realizes the jig is up and she has all of her men try to kill them Um, but of course our heroes survive this encounter and kill everybody there Um and head outside zemo says, you know drop your guns fucking hell. You don't want guns now That would be really bad. It would be bad for us to have guns And so they head outside there is a bounty of I think 1000 bitcoin something I have to check Literally as they leave salbi's place 97 doge coin 69 doge coin um So yeah, the there's a bounty goes out for salbi's killers as they leave the area and everyone knows it was them Of course already like literally they leave the fucking building and everybody in the area knows it was them that killed salbi and wants the bounty Because it's you know, yeah, so they start running And um like this man jumps in for it. We're almost there guys I know you're probably desperate to talk about this and it's like so many things So they they run this guy jumps out in front of him this fucking legend And he tries to shoot them with his gun and they're like, oh my goodness And so falcon and bucky sprint forward while zemo sprints backwards They run they run they run they run down a street another street and then Sharon Sharon Carter the legend Snipes the people that were chasing them one guy left is about to shoot them and zemo shoots them in the back saving them That Is where I will pause. Wow. Hey, man I would try to keep track of everything as a newest sugar What a journey Backing and I was like I'm forgetting some of the previous places. Where do we start again? What's the what's the starting point? Let's see how gross that you're gonna put up that might help direct our um So I don't think I've got everything in here But what I have got is one two three four five six seven eight points for mad rapport There's in general as a location how it works Or for falcon three for bucky three for Sharon two for salby two for zemo problems Do whatever you want mad rapport go for it Alrighty so mad rapport. We're just I I always get worried when once again, we just start inventing places like this That we're here all along and it's not a real place because this could have been Hong Kong or some South sea well the problem is that you can't have it be Hong Kong and the reason why is because Hong Kong wouldn't be the place that it was if it was lawless this lawless Can't exist. Well, that's the first floor. Yeah. Well, that's that's the yeah That's part of it is instead of have it you did it doesn't have to be lawless Uh, they Sorry, was your point that we've never heard of it before Well, my point is I I'm always concerned when these these new places that don't exist Just get invented on the spot for the shows and things and the ideas that they want My mine is that a lawless state like mad rapport doesn't exist. It can't exist How can they have skyscrapers or buildings or infrastructure? There's no laws Yeah, it's not like South Sudan. All right, like it's yeah, we have lawless places highly developed Yeah, we have lawless places. They don't work out really well. It's a they're horrible awful places full of violence and Terror and it is really really really bad Uh, but mad rapport seems to be an extremely it like it looks like an a gleaming Idealized city of the future. I mean it's lit up like a Christmas tree. It seems to be a big first world Modernized skyscraper Yeah I mean, it's got that vast bridge like futuristic looking bridge that leads into it You get into mad rapport if it's lawless, do they have like customs or how do you get in? Yeah, why are they walking across the bridge? And if you could just walk in and this is a really nice place, why wouldn't everybody just come here and get and get rich? Yeah, if you just let people come into your amazing place regardless of who they are or where they're from And you don't know anything about them. Yeah, things start to go downhill pretty quick Uh So and and they don't extradite is something Sharon says like they don't that sounds like a policy Like yeah But yeah, uh, the two first points I've got here is clearly not lawless an extravagant place filled with the desperation for imports and exports They don't extradite meaning a system of governance has to exist They uh, despite the fact that they deny it and not to mention a bounty system in place Presumably authorities in short is completed in some way shape or form. There's got to be some form of ruling system You see the idea that it's lawless The only way that would work is in the most superficial of set like they have a bunch of these rules that are enforced by people But they're called laws. You're like, okay Lawless but not really Yeah, there clearly is like they say it's lawless, but there definitely seems to be a This person gives the orders these people obey it. There's obviously rules I mean you have to have like a society of this level of sophistication and success Because it's shown to be a very successful and thriving place These places don't exist, you know outside, you know laws You have to have a structured society. Don't believe it at all makes me kind of wonder why they even bothered to say it's lawless Um, presumably they're doing it to make it sound badass because uh, it's like, oh anything can happen here It's the old bets are off. It's like, well, no not really because even if it's like mob rule There's probably a whole and look at the place clearly. There's rules. It would be a fucking disaster if it was all over the place Yeah, like you have to pay for your drinks and stuff and I don't know it. It's weird if you want to argue. It's like it's not traditional Well, that yeah that the bitcoin apparently cracking bullets. Um, the idea there's like it's not traditional authorities Not a traditional government or something like so calling it lawless. It's just you just not giving information correctly Like please uh Yeah, as I think I guess they just wanted to set up an idea in your head and then when you go there You're like, oh, this isn't really like what I expected from a lawless place that you invented It's actually just like a normal city from the looks of it It looks like a cyberpunk world It does. Mm-hmm. Well, it's supposed to look really really cool. I was like, oh, look at this. It's cool Wow, what a cool place. Um, it's not on my list But I would also accept that like the idea that we have never heard of this place before But it's specifically useful for the plot line in this it's just like we need a place that's this this this this like this place Exit and for anybody who's like one wait, but madre pour is a real place in in the uh, the comics like that is not enough Don't care. No, it's not. Yeah So I'm trying to think of what the next issue with madre pour would be I'm sure I had it The one thing I will say is that some of the categories I have might be stuff that could be categorized in either The will building or a particular character. So, you know, don't worry about Oh, here's a question if uh, if madre pour is this crazy lawless place where a bunch of criminals are How could that possibly exist wouldn't governments just send in people to come and kill them? Yeah, country countries would want to claim that land that especially a city like this they want that Yeah, they'd come in with an army and say madre pour is part of this country now I was about to say if they don't extra that as well That's something that would be exploitable and you'd imagine the other governments that have a problem with that Why doesn't every criminal go to madre pour? Yeah, why doesn't zemo actually go to madre pour when he's done with his shit? Uh, also, what do you when you say they would people come to destroy it? What would be the the motivation there just to clarify? It's a it's a it's a place that is lawless where criminals congregate and it's a tiny little island country Why would we not just come in and be like no no, you know what we're coming in. We're gonna arrest all you Um, you're done. You're all here. We know where you are because you're congregating here and there's no government So who's gonna stop us? And you think the grc would come in there and claim the place for like housing and shit for people I think it would I don't think this country exists. I think it gets taken over like pretty quickly. Um, yeah um Especially why would you allow this place to exist? Yeah, because the nature of this place is that it will negatively impact the world With how it's set up. What a great stuff. What two or three points. That isn't all my list And um see I was um That that pertained to madre pour specifically. Yeah, they go in on a really nice bridge don't know how the bridge is upkept Um, how do they why do they get there by walking across the bridge? Yeah, so they arrive walking across the bridge and then a car comes from madre pour stops and then they get in the car And then the car takes them the rest of the way Why yeah, I mean I mean did the did the filmmakers just want to show off the bridge? I guess they wanted a shot of madre pour like an establishing shot that they thought looks cool Also, they do that they do that trope of explaining what the mission is when they're almost there Instead of yeah, this happens. Yeah, that's one of the issues with the first fight And that opens up the the show. Is that right before he's jumping out of the plane? He's getting briefed Aliases to him while they're crossing the bridge it's like Yeah, they're explaining things way too late. Yeah, you'd think you'd be if okay So the success of this mission and very potentially our personal safety Relies around you convincingly playing this character Which mean that you need to study him Learn how he operates learn his speech. In fact, here's some videos of him talking and giving presentations or or being out and about Here's how he moves. Here's he has this accent Um, here's what his name is. Here's a list of kin Here's you know, the things he likes to do. Here's his favorite hunts of madre pour Um, no, it's just no you're smiling tiger here be him Oh, it's even worse It's even worse because okay, so one of the things I wrote down is that he's specifically told the character He's playing is african and he makes no attempt to have any sort of non-american accent Well, he doesn't try to Yeah, he tries to like speak at all that he has to but then he does he does several times But they don't notice that he doesn't speak Like an african man They notice when they say his name the people who wrote this show they think if you're black That you're just magically an african person Wait, hold on If if they I don't know if this is a world building one or a sam one, but like Surely people know what this guy looks like, right? Well, it's another yes And and he does look similar to sam quite a bit So the criticism I would say is do these people not know who falcon is? Yeah, well, I mean, of course there's that but Well, you see it's lawless. So there's no newspapers or internet service providers. So they don't get you know, they just don't get filled in Yeah Wait, which one Which ever one's we're done so that we Oh, I have there's a thing a lot of what you guys imagine so far already. I've got my list just more because this is more I think we're just test subjects for your videos I think the fact that he makes no real attempt to personify the character. He's playing is a huge flaw. I would Yeah, yeah, but the thing is I guess that ties in with the What uh rax just said about zemo not giving him anything It's like, what do you do if you say well, I guess you complain like why isn't falcon saying anything? I need help. He doesn't even do what they give him you know And does uh, I does zemo know enough to know about his favorite drink having like snake Eggs in it or stuff like that that might cause him concern. Well, this does he think that all black people like snake eggs? I don't know. That's kind of a quite an assumption there zemo, but but it's for a marvel joke It's funny. He has to eat the gross thing even jeopardizing a mission for a joke Well, you know the if if you'll zemo and you know about this horrible drink and you know falcon's gonna have to Convincingly swallow it because it's his favorite thing ever you should be stressed You should be like oh Fuck like you like by the way when we get there they might ask, you know If you don't ask for your usual or something like that Yeah, yeah all in fact just say that you have a I'll just say that you have like a really sore throat or something So you don't have to talk and just pretend like you're a little bit sick maybe or And to help him out something could be like you could put his hand on there and be like no We're here on business. You're not drinking You're like, oh shit, all right or that could be something that Sam says is like I'd love to but you know Urgent business gotta keep my mind in the job Yeah, gotta we won't be here long places to do gotta do tiger stuff You know me me that tiger guy so um That tiger guy Right, uh the bartender recognizes him but like So how does that work? Yeah, yeah, he recognizes him as I want to make it a bit easier to go for maybe some oh actually finish your thought Because it sounds like you're nearly there I mean, I feel like the bartender would recognize a regular coming in especially one as high profile as smiling tiger You know enough to say you want you want your usual Like he recognizes the person in the drink that they have but he doesn't notice that this isn't that person I mean, I agree about that. Hmm. I mean, what if they knew it's like smiling tiger was elsewhere? What is smiling tiger? Yeah, where's the real smiling tiger? That would be awkward Oh, that could have been a cool scene that they had where he sits down at the bar And he inadvertently sits right next to the real smiling tiger who's in the bar that would be kind of funny Yeah, it would have been but forget I it'd be funny and this show doesn't give a shit What if what if he gets the drink right? It's not a stupid flume drink. It's like a normal one And then the bar the bartender is like wow another one already and he's like Well, then that would have to be like he's actually wearing the exact same fucking outfit too. Okay, whatever I don't think it was very clever of them to do in the first place. I'm just trying to help with We're trying to make the best of a bad situation I mean in terms of uh, yeah go ahead Um, why is it? That you why can't sam just be some guy Why does he have to be smiling tiger? Yeah, well, can you just be literally like one of zemos? Why can't he just be it? Yeah, why can't he just be a dude? That would allow him to talk to this woman. Sorry. I just said that's a no no way Yeah, I I don't get why you would put up the incredible risk of trying to impersonate a high profile well-known Gang lord dude when he could just be a guy with zemo Especially because him being smiling tiger isn't what gets them the meeting and it fucks the whole me in Yeah, I don't I don't get a reason why he's smiling tiger It just makes things really difficult for him later on for drama. Yeah. Oh, that was dumb of zemo Uh, I I kind of want to I want to put these ones down because I already know these are obvious So with the sharon one was she just like how did she know that they were there? Why was she set up a sniper ready to kill this person? How did you find them later on? Hey, what do I say about one at a time? No I'm always supposed to cross these off. I can't remember what you just said. Sorry. The first one is wish How did sharon know that they were there? Uh, yeah, we so knowing that she's the power broker does that help this at all How does it help? Why would you why would you know that they're there in madra pour? Well, so I think you can go even earlier than that. What are the odds of her being in madra pour? Uh, pretty low. It's just like that's incredibly lucky that she's just there Mm-hmm And then she's actually really powerful Was she just waiting for them to show up with a sniper rifle there just to kill this person? Yeah And is she not concerned about the consequences of killing this person the whole like what are the odds of her? Being here and at this time in many portions of the entire madra pour scene. They're all it's all horrible Like she had to be at that time And she had to be Ready to kill selby then she had to be ready with the sniper to kill the people that came after the baguette It's insane. I don't know how any of it makes sense Also, is this I don't know if this is if this is like a retroactive one But if she has that mask, why isn't she wearing it like all the time? Why would she risk being caught as the sniper? If she has a piece of tech that can completely conceal her identity Why isn't she just wearing that every time she goes out basically that was weird even? Yeah Well, yeah, that's the problem is like once you introduce it's like why aren't you wearing this like all the time? Are you what happens if somebody lets like I feel like it's going to get leaked that you're a really important person to the US government At some point if you're going around taking these fancy gullas did nobody take a picture of you with all of this stolen artwork and everything How can you protect your identity as the power broker? You can't that's that's the real answer to that question Somebody took a picture. You're done Nobody but that's that's not a mad report issue So well, uh, yeah, that that wasn't even like someone else thinking about because I was writing these as I was sort of going through But like yeah retroactively she should be using that mask Yep, a one for falcon is that he didn't put his phone on silent. He'd use it Have the scene with the phone. It's just like sam you did not shut that thing off or put it on silent like why? Yeah, you idiot You know, just cross it off watch this show I didn't put it together that Sharon and the sniper were the same person You know like I thought like Because I because I even asked like so where's the sniper? Who's he is he working for her or is he another? Like person is he a another someone who's been tailing them or Like who's the sniper and I guess she was supposed to be the sniper Which brings in a lot of interesting logistical questions that my brain just couldn't You know figure out or solve like how do you how are you there? Are you always just looking at that window ready to kill people? Um, how did you find them afterwards and nobody else really did? How come everyone forgets about the bounty? Really quickly. I guess no one They just that just gets dropped Well, she says you need to leave mad report soon because like that bounty is going to get you guys fucking killed It's like, yeah, the body will be forgotten the second they leave mad report because Whatever, you know, like it Assuming it's like well, they're they're off, you know, they're off mad report Hold on. Let me let me figure that out for a second Was that actually the price a thousand bitcoin? So they got a thousand bitcoin Uh and bitcoin in us dollars to make it easy for you guys because obviously comes up Well careful though, they don't have the same economy for bitcoin as we do Uh, yeah, but it's okay. So she was going to get so it's worth 48 thousand dollars So you add three more zero. So it's like 48 million dollars and that's after it's kind of crashed a little bit lately Well, I was just gonna say though, but like couldn't bitcoin could be completely different in a post blipwild I don't it's still a lot of money like Is what I the reason why they cited it was because it was a lot of money But it was yeah, surely it's supposed to be a lot of money like a thousand bitcoin That's how they win as writers, right? They're like, it's a lot you go How much a lot how much though specifically how much a lot like no just a lot is like and I guess that's good enough You know, it's a lot of money Okay Yeah Wait, does she have like a text alert system for everyone in madrefour? Yeah, just when she gets shot does a text message just automatically go outside. I'm dead And how does anybody know who killed her? I do not know Fuck man Okay, so I had a question about selby if we can Jump ahead a minute Why doesn't she give them all the information by does she only give my crumbs? Oh, well she says that um So for the presentation of the deal and good faith, she gives a crumb of detail But once they finalize the deal she'll give it the rest And the deal is that she gives them anything Well, yeah, it's it's it's just to give them the name so they can work with it, right Lot wise, but for some reason she decides I'll give you the name and and once you get me winter soldier for realsies Then I'll give you the rest I mean, I don't know that's really bizarre Does she not know that like winter soldier participated in the battle for like well, I would summarize that as number 14, which is boop No one here knows that bucky barns was pardoned That yeah, that's also the thing and we hadn't really even gotten much into bucky at all. Um But yeah, I think this show this entire show It's it it plays very very conveniently with when people are or are not Recognized when they should always be recognized pretty much everywhere Because in this world they are super celebs. They are one of the avengers essentially and you know the winter soldier Extremely famous and high-profile individuals No, they're not I've had a lot this stream, but it's that's how it feels when you watch this show No, it's the simpsons reference. It smells Okay, all right then. Yeah, it solves that All right, what else we got? Um, I like your notes here. What are the fucking odds you would be imagine for how How did a bounty for 1k bitcoin, which is a fucking lot by the way? Right out the moment so we died Um So for selby, um, I think it's super duper bizarre that after that phone call From a high-profile crime boss in your office. You decide to kill him Like instantly like yeah, this woman this woman called you sam. Oh number 19 And it says There's selby thinks that someone having an alias or having not revealed their real name is an impossibility And that they must die for it in a in a place where People in a lawless place full of crime lords and intrigue and probably double crossing and all of these mafia games Yeah, using an alias What? No, you should be using your real name all the time just like I do Just like the guy next to you called the winter soldier I love it. If like it hangs up. She goes sam and then like they raise the guns and he goes Do you think smiling tiger was my name? But more I got one for selby like why didn't she try out those uh secret words for uh For bucky to test, you know to test his winter soldierness She kind of just accepts it. Oh, yeah, he's uh, he's the winter soldier We'll give you give him data whatever I suppose like usually people would test their merchandise before buying, you know If she doesn't know the words and then she would be like bucky or zemo gimme the words That would be like a part of the probably end of their transaction. I imagine right you wouldn't want to do that before You know, what was their plan after their transaction ends? Good point That's not what it's on my list, but I was thinking about it as I was summarizing. I was like, wait, what if this went through? What do we do there? You just kill her Do you think there'll be no consequences for that? Well, as we learn there aren't any so I guess they we're really looking into the future with that one Everybody records bucky killing those people while beating them up and there are no consequences for it. Ding number 15 yeah thought so Uh, we were sure because they take the time to show us everyone recording him We were like, oh, that's gonna come up, but it's gonna be really annoying in the plot It'll be like you can't do something because of this They didn't even do it. Nope. He's got rocks. Yeah, the Because in episode uh four they have everybody pulling out their phones, you know at walker and it's a big deal But here when they pull out their phones, it doesn't matter Oh, we're the because these are the heroes. So, oh, yeah, it's fine Uh, when else we go anything else? Let's see. You've got one issue there. I've got two for Zemo. That's just it's zoomed in a little bit Is it a problem? Why doesn't Zemo just use his status as baron Zemo to get this meeting instead of relying on a fake person? I think we went over that but uh, yeah, I think as far as the list Yeah, that was the whole why bother with smiling tiger thing. Um Uh, let me see Zemo. Um, oh sharon. Why wasn't her record expunged? Why wasn't she uh, why wasn't she why didn't why didn't captain america help her? Uh, I didn't include that in this list because that's like That got brought up like the second the scene ends when they have that conversation It's like, all right, let's talk about sharon and her position in the world how much it doesn't make sense We'll probably do that in a bit, but yeah, it's fair Christ, um So I get zozemos plan in the bar is to have winter soldier beat up a bunch of people so that Um, yeah, so why why did he do that? Um, I've got the buck, you know, I have a problem with doing that Like why is he cool with that number 21 is managed to win his way to salvi by beating the shit out of random guys Despite being unwelcome. I don't know what else to say about that. It's just weird. So it's like Yeah, that seems like the opposite of what would get you an audience. That's that's the opposite of what you do Yeah, like if she didn't want to talk to you before It's weird that beating up a bunch of people and causing problems would definitely That could have killed you guys. I mean everyone had guns there. Yeah. Why didn't they shoot him? I mean if we're going with oh We maybe that's what keeps everyone in check is that everyone has guns. So if you start fucking around you're going to get shot What if they did get attacked like before they got there? What if somebody's like i'm going to kill the winter soldier? That'd be a pretty cool thing to do Oh, oh, it's baron zemo. He's super duper rich. Oh, look. He's talking right next to an adventure. Oh my gosh There's the winner soldier bucky barns, but he's Does anybody care why zemo is out of prison? Does anybody give a shit? You'd think the governments would have a really hefty bounty in his head Oh, I think with the recording wouldn't they have recorded zemo with uh with the winter soldier Yeah, so they would so they would know that the people as if they needed more, you know The more to go off of the idea that it was them who broke zemo in a prison never go to germany again Well, I was gonna say that I feel like we were explicit a little earlier What I said like literally captain fucking america sees them together so they're done But the plot doesn't do anything with that because it's stupid. Yeah But yes, that would that was a fair flaw. You could say like they've been caught now 100% Everyone definitely knows who broke out zemo and if and if they're going around beating people up and if for I don't know Does it count as a foreign nation? I mean It's still trouble making abroad. So I guess it probably falls under the You know the blanket of you just broke someone out of prison zemo of all people and you went to this place and you started beating people up Flouting his you know Winter soldier status and meeting crime lords like that's not a great look That's got some optics issues. I feel Oh Pretty much got half my list all over it else we go Still we got still five for matter for here a very mild thing, but like what kind of nickname is the power broker I just feel like that's at least a mass effect. It was the shadow broker and you're like, oh secretive I am confused about the status of the power broker. How did this all arise? When did you get all this sorted out? When did you come to mad report? How high status are you in mad report? How many people know who you are? They have the benefit of just yeah, that's a story for another time. You'll uh, yeah, whatever I never want to see her again Are you destroyed her character? So it's like yeah, yeah Further is like evil. It's like what how and why because she might be a scroll Secret invasion make sure you keep your disney plus subscription active Tune in next time Yeah One I just want to add in case it doesn't quite get uh Put on right so This is counted as a mad report one, but it's really just plot armor So I'm showing it on screen. They are walking down the street as a three This guy just turns up. He's got his machine gun right there. He starts firing and this is this is all that happens Like oh he it's sparked in the background over there How did he miss? I don't know I don't know what happens in this. It's just like I don't know how yeah, he managed to hit everything except Yeah, there's a Yeah, it's definitely retarded Yeah, that's definitely a lot of plot armor happening where people with guns can't hit obvious targets in front of them uh, so, uh Zemo ran away Right. Yes, and what why do you come back? Um, why didn't he run away? So that's an that's the only instance probably in this entire fucking show that we get to talk about why he might have done that And come up with something like maybe he thinks that they're kind of useful Maybe he doesn't want them dead. He feels that they are his best bet at stopping the super soldiers Yeah, maybe he really just doesn't think they should die. Maybe he's like okay with them, you know Maybe um He does hang out with them a whole bunch It's only once the fucking stupid Wakanda people show up that he leaves them though And kind of I was kind of I thought you were getting for a different one there which is um he where uh As far as Zemo runs one way and they run the other way It's up in front of them Yeah, I I guess he went around But like how could he possibly so just to make sure we all understand What we're dealing with here logistically. This is the three of them. All right the gunfires now they run forward and look where Zemo goes They maybe this oh, why are they running towards the gunfire? I don't know where the gunfire is even coming from. Oh, there's people on Oh, but those are just Dead No, they're shooting at him. He runs back. So Zemo is dead Well, no those people on the motorbikes. Are they are those just flares? What are those? Are those guns? I'm sure Is that the they're shooting in the air Yeah, it's flawless missing because it's flawless Yeah, they're just having they're just having a great time. Yeah, they're just shooting up into the air They're just having a each other. I mean, you know, it's a friday night Why don't they follow them? They just drive away So but he's he's aiming at them. So they run towards him Those bullets are coming from in front of them. The way this is filmed they react to him They see him in front and they're like, oh, shit guy with gun and then the he just he gets plucked out of existence Yeah, yeah, and they run towards him And the guys on the bikes drive past them instead of killing them Motorcycle game Well, they've been they've been having a party so they don't know about the bounty Yeah, I mean this is just this is wildly. This is I think that's what it's supposed to be Yeah, it's this is just madrepoor. This is just what happens, you know, you just walk down the street Occasionally might get shot at what a great place to live. No, everyone shoots in the sky. They don't want to shoot at each other You know Yeah, because that will that would violate the nap if they shot at each other This is just like up in the air. They're having a great old time You know, it's it's a it's like a 24 seven party here in madrepoor because you know, it's lawless And that's what it would be madrepoor is free of logic Yeah, free of logic reason consequences to actions Terrifying guys. Well, so the thing I wanted to highlight right is they're running a straight shot forward to the camera Zemo's ran off back to the left And he's not looking at him. He's faced away He's running. He has no idea they could go left right diagonal even they could go back They could be like wait Zemo just ran over there. Let's go get him They run forward And let me put my copyright protection up here They keep running forward running forward running forward running forward the chased by motorbike people They've turned down some alleyways a couple of times somewhere And then the two motorbikes get shot and uh Zemo is just here He knew they were gonna be here He just knew No Just all right. So that is the other Zemo points like how with all of that. How did that just happen? I don't know. It's it's like a freak. It's it's a freaky street, you know Yeah, this is a street, but not like a normal street. We're like a freaky street freaky street. Yeah It's lawless and that the laws of physics don't apply either I see a theme of some of the points that are left are ones that you guys would make more if you had seen the scene More recently, so I do want to like help out a little bit, but uh The like magic magic pour itself When when selvi selvi just gets shot from outside presumably by charon. It's so absurd. I guess charon knew the jib was up I don't know. Yeah, can she hear How does she know what I'm saying? How does she know I think she's gonna be mad? I know because that's the yeah, so I want you guys to see this because it's one of my favorites All right, so you see this frame you got falcons beating up this guy And there's this little joey back here like oh my god What is happening here? I was making a cup of tea and now look everything's going wrong I'll play it again. It's gone to shit So bucky and takes this guy who's just on the other side of the room make sure he can't kill fucks him up Oh god, we've got glitching. That's probably good for copyright actually and then the scene ends We did it. It's like wait, what about what about what about joey? What happened to him? Oh, he's my favorite character Also, I'm glad joey made it out alive. Yeah This seems so bad sam your sam is like, yeah Yeah What's gonna happen? You think everyone calls me mr. Tiger? Yeah, she just goes kill them. You're like what why and then she gets shot. Yeah, that was my sister She doesn't know about this. Oh my god. Her face came off in vlc. Look I love vlc glitches so much Uh, that means power broker was listening in and when she said kill them She's like right. I get to kill her now. Be like that's the only way I could possible And she I don't know how she's got bedded on the inside or something. I don't know Yeah, joey. We never get to see what happens to joey for For joey favorite car so much to live for Um, also. Yeah, I guess I got one for just like selby's men were fucking useless Not a huge surprise there. They're never gonna be useful. I guess there were no more That was it Um, oh, yeah, that's another one. I've got which is just How would they have gotten past the presumed bodyguards and bounces? Hmm Like they just heard gunfire their boss is dead and these guys are heading out of the room. You'd be like, uh, stop right there question mark I don't know like they skipped over that scene. So we didn't see it I don't know what happened. I guess they made it out just fine. Yeah, I'm supposed to be fine Did so we think there would be no consequences for killing uh, the the snake oil man. Well, it's lawless Yeah, we had like you this is another crime boss and you just kill him in your office just like that Oh, what if the other men in the room were like, we're not fucking killing him. Are you insane? Yeah, and shot her. Yeah, his dudes. Yeah, his dudes are gonna come back and they're gonna kill us and then I mean, yeah, this is definitely against the nap well What I will say is that she wanted to kill smiling tiger because she fully 100 believe she was being tricked as to his identity So that if you again trouble however, surely there would be a bounty for killing baron's emo, right? Does it work the same for her as it does for him? I don't know Or is it just like now you can just kill these you can kill anyone you want unless it's someone who's got a wrap in Sharon wanted the bounty on selby if there was one Did she set the bounty Could she not call it off if she's the power broker like Does she not have the ability to change that because you think she would because it causes her a significant amount of problems She nearly dies in the next no this episode, right? yeah Yes, she miraculously survives You think she yeah, you think she warned her like there's a couple imposters coming in here like as soon as they come in Just fucking kill them, please Yeah, we're supposed to believe then that she was set up because remember she's in the bar listening to the conversation So she runs outside gets her sniper in place to kill selby from across a building And has a listening device in selby says kill them and then and then sharon's like Shoot selby in the heart like a fuck bitch. I hated you I guess Whatever they probably had issues and then she spots them coming out of the club and so she Resets her sniper to a building window that she presumes. They will run past a need defense at What the hell? Like that like just in exactly the right place and exactly the right alleyway that she could not have possibly predicted when Because they ran in a random direction with motorcycles with guns on them. So it's just like I Yeah, teleportation Yeah, and and and then I've got one. I don't know if maybe you guys don't think this is too harsh I don't know but I just have one for like that bar fight Everyone has guns fuck. He's attacking random people. It's like he could easily have been killed and just isn't Yeah, absolutely. Yeah Like this dude just started walking into the bar and he started punching and beating people to shit He's like, yeah, I feel like in a lawless place They'd get dropped pretty quick They probably don't put up with troublemakers I kind of well, no, it's lawless. So they do when something is lawless. It means it's the opposite of how everything works So like they don't they don't drink water. They drink air that makes They drink sulfuric acid Uh and glass is used as a a pillow Oh Yeah, it sees all last all opposite stuff Because that's what it means to be lawless. Um, we brought loads of problems with smiling tiger One of the ones I can't bring up is like man. Lucky. There's a high-profile villain person who looks just like you It's pretty freaking rare Yeah And uh, what do we got left two for mad report? What are these? Uh Yeah, so I think we would have involved this as we were talking But how are the three of them so recognizable as the three who killed selby within like seconds if you were getting a notification You need things like witnesses and like Like who saw them there doesn't seem to be anybody around there's just and and plus there's gunfire from outside of the building So I was like, oh, it's the sniper that killed selby. They're the bounties on The sniper people who are you look at this the message they get is selby dead bounty for her killers Okay, yeah Yeah, who set up the bounty and so uh They they start walking down the street and they look in a window and there's this woman who's I guess Like her job is just you know do stuff in the window She starts like feigning, you know, like shooting them and you're like, wait, you know, it's that how do you know? You're just in I thought you were just some stripper. Yeah, like, how did you know that the people that killed selby? What's happening? It's it's oh the editing is painful. You have no idea where the timeline is. What's going on? Uh Which is and I've got one more flaw at least from my perception and it was wow lucky people just give up after they kill three Like madrop or something. Oh, yeah, we yeah, we said the bounty just gets ignored forgotten We just don't I just stopped like I I thought you meant that in like a world building sense That it's just gone once they're out of madrop or no one cares that it exists What I meant was more so just the action scene just stops for no reason Yeah, I yeah that was lumping that in with part of the bounty just ends so people have no reason to shoot them It just it's all over it's like they hit the invisible trip line and a cutscene started in a video game and when it's over It's all good and back because they have a they don't leave they have a conversation about zemo and charon And they're just standing in the streets like guys should probably go somewhere else somebody just comes along and Riddles them with bullets. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. The plot's protecting them I genuinely think there'll be people who are like, well, no the power broker orchestrated all of it Okay, so it's all running the way she wants it to run Okay, so Sharon is super duper evil then getting all these people to get killed. She could have they could have died So if she orchestrated it that was a terrible plan because it could have killed them easily pretty much man, yeah, and so that's mad rapport I think like And they're absolutely more than that. There wasn't just those Yeah, well, I think the list kind of like came close to doubling with the about you guys added It's just there is yeah a lot of problems in this place Yeah, it's just every yeah this So many and you'll watch it and you'll be like, I don't know No, no, none of it makes sense. None of it works. It's all fucking insane None of it is it's just it's not coherent It's nonsense But they just want things to happen They just want one things to happen and it doesn't matter how we get there It doesn't matter how it's set up the the thing happened Look, we we went to the place and we did the thing at the bar and he drank the drink And that was that and now we're done Shut up. I agree Which pushes us on to Sharon basically explaining Something that we get a nice strike to cap's character quite a significant one basically In civil war, she sacrificed everything to give them their weapons and gear back Which is pretty awesome of her to do And so I guess she left for mad report or something They didn't contact her or give a shit about her in the two years that they were vigilantes Falcon even cites those two years. It's like, hey, I had it tough too. Like Okay, you guys were a big team though, you know, like you were all together Where was Sharon? Why wasn't Sharon contacted? Why wasn't Sharon brought in? It's not like you don't have normal people on your team fucking Black widow joined them They What the hell and he basically apologizes for the fact that they forgot you All right Not not five years in between infinity or an end game like that all that time like cap did nothing after Yeah, it did nothing Like you just forgot about her. It's like wow. Yeah, that's why it's just assassination It's it's civil war all the way to now cap has done nothing for Sharon He fucking forgot about it because he he got a boner for peggy. He was thinking about her and he was like Oh, I just don't care about Sharon. I got I got my suit from her. That's all I wanted And so Sharon should be rightfully pissed, but the problem is I don't believe you writers I don't believe cap would have left her in the dust. I think you're bullshitting me I think you're lying But everyone just not even just cap alone man. Is all the Avengers no one yeah, no one and and it's so casual He's like, yeah, you know, I should have called Fuck you Like this look good enough, man Yeah, let's think about the show. It's very cynical and bitter For no reason. It's like they just everything that was good about the other Movies and shit. We're just like everyone doesn't give a fuck about each other Nobody gives a shit No one give yeah, it's it's weird. It's it's this depressing aura that just Surrounds everything that these characters are in do Yep, what a shame very cynical very And I think if the roosters knew about the so that the roosters were like or someone comes up and goes Well, what happened to Sharon? She's not in a endgame or infinity wall and they go. Oh, yeah I we didn't have really a time to cover it but um, you know, because she was uh, she was with cap I guess or she managed to get pardoned because you know She was punished, of course for giving out the wings, but uh, yeah, you know, it was fine And this one goes I'm gonna make it so that they ditched her and she became a crime lord in matripo And they'd be like Well, I mean, you know, that's yeah, that's just As you do As they're like closing the doors they leave the MCU offices. They're like you are you guys have fun I guess, you know, I don't want to I'm not trying to like big them up. They they wrote endgame, but at the same time for me like Oh, that wasn't that wasn't the plan, but you guys go right ahead I guess, you know, in a way, it's their fault. They should have had a throwaway line for her. I guess They should have had him saying like, oh, no, yeah Karen's doing good. She's doing great. I definitely called her Just saying They asked too late you left the door open and now they've taken advantage She was ditched and she's very furious about it and it it has led her to a life of crime, which by the way Um, I think southpaw was saying to me like oh, she's been assassinated. I was like Maybe if she is sound of mind, then she's been assassinated if she's been brainwashed Or she's not even Sharon Carter and it's someone wearing a super duper face or something Yeah, or a scroll. So we got a lot of options. Um, but yeah, we'll just have to wait until the MCU tells us what's going on That's just still it's like, I guess cap student ballerata. He doesn't care Well, yeah, the fact that falcon confirmed that there was no contact is still terrible So they we can't fix that and like if you were writing after this, you just go no cap did contact me He just didn't tell you falcon. You were an asshole. You didn't find out Okay, guys, what are you doing? It's like you don't know anything. Yeah, nothing matters anymore I mean nothing does matter anymore, but that would just be more More nihilism from the show can't be having enough Yeah, and so something super fucking awkward happens. I really don't like this so Sharon's like You know, this sucks. You can stay here. I guess and then Sam's like we need help with this serum make a guy Give us give us help please and then she's like He goes help. I can get you pardoned And then she says wow you're bargaining with my life and he's like no no no no Like I'll get you pardoned. That's like a promise But I could really use some help, you know, and I can get you pardoned so And it's like You're doing the thing she just said that she says something like I um, I don't trust deals Oh, no, no, she says I don't trust favors or something like that and then he goes, okay fine It's a deal. I'll I'll get you pardoned. You give us this help and I was like, that's the thing She just you bargaining with their life. That's a deal It's Well, I don't take my word for it one to one the problem I take with it is that sam basically agrees in exchange for you giving us help and resources and for what she does If you remember all the fight she gets into I will get you reinstated, which is something that you deserve Right. Is he the problem? Right, you're exerting her for something that you believe that she's entitled to And yeah, they try and dance around it in the dialogue is what I'm saying She's like, I don't trust favors or whatever and he's like fine. We will make a deal You could trust them power not power broker, but you know, she's good with deals And she's like that's fucking shit that you just made it so that they did the thing they weren't supposed to do He shouldn't be playing with their life. It's bullshit Also, does he have the power to do that? Well, he promises it. He reckons he can get it done and if you remember episode six He says I haven't forgotten my promise. So I guess and you know, they have to credit scene She gets her pardon. So I guess he had the power to just get her a part of has that Power. Well, the fact is if bucky can get the fucking pardon she can there's no way that As we said, she should have had it already You should have had a pardon. She doesn't have it because plot It's like all that she did was give steve the shield and sam the wings basically It's like that is a crime for certain Compared to what bucky did it's like dude. She should get a pardon By the way, this is the thing when chat pointed out he can pardon Sharon, but he can't get alone He has weird powers you've got And yeah, for reference if anybody's like, well, bucky was brainwashed Bucky when non brainwashed beat the shit out of many german police. He's in way more trouble than Sharon is And yet he got pardoned. So she absolutely would get by the way cap same thing It's absolute bullshit. It makes no sense. Fuck you bad show naughty Naughty show naughty and so uh, Sharon's like right guys. He's in this thing He's got a lab down here the guy who makes the serum We've kind of been over the wheel building with what he explains here I'm gonna try and get through this a little quick There is the we'll do the the downstairs story and then the upstairs story. Okay, so downstairs They're like you made the serum and he's like, yeah, tell us about it He gives them a bit of information about um the key detail they get Is that he says he had a phone call from carly about Mama morgan dale mama megal fowl like the the woman who died That's the the information they actually needed. Uh, Sharon comes down after her big brawl Where she takes on like a bazillion people in a row and they all they all do the things they close the distance They're all weaker than her for no reason. It's fucking absurd. She somehow is able to kill all of them She overpowers much larger men her scrawny ass Look at this shot here, right? It's before her action scene has begun Um, but we know that like we're getting somewhere with this guy And so we've got to ratchet it up like we go you can't it comes to be this Does this not seem like a video game cut scene before you start the level Like this camera shot is this is the this is the area you can see there's a group of bad guys there Oh, there's group bad guys there. It's like that's the set. Yeah get ready to fight these. Oh look and there's a close-up shot They have these guns Some of them have different guns. It's just like yeah, this whole part is a very bad video game. Yeah. Yeah It's like an arms party or something, you know, they're all in and a cup to black It's from madre for basically she says they're all bounty hunters. They're all there for the bounty Man, it'd be funny if you guys turned around and watched it back instead of all looking in the same direction Uh, don't you guys find it interesting that so there is a bounty that went out for the killers of selby It's like, okay. Where are they? It's like we have no fucking clue where they are Yeah, how would they know that they're there and also Sharon you're fine could you had nothing to do with it? I don't know that you're involved. Well, she wants to protect these guys She wants to kill them all to protect protect them from what the bounty hunters And how come how come when uh, when she kills them, they don't play ominous music and Dude, so this is how it works Okay, you know, she stabbed somebody in the ass at one point if she pulled Well, she does pull the knife out throw it at someone else But if you would freeze frame, there'll be no blood on it because she's a good guy Yeah, also, what if that first guy had aids exactly Exactly um So yeah, she this guy has a knife to he just doesn't he just doesn't have a gun Yeah, this is the one that she looked completely overpowers Whatever Sharon's incredible in this scene and um to be honest with you, right if it went for the shitty choreography I would be talking about how the amount of fucking effort she just put into all of this is insane And it really doesn't make sense because We go on to find out She really wants that serum like to exist to the point where she's she what she hates carly for having stolen it And um Why is it then so she was up there and they're down there these people are down here to fuck with this guy Like why would she want this? He's the most important person in the world to her right now Uh-oh, why doesn't she just kill all of them anyway? Why is she no idea? I I guess because you could say her ultimate goal is to earn that pardon so that she can get access to information from inside of Shield, I feel like if you're the power broker that's just Well So this is the thing right let's pretend for a second you're the power broker and you have one goal Which is to satisfy sam's request to earn the pardon to get back into shield to get access to information That can be useful as your role as the power broker. You're like, okay Simultaneously, you do not want this guy to come to any harm because he's the most important person in your operation What do you do because sam wants to find him? You're like, okay, well Sam just wants information. Let's find out what it is. It's like sam wants to know where carly is Like, oh, well, this guy, what do you know about carly? I just talked to him as the power broker and you'd be like, well, she wanted this she wanted this She went here. She does this Like, okay Put that in a file And I will get it for sam and be like this is all I could pull from everything in madrapur related to You know carly's visits here and her operations here and you know, basically just a file She creates at her will that has all the information she wants to have in it It's like if this is helpful, which I hope it is which it will be because this is how it works out Um, she'll get that pardon, but the thing is You should get the pardon anyway So it's really weird this whole thing is and she loses everything she loses him the lab all of his data It's like it's all gone. So no more super serum and I start to wonder if Like I guess I have to watch it again. Does she care about that? Oh, no She gets into the car at the end of this episode and she's got like a an assistant and she's like Very bad things have happened. I'm going to explain on the way. It's like so she is upset that she's lost all of this Surely But she kind of seemed to orchestrate it. So she's just a dumb ass, I think But now we can talk about the one thing I liked the one thing all of us probably like Zemo executes the serum maker As he would as he would And he used his position to benefit his own goals However He moves around the room and finds a pistol attached under a desk Was that just luck? And and Stam and bucky weren't watching him. They weren't watching him closely And they allowed him to get a gun so that he could shoot them This is the things he's like You'd imagine they'd be watching him closely the entire time because they just expect He'd do something like this and it's like this is on you guys. You you weren't paying attention Because I I don't know if it was luck or not The only thing I could possibly explain is that he's in the in kahoots with the power broker But that wouldn't make sense because she doesn't want the power power broker wouldn't want him dead Yeah, I I don't get why you know the gun I think it is just uh I well that it's it's so in line with the rest of the writing Which is oh zemo has a gun now Like oh, okay I guess he just has a gun now I'm trying to wait for the part where he does it because I he's looking around right now And I'm just waiting for it because he puts his hand under the desk and he just happens to find one It's like damn that's gonna be useful when this is the thing It's so interesting to categorize it differently as plot versus character Because it's like if you provide zemo a gun in this scene out of nowhere, you just literally poof it into his hands Then yeah, he would shoot that guy. So that's good. I'd say that's I'd say that's plot Yeah, because if zemo just was looking around for one maybe under a table or something like that Seeing as like they're a hidden gun somewhere in here in this lab. Maybe there would be um Then he found one. He's like, yeah, that's what he'd do. So that's what I'm saying That's what I mean about how it's so interesting to see the difference, right? Because like there is no character problem here at all. It's literally just if you had The circuit like if you literally poofed it into existence He sees this magical spell appear and the gun falls into his hand. He'd just be like, okay I'm gonna use this to kill that guy. Like it's like, I don't know why this happened But I mean it gives me a chance to do the thing but yeah, um I maybe would have appreciated him looking all around the place instead of the first desk He looked into and put his hand on he finds a gun just like all right if you have to Um, I think they're probably just, you know, if we were trying to write this I think I would just have him find something in the lab Like um to kill this guy with I think like I think I'll pull or Smash a beaker and just drive it into his neck. That's probably something that We'll do some down. Yeah, I think I feel like he'd find a way Zemo. Uh, he'll get his hands dirty He did with that one hydro guy at the beginning of a civil war Then again, it depends on if the show thinks he's a good guy for doing it Whether or not we'll see a blood spurt or not So, uh, what's pretty funny is Sharon kills a whole bunch of people and then she like decides It's like well, it's time for me to go and tell them that they're in trouble As she does that and closes the door someone fires an rpg at the area and it's like Man, oh There's a lot of questions for that one. It's like first of all maybe open with it. Secondly, wait if you blow them up I I assume that you can prove they're your bounty still. I guess you I mean, yeah, there will be parts left. Um But if you if you're willing to fire one I think maybe they'll be willing to fire another one, you know I don't know and if they did fire another one, they don't be fucking dead Uh, I don't know if you guys remember but basically Zemo gets up first out of all of them Including the fucking winter soldier And uh, he leaves and I honestly thought this would be when he was going to ditch them because he's killed the serum maker And so now he's made use of them. Yeah, what's yeah, the uh Much more reason to leave now the whole place is on fire And uh, it's about to explode because there's those are tanks in here and assorted Chemistry shit, I guess and it's just funny to be that the rpg didn't immediately blow up the whole place It's like that I was lucky Delayed result of the explosion and it blows the fuck out of it. But uh, yeah, they all managed to get out safe Not sure how Then comes that action scene where they're like lol, it's an action scene you go left. No Like you go right. Oh Well, they're like nearly fine. Again, if there was another rpg thrown at them, they'd be doing they'd just be dead kind of a Change the stakes And then Zemo puts on his mask to kill people and then takes it back off Fan service The only defense I've seen of this I don't know you guys are gonna make of it Is the the reason he does that is because whenever he does work like that He wants to be wearing that mask and seeing it there and then shows us that this is something He's been doing for a while and that this is not new and that he probably has a persona Where he does stuff like this and that mask is a part of it The way of establishing history. It's just like Um Just seems really dumb It does seem really dumb It's just why why put on a mask? It's just it's there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason Well There was one thing I thought of it's like he puts it on and then he blows up the thing and fire goes everywhere It's like, ah, so the one thing you might want to protect yourself with babies your eyes Unless the one part of his mask doesn't protect So never mind um Yeah, he kills the bounty hunters and then he teams back up without a lads And there's this bit where I start to wonder what the fuck the tone of this show is where They all get into a car his car by the way that he It's he had a car that was available The door was open and the keys were in it and he just drives out of one of these shipment containers with it. It's like Okay Right that I did you set this up before I don't know But yeah, he's like getting everybody and I was just like really this is such a like nonsense cartoon now And then um, they're like you just killed someone he goes promise. I won't do it again. I'm like, all right It's like what the fuck is happening I don't know Calls itself a tv show Yeah, it's it's really just a we want things to happen on a screen so There you go Look everything that needed to happen happened to have the thing. You're a Let me have uh walker and lamar have followed our our heroes to the prison And they're like dams emo escaped the same day that bucky and sam came to speak to him And I think lamar's like you think they broke him out, right? He's like, of course they broke him out I was just like, uh, thank you walker We need it's like some kind of brain um And so I mean really weird happens that kind of allows the rest of this season to work in terms of a couple of its payoffs walker then says for some reason looks like we're gonna have to go off the books because they're gonna chase demo and falcon and bucky On there they're they're assumed adventure to try and get to carly because they think those lot have a better Thing and so like time to go off the books. It's like, why would you go off the books? That's like that's like on the books. That's the fully on the books. That's like the the mission Yeah, I Like I said, I I said a long time ago, but the the state of What what people's missions are who they're allowed to who who is It's even confusing to sort of explain like why they are where they are and what permission they have and who they're sanctioned by And what support levels they should be having it's all very in the air and thrown out and the the u.s. Government doesn't seem to exist for most of the show and it should and it should be looking for these guys and Picture for a moment if you will you are their boss rags. You're like, hey you The captain america and battle stuff. I need you guys to get to college. Stop it. The flag smash is a bunch of bad Ombres gotta get rid of them. Yeah, they're back. They're elas virus and they killed people slam the table with your hand You're like enough of you. You're not you're dealing with them. You got to deal with them Like, okay And so they're like we went to all these places and we found all these safe houses nothing in them You're like, dammit guys. We've got to deal with them. What else you got? You know, well went to a prison. You remember that zemo guy? Like, yeah, of course. I know zemo everyone knows zemo because he was like super famous for everything that he did It's like, yeah, yeah, he broke out Oh, shit. Really? It's like, yeah, but the interesting thing is like a few hours before Bucky and falcon who are on the same kind of mission as us broke him out We think he broke him. They broke him out because he'll have information to do with carly and the flag smashes And then rags you're like you slam the table and you're like you guys gotta fucking gotta get on that Shit first of all to get zemo back because holy fuck. He shouldn't be free. Secondly to imprison Uh, bucky and falcon those fuckers Releasing him what the hell and thirdly if they do have a lead on carly. Thanks to zemo go and get it We gotta get these flags met instead walkers like now the government don't want us to do this We've got to go off the books What no I don't understand. Why would they want you to do this? By the way, this is all because we're trying to set up uh walker getting fired in the next episode Is walker even allowed to go off the books? I don't know how that would make sense. He has to travel from Germany to Latvia You're not doing that without government assistance Well, I'm just saying doesn't somebody call and say hey, buddy. What's up? How you doing today? What are you? What are you being up to captain america again? It wouldn't even be a random call They would set up Transport and then they'd be like why are you going to Latvia and they'd be like oh vacation Hmm And again, I just don't understand why this is the biggest lead they've ever had a different crime has been committed And two of america's heroes like doing something really shady that to me sounds like the thing the glc want them to look into But uh, he's got to be off the book so that when he kills the terrorist man It's seen as a horribly bad thing that he did without the glc's permission, you know Which still doesn't actually work as an argument, but we're almost there. Well, I see Uh Then the flag smash has been a bunch of innocent people to death Yep, hooray Because they had one world one people am I right one world's one people's charred ones here and there too So do they burn them and kill them because they have supplies or would they have burned and killed them anyway? I think the point is that they're unfortunate in that they got burned But it's part of making the message clear that they're serious like we will kill people That's how important we consider this I think she said they weren't innocent As well, but she's insane so I don't trust her Yeah, so they're not innocent by the death is the only language these people understand Yes, as if to say She's such a moron if if I was on her team and I was like wait you want them You want them to understand that we're for real by killing people. She's like, yeah I'd be like it's kind it's gonna do stuff It's gonna make us look really really bad if we had public support which apparently we do somehow I feel like we're gonna start losing it if they find out we burn people to death for no reason Also, it's very strange that all her minions and acolytes get kind of Cold feet towards the end, but not earlier when they've already killed people Well, they could keep going so that we we uh someone I picked up when I was rewatching I was talking to some rags about it They keep giving her looks throughout the season just looks and I think it's the show's way of being like We do think what she's doing is evil viewers. We do Unfortunately these aren't characters So there's no story for them. They give her looks and then they get exploded Like as in at the very end they're like, oh, maybe this too far now They don't even don't really they she's like one world. They'll go they look around. They're like one world They go, uh, what people what what people what people and then they carry on doing all the evil Try the whole thing when John Walker you get Chad is saving the the truck full of people They all jump on him to try and stop him. Oh god. Yes Yeah, but so I guess they're okay with killing people It's weird. You're expecting that payoff where they sort of turn on her Yeah, and they're the they're the much more sympathetic terrorist types Um, yes, but and that would be perfect when she's like she's attacking Walker As he's trying to pull the van up and they go to help and then they stop and then they pull her away That would be the payoff. Yeah, um, but they don't like I said They do not have characters and I think their distrust of her was dropped in later because they realized they needed to condemn her a bit more And from what I gathered there's a couple of people have been talking about this I've seen it in chat Apparently there's there's an idea that a possible original plot line was that they were way more evil at first and that the whole vaccination thing Wasn't just to solve some pandemic that was happening. This is someone I've come if I've spoken this other than with free You know I'm fucking losing my my memory a little bit, but uh, basically that there's a thought that um The resources are always vaccines and that what happened post blip was there was a new virus that was spreading around and part of Why they dropped this original plot line, which you can technically see remnants of if this is true Is that it's too close to home. You can't be having a pandemic fucking storyline Where a bunch of people are stealing vaccines to give to those who they think deserve it when we've got all this shit going on Bad timing Um, but another theory that's been going around with a couple people is that they actually Are trying to propagate The virus to kill as many people as possible to get back to the blip numbers Which by the way, if that was the original plot line, they are fucked for sympathy. Nobody is going to feel anything That would be yeah, that's monstrous Also, they would have to cut that can you imagine like oh our story is about people who want the virus to spread and kill everyone You're like that's a little awkward to bring out right now like maybe maybe next year. I don't know Having Sam having the same level of sympathy for her while she's trying to spread her virus to really hurt people She's just a kid, Sam. She's just a kid Yeah, and so if that were happening, you know, that'll be so maybe they cut those things for those reasons And then I like to believe like oh, yeah, maybe they shoved in just sometimes where like she says something horrible We'll have her friends go But then they never act on it because they're not people they just uh little pawns that do stuff. Yeah, I feel like there was a Even It's like everything else it's like they they have acid and they're confused about they what they want to do Uh The uh the explosion by the way where she burns all those people and that had australian Cohort the one the one that gets the most screen time as a as a lackey who by the way Still just makes no decisions for himself throughout the entire season. He just he just looks sad um When she blows up she doesn't warn him that this is gonna happen She says put on your seat belt and he's like yeah, okay She goes put on your seat belt like like oh shit and the car Because he's like are you not taking your own car and she's like no She's got explosives in her car And it blows up and it rocks their car Okay, carly like I'm gonna I'm gonna allow it for a moment that you killed a bunch of people for no reason at all Why are you so incompetent? Why would you visible? If you want him to not know you time it for way later and you get the fuck out of there and then you have it explode You don't explode it while you guys are outside while also not telling him it's gonna happen There's no way that she can hide it because the news later on Oh, no, I don't mean What I mean is like it logistically if you want it to be the you know He needs to not know long enough that he can't stop it is what I meant, right? That might be a word What you do it you just have it blow up fucking an hour from now Whatever half an hour 10 minutes just enough to get out, but she has it on like 10 seconds She's like yeah, go to the car. Yeah. Yeah, you see but I'll go She's like oh That would have been really bad if we'd been a little longer there and he's just like oh my god. You killed everyone She's like, oh, yeah, that too. I guess I guess. Yeah, it's happened. It's fine. They need this they're sending a message Carly Morgan thought might be the worst mcu villain outside of The guy from captain marvel. He was pretty fucking stupid Just writing wise I way prefer ben mandelson In fucking a million years Does he even count as a villain now or would it be due to law? So if we would count if you can choose not to count him if you don't want you but if you did He's it's significantly, you know, like the whole like he destroys his own civilization and nearly destroys his own family because he's Incompetent buffoon like it has no idea what he's doing. I do like though that they have it's like Oh, there's only like 10 scrolls left. Also, they invaded the world That's trying to know he didn't know that they're an evil group of them that they didn't know What about an eye man too? Carly's surely worse than just in hammer or whiplash For sure See carly's carly's really bad I could almost forgive the movie for if she was more or less unchanged But I hate how much falcon simps for her. Yeah If it was just like no york if the if the show was clearly aware of how fucking crazy and stupid she was I wouldn't mind Someone that like ideologically possessed and stupid, you know, I could believe it to a degree It's still bad and she does a lot of stupid things don't get me wrong But the fact that the show is sympathetic to her makes it so much worse Where did you get that from? When does when do they have it? No Um And so the episode closes out with The Wakandans are leaving their fucking magic balls on the floor and on random bits of thing for Winter soldier pick up fucking freaky said that they were those and I was like no, they're not they wouldn't be that That'd be stupid. They wouldn't do that. But those things are like super technology. They're really important with Basilians They wouldn't just drop them randomly on the fucking floor and hope that he picks them up and realizes that he has to Go down a particular street. But no, that's how they that's what they do the show Like it can't take one second without being like, hey, here's something really stupid. You ready? Why do you gotta be stupid again? uh So, yeah, they they meet up with bucky and they basically say like you freed zemo asshole And then the episode ends. Oh It was so exciting But Yeah And that brings us to the halfway point it only took us six hours In finnish we've covered a lot of topics more so than just We discussed the differences between wizards and warlocks, so we got that sorted out Now we're up to the fucking worst episode Yeah, so Yeah episode four was the one where we were we were actually like at a wits end in terms of the portrayals and the cause and effect Yeah, because Anyone who's listening you've seen how horribly written all of this is and you sort of just go with the flow when you get to that point It's like, well, I guess I'll just see what story they're telling And that's what they in episode four. They make it clear what story they're telling is very fucking annoying It's still just as poorly written But now you're actually like everything's becoming much clearer because we're already very worried about walker and this is the episode that Rips into walker hardcore Yep, it was gonna happen eventually So we open with the Wakanda scene for bucky. What's everybody's thoughts? Wow, someone else can go ahead I feel like this is supposed to be the payoff of a much more developed and earned Show like this should this is a huge payoff for him and they just sort of squeeze it in real quick To get those sympathy points to get that payoff point without actually earning it without doing anything to get it in concept It's nice But it just sort of happens and then it's over and it happens in the middle of the show as a Flashback and you're like, oh All right. Well, that's gone now. You can't do that again. That that that opportunity has been spent Yes, one thing though is like how does bucky understand the words when she's speaking. Is she speaking her own language? I assume that's uh, that's russian. Yeah, she's I think she's okay. Okay. Yeah Okay, this one And i'm and how is speaking the words back to him make him not Turn well, so the magic choir First thing I want to mention was like have we got a way for her to know what those were the words Did he tell her the words? She wouldn't need the book right or yeah, I guess he told her I think that's written down Well, what happened to the book at the end of civil war? I guess seema would have had it and then Black panther got it wouldn't have gotten it. Maybe it took a condense. Well black panther took him, right? So he might have had the book. No, maybe yeah, maybe black panther took the book So what looted it um, you know in a you know in a sense if you need to deprogram him that book might be useful Um, maybe yeah, maybe there's something in there for yeah, that that can kind of line up Um, so the thing that I want to echo what rag said, right? So if we're dealing with a bucky storyline and we already have if we're writing the season It's like so has he been deprogrammed already or not? I'd be like, I don't I think we want to build That's going to be one of the most significant things that could ever happen to him freeing him from the winter soldiers like definitive hold like that is That's some that's a huge payoff. That has to be treated with a huge amount of respect That's going to be something we have to build to for a while And um, if we were trying to Like toy with this as little as possible Maybe you want to tell it as a Freak sequence of flashbacks. That's at least going to be a minor improvement over what you're seeing, right? So like maybe you combine them with the nightmares in terms of just um Failures times where they've tried this and his mind is like pulling back and forth And they have like a sort of approach where they're like they give us a brief idea of how they're going to do it because Kind of frustrating to me That we're shown She starts saying the words and he's fearful that he's he's going to lose control meaning that they've never done this before This must be the first time Because he has to ask you like, you know, what are you going to do if I start killing people? She's like, oh, you know, I won't let you Meaning this is the first time Well Apparently she does because she's well, I guess she would write because wait. No, sorry. I fuck It is still a problem because bucky thinks that bucky shouldn't think that he knows That's what i'm saying bucky knows how it works and she should know how it works because he would have told her She would be in control. So why is he even afraid? Yeah, because all she would she would have to do is just be like, yeah, chill out winter soldier. Don't kill anyone Ah the show you think it's one thing and then you're like, oh wait. No, it's another That's what I mean, uh So it's it's frustrating because um You have to invent all of it yourself if you had like a big timeline A lot of writers are like, I want this payoff. So we're going to make all of these uh It's that it's that thing you were saying before right from john where he's like the the car with all the explosives You're going to want to build this one up. It's a huge moment Instead they just showed the moment out of context and I just have questions that I was like, how did this work? How did you even set this up? This is the first time and you guys are unaware of how the control even works Why would staring into a fire while she reads the words make it not work anymore? How does this happen? What is happening? And then it's like no the scene's incredible and I think there's gotta be people in chat right now who are like Are you fucking serious? You're criticizing this scene. It's like the best scene. It's like guys It's only sebastian stands acting that is it in that scene. Yeah, he's doing a great job I would honestly think it's phenomenal the uh, I believe him when you watch him. It's fucking great But that's it But that's yeah, that's all we get it's not set up. It's not earned This is a huge payoff that we just skip to but that's all that's all it takes for a lot of people You just skip to the payoff and that there that's it done a movie called the white wolf or something Where he oh, yeah the ending is just seen could you imagine? That's and that would be so cool. Talk about being Talk about being unconventional, right? Like there's barely any action in it It's just a character study that he's just dealing with his ptsd And it's like that's the kind of shit that the mcu could actually do to experiment Fucking high top describes this and what the vision is like really experimental. I'm like, what do you mean? This is like top tier sludge Fucking vision versus vision It's sludge pure sludge. This is sludge. This is marvel sludge This is an experiment at all with no action in it. Yeah, it is just about Uh, bucky living in Wakanda maybe getting to know some of the inhabitants. Maybe he like befriends um Like a a young kid who like shows him how to sort of almost You know taking the world again and um and you know, you just do your standard old grizzled angry man Goes on an adventure with a kid and rediscovers his humanity Yeah, and you could have a Wakandan veteran who can talk to him about all the wars he was involved with and Plenty to work with there having work on a farm. You know, yeah farm and stuff Also a series is exactly the place to explore a lot of stuff Yep, but they they still even though it's a tv show They still feel like they have to put in an action scene every 20 minutes Well, it's the same. I think I wonder if it's because mando was such a success and mando's format is There was a big action scene every episode because if there's not people won't there's always two. Yeah, too Which is funny because you had a show like dead ever Which was successful in this format that had episodes where there was no action at all It's like, yeah, because it's a fucking tv show. It's not a movie By the way, the whole two action scenes thing is not more prominent than in episode four because the two action scenes themselves could have Just been one That everybody has a big fight, you know the flag smashes zemo our heroes Walker and luma everyone's this is a big fight Kind of ends it peters out in the first fight and then the second fight It's like it restarts and then we get the big payoff because it's like, yeah We can't have a big payoff right at the beginning. You know wait, so we'll just have a fight Um Yeah, we'll I guess we'll deal with that and it's like but uh, so yeah that scene It's just everybody talks about how like I've seen people say it's like it's easily the best Winter soldiers scene and it's one of the best seeds of the MCU and I'm just like you guys Your metrics are just shit. I'm sorry. It's so easy to manipulate. You're so easy to manipulate Nothing behind it. They stole this from other movies as far as I'm concerned. They didn't earn this They're just like it's out of payoff now bitches They stole a lot of the winter soldiers arc if you can call it that from other movies Like there's a lot of jason born in here. There's a lot of other characters too Like it's just kind of a patchwork of references from better movies. It's mainly just the payoffs. It's not the journey And it's all about the journey. That's the most important part God's hand like yeah, it's it and as people are pointing out, where did you learn how to farm on a farm? And yeah, so uh, we flash forward then because that's done Like literally that's done. That's it now. Good job. You've gotten your uh, your winter soldier content It's just like you'll that's it like the because the end of this is more bucky content like in episode Yeah, okay, cool. Um, she says You know, it's so badly done because in uh episode three when they break out zemo Do you remember falcon has this really the dialogue throughout this season is fucking dreadful falcon's like hey You probably shouldn't break out zemo because if you remember I guess you forgot but zemo killed the Wakandan king He also blew up the un. He kind of like destroyed the avengers team. Do you remember? It's like I hate you That's barely an exaggeration to the the dialogue is It's like that throughout the season because they don't know how to write and then she says to bucky Uh, by the way zemo killed the king the king that chose me to be in like the button. It's like, I know Both of you know and then he's like uh because bucky's a moron He's like, oh we kind of need him for this thing that we're doing and she's like, okay eight hours Wait, what do you mean eight? How did you figure that out? What made you say eight hours also? No, germany gets him back Yeah, there's so much wrong with it. First of all bucky tell her what exactly is going on You're trying to stop the world from being destroyed by crazy terrorists with super serum and he knows how Okay, that's step one step two Uh, he's going back to german germany's prison. I don't know what you guys want and then if they went Oh, well, we kind of want that actually in fact, we're gonna take him back to the raft I think you just be like wait why the wrap Why why do they care which prison it is exactly like what does it matter? What prison is do they just want him in prison period because it's like, yeah They're gonna bring him back probably if everything went right. It's very strange. She's like, oh, okay. That's what you Fine and then if you could just be like, yeah, so um Can you guys maybe help us then like work with us against these flags? You guys can nail it like you can rip him to shreds and then you can take zemo because the job will be done In fact, we know where carly is like soon. It's just yeah, just give like no eight hours Oh, well the plot would be too confused to decide who wins between carly and the the Wakanda lady the the plot wouldn't know what would Who's allowed to win this have you seen the video where a guy drops a um a bit of bread with Like jelly on or whatever and it it slaps the ground with jelly and then he drops a cat And it flips and lands legs first right because those things always happen. So he sellotapes them back to back And then drops it and it just spins in mid air that the whole world explodes because it's like you can't I feel like that would happen if they go to shoot each other the bullets just They they stand like they they do like the matrix They just stay in the middle that they start to shake and that everything shakes and then the whole world just cracks into it It's like, oh no, like who's supposed to win out of you two. I don't know Problems that these writers wouldn't be able to deal with you know Anyway, um I guess they had like they were monitoring zemo at all times and the second he released They were like wow, fuck and then they knew where bucky was and knew that he got him out like Timeline wise like wow you guys got here real quick I don't even know how you knew where they were because they traveled from Germany to Latvia. So like I guess they knew that and you know I just thought I'd mention it. I don't like they just drop in and yeah eight hours Very arbitrary The buggy doesn't make a case for themselves at all Yeah, it's like but what if it takes us more than eight hours to go to do this stuff because like This is a big deal. We we need to succeed They'd be really bad if we don't win this. Why are you only giving us eight hours? Why are you not giving us the time that we need? Yes, like you're giving us eight because you hope that we can get what we need to get done done and then you can take Zemo it's like why not nine? Why not 10? Why not 12? Why not 24? Why? like well We figure eight is the amount that'll be most dramatic Fair enough Yeah, and I can't it's after this scene. It's not this one yet. Uh, I I can't remember if they have like a Zemo is just talking about how it's there's not gonna be much point in trying to reason with Kali. She's like a Doomed individual because that's what serum does. I think he talks about how serum just makes people have more power And thus the like power corrupts a standard sort of argument And then they say uh, what about steve and he says touche and basically says but there's only one steve Like implication being that it's very very rare for the serum to uh Not result in people going crazy. He said you wouldn't want to wield with red skulls, would you? Um, and I know that some people are frustrated by this. They're like, well, wait, that's an exception Why isn't Zemo acknowledging the exception? It's like well when I was listening to him I kind of took it as him saying like, oh, okay. Yeah, it's not 100 but it's like 99 Which is still pretty bad And it's not certainly not with the risk you guys do well. Look at what happened with the avengers in sycovia. Yeah still Um And then the radio announces that because of the burned people they are now going to do the patch act Which is to reinstate borders meaning You guys are fucking idiots and you shouldn't have burned everybody to death It's also didn't take six months to decide how to let's reinstitute borders. Um, maybe there's Wait, like I said, they're deliberately vague so we can do a little bit of infuring here Maybe it simply means like we're gonna start cracking down the borders. We're always still there But you guys playing around with them. We're gonna come for you now We're gonna make sure these borders are actually up and mean something Maybe that's your robotting a lot for me mauler. Um, oh Say something Hello You're not a robot for me Okay, that's weird You sound like how capital looks Oh You know from a distance for some reason it looked like some bearded man from antiquity with a weird hat Kind of like swigging us. Yeah Yeah, I see what's here. Can you see that? It's like that. It's like that. Uh, painting of the woman with the headscarf I don't talk about I don't not familiar with that one, but it definitely looks like a painting from here Yeah Um What are we talking about? Yeah, she's an idiot and the so the patch act is coming and that's very sad for them because they fucking hate it And obviously that drives the finale action stuff. I just find it amusing that this show doesn't Doesn't really know what it's doing with carly because it's like got a sad message It's like carly. It directly led to things we don't want. She's like, well There we are then We need to kill more people. I just want someone to find me like carly. Do you just like killing people? Is that what this is? You just You seem a little into it gonna say gonna be honest with you Um, yeah, so she's very upset obviously and so they go, uh This next plot line, right? So it's leading them to this area that that mama Person is supposed to have been at And there's a scene do you remember watching this guys and they and falcon walks in he's like, hey Can anyone help me find mama mama donya? Is it? Um, yeah, and they all just immediately leave the room and he sees uh The logos of the literal terrorist logo is on everything and he's like, hmm. This is strange He's like, excuse me. Hello anybody and they keep avoiding him. It's like falcon. They know who you are Go away black man So what's funny is uh as we've been going through this There's selective awareness of who he is from every location on earth Some people have no idea who he is Some people know exactly who he is and it will be dependent or whatever they need at the plot line at the time It's really funny. Um, yeah In this case, they need all of these people to know exactly who he is and uh, it's made clear where this guy goes like, um He says something like I know you I know you help people But he says something like when people promise to help I know what it leads to nothing Which is a really stupid thing to fucking say And um, what did carly do? Did she not promise to help? So this is we we did a bit on um The flag smashers already, but this is just sort of a bonus set So this guy says the giasi promised this like house this group of people to bring um additional teachers And like assorted resources that was six months ago. He says it like you know, they failed us Six months ago was the blip uh the return of the blip people so You're telling me that the giasi would have been formed that like fucking day and been like, okay We're gonna try and help people you guys specifically were to get you teachers. It's like I'm starting to not trust this guy I think What happened was the giasi was formed and they were like we're gonna help the world as best we can and Provide what we can where we can and he read into it as I just have specific things for this building and I didn't get them It's been six months In which we need a representative from the giasi to be like Okay, we haven't sent you stuff yet Because you're alive. We're fucking working on it cold water hot food shelter. You're able to run a school Like yeah, I don't even really know What do you want you're doing okay? Okay, dude you're doing pretty good compared to the people in this world who are dying right now You're a selfish prick and you're talking about how you deserve all this shit You know like oh, you know what when you ask for help you don't get it This is like, uh, there are people who need more help than you do. I'm sorry and the giasi is global apparently They are desperately trying to help it This show does not convince me the flag smashes have a brain cell like ever I just I wonder I want someone to talk to them about this. I feel like what did what did they promise when and why like did you call them personally? You know like we need some teachers and the giasi will like yeah, but we'll try we'll get on it We will help you as best we can and then he's like six months. Did it bring us a teacher? More than half the world's population just like snapped back into existence after five years All right, we're we're running low on resources. We're doing the best we can Why does no one ever say that in this movie? I don't know and so it's weird. Yeah, it's these simple explanations that they just flat out do not say It's bad enough as that But then you think about how they are abating and abetting and supporting the fucking flag smashes What the hell I'm cool with you burning people alive because I didn't get that teacher. They promised me. It's like, fuck you, man What the hell is wrong with you? I just have running water roof over their fucking head a place to sleep Now your terrorists and your kids will be dumb so It is Because we just don't like your fucking face And then you because you get it at the end of the film the the the story the giasi people are like Yeah, how do we solve these really complicated problems though and valgus like do better This You have to think about that with all of these little instances throughout the season These guys are like, oh, we need that teacher falcon. You know, can you help and he's like, yeah You know what? I'm gonna go to the giasi you need to help them like okay So we don't have a fucking teacher vending machine So if you want to go over there Teach them shit yourself go right ahead And then some other guy in the room is like, oh, I'm a teacher It's like, okay, so actually if we do have a spare teacher We're probably gonna send them to the places that have zero Seems like you guys are already teaching you kids stuff. So that's great And oh if you were the head of the giasi you'd fucking quit you're like I have had enough of being told that I am terrible at this when I'm trying to help as many people as best I got collie go right ahead and she's like, okay, so Everybody gets everything That's that's my rule. We did it. I want to make I I wish this was the dc universe that I could just wish for all the things that I wanted. Yeah What a pity So, uh as if that wasn't frustrating enough right the scene ends with zemo getting the information He needs because he has a brain while our two protagonists Falcon talks to that guy right who says like, oh, we need to help. We did get he he turns back up to fucking bucky and says Yeah, this place is a dead end Oh, well, uh, so you're an idiot. Like you're just insanely stupid. They're both the problem here Oh, it's so stupid. This is the place the flag smashes hang out. He talks to one person who says Yeah, I don't I don't I don't really like you I don't really trust people who try to help people because that always leads to nothing That's like his logic because he's a fucking idiot and you're just like, okay. Bye He's like yep dead end you know No, but luckily zemo is here And he like does something that I kind of think is is kind of neat Like trying to gain trust with the kids by giving them some candy and then saying hey I'm a friend of the girl who died and I really like to know where a funeral is so I can pay respects and they're like Oh, yeah, okay. It's it's here and he's like sweet Like yeah, okay. That's that's a good zemo moment. Don't blink It would be nice if our main characters weren't too stupid to overlook that possibility, but it's fine. Someone did it. It's all right Dylan was competent and it's like our heroes though. It's like they were so stupid and they thought it was a dead end It's like great And Turkish delight is great. So yeah Oh, and I think it was nice enough that he said it was my son's favorite just stuff like that here in there To tell us that it's still on his mind what happened to his family. I appreciate that as well Uh But I want us to remember because we will come back to it that he tells the children not to trust falcon and winter soldier He's explicit. He's like do not trust these men. Like yeah, okay I'll be relevant in a minute. We got something more frustrating to talk about they get back home Falcon has a sit down and says, you know what? Carly has a point And then winter soldier is like Dude, even if she does look at what she's doing That I don't I cover for the conversation like ends in a satisfying way if it kind of just trails off But like this was when we were like, oh falcon's done though. He's out. He's not a person anymore You don't hear about how they fucking blew up everybody Um, and all the other shit that they're doing and then of course like like I said any Rational human being when he said that giosi promised us xyz six months ago. Why wouldn't you be like? Dude, I don't think anybody was really getting anything six months ago That's when everyone blipped in they would have been chaos Like I don't think it was insane. It was nuts Like I'm sorry that they weren't able to do what they promised clearly something happened Yeah, and they're doing the best they can and Like what what do you want them to actually do though? Like who should not Who should who should not get the supplies so that you can? That's that's the conversation I want to see happen. It's like, hey, you know if you got that teacher Someone wouldn't have isn't that the fucking thing falcon says in the in the beginning He's like one group benefits the other like can you maybe think about someone other than because this is the thing Everybody believes in this fucking show that they are the bottom of the rung like that guy in the building does Sam's sister does Sam himself does like you do get it gets way worse than what you guys are in, right? Oh for sure You have no idea They just don't seem to be aware of that like I'm just picturing, you know Just a really like a third world country where a whole bunch of people ported in it on a village that's already starving It's just like oh god like What's gonna happen now? And then you know the GRC are desperately sending those people food and teachers to help them Over that this fucking guy in this place in Latvia is like you promised me a teacher six months ago I'm gonna support the flag smashers now lol. It's like wow Thanks Think we they think we should all be what do they even want do they want one big government or no government? I don't even know one big one. Is there a reason why I already speaks english here? Whatever I'm just sitting here thinking like Latvia. It's like oh, yeah, that's like in eastern europe Why they're speaking english because they're the door the english they need it Yeah, but they're not even doing it in the accent hey, they're supporting the flag smashers They're gonna need to know english because all them speaking accents required I'm maybe the actresses weren't good enough And why is carly british was that like important? I don't understand her history is very unclear she She was displaced and then she went to And then she was trained up in madropore in some way shape or form then she left madropore after getting the serum That's really all we know um So it becomes clear that zemo was told something by those kids and he tells them. Yeah, he knows about the funeral and You know, I don't thinking about I don't really have an issue with him telling them that because why wouldn't he right? They're gonna the flag smashes are there. He needs them to help him take him out probably um So, yeah, that's all fine At least for moving the plot along. Um, but this bit less so they want to know Uh, I think it's walker. They want to know They want they want sharon to keep tabs on walker Just phones it and asks for that as like a benefit Oh, he just needs this like I might be misremembering this because he she eventually uses the satellite to help him with walker But um, I think here he's looking for Something else the point is she's like, yeah, I have a satellite It's like oh, yeah You have a satellite you you have a satellite how'd that get up there? Did you the satellite did all the stage? Um, I think I might be later that she talks about how she has a fucking satellite I can't remember if this point. Oh, you know what? We'll just move past that one because I don't We're nearly seven hours and we're only at episode four. So I'm just gonna keep on moving. It's fine. She has a satellite Okay, shut up. So this scene happened and um, I remember I think better at least two or three people sent me a message Soon after this episode it aired because they were furious about this particular scene and I was just like, yeah, I can understand uh he says The the carly's Cohort in in the destructive shit they get up to when they get their serum from where the hiding place they had it in he says Two things the first one. I don't even know which one of these is more frustrating But we'll just go with this order It says his grandfather fought in world war two. He said if ever you feel scared doing something, it's probably because it's right Yeah, so like that's really horrible advice. I don't know what to say Any risk is the correct risk to take like you should always take risks because if you're scared you're doing it, right? It's like, oh, okay. That's a really yeah I get that like I guess the idea they're going for so doing the right thing is sometimes risky and I'm scared. They're not easy to do but like Anytime you're feeling scared like really it's bafflingly like narrow. It's like, whoa That's just what do you mean? You've accounted for somebody's don't often people get scared when they're doing the fucking wrong thing Why would your heart's racing when you're shoplifting? That means you're doing the right thing There you go If you're scared me to steal a come from a cop and yeah when I run into a store Yeah, when I run into a store and I grab something and run out really quick and keep running after the say hey Stop that dog get them and they call the dog catcher My heart's pounded. I just ah man. I can't get enough of it. Just the thrill You know, that's why I do it just the thrill of it. Well, that's why I would never live in majorport If there's no laws to break then I mean, yeah, it's boring, but that's no fun It's not against the law, you know, uh That's why I regularly set my house on fire. It's quite sort of engaging and terrifying It's scary and that's how you know, you're doing the right thing the right thing The other quote like I said, I don't know which one of these born fury. It was probably going to be this one he says You know Before I met you I didn't think there could be another captain america This ladies and gentlemen is after she has burned people to death They would just like The way that you burn those people to death I'm just imagining him being in that car with her after that happened like You'd be a great captain america The other people are roasting a lot. I even believe that even she would be like, all right, chill out I know that I'm not that great. You don't need to fucking condescend to me. He's like, no, I believe it. She's like, oh, that's even worse Yeah, and and she says in this scene something like um cap shield is a symbol Of all of the people who are left behind and that it should be destroyed The people who are left behind It's like it's a symbol of all the people that it's failed over the years or some shit like that Oh, so no shield and everyone gets failed then that's a great, you know, that's a good point carly You're you're brilliant. You should be a terrorist for a job. It is pretty frustrating Because that shield was quintessential in winning world war two in this universe. So fuck you No idea what you're talking about Also, I mean like she is the the villain at least nominally so like you can be like, oh well That's what the show thinks that the villain would say One thing I noticed though in watching the show all in one sitting when they do the previously on's they tend to show quotes That are more important for like theme than they do and like actually catching you up on what's happening Did you notice that too? We try to skip the previously's because we're getting annoyed by them I hate previously's because they tend to tell you what to care about and I'm like no, I care about Exactly But what what they do in this show is they show the previously on's for important lines about the themes and they showed that one a lot in the previously on's for the Future episodes like they think that's an important line And that makes me think like, huh, do you do you really think that does the show really think that the captain america shield represents Like everyone left behind by america, whatever that means. It's very bizarre. I don't get it Um, I would go as far as saying she's relatively unchallenged and the it's pretty consistent in this season that they consider the Shield to be symbolic of good and bad when it's literally got nothing bad attached to it It's only ever been used for good things. It's just yeah Frustrating it's like, yeah, but america though, you're like, okay What Perfect, that's the things it's like did cap ever say that the country was perfect and without Went against the country like what yeah In winter soldier and plenty of times he went against it when he saw corruption. It's just I hate what they do to steve what they like act like he was like It's just like this was not captain america though So annoying to listen to because you know, we've watched all of his life caps I mean it's like, you know that shield bad No, though So That scene ends thankfully But then we move on into this scene which is just baffling will building wise lamar and walker have caught up with zemo Falcon and bucky And so again, we've been over this they should just be immediately arrested I guess but because walker is off the books He doesn't have any control here of anything And they say yeah, we're gonna have to go and meet carly He's like, okay I guess we'll just take him out together. We'll arrest the boba again. This is all in a street We went over this just talking about this in front of everybody. It's kind of insane It's like that's literally the fucking the the tool of the grc The most important like political superhero is right there talking about how he's gonna knock out the flag smashes in this random street like Feels weird man. I don't know and they're yelling too. They're not even whispering Yeah, there's a whole bunch of people right there I feel like there's gonna be loads of people at lotfield. They'll be like you're all famous Like whoa, can you walk the camera out? Walker wouldn't be after America's suit. It's like that would probably They could have to seen in the room they were staying at it did not have to be outside Yep, I don't understand they wrote themselves into this problem I don't get it I mean it just keeps getting worse than what you think about it as well because Walker is like right then the plan will be to take it down by you know, some kind of pincer perimeter type movement It's like no walker. The first step is to call the government. You know where the flag smashes are call in your backup We can stop them here and now it's done But no None of that because he has to be off the books for this whole episode. I just it's just dumb as fuck Um, but maybe even if he was off the books. Why not just send an anonymous tip That too that fucking two rags that too um Okay, so plan three though if those are both off the table Uh, we'll figure out a perimeter and we'll attack like no I the moral center of the show falcon will speak to the villain because I have nice Uh, oh Yeah, oh and the great speak to her like what do you mean speak to her? I cannot stand that he thinks he's just gonna like change her mind like he'll talk to her like He'll fight The new captain america quicker than he'll fight the villain. It's insane. Yeah He's like, oh, she just I we got to talk to her. We got to you know, sympathize. We got to be empathetic It is I could change this person's mind this person who's blowing up buildings and his dead set on Some new world order is like I could I think I could change their mind in a conversation. Give me five minutes I bet I could do it. I think I'm that fucking charismatic Well, you see rags who's in va so She's waving a fucking soldier. It's actually a joke like I know that the creators of this show think that that was really clever I know I know Like they're like you see it's important that that comes into the story. It's relevant It's going to be mattering toward the bubble just like shut the fuck up any of these people here To talk to her it only requires a human being that's not on the table. You have to stop her. She is a monster If she gets away, she will kill again Like now it's fine though. You know, it's not fine And he's like I can talk it down. It's like, what do you propose will happen falcon? He's already burned people to death. She's got a she's like the leader of this organization There's loads of expectations. They got public support. You're just gonna talk her into giving up No, who won't I guess I guess they think because they talk zemo down at the end of the civil war They can do the same thing with this bitch The falcon is the guy who when side shirt bob says no that says the bot the is like convinced instead of diebot dying um It's it's a little bit too much for me To believe that any of the people involved in any of this would do any of this It's like it's just it's all cascaded. None of these people would make any of these decisions. He's um She's crazy and you know relating to um zemo getting his Talking down if you if you want to call it that he still completes his plan before Any of the talking is really Like done like with black panther at least and he goes to kill himself because he's completed his mission, right? um A little bit different. This is a funeral and and and like It's it's so uh cookie cutter. I think wasn't it rags you were like Oh, so falcon's gonna walk in and when they get real close to figuring anything out walker will walk in and then she'll be like Oh my god. Yeah, exactly. You betrayed me do it. Yeah, so obvious that that's what they were going to do Because we have to make him the bad guy. We have to make him Just act irrationally stupid for the scene so that it could play out the way the writers want it to And yeah, so she's given a really heartfelt speech about how sad it is that they Don't get everything they want falcon's like man, I heard that speech Good shit, and he very this is the thing about falcon. He's moron. He's like, uh, you know, I'm on my own It's like no, no, no you tell her that um Hey, I'm not on my own, but um We're not here to hurt you. We just want to talk, okay? We so that when they eventually come in because he's on a 10 minute timer He knows that that it shouldn't be a shock Um, I guess walker comes in like one minute early or something. I don't know he convinces uh Bucky by the way, Bucky. Yeah, he's like we should go and he's like, no, he he said 10 minutes Let's wait 10 minutes. We haven't heard like gunshots or screams for help or anything. He wanted 10 minutes Let's give him 10 minutes And he says to bucky that your partner might be in trouble and that convinces bucky It's a little bit weird. You would have thought wait bucky. You never thought about that Like that was I figured that someone you were talking to account that he might be hurt, but you're just gonna Never find and Yeah, they walk in and they destroy it all their conversation I can't remember if there's anything specifically to bring up here, especially to feel a little bit more expedient It's it's just frustrating to listen to and and there's that meme we brought up earlier We're like she she basically explains a lot of things that she values and wants to do And then um, she's like wait a minute. I was tricked into saying that I don't want to sound evil and falcon's like She's so bafflingly stupid like you tricked me with your words Yeah, and he's very He's very chill and casual about it. Yeah, everything's fine. It's like any that's how you feel and then you know walker ruins it all He walks in He's like enough terrorism and then She pushes falcon into walker And I think bucky like gets in the way of lamar And that's why she gets a head start Well, i'll get something in the bucket. I don't know. Um And she does a super jump bucky does a super jump. He's right behind it literally like two or three meters Um, then she jumps down a place he jumps down the place and I think I brought this up on some of the stream we were doing So weird like Bill making wise. Okay, so he's like right. He was right behind it He jumps down and these people look like they're gonna stop him And that would make some sense in terms of uh, how he loses it But they don't he gets passed them straight away But then he loses it It's because the place is like um, oh, it's not good enough. He's the winter soldier. He can't lose people like this. It's not possible It's yeah, they slightly inconvenienced him for like a second or two And he completely loses it. She was literally meters in front. He could use his ears you know and they enter this room Like from one side is bucky. The other side is falcon. So how many doors are they like 17? It's like, I don't know where she went it's like Guys it's pathetic And uh, they completely lose it Though it does set up a slightly more satisfying moment So maybe it's for the best, but then it's not like perfect So, you know, but she's running away like the coward that she is and um The one of the two heroes of this story catches her shoots her And it's very very satisfying. Everybody was happy. Everybody liked this when zemo shoots her Yes, we were so happy. Yeah, we're so fucking happy So close to finishing the job. It was like, well It's absurd that he shoots once and then just stops. It's like, no, no, no. Keep going. Keep please. Keep going. Please. Keep shooting Zemo you're evil. Please do more Yeah, um like he shoots a couple times once she's out of view so that he can't possibly hit her Which is like, yeah, and then she does this dive over a table And it really just he just can't deal with it. He's like, ah table. Fuck I hate tables Yeah, bullets don't go straight through wooden tables like their paper. Nah, definitely not Yeah, and you know, he shoots again and he's just like, what is this contraption Table But then he does the thing and yeah, the the action scenes and the choreography are so bad in this show It's so bad. Like no one thought this through Yeah, everybody's everybody in chess talking about how hard it is to deal with tables. Yes. It's not this is a thing Table's my worst enemy. So uh, then this moment of truth happens when uh, when we were watching this for the first time He picks up the serum. We were all like on the edge of our seat Like if he fucking injects that I'm going to be furious. Oh, we were so worried. Yeah, we were The tension in the proverbial air was just Oh, I was you could cut it with a knife. It was so thick how nervous we were Oh, because we know this show this fucking show just might do it Contrast them. Yeah contrast it at all and then when he smashed it, we were all cheering We all God Because this is the thing I would easily expect these writers to have him say, you know what no one can be trusted with the serum But I can But yeah, yeah, it smashes it and it's like, oh, thank god. Yes. Thank you so much Not just for the fact that this is in character, but my god. Am I done with super soldiers? Please get rid of this shit Yeah, um as this this is this is the last of the good shit though because uh somehow she gets away Like oh, well because remember what happens is he's smashing all the stuff instead of shooting her and then yeah He gets away and then fucking shield hits him and the god damn like Well, I just want to make sure everyone understands all of the logistics here Okay, so Zemo arrived and cut her off to shoot her and then fail miserably at killing her She escapes because one of her cohorts came in through a doorway that she came into in the first place meaning A place closer to where falcon winter soldier would be but they still haven't managed to find this area yet Even though there's been gunfire now, which would totally echo through a place like this um So they go through that door And that door is where falcon winter soldier eventually come out of in about 20 seconds from now So I guess they didn't cross paths with those people Unfortunately, yeah, and also they should have been I mean right behind her from the get-go Also, also, also, you know, it's really easy to track and somebody is bleeding all over the place Ali's done though winter soldier's gonna see that blood and be like well, I've got it now Like there's nothing like all times and do you remember falcon's glasses could trace footprints Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's right. I guess he didn't bring them here Well, I was gonna say maybe he didn't bring his goggles so never mind actually. Oh, well Yeah, if he falcon, why would you bring your Why would you bring such a use? Well, wait, but we know he did because he has that equipment anyway later on He has it. Well, I don't think he has it Zemo's place Yeah, that's right Um, but Zemo's having loads of fun. He's just he's just smashing all of them But unfortunately, I'm gonna play it frame by frame something's gonna happen guys We're free mentioned it, but I mean it's still kind of funny to do this. Oh no, it's gotten all real close to him now It's gonna hit That really looks like Break your face like I look at you never gonna be able to talk again. Oh my goodness So, um, I was genuinely considered like is he dead like what the hell Uh Literally he has an ice pack in the next episode. He's like, ouch that hit I can still talk totally. Yeah, it's fine. Zemo's fine. Don't worry about him. He's gonna be great. Uh, and then Walker sees the last vial and takes it for himself Which, uh, I think is fine character wise makes sense The only thing that's a little bit flumpy about this is the second he pockets it his, uh Lamar turns up right behind him like, oh, hey, man, what'd I miss and then falcon of winter soldier appear right in front of him go, hey, what I miss Remember when like this. Oh, I mean, I guess this is a later plot point But remember how like when when steve had to take the serum he had to get put in a big old tube And bunch of lights they made it better made it better now Uh, they made one where you just injected and you're strong suddenly Well, I will say this, uh, the serum does seem to be very very different because steve's fucking grew Yeah, physical. Yeah, significant physical transformation. These lads just get all of the power but they don't change No To be fair Of the simplification process Yeah, that could be wrong. Well, what I just said is doctor says something along the lines of like I made it more subtle So it's a throwaway line, but it's something Yeah, well, I was saying like there is reason to believe that different serums, right? Like I think so It's just that um, I guess I find a little frustrating though that this like Fucking five-year-old girl has like the power of a truck when she punches people It just doesn't it's like no, it doesn't seem quite right as it doesn't You'd think there'd be some physical changes to be able to have that kind of punch behind you Like it must change your flesh bone and how everything works It's very convincing when you see steve go through it because he just looks like a tank Um, for sure, but now it's just like no, I can be anybody It's just like I get okay because like, I don't know. It's like it's like sci-fi. I guess but Wait, does this come under fantasy or sci-fi when you just have goo that makes you Yeah, this is absolutely. I would say Yeah, it is it is made in a lab and stuff. So yeah, yeah, whereas fantasy means magic This isn't magic. It's meant to be contrived Well, what if it's what if it's sorcery not magic? Oh, well, I mean as I learned in that writing class There is no you can't have fantasy and science fiction at the same time. It's either one or the other That'll never catch on never catch on that were man that advice Even it's like he's wrong It would be funny if they were like, well, yeah, no excluding stuff like the mcu, but you can't you can't do it Yeah, there you go, he's got his ice pack I'm sure you'll be okay. And this is one of the more disappointing parts of the whole episode because I think I can't remember which of the two things are but one of the things falcon says to him is what about bucky in relation to how Super soldiers are all horrible And zemo doesn't answer it and that really fucking bothers me I wanted to hear him talk about it and I guess we're just supposed to appreciate that he's thinking about it It's like, okay I guess I should have be appreciative that I got that even this reminds me of when uh when in endgame Uh roti's like hey captain marvel. Where the fuck were you? And she's just like, oh, you know I was on other planets and they sort of like don't answer back and they just It's a good point. It's like no, please explore that further like it's not over Um Sorry guys it's time for that scene Uh, yeah This is the one that the set twitter ablaze and showed you who the retards were like very clearly I Did and it's it's ridiculous what if you think the scene is good quit if you're It's done. You're over stop it Uh, so The stakes are zemo's little place. We're chilling here with with zemo falcon bucky Uh, unfortunately walker knows where they are and he walks in and he's like hey enough with this zemo shit He's going to prison And then falcon's like, you know, dude, you don't have any jurisdiction here Uh, which is funny because it's like neither do you so I don't know why you brought that up I don't know why jurisdiction comes up in the first place. They're in a foreign country. No one's a citizen there Um, I guess you could have well This is the weird thing about it because of the whole like contracts with the government yet also free agent Does anybody have any say over what falcon can do? I guess this show likes to believe that no one does okay So like even if surely they would right like if the if the u.s. Government like oh, this is no fly zone can't come here He can't just be like i'm a free agent. It's like, oh There's no fly zone here. She can't come here I'm from madrepoor. Your laws mean nothing to me. Also, dude. Look at labar's face right now, by the way He's just like Um, so yeah, uh, this is the weirdest walker gets there's a couple of things the walker does in the season That are kind of weird and it's just because the the makers wanted him to be evil He's like Oh, do you want to fight falcon? Is that it? Do you want to do you want to fight me? It's like What what what? You know instead of just being like no, we're gonna take zemo. He's like, you know, I'll fight you And then he's like, I guess I need to make it fair And he puts down the um the shield So you almost think for a moment We're um I just pulled it up and just he paused. Oh my god. Yeah, so We put the shield down And before we could engage with whatever that was gonna be His you saw where his head was right guys was right about here And then he realizes someone across the room has appeared with a spear And so he quickly moves back before the spear would have taken his fucking head off Now What the hell You don't know anything that's going on lady. You just need to kill the guy Look at walker's face. That is the audience like what? I'm like, what the fuck that why are you insane? The kind of international incident that this alone could cause Hey, what condons killed captain america? Yeah, an agent of Wakandan royalty attempted to murder captain america While on foreign soil Like are you fucking while he was trying to apprehend zemo who bombed the un Is like so you understand that like this will get the world to hate you Like this is it's what are you doing you dumb bitch? Is that the face of someone was like, wait, did I fuck up? Was I supposed to do that? You fucked up really Really bad. Uh-oh you made one of the biggest fuck ups that have that is ever fucked up There was the first day on the job Immediately after these these lasses walk in and I like to believe that they were on a little calm thing And they're like take the head off captain america and we will come in and she throws the spear and they walk in like Oh, you missed him. Okay. Why? Hey It's fine. How you doing? So for anybody in chat who's like, what in the hell is happening the door milage Almost assassinated captain america for memes because really they just want to get zemo. They're like, hey, we want zemo Which is the same reason he was there by the way. Yeah, that's fucking insane He was like zemo used to be in prison to each other and then It's almost like a comedic fucking sketch. He walks in like zemo needs to go to prison If I was like, no, and then someone takes his head off and goes he was right by the way zemo needs to go to prison like oh, okay um So She says even if he's a means to your end, uh, he's gotta go to prison times up All right, so we're taking it back to germany, right? Where he was from where where the world was actually jail Yeah, where he he went to there was like a trial and there was a court system and they Took him to germany to be in prison And that's where it was decided that he would go Because shawla was the one who apprehended him and brought him to that prison. Yeah, yeah so Yeah, like I think what is the wakandan king thinking right now if he were here if he was watching this he'd be tearing his hair out Like what the fuck are y'all doing? I'm just trying to kill captain america. Imagine he gets that phone call. Hey, so we you know How'd your mission go? It's like, oh, yeah, good. So we threw a spear at captain america's head and he's just like what the fuck You know, he just hangs up immediately What's remarkable and it's it's a point to john walker is They nearly killed him and in response. He's like, okay Clearly we need to chill out a sec and have a chat Yeah, yeah, which is pretty awesome of him to do instead of just pulling his gun and being like fuck all of you And then he's like, hey, oh, I'm john walker and then they don't say anything And then it's like, oh cool. Um, can you like can we put down the pointy sticks, which is what they are? Yes Like he he's smiling is like, oh you'd rather fight bucky than these guys. It's like, uh, no I mean, yeah, he says we don't have you don't have jurisdiction here And then we get the the wonderful line the big line the one that is infamous Uh, yeah, I'm probably gonna butcher it but she says the door of milage have jurisdiction wherever the door of milage find themselves to be Super villain shit right Yeah, like that is so this is the re Super villain shit is a good way to phrase it. This is what villains say Unequivocal this is what villains say this is not something that good people say bad people say this Yeah, I'm like you need to fucking reconsider a lot about who you are and what you value Like unironically if you were if you were in a military or something and you said this shit That's almost like disqualifying Yeah, that's um, that's like people this has led to wars Yes, and uh, it's it's especially concerning in this context because it's like Oh, no, no, no, no. Did you see that the movies? There was a whole thing about this actually Um, and I thought part of the theme of this show was to try and shed some not so I guess flattering lights on imperialism in general Like it's kind of like, hey, isn't it bad that people just sort of take stuff that isn't theirs That was something that show was gunning with and so these people are just like, yeah So everything goes according to our will whenever we decide and so all of us as You know attentive Audience members like wow, these are clearly the bad guys even according to the show's sort of Thematic undertones and the narrative itself. These are definitely the bad guys. The the fucking yeah Marvel studio's official account is like these guys are bad ass. Everybody loves them. So cool Is what mark the marvel said they they had the quote the the text over the picture Of the dora melange person and marvel said as they should as they should Completely contradicting multiple movies of their own series specifically Yeah, it's funny. You don't even need to look at the real world political implications It's like in your own movies you acknowledge that this is like kind of big headed and wrong But the interesting thing is you probably have a lot of people say oh, well they're Wakanda They've got like the best tech and they're the most enlightened That's like, oh, I mean kind of like what america thinks of themselves as well and like basically any country But they're like the best What the fuck would that be an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want? So like oh, they think they oh, so what you're saying is they really think they can Yeah, basically they think they have the means to do it so that they they have the right to which is Yeah, because they have sure police It's world police. I can't think of anybody else that feels that way or would feel that way um And yeah, uh, the the big killer for this is that to chakra Is one of the main proponents of the accords which were all about jurisdiction and accountability and basically these people To avenge him Are going against the very thing that he was murdered during like it is absolutely hilarious How fucking bonkers this all is they have no idea what they're doing and If like like you could do this in a better way like you have if we are redesigning walker And he's an asshole he could stop this fight, but i'm about to show you What is one of the most offensive acts in the history of superhero movies? Can you see everyone can you see that arm everybody look? It's moving trigger warning that arm is moving Chat look out the arm's coming right for you. Oh, you can see the hand Oh, no, stop it. Oh And I knew by the framing exactly what would happen and I was like, oh no Look the camera's just gonna start a fight because she's such a petulant little child Oh Oh dear Like vlc new dude, it just comes to one of them flinging through the skies. It's like what the fuck's How was he strong enough to kick him across the room? She's strong enough to kick him so hard that he flies into the spear and then jumps totally over him You're not a super soldier as john points out later in the scene, but with oh, yeah, we'll talk about all of that So what i was trying to show for anybody who's confused in chat He puts his arm on his shoulder and says we got off on the wrong foot Which is one of the most standard american ways of just being like let us have a chat Clearly it's not Now well when you're from different cultures, for example, uh, they go over this in in in in scary movie three, you know Putting Like peeing out of fingers versus grabbing people by the throat and strangling them. These can be cultural differences Okay, you could try and murder someone and you're like, no, no, no, this is how we say hello. Sorry Um When someone puts their hand on your shoulder, you might be from a from a culture where that means I want to kill you and your entire family and so it was walker's mistake, but So but obviously the the incredibly enlightened to a condense Should know That if someone touches you in a non-threatening way That is not licensed for you to start fighting to the death like a bunch of fucking barbarians You see in the next scene that if if he hadn't gotten his shield quick enough He would have been stabbed through the heart by Yeah, there's so many there's so many things you have to go in slow-mo for this All right, because you kind of brought it up already But the first thing she does is hits him so hard Like like she hits him in the in the leg then the face. Um, this is a vibranium fucking Super spear by the way And yeah, he flings into his back first into the vibranium spear that's on the wall and slams down That to me is already enough to be like, oh shit. Walker. Are you okay? Like that would have fucked you up, buddy Insane absolutely insane remember she did that because he put his hand on her shoulder Um, and you know what maybe someone in in shout there's someone in there. His name is larry. He's like, oh, yeah Well, you know what? Walker, maybe he shouldn't have overstepped his bounds. That's just a tap, you know It's a love tap. He's fine. He's gonna be okay to which we present the next epic moment This lady does a retarded spin through the air because she's palpatine, I guess and then she's like time to get you Look at that outright act of attempted murder on a guy because he touched your arm No, literal execution go right there. Do this move like without wires. Can you be in the air and then somehow spin yourself? Not something I would teach you exactly. Yeah So, yeah, uh, this was kind of mind-blowing because I was just like, oh my god if he hadn't grabbed the shield He'd be dead. Oh my god. He'd be dead And you'll make me the good guys John Walker didn't try Yeah, then they go to kill him If they just grabbed his arm like captain marvel did and that deleted scene would have been better This here's the thing this is what they are on the inside The only language they understand is violence and ferocity So So this gets really funny because she's doing she doesn't jumpy jump over the furniture But this is a team up move. They're gonna throw the spear at her like the here it comes. She's like Oh god, that wasn't supposed to happen. Next frame doesn't work very well on vlc right now. I just gotta use my copyright cover Well, yeah, she throws it over to her and she catches it as she comes down and starts doing the stupid spinny stuff that they like to do Yeah, so like why do you spin the thing around your neck? Why don't you just stab like you think when people are hunting mammoths? Could you imagine them doing these crazy moves ninja flipped over it? Yeah, in case you guys couldn't see it she threw that at this one who was jumping over all the furniture to grab It's like you could have just tossed it to it. You didn't have to do this insane shit like a javelin I think I'm breaking the lc right now. There we go. Oh, what a great place to come back to two of the door in milage trying to execute fucking lamar because Lamar do what the hell did he do? The funny thing is there's a freeze frame where she can just stab him in the heart and she just spins the thing They just do these stupid spins when it's like, oh, you can kill him If you really want to which clearly do This this scene is absolutely. Let me show you what it means the hardest ones to watch Man for a show that's yeah, there it is asked with like black people and black characters They don't give a fuck about Lamar. Do they no he's the punching bag black character I mean this is the episode where he dies He is falling under this way of the white devil while all of this is happening Fucking salmon buck you're like, oh, we should help. It's like. Oh, really you think so Yeah, because you got Zemo, right? Who's like having a drink just look at it, which I like yeah Because he's like these are the people fighting over who gets to put me in prison first It's like, I don't care whatever you guys do you um but of course loads of killing blows being deflected regularly and um I guess the craziest part to me is like as much as you may hate walker. What the fuck is Lamar like you didn't do anything He just got attacked Uh, and then there's the part where her name is ayah, right? She she sees John's and he looks up at her And then she reels back ready to stab him through the throat I did want to fucking file is a flumpin around. I guess because I keep the next frame thing It's it just doesn't like me doing that. I'm sorry vlc. Can you please? Yeah, though I just want to make sure everybody acknowledges this. This is the attitude they have you see how they're they're just like Two of their soldiers that have saved their lives are about to die. They do not care And yeah, they're fighting for their lives here. You complain about assassination like throughout But when does it get to the point? We like no, I guess this is in character now That's that's we were out. They've damaged them so much. I guess this is just who they are now Um, they don't care about their friends dying. Why would they I don't give a fuck Yeah, so I don't want to make sure that was clear, uh really really lame. Yeah, go ahead That's what happens next she beats down walker and she's got the spear pointed at him And he's not attacking her anymore and she reels back to stab him through the face And the only reason that she can't kill him is because bucky stops her at the last minute And it's just funny how later on in the scene she's like, oh fuck you bucky Not letting me kill this guy who did nothing wrong Like It's oh, that's that's so evil. I know so she can't beat him. He's a winter soldier Yeah, he's insane at this. He's like the best and though. He's arguably before this series like the best in the world Well, uh, this happens really quick and I think a lot of people might miss it This is a shot of one of the Dora Milaje about to execute Lamar. She's right about to do it Yeah, Sam stops him sir. Yeah, just stopped just in time and I want I want it to be noted, right? It's really important and good that they stopped this from happening. That's like fucking standard But they were lucky that the prior like three attempts at executions were blocked because they didn't do shit all about them Um pretty disappointing, but what can you do? Uh Zemo escapes because everybody in the room is retarded. It's it's like everybody should care about this But nobody catches it. Um It's and this is the thing the nature of flaws like I'm fine with Zemo It doesn't do anything for Zemo's character in a bad way that he does this but it does bad for everyone else It's like nice The entire fight is about Zemo and they just let him go because they're all just fighting because they're idiots So it's just like great job guys. You let him go I don't think I've ever locked looked at this properly before but I don't know that just made sense logistically You know the spear throw she does to lock Yeah Trying to see where it starts He's there so she's He was really far away from that table when he was standing up and then he's no this doesn't incredibly close This does not fucking work at all. I'm pretty sure we really need to figure out this room. I need images If you see where she is when she starts She is we know this area, right? This is kind of where she was when we first saw her So if the room was a cube Um, oh, oh my god. I see what you mean. Yeah, she is in almost one of the corners The table she's throwing this at Is like that angle She would be here Where my mouse is right now in front of her. Yeah, she would be like here ish There's no way she can throw the spear this way. This makes no sense at all It like hits sideways it goes forward and then it hits on sideways on the table Like I think it might be even worse than what it comes across as when they they cut it. Um My god, this is the kind of thing that you need like scientists to get it on. Okay We gotta get all of the people to figure out how fucking flippy this is You know, even if it all made sense where they were standing Um, the luck of getting it through the bands locking his arm in and not hurting him at all It's like nice. I guess It's almost like they're super soldiers Yeah, and then there's the part where she then to save boost his arm But um, yeah, like it's like a a t uh sort of Move she it's forward and then it just turns on an angle which is impossible Like that's essentially what happens here, but I think it even makes less sense than I think she teleports from where she starts The spear throw to where she ends the spear throw. Um, so yeah, it's it's bad all around actually um But uh, oh also cap doesn't draw his gun at this point. He's got a free arm on the gun side, but he doesn't draw it You might wanna when you're at this point, mate Yeah, you think so And yeah, quite right next up is the the disable bucky's arm because he just lets her Yeah, and then he's just one crime the crime of preventing you from murdering somebody. Yep. Well touching her on the shoulder Yeah, I know that yeah, he's he's crime bucky's crime was stopping her from murdering captain america. Yeah. Oh, yeah Violently, but it wouldn't be in any blood The spear would have gone through his eyeball and then she pulls it out and it would be totally clean And they wouldn't play ominous music with her His corpse, of course, she's like uh, she says bust damn you james And it's the most I've wanted to punch a character through the fucking screen Just like I hate you. You're so wrong and you're so morally righteous at the same time Stopping me from murdering this guy who touched me Um, and like I said zemo escaping drinking his drink those are kind of like pluses There's another plus in this scene that I actually like but uh go ahead Um, I just want to mention again the the subtitles For what she says on the official subtitles are speaking wakandan james That's what I said. Yeah, she says bust damn you james because the person listening couldn't understand her flupy speak He just said wakandan speak It's pretty hilarious. You'd think they'd have updated that by now, but uh, oh well, yeah um, right and yeah, so you have this moment where um Caps on the ground and the dorm allowed to actually take his shield She picks it up and he's just pretty much defeated. Um, but the leader says leave it He's gone Almost implying that they would have taken the shield had zemo been here or something I don't know what leaving the shield or keeping the shield has anything to do with zemo, but Yeah, whatever and a lot of people by the way said that um, you know, they should have taken the shield It's vibranium that belongs to them. No, it doesn't I was like Oh, do you want to get into a conversation about original places where materials come from means the people who lived there Originally owed them like what the where are we going to get to at that point? I was about to say I don't even think steve shield was like forged from wakandan vibranium wasn't it just like I think howard said it was like the rarest metal on earth, so didn't they just get it from random places I don't think they got and also well all vibranium into commodity. You don't own an entire. Yeah, exactly Also that uh we're gonna say I'm pretty sure all vibranium came from the comet though because that's that's like It came from out of space or whatever so but like I don't give a fuck Like I don't I don't care that it was originally in wakanda you guys Remember they like to forget this we're gonna have to keep reminding wakandans of this they colonized the other tribes, so Yeah, fucked you guys do it too Um, but of course the the gods you can't can't be making fun of them. They they're totally fine. And yeah, um There's this there's the sense in the air. You're like a minute Everybody just fucking lost these guys. Are they really that good? And uh, walker has a bit of a what you could call like a an audience moment a meta moment He's really sad because he got defeated by people who aren't even super soldiers when we were told that this guy is like top tier So I see it as more He's like sad at the writers. It's like, why have you done this to me? This doesn't make sense And I feel really bad for him. You could tell me it'd be like this when I signed on Yeah Um, and but like genuinely it because walker's like one of the only characters that gets like a close to a proper arc Whether or not this show wanted him to uh It makes sense that he keeps losing his fights. He's not point man And he doesn't have his jurisdiction that he would now use the serum. I think that lines up pretty well Um the pity how we got here because everything's so fucking stupid But yeah, look at him. They weren't even super soldiers Mm-hmm Which means that you should have won that oh, yeah, but no no one can beat those fuckers I hate the door in the logic Like Thaddos would probably try and like, you know, turn them into spaghetti with his stupid powers that they would be like, uh, excuse me Oh, dare you that he's like what? We have We have killed one of them, right? At least yeah, and he slit her throat and there was no blood at all. It was hilarious It's just unreal. Well, that's because Kilimanjaro's a good guy. Remember you have to judge it by blood Dude, even in the theaters though when I watched that scene. I'm like, what the She cut like you're dead. He cut your throat open. Well, they don't want to get on our rating. Geez It's funny because stuff like that. It's like, why did you have him cut her throat open then? Do something else um Yeah, and then they have a little conversation Finally and then non-combatant clothes and uh, there's Lamar basically says that surely getting stronger just makes you more of who you are Which um, it is a you know an interesting thing to just talk about because it's like a lot of people say power corrupts And it's like maybe it just reveals corruption that was already there And now that you have more ability to make more choices You're now going to show your true colors and that everybody has to worry about that It's a fair observation Uh as well as showing that they they value like the whole the the sign and autographs and The thing is you know, he's gonna die because this seed is basically like aren't we aren't we good friends? We've had a long history of stuff. I like hanging out with you smile. You're like, uh-oh Omarud So then The plot sort of just kicks back in because this episode is very jumbled. Um, carly calls falcon sister sara tells her That um better better watch out your kids and your little doc just saying Saying i don't i don't like don't like falcon working with captain america just saying Sarah's like holy shit and she calls uh falcon to say that carly wants a meeting And of course naturally the falcon like when he gets there He's like what the fuck you threatened my sister and she's like i i don't want to hurt her and you're like I hate you carly. I really hate you So full of shit Um And yeah this conversation that they have i feel like the writers ran out of things to have them talk about They just wanted to get to the fight, but they had to break it up for the two fights and so he kind of arrives and He's like because is this You know just awkward. She's like i thought you were gonna come alone and it's just like yeah Didn't he needs to be here for the action scene so Thanks god And then uh, yeah charon's fucking satellite Finds walker who finds the flag smashes and she tells falcon this That they're like oh shit. We got to go this weird thing happens We're uh, so like this I don't know how to explain this they're not already hostile in this scene. Um Winter soldier goes to jump down to the ground Carly jumps off where she is to ram into winter soldier He's like whoa What are we doing? All he was doing was jumping down. You just like it's just like oh, okay. Fuck Um, they don't kill her again though because they never do Do you know how many people these people kill across all the mcu? They never kill the people like that. They need to please We need it Um, it's so weird to think by the way, I don't know how you guys feel about it that narratively It's charon carter that kills carly. Does that not feel kind of like oh That doesn't it's not really satisfying in any way. She got to be the one who killed carly like fuck off Yeah, because you'd think they presented is not that great. So you know what I mean? Yeah They also try to like have a little connection with her and carly where it's like you worked for me though We had different philosophies like you didn't introduce like your one scene Well, that's their only scene together in the whole yeah Um, I would argue that the the two assumed choices for killing it would have been walker and uh Why am I blanking I had the other name in my head. Where did it go come back? Bucky sam No to both of those. What was who's zemo that was it? It was a walker and zemo seemed like the ones that would would nail carly But uh, I think what I said when we were watching it zemo's chance to kill her was in that scene that he nearly killed her He's not going to be the one to do it anymore Yeah, and he just didn't For reasons. Yeah, it would have been way more satisfying for him to just fucking tear through her with bullets But never mind So this scene's really weird This is the building that apparently the flag smashes are in I I don't know how walker found this out I guess I need to re-wash this fucking show to pick up these things, but he was just like This is where they are And so the other guns out that gun by the way, he's not going to use it throughout this whole scene except for any Opens doors and walks of staircases. That is the time you use your gun Yeah, you don't actually use it to kill the deadly evil terrorists in front of you Now these two are off the books quote-unquote No backup in a hostile area filled with people by the way that they know can beat the shit out of them The first question is what the fuck are you doing guys? Reinforcements, yeah, just one or two people, you know a little bit of help and you might be like well walker has the serum now And it's like yeah walker does But like even then You know you want backup right because this is against more people who have the serum and lamar doesn't maybe look out for your wingman They're oh, sorry. That's an offensive You're just your side man um So, yeah, this is weird moment where he's like. Yeah, go look now these again just the two of them He goes just up the stairs And it's like a second where he's gone and then walkers like mama mama Oh my god, and he's been kidnapped It's just like what? How did that happen? Um, and he's he's been kidnapped taken to like a shower area and tied up. It is crazy Like in terms of just logistics it always is the show is just like now this happened now and you're like, oh, okay Well, oh, oh, all right. I guess You'd think that they would go through this area side by side back to back Constantly like it's just you two the second you split up. It's much worse like you guys gotta be real careful um So then uh, I think we just get like bucky and falcon have made their way into this building as well Oh, by the way, they leave lamar with his knife How do you think he escapes guys? It's a real braid teaser But yeah, like I'm not sure why they wanted to do that this way, I guess Oh, so this is something I thought was funny when I was watching Um, you guys remember this one real well because I think I said like I'm gonna have to go back and see this Because I don't know how the fuck this happens Cap stars fighting this random dude in this room. It's almost like an arena room. I guess Now here we go. I'm gonna have to take copyright off because you have to see this what it is. Okay So caps fighting kicked into this wall He's about to throw the shield very angrily the point that we're given by the scene is oh He's taken the serum because there's no other way you could have done that Now he was just kicked into the wall by this guy watch what happens Please work frames Like I'm mad. Here I go throwing my shield So we're we're scanning across. Oh What just happened? Almost like we just switched scenes That's weird And then oh And that's not vlc glitching up. By the way, that's the that's the show. Um The shield goes into a wall and again is shocking and then it cuts back to walker And he's like where did the guy go? Like yeah, I don't know walker. You just fucking transferred scenes thin air like he vanished into thin air. He just Yeah, like what do you mean? Where did what why were you throwing it over there then? How did this happen the guy disappears in the edit? It's insane walker's just like whoa. That's so weird how people can just diss him I swear to god walker is the most aware character I've ever seen when in a shitty show He's like why are you writing me this way? Why are you making people disappear on me? What's happening? Doesn't make sense Oh Is this sorcery or wizardry? I do not know possibly both Um Yeah, and then the guy just like magically turns back up again They continue their fight, but I just that edit is shocking the guy who did it was ashamed of himself He knew he was like this is terrible. Hopefully no one's. Oh, he definitely knew um Yeah, and so, uh Bucky's chasing carly falcons getting in there too. We're getting close to the big payout Everyone's got to collect up, you know for the for the big flumes. Now this part kind of annoys me uh Walker punches this dude through a door and falcon sees it Now remember you know who the flags smashes are you know? This is a fight they she carly just fucking like rammed into winter soldier By the way, so like this is hostiles now in the middle of a fight Cap is is walking into the room Falcon just watches this he doesn't care Just like what you guys up to you having a fight He likes he likes to watch this guy fight for his life. It is nothing like this is what I mean You can't just like point it out as like oh, this is like a floor They make him do this. What are they trying to say about his character? Why do they keep having this happen? um But of course it serves a story purpose He he sees walker bender pipe with ease and even this guy is like holy shit walkers a soup of duper And then he gets thrown And falcon again does nothing. He's looking at the terrorist on the floor. He's like, hmm I guess he just fell over. That's weird And then he watches him run away like I I hate falcons so much So terrible All right, we're just gonna let him go. Yeah, well and it's worse because he's like, what did you do walker? It's like, um Are you like unaware of the situation right now? It's like what and then walker has to tell him they've got lamar It's like, yeah falcon. Maybe the situation is really bad and you should be helping your team instead of just going Hey, did you take the serum? How dare you? God he's so worthless and so yeah, he's definitely up there with He's he's really a contender for like biggest idiot in the mcu at this point. Just the most botched character It's probably the greatest assassination of the mcu. I don't know that anyone. Well, what do you think free? This is the thing with one do you mean like in terms of assassination with her character The thing with falcon is that there's so many instances of it instead of it being like one major one if you know what I mean Yeah, and him and bucky they just turn them into buffoons It's like a different type of assassination, but it's just like I I don't know man. I hate when characters just turn into idiots like What what were once competent characters? They just they just turn into clowns like great job That's not good. It's um, it's just very indicative of his morality too Unfortunately if only it was him missing his shots or failing to get to people on time because he can't fly probably or whatever Like no, there's so many scenes where it's like, oh bucky doesn't care about people's lives Oh, sorry falcon. Well, both of them really Um, so yeah, we get to the big arena room. This is the big fight room It's kind of weird They turn up and then two flag smashes try to jump on them to surprise attack them But don't attack them until they turn around. It's like, okay guys strategies. I don't know um And then they pull out a knife It's just like they're trying to do more mcu memes and um walkers like why do they always gotta have knives It's like he he so funny. You have a fucking gun, but yeah, it's fine. You know, don't use it. Just use the shield action scenes work Uh lemar eventually turns up too and I think that's about it before the thing happens But we're all here to talk about the day. Okay big scene. It's the one that everybody like oh my goodness so fighting all over the place right super soldiers versus good guys and um All kinds all kinds of beating up is happening Cap is unfortunate enough to have oh by the way, bucky has a chance to kill one of them and he chooses not to Um, I don't know what the show thinks it's saying Uh guy with a knife tries to kill bucky. I'm showing it now and uh He manages to disarm him. I think and throw him over the floor Now he could throw the knife at his head But he chooses to miss And uh and avoid killing him and I do not understand what we're doing here. Are we killing each other or not? Because if you remember when someone dies, it's very dramatic and everybody runs away So I don't know what's happening They just wanted to punch each other just wanted to knock each other out when you know they wanted to have a fight I do not know what everybody's up to in this scene I figured everyone was trying to kill each other because everyone's gonna kill you if you don't try and kill the other Sort of thing, but whatever. I guess um As we as we're getting up that tension though, unfortunately cap is grabbed and placed into a precarious position where uh, He can't defend himself if someone were to let's say stab him in the heart Unfortunately for him the guy who restrains him Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's worth remembering the guy restrains him. What his face is Yeah, just remember that face So here it comes he's kind of fucked here like carly's gonna get that shot right in Oh, like she's getting over the tail here. She goes. Oh god. It's all over. Oh, Lamar the fucking legend Gets right in there knocks her over Now that's some good old-fashioned action that tells you everything about characters. I'm sure Uh, walker was very happy to see his best friend save his life. Good stuff Um carly though, he's a little bit annoyed So that happened So she punches him He kind of gets his back broken dies Lamar is a mvp you're all right. He is a base lamar chat lamar base Yeah, I want to yeah lamar and walker are the heroes of this story with zima as well Yeah, I'd saving his best friend a lot of people don't want to go out that way Yep, and so the whole room is shocked by this Kind of weird when you're watching it you're like wait, but You guys kill people all the time. Don't you you were trying to kill early? What was the point of the knives if you were trying to kill them? Were you just trying to spook them with the fucking knives? Like what is this? Oh, no, we killed someone who doesn't matter So yeah, uh, yeah Such a weird scene and uh, we already knew what was gonna happen when we were watching this like I think when do we call this it was like Uh, when they were entering the room is like we were like lamar's gonna die and he's gonna go nuts and do something evil Like that was yeah, it's just that's just it Um, the thing is the show didn't make him do something evil. We're about to get to that So, uh, yeah, he's like, oh no, Lamar. Are you okay? This sort of allows them to scatter when I don't even know that they would Feel like if they remember tell him now Carly is a soulless monster. Not just because she's ginger. That's that's like a bonus. Uh, she doesn't want She she isn't sad that lamar's dead She's sad that she didn't get to kill captain america because that's the one that batters So this is prime opportunities This is the one you're like, oh he goes and checks on his friend. I can fucking kill him easily now But they all ran away Now remember she thinks that like what is quintessential to the goal is to kill captain america He's like the symbol of everything that's wrong with the world right now. And so this is the prime opportunity. She just runs off It's like that's weird Could it be There is another reason for her to run off Could it be that they're trying to get everybody away because they need cap to kill one person in particular? Not carly That would all baby So and maybe there was a scene earlier in the movie where that guy Where this one particular person might have said oh captain america. I love that guy. What a hero Captain america that shield man It's great. Oh, yeah, captain america. I like him a lot Would it be a shame if I died by captain america's hand? That'd be lame Now we talk about Uh, try to figure out like when scenes are coherent or not you have everybody in them You think of how they're there what they're capable of doing what they want all that sort of stuff Now there's two people in here that we haven't really considered yet. We've done it for everyone else falcon and bucky Now with all of the the flimpers running away And they see walker burst out of a window chasing someone What do you think they would do as characters? What do you think their next step is? Oh, I assumed they'd help him because he's clearly chasing someone important I feel like may they ask him what's going on like both bucky and falcon would follow him through that window They'd be like that guy is on a rampage. We've got to go like not only look out for him If he gets himself in trouble, but also possibly prevent him from doing something accidental that we wouldn't want him to do Which by the way, they definitely don't want him to do the thing that he does because they end up trying to fucking kill him because of it So yeah What i'm suggesting is had they followed him, which I think they would have the scene doesn't play out the way that it does Unfortunately for us, uh, they are put in a fridge As a lot of writers tend to do with characters that are going to get in the way Uh, they just aren't around anymore. Yeah, the camera doesn't see them. So they're not there shut up that simple And so walker bursts out of the windows pretty epic and unfortunately for the guy who held him prior Oh, there you go. They're running after someone question mark They just run somewhere. Um, I guess they lost whoever they were chasing because they're both morons And they never catch anybody, but yeah, they never caught them. They just come back empty-handed Uh cap is chasing I thought by the way that they cut back to lamar I thought that they were gonna have it so lamar didn't die and that whatever walker does is under the assumption that lamar died And then it turns out that he's like, you know, spruggling, but he's not actually dead And so it It just takes but no, they I guess they just cut back to let us know this is why he's upset by the way Yeah, we know We were watching Yeah, this this bit happens. I've always found abusing when you rewatch this seed This guy picks up like I guess a drinking fountain like a concrete sort of type one Throws it into cap and cap just blists it apart It's like so he's already still an active threat. He's still trying to kill you Um, he's not surrendering or anything But then Cap does the unthinkable He hits him In the back Um Yeah hits him hits him and then executes him when he says, please. I don't I didn't kill lamar I just try to try and use so that you got bad. It's fantastic. I try to kill you Yeah, I didn't I didn't kill him. I wanted to kill you idiot. You're like, it's not gonna help you case man Everyone's going wow. Look at captain america kill that terrorist It's everyone there's like a crowd of like 25 people and all of them have their phones out at the same time to video Oh, yeah Camera trigger If you couldn't gather what they were saying This is look at this shot. I fucking hate this shot. Look at the arm falls and the blood is splattered upon it Shut up It's just like I know he's a fucking terrorist. He's an evil killer Just killed an american soldier. Why do we not care about this? Yeah, what what the fuck do you think he was doing in afghanistan? I'm drinking tea with these motherfuckers So the best you can say for what the intention of the scene was is that the way he does it So brutally and in public is a bad look, but like killing this guy is clearly the right thing to do Yeah, then the story comes out. Also. Yeah. Oh, yeah They were just engaged in a life-or-death battle. This guy just killed captain america's partner This guy was an active threat. He just attacked captain america's seconds before Yeah, I think the easiest way to interpret this scene is was this the best response? No Um, was this a response that you could see happening though? Yeah, would people condemn him for it? Not many No, I would yeah, that would be the big thing. What would probably be the better option It's like maybe interrogate him like he's oh, yeah, he should have arrested him But like this is the heat of it's more it's it's not unthinkable that this could happen Nor would people hold it against him that much. Yeah, we wouldn't get in trouble at all for this We don't really have to um run this as like a what would happen in real life So it was like we can just judge if this were someone's phone recording And we saw this and then we got the context that we have from the the show What would you guys think of this theoretical american soldier in latvia doing this? Yeah If someone said do I condemn his actions I'd be like I think that it's perfectly reasonable for this to have happened Uh, I don't I don't really see how you can judge this man too harshly considering everything Like this was not the absolute best response go ahead Yeah, I would I said, you know, just don't do it in public where there's kids around I mean be private with it, but you know, I don't really give a shit I mean even to that I'd be like I mean well the luxury of Mommy, what are they doing with that man? It's like presents give a good presents It's not just some soldier though, it's captain america people hold him to a higher standard You mean like how captain america killed heaps of people I thought we went over this already Cap does this guys kill a lot of people Cap killed nazi rewatching in avengers when the the hydra guy Oh, you know, whatever the mercenary is fighting him and he tosses him overboard and the guy screams like As he falls to his death and he did that in winter soldier too just throwing people out to their deaths So they get to spend like a couple of minutes falling down to earth thinking about how their life is about to end Not a nice way to die But again, you don't hold it too because they're trying to kill him Exactly, yeah Hey, that's a great argument pretty amazing though captain america brought three helicarriers with thousands of people on them true And they killed innocent people in the process So You can't bring that up You're gonna you're gonna break people's brains like they can't handle this like the triskelion was infinitely worse than anything walker ever did Well walker killed one terrorist that he probably should have arrested yeah in a combat scenario. Yeah, and captain america Killed him indirectly killed a lot of civilians because he thought it would be a good idea to blow up the helicarriers Yeah, because he didn't want he decided no one should be having the power of those helicarriers And then in age of ultron he relied on it to save everybody's lives Like cap made a huge mistake in winter soldier and he was judged harshly for it Yep, which is which is great. Uh, and so don't run this bullshit that hey cap never did anything as bad as walker It's like, yeah, no, you're right did worse. So That guy and it's not even close. There you go. I just I just played the thing that guy's spines broken that he's Droughted Out of course the big one when tony says we're not reversing time cap doesn't put up a fight. He says, yep, that's totally fair Yeah, look at him. Look at him. He's super dead Plenty of people show the whole scene. I want you to show the whole scene of how many people die I can show it with the copy right up, but uh, you don't have to squint a little bit to see all of the kills. He's uh Yeah, there's he just knocks that guy go if you can see that that guy just yeah, he's gone And he's probably not gonna live what the age of ultra on one the opening scene I need to see the guy's rat getting dragged behind it getting dragged is not bad at all I would No, he's getting dragged to the side over dirt. That's not bad at all Oh, man, I feel like I would much rather be the guy. I would not even close I would rather be dragged Then get hit or kicked or punched by him in any way Not yet not even close rendering. He didn't have a chance to surrender. He didn't even know what happened to him He just died. Oh, look at that one Yeah, so cap lands and uh, yeah, so I hope I can get this in the right position Yeah, he jumps down to this lot. All right. This is a surprise attack. They don't even know he's coming um cap Has a choice he can opt to do moves that are gonna dismantle You know, like the batman way, right as best you can you try and dismantle and knock out Look at this kick. He does this guy's just turn around. Look how fast he traveled into that fucking barrel Some sort of rags hasn't played red dead. Oh, yeah, and in in a completely different circumstance My answer would be different. Good job Fucking idiot. Oh, oh, yeah You guys I I swear like if if you don't understand what the point is here, you're being like willfully obtuse It isn't bad that captain america's killing these people. They're bad. Yeah, that's fine. They have a combat zone There's an enemy combatants trying to kill him It is totally fine that he's killing these people. I expected to kill these people. Yeah The point is that it's really frustrating when A man is condemned for less Like when he shouldn't be condemned at all and when the hero that everybody says he ain't as good as Did the same thing whose tool he's using who whose shield he's using did way more They had to devote an entire movie To that. Yeah, and I do not want to understate the triskelion ends this conversation. Okay over And and again, just watch watch what's the first avenger and look at how many how many people again Killed in that movie and in what ways getting Getting their heads Well, they have the part with a motorcycle where it shoots the wire and it just knocks them off when in reality their heads are coming off It is again like in the simpsons. I told that idiot to slice my sandwich your head's covered off The triskelion is frustrated as well because it's not just civilians That get affected by all of this damage It's all of the people that um opted to fight hydra on behalf of cap and believing him in him in that triskelion building Remember falcon almost dies Um, there are a lot of people who rum look is buried Not that anyone can yeah, it's one of the things that they talk about civil war There are dead people who would be alive when it was the whole bucky thing It's like well, it's the same thing here. They'd be alive if you've made a different decision and so If we can wipe out this enormously stupid argument that hey, you know what cap didn't murder anybody unnecessarily It's like, okay, so good. We're done with that. Um This is no no worse than any of the others. It's just the way it's framed It's the way the camera moves the way the music plays. It's the shocked faces on the audience The blood yeah You could have done this with many of cap's kills and you have to be a willfully ignorant audience member to allow the show To tell you how to feel instead of feeling about these events how you would feel Yeah This is really the big thing to take away from this entire show was that If you watched it and were like, oh, john walkers are bad guys like the reason why you believe that is because You're not treating this like an actual sequence of events where you can make your judgments about what's happening and when the show is doing a good job but They should be in aligned. There should be some sort of alignment between um Between what you're seeing on screen and like how you meant to be interpreting it But here it's just oh, he's a bad guy Listen to this music And listen look there's blood on his shield. He's a bad guy, right The main character is treating him like a cunt. He's a bad guy No, again, so it wasn't the terrorist surrendering. Um, I don't know that he He just says like don't stop. Please like stand this sort of stuff um, this is the thing when you're like Literally inches and seconds away from making all of these decisions I don't know that it should be put upon him like morally that you should have known in those seconds Not to execute this man that could easily kill you if the tables were turned Example from saving private ryan, right? You have the first one where they surrender the guy pops up and shoots immediately Because it's like they need a battle And then you have the second one where the two guys are surrendering and the soldiers have like 10 seconds to make this decision And just kill them because I feel like it It's like clearly one of these is a lot worse than the other And to remind you of that that cap killer I was showing earlier. All right. Well, I mean it may as well be a kill from civil war Um, you say and like oh, he's surrendered. Look at this dude right here Do you really think that this isn't like when a person is literally dazed and wobbling back and forth? Having dropped their gun. Is that not the equivalent should cap not spare this man now? He's done He's out of the fight. No cat kicks him into the fucking table And if you said to me like he's shouldn't you condemn him for that? I'm like, no, this is a fucking no Being dazed is not a permanent affliction if this guy gets undazed at any point He's gonna pick up his gun and he's a deadly threat again. Now. Let's go back to this example You're like, hey, look the guy surrendered cap. Leave him alone. It's like, what if he fucking tries to kill me in a second layer? That's so ridiculous that he doesn't all of a sudden he's just like, no, please have mercy It's like, dude, you're a super soldier. Why aren't you fighting? Why are you all of a sudden like just There's um Cap is quite the body count If you inspect every single example of every time he's chosen to end someone's life You're gonna find plenty of what you saw with walker. And so Uh, if you find that too like like Think of iron man too the amount of people he's killed me didn't need to Oh, yeah, remember that that town that he was in like I forget the the name of it in the first iron man movie Like he punches a guy up like into a two-story building and like it explodes when he hits the wall It's like, yeah, he kills That's badass. Well, this is horrible because of the music and the cabra So I could tell him it's awesome Framing Be everything in terms of how an audience reacts to something. Yeah In iron man's case, you might be like, wait, so do you think it was bad in iron man's case? So I like, well, I mean, you know, these these were terrorists gathering a bunch of innocent people and killing them I don't really mind iron man swiping through them. Like it's it's, you know Not not really that bad in my book. No, uh, there's obviously like political elements to it And that's part of what iron man ends up dealing with or tries to in civil war ends up going with but um Yeah, this moment was incredibly controversial and lots people were discussed whether or not um Yes, you should consider him a bad guy or not and I was very worried at this point that he was going to become the villain for the season um Really didn't want that to happen Like carly teams up with falcon to beat him or something. Who would have been like the worst shit ever imaginable But they pulled it back a little bit, right? But unfortunately, I wish I could skip to when they pulled it back But something else has to happen first and we kind of talked about a little bit earlier That would be episode five I hated all of this this like might be the scene in the entire series that triggered me the most I was like god almighty. Yeah, I think so They they fall out just assault him and steal the shield break his arm And the the kangaroo court later on with like the senate where he just has no say in anything It's like how how is any of this happening? How is he just trying to kill me chickens before sir? Either like give us back our shield. It's like those guys stole it from me and broke my arm Like what do you want me to do? I would argue it's even weirder than that He says he'd like to give his testimony like to like, you know Add to the court and he and the guys like in response is like we already have all the information we need It's like that's not how this works Oh, but he just doesn't get to defend himself. All right, apparently it was really hard Just like I I'd like to give the context for everything. It's like shut up you like oh So uh When when you're a writer and you're like, oh man I can't wait for my action figure walker to fight action figure falcon action figure bucky Where can I have them fight? It's like well Currently they're in like a town plaza place with the corpse They all run to to a garage Okay Stay in public and try to find a way to leave the country or something like that or call in reinforcements or you know I would I would argue He's gonna want backup and he'll probably go back to lamar's body. I think that's gonna be the thing he wants to do Um, but no, he he's traumatized by his having killed a terrorist I guess you could argue that he's stressed out because of what he he believes people might think of him And he may have failed his job as captain america or something like that I thought I was still getting over lamar's death um He it's like playing quotes from lamar while he's like stressed out About how he's captain america So I think the show wants us to think that he's thinking about how and it's flashing back to him killing the guy as well um If if I was to ignore the fucking writers that are telling me how he feels I would say yeah, it's absolutely that he's trying to deal with lamar's death as well Not just oh my god. I failed being cap Damn because he kind of didn't really What are you guys? But yeah, he goes into this garage and he like has a little bit of a moment just being sad about what's happened and uh Then falcon and bucky just turned up. I guess they were keeping an eye on him Sort of trailing him and just being like oh he went into that place to go get him They keep showing us the blood on the shield by the way just in case you didn't know that's bad Keep framing it. It's so noticeable. It's like so many times too. It's like We fucking get it. Yeah I got it the first time around all he needed is that one shot stopped cutting back to the shield Well, I think you need to appreciate the getting blown. There's the shield the cap never did that this guy did though No, uh go watch the movies never drop a blood on that thing Fringy, what you don't know nothing you didn't watch the mcu apparently I'm sure that Yeah This bit here I consider very important. I'll even say I really like this shot The guy is clearly hurting. This is uh, not easy for him Now the first thought I would have if I was either falcon or bucky so they're watching him by the way Is holy shit. He's lost his best friend. That's gotta suck. You're okay Yeah, like are you all right? That's the like how do you not have our team person who saved my life? How are you all right? We can fix it's like it doesn't this doesn't have to all fall on you Like reassurance of some kind. We're here for you. Also. You did nothing wrong Probably toss that in yeah um Yeah, so And then he says time to go to work and gets back up Which is the thing that uh, he said when he first put the the outfit on in episode two Like he's trying to move past what's happened. It's like that's that's kind of nice You know there's more to say positively about walker than there is to say ever about bucky or falcon So I guess I'll just take those wins where I can get them Um, but yeah, this is what we talked about earlier He's like you guys should see a medic and then falcon immediately. He's like you need to stop walker. It's like what What's what's with the attitude? What's happening? And he's like you We don't want people to be hurt walk and put down the shield walk They're both just like stressed out when walk is pretty chill and he's done something that I think is perfectly easy to talk about You know, um, hey, remember when zemo killed someone that they were like, don't do it again zemo He's like tea. Yeah, don't do that again zemo. That would be bad if you did that again Please but with walker. They're like the show needs to stop and you need to hand us that shield boy It's like, oh my god Same like he's got like a gun in his hand and it's like Erratic and it's like it's like it's not like that though. He's he seems perfectly calm and lucid So it's like I don't know why you guys are freaking out so much If anything, he's pretty well adjusted considering lamar just died like And they don't appreciate that at all and they don't mention it. And like I said, it really pisses me off That's the case. They're doing dirty He's a victim of this show Yeah, um And then yeah, and then and then falcons like, you know, like I said, it all chills out It all calms down. It's a bit of a pause that you just have I'm gonna give us the shield. Okay No I would like it's so much better if they were like, come on. We get we look do we get just calm down? Let's work through this shit If we let's just work together from here on out Yeah And like just come to some kind of common ground Please Come on, you know what the funny part is in my ear Had he handed them it and said, you know what like I've uh, Maybe it's best for now because I'm kind of I'm a little like on edge Like I just need to calm down had that happened. They would have fucking left with the shield. I've been like see you later walker That would have been it. They wouldn't have been like, okay, dude come with us. Like you'll be okay. We're gonna laugh to you Because they don't give a shit about it. They just want the shield because they're selfish little pricks Yeah, they're assholes And um, so yeah, he says he's not gonna give him the shield and so they attack him It's kind of insane We're going to prison like just assaulting like a u.s. Agent like someone who like the america Is typically made into captain america. I mean like these guys they're going the way in the slammer for a while My face when this fight started I just I knew it was happening and when it started happening. I was like god almighty You gotta be kidding me. They're actually yeah, I was like walker kick their asses Oh, I so wanted him to win. I was so wanting him to win, but he just couldn't I think was just leave be like i'm not fighting you and it's just like dude I'm gonna run and then go back to the city square. Okay, like you can I'm not gonna fight if you remember evan as part of what I actually like again I'm just like the right is what do you have to he says why are you making me do this to with the soldier? It's like, yeah, why are you guys making him do this? Fuckers He doesn't need to he doesn't want to he's not aggressive at all. They're the ones who initiate this fight And it's just It's so backwards morally annoying Um The fight itself I can't even be asked to break down every single move. I'd rather just go narratively except for He tosses fucking bucky into a wall and it just disables his arbor knocks him out of the fight Like he he he accidentally hits some cables He can fall out of a plane and he's fucking fine But he gets thrown into one wall and then he's out until the plot needs him to be back Yeah, okay, fine clearly what though. Oh by the way walker throws the shield at bucky and he can't catch it. It tosses him Um, even though it's straight it's straightforward throw which to me. I was just like wait, but You've caught that before when cap has done this to you. Like what? Weird I guess walker throws harder than cap does What do what do you know? Um, and it's a straightforward throw straight to bucky and he just goes whoa and flies across which by the way Just makes if it can take you off your feet with its force, then I guess you can't stop it with your hands, right? Because that'll Am I understanding? I don't know the physics in this show or garbage, but I think you're right You know if it's gonna hit you hard enough that you'll fly off your feet Then your hands can't really do a lot of yeah, that's a lot of Oh, yeah, here we go. I guess I'll take the copy right cover off so you guys can see this Go frame by frame. Come on vl. So you can do it. See this is this is good old bucky. He's like whoa He's about to fly into See that he hits a cable. I guess Just your average cable and it sparks that his ob breaks and he just lies on the ground good That's it. Oh see it again All right, we can't like we can't miss an opportunity to make him shit Cannot miss an opportunity to make him terrible. That's all that ever is Um, and then foul. So this is the thing. He's defeated the winter soldier now. He's got left his falcon. It's like so he's won, right? Like falcon's not gonna be able to beat him. He's juiced up Like remember he tested off the charts for everything before he had the serum and he has the shield like falcon's done However Well, well actually he rips off falcon's wigs. Um, yeah, that's something that he does After screaming i'm captain america. Yeah, that was that's one of see that's one of the several bits of cringe about Walker in this season There's a little little sprinklings of cringe. We're just like, uh, stop making him say this shit um Okay, he's very upset and he rips off the wings and then I think Uh cap Fahblah bucky gets back into the fight. I guess his arm's working again Because they do that thing where they just take turns because it's easier to do choreography when it's not three of them. Um And so they just keep hitting each other until they get him locked into a position We're using the thruster and pushing on the arm. They break his arm and take the shield And then uh, he tries to fight back and they knock him out Finally Thank fuck they didn't kill him. I was very gonna be unhappy if that had happened And and what i'm finding from a lot of people just talk like who didn't enjoy this season as a whole Everybody seems to like walker. That's what i'm gathering. Yeah, because walker he feels like he's been victimized by this show Like he's the unfortunate Just I get victim. Is this the word that keeps coming to mind This show did him dirty when he did like almost basically all the right things and this show treated him like shit in a nonsense way It's very depressing. Mm-hmm And also like his whole attitude and approach. I mean except for when he You know later they just have him be dumb You know be kind of evil. I feel like he captures the spirit of captain america better than fucking falcon does in this show Oh, he'll face the baby face and walker was a hero who was abandoned. Yeah, he was uh Like falcon does not carry on the legacy of captain america and any of the ways that matter walker does the Yeah, exactly idiot walker did what was right even if it was difficult he was Legitimately slowed anger he um He had I mean the show tries to really Make him seem like he's unstable, but outside of the one or two times They just try to make that be the case. He really isn't no And uh the fact that he does the truck thing And then willfully gives up the label to go for someone else to me just proves he's in the label It's like that should be his he should be captain america But you know whatever whatever you want to do show you do you um, this is really weird moment by the way We're they win the fight and winter soldier picks up the shield only to drop it next to falcon and leave like angrily I'm not quite sure what they're trying to say is happening here like You annoyed at falcon or something You annoyed that you guys had to do this because if you remember later He says to falcon what happened with walker wasn't your fault, which is hilarious by the way That is fucking hilarious. Yeah Because I don't know if you guys I don't know if you forgot, but there's blood on the shield guys. Oh, yeah, the falcon dressed the bike on the blood off the shield Oh in that case. Yeah, it's got off easier. I need some damn windex This blood off my shield my window shield Now this is important because we've mostly covered this episode already Which is pretty great because we only have one left after that because there's nothing in episode five It's like entirely filler, but there's a couple of bits that are really funny So this is five the boat episode. Yes, it's the boat episode. We can skip over most of it. It's gonna be great so this building housed the uh The the the flag smashes and all of the police are here now Presumably the grc too because we get told by torres that uh, the grc have taken jurisdiction of this area Which is hilarious Why would they do that? Oh because they found the flag smashes Oh, so if walker had simply told the grc. Hey, we found the flag smashes Can we be sent here with fucking backup? They would have agreed they only did this now because apparently it's like a huge international event that he killed a terrorist Nothing of this makes sense. Can you imagine? Oh my god So who wants a world without terrorists? I mean, there'd be nothing to do There is this room that our characters are standing in cap's shield is on the table right there If you remember later the people of the grc are like, hey walker return the shield. It's our property Apparently nobody here realizes the shield is with falcon So they think they hit that he hit it up his arse like what what do they think it is? Yeah, people don't like know where it is and I how do you not know where it is It's the fucking weirdest shit ever for some reason walker didn't tell them who's how if you are walker How do you not tell the grc? Yeah, so I was uh attacked by both captain Stupid fucking falcon and uh, they broke my arm stole the shield beat me to a pulp And like left me for dead so Your beef is with them not me No one cares like he he's in this and he's unshaven his face is all screwed up and he's got a broken arm He's in a sling it's like did no one ask him what the hell happened to yeah, how do you broke your arm? Yeah, because in the footage I saw if you're killing the terrorist your arms seem fine. So what happened? Yeah, it's like maybe there's a story going on there But apparently no one cares and like give us back our shield. It's like dude. You can get a search warrant from my house I don't have the damn thing So this is like this workers moving through this room where the the shield's right there. How do you grc? Fuckers not know it's right there It's so insane and uh, yeah, he's like, oh your wings broke. Do you want him and falcon's like no, you can keep him Yeah, because in the comics, he's falcon. He's gonna be the new falcon I guess when they continue this shit while captain falcon america man with Silly outfit, you know, he's gonna be the new and improved Because you have the shield too so bucky goes and does Is this the last thing that I want to compliment that we haven't actually talked about yet I just want to get to the zemo scene Um a little bit weird that basically bucky goes to the sycovian memorial and zemo's just there It's like was zemo waiting for bucky or was he I assumed that was the case I'm just like why why would he captured escape? Does he want to escape or does he want to be in prison like Does he I assumed he doesn't want to go to prison. He doesn't think that what he did was Like really wrong and maybe well, does he want to do sycovia stuff and be a baron? I'm gonna have to do some major infeering here And I think this is too much credit for the people who write this show, but Could it be possible? Because he does feel sorry for not only t'chaka to t'chaka, but also um bucky himself I think he even apologizes to him and he says I crossed my own name out Could that mean what what he's saying is like this is my Like I'm making amends for me on your behalf. I'm giving myself up for you I'll go to prison because I do deserve it for a couple of the things that I did Would that be it maybe Maybe but again that's given them a lot of credit It really is and that I've never felt that I could infer that much from this shit You know like like on looking into the subtext that much for this terrible show like I don't know Um, but yeah, unfortunately bucky ruins the scene because zemo is doing pretty great He the fact that he said I've crossed my own name out in your book as well It was pretty neat and the fact that he's at the sycovia memorial. It's all great bucky fake kills him for some reason He's like lol. I didn't actually shoot you. I don't know why you'd want to do this Yeah, I don't actually get it. I don't yeah, I don't Nation is at it like I don't know it's weird. It's weird, but then as if that wasn't enough Bucky wants to show zemo and the audience right so when you you know when you shoot a gun, then there's no bullets in it It's not hard to infer. There's no bullets in it Like you're like or you haven't loaded it whatever you've done You've done something that means the gun no longer is able to shoot people when you fucking pull the trigger fine You don't need to pull out the bullets and drop them one by one to the floor to show me that Yeah, I was like, yes, uh bullets are not in the gun. It is such a weird moment I don't know what they were doing. I don't know. He's supposed to represent something But bucky takes the time to like look at all the it's like dude You don't want to pick those up and put them back in like it's a gun It's like yeah, when you load your gun it tends to work better bucky. I don't know if you knew that So, yeah, I was just curious if anybody has any idea why bucky did that A lot of people saying trailer shot it could have been a trailer shot. Yeah I'm thinking maybe this was to show him again and all super soldiers are just mindless killers And you don't you're wrong, bitch That is achieved when you fucking pulled the trigger and didn't chew you didn't need to drop the fucking bullets It's fine. We'll just move right along So the dora belage pick him up and they're taking him to the raft We kind of went over how that makes no sense at all and the tochala himself delivered zemo to the german police So what the hell are they doing when their king did the the other thing? no idea I don't know if the people who wrote this like watch the other movies No, I don't think so either So, um, if I go back a bit because uh, yeah, there's zemo scene. It's more fun to talk about that briefly. Um The walker will just do all the walker stuff in a row. So yeah, he's Um, taken to court and I think they tell him that he's gonna like it's like a forcible retirement less than honorable discharge He won't have any ranks or benefits in retirement. Yeah, no retirement No, nothing none of that nothing because he killed a terrorist in a combat situation Do you guys remember what I thought they might have been trying to do in this scene? Like or what I thought that they might have been trying to do for for walker at this point Do you remember well you you referring to when he says you made me come by that stuff Right. So my theory was hmm Again, it was another thing of like am I giving this show too much credit the idea of You get the soldier you make them fight a stupid war and then you treat them like shit when they get back Throw them away discard them Pin the blame on them when it was kind of your fault that all of this happened That sort of thing. I was wondering if that was what they were going to do That is quite the subject to broach in such little time Like it's like That's not really Approached at all because for one thing. We've never even seen these characters speak before You know like outside of like an introduction So that's the story and so it's just like to throw that in in this scene as a theoretical sort of interpretation To me is just like lame. It's like you got to work a little harder than that Um So, you know try and make your point clear with it because especially with all the stuff We've been over about how much sense it doesn't make Like um at least give us a reason to understand why the this lot of board members would have made this decision But no So, yeah, uh walker also I feel like the more interesting scene would have been whatever Private debriefing meeting they had instead of this public hearing where they clearly already made up their minds Like this can't be the only meeting they've had about it with him, right? Dude, they couldn't they couldn't show us because um, the writers don't know how to make that scene They would have him go you kill the terrorists in public like yes People saw you Yeah, and yeah, they did the best they've got killed tried to kill me Many times they killed Lamar. Uh, torres describes this in the scene He walks in on is that this whole operation is over because he killed a foreign national That's how it's framed What country was this for now? I thought they weren't like part of a country or something. Well This is the thing the best interpretation you could possibly have in terms of the it's like he was there unsanctioned or you know non-contracted from the grc and he killed a person who was a national of A cut tree but it's like, oh wow you've you've really taken every last piece of context away, haven't you? There's nothing left. Good job Uh absurd Man when he says hey, you know the dorma larger nearly killed me And then what are they gonna be like? Oh, you know, whatever. Yeah, but you know, I mean I mean, I can't we've all been there. They're kind they're kind of a bunch of fucking psycho barbarians They've got to kill everyone at one point, right? Yeah, and then uh val I don't really care to talk about it that much. She's not going to be relevant until whatever the next thing she's doing Marvel projects. Yeah, she's like, I'm gonna hire you and he's like, okay, which isn't really relevant to he gets He goes to lemar's parents He tells them that the person who killed lemar was killed in that in the the one he killed and um Because again the dialogue's not particularly good They basically say something like, you know as sad as all this is at least the person who ended his life Got what they deserved and that's great that that person that did that is dead now. Yes, and he's like Yep, that's right And so it's like he clearly he has to kill carly and as much as the dialogue is really shit at least it's like, okay Fine, so he's motivated to his story's not over. He's got to kill carly and that's going to be important for a choice he makes later which It's something and he makes his own shield. That's um, that's it for his storyline In this episode, um, the flag smashes They return to the area that has just been cleared out by the grc To see where everybody's at It is absurd. I don't know what the fuck they were thinking And this is funny thing where they read a poster where it's like, oh, they've been charged with aiding and abetting criminals And she's like, oh my god. It's like that that is. Yeah That's literally what they did. That's why you came back here. You guys have trouble with definitions huh Yeah, and then uh, there's this moment and I hate it where she says how many more lives Do we have to lose before they'll like allow us to live in this world? It's like Possibly be saying this. Can you spoil little shit? Well, you just want to be like, when will you stop beating people alive? I don't know These are questions. We just want to have ads now. I feel like this Needs to be a little bit of a give and take here, you know It may be compromised. Maybe stop the killing of people and then we'll see you about that Oh Then we have the the whole The scene where uh, isaias says no self-respecting black man would ever be captain america and they would never accept a black captain america Yay. Yay. Yay There's a bazillion things that go against this I love I love and by love. I mean hate how the show thinks that Literally every black american is anti america They act like they all like every single black american hates america. I I don't know why Well, it's insane. Look isaias has his reasons. Okay, america were really mean to him as much as that whole history was confusing as hell And didn't really match anything It's not like they crafted this angry black man who fucking hates america for its racism out of nowhere That would be ridiculous and I can't believe you even Now you should have cut this whole plot line out just cut the whole fucking thing out It's too fucking much to watch. You're just embarrassed on behalf of the people who wrote this, uh So, yeah, um, he's like I think he just tells him the whole history. I really I think we went over this I don't give a fuck we're moving through it's going we're going great. It's such a such a pace Then we get the whole the boat gets fixed. Woohoo. We can skip all the way over to when Oh, yeah, Sharon's the power broker again. I really don't care they talk about Um, this this is the scene the a couple people were sharing It's like simultaneously really good dialogue and then horrible dialogue Of course, I'm gunning for horrible because it's just completely out of character and also makes no sense Um, bucky says that steve and and himself they didn't know what it meant to hand this shield to a black man Had the fucking this stupid show They got a little a little fucking slave apologizing for being white It is whiteness. I think people want us to mention. I'm patriot by the way. Yes. I we've we've got over I am patriot I'm patriot as Iron Man 3. It's when the government made their own little superhero with rhodi That would installs and stripes called the iron patriot The show kind of wants to ignore that. Okay, that gets in the way because I want to ignore all the history of this universe while creating brand new history Yeah, we'll say how bad america is and how much they hate black people The social commentary comes first before world building before characters before continuity Literary comes before everything um The funny thing is the the the discussion online. There was this like fucking tornado of you don't get it idiots Being the iron patriot doesn't really matter. It's the the moniker of captain america That is like entirely different from iron patriot Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. So You you don't think about that Somebody left me somebody left me a comment saying well now it's the iron patriot's not the same as captain america Prop because iron patriot uses like mindless propaganda. Oh, well guess fucking why? Captain america The most propagandist of all the MCU heroes this is origin Uh, but whatever where I was going with this was that was only episode five was out Right, so that's all they had to work with was arguing. It's not about like the stars and stripes It's about the name captain america being attached to a black person. It's not iron Nothing like that and then literally in his speech in episode six. He's like i'm a black man in stars and stripes. It's like, oh I guess it's more about the stars and stripes And they really did forget iron patriot, which I don't blame them Everyone likes to forget iron man three to seven degree, but you can't it's part of the history um Wasn't the president locked inside the iron patriot suit at one point as well Yep, rody saved his life Yeah, this is the air force one speaking of presidents You know, I'm going with that Speaking of precedents doesn't the show doesn't care about any precedents that's been set Uh, more so is gunning for obama. Mr. Uh, isiah. Do you know about obama? Well, I guess obama doesn't exist in the mcu Maybe not Maybe not well right because iron man three set in 2013 and Well, because obama's been president basically since the mcu began Oh, someone wanted me to mention don't forget iron patriot was also given the job of personally protecting the president That's yeah Again history doesn't matter sorry show you've got no legs to stand on you're done This is like you're desperate, but you can't go and make your own little indie movie about all this bullshit You can't do it in the mcu Well captain america four Yeah Yeah, the same writer the same guy responsible for this sewage is going to be doing captain america four Yay yay Um, so that's the the falcon side of it. Uh, the bucky side is falcon just says Hey, you know all that amending you're doing It's actually avenging and remember that conversation eight hours ago that we had about that woman that he fucked up in the opening episode That's what falcons referring to because we have no other references And then he's like, you know, there's probably it's so cringe It's like oh mr. Nakajima's son died and he'd really like to know why he died He says that explicitly and then falcon's like hey I wonder if there's someone in that book like a name like a person Who could be made to feel a bit better? Maybe could be made to feel as though they have closure with information you have I don't know. Maybe In the audience like there there's literally a fucking drooling five-year-old in the audience. It's like wait nakajima I figured it out I know Oh, look, we're in cooperation And then The one thing they could do to claw it back is like to have that scene be very very Meaningful at least like two or three minutes. Please do a mic flanigan. Give me a monologue. Please It's like Hey, I killed you son. That wasn't really mean though. I was like forced to why'd you do it? I wouldn't even mind if they use the same piano music. God. Okay. Yeah, go for it Um, yeah, he's like killed him. Why'd you do it? Oh, I didn't do it on purpose. I was forced to it was really sad I'm sorry. Oh man. That sucks. Bye That's it and uh bucky's ark is complete What a joke Yep And yeah, um, and then so during the scene falcon tosses the uh, the shield four times very very accurately including bouncing between like Three trees before heading back to the exact point you wanted it to I was hoping you'd bring that up. So that's pretty neat, huh? Well before we get to the thing that you know, I'm getting to um, isn't it weird that everyone can use the shield perfectly? That's weird. Yeah The shield is basically magic at this point. It's just magic I thought the canonical reason for cap is that he's a perfect shot because of the serum. Yep. That's what I thought That's what I assumed. Yeah, because that was the only thing that even begins to approach making sense in some way Um, yeah, you can anybody can just throw it and it's perfect. It bounces off things perfectly and comes back and you can catch it It's perfect until you need to do the unironic training montage so What's really funny is I think we talked about this when I was watching it with you guys But I was like, do you think initially his montage was supposed to be before this conversation or something like that? I'm thinking maybe yeah And they moved it around maybe this was the end of the montage like the montage happens and then this scene happens Always where he's out here wrapping up his training and bucky shows up. Yeah or something But they were like, hey, remember how we fucking beat up walker that was That's pretty fucked up. Yeah, I think we're the baddies. I mean Yeah, I mean the scene where I mean the scene where uh, bucky's apologizing for his whiteness does seem a bit out of place The weight is so I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't And yeah, the probably it probably is like the end of the montage or something because it just seems out of place It would just seemed really like a dumbass move you have him nail it over and over and over again But then the montage begins with him just doing simple throws and failing Look look at this Look at this throw. It's just like what are you doing? Why are you fucking that up so much compared to the all the other ones you did? What's happening? Yeah, so to address it probably it's so inept. It's the most inept editing like I Who the fuck did that? I don't know We have the so the collection of scenes involve him throwing the shield and it either bouncing wrong or him failing to catch it Yeah, I'm running gradually him running and getting tired from running, right? We're talking about all of the initial starts him doing press-ups and sweating a whole bunch being like, whoo Yeah, these these push-ups are hard And then by the time we get to the end he's he's running real good. No stops. He's throwing that shield It is a fucking joke. What were you thinking? This is so embarrassing It's Parityed like 50 years Southpawg was parodying this in the early 2000s What are you doing? Also weird as well as when this started up and we were all sort of laughing at it When we were first watching this I'm pretty sure I was like, wait, isn't this just standard training for him? Wouldn't he need to do all of these other things anyway because he's falcon like what it's like Oh, he's he's doing a lot of jogging now. It's like what what why wouldn't he do that anyway? Why why is that special like what? Now he's back in the fight It's just a huge because he doesn't need a training montage. He's already pretty good at fighting people. Yep Yeah, and the plot takes care of the rest I just love that he goes from throwing the shield so perfectly to like, oh, I don't know what I'm doing Oh, no, I'm throwing it all kinds of crazy things That's so embarrassing Always fade out in a montage. Wait, does this fade out? It feels like my time has passed Actually now I've had a thought so how long is it safe to assume that it's been since carly escaped and decided to go to new york Uh, well, so there's a whole gap here That's pretty big and we can do whatever we want with it because of the stupid montage Like you whatever time you needed to pass has passed basically But like surely it would take more than a week to get really good at throwing that thing Oh, well, no, because it's actually quite simple. He's this is the problem Every remember walker was just tossing around with ease already too. Like Well, but I guess it's oh, yeah, because how long did he get to spend training with that? How about time calling the donations couldn't have been very long could it A week less than a week probably like a few days Watching the shield fly through the air like it really is just flat out magic Yes It like goes up and it goes back down stays level and it goes back and it sticks to your arm and it It never loses velocity. It doesn't slow down over time I thought we had a deal with the the mcu that only cap could do it, but they lied to us They welched on the deal like it should have been just cap and any other serum people or I'll allow that too, but no How does the shield stick to his arm anyway? So this is the other bullshit This is the other part of it that's bullshit, right? I think it's sort of rags about this the the way you would try to make this work is like as it's coming towards you It's gonna like, hmm Maybe if you had attached to your forearm some kind of magnetic device that attaches to the inner part of the shield Meaning at any point in the spin it would be able to connect back and you'd have a pretty powerful magnet as well um, that's something if you have two straps That means the majority of the time you will not be able to grab that as it comes back Imagine if you caught that wrong and it jars your fingers that'd be hell I want to go to basketball the wrong way and that's swallow up my finger for two weeks Um, imagine if that thing hit you with your fingers or those fingers are covered off Several people are like, well, it's like they do that at age of ultra moolers like that's preference That's you got it. You got the joke. That's the joke. Oh my god Uh, I've have we talked about that before I'm not quite sure why they dropped it I felt that it actually made the shield a little bit more believable in terms of how it connects back. Um I don't know if there's anything else to say on that It's just like all right, then Um, you could even have kept the straps if you really want them just make it also mechan uh magnetic Oh, I haven't played basketball in years. This was oh man. Oh, I don't know if I want to tell the story It's still a little traumatic of how I jarred my finger on Christmas eve and then the next day. I've got a playstation 3 And so I have no idea where this story just came from, but you know what? Just somebody was asking about play basketball But no, all right I just felt like a non sequitur from a non sequitur to explain it Somebody in chat was like, oh a friggy plays basketball. I need to clarify that. I don't but yeah Fringy ruined his finger on Christmas. That is exactly what happened I was playing Little Big Planet, which I got for ps3 and my finger really hurt every time I hit down on r2 It was it was hell But I pushed through to play Little Big Planet because And so Fringy blew up a building with many people in it and he said the violence is the only thing these people understand I said no such thing Because he was very upset at what had happened to him and he was he was very angry and he felt like the g rc was responsible The g rc was responsible for me jarring my finger Basketball g rc plot six months ago. They said they would give me a new finger Dothan That gave me nothing. I wanted an adamantium finger because I'm a gamer Oh Anyway, the uh the the bat rock is back and he provides weapons to the stupid flag smashes And again this this show it just it is allergic to making sense He unloads his arsenal to them in a fucking park. He's just like hey, by the way all your weapons. It's like what Guys go inside somewhere and as a viewer you might be like Yeah, why did they do this? That seems dumb. It's like well because they needed a payoff They needed the payoff of who activated her phone message the thing and then everyone in the park stands up and starts moving to order That was the payoff they wanted so But they could have looked out a window and seen that no Yes, no stop it. Yeah Pulse 9 11 new york, this would totally be normal Oh, it's just they're all so stupid great suspicion. They're all smiling and they're all like, uh, it's gonna be great Oh, do you remember as well the stupid australian guy is like wait, we're dealing with criminals now like You got a criminal looking right at you you fucking idiot It is so beyond I literally learned very good at their jobs in this universe. How are they this naive? How yeah, that's that's sort of what I meant earlier by like I don't understand what they are and aren't opposed to because she's already killed people at this point But like wait a minute we're working with criminals wait with a bank what? nonsense All right Which I think does that push us to the end all this left is sorry. I kind of skipped over it Bucky asked wakanda to make a vibranium captain america falcon suit and they agreed Why First of all if you watch the cat of the black panther movie they would fucking hate the concept of captain america They would hate him They're like y'all with your stupid colonialism, which by the way, we never do and would never do don't help And you just don't don't think about it too much. Okay Um, but they they hate everything to do with all they call every white person in wakanda colonizer Like that's their nickname for white people so I'm sorry. You guys are so shit and easy to colonize. I mean, what do you want me to apologize for? I just don't think I should be judged for seeing that patch of grass and being like Invent a wheel or something. I mean come on But put my pigs on this bit of bit of grass like you colonizing the grass Well, I don't know. Nobody else is using it. It's like is it okay if no one else is using it? I hope so um So I don't think they would like captain america at all And then the idea that they like could you make a captain america suit and provide it to us? Yeah, that's what happened. I don't think so the wakandas would be like, no, you're right No, they won't even provide more than one black panther suit to their people Yeah The the smartest They don't have more the what a stupid society like you have this Uh, whatever stupid Absolutely right Why the fuck would we do that colonizer? Why? You know how like you have this really badass suit Well, you had a really good one until you made one that could be disabled unlike that other one Which was just completely perfect the black panther Civil war suit is way better But you know, it would still be really useful. Imagine if the dora malage had black panther suits. It's over Yeah, they're already perfect That's true. It'd be perfect. What good would come from being impossible to have your throat slit so I had stuff thrown at your shop Oh, it's so bloody stupid All right, but yeah, just just to make sure everyone heard that right They are not willing to give the suits to anyone other than their king But also captain america Why is there only one iron man suit? Um, I thought we talked about this earlier today fellas Yeah, I guess they might have missed that part So, uh, the new super bright Terrible-looking falcon captain america suit that's made of vibranium well The wings obviously we all agree the wings are right. I don't think there's any trouble there Which is already enough for me to be critical of the crazy people at wakanda that they would give that much titanium A vibranium suit like stuff to a randy instead of their own people. That is insane Um, and it just wouldn't happen It was just an excuse for them to get a new suit because they had no other way of justifying it as for whether or not the suit itself well We'll get to that actually it's going to be relevant in episode six that we're heading to right now The only other thing to say is that they gave falcon a suit that was activated by his thumbprint. How do they have that? Oh, dude, imagine, but well, here's something that they have jurisdiction in his house and they snuck in Here's something to think about I don't know if I was if I was uh, sam, but I would just trust them. What if they put like a failsafe in my suit? Well, they probably did but it's better. I suppose you would wear it rather than not, right? Oh, sure, but I mean like what if I was flying and they're like It's like and then disabled the wings Well, it's the door of melange. They can be trusted. They would never do anything wrong Yeah That's kind of you got a good point there kind of offended that you didn't play otherwise, but you know, you do you I guess jeez um I we skipped over all the stupid falcon family stuff because it's all worthless just fyi We're gonna get right into episode six It's kind of Tighten stuff. Well, it's like unfortunately his suit might be like bucky's arm where if it just gets like touched the wrong way It just falls off Seems like a bit of an oversight, but all right No, they poked it in a really specific way. Okay, right? Nobody's ever figured out if you just touch it. It just comes off So this episode is really bad. Um, I thought I'd make that clear just in case there was any assumption as to otherwise Um, and it just again because the show can't control itself. It goes. It's really bad immediately. So the setup I suppose Is that the building where the grc are like Headquarters are they're voting on the patch Bill or policy and whatever and that's going to do the thing with the borders The the flag of smashers hate that they're like, oh, that's real bad But their plan and this is genius by the way Their plan is to kidnap all of the grc board members and hold them hostage and say hey Don't do the patch thing. Okay You know something bad will happen to these guys otherwise That's not going to do shit. In fact, that's probably not going to make people be like, oh, yeah, okay. We will vote no give them back Okay, now vote yes Um, and if not, you'll just be like wait, are you guys just going to hold on to these people and demand that we do anything You demand publicly You're like really bad people I just want you to know that And the whole world is going to be against you. This is not a thing you get away with Like threatening innocent people's lives And like phoning the government being like enact this policy, please. Otherwise, I'll kill this woman. All right, and do it Oh, so they do all those things and you just label them a terrorist. I know crazy absolutely nuts Wow, just because they use violence Political means what a will that we are in So that's going on at the same time falcon bucky And walker Are all heading to this area because they have in different ways figured out that this is where all the shit's going to go down It's funny. I think for falcon, um, he's got his suit and he's just sitting in his house and then, uh, Torres calls him and he's like, hey, been keeping an eye on those signals Uh, there's one in new york city Go Okay So shit the plot fairy just being like, hey, it's time to go. You've done your montage. You've talked to your family It's time for the end I can't remember. I think walker just shows up. And so the first question that's on everyone's minds is when all this chaos is taking place Can you think of any new york-based superheroes that would be invested in possibly helping? And uh, for those wondering this takes place two months before far from home Mm-hmm. So he is in new york city doing stuff Fortunately, maybe he's sleeping I just get sleep He's on a school trip again. Mm-hmm Someone said roadie. That's a good shout as well You think rodeo got involved Uh, dog. The strange thing that rodeo would be very well. Oh, yeah, dr. Strange. Well, maybe oh, I have no one What about the police? No No, no, no, no, no What about the crows? Are the crows here? Are the crows? Well, honestly, you know what I trust the crows over some of these guys. Fuck yeah The crook Jacob get him to come in and save the day. I would watch the shit out of him shot got a carly to death Falcon suit he'll kick everybody's arses Oh, imagine he shot carly through the head of the desert eagle Can shoot through anything including your thick skull So Yeah, all of us wiped out. Sorry guys. No spooderman even though totally would be a spooderman with no spooderman And yeah, I guess That's about it for all of the players We've got the grc Like I said board members and then there's the the police the nypd are mainly Around feel like as a force for you know trying to stop the evil people Unfortunately the flag smashes have infiltrated. There's a whole bunch of them that are posing as nypd And I'm not even 100% clear on how they managed to do that, but they did that um And the episode opens because I was I was gonna mention another player, but I was like no no I'll let her introduce herself so Bucky's walking into the the place he needs to go and this guy right here is like hey You're supposed to be here and then Bucky's like, huh? Shins around Um, I'm gonna have to pause and copy right even it's a glitch vlc help me out And so immediately takes off her mask and covering to reveal its Sharon Carter That is so question Lot of questions If you have a disguise in order to prevent yourself from being captured as you are wanted still in america Why would you take it off? You dumb ass So the actress can act Yeah, basically it's so that the actress can be in the scene because There are and also just in general why you're not wearing this all the time. We talked about this earlier But if you have this tech, you're not a fugitive. Well, what's funny is math Like the other movies man when her soldier introduces them and it's like dude this tech. Yeah, it's almost like which a soldier, man God damn My friend So, uh, she She lampshades it. She says, oh, don't worry. No one here is looking for me Wait It's such a confused. It's like, wait, wait, wait, why were you wearing it? That if you're so sure that no one's looking for you, shut up Well, you just full of shit. You just want to have the fun little reveal I hate the show so much that she was wanted and she would be arrested as soon as she hit american soil She fucking said that nobody here is looking for okay. They're all too busy with the stupid flag smashes. It's gonna be fine. Shut up It's not like they're looking for people who are criminals in this place Not like she's well known. It's fine. It's fine. And so yeah, they uh, they're just talking about how they're gonna be doing doing the big old plan I Like it looks like I mean this episode starts and already you're like, ah my head Stop I need a break. Can you just make something happen? That's normal Thank you Um, so they gas the room that all of the board members are in and the idea is to essentially get them to Evacuate into vehicles That's what they want but um It's kind of weird. This escape plane is bizarre. It's kind of weird like this. There's a flag smash that turns up Uh before they even do all of that And falcon knocks him out It's like wait, what was that flag smash is supposed to be doing because if the plan is to get them into the vehicles Then all you're doing is just getting in the way, right? Yeah, oh no I don't know why he's there, but it's like well falcon gets to beat him up. You're like, yeah I guess that's why he was there And so yeah, the evacuation plan begins unfortunately for falcon Batrock is here and attacks him as we get to mini boss fight and the reason this is happening is because we needed to Delay the shit out of falcon before he can prevent the rest of the episode from happening Um, you need you need the helicopter chase and you can only have that if the helicopter gets out because he has no Reason to fight batrock. He can just leave he could just fly away at any time But he chooses to fight. You know what else is pretty dumb. Evan is He's just a guy, right? Yeah, he's just a guy and he wants falcon dead desperate to kill him Desperate and he's like a huge he's into all kinds of weaponry Sells it on all kinds of markets all about that most in every life Doesn't have a gun or a knife Come on mauler. He wanted you wanted to fight him. You wanted to beat him with his fist make it hurt, you know On average I'm more I'm more heavily armed than this guy is He's the fucking briefcase he gave the flag smashes was filled with like grenades machine guns Just everything you'd ever need he's like well falcon He's got the shield the vibratium wigs the suit all kinds of technology. I got my fists like all right confidence Yeah, I mean he's just he he reckons he can pull it off. So maybe he can That's a kick really good. He'll be fine Let me get some really weird shit happening. So they're all heading down the stairs and they're gonna get into vehicles That's the plan now Sharon and uh Bucky as they were walking into the The complex they go they're like, oh no and there's this implication that they sort of realize like oh the evacuation's already started I guess it's like oh And bucky like I said, I don't know I almost want to watch it in slow motion like the whole episode because I'm really not sure what they're trying to tell me Bucky is like well, that's one of them And we we get to look at the big dude of the flag smashes. He's like he's like a bit of a chongas It's like wait, you know that guy's a flag smasher Because he's dressed up in like police gear like Did I miss something? I'm like I feel like I'm missing information because bucky just points to him He's like, yep, that's one of them I guess he recognizes him from when they've had interactions in some way shape or form before But we've never seen this guy before Well, we've seen him before but I don't think we've ever seen him in any of the action scenes He's never been he's never interacted with bucky in any way as far as I'm aware But yeah bucky's just like yep, that's one of them. It's like oh Go get him Like and then Sharon follows that guy and he follows the people down to some stairs to get to the vehicle All right, you got a I needed a picture this in your head because this is going to get really fucking strange Sharon And bucky are in the entrance to the building She follows fat guy out of building down the stairs to the vehicles bucky is supposed to get down there too He's supposed to stop the vehicles too like that's Part of the evacuation plan But he doesn't go with her He goes a different way down there and if you remember Sharon is like wow bucky You had one job Which was to get down here with me that you went a different way to me to go because you had to take a phone call from carly It is like like my brain can't handle it. I'm like what what in the world? What is everyone doing? Where is everyone going? and so The best I can come up with is bucky was like I'm going to go down one set of staircase You go down the other one with the fat guy, okay, and then we'll meet at the bottom But it's like why would you do that? Well, it would be the reason for that at all But then of course he gets distracted by being called by carly How would that distract you? Why would you even accept the call? Try to save people's lives And you're also really cool about mobile phones is you can walk while talking on him. He doesn't do that though I don't I don't think that's true I Failed to trust you. I know what a lie is moller It's very confusing all of this is right and and it's so funny as well the way he gets the call Some woman just walks up to him goes. It's carly Oh, so are you a flex? Do I need to kill you? Yeah, like are you evil? He doesn't care He's just like oh, thanks for the phone. See as if it's his fucking secretary or something It would have been hilarious if she offered the phone and he just kicked her in the face Oh, I would have loved it. And yeah, picking up by dropping off So remember This job is protect the people that are about to be killed Oh, by the way, you can have a chat with carly if you want No Protect the people bucky. You useless idiot But yeah, he has a chill chat with it. Look at him. He's just casually walking around like Yeah, yeah, how you doing? Like you should be rushing but okay And then the line that I think blew up a couple of people's brains when she says to bucky to bucky bonds Have you ever fought for something that's more than just for yourself? Good god, there's so many examples and it's just like wow Why would you say this to him? She's so naive it's just it's like her defining characteristic It's just like I wish he would just be like like you're really young. Do you know what world war two is? Have you ever heard of that? Have you ever seen any memes that talk about hitler? Oh Absolutely horrible to listen to like why did they do this? Yeah, um, so it gets a little bit weirder because he basically misses all of this that happens down here Uh, he's out because he's on a phone call, you know Even when you're on a phone call you there's some stuff you're gonna miss. I think that's fair Sharon on the other hand She's very much invested in defeating the flag smashes So she follows chungus down and she watches as he attaches the locks to the vans and does nothing When everybody in this area is actually grc friendly except the chungus Yeah, and they're just right there. Yep. I mean this this plan doesn't work if one of them Just like sees him. Yep Like it's crazy. He's just right there in front of everybody and he puts these devices on and they lock and make a noise And everything yeah, well right it's even worse because Sharon's watching him do it and she doesn't do anything She's like Hey, that guy's putting some shit in that thing. Yeah, stop him and then you know, even if he's a super soldier It's like well, they all have guns so you're going down chungus There's nothing to be like you'll of course have like four health bars because he's a fat super soldier But it's gonna he's gonna die eventually Um And yeah, nobody notices him putting the locks on Sharon doesn't seem to give a shit And it's funny because once everyone leaves she belts him Yeah, yeah, he dies He he died fighting for the cause he believed him, but he doesn't get carried gracefully Well, you'd be too ugly. He'd be all flashy and gross Imagine if like somebody else did the locks. They're like, no, I got this buddy I guess that's it for your plan Dude, I like the idea that you're like, I'll do it. He just looks you with a frown. You're like, I'll do it Stop it. Go away. He's just like No, I have to I need to Locking is my thing And yeah, uh Carly almost implies on the call Once she's got such a smug attitude talking to bucky It's too hard for me to watch like you're talking to somebody who has like a hundred years of knowledge and experience of this world And you're like a five-year-old and you're telling him like what he should do Oh Stop it And yeah, she like hangs up with a sort of a sense of like ha ha I've kind of delayed you like that was her plan and it's just frustrating to watch because like there was no trickery in the conversation She's just an ass That's it. And yeah, bucky misses all of this and uh Sharon is like wow idiot. You missed all of this I was like, you didn't do anything. You were here. You just watched it all happen And he doesn't question that by the way. He's like, yeah, sorry. I missed it But what was the plan you were gonna both be there and then do stuff? It's like, oh Frustrating to watch Yeah, she melts fat man and bucky races on out after the uh the armored trucks I think we just uh, oh, yeah for people wondering here is show the melting It was weird man when I saw this I didn't even know how to how to feel Yeah, I I thought it was a tracking device at first I wouldn't have guessed it was an acid gas bomb. It's weird that I I almost would have accepted a bomb before watching him melt Yeah, it's like it's like the shamblers from The Last of Us 2 where it's like, ah, it's like melting the skin It's like damn Sharon. It's yeah, holy crap And what's interesting right is I thought it might have been an opportunity to show that she's Ooh, she's she's a bit, you know, and and we should be careful that this is not the Sharon Carter that we know And she says I took care of one of them and falcon says how And I was like, ah see she can lie. She didn't melt him. She did blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, whatever She she knocked him out, but she goes no she explains. It's like I use the gas. That's like an acid. She's dead. It's like Oh All right And bucky says what like fuck all He's just like A good one um Yeah, so Falcon is delayed just an oh Do you guys remember? Remember the shield that can basically it can tank a helicopter it can chop off trees But if it has to battle the infamous chair well That chair gets it plastic chair Convention seating is I really just kicks the chair too like that would hurt like a dish This entire fight was so frustrating to watch him like Sam just fly away He doesn't even throw anything just take him out with your wings instantly hit him with your wings Dude watch the uh watch the trajectory of the shield that wasn't gonna hit bat rock. Let's just go in somewhere else Oh my god, it's so stupid If flipping that was right before he kicks it Oh So stupid I do like the idea that that shield is strong enough to hit the side of like a An Apache helicopter and break the door off, but it's too weak to go through a simple plastic chair Uh is stopped by a chair Also, like how awkward this goes so you have falcon throws it and then like bat rock sees that and reacts by kicking the chair I mean, it's like you've already run out of time moving out of the way It's just too late. The shield's already gonna reach you by the time you go to kick the fucking chair No, he's he's clever. He thinks that the best way to stop the shield is to kick a chair at it I like this whole why didn't you just move out of the way? It wouldn't look as cool to kick a chair at the I'm dodging I have eye frames It can cherish it. I'm like see if it can kill Wait, I just realized just The chair's not there in the in what he rolls. You see the chair's not there And then it just is Oh The universe can sense that what he needs was a chair He spawned a chair because he needed one John they're like, wait, what does he do now? He's dead. Oh, no chair If you believe you will have everything It's suddenly a chair appears It's one of those middle school assembly chairs You can take it to all of your outdoor and indoor meetings. I want to see captain chair the man who throws chairs He runs around and throws chairs at people Dude That right angle of his legs. Damn Nicely done Because that is a man's kick right there. Okay, you have to reach that level. Oh such incredible talent Um, and yeah, it's only once you watch it enough times that you realize it's a magic chair. It's pretty cool. I will say Who knew that they had magic? What else are they hoarding here at this place? They're hoarding food and magic chairs. Isn't it just it looks like there's a can on the floor You see that where the magic chair will be. Do you think it's a pokeball and it's going to release the chair? Do you think that's a marker that they left for knowing where the chair's supposed to be where the chair will be? What is that ball? It's the pokeball that the chair's spawned out of it's like Oh my god, was he trying to summon what he was trying to summon chair is odd. Yeah Now see the look at the ball there look at the ball Is that a marker for his foot where his foot needs to be? What the hell is that bowl? Now I want to watch the episode to see if the ball is This ball Pull it out because you don't use like balls for actors marks. He used tape on the ground. Yeah But also the ball is in both shots. It's in the shot where there's no Why would you not just have the chair there? Yeah, did they forget? They're like, you see I ask all the time. Why didn't they just do this thing and and yet? So I don't what is that ball and why was his foot so close to it? Like I'm trying to think what the ball is that like a like a is it like a a grenade or something that Chair grenade used a chair grenade like you throw it it turns into what it makes a chair up here It's the green goblin Chair will read chair will return it a veggies five. Yeah legitimately curious what the fuck that chair is or what that I know I know what chairs are I'm really confused because I pulled up a prior shot and the ball is still there the the ball is there Nobody knows what's happening like it's there when uh when he finally gets the upper hand on uh on on bat rock He the ball is still there Oh Maybe it could it be that the the the secret ball is like one of the chair wheels from the chairs over to the right Yeah, maybe I think so like the wheel of yeah chairs Oh, it might have been a chair, but the chairs. Oh, it might have maybe It held secret magic about how to I don't know turn everything What is the power stone in there? Oh, maybe it is. Yeah, maybe that was where uh that was where hulk returned it. Oh wait. No, it was steve returned it I really do love the idea the universe sported with chairs like quickly. He's gonna throw the shield at you use this And who knew who knew And see falcons face he's like you can spawn chairs that is fucking incredible Oh Cinema Cinema so They do a little fight and uh falcon Fine, this funny because like um if he had defeated bat rock like completely and then went for the helicopter You could at least make the argument that he wanted to get rid of him first whatever reason But no, he just knocks him and then leaves Um, and it's like, why didn't you do that fucking 10 minutes ago ass He's so annoying about it your job Oh, by the way really weird moment from falcon, um When their fight begins He says something like, uh, you know, you've cost me so much money bat rock and then falcon's like Oh, yeah, because you could have bought some baguettes with it Stupid french So not not only is a really shit joke, but secondly it's like oh falcon you got him for the stereotypes Hmm Feels a little bit weird, but dude, but you know you do you I guess Uh Like genuinely I'm more offended by how shit the joke was I'm just like can you please work a little bit harder? Someone said marvel quips. It's like if we really got to that point now We're just like that's just marvel's attempt at humor. They're like, oh, yeah, you're french fucker And listen, I'm all for making fun of the french But at least be clever about it. Please. Yeah Uh, so next point of interest, um, the helicopter has just gotten off the helipad when falcon's arriving And so he's like, ah, I'll show falcon by nose diving um If you're gonna nose dive in a helicopter, right? I know this at least in pop from video games It's gonna be tough to pull that bitch up before it's gonna fucking crash Uh They're they're a bit of a thing, but of course we've got to be epic And so he pulls it up last minute and it just sort of comes up real quick. It's like Nah You crash that. Sorry. I don't believe that. Yeah Um gravity is going to love you in that moment. It's like, yeah, come down, buddy Right down and then the helicopter's like, actually I don't want to crash gravity's like, yeah, that's nice Going down down down down This helicopter thing lasts way longer than it should and it's really awkward because basically he's trying to find a way To get rid of the pilot while saving all of the people in the helicopter because they're hostages. It's like, hmm I have no idea. Um an nypd helicopter gets caught in the fray and before it can crash He has red wing blast open the door attach a wire to the pilot and pull him out straight away to safety He's like, oh Why don't you do that with a terrorist? Yeah, I All right Maybe he was maybe he only had one it was like That would he Hmm Oh, he does the stupid thing from episode one at least they keep it in character His first decision with the helicopter is to climb onto it and poke his head into the cockpit Just like it seems dumb because of the deadly spinning blades But also that there is a terrorist in there with a gun and he ends up trying to shoot him. It's like, ah, damn it I What what are the odds? I thought poking my head into the cockpit was just the way forward, but no Uh, it doesn't quite work out. So he gets shot at and he's like, oh, jeez Uh, and then he gets hit by the wings of the helicopter and almost dragged into the water because again falcons very incompetent and we have to extend this fight for as long as possible because This episode has to have loads of action in it. It's really It's the finale Yeah And so for anybody who may have thought well, you wouldn't want to pull the pilot out because then nobody could pilot Right away. He has everyone in the in the area scanned for who is a pilot and it turns out one of the hostages is a pilot so Yeah, just you just have this has that tech Scan for who's a pilot? Scan their faces for pilot licenses. Honestly, it's worse than that. Do they have a look of a pilot on it? Do they look like a wingman a top gun? Oh, you can't say wingman. That's offensive. That's offensive It's honestly worse than that. He can basically like scan her for all of her details at will like oh That's not good. Hmm. I don't know. I like you could do that falcon. He's like, no, it's okay. I'm a hero I'm not so sure you are a hero Doja ding dongs they think they're heroes Get away with it Hey, that's the most respect they deserve I would say Yeah, we're more so already provided than they should have So, yeah, um, it pulls up Like a crazy amount of photo album including pictures of her when she's like a kid Can you not that's really weird. It is really weird. Oh, it's like what insight was doing in Winter Soldier It's like How much information does he have access to it's like it focuses on the the military ones. It's like Yeah, I guess you search for her being a pilot, but like what do you have access to buddy? Oh, look at what it says up there passing personnel I don't know if that says insert But um using the philippine air force personnel file matching search criteria VRF vfr qualification wing Yeah, just find out everything you want nationality consultant diplomat advisor aviation safety officer course This feels weird Yeah, he's served active duty as a captain from 89 to 93 She was a reserve lieutenant colonel. He like cool I guess I know all of this about you now I bet if Walker had this tech he'd be maligned as a villain, but All right, what I do like is just his face and I feel like this would be her reaction to all of this happening No one kind of tells no I use Imagine he wanted to come across as normal and he just contacts and goes so Are you like a pilot? Like I'm just asking a random question. I I just need to know if anyone is a pilot It's not that I've searched all of your private information or anything. Well You know what I needed it to save the day seriously. Yeah, you just sounded really pilot. You seemed really piloty I just knew you had to be the one I'm from the air force. We can I could I can tell remember um The there's a lot of Stuff like right as a fucking competent where they do this it's like a casual power They need it in the moment. It's like, oh my god, the implications of this and it's like no no fine It's fine Don't think about it. We just do It's like, yeah, you probably shouldn't have just you should have done this at all Maybe you should have had a falcon go. Oh, I know here. She's blah blah blah. She's a trained pilot I know this because I pay attention to stuff to do with piloting instead of Um Yeah, so the plan isn't again like it takes some fucking ages to engage with it But it's just yank the guy out with red wing And then get her to pilot it and it's not for another like 10 minutes until you actually manage to pull that off That's not what he even does though. No, it's not Yeah, it's even crazier than that Because he's a weirdo, uh You have to make it epic and different stuff But um, yeah, we get this moment. We've kind of talked about it before but it's the first time We basically all of them are like, oh carly's insane. We made a huge mistake following her. Hmm We should do something there Carly basically says Hey, if we don't get to threaten to kill the hostages, we'll just kill them That's good enough because it'll send the message And they're all like, oh They give her a look, but then they follow her anyways like Also, we might not survive, but you know the movement will so and they're like I don't know about that. It's really weird and uh, she just goes one willed One willed dot a dot one willed they're like One people Um, and yeah, I think that scene would have been way better if it had meant as a setup for the fact that they were going to actually turn on it But they just don't they just commit to be evil Bit weird, which makes me wonder what the point of that scene was To let like I said, uh, I can't remember if you were here or not But I was just like was that just their way of trying to signal to the audience that yes The show is condemning her actions. We do think she's a bit of a weirdo. We've had her Oh horse even judge it. Okay Like oh, okay. Well, it's weird because there's several scenes like that. Some are more subtle than others But it's like they keep doing that thing. So it's like It feels like set up for a payoff, but it's all just set up. So it's like, oh We're gonna get any resolution. I guess not And you kind of you could feel a little bit bad of the fact that they're blown up But it's just like well, you guys kind of committed to being evil You kind of it's like you're worse than carly because you saw that it was evil But then you did it anyway. Anyway, like you didn't even really believe in it, but you just still did Yeah, finalists. Um, then comes this legendary bit. I guess I'll just play it and uh Well, see what everyone thinks boom opinions Sorry say that one more time Uh, I'm playing this Oh Oh, yeah, oh we were talking about this sir. Yeah, we this was the thing we yeah, this is fucking nonsense and he should be dead Wait, I'm sorry rags which wing which part of the Which part of the 10 million times he should have been dead you talking about right like I can't tell the difference anymore Oh, this the latest the the latest one So For those he just he also just lets it crash straight into them. Yep So cutting out the people at risk, which is great. Yeah, love it Well, I shouldn't have to say but good thing. He was right underneath the crash zone Oh, well, this is the thing. Let's let's do a bit of breaky downy here. So, um, they're surrounded by water There's this one bit of bridge how unfortunate that it crashed onto the bridge specifically onto falcon of all things It's not very good. I love how the spotlight hits him perfectly. He's an angel So This is going to be relevant in a little bit later too But for now we need to understand how this suit works if you've got a backpack And then it curls around to the ground with the front of the wings Uh, the distribution of the force that's going to come down on you Going to be in four major parts. I would imagine being the two wings on your two feet Um, well, maybe you'll back because it's going to drive the pack down Uh, but that's that's kind of where it's going to be distributed. It's going to hit like fuck when you get hit by this Falcon be dead No, it isn't No, it isn't it's fine No, it isn't The helicopter just digs off of it. Yeah Instead of crumpling all around after plummeting from the sky How much does a helicopter weight we got we got plenty of people in chat already I almost want chat to figure this one out for themselves. Many people are saying it's vibranium wings now chat I expect you to fight back against chat for saying that there's plenty of smart people in there. Come on now Yes, do it. We shouldn't have to handhold you through every one of these floors. All right. That's terrible I want you to use your brains Like we told you like we've like we've been like we've been teaching you Uh What we got here logic is not your friend. That's really dumb legs crushed Something Something there simple the wings are made of chairs I like that he doesn't he doesn't have legs. He has chair legs Aluminium helicopter rhodi was covered in vibranium. Oh, well, no, he wasn't rhodi Like a chair into the helicopter the bridge should have been obliterated by now Iman got knocked down by cars Seems that we got scattered thoughts here so He had his jet pack on Off camera and he was using the lift to soften the blow Oh, it's not gonna do much of anything. I there is a fucking helicopter falling on you at full speed That's not really gonna do much of anything to save you. Um, so When you make a dome, right all the weight is going to be distributed around that dome This is not a dome. This is two wings curling around So how the force works when it comes down Is a little bit more complicated They'd like you to believe it's like a dome You see it comes down on force here And so it's going to spread out and it's going to crush anything in between it once it hits the solid spots Which would be all the concrete, right? It's gonna be where it where it breaks and so anything in between is going to have You know that what's it called something's got to give that's the that's the saying The which thing gives well its reaction gives an equal and ups, you know Yeah You don't think about that whenever somebody throws the shield And it makes the person it hits fly back, but the person who threw it's okay. Just don't think about it Don't think about that. Yeah, so don't think about that one wing comes around and locks in here One wing comes around and locks in here So that covers Sort of this half What's going on behind? Well, there's no wings behind. It's just his pack And then the shield on top So the force that comes down on him is going to come down On almost honestly specifically what connects the pack to his back Like that's gonna like come down real hard. So if it's connected fully That shit is going to wreck his back if not his knees if not his feet um Because of the force it's gonna wreck like fuck if it were an actual dome he'd probably be okay, but uh it ain't Oz He is Super dead and this is not this is only one of a few instances in this episode where he's very very very dead Oh, and yeah, so to clarify it being vibranium changes nothing about everything. I just said Gotta gotta We we we just we know that this is not how it works like they say it but it's not true It's just like ant-man all over again like um If the shield is literally magic and anything that it hits the force of it just disappears into nothing It's like we wouldn't see everything that always fucking happens throughout all of you know the films Um, but it is pretty amusing the idea that the helicopter is like you could drop a planet onto the shield And it'll just bounce off because that's just like how it works. It's like, well, I was fucking shut up. It's magic Um shield's really good at deflect and stuff, but it has its limits And even people who are holding the shield will get pushed back or they'll experience a lot of like Shudder of force stuff like that and weight Um, of course, we'll still fuck you up. It's gonna be relevant a little bit later Um, also the helicopter when crashing into this would fucking crumble apart and fall around them It wouldn't dink off and land in the background Yeah, that's very fucking dumb His skull should be crushed his legs should be broken at the very least So people actually citing that the chair stopped the shield. So hey it can't absorb So it can't absorb the shock of the shield. Yeah Um, yeah, this was pretty funny Um, but it's not as bad as the one to come at least in the sense of the payoff because this is like a quick like It's fine. I just deflect myself from the dowjers. Anyway, moving on. We got to go. Okay So yeah falcons done his helicopter mission now. No wait, he hasn't even finished it yet He has to get the other people because that was just the nypd portion of it. Um So, you know, we're getting there. He's gonna go finish off that half Meanwhile, this is pretty fucking dumb. The flag smashes drop some concrete blockades in front of these guys cars or trucks, I guess, um So the first thing I think I was saying we'll be watching this. I was like reverse reverse Yeah, just break and go in reverse because you can't keep going forwards You definitely don't want to just drive right up to it. That would be that would be really So dumb especially if you just drove right up to it and then just stopped And sat there Oh, that would be really dumb if you did that. What a mistake that would be if you made that mistake What a horrible mistake. You think they'd train you for things like this as an armored car driver or just common sense So all of the flag smashes very slowly make their way to the doors Now the armored truck drivers, they got their big brains on They're like well as much as these super soldiers may be able to breach our doors We have guns so we'll just aim them right in the door because this is gonna be easy shooting fish in a barrel Yeah, this is easy. You wouldn't be able to miss if you were blind here The door swings open any moment now. There it is. See oh, oh, no, this guy hadn't gotten his gun out yet Oh, that's why makes you wonder what you were doing because you certainly weren't focused on driving So and then he has a clear shot. It's just like look at this. Look at that He moves his gun forward right to him Oh my god, please it's collie too if he had shot that would go right through a throat and she would suffer and die He would have been single-handedly the best character in the mcu He didn't work through stupid skull. He did what like the greatest soldiers ever could just have a gun He just pointed a gun and shot her and then and then he's like, well, yeah, he's confused why he's hailed as such a hero Like he did something amazing. I was like, well, yeah, I just I shot it with my gun. That's why we have him Do you guys not do that really dumb? Yeah, surprise. She's a lot made it this far, honestly And yeah, so they've taken the truck they're about to leave but here he is bucky coming to save the day does a There's a wheelie and launches himself into I think that's the australian one To start fighting and I remember when we were watching this I was like, this is the finale episode These are the bad guys. He's the good guy. Can he finally be competent? Can he beat the please could he finally punch them would actually like make a difference? He kind of does It's not as satisfying as I would have wanted Yeah, he's he's getting a little tangled up with with the one guy and I think carly Decides that it's time to burn one of the fucking trucks because she's insane. She's like we gotta I think she says something like we've got to distract him So she wants to set one on fire to get him to go after it while they they take the other right? Is that the idea? Yeah, like we got to give them people to rescue or something These pesky superheroes let's threaten some civilians. We're not the bad guys by the way Burn civilians for a distraction that ought to work So, yeah, um, obviously bucky's like, holy fuck, there's a fire on the truck and because bucky hasn't like Been completely assassinated. He actually cares. Nice. Um Immediately runs up to it. I thought it was a little bit weird, right? So you've got the truck is on fire. The civilians are screaming. I get it. You want to save them? It's surrounded by like five super soldiers Do you immediately go and try and open the door or do you think like, hmm? I guess I just try and kill the super soldiers. I feel like you kind of have to right but Yeah, I'll stop you. They kind of disappear You look at the shot. They're just gone I mean, it's almost kind of like, you know, the whole put that put the little mask that drops down on your head first Because if you're dead, you can't help anyone Yeah So, um, I think we're supposed to believe that they're kind of leaving Which is like, okay bucky's busy with this truck now. So what we're going to do? How are they going to stop the people? What hero can save the day while bucky is busy? You know what? Lord Giba's answers that call Here he is John Fucking walker with his own shield too And I think he does like a Morgan Oh, yeah, it's really great And then and then comes the bit we talked about this a little bit earlier, but she's like look you need to understand your friend didn't matter Oh, well in that case Well in that case go right ahead Keep killing people. Yeah, there's no like, you know, like how with a lot of dialogue They like to have villains basically misunderstand you in order to be angry. So if you said something like, um, You know, uh, too many people are dying You have to stop and then they respond with something like, um, you think my cause doesn't matter Like just a deliberate misunderstanding. She says like Lamar didn't matter and his response is like, you think he didn't matter? It's like, yeah, that's one to one. He's basically just like, yeah, repeat it back what she said because it's bullshit It's like, yeah, what the hell? Also, this is cursed John right now Yeah, that's uh, that's scary John Yeah, we got so much on over here Um, so yeah knowing that he has the the serum and uh, and he's he's on is like if you could say it up like We were still worried that Because of this show you could have him like still go nuts and like tear you're apart and then be covered in blood Screaming saying i'm captain america still you'd be like, eh Let's hope that They do it all right, but uh, they do pretty pretty pretty okay and good. He has a full on fight He honestly like tangles with multiple of them at the same time and he even fights kind of sort of with bucky Which is nice too Um, and just any oh my god, dude. Carly hits his shield with her foot away And it's like it like bounced on the floor. This is her face after doing it. She's like, yeah, bitch smiling I hate her so much. She's so smug. She's a terrible human being And she acts like she's above it all she like thinks she's the hero of this story and it's like dude How can you be this naive and blind? It's just like I don't buy that someone like this could possibly exist Yeah, so walker literally takes on i think three or four of them at once while uh Went to soul just trying to save the innocent civilians while carly fucking cackles in the background It is like we're very strictly clear on who's the bad and who's the good now. It's uh Yeah, you would think so Yeah, um, so I think went to soldier blasts it open and uh This is where you could sort of make a criticism of character I don't know really what it means exactly instead of going to save the people in the other one. He decides to help walker I guess I think you could say that there's an argument for either choice there Yeah It's a tough one because especially because walker is honestly getting beaten the fuck out with with these people They're all kicking his shield by the way, which is weird considering that he's not only a super soldier But also was a really good soldier beforehand. Well, he gets a bit of a second wind and he does beat the shit out of them again It's it's like a it's a weird like cat and mouse thing going on in terms of like What's happening where the who's winning what was there? Um, and you get this little moment. I'm pretty sure it's very deliberate Where someone says like thank you for saving our lives to to bucky and bucky's like whoa And I'm I'm guessing like what they're probably going for here is like you see bucky's being recognized as a hero now Not as the as the winter soldier He's done this a lot He's done a lot of good things. I'll allow it. I guess um I have to keep turning a copyright on and off just to protect us from the evilness. Oh, no The evil disnoids. Oh, no Oh Yeah, and so then uh bucky does Kind of save walker from possibly getting hit by something big and it's just like oh my god This is nice. They're finally fighting together against the actual bad guys Because This is the thing they've been in action scenes together before but this never felt like they're working together It's always felt like bucky reluctantly accepts that walker is in the room with him. It's like, okay Um, so this is he hits. This is a part where bucky hits collie in the face with a bunch of chains. It's very sad Oh, yeah, that felt good every hit she sustains is like yes I think we laughed when this happened. So yeah the the construction site like Suddenly a huge feet So it's yeah, uh, basically I'll take the copper off of this Well, okay very tired, but we're all of us get there. It's all good. So Bucky gets knocked off. Oh wait, we got knocked for a really far back now. Damn it I'll control all of these things all at once. He gets he gets kicked, I guess and um, he Just falls off into a construction site and falls really far down Before you can accept that, you know, like, oh no bucky's out of the fight now. Is he okay? You don't really know. It's quite the fault. He looks up and this happens It's such a fucking hilarious image. You're like, what the hell? Here he comes This man is committed. It's like, okay, but I don't know. I feel like This might cause problems for you. Why would you want to jump down? What do you want to stay out? That is such a huge fault with that giant like piece of construction equipment That's probably weighing you down making your fall worse. It's like that that does not seem like a good plan of attack There goes his legs. Yep I just it's like 80 feet like usually when Steve or bucky like jumped high distances like they would tuck and roll. There's none of that. He lands on his legs I'm like, I that should break him. I know he's like a super soldier, but dude You wouldn't walk after that. Oh You have to have limits. Jesus remember bullets kill them. Like you can't be doing this shit um Yeah, we like again. Oh, yeah, this is a bit of a weird part Falcon is flying right next to the the helicopter And like it starts to head towards him Now he has a bazillion options here the main one being you deactivate the wings and the thrusters So you just fall he's done this many times in uh winter soldier and civil war and whatever else Pretty good tactic But instead because he's a dumb ass. He just looks at it and goes. Oh, no, and then it hits him Because he's just an idiot and he crashes into like these concrete, uh, tube things With enough force that it just completely knocks them out of whatever system they're in Was it made of and it's like this moment where they're trying to bait you into thinking like is is he dead? No I hate this shit when it's when they really think they can try and bait you and yeah, I don't get it I don't know why he knows how to dodge shit like this. He's a great experience. Well, I don't know We got to delay him. He spends so long on this fucking helicopter He could have ended it instantly by sending red wing in but he's just like no, no, no No, no, this is movies. I can't do something twice Had to be stupid I gotta I gotta show the people chair as odd Yeah Awake a beauty Yeah, I feel like it's gonna fuck up a shield at least I feel like that's what's missing in the artwork is like a broken dead shield on the floor The chair is dominated. It's cracked. Yeah You see chair types furniture types are very strong against Shield types Yeah, it only makes it Yeah, um He eventually gets back out saves the day helicopter stuff is done. We really really really don't care Um Walker, I think I even said whatever it cut back to falcon. I was like, I don't care He's gonna save the helicopter people. Can you go back to walker fighting? Carly, please That's like the most investment. I have at this show at this point, please But uh, yeah Easily without a doubt it does cut back to it and he manages to knock the fuck out of like all of them except carly She starts running away There is a bit though You know in a lot of stories they won't have I think I talked to you guys about Or you might think I'm referencing something else here, but I'm not When you when you have a moment with two very obvious visual things Represent a choice and the character like struggles with it and then goes ah and commits to one It's going to tell you everything about them. Um, obviously walker goes through one There's a different one that I'm much more interested in and I find absolutely hilarious from like a storytelling point of view Carly think I know what you're talking about Carly's hit a couple times. Everyone's down walk is really happy She gets up and she looks right and this is this is her villain choice moment and it's hilarious to think about, okay She looks at walker Then she looks at the nypd truck and she hears screaming now With everything we know about her what's going through her head right now is Damn it. Either I kill the hero or I kill all the innocent people. I can't have both And it's like what will she choose everyone It's like a stressful moment for her she has to choose who she's not going to be able to kill you're like, what the fuck She's gonna have to choose who she won't be able to kill. There's so This is what I mean about how she's like absolutely reprehensible. She's this horror The screaming of innocent people made her go like, oh, no, I've been too distracted with walker to kill all the innocent people Oh, what a stressful environment No What I mean, it's weird. It is weird things to do Because like even with the music it's very much portrayed as like a damn carly. You got to get on point. You know Wait, you got people to kill. Exactly. Yeah Um and so really frustratingly she kicks walker in the head and he's basically out for a moment And I remember us being so upset. We were so ready for him to kill her and she just hits him She does this stupid move where she goes around the bar and he just lets her kick him in the face. It's Uh It sucks when I'm like this so clearly telegraphed and it just happens and like, oh, they just they just needed him out of the Scene, that's just all that there is to it. Well, at least they give us something for that, right ranks we get a payment for this so uh, bucky's still battling Uh, I guess steel thing man down there having fun um, but carly crashes the armored truck with hopes of having it fall down the construction site the 80 foot fucking drop but It gets caught on a steel beam That it somehow tears open Pretty sure steel beams are monsters Like yeah, but you will well, you know, but they use them to like construct buildings like they're really I've heard and I've heard that their biggest weakness is a fuel of some sort Um one that would be a fuel the plot needs them to be weak so that it can continue forwards, yes But yeah, um to rip them open. I don't know if you've ever seen like there's there's always like Well funny slash horrifying depends on where you're going Uh, like if if a steel beam falls off like a truck on a like a motorway And it if a car is it anyway heading toward it that car is going to get shredded by the steel beam It's just like it just destroys it cuts right through because steel beams are just there's there's a reason they construct everything with them They're pretty strong um But this car it's it's going at like 15 miles per hour. It's really slow And it just cuts through it like a bit of butter now There's probably some arguments to be it looks like it disconnects it in that moment there But then they show a better shot and you can see it just tears through it. It's a bit of a weird It's obviously to give us this epic moment of them slowly falling It's uh, it's it's all setting up for a certain thing to happen The same time doesn't seem like the car will be able to pull this off Um, it sparks through and just tears it open Poor steel beam Actually from this shot it looks like two different steel beams that have been connected by a metal plate with like like bolts But I don't think they commit to that because it looks different at different angles Like it's been torn open Well either way it doesn't really matter because what we're getting at here is that uh the car the truck is going to fall Everyone in there is going to die Hmm What what can be done about this everyone We're gonna have something happen Everyone's very stressed out looking at this scenario. It's like, oh god. Who's gonna save the day? And of course this flag smashes are all like jumping up and down with joy So happy to see all these innocent people die. It's like, yes our plans. So glad. Yeah that thing that we Yeah, we were nervous about this before but we're totally on board now So walker arrives and we get this moment and uh, again, this was another one of those like Oh I was sweating bullets As you can see truck is falling. Walker sees that. He also sees carly is right there. He could kill her He could take his revenge And he even stresses out a little bit and becomes cursed john again because feel See he's trying to he's trying to get rid of the possession that is evil walker. He's trying to get him Um Yeah, he has a resolve he gets lists his head up and he pulls that truck back. He even tosses the shield down There is The shield down. He's just like, you know, what's in in the whole series Yeah, it's good. It's like I I really did good. Yeah Yeah, it is after episode four I really did think they were gonna turn them into like Homeland or captain america. I thought he was gonna just be full out evil and it's like this caught me off guard I was like, wow, like It seems like you care about him to some extent. It's like you gave him this Seriously, we cannot undermine his efforts. How do you not done this? They would have died because falcon couldn't have made it in time Yeah, and he doesn't take any of the credit at all. No, he doesn't all of it. It's just like any of the credit Yeah, yeah That's awesome. It's like Seriously though, like I I like unironically like this scene Well, I like john walker and even though this show is terrible. I like the character I hope I hope they don't destroy him in future stuff. I hope he keeps doing what he believes is right fights for truth justice and the american way Um, because what what makes this even tougher is he's pulling it up He's about to get it safe because he like you can hook it behind one of the prior uh beams unfortunately Fucking goblin people start attacking him Yeah Look at him go Monsters what's legendary about john is he holds on with one arm and tries to punch them off with the other Because this man is not letting go fucking legend Yeah, that is so awesome the show man I'm screaming no as he falls down because he can't save them. Yep The fuckers pull him off and drag him down I meant to feel sad when like they're jumping I uh Yeah, it's not like that. He didn't win the fight with them. It's that he couldn't save them It's like that he thinks he let them down. It's like It's completely. Yeah, I think he drops the shield as you mentioned earlier Which it's funny kind of makes it so that he kind of earns it You know Because he needs to save these people which is what captain america would certainly do Which I seriously doubt is something the writers meant to convey Yeah Because that's the thing is sam. It's all about the shield for him He's like give me give me back the shield and he has the shield at the ending It's like like I feel like they meant walker like realizes He doesn't earn this and he gives it up because he doesn't deserve the shield or something But I'm like dude. He does this action. It's like Yeah, I feel like that maybe they were thinking that there would be a contest of sorts between walker and sam to see who was really captain america And this was their visual way of saying oh no walker is not captain america. Don't worry sam's getting the real shield He gets to really be captain america Seriously though like because the scene plays great music from civil war But it plays the wrong track if they're trying to do the reincorporation they played the track when bucky's ripping out the arc reactor Um, it's a great song But it would have been better if they played the song that they played when cap drops the shield when when tony keeps telling him It doesn't belong to him part of the problem with light Well, just the captain america march like his captain america's classic theme that could have been awesome too Oh, yeah, but again they reserve the happy music for falcon So part of the problem with the whole light motif thing is that you can basically do all kinds of mental gymnastics to argue Why that was the perfect song for that scene when you just pull different details and apply them in different ways Um, I honestly would have preferred a new soundtrack like potentially I Feel like a lot of the music in civil war was very much civil war stuff And I could see them bringing it back if there were another civil war story and it had related sort of Things that passed through but like I don't know that walker maybe should have gotten his own theme for this Like, uh, well, he got that star spangled remix one that they played when he goes But which is a really cool song like actually really like but it's too happy and he's he's he's the he's kind of maybe An anti hero even though he's literally not an anti hero. He's saved people's lives just to hear it Yeah, he's a regular hero. Yeah He's not a villain. He's a hero and so an anti villain. I like this happens Oh Yeah, so If you thought it was crazy that he didn't get killed by that helicopter, he's got his head underneath this truck It's like with his arms like he's actually We need to have a talk we need to have a discussion about how like the universe works Um, like we're talking basic laws. So if you have I don't let's say these say you have a What would be you have a a dumbbell? Or what's the ring on it on a barbell? It's called the the weights, right? You have one of those in one hand and you have one on the other hand, right? And in the middle you have a twinkie, right? And so you put the twinkie in between these two big heavy metal discs and you Push one of them towards the other the twinkie is going to get squished Our our boy here sam. He is the he is the soft weak Vulnerable jelly in between two extremely Hard metallic objects that are not going to give Well The the thrusters are pushing his fucking arms into the force of this truck His arm should be giving out. He should be Basically like the the truck should have fallen and he should be crushed crushed underneath it basically Yeah, so um really into that that what rags just said there's someone out there who'd be like, oh rags You failed to understand that twinkie. It's got a vibranium cloth around it. So it's fine Oh, okay. Well in that case in that case So the vibranium cloth will be perfectly fine. It will be totally reusable however The thing the thing that the cloth surrounds Is going to be squished like a pancake. It's going to be flattened I like the idea of a twinkie preparing for wall with his little little vibranium. So, you know, just squished immediately if you had a um if you had a Like if you put aluminum foil around a muffin and you squeezed with your hand You could still reuse the foil the foil is fine. It's not damaged at all The the muffin however, it it's a bit it's a bit mushy Yeah, this lads what we're looking at here. No not happening Sorry falcon. You're dead. This makes no sense. This would not work a falcon cannot do this Yeah for one The whole twinkie example that works under the assumption that we believe that his thrusters can lift a armored car Which I do not believe it's like i'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah We're talking this is filled with people by the way Remember earlier we were discussing whether or not he can carry one person and we have examples of him having done that We're like, yeah, he's I think he's carried one person There's like 10 people in this truck and then the truck Yeah, the truck was falling when he was in free fall. Yeah, he stopped it with his head underneath it Why is this head like that? He is. Oh, yeah, by the way, what the fuck were you thinking doing this falcon? And yeah, yeah He is dead 10 ways from sunday as they as they say um And so yeah having all of the pressure going from the thrusters of his back Through to the the arms his hands to the truck. His whole body is getting crushed. This poor man is dead several times over I feel bad for you, buddy Um, and then I think as we were watching this and we were like, how the fuck this is I was just like this was walkers scene. I don't even care what falcons do it right now. Fuck you This was walkers win You win because you have plot armor falcon. Good job, buddy. Walker had to make the sacrifice like hardcore Not only just in you showed up late. He was the one who gave you the time He set this up for you to win the day. So and yeah for those who are still Those who are still a little bit like oh, okay. Iron man could do it, but he can't So iron man's suit um is like a mech suit and it's it's what you would call an exoskeleton in a sense that it's all connected via like plates and uh, you know pieces that basically Exert all of the pressure to relies exclusively on the suit not the body inside This is why like in iron man one where the car Is like sent to him. He can grab it and it forces him to go on one knee I think and he's stressed out as fuck, but that's the suit that's carrying it The little fleshy body inside is basically directing where it wants the suit to go We already have this in irl stuff wasn't like like suits where it just makes you stronger What's the cool of duty that first introduced that shit where it's like was it the extra suits? Yeah, yeah, that was an infinite No advanced warfare Yeah, power armor is like the same idea. That's that's kind of how it works. Now. If you look at falcon here He's got cloth on that is not an exoskeleton Not even close And his fingers are bare Yeah, his fingers the fingers are bare. Yeah, there's no exoskeleton or even cloth But the thing with the cloth and I think we covered this but we'll just do another example just in case You have your uh, you you slab of butter. You drop the anvil on it splat However, someone's like well, if I put a vibranium Series of cloths over it. What'll happen? It's like splat. Why wouldn't it be splat? What do you think anything else would happen? It's vibranium. Yeah, the cloth is not rigid It will not support the force It will not bear that force in place of the muffin or the butter. It's some crazy nanotech suit. Maybe um Even like if it was capable of becoming rigid like some kind of thing or activates and then it could do that That would be fair But like we can tell from the shit we're seeing that's not the case not happening No, he's dead And uh, we can just sit here and highlight how fucking dumb this outfit is by the way like the uh All of this space on his face that isn't isn't covered If you want to argue to me that they made him out of vibranium to protect him from shit They leave all of this expo. Why would you want your fingers exposed? He's got like holes for his ears to stick out of it's like why is the helmet designed this way I don't know if they don't leave his fingers exposed then he can't send text messages Someone said isn't black panther Hey, I have gloves. I have gloves that have the little thingies on the fingers. Yeah, but you're not fucking picking up armored cars Like you'll be okay. I think it'll make sense for you to have that Uh, so someone said isn't black panther suit vibranium cloth. Yes, it is Which means i'm totally fine with it blocking bullets Like john wicks crazy sci-fi fucking suit does too But john wick or black panther black panther has more of an excuse because he's a super soldier that he would Be able to deal with um, for example, if this if you replace falcon right now with cap And he's doing the exact same thing I think it's a bit much, but I can I can be like all right. Yeah, he is a super soldier I You know enhanced isms There's a lot of weight that armored car But okay That's that'd be a stretch maybe as a regular human sam can't do shit Like at all You can't even impact this vehicle. You know what I mean? Like it's like if I tried to lift a car It doesn't matter how strong I am as a human big. This is impossible and um Like they they clearly want to argue that it's like, oh, you know, well, it was hard for him You know, he had some trouble. He was he was exerting a lot. It's he's dead Stop it It's like no, it was really hard do this you can't survive this this will crush you This will crumple you up His fingers should be pointing in the opposite direction now The only way this works is if the truck is resting on the backpack Yeah, which it's not really here. He cannot be between like his head is the worst place for a head to be in the universe He's a moron. That's the problem Oh The last thing uh, he gets his win and that's why he didn't earn it walker totally earned his Falcon didn't he just got the he got paid. You know, he's just like i'm the hero. It's like, yeah, you're the hero, buddy And and I and I want to draw attention again to the idea that he's the one who gets all the press He's the one that gets the speech and even gets a nod from walker But walker doesn't do anything for the showboating. He just accepts the fact that he did the right thing Because he doesn't care it's not about the glory boosters on the hood. Well, just lift the hood off the top of it Yeah, it could do and yeah Worth adding walker didn't give his speech of all he thinks is right politically after saving people's lives He just saved people's lives. Yeah. Well, he's white. Fuck him Well, this is the thing that I've I've been saying about steve about this is that he didn't do this big speeches He was just supposed to serve as an example. Like he didn't do what sam does instead of this episode at the end Kind of bat woman ish And then this weird shit happens more about species and shit. Oh, yeah This guy says yeah black falcon What and then this guy says no man no that's captain america Like, okay, both of you are wrong. It's just falcon There's an amalgamation of black people Look the black people are congregating They wish to comment Uh, yeah, this this scene is bizarre to be so genuinely if we were all standing watching this happen We didn't have any of the context of this actual show. We just saw this happening We saw falcon in this suit and some guy went it's black falcon. I'd be like It's falcon. It's sam wilson falcon. What the fuck you talking about and some other guy goes. No, that's captain america I'd be like, no, it's falcon. What what is with you people? It's just falcon He's got wings for christ sake Oh, so cringy because it's like the writers It's like it's like the writers were like see people think it's about race when really it's about I I don't know anymore. I'm confused because all of the characters Random black people They gotta have a comment thing It was wonderful. Um And yeah, so then uh Weird shit happens. Everyone is just sort of like in this Area ready to start a big fight, but then bat rock fucking fires a bunch of gas grenades And you might think Who fucking cares falcons go like x-ray thermal vision. I'm gonna do anything Um, unfortunately that would be incorrect. He stands there for a good 15 seconds to let them escape and then says Ah, I can see them with my thermal x-ray vision. Follow me And so that gap gives all of them the time to separate into the proper positions They need to be in for all of the final payoffs Oh boy, I love writing like that. It's always wonderful. It's great I have all the people who shouldn't be familiar with their gear. It's falcon a character who is gear That's all he has is gear. So, uh, we'll do the easy one first. Uh, winter soldier Decides he will go with john because it it comes across as basically right the enemies have gone in two directions And falcon's like they split up because I can tell from my footprint detector um So walker immediately goes one direction that falcon wasn't going and then they both see walker do it and falcon's like I'll go And the implication is like oh, we can't trust walker to be on his own And I like I don't appreciate that. I'm just like, okay, whatever Yeah, you gotta have make sure winter soldier babysits walker. We wouldn't want him to save people's lives or anything Gotta make sure you're Careful about that. Um, but of course they run off they capture with the police all of the remaining flag smashes and um, I don't know what the quote is but uh walker reads out a Lincoln quote And then as they walk in a way he goes Lincoln really that he goes Hey, Lincoln was a great bad that he puts his arm on his shoulder or something and it's like uh That tiny moment of bucky being nice to walker finally Finally Only took the entire season for you to stop being a petty asshole. He did it And yeah, so that's the end for them the main the actual story it's falcon running down. He's like, what's going on? and uh Sharon Carter meets up with carly in this mysterious place with bat rock meeting up with them too. Was she in a boy band? Aaron Carter Yeah Am I thinking of something else someone else I think I think I'm just being I'm just being into someone else. It's fine It'll be Aaron. Uh, so I think it's Aaron Carter There's really bad exposition again. I didn't want to shock you guys too much there. I know I should have warned you so Sharon's like I am just no no carly says I'm disappointed in you Then she's like I'm disappointed in you you came to madrepoor And you were a great student, but then you betrayed me But then she's like I didn't want to do what you would do and I wanted to do my own thing like well well Isn't that something You should come and work for me again these characters would know these things So it wouldn't need to say them to each other. They're not characters the problem The writers would probably just like oh, we should probably explain their history at this point. I guess I don't know. Does anyone care? Um, I think what I really liked about this seat is just how fucking dumb this shit is so Sharon pulls a gun on carly to open this scene up and she's like drop yours before carly's even realized what's happening, right? Typically with that it's like I have leverage over you now if you make any wrong move I shoot you like I win. Yeah carly decides. No, I'm gonna aim my gun at you And nothing changes Sharon allows this to happen. Yep. It's just like okay then and then Sharon with me the moment She resizes her gun. She's dead. I've got bullets in her yeah And so if she was chill with that it's like why do you even pull the gun on her in the first place because She eventually puts the gun down Sharon does Why'd you pull the gun on her in the first place? You're just gonna Then it gets even weirder because batrock shows up and he pulls a gun on carly Not quite sure why He says he wants more money from Sharon and if she doesn't give him the money He will reveal to the world that she is the power broker Which has nothing to do with killing carly Yeah, but he pulls the gun on carly and it's really strange. I really don't get why he does it Like I've seen this scene like three times and I'm just like are you doing that? um He's like I want four times what you said you would pay me and then she says like well I'm not okay with extortion, right? And so this happens like try and follow along here because it's really weird He's got his gun on carly Sharon raises hers to shoot batrock. She kills him. I think I can't remember if he's definitely dead But it doesn't really matter. I think he's dead Pretty sure at least So carly then raises her gun and shoots Sharon. Can we pause it right? So I want you to look at how Batrock is holding this gun Oh god so I don't know if y'all know how guns work batrock certainly should But if you have a gun and you don't know Never ever ever ever ever ever hold a gun like this Because if you pull that trigger and there's a round in there then the top of the slide of that gun Is gonna fly back right onto your thumb and will very possibly break it or bruise you or injure you significantly You do not hold the gun with your finger at the back of the slide But not to mention that he's holding it like gangsta style so there's like it's cool though It's like rags. It's a cool way to shoot a gun, dude Don't you doesn't it do deal double damage if you aim it like that? Yeah, double damage. I don't know maybe maybe he's got a perk where it's like the more damage you take The more damage your bullet does and so he purposefully damages himself to make this do extra bullet damage to It's called blood merchant Yeah, that slide cut. Oh boy. Yeah, that's I don't even know why he's using a gun man. He should have just brought some chairs down here Sort of kicking those things Yeah, that'd be funny. He's like before they're done with their conversation They hear the sound of like a guy in four chairs scraping against the walls in the floor And he walks in with like six chairs. He's holding them all awkward Just jumps them out on the floor. He's in a kicking position. All right. Now put the gun down You make me think of scenarios though that just always involve he's like a chair Arsenal person like you know when he opens up his big briefcase full of weapons for them It's just six chairs. It's just like, well, he's at the top of the line. You know, what else do you need? I will come at you. It's like metal fold out ones. He just like slaps them and just kicks them all over He has like little chair grenades. He throws it loads of chairs just appear and fly around He was like, oh, fuck. I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, these are really expensive top of the line So anyway, he's gonna kill Carly. Okay. I don't know why Sharon kills him I guess that's because he's trying to extort here. She says I'm not into extortion. So that makes sense But then Carly shoots Sharon Why Yeah, she's Yeah, she's not the one you need to be worried about She's the one who's apparently okay with giving up her position of power over you letting you pull a gun And then she even put her gun down And he's the guy you need to worry about Because he's weirdly pointing one at you for no reason. Dude. Look at this shot. He I think he's got the He's holding on with both arms now. It's kind of a distant job. You can see she's raised hers She's gonna shoot him dead and then Carly's gonna raise hers and shoot Sharon why He saved your life you bitch I don't get it. I never understand the stupid show. It's the only language these people understand Stop saying that Oh And so when we first watch this right you have Sharon is down Bleeding and the power broker stuff is not something Sam knows about Sam walks into this room. All he sees is Carly aiming the gun at Sharon while she's bleeding out I thought Ah, this will be cool Sam's gonna go into a bit of a rage and he might even kill Carly because she's done something horrible to Sharon And he's gonna have to think about how he and walker are not very different And that he shouldn't have been so judgmental I think I might have been on a bit of a high from enjoying walker's scene because that was never gonna happen And I don't know why I thought it You fool you idiot part of it I think is this fundamental understanding I have for when your friend is bleeding to death Thanks to some asshole. You want to kind of fuck up that asshole if you have the chance Like But he doesn't actually care about Sharon. This is canon. Okay. He said earlier in the season Yeah, sorry. I forgot about you. He then baited Help from her by giving her her pardon. He's like, yeah, I can get it for you if you help us It's like, oh, you hate her. Don't you? You just you think she's a piece of shit Whatever he talks to she's like, yeah, hey Sharon. Yeah, you know how you do it So he sees the love of his life carly having shot Sharon and he's like, oh my god I'm even more in love with you. Sharon's so annoying If only now I can de-radicalize you so that we can make babies. That's gotta be it I don't see how it could make sense in any other way And so yeah, he's like, hey, please be nice You gotta I think he says like how many more people have to die before you stop instead of just being like Yeah, so you're insane. You're actually you're a bad person. We need to discuss your psychopathy Um So I think their fight begins because she goes to shoot Sharon like to finish her off And so falcon has to tackle it before she can she would have killed Sharon And then he keeps trying to kill falcon and he keeps saying i'm not gonna fight you Ah fucking why you cow. We're not gonna fight you. I Snatched other people out of helicopters. I blew up helik remember the first scene of the series was him blowing and shooting up terrorists with missiles and machine guns and So this is right Why is this show trying to like generate so much empathy for her character? It's like what has she done to earn any sense of empathy at all? It's just because the writer agrees with her just not her methods Listen, listen, she has a point. She has a point. I need to do better. Okay do better I know you threaten my family, but you know, I think you're still cool. So, you know Friend wasn't important. It didn't matter. I didn't mean to kill her And so she's she hits him and she says stay down He goes no And it's it's so crap compared to civil war Where it's stay down final warning and he says I can do this all day. It's like top tier versus No, remember the thing that the guy said that one time Psy Psy indeed It's just it's like it is like civil war and winter soldiers defective cousin. That's just crawling around on the floor and they're like It's like some weird mutant creature from a bio testing laboratory. We're all the same It's like And so yeah, these scenes are separated merely by a scene that we talked about already with Walker and bucky the last thing she said to sam was stay down And then when we cut back to her she is hitting him over and over again shouting fight back Now I don't know about you guys, but those seem like conflicting interests, you know, they do now that I think about it. Oh, no Hey, this wasn't me. Okay insane if you asked me a little little crazy vlc froze before I even hit pause This wasn't me. I'm not making fun of anybody's face. Okay. Well, something I would ever do I'm making a difference So yeah, she just keeps trying to fucking kill him and he's not doing fuck all because again Like especially with how he cradles her. I think he has a thing for a little bit He's probably turned on by all of the killing and burning, you know, that does stuff for some people some people are into it I don't know So he loses the shield Unfortunate and the they portray this as like, holy shit here comes like the big moment He picks a big gun and aims it at him Now if he has a vibranium outfit, that's not going to do anything, right? Assuming she hits him in the way of the outfit Well, she can shoot him in the head Well, presumably this is a hollywood show. That's just not possible So well, so it's not really that important because I'm going to make a second point But just I just wanted to clarify. Do we believe that this suit is bulletproof or no? What are you what are you guys right now? I imagine it is It's from Wakanda. I could believe as well. We just need to see it spark a bullet at some point and then it is Um, well, well, honestly, like is sam's original suit vibra. I mean, I don't think so because I'd imagine it was Was it not? It just seemed like I don't I don't know how it makes it clear. I was gonna say I can't even tell. Who knows? Um So, uh, but the other thing that I was awkwardly watching I was like, oh man falcon If only ever you've been in a situation If someone tries to shoot at you while you have your falcon wings I can think of that he can do but this this this scene is very high tension you see because He's gonna get shot and die Right because nothing he can do to defend himself a little bit awkward because we know he can Um, but then, you know, he's an idiot lost his mind and Sharon managed to crawl across to this side of the Fucking room despite having her guts pouring out to finish the job that he should have finished ages ago Thank fuck. Yeah saving his life as well from the psychopath who is literally about to shoot him Yeah, Sharon just shoots her three times. I think and Then happens what I think everyone can pick different parts for what infuriates them the most But I think I said earlier. This is the one that really pissed me off Carly's gonna die now thankfully and He's gonna cradle her until the light leaves If fucking everything until she goes away Meanwhile Sarah the chariot is just in the background bleeding waiting for them to finish their moment Unbelievable and he just does not care. He could not care less about her. It's like what? I can't it's like what were you thinking? I feel so bad for Sharon if someone's like, well, she's a power broker She's evil. It's like he doesn't know that He's he's just a dumbass. You're right. He doesn't know that He does know that she's evil manner. He does know how evil Carly is. Yes. It's absolutely insane to watch It's like your friend who has nearly died for you several times who sacrificed so much of your life for you Just saved your life again. You're letting your watch blood pour across the floor. I hate you so much Such an awful human being And if if there was something to distract him something really significant you might be able to make the argument It's saying goodbye to the worst human being in the mcu Like i'm gonna miss you so much. Collie all those times we spent with you trying to kill me Yeah, all the people that you burned in the trucks and the the bombs you could have done better by you You could have killed more and I could have chased you around It could have been sorry. I made you threaten. I'm sorry. I made you threaten my family And you have this look from Sharon that I think sums it up. Watch this. She's like Oh, don't but she's like, oh, they're actually having a moment. I'll just sit here and suffer. It's fine. That is her face She's looking down at it. We're just like, yep, I'm gonna have to sit here for a little longer before he realizes Terrible terrible terrible terrible his character just going up in flames. How does it feel such and such red leather media? Yes I will say I wasn't hugely invested in falcon as a character to begin with but anybody who was I don't know how you could be now I really liked falcon man. I love winter soldier loves civil war and it's like You know, he's largely attached to steve as a character. You kind of like need them to create a dynamic So I wasn't sure how are they how are they're gonna continue along but good god what they did to his character Well, yeah, I think this season could have elevated him to a character I really like instead of just sort of like yeah, he's cool. Yeah, but now I hate him. Yeah Yeah, I don't think I hate him. I'm just like I don't understand why I don't hate him. I hate him. I hate him I I get what you mean. I just it's like I don't even know that I can hate somebody I don't believe exists and you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't believe that you can exist like I don't believe that you exist I can hate someone who isn't real Yeah I know what you mean fringy like he just doesn't seem like a real person at all human being. Yeah, like um I totally agree that he sucks. It's just like I don't know man. Like what a waste as well. Sam could have been like because he I liked him He just needed more But then we got more but it was really crap It's time And seriously that judgment I can feel it that judgment to look by the way that Sam gives to Sharon after she dies He's like, what have you done? It's like I killed this hideous monster that you could not kill for some reason It's insane. I did what you didn't have the balls to do basically And we and chat if you can just appreciate this along with us you get this imagery right here It's like Arkham City It's just like he's he's And it's this sad moment this tragic misunderstood villain and it's like this is what this war this conflict has led to all this death It's like dude. You did not earn this in the slightest Genuinely like what the hell were they doing? She's just looking at this shot again. Oh my god Unlike the slow-mo walk as the wings turn in and he's carrying her corpse It's like I need you to grab her by one foot and just swing her around into the car Oh It's just one of those things where I was just so happy with the results. I was just like, okay. She's dead I'm like, I'm happy. You can have this little tragic moment with her. It's like, I don't care It's like she's gone Just flinging her in an ambulance like a fish in a barrel Oh, well, so this is the thing. He says she died for like what she believed in whatever She's put on a gurney. I am very concerned that she might not be dead And if she's not dead it's going to be a nightmare if they bring her back because I hate her so much And that I have I have like serious worries that they'll eventually try and incorporate her as a good guy After everything she's done Just like swear to god, she better stay dead. Okay watching new mcu writers. You don't get to have this one back You know, they frame it like that like she she like closes her eyes. It's all like it's like he describes her as dead Um, like he said she died. Yeah, he said this little girl died because she blah, blah, blah, blah She has dropped on one of those things. I'm just like, oh, I hope she doesn't end up in a hospital What do you put dead bodies? You still gotta put them on a gurney, right? Yeah, you can put live bodies on gurneys though, too. That's my concern. Well, no, I know. I know that's the concern, right? um Then is the scene Um, I fucking hate this scene. Well, we already loathe this scene. We have talked about it I don't know garbage. What else you guys really want to say about if there's particular quotes you want to talk more about It's infuriating to watch it is literally somebody who has a set of ideas They have no solutions and they want to tell you that you're wrong for thinking anything otherwise. That is the scene Yes, it's blind patronizing basically. It's just like yeah, you don't have anything good to say You just want to say do better. It's like how it's like. I don't know just do better It's like good for you, dude. You anyone can say what you're saying I think I think the the most egregious thing because you know all the shit like oh you could You could change borders with a phone call. You could all that stuff is stupid and naive But the part where he goes you have no concept of how complicated this actually is and he goes. Oh, yeah Well, maybe that's a good thing I think that's I think Yeah, maybe I don't have any fucking clue what I'm talking about. Yeah complexity good Using my fucking brain That's almost despicable. I hate it so much Like I cannot I cannot believe that they put that into this show for the hero to say at the very end of the triumphant moment That's a good point. I don't understand maybe less knowledge is better When is knowing things ever benefited humanity? Well as um I think as you said when we first talked about the same thing you were like, uh, maybe they're gunning for the principle of like I don't have all of these different things complicating my Ideal which needs to stay strong and I would just be like falcon. What do you think their ideals are underneath all of the policies? Like they want to help people Simple as that man Like you're too stupid. I'm sorry. You have no idea and you admit that Part of like what's so funny about this show is that the writers seem to almost acknowledge the flaws and the throughout the show There's loads of examples of it. I've been trying to use the word lampshading a lot to try and Sort of bookmark every time they do it or at least the ones I noticed. Um Like they're aware of how fucking shit this is sometimes and they'll point it out But then they'll also be like man, you're pretty good at this, huh? It's like Yeah, you nailed it. Um it I was gonna say the show had had several different writers and like the head writer is a complete fucking dumb ass And I think maybe the writers underneath him were supposed were meant to Keep like make sure he they kept him from fucking it up completely So they were like, all right, let's just put in like a little stuff that like winks to the audience like, okay Like we know this is stupid. Okay. We know this is but at the same time pandering To the same people, you know, put the money put the money in their bank account I'm pretty sure I said to you guys as well when we were watching Uh I think episode five I was like, we still got time for this show to pull back a little bit and and I think you guys well I will know after what is a or is said You know, it's done. I was like, no They might have it because I said we know that he's gonna end up with the stupid Everything he'll end up being captain america Probably be on tv and isa will probably be at home watching it as he says stuff that goes kind of against what isa said it's literally that but Like they don't go too far. They're like, you know, everything I he you want you want to keep it safe You're like, no, no, no isa was right about every single thing he said but Also, I'm captain america would never we would yeah, we would never not say isa was wrong No, they're not our patron saint Crotchety old man Uh Yeah, it's just incredible quotes such as this woman died to stop you and no one has asked why Can we know why it was just a fucking retard like I can't stand it Imagine victim blaming the people you just saved insane It's your fucking fault that you almost died you pushed her to it. You fucking jackass And yeah, I can't believe they made the hero as a naive child as the villain. It's insane It's fucking insane I get picture of zebo. Let's do everything falcon said and falcon lost his opinion. He'd probably be like, yeah Truly understand what's happening in this world and you should be like smiling You're a very intelligent person. I was right about the avengers. Yes um Oh, I was gonna say falcon falcon saves this woman from being raped and she yells out Oh, that guy's a predator and he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You ever think about why they're a predator? Like what's up with all these labels? Okay. Yeah, you ever think about why I don't want to rape you I could have raped all kinds of them, but I chose you Maybe it's because you got too big Titties, I don't know. Maybe you just cover up a bit, bitch Maybe maybe they have a point about boobies. You know, maybe they got a point How long does this scene go on? It goes on for like three four minutes, right? Like yeah, it's a long few hours. Yeah Goes on for a long time And uh, it's well, it's peak self-indulgence again. We've been across this and other stuff But just yeah, like the the right to just jerk it himself off. It's like, oh her self I don't actually know who wrote this. I Everything in this show is in this scene Yes, I really do feel that I think you know everything everything about the building being awful the character motivations making no sense It's just in service of this stupid fucking monologue And loads people They also make this dig Yeah, they also make this dig at Steve Rogers like, um, I'm not here blonde here blue eyes I'm a black Like like that was the only thing that made Steve like the only reason why Steve Rogers was picked is because he was a white boy And not the fact that he just had like he was just so special In his ideals If you watch captain america one, this guy is very specific He doesn't fucking care about the skin color. He's after the character. He wants to He literally picks a scrawny little guy. Yeah, he's like five seven and he's white 90 pounds or whatever Five seven. He's like five two. He's white. It's white You know that one there and blue eyes. Uh, he did have that when he was scrawny Well, see and this is part of the what I would call cowardice to a degree, right? So let's say old man steve like knocks on falcons door in a couple of days And he sits down has some coffee and then he's just like What did you mean when when you said that I'm not just out here with blonde hair and blue eyes? Like, you know that that's nothing to do with Well, I picked your falcon would be looking at him and you probably like stop being like, oh fuck And and like you have like old man cab just wants to talk to about like how it was never about like any like even feels bad It's like is that what that was? Is that what we were? I didn't know like I thought our relationship was like just that we were friends Not you were the black guy and I was the white guy What the hell happened and falcon be like, why is everything about race with you people? Fucking hell and then Falcon it was just for tv dude. Like it wasn't it was it's just Like a speech if you listen to what I say. I don't know what I'm fucking talking about. I just I actually don't see any value whatsoever. They're still gonna make a saint out of me, but I said nothing of value I'd say something negative value, but Oh, yeah, it's definitely well, I'd say it's further than that, right? It's taking stuff away. It's fucked everything up further. It's like, thank you You did a great job And what's funny is after this whole speech after everything that we've just been through Sharon has still not seen a doctor She's Still fucking waiting It's actually absurd and like bucky's like come on. We should we should go and then as she leaves falcon's like Oh, yeah, I I'm gonna keep my promise by the way the whole pardon thing. Yeah Yeah, this is like, yeah, he still doesn't come through on that from his pov She is like the most legendary person in his life, but he doesn't really give a fuck It's very frustrating. I feel bad for even though. I know that it's all bullshit because she's evil You know what I mean? It's she's done all of the work It's like if she was a sociopath building a really strong Look of a friend and not getting appreciated for it. It's frustrated It's like all this fucking time I put into pretending to be your friend I'm not even getting the fucking rewards. Like what the hell is that? I actually hate you You know, I was evil the whole time falcon. Yeah, fuck you Oh The falcon's like I knew it and she's like, oh, I knew you didn't know you you just fucking lie I thought we were friends. It's like on what basis, buddy I think I think the thing that frustrates me most is that the whole movie pretends that captain america's ideals Are relics of a bygone era that doesn't exist anymore So it's like, okay, then what are the new ideals and we get this stupid fucking scene just do better Like really that's like Captain america's ideals are outdated and you're gonna replace them with this You like what are caps ideals? It's like, well, uh freedom like the power to the individual honesty justice and uh Just doing right by a fellow man. What about these guys like Better than that. That's their thing. Do better. They're like, we're like that but better I'm like, that's not really anything is it. It's like, well, it's better than that As as is categorical at this point do better You guys suck Man, that's how you teach people shit. Just tell them to do better. They'll get it One one lost one lost good scene. All right. One lost good scene zemo gets his victory He blows up the remaining flag smashes Yeah Satisfying to watch he's just sitting very satisfying and he's like, yeah What kills me is like this person who loaded him up in the truck gave him like a like a hail hydra type thing Like a one world one whatever and they were smirking and shit You'll be really funny terrorist is uh if zemos butler went down there one of them is like screaming as they're burning He's like, yeah, not fun. Is it? Oh how the turntables oh so unfortunate i've got all this water here i've got like It's so stupid. I hate them all Uh, yeah, they they they just basically say like walker's gonna be us agent now your us agent and that rolls off the tongue We need a us agent your us agent buddy. I hate that name I am us agent. Like what do they call you for short jesus you go usa? Like that's not We shall call you usa usa Usa And yeah, this is a really cobbled together ending that just desperately tries to tie off shit So walker's it's just like your us agent now and he's like, okay You'll probably be back to like thunderbolts or something. Yeah bucky's like I killed your son by like, well we've done that um I thought I thought it was amusing that he sees he's in uh He walks past the place and he sees them and he's just drinking it's like Oh, no, he's turned to alcohol after he told him I thought the same thing like oh, he's just gonna fucking ripped on sake now He's like, yeah, well, what's the point in living the one friend I had to it over the guy who killed my son. Just like Oh, no So sad What else we got? Oh, yeah falcon is like, hey isiah Ain't it cool that everything's worked out and then they take him to the um The memorial where isiah's got a uh a place in it now, um I think I feel the same now as I did when we watched it. It's um, it's a really good moment basically because of the acting Uh, again Now I'd be like, well wait, what's wrong with the moment itself? It's like, all right, so Because of all the problems we already come up with through all the history that got bolted on to this The mcu with isiah I feel like if we're gonna ignore all of that and pretend now that it is 100 percent official And that we just don't have the records for it like so this should be a really like a drooling task To get this accepted as actual history if it's been erased That's like first and foremost Um There should be like a lot of things you have to go through lots of different ways of trying to gather proof And testimony and stuff and then I think that if you really have to rush it like they do because fucking hell They have to rush everything. Um, I think it would have been cooler to have had a very minimal Appreciation for him in this place so that he can see that his name is here and a record is here And it's a start and that they're going to try and build on it and be like a bigger But like immediately he's got this huge golden statue all of this like writing all these videos playing It's like would you get all this stuff from like? Yeah, did the government like are they upset that you made all this public? And how do they feel about this? And what about isiah the guy remember isiah this surprise for isiah It's like the dude told you do not reveal this. They'll kill me, but you did anyway Yeah, also I fucking hate america Yeah It all feels so strange and they were like, you know, he just has a memorial It'll be it'll be nice and you'll cry and it'll be really great and it'll be like respect in history Because that's remember one of the lines he says is that america has been erasing our history for 500 years or something like that Like it plays in to how evil america is but now they're remembering things which is nice everyone remembers stuff They write stuff in books Great and then they all dance And I've always wondered about filming stuff like this where it's totally not what it seems Everybody's on set and it's like all right three two one everyone dance. Yeah jump up and down Everybody pretend to be happy It's so great I'm loving life for you guys too. Yeah, okay cut the guy would go home now The way it ends is just so abrupt Yeah, they're best buds now Um, I I would not blame you for not believing that yep at all. They didn't earn it at all um And it's it's incredibly cheesy everyone's smiling dancing singing taking photos the world is saved Like I said, they never solved the money problem It never happened. So this is like well Shut the fuck up. We're at the credits. You know, you don't need to bring it up. You're like, all right Everyone that was Everyone that was sympathetic to the flag smasher's cause is still out there. Yep Give it to Graven says nothing's really changed in mind He changed it. Oh, that's something I didn't mention the um the patch act it got like changed or amended or moved or whatever, right? Yeah, so they made no changes. Oh no borders. It's like what the fucking flag smashers won They got their way Absolute nonsense. Why the hell did that happen? The terrorist one You know what I I kind of miss I I kind of miss how not preachy Zack Snyder's justice league was That Hey, I'll agree. I'll agree. It wasn't preachy No, I was just stupid You know what I mean, I kind of missed how it was just it was just bad Right like just good old fashioned dog shit Which there's plenty of there's plenty of good old fashioned dog shit in this but Oh, yeah, but there was also just like Just moral bankruptcy added on top of it Well, I mean, I mean that's that's pretty part and parcel for the dce though Oh, yeah, they're immoral immorality. So yeah, like yeah, okay. Yeah, it's pretty unreal So why is it so hard to just write a story where the good guys are obviously the good guys? Why do we have to do this? I'm on board with there being shades of gray I think the problem is where the cut the content can't tell the difference where they create something horrible They're like, whoo, you're like no show. No, no, no, no, that's the bad gray area. It's like, oh, yeah That gray area burning people to death gray It's like it's like they try to it's like they write gray area and just pretend that it's not Because all the good guys they can't be doing anything bad. Well, it's all good Think about this, right? Bucky and Sam are the heroes the good throughout all of this when they do horrible things regularly that really fucking bother me And the show's not aware Walker is the gray Well, no, he's kind of he's gray evil in a lot of this when he's mostly just good guy pretty much always just good guy That's annoying Carly and the flag smashes are considered gray when they're nothing but evil They just do evil. That's basically it. So it's just like wow you keep missing all of what you're doing You think you're doing x but you're doing y and it's really annoying. So it's completely incompatible Oh Yeah, and they end with we kind of went over this earlier, right? But captain america and the winter soldier First of all Captain america is a governmental role a rank provided not Just just taken by anybody But if we are to agree that it can be earned by anybody and that it's more than just the shield or the outfit Which i'm happy to agree with and I think walker has that title Yep Falcon on the other hand is falcon He's falcon enjoy being falcon with your little shield and your colors and your stars and stripes Doesn't mean you captain america might want to be but not yet. Let's see how we go Also bucky is still just a winter soldier. Yep. He hasn't moved on This this season was clearly about identity They clearly bait over and over again that the winter soldier is a part of him He's trying to escape and make amends for and yet they have the balls to be like. Yes falcon has discovered a new identity But bucky has not Damn, okay And uh, that's the season No, right. There's that little end credit of sharing evil bad guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah Well, again, I don't have anything to say about it because I need more context until I find out what's going on with Sharon I can't really say anything about it. I like I said some people might call that she's been assassinated I completely agree if she is Sharon kata if she isn't then Yeah, well, it's just like if she's if she's a scroll then it's like what is What is being in madra poor helped her with her position? I think it's it's a lot of things right like if you're If who where is the real one? She's just dead Yeah But I wouldn't put it past them to do that because it's really stupid to kill it Uh, no, just have the scroll thing be what it is They got their secret invasion show to set up, you know, I could believe that she's a scroll I could believe that she's been brainwashed. I could believe she's not Sharon kata at all She's just some person with a fucking mask leave anything. Yeah So she's got a double mask. God damn This is part of why I don't even want to talk about it because there's like a bazillion things They could make it and until we have it I can't judge it So for now, I'm just like, yeah, she's this weird creature doing weird things. I don't know Kind of lame. I can't really judge anything. What if she's brainwashed maybe because that happened in the comics ones? Yeah, she's a chair. Oh my god. Oh, no I was about to say yeah, she killed she killed carly. So it's like I wouldn't cast her as a scroll Secretly being a chair About 10 hours ago we said right then time to get to references there are your references 10 hours of references, okay With a few discussions in between show is awful To just just topped the bottom bad and it might be like wow So really all the new stuff you guys have been watching is really really really bad. It's like listen We call it as we see it. What do you want us to do? What do you want us to I don't want it to be bad. I would like things to be good. I think we all would Yes, just I don't have a lot of hope for the mcu moving forward though man because like this stuff It's like this is what post endgame mcu is going to be like it's just you can't really recover after endgame I think black widow will tell us whether we can expect this of the movies, too Yeah, just any of the movies. That's the thing because that's like kind of a post endgame movie And it's like it's taking place before endgame. So it's like have they just given up and just grow out whatever it's like I guess shang chi right and that that movie looks really great. Doesn't it looks so generic It's just look very generic And then you like someone said Loki looks good. It's like guys. It's probably gonna be a disaster too It is not It is about an irrelevant version of Loki from endgame who escaped with the tesseract. It's like what Why would we follow his story? Well, he's gonna get back. He'll be integrated back in. I swear to god, they'll do it And then we're gonna have our fucking a force movie as well and all this shit How one's ever really gone No, and no not when there's money to be made So Yeah, that's that everybody. Uh, there's no way Unfortunately, we are another efab where we can't get to super chats because funnily enough We're close to hitting the cap again. I said close. Oh, no 40 minutes. I'd say What a chunky this makes up for the short. Yeah, the last one. Yeah No, god damn Rags and I have we'll have to find something. We're gonna it's gonna be just a lot of catching ups I'm afraid just lots of different circumstances over the past few efabs that have prevented Which has been read out But I do think that anybody who just you know wanted some good old-fashioned efab content You just got a giant sandwich jelly in between Oh boy, enjoy the that hopefully Uh, it'll get put out on moolah as soon as I'm allowed to from how Processing works. 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I've um, I'm editing it right now So I've played the games again and got my footage and recorded my audio Not sure when it's going to be out, but I I'm in the process of making it essentially and After that I'm planning to make a video on el Camino a breaking bad movie So don't know when I'll start writing that one, but those are the two videos that are on the horizon Uh end game video Why what's wrong with end game the fuck? Yeah, wow too much man that this script is ballooning. It's very intimidating. There is a lot to talk about well Um, you know, he took us what like 11 hours to talk about a six hour thing So how long will it take you to talk about a three hour thing? You tell me it's gonna take me five hours to talk about anything No, please no, it'll be three once that's edited down. That's probably actually like reasonable. That's probably might be what it is Who knows? Yeah, maybe Yeah, that's what i'm working on and i've been streaming and working on the comic and by working on it. I mean not but I will Um, excellent jay longbone. What are you up to these days? But well, I was working on a A review for the craft legacy and I still am but I'm setting it aside for a falcon in the winter soldier review Because that's got my And uh, yeah, I still got to get out. Um Uh episode 11 of batwoman that reaction I have to start working on And yeah, I got some other stuff coming out too sweet Um, me what are you up to? It's like, oh, I've been all kinds of things Uh It's funny. There's so much stuff recorded for efab that just still needs to be processed edited and gotten out Obviously the dceu arc is soldiering on falcon the winter soldier got right in the way because you know It's just so awful that it just interrupts everything for everybody um The boys is still being tooled away dad and uh, there's just there's just more things all kinds of things And uh, as far as I know now are we how long have we got before something new comes out anybody? Uh, loki comes out in early june, I think. Um, what else is on the horizon? So I mean we have a month a month of no new movies or tv shows. That'd be nice, please No, oh, yeah, we need to do that. Um, Uh, we have seen we watched, uh, I don't know. I always feel like is this kind of a secret I don't think so. We should be okay. We had an eight man watch party for Mortal Kombat 1991 Mortal Kombat 2021 by 95 in 2021 Or otherwise known as cano's grand adventure. Yes so We've seen the new Mortal Kombat as well as the super old one That'll be that'll be out sooner rather than later. I believe uh, dash bullshit will be tackling that one He's also in it. It's gonna be great eight man indeed. It's quite a rockus We miss I will admit We don't really absorb much of the story in either of the films I will say that You know, and I know that's gonna upset everyone the films dramatically But uh, yes, we had a lot of fun. I look forward to it coming out And we're gonna record for a Godzilla versus Kong at some point and that'll be out too All kinds of all kinds of things all come into your doorstep on on mubishly channel second channel and uh Yeah, what what are you up to rags? How things going on things are going a okay video will be out when it's out There you go. That is the best See all of us were fumbling around all these details there's rags nailing it In an instant and to the Incredible satisfaction of not only the audience but the cast as well which He's just kind of wanting and to the end now. So um, thank you all very much for hanging out with us for 11 hours it's been a while since you've done one of these ones, you know feels weird, but It also felt right winter soldier kind of deserved this the show. I mean, uh And yeah, thank you very much for all of the donations And we we will get to them as soon as we can in some form of a catch-up in some way. Um, yes, we will do a catch-up. Yes um Yeah, anything you you don't want to say before we we sign off Uh, no, I think uh do better John walker did nothing wrong. Don't walk is a legend Add a titan a king And everyone else That was the TV show. Thanks for watching everybody. Goodbye Goodbye. Good night. Thanks for sticking around Rags video on saving snow when saving snow Hello snow