 Okay, this one's okay recording is started Good morning, everybody. Welcome to PC 2 1 3 our course on the end times Thanks to each of you for connecting to the class today Let's take a moment just to pray and then we will Get started May I request somebody to please unmute your mic and pray with the class today and then we will start Anyone could pray with us, please. All right. That's silence here. I've been asked. Why don't you pray? So pastor, thank you Our gracious Heavenly Father We thank you for this beautiful time and the moment that you have given us Lord Jesus We praise you this morning Lord. We worship you this morning for the God But God as we are going to study your word for the God in any time We ask you the more revelation for the God to understand your deeper things for the God Your secret thing for the God and as we are going for the God with submit pastor Uses into your mighty hand in as he is teaching for the God help us for the God to understand his word Lord Jesus I pray that Lord Jesus all the fellow Fellows work where we have for the God. We ask your grace to understand the things for the God We submit this time into your mighty hand Lord Jesus and we ask this pray in Jesus mighty name. I mean Hey, man Thank you. Thank you one. All right, so We are making our journey Through this chapter that we are calling a Panoramic view that means I'm they're trying to kind of get a high level overview of the sequence of events and We're not necessarily going to go into the details the details. We'll get into number third year When we study the book of Daniel verse by verse all the end-time prophecies in Daniel And we also go through revelation the book of revelation verse by verse but in the course in this course our goal is to get an overview of the sequence of events and Why we position certain events now where we do and Also, we want to look at after this the next chapter will be the signs of the times Things that are indicating to us where we are and how close we are to the They're the rapture of the church and so on Like we said earlier, yeah, there are differing views on So on the timing of certain events or you know how these events would unfold and we are mindful of that We are respectful of that But when we present our position, we also try to explain why Why we say that we think you know, this is the timing of the event so I'm gonna quickly review what we've done In the last I think the last two lectures very quickly and let me start off with something very important, which is the rapture of the church and We will explain again. So that that itself, you know, like we said, there are different positions on the timing of that event when it would happen and So we will present our position and explain why we believe that is so So I'm gonna go ahead and share the same PDF that we've been using um on chapter 4 bible professor coming world events a panoramic view We Have a little chart here that kind of outlines the main the main Events at a very high level and We you know, we talked about the rapture The the event itself the rapture of the church and what will happen That we will have glorified bodies from the Lord's sense and we also said that This happens like a thief in the night. So we we can't predict Exactly the day and the hour when the Lord is going to come back for the church Talked about the trumpet of God, you know, we just looked at the the the mention of the trumpet of God both in 1st Thessalonians 4 and 1st Corinthians 15. We talked about those things and then We just outlined a bullet point In a bullet point form what will happen when we are with the Lord in heaven for that seven year periods These are the things the bible Mentioned and therefore we are aware of that will take place during that time And just a listing of different crowns that we see are mentioned for us in the new testament Right, so that's how far we progressed So now we are going to talk about The rapture of the church and basically give a reason why we believe In a pre-tribulation rapture of the church now Just to repeat There are different positions we go back to this little chart here You know, there are those who believe So we believe the rapture of the church takes place before the start of the seven years of tribulation There are some who believe the rapture will take place in the middle of the tribulation And we will see as we go just get an overview of the book of revelation One of their main reasons is because of what we read in revelation the 14th chapter And then there are some who believe the rapture will take place at the end of the tribulation That was a very historical position meaning many of the people In the early, you know, historically the early church fathers um believed that opposition that and So they they thought it's off the ramp to the church taking place at the end of the tribulation. So I'll hold on to that as well The The challenge with that is jesus said i'll come and receive you to myself. He's talking about mansions So if it happens here and then we straight away are on the earth Then we don't get a chance to visit our mansions in heaven And so, you know, that becomes a big question mark as well, but there are some who hold it So our position is the pre tribulation Right the pre tribulation As opposed to the mid tribulation or the post tribulation rapture of the church So why do we believe in a pre tribulation? Why do we believe in a pre tribulation rapture? of the church Now we're going to give Certain reasons. I think there are six of these main reasons But within each of these reasons are additional reasons that are kind of, you know, tied in So if you break them all down, you could probably list more than six You could probably list 10 or more reasons. So if you want to itemize them But I've clubbed You know several regions together under one main heading So we have like six reasons, but there are actually many sub points in there and they can You know, I if you if you if you decide and make it like look like a long list You can itemize all of them as individual reasons but number one the main or number one and very important reason We find in second Thessalonians chapter two versus one to ten Okay, let me just Say good morning to everybody All right, everybody. Good morning. Welcome. You're all with me so far. What we're going to do today We're going to go looking at The reason for the pre tribulation rapture the church. Okay. Good. Let's get started Let's go. So could somebody read for us Second Thessalonians chapter two Verses one through ten, please Second Thessalonians chapter two versus one to ten Now brethren concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to him We ask you not to be soon shaken in mind Or troubled either by spirit or by word or by letter As if from us as though the day of christ had come Let no one deceive you by any means for that day will not come unless the falling away comes first And the man of sin is revealed The son of perdition who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called god Or that is worshiped so that he sits as god in the temple of god Showing himself that he is god Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things and now you know What is restraining that he may be revealed in his own time For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work only he who now restrains until He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way And then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will consume With the breath of his mouth and destroy with the brightness of his coming The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of satan with all powers science and lying wonders And with all unrighteous deception among those who perish because they did not receive the love of the truth That they might be saved Hmm All right, it's a very interesting passage because the apostle paul is writing Of course by the revelation the holy spirit and he's giving us details Uh, now just to keep in mind remember This is paul's second episode to the thessalonians So he has been physically in thessalonica As part of his missionary journey So he has spent time ministering to them and while he was there personally He has already spoken to them about the end times. He has already told them about the coming of the lord Then he has written the first episode First thessalonians Where we read in chapter four and chapter five He's gone into detail to Write down which most likely is all he's spoken to them and he was there in person To write down about the rapture of the church the coming of the lord and how the our bodies would be changed We will be caught up to meet the lord in the air And then he continues in first thessalonians chapter five that that coming of the lord Uh, it happens like a thief the night meaning we can't predict When that's going to happen, you know, uh, he uses another picture of a woman who goes into labor So he says, you know, it's it's it's unpredictable We know what's going to happen, but we just don't know when So our responsibility is to be ready and we have this assurance That god has not appointed us to wrath but to obtain salvation through our lord jesus christ. So he he states all that in first thessalonians Now we are reading second thessalonians where He Goes back to that same team about the coming of the lord. So in verse one of chapter two He says now brethren coming concerning the coming of our lord jesus christ and our gathering together To him. So he's picking up on what He has spoken to them While he was in person And what he has written to them already in his first episode So the reference point is The rapture what he has described in First thessalonians chapter four. So he's talking about that now brethren Concerning the coming of the lord jesus christ. This is second thessalonians chapter two verse one And our gathering together unto him. What is that gathering together? Our bodies are going to be changed in a moment of in a twinkling of an eye And we are going to be caught up to meet the lord in the air. That's what he's referring to that's the reference point So he says now i'm talking to you about that and verse two second That's what we have to do verse two says i don't want you to be shaken by You know if somebody says you know sends you a letter or something saying that now this has already happened You know, so there are a lot of rumors or misinformation being spread even in those days Just like we have Happening in our day in about so many things you know, so people were spreading all kinds of false information and so people you know believers were some believers were very disturbed like hey, did we miss the rapture did we Miss being gathered to get so paul is trying to tell them look Uh, you know, I let no one deceive you that's in verse three. It's like don't let anybody fool you Because that day will not come Unless certain things happen I mean that gathering together with the lord that day Will not happen Unless certain things So what are the certain things that he's looking for he says in verse three. There's going to be a falling away There's going to be people who will fall away from the faith, you know, and this is something paul has written Even in other places you will find it in You know first Timothy chapter 4 where he talks about that You know in latter times that People will depart from the faith first Timothy 4 1. I'm just cross-referencing. Okay. It's not in the notes now I'm just going a little off the notes He mentions, you know in first Timothy 4 1 he says Uh, you know in the latter times people depart from the faith They'll give heat to seducing spirits and On doctrines of demons and again he mentions in a second episode Timothy's a second Timothy Chapter three and verse one. He says in the last days Perilous times will come any difficult times will come and men will be lovers of themselves second Timothy chapter three He describes the very nature of men, which you know It's so much like what we are seeing happen today. Men will be lovers of money and uh, you know, they will be Haters and so on and so forth Anyway, so that's what he's talking about going back to second Thessalonians chapter two and verse three There's the falling away People are going to be drawn away from the faith Right, so he says that's one indicator and even Jesus mentioned that in Matthew 24. He said, you know, one of the signs Is what? uh There will be many who come to come come saying i'm christ i'm christ and they will deceive even the very elect You know, so deception will be at a high level people will be departing from the faith the love of many will be growing cold That's what paul is saying here. There's a falling away then The the man of sin the son of perdition The lawless one so he uses different terms to refer to the antichrist the man of sin The lawless the son of perdition the lawless one. He has to be revealed He also has to come into the forefront And this is the man who is going to sit in the temple of god This is uh second Thessalonians chapter two verse four Where he is now referring back to Daniel's prophecies so daniel has spoken about this this Little horn a leader will come This you'll read about in daniel chapter seven chapter eight chapter nine and again in chapter 11 daniel talks about this This antichrist Who's going to set himself up in the temple of god? He's going to speak boastful things Against the you know against the god of heaven. So paul is referencing him here in second Timothy four He says so that's the other thing that has to happen. This lawless one has to be revealed. He has got to come but verse six There is something that's restraining this lawless one from coming emerging into visibility And he who restrains That's worse seven Has to be taken out of the way verse eight and then The lawless one will be revealed And then he jumps to the end of the tribulation chapter verse eight Whom the lord will consume with the breath of his mouth that's revelation chapter 19, which happens at the end of the tribulation But the lawless one will be in action for seven years But there is something worse seven That is restraining this lawless one this mystery of lawlessness This lawless one was you know who's to be revealed something the restraining keeping him from being revealed And when he who now restrains is taken out of the way Then the lawless one in the reveal now The big question is Who is paul referring to as He who now restrains We have two options It could refer to the church Or it could refer to the holy spirit the person of the holy spirit now There are some who believe that Verse seven is referring to the person of the holy spirit that the holy spirit is taken out of the earth But then if that would be true then And of course one of the key verses they would use is from genesis I think it's after six where it says You know god says my spirit will not always strive with the man this is in genesis six and Verse three You know so they use that as a scripture and I've mentioned it as well They say okay in genesis six three god said my spirit would not always strive with man So a second that's when it's two seven refers to the person of the holy spirit When the holy spirit is taken out of the earth Then antichrist will be revealed the church will still be here On the earth Now that's a big problem Imagine you and me Being on the earth without the holy spirit First of all, we would all be spiritually dead Because we are born Of the spirit And roman's eight says if any man have not the spirit of christ He is none of us. This is uh, let me give you the exact words. So, you know that It's in the bible roman separate And Verse nine If anyone does not have the spirit of christ He's not so if the holy spirit is taken away and the church is left on the earth without the holy spirit What will happen to the church? Would we have any strength at all? First of all, we would not be born again because You know without the holy spirit. We are dead We don't belong to christ It is the holy spirit who's a seal of redemption on our lives and he is the Down payment of our salvation So imagine the holy spirit is taken out of the earth the church is left here without the holy spirit That's just you know Unfathomable we can't think of that Secondly, uh, as you read through the book of revelation, you will find That there are many indicators in the book of revelation that the holy spirit is at work On the earth during the tribulation and I have mentioned some of the people go through it The Oh, where did I put it? Maybe it comes. Oh, yeah You know, so we see Uh, you know, okay, let me let me go in the order of the notes. I'm jumping Without on my own Okay, let me so so there are those who believe that the holy spirit is taken out of the way Are the that the he who refers to or seven is the holy spirit And but then there are there's a problem with that if the holy spirit is taken out of the way What'll happen like I said to the church and secondly, there are clear indications in the book of revelation that the holy spirit Is at work on the earth during the tribulation which we will go through So the only option we have the only logical conclusion we can come to From 2nd thessalonians 7 to 2 verse 7 That the one who's going to be taken out of the way is the church This is in keeping with paul's original thought What was his original thought in verse 1? He says The coming of the lord and our gathering to him So that's his original thought chapter 2 verse 1 so The he who now restrained after 2 verse 7 We say when I say we say mean I say personally and I'm sure there will be those who also agree with this That It refers to the church Now there is a problem there because usually in all our minds Let me talk about the church. We think about the bride of christ, which is feminine But then that we can resolve very simply because the church is the body of christ, which is masculine So it's okay to use a masculine pronoun The he To refer to the church has nothing wrong with it because the church is the body of christ It just as it is the bride of christ So and and and remember that it's it's not about the gender the church has no gender the church is a You know, it's a it's a body a spiritual body of believer. So don't you know, we shouldn't get So fixated with the gender that is used with a he or she There's different you know the different Pictures of the church of the bride of christ the body of christ as the army of god as a family of god as The lamb stand as the wine as the house of prayer and all very various pictures used for the church. So it's not about the gender So that itself shouldn't Compel us to say it's not the church Okay, so let's look at reasons. Why do we say This is a reference to the church, you know, like each of these points can be highlighted independently But I've just clubbed them all under this one main point Now jesus clearly stated the holy spirit will remain with us forever Let me see if he will remain with the church So it is an impossibility for the holy spirit to be taken out of the earth and the church left behind It's an impossibility because jesus said the holy spirit will be with the church forever Okay, so the holy spirit and the church goes okay, but then like we said There are valid reasons in revelation while the holy spirit is still at work on the earth. We will come to that second reason why second this learning separate two or seven refers to the church is because like I said the original thought is Overgathering together unto him That's what the context of what paul is writing about and so it's just very logical That word seven refers to our gathering together to him. That is the church is gathering together to meet the lord The third is the church is called salt and light which is a very very clear picture of having a preserve preserving and a preventive effect on the earth salt and light Which is you know to the church is the restraining one here because it's salt It's light And when the salt and light's taken out then the lawless one the man of sin the son of perdition is manifested So this one i've already explained here that It's okay to use a masculine pronoun to refer to the church because the church is also referred to as the body of christ And You know like I mentioned The holy spirit is still at work on the earth through the tribulation Why do we say that now the holy spirit is omnipresent it's present everywhere So there's absolutely no problem for the holy spirit to be present here on earth During the tribulation while he's also you know, he's present everywhere. He's god in heaven and he's god all over and The outpouring of the spirit Continues through the last days right and acts Joel 228 in acts 2 in fact joeville 2 is right goes on it says, you know When you read the whole passage in joeville 228 he talks about he says in the last days I'll pour out my spirit on all flesh And this is young men will see visions. So all men will dream dreams Upon my servants and my handmaidens will have poured out my spirit And then he immediately jumps to the signs and the wonders in heaven which are all about Things that will happen during the tribulation and I will show signs in the heavens above and on the earth beneath So during this outpouring of the holy spirit that are going to be signs in heaven above and on the earth beneath Which is very descriptive of the tribulation. The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood red You'll see all of that in the book of revelation Which means the outpouring of the holy spirit is continuing throughout The tribulation till the very last hour of the tribulation So that's why the whole outpouring of the holy spirit continues another important reason Is because we will see in revelation 7 that there are 144 000 jews who are sealed by god and The seal of god can be interpreted in the context of the new testament only as two things It is the presence and the work of the holy spirit and it is the name of the lord so These 144 000 jews Will have the presence of the holy spirit, which is clearly referred to as the seal of god And the name of god so their carriers of it in the lord as new testament You and I have the same thing. We have the holy spirit and we have the name of jesus These 144 000 jews will have the seal The presence of the holy spirit and the name of the lord on their lives They'll be bearing the name of jesus christ throughout the whole earth during the tribulation There will be people who are saved and will turn to the lord going back to joe's prophecy It says it joe's prophecy ends like this and whoever calls upon the name of the lord will be safe Peter repeats that so during The outpouring of the holy spirit During the time when the sun is turned to darkness or the moon to blood red It says whoever calls on the name of the lord will be saved So during the tribulation people will be saved and you see in revelation six revelation seven revelation 15 ever sin 20 There are those who are being saved and are turning to the lord during the tribulation And people cannot be saved apart from the holy spirit There's no other way Because we are born of the spirit To the holy spirit has to be at work to empower these people and Yeah revelation 12 It talks about The specifically about the jewish believers It's just the dragon satan He went to make war after the her offspring that is the jewish believers And they keep the commandments of god and the testimony of jesus christ This is relation 12 17 And what is this phrase testimony of jesus christ? It's referring to the spirit of prophecy revelation 1910 So for these jews They will keep the commandments of god and Believe in jesus christ that testimony of jesus is the spirit of prophecy. That's the holy spirit Who's at work? For to save these jewish people and that's right there in the middle of the tribulation revelation 12 And the last thing we see The to prove that the holy spirit will be at work during the tribulation is in zachariah 12 8 to 10 and the lord returns And this is on the battle of america and very clearly Those who pierced him will see him. That's the jewish people and They will mourn But god will pour out his spirit of grace and supplication upon them. This is clearly the holy spirit And this is happening right there at the end of the tribulation So for all of these reasons, I don't know if he's on two three four five Six maybe six reasons. Yeah sub reasons We say very clearly Holy spirit is going to be at work on the earth during the tribulation And the one who's restraining the antichrist from coming forth is the church And when the church has done its job of bringing the gospel to the nations It will be taken out of the way And then the man of sin the lawless one the son of perdition will come forth So this is a very clear and compelling reason why we say the rapture will take place before The tribulation Okay, so let me pause here and take any questions on the first point uh rupa is that um, sorry is that a question or I see a comment Sir, it was in the beginning when you have asked I understood after you have explained. Thank you Yeah, no problem Okay, uh any questions on this first point from second Thessalonians chapter two versus one to 10 Did everybody get it? Maybe everyone's raptured Okay, you got it Okay all right, so Just imagine if I'm doing to us and that we get raptured I won't even know if you're not there Anyway Okay, so This is one reason And it's I think it's a very bitty Hmm compelling reason that You know The church is taken out of the way and then The lawless one is revealed right that is the anti crisis. Okay So that's just that's the first reason. Let's just look at the other reasons. Let's try to finish this quickly Okay, I gotta share my screen Okay So that's the reason number one Reason number two again is found in the book of Thessalonians itself and it's something we had referred to last class Where um And we can do this quickly because uh Be we've seen this so In in his first episode to the Thessalonians Sorry Paul as he's as he's writing to them and he's Going to write to them in detail about the coming of the lord Which he did in first Thessalonians chapter four when he described christ will descend from heaven and you know Our bodies will be transformed and we will meet him in the air he prefixed And suffixed that means there's a Pre order an early statement and a post statement This is how he prefixed that whole passage about meeting the lord in the air In first Thessalonians chapter one And we're stand he says we are to wait for his son from heaven To be raised from the dead even jesus Who delivers us from the wrath to come? So we're waiting for jesus for what? So that we can meet him after we go through the wrath the judgment No, no, no We are waiting for him The one who's been raised from the dead because he is going to deliver us From the wrath to come that means his coming Is in order to rescue us deliver us From the wrath to come That is in chapter one Then in chapter four he describes in detail how that coming would be which we read And then in chapter five He repeats that he says God Did not appoint us to wrath But to obtain salvation Through our lord jesus christ So whether we are alive whether we are alive or we're dead We're going to live together with him So comfort one another with these words So here again so Before talking about the rapture and after talking about the rapture He emphasizes the same point That is the coming of the lord is in order to deliver us From the wrath to come And what is the wrath to come? It's We can say look the whole purpose is he's coming to take us out of the way So that the judgment that is going to be poured out on the earth. We don't have to go through it We don't have to go through that judgment He's coming to deliver us Now if this wrath to come was only about hell then He could have just said look you believe in jesus and you die in jesus will be saved from hell It's We don't have to worry about his coming Because anyway, if you die in christ, you're going to be saved from eternal hell So this wrath to come cannot refer just to eternal hell because That anyway We have been saved So we just die and yeah, we're saved from eternal hell die in christ I say But the focus is here on his coming In order to deliver us from the wrath to come Therefore it's not just Eternal hell that he's referring to but it's the wrath that will be poured out or the judgment that the word wrath is old English word just talking about the judgment of god. So The judgment that would be poured out on the earth So he has a second reason. It's the promise to the church, which is of course, it's in the letter to the Thessalonians the same thing you find in the promise to the church in revelation chapter three and as the lord, you know, so In revelation chapter three, we will go give an overview of revelation In revelation chapter three And the lord is speaking to you know in revelation chapters two and three speaking to You know the seven churches and to each church is having a message And to the church In philadelphia. So one of the seven churches He's telling them And to each one he's promising them a reward and when you look at this church, he says because you've kept my command to persevere I will also keep you from The hour of trial which will come upon the whole world To test those who dwell on the earth Behold i'm coming quickly Hold fast what you have that no man may take your crown What did he say? I will keep you from so the word from in the greek simply means out of not As opposed to going through So if he says I will keep you as you go through you don't use the word dear But he says I'm keeping you from I'm out of Egg right So I will keep you from I'll take you out of this out of what The hour of trial which will come upon the whole world To test those who dwell on the earth Now so we don't know for sure. Okay. What's he referring to the hour of trial The only key we can go by is Two things one is It's something that comes upon the whole world Meaning it's a it's something that affects everybody So He's not talking about some local trouble Okay, there will be persecution In your area and I'll preserve you from that. He's not talking about something local He's talking about something that's going to affect the whole world He's gonna I'm keeping you I'm going to keep you from that It's going to affect everybody who dwell on the earth So that's the key and the second one is It has to do with this I am coming quickly So when you put these two together if he had just said look, you know It's going to come on everybody So just stay you know, don't worry. I'll take you out. I'll just take you out That's one thing but when it's put in context with his coming Then we can understand that He's keeping us From what's going to come on the whole world Has to do with his coming. I'm coming quickly to take you out of this This this trial that's going to affect everybody and the only thing That we are aware of which is going to affect the whole world is The tribulation As you will see in revelation. It's it's a global thing worldwide It it will be felt Worldwide people be affected quickly the other one Is the exhortation and typology used in 1924 that means When you and we've gone through this Matthew 24 you look at You know Jesus Whole description of the end times, you know that the disciples asked him lord What would be the science of your coming and then he goes through the science And you can trace it very clearly that there is the first part which are the signs leading up to the tribulation Then there is the part that deals with the tribulation And there's a part that deals with the end of the tribulation The battle of Armageddon the coming of the Son of man in the clouds of heaven And then he goes into exerting so just be ready, you know, you don't know when this will happen. So the general exhortation But in this discourse of the end times Very interesting as Jesus says that in Matthew 24 15 when he starts talking about The beginning of the end he says as So he says of that day and hour no one knows But as the days of nova So also will the coming of the Son of man be so he's giving us a clue here. He's saying look all of this there is some some parallel or some similarity With what happened during nova's time. So that's the clue. He's giving us Of how things will play out He says as the days of nova. That's how it's going to be About the coming of the Son of man in the days of nova They were eating drink all they're all, you know busy with things What happened people entered the ark The people who were ready the ark shut judgment was poured out Then the ark opened and these people came So he says that's how it's going to be. In other words, there's some similarity So we have to kind of draw the parallel Oh people are eating and drinking The rapture takes place the ark Is the rapture the place of safety? We are taken away the church is taken away The church is taken away And judgment is poured out on the earth Then And that is over We come back to the earth. So that's the parallel So that's the typology. So it's not like every detail, you know, okay only two believers will go in You know that that don't get into those details and that's absurd but the Picture that's painted the parallel of the typology that is given is People are enjoying life They're oblivious to what's going to happen But those who already get into a place of safety, they're taken out of the place of judgment Judgment happens judgment is over. Then the people are released back And that's a powerful picture of the rapture of the church or the church being taken out of the way and released back to the earth after the tribulation Number five Let me try to cover this one. Okay Um, I think we'll do this right after the break And because I need to explain this a bit Uh, let me pause here and see if everybody's following with me Okay, okay, let me take up this question. I see in the chat Yeah, Elisha said what role would the Holy Spirit play in the salvation? Those who call on the name of the Lord in the tribulation so The Holy Spirit will do everything That he's doing right now in the church Through believers during the tribulation People will be saved They will speak in tongues They will have visions dreams and prophecies everything, you know, joble chapter 2 acts chapter 2 talks about it everything There will be signs wonders and miracles done through the believers Which we know Especially in the second half of the tribulation, there'll be the two witnesses And they will be empowered by the Holy Spirit to do miraculous signs wonders and miracles So everything the Holy Spirit is doing through the church today will continue through believers in and during the tribulation except that it'll be very hard and very difficult To be a believer and you'll be persecuted and killed Okay, so the work of the Holy Spirit will continue But we say it's The end of the church age because the church is officially taken out of the way But there will be believers, but they will be empowered with the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will empower them Right, it's going to be difficult but We see this happening and many of them will be martyred will be killed um during the tribulation Shikumaya question, please Thank you pastor as we discussed that As Jesus has said this word in the revelation even in the revelation also that um that I will Take you out from that wrath or that tribulation Even last week also. I asked this question that Is it that um any any believer can be is it possible that the believers can be left behind? I need a little I have a small doubt on that again because of Matthew 25 which says about 10 virgins where the fiber could able to meet the bride room and Others fiber left behind so how can I can I understand this this parable like um, you know the On the understanding of that every believer's will be taken But uh, there will be no left left behind. Thank you Yeah, so Jesus gave us several parables In the context of the end time so essentially from the latter part of Matthew chapter 24 Through Matthew chapter 25 He's giving us several different parables in connection to the End times So he draws the parable about and and and the intent the intent of each of these is simply this Be ready And be faithful so He talks about a householder a man who's put in charge of the house Yeah, this is a Matthew 24 You know take care of your house be ready because you don't know when the master is coming back But he's put you in charge so be ready be faithful Then he talks about these 10 virgins And Again the the intent of it is be ready be faithful Because you don't know when the bride groom is coming and so he's using the picture of these 10 virgins where It was the unpreparedness of five of them They caused them to be left behind And that means they were not ready for the coming of the Lord So What I want to say is The intent is readiness and faithfulness now Can we take that to say That there would be some believe to take that to mean to say that there would be some believers Who would be left behind? My big question is You know how we define a believer I think that's where the difference is If a person is generally a believer and living the way a believer should live meaning They are of course handling their responsibilities on earth But they're living in a state of readiness and being faithful. They will not be left behind So that's which is which which is what a believer should be doing whereas if there are people who May hear the gospel they may even attend church You know as as a ritual or as a social thing or as a But they're really not believers. They're not born again. They haven't committed to them so so a lot Then obviously, you know, they're going to be left behind Because even though they heard the gospel They were They just didn't respond to it Could there be so the question is could there be people Who have been born again? but Would be left behind that's a little difficult to answer because It really depends on you know How God how the Lord is going to look at them because if they are born again, they're saved and they love Jesus now, maybe They may not be living very much like a christian or so on so that what I would say is We will let the Lord handle that Because otherwise we would be passing judgment on people That we really don't have any right to our goal is of course to bring people to a place of faithfulness and preparedness and you know Living With undivided focus on the Lord. That's our goal as ministers but You know to pass a judgment saying look if you don't meet this particular sign if you don't cross this line here You will get left behind. That's a little dangerous thing to do You know for us as people and we we should let the Lord decide on that so If you ask the question is it possible the answer will be yes But what is the line? Let the Lord decide, you know I don't want to say well You know if you look on a temperature scale of zero to ten if you're at three you'll get left behind And if you're at four you cross the line We shouldn't say that just leave it to the Lord Yeah So maybe uh, okay, if you want want to just clear and direct answer Clear and direct answer is yes Uh, but where is the line? What is the temperature? I don't know and I we shouldn't judge I'll just leave it to the Lord. Thank you. Thanks a lot. Thank you Okay, I see there's a there's a question there from Elisha So what we will do is this we'll go for our break Uh, we'll come back in 10 minutes. We'll take up the question from Elisha And any other questions on you know What we've covered so far and then we will move forward with other reasons on On why we believe in the rapture of the church before the tribulation. Okay, so see you in 10 minutes. Thank you