 Did y'all get some nice sleep? No, uh, no kind of Okay, I don't know. Yeah, I slept really long the day before but today and I got decent amount But I'm not yeah, give me a minute and it'll be fine about eight and a half right before we started So it's just a perfect little layup Yeah I was talking about Like definitively nocturnal at this point once again, I did fix my sleep schedule about two weeks ago, but then it got destroyed all right, I Feel like there are there are some benefits to being nocturnal that I might not be fully aware of But it seems like just being totally out of sync with like the rest of the world Yeah, the world shuts the fuck up You're more difficult to see when you're foraging at night That's true But you have to deal with owls and stuff Yeah Yeah, but you know, I mean, I don't know what an owl is gonna really do to me I mean, you know, he could stop pecking at you. Just like get out of here. I'm trying to hunt for rats Like I get away from me I'd be swatting at him and then I hit him once and he died because it's a bird Hey, I think that if you pit an owl once that wouldn't kill an owl Tacky, you know, yeah, now we might be like right now. It's personally pulls out Like how big I'll get I think they can get reasonably big just Isn't a barn owl pretty big. I think so owls are awesome by the way I feel like I've never been mentioned on because I don't think we've ever talked about owls on eFat But like owls are pretty great. I really like owls They're a cool bird quite a distinctive look Yes, they do They the creature where you can stare into the the side of the head and almost see their brain or something or the back of their eyes I think is that that's true They do that. Yeah, through the ear. You can see the back of their eye I'm not sure if that's owls or a different specific animal, but I remember like I know they turn their head around like that's their like big gimmick They're like a turn of their head totally 180. Yeah, I do like We kind of as if creatures we all have gimmicks like it's like what does that one do? Like if an alien was being explained, it's like Moldy you're like it can dig it digs a lot Like what's the deal with dolphins? Oh, they like they jump in the air like they jump out of the water and they were a smart What about humans? Oh, they're all gimmick. Yeah, we just anything. They're just a pile of gimmicks That's how we kind of won and the aliens like doesn't seem fair. It's like well We didn't make the rules Happy new year indeed Oh, yeah, right. This is 2022 people. This is the first stream of 2021 2020 won't you where things are gonna be great. That's why I won't kept saying they must be right, right? I'm gonna get some good news once per week And then they have crystal balls that those like oh here we go now I got my crystal ball and most people have access to spiders So they probably have been communing Getting information here and there depends how much they gave away the wolf spider. Oh, yeah, those guys they know Wait, wait, Fringy. What the hell does the kiwi bird do? like Yeah, what's the gimmick of the kiwi room? It's like a tiny little Flatless bird that just is like a big kind of like firm ball except the bird equivalent and it has like a long beak That's a kiwi bird It's like it's like a mini cute emu That's that's like the way that I would describe it and of course the emu's gimmick is it can't fly That's like the big gimmick. Casuaries gimmick is that it can kick through metal sheets with its toes It's the the cassowaries gimmick is it's a dinosaur basically Like they do they're like we should test out on like human flash if it works and look at subject guys It's like no no no Yes The little holding cell Hey chat, did you how many of you are even aware that there is a boba fat reaction out already so I won't my goodness We put it out at a very bizarre time because if that was happening soon after and I was like, oh Gonna have clashing videos and yes, Betty White did did pass away. Unfortunately Yeah, the season finale of 2021 apparent. I want to see the book of Betty White. Oh, yeah, that'll be way better Well, I mean I want it. Yeah, I want to see the the combat would be way better I mean, I hope that this because wasn't weren't they planning like a big special for a hundredth birthday Like they got some people go loads of the mid like two days ago They've got loads of guests and stuff I saw a list like Clint Eastwood is in there and you know That's in those interviews one of the questions to prompt them is probably like now that she's you know 100 years old. What does it mean to look back about? You know, they go have to cut all of that Like cuz making it to a hundred is really really really really special, but Everyone's a word, but she just didn't it's like Sad but from what I saw from reading she died in her sleep So it's like one of the best ways to go. I think that's the only way that death could get her is when she was sleeping Yeah, I Imagine death is probably pretty chill with her is like hey pretty awesome It's so weird. Well, yeah, I mean my fight the impressive Possibly my favorite role for her is when she becomes like a psycho teacher in community. Oh, that was great Yeah, I'm I'm gonna like attack you with this and I want you to use respect to defend yourself And then like immediately just yanks his foot up into the air and chokes out. Yeah, I Respect you. That's why you fail She's great. Yeah, this is nice wholesome great funny woman on It was either I think it was Friday night tights They were showing like the even for Betty white there are people on Twitter who are like Since she was a really age since she was of that era pretty sure she was very racist It's like man, just what is what is wrong with your mind when you're like most against humans that man that is I don't know You need to like get off Twitter. You need to delete that app. You've got to like go the Find them Thank you. They're gonna come to you. Oh My god is the queen next Well queen. Oh, yeah, she's she's been as was said on that stream, too She's been old for like a hundred years They said which for the first president she met I was like pretty sure it's George Washington, but you know, I'll be sure But you know, she'll be around for another 10 million years, I'm sure So Welcome to eFap number 167 who knows what exactly we're gonna get up to today Or rather, I guess I do know exactly what we're giving up to but We can never be sure that we'll get through everything that's on the table And so we will be starting this episode with a poll and you believe it For dancing Not quite First of all, I'd actually be interested in polling You guys to see what the results are but we're gonna do chat as well But if you knew you had to watch Either high-top brown table or movie Bob's opinion on spider-man no way home, which would you choose to enjoy? Which of these delectable tasty treats is right for you. Yeah Yum, we have to enjoy one of them. Mmm. Yeah I'm gonna allow you to pretend for a moment that you don't have to suffer through the other two so Three of you which which would you pick? me I think they want us to cover I This is which one we want or which one do we think they want us to do well Do you think that if we answer the question we could sully the votes potentially and so you'd rather stay? Let the crowd decide Yeah, we'll stay quiet until the poll is over. Okay. I mean, it's pretty clear who people want us to watch Haven't looked at what are they saying That's like movie Bob is like by far the most Here's the thing that was gonna be my guess. I think they want us to cover movie Bob That would be my guess whereas like in terms of the one that I find more interesting is like honestly high tops Just because that's like his whole shtick is spider-man There's like a whole conversation that can be had about Just this interpretation of this whole series but the difference between having the actual Yeah, versus that approach whereas with movie Bob. I think it is just like ha movie Bob You know movie Bob whose whose career is outshined Longevity it would be fucking incredible if we had footage of him scrolling through his twitter seeing his posts of being like I won I survived Another victory for movie Robert He just like carves another like cut onto his body or something No, I'm sure he eats a hamburger He eats a hamburger the celebratory There's what I was talking to Bragged about like how blown away I am by the genre of muck bang and How like anyone could consume so much fucking food that how anyone could just watch it like that's just the thing Oh, yeah. Yeah, but the mook bomb So much food gets wasted. Oh, yeah I thought the idea was that they had to consume everything Eat it off. Well, I assume since they bought so much Yeah, well, I think it depends on who you're watching right because some people like do the mook bang thing But you know like and you'll see like the woman and they're incredibly like they're clearly pretty healthy And it's like, oh, this is like your job, right? So you do this and then like you stop and then you actually, you know, like take more care of yourself But then there are some people who just like themselves Form it at all Well, maybe and then you've got like some people who just clearly just want to eat like all the food Like Terrible lifestyle Because we were talking about how like when you get to a size where your body just goes Yeah, we'll store some fat in your um in your eyes, I guess Because they don't know what else to put it Oh god, isn't people so fat that they just eat and eat and eat their bodies like I guess we're just storing fat in your Forehead now, I guess Because we just don't have any place for it. I guess I guess it's surely it gets concerning when it's like man Like 10 steps. Oh that was that took a lot like that's get really concerning, you know, it's like, oh my god Who is just that good that could eat yourself to the point of not being able to move anymore Have you guys tried to sit down and watch like a whole muck bang from like start to finish I don't think I'm one or so fucking grown. Yeah, that's like you could probably find any video by like nicocotta avocado And it's just like the actual like pig just rolling around. It's so nasty. What a disgusting human being It's cruel because like I think the first thing I said to you guys is just like they are Actually just killing themselves But I know that's a lot of the because like a lot of creators have made videos about that like Nicocotta avocado killing himself and stuff But he's bizarre as a creator like uh I don't know if it's a character or not But like the damage he's done to himself is is like, you know, that's not a joke Is it like that you it's not in the playing you're not playing a character You're literally gaining like a whole several people's worth of weight It's just water weight. He'll cut right true true um The one I said like it's clearly a fetish thing. That's his theory I was like, maybe I have no fucking clue. I've never understood it. I got like the I understood the um the eating competition people Who are like, can I Get through 10 hamburgers within two minutes? You're like, oh my god, can you? But um people just like listen to me squelch through all of my food slowly Squelch. Yeah, those are squelchy people Mm-hmm Those people fit the shape of their container they um And uh, there's there's an element of is the is the algorithm to blame is is it the people? Is it the audiences that are to blame? I mean What's interesting is that I can say a word and youtube will like punish me and demonetize me and kick me off their platform But youtube will allow these people to basically just kill themselves In front of a cheering clapping audience I feel like the immediate thing to point out though is that that's not like that's just youtube like doing what is Society-ly deemed okay Like I don't even know that that's like a you know, like the problem starts somewhere else You know, it's not like it doesn't start with youtube You know it starts with uh youtube is Allowed it to to exist through having let other things exist that we actually want to like because We wouldn't want youtube to restrict on exactly what you can do. I suppose beyond Because imagine trying to draw the line for that like you can eat on camera, but not too much that you gain too much weight you'd be like Well, it's well, it's the idea that youtube is like we're gonna we're gonna watch out for you And we're gonna take care of you and we want you to be we want our creators to be Healthy mentally and all that sort of thing. We're gonna you know They'll do all that stuff and then these people will just be killing themselves and just destroying their Whatever well, if you were in charge, would you would you make it so that his videos don't enter the algorithm to discourage the success And thus no, I think I would just be more consistent throughout In what way Like I wouldn't ban people and restrict videos on such That like what happens when the ad starts pulling out though Like what if what if an advertiser sees something that gets clipped or it's like, ah look He said something really offensive. We're pulling ads. Fuck you and then you look at your employees. Then what do you do? I don't know. I'd have to see the I don't like youtube's a lot of youtube's decisions either But like if it was like people often forget that youtube is a business Like that they need to keep the lights on And that the service that they provide is like super useful I'm certainly not convinced that a lot of the videos that are demonetized are actually part of that ad issue at all Uh, I mean, I guess it's hard to say right is like because we're not there. We don't get to see the conversations But that's what they say Yeah, and I just I don't believe it for a fucking second. Well, sure But I mean youtube youtube is not like As strict on these things as a lot of other platforms are Like there's a lot of stuff on youtube that isn't allowed on like twitch or on twitter Or on a lot of other places In some ways we like youtube seems to be more vague than twitch Yeah, I think so, which I guess is beneficial and not beneficial. It's like if there's no line How is it I someone said it's not a good argument because youtube loses money It's like surely that's a better argument, right? You don't want to keep losing even more money I don't get that Really, I'm assuming you were just trying to give a hypothetical for where how do you balance Um the platforms longevity and the employees Wages versus Exactly and I guess You know at this point it seems like applying the standards consistently Like on any platform It's like the rules are vague on purpose Um, so anyway, you ever wonder if youtube should like email these people like maybe if it's thinking of nothing against the rules But they email them and say hey, this is, you know, britney from youtube the creator support or whatever You know, we used to be watching your videos and uh You okay? Yeah, all right there You you ate 100 dollars of chick filet the other day and you cried and I was just You know Uh You all right there Is this a horrific cry for help? I mean, uh, what's going on Buddy, what's going on buddy? Oh pal We're making a video about it Apparently when anybody ever criticizes a nicocato, he makes a video eating stuff while responding Complaining me, but uh, you know, I I don't know what's going on with it. It seems like everybody I'm more angry at the people who watch it it is a weird forced industry almost and because Man people really do love watching Chung's people just eat food You're out there. There's probably a few in our audience right now Who uh, who are there like ha ha? Yeah, no, that's shit and then they just slowly start closing the well, maybe not even closing the tabs Oh, you know um, so anyway Today we're gonna we're gonna have to look at that Uh, one of these these videos at least and it does seem Is an overwhelming successful one of three In fact, it kind of dictated the uh, the order that we would watch them if we get through enough today, but Uh, movie Robert has won with 48 percent of the vote Uh, high top has 33 Brown table has 20 Brown table being the least popular of the three. I don't exactly know what the reasoning for that would be We all love brown table here. It's great um The numbers slightly changed me to complete it as well, but I think I think brown table I I would rather cover brown table than high top. I think I really I'm not I'm never sure about that. Uh, I don't know I think the reason why movie bob got the highest is because he's movie bob specifically like not anything to do with this Take necessarily I like actually just that yeah It's been a while since we covered it was other people already. It's only a small one for him I think it's like six or seven minutes. So I know that's easy Well, you say that but the problem is that he's the only creator we've ever had to actually put on slow down because we can't Comprehend he does the speed ramp thing for some reason How long is this video? his one is Seven minutes It's a fairly small video for an average person. Oh, yes Um, I've given out the uh, the watch together if everyone wants to jump in we got three right now Who be who be for someone's mister? Yeah, uh Alrighty, this is just a proper preamble for this spider-man came out move up has opinions on it. Let's see what they are Nothing can prepare you no Man, you've our productions presents. Okay, so this is the I'm sorry the audio quality is like unacceptable for a channel that's made around this long He's only been doing this for 36 years. It's that's not enough time to learn It makes me think if he's got the same microphone you had when he started like He just that he's like, you know, it's cost efficient. Never had to upgrade and you're like, okay um that I don't understand this That there's been no desire to like change it or improve the audio quality I don't need the but uh, here we go Okay, so this is the spoiler free review of the movie So it's gonna be short to the point But I just want to say up front again without explicitly I'm pretty sure he does have that accent, but it's never been this thick like it feels like he's uh, he's Sensuating it. I don't know why but um boiler Spoiler yeah, don't worry chasby spoiler free from his video It won't be spoiler free from us and I think that if you're worried about a spoiling spider-man in Been a while now Plus we talked about extra holy cap I'm so like, you know how Because now I'm just thinking about this because like the big thing with the movie bulb is that he just likes using a lot of Big words and long sentences Way too way too much. I'm even looking at this little thing and I'm like I feel like there are words that you could cut from this Like uh previously released. It's like, you know like In trailers or tv spots Yeah, exactly You know what I mean like but even released you could you know this reviewer spoiler three and does not include Any significant plot or story details? Uh that have not been revealed in trailers or tv spots Yeah, you're practically half the size and did the exact same thing. Yeah Elements of style read it elements of style Yeah, we read styles of elements Yeah, elements can have style like styles of like a font is like a uh, uh, well I mean in a certain sense carbon has a style, you know and like hydrogen and lithium and Uh, I guess compounds do as well What's yeah, you know like Like, you know, imagine you had like a runway and it had a whole bunch of atoms just walking down the runway It's like oh look at that that uh dress being sported by fluoride. It's it's gorgeous You say I don't think I can imagine that it's because you're weak-minded race. I can imagine it easily exactly About on this all dressed up. Mm-hmm. That's right. What's so hard to understand about that? I don't have a one can have a funny hat just a blank spot. I know absolutely. We got funny hats Dude stylish hats. What's they're gonna change fashion forever? Mm-hmm That's not actually part of the full movie that so many had about I think it's damn near the funniest thing I've seen all goddamn. Yeah. I couldn't be happier about it. Yeah I feel like he's definitely playing up the voice Isn't the man of audio or is he actually clipping? Um, it feels like he's very close to clipping. I thought yeah I can hear it too. I thought the video was jumping. I wasn't sure What kind of mind york I feel like it's it's I don't even think it's that I think it's like a headset microphone Yeah, like there's a microphone you used to have on the headsets when you were playing games like ps3 Like It's so bad Um, also, I have no idea what he's talking about that's something about like there's some in the movie He finds really funny. What is he talking about the full movie that so many people are so bad about This is going to be spoiler free despite the fact that everybody knows that uh, tome and andrew Yeah, people are mad about something in this movie. What's he's talking about? All right, I maybe we'll find out in the review but I because I have no idea Well, I can't hear that peaking too already. He is peaking in his microphone. Yeah Oh that one thing that's not actually part of the full movie When you're editing your video and like in vegas it goes red Does that not like make you do anything or do you just like not even notice? I don't understand the process here How is this okay? I guess he's just never even learned What it is that is the problem. It's just this was like a video There's never been a thing where every single time that he works on a project He identifies a new thing because I mean, you know, like I feel every time you do like a new project There's something to learn about how to get better for next time Maybe yeah, I guess I don't know. Maybe it is just like going through the motions For him because how long has been doing this for like like 10 years? We should cut him up and count the rings I'm pretty sure he started like he's one of the og youtubers or at least close to right And his format hasn't evolved since like 2009 Probably other than that, but yeah I want to say upfront again without explicitly spoiling anything involved that one thing That's not actually part of the full movie that so many people are so mad about I think it's damn near the funniest thing. I've seen all goddamn. Yeah, I couldn't be happier about it And everybody being so I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know. Yeah I have no idea. Yeah I'm maybe engaged and it's like that happened after this video came out so But also that's not in the film. Well, he said also that's not funny Okay, but is it funny? He's like is are people mad about that? Well, like I said, it's the timeline doesn't match up. So I don't think it's that Okay Yeah What that venom was in it and then wasn't and people were mad about that because I wanted him in it for more That is in the movie though I I I I have no idea. I don't know. You have to like fill in the blanks of what the fuck he's talking about Yeah, and his video hasn't even started what's going on about already imagine this is the first video you watch on youtube He said no spoilers Right mad just sit that much better Clip odds clipping really bad Well, your audio quality is so shit what it needs to be really good if all you do is talk Exactly like your whole job Ah Anyway Look at the look at the size of this Like the screen and where all the letters are on the screen. Are we gonna get like a title for this episode underneath? Oh, yeah I love this. It's it's it's like welcome to the fucking 90s almost like what the fuck Yeah, it's like a little we have entered in many ways A new year Right. It's like we are going into the future 2022 But also it's like we're going into the past Yeah time machine Go back to the year 2009 Well, I remember um when I did that the outlast review and I was looking at everyone's reviews of it It's like we had a lot of this where it's just like this was the thing to do at one point but um The aesthetic of like video essays and just videos in general everyone on youtube has gotten so much better Like this is just not acceptable anymore, but he's stuck it like so far back There you go, robert's nice Now man This is really annoying me like now because i'm looking at this just You've got like your logo, which is whatever but then to have the text come up with like the The the shadow on the back but white like against the black text And then the little reflections in the text as well And just like that's impact, isn't it? That's like the impact text. Oh my god, spider man. It looks so shit It looks awful. Like it looks cheap Seriously though just like peak like when you're doing stuff with text you don't need these things Okay, like the text is fine. You can you can get away with just having the text It looks like a movie maker preset Well, that's that's that's why it's better to just stick with the text and not do that much with it when you can Because like this just reeks of oh, it's not good enough that it's a text I need to like put more shit on it To make it look cool like You can do a drop shadow and that'll that'll be good enough like if you if you really need to do anything with it I I guess this is just Is the white and other glow I think so it's just like you know You don't need to do like a typography class But like if you just like watch maybe like one video on typography it'll it'll do wonders What are people saying it's off center as well? So we need to get off this uh Oh my goodness help people's mental sadness the big thing that's frustrating is there's more space in the bottom Beneath no way home than there is at the top for the big screen And there's no divider right There's no line to separate the title of the show from the title of the the episode There's not a big enough gap like this is a lot of just this is the it's I just I I think that on some level you intuitively understand that something is wrong with this image um Wow something. There's a lot of things. I don't like about this image. I think the music is the most music thing to me It's so old like it's so generic Yeah, it's a generic like like a like an early 90s piece de shooter like this is from the Like this is the stuff they cut out of the duke nukem soundtrack Like the first one They're like now this is just too generic and it's not gonna be good on our little computer game Just get rid of it and Bob's like i'll scoop that shit up. Yeah, you're right Like you look at doom soundtrack and they were like we got to be creative. We can't just be Shit I'll do the shit one Dude, it's like, you know, we have the option to go But we're not going to do that. We're going to do some cool little drum rhythms It's like what what no just use the riff like that's just sitting there in the corner like what's wrong with the guitar if it's great Listen to that. Well, he's I think he's been using it since 2000 like eight Why a it ain't broke don't fix it, right? Oh, it's someone. Oh my god. Someone's pointed it out the the on the big screen is misaligned Oh, yeah. Oh, you're right. The tea. Yeah, it should be Yeah, that's an that one's and that's an odd one because of the the e lines up a lot on the bottom The e lines up So that's the thing that you learn with like kerning and stuff like that is that sometimes you are actually An even gap between letters. Sometimes that's not what you want Sometimes you want to close up a little bit or make it a little bit bigger just because of the gaps that exist between like You know, like a t in an i Or like just some letters are much bigger than other letters And so you need to like tweak them and mess around and then you can have something that's not like fully Sensitive and even but just looks better, but he hasn't done anything here Like he hasn't He just he just put that he just maybe sent or aligned it Maybe even didn't do that just like moved his mouse over the screen so lined it up. It's like that's good enough It's just really bugging me. There's definitely a it's good enough color composition vibe from movie bomb videos And what's this in the background on the on the right here and just spilt popcorn built popcorn. Oh, that's stock image Oh, yes Imagine if he got like a really high quality rendered painting like of that just to have something a little bit unique I must have had some spending money to get assets, right? Well, because he used to work for the escape, right? Yeah, he used to work for the escape like he's he's had More than a decade and like this. Well, I guess that's the interesting thing right because you know Zero punctuation was and still is with the escape. It's like well. He's got like a format that's really cool um Lots of images lots of visual gags like a level a level of creativity to just like making of it And you know just videos look better themselves even as simplistic as they are um yeah, and then uh I guess I don't I don't understand like the the The lack of a desire to even like change or do anything different The colors are bugging me because it goes white black black white black. Yeah, yeah But um, we also have have this little bit of a news apparently. I don't know how verifiable this is, but I'm amused by the tweet Yo I'm not gonna get it on screen. Just That's hilarious As everyone knows the next dcu movie that's on the way New ones. Anyway, is that the flash right? I am right about that, right? I'm already fucking forgetting. Yeah, that's the flash That's what it's called. Now you got according to binge watch this hashtag the flash Will reportedly erase all of zaxnider's movies from the dcu meaning both aflac and cavill are gone Which is not the good part that ending bit there, but um I suppose you can say the good part is just um, they might be resetting their continuity, which is very much for the best at this point Uh, the mcu needs to do that as well to be fair But I just like god that's gonna piss people off quite a bit In fact, let's look at these quote tweets your sad face Crying oh no Our our horrific evil superman Is gonna this won't be canon The baby killing superman won't be the part of the official dcu. Oh no We'll see what happens. I mean, I'll I'll want to see the flash now just to Well for michael keaton, but also just to see if they actually go through with that Decanonize it. It'll be amusing, but um, you know The I don't know how many people on the internet will feel the same way as us, but you guys you've seen all of our dcu If our movies We're not fond. All right. It's shit. We're not the fondest we get is what we love at it. So yeah Zach Snyder's dc movies are Just dog shit. Oh the humanity They're so bad. Anyway, let us continue with this blast from the past. Oh, yeah Switch out no way home for like, you know, this is the first spider-man. It's like everything would have lined up so far I wouldn't be a good way to like that'd be a fun game to play You just ran someone randomly picked some movie bob video and you have to guess what year it was made They all look the same. How would you ever know? I guess you could guess from the the filmy's reviewing Maybe maybe you don't play that part So it's no secret that I regard what I guess we're supposed to I was gonna say like we've seen enough movie bob to know that this is unusual for him. Why is he cranking that accent so much Yeah, I don't get it. Come on, bob it. You don't want to get cringy vibes. Don't do it So it's no secret that I regard what I guess we're supposed to now consider the spider-man's solo home title pun trilogy As one of the most uneven franchises in the model cinematic universe. No, if anything, it is the most even I was gonna say like what do we compare this to if you look at iron man That's like iron man is super uneven captain america is like wow winter soldier Yeah, we consider it very uneven Thor is incredibly uneven like if you're gonna say that it's anything would be Thor Yeah, because look at ragnarok compared to the full one. You're like, what is I guess we definitely people different people made these Ant-man is more even in that it's nothing. It's just very I guess so you could call that even yeah once we get the three. Yeah, no This is not the most uneven one I still don't think coming was very good. I like tom Holland The movie is that great far from home is decent but still kind of all over the place and now no way home You kind of wrong there too, but It would depend on what he means. I don't know What is decent made in his world If he means like four to six then it's like then that would be more. Yeah Middleish he liked tlj, so But yeah, it's always bizarre to me tlj is great homecoming is pretty not very good though From away no contest the best of the series and still the best live action spider-man solo ish movie Anyone has attempted since sam raymie is pretty damn good. Wow. Wow Okay, it's too long but somehow ends up feeling rushed over stuff with both plot characters and unearned sense of self-importance, but also frequently Unearned sense of self-importance could that unearned sense of self-importance Is is the unearned because of the fact that it's just the multiverse that brings in all of these people in events or is he And Does he mean that the raymie and other the other Spider-man series Are they self-import? Have they earned their self-importance or Like is he trying to say that in contrast to the other series? Because like it's important to the m's storyline and especially spider-mans. I don't see I don't think we're gonna get an explanation for that. I think it's just Be sad. We'll have to move on We wait less Form for its own good and while getting into any more than the most general spoilers commitment when it comes to that marvel mandatory commitment to Self-wear metanarrative it can't quite square the circle of simultaneously be a tribute to the previous cinematic history. You need to I was following it. I was I but holy fuck It's too long the sentences are too long. I'm sorry. They're just too long. That's and they just run on Run on sentences that's how is that a thing? I don't know but it's a thing like that's all he does He loves doing it. I don't know why it's like he only writes with commas. No snowfall stops Like I it's really annoying. I don't like having to Please write shorter sentences He speaks so fucking fast and just never stops more than the most general terms would break the no spoilers commitment When it comes to that marvel mandatory commitment to self-wear metanarrative It can't quite square the circle of simultaneously be a tribute to the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies quasi integration of the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies and koi humble brag affirmation of how this current cinematic spider-man is The best fucking action So I can I can like head to parts of that by the time I think about it It's it's it's gone sounded like his point was saying that on one hand They're trying to be respectful and integrate old spider-man, but at the same time celebrate themselves as the spider-man I don't know why those two things can't coexist apparently it feels like I i'm still stuck on the fact that it took him that many words to explain something that's not that hard Well again, because I think that's it if we listen to him again Thank you. Is that is that what he's saying? We have to rewind like 30 seconds Well, this is this is how we did the movie both videos might be small But the covering of him can take a long time unfortunately He has to decipher that you have to like you have to listen to it multiple times just to catch it all Yeah meant when it comes to that marvel mandatory commitment to self-wear metanarrative It can't quite square the circle of simultaneously be a tribute to the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies quasi integration of the previous cinematic history of spider-man movies and koi humble brag affirmation of how History of spider-man movies. It's like the cinematic history of spider-man or spider-man previous spider-man movies Cinematic and movies in the same sense. It feels like Just you're wasting words It was cinematic. Of course, we're talking about fucking movies. That's what cinema is. Are you forgetting that it makes this video longer? Which is I guess We I guess that's the funny thing right it almost reveals like The sentences are so long and there's so many superfluous words that what is seven minutes, which is already short Is more like three like in terms of content that's here Yeah This could be a page cinematic history of spider-man movies and koi humble brag affirmation of how this current cinematic spider-man is the best One ever and why and all the so that's not really I don't think that's in the film That's present in the film at all. Yeah You could argue this film is if anything toby is considered the best because he's the most like well-rounded and completed But I don't think the film's choosing any one of them. Yeah, it's not taking sides Yeah, we like all of you even you like it's not your fault adrew beguire That bastard The reasons for this awkwardness are about the same as they've been the whole time We are watching what happens when the best superhero movie producing studio ever to do the job and uh Wow The best I mean Well, yeah, because if we're categorizing it like yeah, I guess they Well could even compare sony made in a certain sense sony. Well, I mean Like it's the spot of us. That's sony Yeah, but sony you've done lots of individual movies like nobody's done what the mcu's done yet So it's not even fair to compare really. Um I well, yeah, I guess I've come the closest fox They did a lot of x-men films and fantastic for and like and then at that point It's like do you think that the mcu as a franchise is superior to the x-men Franchise or at least I I wonder if you rewatch all the x-men films. It was like, hmm You know what like x-men not that inconsistent The mcu was higher highs but also lower lows Awesome. Well at this point low key fucking end game. I guess, you know, wow days of future past. That's the controversial one, isn't it? Like yeah, because everyone's that movie and it's not like it's got a lot of problems So has all of uncle's money to throw around has to share movie making duties with the crumbling remnants of sony pictures Reblance. Yeah, I think he said Reblance Remlance remlance to new batch Last valuable IP for dear life and continuing to them you say that but they won Like whether or not they would struggle like they have won they have control of a spider-man spider-man Shit tons of money. This This is this feel I feel like if we look past superhero movies That like that this is not a correct statement That like sony has nothing in terms of like its catalog or like anything that it's uh, I don't know I I guess the problem is i'm blanking right now. I still think he's wrong if he was just talking about movies He's saying this like they're desperately clinging to spider-man when it's like they've gone him He's theirs. Well, they yeah, I guess in the sense. It's like, well, it's not yours. It's like, well What does that mean disney bought marvel? Does that mean that marvel's not theirs because it used to be independent and belongs to someone else? They're making sputum in movies. How far back do we want to go? Yeah Wow, I mean look at how much money this movie has made more money than the rest of the phase four films combined Yeah Like pretty hilarious. I doubt that so he's sweating. You know like right now Oh, dude, I feel like they must have so much confidence. They've got so much leverage Look at how many movies they're making they've got like like three or four like other live action like Spider-man characters they're making like into the spider-verse sequel Like they're making tv shows. I think as well. It's like damn Didn't venom also do better in box office than like shang chi Yeah, the venom made more money than all of them. It made 500 million which is better than all of the other ones Sony are already making their universe. They're they're yeah, they're making that universe You know, it's so funny. They've siphoned off the emcee a little bit and now they can leave now Crumbling remnants of sony pictures clinging to the last value life I think some of those guys about to demonstrate how they became the crumbling remnants of sony pictures in the first place Like a time carpentry show where one builder is a master engineer with decades of experience And the other one just keeps slapping gobs of peanut butter and duplos against the wall and you can almost Which in this analogy, we'll see that's the problem if you're gonna use an analogy I need to know what it represents I don't I think he's saying that uh that like sony is the there's like the bad engineer and like disney marvel is Like the good engineer. I if anything, I think that's the reverse at this point um Well, I think that's the problem is there still seems to be this general consensus that like our marvel's competent It's like, I don't know at this point like with what's happening I guess competent in the sense that like Well, no not even because I was about to say like profitable It's like well the movies aren't making money, but like they're not making as much money as they used to Like you going oh, hey, that's great little buddy You're doing great But even if you don't know the Byzantine Hollywood stuff behind the scenes of these I still feel like something is off still comes What does he mean when he says Byzantine? Yeah, like what is Byzantine about? What an audit analogy So Byzantine means of a system or situation excessively complicated and typically involving a great deal of administrative of administrative detail All right, okay So in the sense like the spider-man movies are highly complicated from like a business standpoint because it's like shared responsibilities between two competing studios That is integrated into the ip belonging to one studio, I guess I assume so And in that sense it is complicated. It's it's because from what I understand like this is pretty unprecedented to have like two major studios Because saying it's Byzantine makes you sound smarter Oh Even if the even if the people who listen to it don't know what you mean. Exactly. Yeah Because a big smart comes before Like making a point that people can understand that's coherent Yeah, and you're not using it as an opportunity to like Explain the word which is like Byzantine and complicated You know, you didn't just say that or even if you don't know what Byzantine means You're like, oh, it probably means like complicated or something and you just carry on I think you could assume a couple things. You'd be like, maybe he means it's um Nepotistic or maybe he means it's yeah, it could be that a super antiquate or old and struggles with red tape or the Or that it's complicated, you know, you can go with a whole bunch and I think yeah An old inefficient system is probably if you were to ask me before I looked it up I probably would have said it's it is an old system of making things that is not ideal Yeah, um, but I I just don't know I've You know people who are going to be like us and who are going to stop and look it up and go to the second definition of it And be like, oh, that's what he means is probably a very very very low number because the by the time you do that He's already said 12 other sentences and I feel like you're just lost There are people who consume these they're in the comment section and they claim to enjoy it Um, I don't even know that they absolve anything that he says This is actually yeah, I do wonder it is it is difficult to get the points that he is saying He's too fast. Yeah, it was definitely too fast. Yeah I think he even speeds himself up. I'm not sure I think he does speed himself up. I don't This seems fed up Efeb has the hubris to judge god bob. We do Great little buddy, you're doing great But even if you don't know the Byzantine Hollywood stuff behind the scenes of these I still feel like something is off still comes through and yet Yeah, if you'll forgive the run on tangent this one works in spite of itself Just like the last one worked in spite of itself even more so this time and when it eventually gets to where it's going Which does kind of take a while so settle in. This is definitely a December paste blockbuster You know, you think Like I'm looking at just all this the background the logos the patreon thing I'm just It really is like a time machine. Yeah, the it's like you just stepped back in time to Is the patreon thing stretched? Well, I was gonna say it looks like anything that's compressed Oh, you mean the logo the logo was low res for sure. Look at it Look at that. How are we? How? There are so many high quality like patreon photos that you could just pull from google Background music as well is really funny. Yeah, it well, it's not just that Someone I guess someone snagged a movie bob on patreon before he got it So he had to have a one to his I suppose But I like to think that not to toot my own horn, but I like to think that I'm pretty good at getting Let's say faces drawn faces to match with audio, you know, I like to think I'm okay at that I've done it once or twice. Um when the faces when he puts faces What I need the three of you without checking to guess what he's getting on patreon Uh I am going to say 1200 1200 and skipper I guess I go I'll say 1500 3,345 Jesus fucking christ why am I in the fucking world is he getting that much money? What the fuck? I don't get people. I don't get people Sociology is a scam. The only reason you would ask is because it was really low or really high. So I uh, I really flipped the God Off by a factor of 10. I never would have guessed it was 3,350 that that's not uh What the hell are they paying for? Do you think this is a collection of people who've like got dead accounts and just haven't corrected it? That feels like an odd thing to have a dead account for something that costs you a lot of money Like if it's one one or two dollar patron and it just ends up in your And you just maybe you have a couple people you're a patron. Oh, and you forgot your patreon I don't know how else to explain this. What the hell? If you put Like I'm I'm not getting much on patreon now because I've been as active on my channel, but In terms of like putting investing back into the channel I have many months worth of patreon have been invested back into the channel these last couple months for me With him. He's making 3k a month And his videos look like shit And he he only uses like artwork artwork and clips and stuff like that for his channel, so I'm like if you just spent half of a month's patreon revenue on just art And thumbnail designs for your channel you would look it would look so good And he just clearly hasn't done it or he got scammed I don't know that there's any interest in evolving the format that that's kind of not him. I get it. It's just that's gotta be it There just can't be Well, it almost seems like because he would have done it. Yeah If it was he would have done it If it was like a factor of a lot of things like just oh the format works. It's like works Yeah, like and I can just and then just keep doing it and maybe not even like treating it as like that valuable as work You know like it's not that important. It's not that meaningful It's like well these are movie reviews, right? I'm just talking about movies. I gotta get these out. I gotta get each You know one a week Though then you can make this and not a week I don't know It's interesting though because like you have to question like how much is incompetence and then how much is laziness Because like He's attempting with these little still frames though and like stuff, but it just looks so ugly Sorry, man. It's just hideous. I don't want to say Yeah, there's a there's a tempt was just so odd Buster designed for hey, it's cold outside yet got somewhere else to be theater going It's genuinely hard not to be moved and feel like you've really watched this assembly of characters arrived somewhere Which is no small feat given that half of them are regulars from a series that hasn't exactly bothered to flesh anyone out Much to this point to begin with and half of them are guests. Do you don't want the mcu there? Yeah, I think so Oh, maybe he's talking about like Ned and mj and happy I guess which I mean, it's really happy with like howry and amazing spot-a-man suit. I guess so. I don't know Because it's done so quickly that it's like hard to grasp the points too much Stars from other movies counting on universal receiving on sale To buy osmosis to do most of the initial heavy lifting in what is essentially a lesser lot See that see like the cut in between the sentences like that wasn't natural He cut out the space in between the sentences and you can tell Because there's like the abrupt start of a sentence. It's not like a sound was naturally coming out of a mouth He cut it. He chops all the gaps from the audio and then just shoves them all up. I don't think he looks at the timing at all Yeah, he like he's looking at the he's looking at the physical waves on the The program whenever he uses and he cuts using that even though It's not accurate really Especially at the beginning and end of sentences when it tapers off on both sides And it's not really accurate to the little line going up and down for the volume And so like bits just get cut off at the ends He's talking about the tazen films which he hated. There's only one character From well, I guess you you could argue lizard and taz Electro, but I don't I don't get the vibe. He's talking about them Um when he said that Rami films, right? I thought you saw one of the mcu ones when he said the the limited He's saying that those ones have limited by comparison to you know, the other films presumably yeah Rami By osmosis to do most of the initial heavy lifting in what is essentially a lesser live action cover of into the spider Verse speaking of which the I mean the films are completely different. So I don't know. Yeah, they are completely different Is it just because it has multiverse in it? And that's it's the same it just has multiverse in it. So it's basically It's basically in game Yeah, the plot is in fact significantly more complicated than what's being relayed by the trailers But for the sake of avoiding spoilers most of the starting setup goes as advertised with his secret identity now known in A cues of murder so that the whole people knowing spider-man see like he couldn't let murder breathe No, he had to cut off murder. It was it was desperate that he Took the time and the effort misplaced effort is a big Yeah, you guys know I you guys know the the phantom toll booth you guys aware of that I was familiar, but no um, the phantom toll booth is um By norton jester. It's an old I think it's like 50s or 60s something like that but there is There's a character in it and I forget what his name was but it's basically like a kid who Goes into a phantom toll booth and he goes to this land Where there's all these characters who teach him lessons about life and things of that nature and one of the characters that he meets is I forget its name but the idea is that This character gets you to waste your time with useless tasks And not devote your efforts to things that are meaningful and I feel like That is like the character who's who struck movie bob Movie bob He'll go through all the effort in the trouble because like because in the book the the this task giver guy He says all right I want you to go ahead and carve out a cave in this wall and I want you to use this needle Right Because it's just this useless menial task that will take you forever to do but is oddly engaging and I feel like Him when he goes back into his audio and he's clipping out all these little bitty pieces and taking out all the space between the sentences when he should be Like just practicing his manner of speech Getting better assets to look at things like that That's what comes to mind I suppose. I mean he's you're right. He's chopping out He's chopping in ways that um would take similar efforts, but are just fucking worse Yeah, yeah Spider-man's identity can still be a problem in the marvel cinematic universe where secret identities are otherwise not really a big deal for Anyone else peter parker realizes that his life as spider-man is making things miserable for his loved ones And without giving it away I do appreciate the extremely of the moment acknowledgement of what the end of the world actually means for teenagers in 2021 versus the classic version of the like the faces when I see a face on the screen and its expression It doesn't match tonally or like topically To what is being said It's just a face like a random face You might as well mix them up and just put a face out there in his videos and it's indistinguishable from An attempt at order if that's what he's doing there's the It's it doesn't match. Why bother is it just so that an image changes? I think they're supposed to evoke Uh, what they tell you what he feels is supposed to be evoked by whatever he's saying Like uh that face we just saw like this is his I am happy face. I guess That's his like I am consumed Yeah What the world actually means for teenagers in 2021 versus the classic version of these stories where getting attacked by villains Would be the first problem instead of what the real inciting incident turns out to be for the kids here And attempts to get his wizard friend doctor straying to cast a spell that will make the world forget that the unmasking ever happened But when peter tries to tamper with the details to preserve memories of certain friends and family something goes wrong And be broken magic instead pulls enemies of alternate incarnations of you run out of breath And then he just kept going even though it created this horrible gap in the sense Surely in your head it should just be If I run out of breath this sentence is too long and I should be cut down No Or maybe I am horrifically overweight and I am so out of shape that I am just Running out of steam while I'm talking talking. I'm so fat now that just talking you have to take breaths Like I understand it's just it's definitely the sentences. He fucking writes retarded sentences that go on forever Of course, he runs out of breath eventually Yes, he's a chungus He's a big chungus fatty boy And we love him Broken magic instead pulls enemies of alternate incarnations of spider-man from elsewhere in the marvel multiverse Specifically green goblin dr. Octopus and sandman from the early 2000 sam ramy movies and electro in the lizard from the aborted 2010 amazing spider-man duology initially tasked with track That duology sounds like it was tacked on at the end Um, maybe like yeah, let let me uh bring it back just a little bit Listen listen for that and see if that is somehow like stitched onto the end of that sentence And ramy movies and electro in the lizard from the aborted 2010 amazing spider-man duology initially tasked See he totally added it that in like he couldn't even finish that sentence. He had to he had to stitch Duology to the end of whatever he was doing because he couldn't manage to do and instead of just saying the sentence over again He's like no, I'll just I'll just use surgery And I'll just attach duology to the end of that sentence. It'll be fine. No one will no one will notice Is your page click on dollars at work? Yeah Dimensionally displaced bad guys Peter himself then gets cold feet when he learns most of them remove not only from different older movies But different time periods So hope you like jokes about technological progress are eventually going to be killed by their universe's spider-man He becomes reluctant to send them back putting him in direct conflict with the sorcerer supreme and setting up a surprising second Half of the film that's one part a lot of this video is summarizing the This off the film. Yeah Yeah, I guess so I mean, I don't know what else Watched his spoiler video, but he doesn't have one. He just has a spoiler free one. I was like, okay Sincere superhumanly efficient payoff machine delivering all the weight character development heart growth impact tactile human scale raw action Actile human scale raw action tactile Yeah, we've come across tactile with with video makers before it's uh, if you remember actually It was used um when jack saint was doing The video on me and we were like the fuck does tactile mean in reference to a video And then he was on twitter being like you guys are fucking idiots If you don't know what tactile means, but i'm just sitting here like we know what it means That's why we're confused exactly. That's the problem is the use of it's like just because you use like a word that's abstractly not really Usually sits in that sentence and it evokes a particular thing. It's like that's not very clear Everyone can have a different idea of what the fuck that means Yeah, if you told me that a video was tactile that I watch Like I I don't I don't even know what you mean by that Well, if I said this what we're seeing right now is loud Um, you can have an idea of what I mean But at the same time I might be like, well, do you want to maybe go further on that? It's like, yeah, you know maybe because if I describe someone as tactile I just feel like okay. Do you mind explaining that because that's kind of useless I feel it Lack of a better words spider-man nests that not only this france of the Byzantine tomb, yes Guys has somewhat lacked for two prior films and maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling But also one part wait what? I don't I don't know Only this franchise has somewhat lacked for two prior films And maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling but also one is he I don't know what point he's trying to make being critical of Other films lacking in aspects of what this one has Because he was saying Heart growth impact tactile human scale raw action and for lack of a better word Spider-man nests that not only this franchise has somewhat lacked for two prior films And maybe a few other films as well. Well, that would be telling but Other films other spider-man films or just other films Infinity wars he's talking about the tazen movies or he's talking about the reimey movies I don't know It's open for interpretation, which it shouldn't be because I need well because he said that would be telling But the thing is we know he thinks the tazen movies are bad I'm pretty sure his videos on it same for reimey being good. He has videos on that. So I don't know what He's talking about the war And the the new one I'm very confused. Um, I yeah, I don't know what he's referring to which means I can't really Just pull anything out of what he's trying to say Part way to meta occasionally off-putting franchise management exercise. Did you say occasionally? I think so So I've been so one part way to meta occasionally off-putting franchise management exercise in which things happen because they must Characters make abrupt personality shifts to accommodate those musts as marvel disney and sony very loudly get their ducks in a row for whatever comes next Well, also maybe working out in a lab I know I have no examples to work with here. It's just it's all this ethereal Referencing other things and I don't I don't know what to pull from this because that's his way of staying spoiler free I guess but you can reference other movies You know and stay spoiler free yeah Abbott philosophical metaphor making a case for zoomer presentism That's maybe also an extremely cynical framing for disney owning everything ever as a zoomer presentism. What the fuck is that? Let me look at presentism. I assume it means a focus on the present presentism Uncritical adherence to present-day attitudes, especially the tendency to interpret past events in terms of modern values and concepts So saying that that's what zoomers are that they interpret the past through a modern lens And that's like a zoomer thing and that has something to do with disney owning everything Isn'tism I just I ain't heard that one like this just feels a bit like Reaching, you know almost to like make some broad points about society You know Well, yeah, let's see it in context making a case for zoomer presentism That's maybe also an extremely cynical framing for disney owning everything ever as a moral principle in itself But that's another show the white. Well. How was a moral principle Maybe he's talking about the fact that there are a lot of people who are just like gleeful at the notion of disney Like the film really happy Yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know. I have no idea what he means But disney is struggling to keep a claw on spider-man because sony can just pull them away whenever they want Especially with the contract up And then it's like so that doesn't really match your thing there Spider-man is if that's owned by sony while disney has the marvel universe Funnily enough, you wouldn't think it that actually balances out because of how popular spider-man is right now And always has been that's why there was that quote when they said nobody cared about the other marvel characters It's like well, they were kind of wrong The fact of it is the constant with the marvel films is that they live and die on the characters that are often bigger than the Individual films they appear in and to the degree that I don't agree I think a lot of people that's the opposite actually Yeah, the opposite of anything ant-man lives off of the fact that he's part of the mcu Yeah captain marvel is probably the primo example of this You slap anything between infinity war and in game and that thing's making a billion dollars We might be past that era now um Yeah, maybe Because like, you know, if they say like new avengers is coming out I I do worry for the mcu like depending on who the fuck's headlining that like I wonder how many people is gonna draw Because you lost your iron man in your cap And spider-man, I'm guessing he won't be in the next avengers I assume he won't be why not. Yeah Hope not. I hope I hope not sir This time tom holland has both the best material in a solo film Anyway, he's been given to work with in the role and isn't being asked to shoulder the burden entirely on his own With zandaya jig of batalon and mercer today all getting fairly beefy parts this time along See he did that cut in the a sentence and he clearly Went back for whatever reason that sentence was unacceptable It did not meet the high movie bob quality standards and it needed to be changed Alongside guest stars are actually a significantly bigger part of this than the heavily advertised dr. Strange businesses Though it is fun watching team marvel pair up that side of their toolbox with teenage characters and throw together Basically, they're much more sarcastic version of a harry potter movie at least until they have to pull strange off the board See you did it again. Yeah, he does it like how is this not a spoiler by the way the dr. Strange isn't in it that much Well, yeah, because that that's weird halfway through the film at that point right where he gets yanked at Yeah Okay, I guess he's willing to spoil some stuff I guess it's a mild spoiler to say that he's not in it that much Well, what if you come into the movie thinking dr. Strange is going to be in it huge You know, he's on the poster right look at him. Look at how big he is Yeah, we guessed you would get booted out, but I don't think you'd have to say that is a spoiler of some sort, right? I guess it has to me. It wasn't in the trailers that he would be booted out Yeah, I think if you were only going from the trailers you could imagine he was in the whole film Well, remember even in the trailer you've got him like, oh, they're all coming through or no one it's framed Yes, she's like the last part Yeah, it's framed us him being there in the fight because it's night time when in reality it's daytime in that scene Most of act 2 and 3 so there can like be an act 2 and 3 as I think is sometimes the case with the marvel movies It probably sounds like this is all in a hand I love it Oh, well, I was going with the whole heat once again Cutting his sentences in half and you can clearly tell that sentences are just stitched and cut up and put All together It's easier, right? Like if you if you flub the latter portion of a sentence And you're like, well, I just need to read the end again And you have no concern for how it flows. Fuck it I still think it'd be easier to just say it again No Not if you don't care I guess yeah, I guess if you don't yeah, I I don't know. That's just bizarre Until there are use of one's effort in attention to detail Mm-hmm Strange off the board for most of act 2 and 3 so there can like be an act 2 and 3 As I think is sometimes the case with the marvel movies It probably sounds like this is more of a negative review than it actually is though You know partly since a lot more the interesting things they fall under spoiler territory But also because at this point we're either at or about to hit 30 of these goddamn things And if you count the tv show it's amazing all you have to do is play trailer footage You know or just some little clips And put an overlay over it. That's nice and easy Every once in a while, maybe throw in a different face No problem at all takes a couple seconds to do that and seven minute script You can probably crank one of those out and when he's recording that in like eight minutes because of yeah It literally gives a shit about the quality of it You can make a video like this and easily under an hour Yeah Whole thing start to finish we're talking like You oh you need to make a video you have an hour and you can crank this out and it's done And then you just have to Hit upload it to youtube and boom. It's done 3k a month Nice and easy He shows basically none of them are below a b plus so the stuff that's good here is just kind of oh Yeah, wow the marvel did he just say none of them are white hold on we need to hear that again I had to hit 30 of these goddamn things and if you count the tv shows basically none of them are ever below a b plus so the stuff that's good here is just kind of Wow, none of them are below a b Didn't he say that he thinks like So he thinks spider-man far from home is a b plus even though he said it was is b plus he must be missing in his world He must be talking about the cd first, right? He said in even including or not. Oh, right He said even including the cv shows right or so everything either way the mcu is not below a b plus like damn Well, that's it's like that's like the The consensus a lot of the time right where people like even when they're like not that good They're really bad. Whereas I think it is the heart take that it's like actually a good portion of these movies aren't that good Yeah Um, I think there is a general consensus that marvel is pretty consistent, which yeah, but that should be a normie take from just some guy Some normal person on the street Yeah, not someone who's a movie reviewer. Yeah Oh, yeah. Wow the new marvel movie is a totally rock solid front-of-back action blockbuster The humor lands the fight seems a terrific basically the only studio that still knows how to do plot structure in a big movie anymore There's great. What what what are you talking about? What are you? Actually, what are you talking? They don't know how to do that? Secondly? What like the other films of the fucking mission impossible movies Did did I I feel like almost everyone's doing better than them At this point, yeah Dude dc's like do a better Like the plot structures are horrible often. They've been made fun of semi regularly for third acts that are just insane Like there's just like black widow for examples. I got the fuck was that I think the problem is that I think that the general Consensus that'll that has been developed is the main thing with marvel movies is they're like schlock They're like predictable. They're flat in terms of cinematography. Like they're very much An assembly line film, but they're okay Whereas I think the actual take is no all that first parts true, but also it's like man We we have a lot of bad movies here. Oh, yeah Looking effects work and blowing twists and act two and three etc etc. The score is good So in the end, especially in a non-spoiler review, it's what doesn't work that are the surprises that are at least worth talking about Otherwise. Yeah, like I said pretty damn good. Definitely worth seeing and I would say yes, ultimately I don't when he says that a movie's good. I don't know what that means I didn't even get the impression that he thought it was good from a lot of stuff. He said but I guess he does Yeah, I guess Worth what it took to get here even if it seems like our send-off is okay Maybe this time this character will progress meaningfully beyond the specific point. Guess we'll find out But until then yeah, call it a seven but a strong You fucker The thing that everyone does don't bounce your goddamn bells properly Seven definitely check it out. I got a good time with it Even when he's talking it's like his mic is weakening It's a crashy Can you please appreciate the comic time against that? It seems like a parody video where it just comes in with this stupid music again Well, then yeah, call it a seven but a strong seven definitely check it out. I got a good time with it Just got Years on I guess so I love the idea that he was born in like the 60s and he's like struggling to make this shit work anymore He's a nearly 40 stone I don't know what stone is rags. You're gonna convert that to real weights Well, I know it's 14 pounds. I don't know what that is and kiwi So again 14 pounds 14 pounds on that much Hold on kilogram to stone. Fuck me. Um, all right. In fact, I think you'd be dead if you rated 14 pounds Okay, so No, nice. You you were like you because you said bob chipman 82. What is he almost 40 and I was like 40 stone Which means yes, so Uh, apparently a stone is 6.35029 kilograms But it was worth it all things considered Oh, there wasn't a lot to say with that one. A lot of it was just confusion He said an odd thing here and there some wrong things about his ability to assess quality, which is Pretty bad considering his line of work. Um, a lot of it was just plot synopsis and ambiguous explanations of things without explaining things and Yeah, it wasn't like he was really trying to say anything. It was very fairly empty Uh, bob does like parodies, right of other people sometimes, but like his parody of a person That's what I was about to say I don't know if he's ever done like a full parody Because his format is so easy to parody You just need to have like shit rock music as the intro on some port like really bad typography and then just With like you get your old xbox 360 microphone and then record And just speed ramp it up and and just write sentences that are just complete word salad Don't say anything seven and then seven out of ten loud ding Like then you've made a movie of off video And yeah, I guess the tutorial boss is dead for this e-fap because that was That was more so just about the production. You didn't really say anything that was Yeah By a microphone, they're not expensive you make 3k. I mean, I don't I don't know what the food budget is over there But surely you could put a put some pennies aside to get a a microphone maybe In your video where you talked for a living I just can't believe with that level of patreon that he's not able to fund You know Better everything for his channel He should have at least a couple of employees right with that Without anyone really work for him. I don't think so Well, look at this video like if I don't I guess if you are the kind of person and you only want a certain level of Like you can keep this style and have it look good Yeah, yeah Um, so even if he was like it's all gonna be me. It's just a one-man production. I'm I'm maybe he's just not good It would clearly he's not good at video editing So I want to keep it simple And I just want it to be nice and look nice, but it doesn't look nice Even this is blurry. Is that I is that the way in the real video the text at the end? Let me Let me go to the end And see Let me go to You might render it all out in 720. I don't know Honestly, because I'm I'm looking at this in 1080p 60. That's what he renders his ass and it's blurry It's text and it's blurry Like this is here. I'll just screenshot it and it's just Like it's legitimately Like blurry text Yeah And it should look better here because I've shrunk. It's been shrunk down for discord, but how do you have text blurry? It's text. It's like the actor based the rock and music is pulling the bit, right? It's vibrating. It's almost lost. Who's more inapt movie bobble and nostalgia critic. It's like nostalgia critic upgraded his technology Nostalgia critic is absolutely more competent than movie ball based on this. Like he does like green screens And there's a real pink ball by the green door Sibler and like his movie not really Nostalgia critics his skits are they practice with them. They clearly rehearse them The execution of the skits are not the problem. It's that they're not funny and they're cringe That's actually probably a good point If they had a better writer those skits might be completely tolerable tolerable because the rlm skits that are like the best ones oftentimes they just as like You know like stupid, but um, they'll be they'll have comedic timing. They'll have uh sub tax like Nostalgia critic ones are just well, we've seen there. It's not written. Well, yeah But the people that he has employed They're all they've all said things and delivered lines in ways that can totally be funny It's just what they say isn't funny I think we've if we said that this author is told a joke. We've liked at some point. Does that happen? I'm sure he has I'm certain he has I legitimately am I'm confident that he has said a legitimately funny joke Probably yeah, probably I can't remember what it is or where it was But I am confident that he has Has told funny jokes that have made us laugh They're like there are he has the capacity here's the thing. I think that Nostalgia critic definitely has the capacity to be very clever, but he can't channel that cleverness into a way that's funny We'll see him next Halloween I mean, he's he's always there. We could visit him whenever we want true Maybe maybe he'll release something controversial like, um, he'll give The next avengers a one out of ten Like I'm like Recall rags saying, okay, that was a good Nostalgia Critic joke Yeah, he can make good jokes like even when we were I actually rewatched it the other day our league of extraordinary gentleman EFAP He if you just looked at a lot of those script wise just by the words alone Some of the things he says are funny. He just says them in a very unfunny way with no Timing or I guess awareness of how to deliver them But some of the lines and concept are funny It's just that they go through a joke. There's some joke killing process like yeah, yeah, like like a tyson factory You know It's just it has to the joke has to die in the process of it getting into a final video with him And to take something like van Helsing or the league of extraordinary gentlemen and make it so lame Like damn they give you so much to work with Yeah, you know the the different beasts they are different beasts though Like whose scripts you want to listen to more and it's like bob is aware of more longer words than uh Nostalgia Critic is but Man or maybe or maybe Nostalgia Critic legitimately knows not to use them Because Nostalgia Critic's video I like covering him because there's all you always want to pay attention because he can say something Interesting even if it's bad Like he he speaks in a way that you can clearly understand you never have to try and decipher the things that he's saying for the most part You're not sitting there with this confused look on your face What's the point I've just got here by the way Huh on the screen just got No idea Just got here. Oh just got here. Oh Oh, is maybe this music is his and it's called just got here and it was Yeah, he made this music That would be hilarious if he did because it's just the kind of music I expect him to make but I don't know It's just a super generic light rock riff in the back That doesn't match him or his videos whatsoever Um So anyway, yeah The next boss will be one that production wise should probably be Worlds away from movie bob, but the script will have much more Intention I would imagine Yeah, ladies and gentlemen as has been voted by you in chat. The next will be Itop films And as you know the history of him is that Homecoming was not a spider-man film far from home made him sick so What will this one do let us find out? Yeah, so two years ago spider-man far from home broke ready. Yeah, it's glad we had that Sick heartbroken now. I'm about to go see no way home, but I have to make a yeah I almost implied we wouldn't be critical of his editing, but I always am Like we are Super he found a light Found a light to get under he brought the nice camera outside someone held it for him Bathed in light It's symbolic Dark city street Stop first Josh you say for no way home. Johnny you say for no way home. Yeah. Yeah You got a restaurant to film? Here we go. Well going to see a spider-man movie is a huge occasion So they're probably doing lots of things that day to set it up. It's like this is a main event coming I guess Hey, how you doing as much as I'd like to think my passion my style my personality is what led me to do This isn't a style. This is just shit on a screen. This is so much stuff I'll stare at this brick wall and then I'll touch it and then we're doing this camera will be pink Pretending to climb the wall right doing the spider-man crawl up. Oh sick camera tricks. Yeah. Oh Like uh and he can't he can't settle down. He has everything's changing all the time Hey, how you doing as much as I'd like to think my passion my style My personality is what led me to have the platform that I'm so lucky to be standing on I'd be lying if I didn't admit that my career on here my success my infamy whatever the f*** you want to call it You're a hack is forever intertwined in the tangled web John Watts and Kevin Feige have woven for the wall crawler true He said his main first viral video was talking about how much spider-man isn't spider-man So, um, I think he's had some luck with batman as well But um, that means he has to talk about no way home and every other one to come out Even though I think far from home. He said something along the lines of like he said he wouldn't yeah But then he did because of course he did of course he did After far from home after the constant consistent lack of hefty emotional weight the avoided. All right Well, let us begin It's the same point everyone always f***ing mates it's like because obviously we've we've covered his stuff before but like No emotional weight no consequence. No real actual legitimate Things happening when one of the things we praise homecoming for is the fact that we can finally not have to deal with catastrophic stakes we can deal with smaller scale space and time and The universe and all that um Very very like like definitively just no there's just no emotional stakes. All right. If you say so I don't know. I've always appreciated that homecoming is the first f***ing movie in the mcu that calmed down Um, because they always they only seem to ramp up Dense of empathy and sincerity the focus on being oh wow no sense of empathy or sincerity How come like when somebody makes a movie like why does he presume that john watz has no level of sincerity Like I don't know is making why have we just decided to throw him under the bus? Sounds personal. I think it is personal when it comes to high top. He's uh, he took this personal Making these movies was very personally a detact to him Being a light-hearted teen comedy with the maturity and depth of an episode of drake and josh I don't know how yeah, if you cut out the scenes where they're not doing jokes And you can make this point. Yeah The maturity and depth of drake and josh were an episode of it and it's like, all right So i'm guessing you're saying you can't draw anything meaningful out of these the first two Presumably because which feels like but again, it's easy to say that when you don't show the clips from like the big story moments Like in homecoming just way isn't a shit because of dealing Yeah, or at the end of this film when he's like doesn't even know if happy's happening Then they have the scene on the plane where he's talking about how sad he is like, I don't Yeah, if you show these clips then you can make this point. Well, yeah, I know that Um, I guess a lot of spider-man fans hate the fact that this is the thing But him mourning tony like as his mentor is like that's meaningful, but I guess we hate her It is because you don't like the meta because it's in the mcu, but that's not I don't know. It's it's a film in the mcu. It's gonna be related to other films in the series But I guess we got a shit on them as much as we can before we set up how No way home because this video is called spider-man no way home kind of fixed mcu spider-man So we've got to set it so that all the things that he praises no way home for They were not present in homecoming and far from home, even though they definitely were I was heartbroken unable to be excited for anything more fucking now Jesus, it's like grow the fuck up Heartbroken because spider-man didn't have enough serious stakes and consequences as far as he was concerned Geez Listen, it's it's weird to me because like they they were But was going I think it's they're more understandable Like they're just more like the stakes that he goes through I could I get that I I couldn't relate to that in a way friendships and you know school and things of that nature I just can't relate to Oh the planets could explode. Oh no aliens are gonna conquer the blah blah and the it is weird complaints to make in the mcu that this story was too like Low stakes almost well, you almost want to have that conversation with high top, right? Well, you're like so the world exploding we admit that's high stakes low stakes are And he's probably gonna be like well, obviously categorically it's just when there's not much to lose You'd be like and so it's bad to do low stakes, right? Just categorically And you know that he'd be like No, it's he can't say that right like you can't you can't have any respect Well, I feel like it's the fundamental thing You can't really have the perspective of liking a lot of things that are really great If you take the stand that low stakes is bad because it means you're basically just regarding like all serious drama Like on television or in films stories that are just about like people in the real world Doing give you an example Yeah, citizen kane Very one of those aches and citizens kane. It's all about trying to find out what a word means Yeah, yeah, if he doesn't find out then 12 angry men the stakes are one man's life one The stakes of um, I mean the stakes are breaking bad. It's like well breaking bad. It's like a big There's like definitely affects a lot of people But it's ultimately the story of like one guy and like his family and the people who are connected to him That's it Yeah, because you can't have low stakes as a as a thing for bad If you like a lot of things that are just good content like there's no world where that makes sense It seems at this point we've been taken for granted that his life is at risk in everything that he's doing with all this stuff Like we don't even care about that anymore. That's not really stakes Marriage story is low stakes. Yeah, definitely incredibly low stakes. It's just sorting out the divorce so many Well, just so many of this the films that you would consider to be like the best films ever So many of them are just like low stakes Yeah, it's a relationship or it's someone relationship one person's life Maybe like something that affects like one town or one city You know, not like the whole world homecoming's big finale is vulture might steal a lot of iron man stuff I say a lot. It's probably not a lot You know what? Because high top also likes dead evil. Dead evil is incredibly low stakes compared to everything in the mcu It's about like one neighborhood of new york Well, and so this is the thing I could picture someone being like he's not saying it's low stakes and that's bad He's saying there's just nothing at risk And there's to be like that's just like sounds like a roundabout way of saying the same thing Yeah, what is that? Personal life like in homecoming the stakes were specifically to do with like him and the people that he knew That was what vulture said We don't have to I mean like literally no films reservoir dogs Just citizen came like being the the thing that is used as the metaphorical highest of its kind when that has extremely low stakes Then maybe maybe we've jumped the gun. Maybe that's not what he means. Well, there's basically no stakes in citizen kane It's so low. There's basically no stakes I think that he would find ways to try and avoid that being the conversation because york talks about consequences So he'd be like, well, we know nothing was at stake because of the fact that despite there being failures and sacrifices There's nothing permanent that happens, but there is in no way home. They just wasn't in far from home and homecoming Except in homecoming he the decision he makes permanently cuts off the relationship that he wanted to develop with liars That's done. Yeah, and and I think someone could be like that's just one girl and it's like, no, you can't you can't do that And also As far as he was aware at the time he had lost the connection to stark that was done And then he still committed to the course of action to try and save the day very meaningful not for any reward Well, that's that's what it's an arc like because he had one Yeah, and then comes the ultimate test of like you've you are now You can now accept the thing you've wanted since the beginning. It's the classic fucking advice for writing character once character needs He didn't he wanted to be an avenger. What he needed to be was his own fucking hero And then of course, you know, you could be like, well, this wasn't in his own movies, but he lost Important mentor to him. That's a that's that's like a point that from now on you are not in the situation that you were before You were spider-man and you had stark there as a mentor now. He's not here anymore That's a tote. It it's fundamentally different for him Yeah, and it does that not count as a change like an important change And that's what the like the whole movie was about and he's being torn down From the moment he enters the mcu like across his entire arc. He's just been torn down every time he's getting He's I mean when we talk about like mcu characters who've had to like really suffer to try and like figure out Who they are and and like how to be a hero. God damn It was constant test Even the the fnt crew agreed that he is the spider-man on film that has suffered the most now It categorically after no way easily. Yeah, he gave at least at least is that Well, it only took like three minutes We got there This rendition of a character that I have loved since I first could love well You know you love particular versions of him I now so like We all of us here. We really like movies and games and stories and things like that This still feels really not me You know, I loved before like it'd be like if I said, you know crash bandicoot I loved him as soon as I could love. It's like It really is one of those like yeah Dude, if you escape your video to proof of daredevil, you hope they were saying I have loved daredevil since I had the Capacity to level like freaking you might want to cut that. It's a little It's a lie It's not true like an adult. It's almost like post-hoc Like change because when you're a kid, you just like things that you think are cool Like I don't know. I don't know that's any more meaningful than oh, man. That's awesome. Wow. That's great That's super. Look at Simba. He's gonna go back and take back pride rock. Yay Like I don't I don't know that it's ever like as dramatic like Whatever his appreciation for spider-man has not been the same now as it's always been It's back at one point. It was cool guy in suit is jumping around beating people up Exactly and and now it's become more meaningful because you're an adult and you look back on that time fondly And also just because it's an adult you have a more developed understanding of why you like things I don't know. I guess it's it's yeah The rap thing the dude pride rock thing from Dude pride rock that's amazing. If anyone hasn't seen it. I'm almost tempted to play it, but just Why am I just looking at people reacting like the trailer? I think for the new lying king and this is this guy Yeah, it's like promotional material. You see his pride rock in the trailer. He's like, dude pride rock Oh I love pride rock is my favorite rock. Yeah, man. It's pretty good rock To put it simply peter parker in the mcu outside of civil war has never felt like peter parker to me That's meaning. Yeah, but that this like I just there's just no value in your opinions. I just I'm interested in exploring them. I just never been I've never been convinced by these arguments I know that you know that we all know it I should just shut the f*** up and did I think for a second that spider-man? No way home would change that would fix that was I hopeful a little was I assured? No, was I wrong? Kinda, but first I'd like to thank the special sponsor. Oh Okay There's a lot of raycon for him, or is it gonna be some VPN service Environmental thing I think is uh, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go with I'm Dollar Shave club. I'll go with Um The raycon he's done rake on a million times. So I might be right. Okay. All right. Um, I'm gonna go with a vpn Um, express vpn. Let's go that. All right. Were you skipper? Is it cheating if I already know what it is? Oh, well, yeah Yes I don't view you know, right outside. I've never heard of ran. I don't think I've never heard of ran I know that they are birds That's like a how we're adding ran into the known ads. Let's see what Kylo Ren Oh The climate report that recently came out but the phrase code read for humanity threw me into an existential crisis Okay, so Wow, so so the big implication here is why did you do it if like you really cared? Why would you do it in an ad? Well, you see free? They offered money And Yeah, I care so much that when I was paid to show my concern I care so much that I had to be paid To talk about it. You got you don't know guys. I really care about this particular I really do it said code read for the planet and I panicked with existential dread. Oh my goodness And I was I was like man. Is there any way it's literally have you ever driven past a fire and thought how does this benefit me? Have you ever driven This is an ad for local wisconsin irrigation services now. I have been made aware The irrigation services in wisconsin are lacking and I I wish to ameliorate that situation I've been I've been contacted by the crop dusters union of Nebraska and they boy. Do they have some complaints? I look on the website said code read and I was like, holy shit This ad has been sponsored By saying the whales now the other day I found out that whale populations are decreasing and that terrified me That was really scary. Sorry whales are an important part of my life Yeah, I love whales ever since I could love Ever since I could love I love the whales Whales, no, he'd say like whales taught him how to love Whale He was no, no, he's got to go further. He was raised by whales Keep going. I want to do a good dealt thing. All right. Um, you know the uh, you know, what is um, what How are nebraskan crop? No, no, no, I got it now. How come the braskan crop dusters are like actors in movies? Uh, how how because they both rely on their props Oh my god. Oh, we fucking did it. 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I'll just say e-fab Okay, all right, okay, okay All right, so anyway The threat of climate change has been around longer than I have but it's something we don't see happening in We haven't been around for that long Yeah This is not dude, hasn't this been going on since like longer than every human who's ever been alive We think of destruction for decades now Oh, well, no, I just mean that like isn't it just like the industrial revolution Isn't that like when we started admitting so like everybody who's alive now It's a really weird way to categorize it Well, it's too easy to ignore but ren has an answer for that Ren is a website where you can calculate your carbon footprint then off. Oh, that sounds like fun. Sorry Yes, it sounds great. That sounds like a really great use of my time I'm pretty sure that I there was a curse gazax video where they talked about that like the carbon footprint was actually a thing that like BP came up with It's like a concept because it puts the onus on you when you have very little powers and individual to do anything That if you like stopped emitting for the rest of your life that it would just be like It would be like nothing like that. That's not that's not what it takes But let's see what the service is Anyway What is the service said it by funding objects that plant trees protect rainforest and start doing something about the climate crisis It's easy Sorry, I actually I'm like getting a little annoyed now because like this is an ad Yes Like I paid to do this and I feel like this company is just trying to monetize your Maybe maybe the company is like really good and it's doing really cool stuff. I guess it's more just yeah You're talking about like saving the world, but you got paid for this like you're so awkward when you think about it The ad The ad is putting the onus on all of us as individuals and how important and ethical this is and how it's the right thing to do and that To be fair He's he's you know, he's he's like I'm I'm doing the right thing. You should be too. It's like you're getting paid like How awkward does that feel? It does feel a little weird, you know Like if I if I end a video said all right guys, um, so I the sponsor for today's video is logitech, right? I've been using logitech products for a long time and they're great and they're awesome They have all kinds of different quality ranges and price ranges and da da da And I've been using them for ages and I really like it and they sponsor this video and I these you know Like there's this element of I'm doing this for moral reasons I'm doing this because it's a product that I like and I want to recommend to you and also I'm getting paid for it So there's like a like like understanding between me and the audience We're like, yeah, I get money you get good stuff and never throw it you that sort of thing This breaches that and goes into its own Sort of like it gets into it's a matter of I don't know how I feel about the idea of being paid to promote charity If it was odd Yeah, there's something something there well What would be like if I took an ad to sponsor like I don't know like a like salvation army or something if it was odd like I'm doing the ad of like, hey this You're you're being paid And then you're like talking about it from like a moral perspective of like Ah, now I can help the planet like as if there weren't any options available beforehand, you know Because yeah, someone said it's for a good cause and it's like yeah, but they only did it because they were paid That's what makes it so awkward money Because this is the thing is like how many people out there don't accept any sponsorships But will promote what they believe are important or good products be important. Well, yeah, like if somebody You know like if if somebody promotes something that they think is a good cause and they've never been paid to do it It's like doesn't that not feel like there's an element there of like man You've like gone out of your way to basically try and advance a cause that you believe in that's really cool And yeah You know because we recommend stuff randomly like uh if services work well or don't but um You never have to catch us there and we actually use this one. Well, this one's actually moral Don't tell me that in don't tell me in this video that they paid you money for that You're doing it because you had an existential crisis Yeah Why Um I'm supposed to be clear on this because of course like there are people who work for charities to get paid And like charities are going to pay money to like keep their services operational things like that I feel like there's got to be a distinction between that no one like I I think I think there's specifically like the way that it's being presented to me Is the thing that's rubbing me the wrong way not not like the principle of somebody making money from a charitable cause We've seen a lot of high top videos. I don't think I've ever heard him talk about climate before This is the first time You know, I call me cynical But I feel like he's only telling me about this because someone paid him to not because he cares about it That's ingenious Well, maybe every video has this in it, right? Yeah, he changed a new leaf from now. I'm just gonna I hope to hear updates on the planted trees high top and every video going forward That would be nice Yeah, I mean about damn time for us to take some damn responsibility and account. See how compelling he's trying to be What is that? I so fucking I'm just thinking of them giving you a sack of money with a dollar side on it I feel like I'm I'm feel like I'm having a finger wagged at me Like take some responsibility Or something like that. What what is he saying here? I think he's saying it's about damn time. We take responsibility prices It's easy Necessary and about damn time for us to take some damn responsibility and accountability for the planet We call home just by answering a few questions about your lifestyle You can find out your carbon footprint and figure out how you can reduce it. No human being can fully reduce their carbon Not like individuals have very little capacity. It's like It's it's really awkward like ah here you can do a quiz on like how you suck and it's like Basically, yeah People become accustomed to the lifestyle that they're presented with like it's really awkward because yeah Like if you live in a western country Your carbon footprint is very high compared to like the carbon footprint of somebody from like, uh, Nigeria or something but like I don't It feels really awkward to just like and then say ah, yeah seeing you suck, you know That's exactly where I was about to say it's like I'm being told by somebody who's been paid to do an ad You'll be paid to tell me I suck I wouldn't know I want to know if high top at the end of the sad is going to tell us what his carbon footprint is from rin dot com Because of course he went there and he found out his and he has an account there And he is taking responsibility Right, so I'm I'm curious if we will learn high tops carbon footprint and he will tell us And he's telling us what he's going to do to reduce his own I believe he engaged with it once he showed it for the ad And he's not gonna give a fuck about it for the rest of his life unless they pay him again But but but but he's telling us to take response a bit. What do you mean? But what? What that can't no that can't be right? What? No, do better rags No, no, how dare you? malign the honor of high top He we have to take responsibility just like he told us to it's about he said damn twice Mahler twice dubator Footprint is no, but you can offset what you have left after reducing once you sign up to make a monthly Contribution to offset your carbon footprint you receive monthly updates from the tree planting rainforest protection and great more fucking junk mail This is just what I fucking need Your tree is doing well. You're like, thank you. Would you like to subscribe to the hyatt is that you're like, no Oh, what a friend What if they do that thing where they send you a picture of a tree and they want you to sponsor the tree? 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I want jimmy to provide heat for the local creatures in the area I know that when jimmy burns and his ashes are sprinkled throughout the forest it enriches the soil And another tree can grow in jimmy's plate. It's all a cycle Eventually, this will give me weight So the the gist of this service is essentially that you have a monthly subscription that funds like charitable causes to like Climate change, right? That's like the service. I thought I thought I was like a tracking app like a tractor carbon footprint Just like show you how much You like produce or something let's let's uh Right, uh, so yeah, so apparently Calculate and offset your carbon footprint with a monthly subscription To figure out how much co2 you admit Offset it with a monthly subscription with a mix of climate projects and then every month you get updates on like what that's being funded for right So i'm gonna chat said who wins if I sponsor jimmy and someone else sponsors kevin the lumberjack Damn, you know like I sponsor kevin to take down as many trees as possible every day Companies are competing for sponsorships You have a company that's just a guy who says I cut down trees. I just cut them down One tree per patron. So let's get it going guys freeze All I wanted trees down trees But I need I need sponsors so that I could devote my life and time to You know cutting down trees trees. I hate those carbon six. I hate those oxygen providing pieces of shit I'm gonna cut them down. That's what I do And I just like the idea that he doesn't vary inefficiently with an axe like he doesn't have big industrial equipment He just goes into the amazon rainforest with an axe Chopping down every day just goes on to the next tree and chops it down You'll receive weekly updates on how well he's done cutting it down and then what he used the logs for All right, sweet Do you think high top would do a deforestation ad? Oh my god, though Oh, dude, you almost want to try that with some youtubers, right? You like fake that you're a service that's super unethical in your terms and services, but you Like you like we use child slavery and they're blood to grease the wheels of industry Oh, it's it's a great service A lot of our friends works as a lubricant far better than other industrial methods, plus it's all natural You know, you pay them and then you have them do the ad and then you're like, right so You know, that sounds like something someone would do just to test youtuber integrity Oh, well look raid fucking shadow legends I mean as if that wasn't the the the dry run for or testing integrity of youtubers I mean I'm talking like really like even worse, you know, like better help and candidate but like even worse than those Yeah, like see how evil you could make it like put it in the fine print about all the people you've killed In order to make this legal There's some shit. I don't know. It just it would be interesting to see what happens Yeah, like you're trying you're funding some terrorist organization And you uh, you just dress it up to them. Oh, they're the freedom fighters and they just said it's been done before They just want to show you off for their family and you know, I mean sure a few people might die along the way But you know, can you put a price on freedom? It's almost like it's been done for cyanide by accident by youtubers Wait, what on string cyanide? It's uh, it's a great little service cyanide Well, uh, they I've heard of something similar. They've done it with dihydrogen monoxide They'll go around on the street with like a clipboard and everything and they'll try to get people to raise awareness to stop The to just to raise awareness about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide And they say oh it kills people every year and it can it causes x amount of damage And you know flooding and things of that nature all the all this money that the infrastructure damage We need to do something about dihydrogen monoxide. So we're gonna, you know, write up this big campaign We're gonna call our senators and like, oh, yeah, absolutely We really do have to do something against this one, of course. I hydrogen monoxide is just water water Yeah, so yeah, it's it's all about how you sell it and dress it up This high top video is Great, actually this is fireman. We'll talk about spider man It is really giving me that big think this one is definitely This is the most interesting ad that we've watched in a long time What noom was pretty interesting No, yeah, I just I still get ads constantly when I boot up youtube. It's like, oh, I lost this many powers using new It's like go away But that was 150 we're at 167 Man That's a little crazy Other projects you support you get to see the trees you planted and what your money is being spent on It will take a lot to end the climate crisis But we don't want to be left with no home to find our way back to and you can start helping today by learning more Ren dot co I've partnered with ren to I thought that was cut off. 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Please please We have to save the planet. This is an existential crisis. You have to do your damn responsibility Because the the the gidelp service I've come with is from what you guys are saying is the um Irrigation service that defends you from asteroids. Um, that's right And I'm gonna say the first hundred subscribers get to I don't know remove 10 extra asteroids or something The first You can always make what if you what if you had the system be that there are tiered subscriptions and the tiers Will dictate how many asteroids will be prevented? So like the minimum one will only prevent 10 The next one up only prevents 20 So the idea would be that you need to pay more money. Otherwise you run out of asteroid defense And like you have to go for the rest of the month just hoping that one doesn't hit you And so the first people who sign up get extra asteroid protection They get 10 extra asteroids deflected each month. 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This is the real shit Yeah, this is the it's spider-man that actually gives him an existential crisis not the fate of the plan I think that's probably true The first hour the first half of spider-man no way Through me into the darkest parts of hell the darkest parts of hell Calm down when you're great provolat everything then the first hour was just emcee you schlocked them the second hour That was when all this stuff all three it watered my crop and healed my cancer It redeemed me it it sent me to heaven So that I could see the It stabbed the dagger of darkness into my soul It's never the artery of my love for spider-man and it's the blood went everywhere then Then toby maguire himself came to me and patched it up was like hey, how you doing? I'm spider-man and I'm here And everything's okay now His script has already given us so much to work with compared to movibob His ability was really high about movibob. Maybe we need to watch the right video, but uh, I talk to me ability is just top notch Yeah, he's fucking nuts Yeah, he's like sander cohen man. He's like I am an artist With no way out. It's typical mcu spider-man the style the memes the joke stuff that is simply in no way for me Except now we get to see villains from spider-man franchises that I love What the fuck Well, he's obviously just the rabies was but I just like well, no, actually I think he does I think he actually does like the taza movies. Um, he certainly likes them all in the mcu ones He ranked both asm films above no way home. Yeah Fuck me no way Yeah That's not true. That's impossible. That's impossible. I compelled you to tell me the truth. Yes Begone demon of lies Yeah, he uh It just it became so clear in that one moment. It's like I wasn't liking it that the rabie village showed up Yeah, okay No way home threw me into the darkest parts of hell with no way out It's typical mcu spider-man the style the memes the joke but here you are So simply in no way he would watch 10,000 hours if that was the only spider-man content coming out of the uh, like mainstream You would just oh, I found the I found the tweet. There is. Oh my god. Yeah, there's the ranking ah He thinks that To be fit before we look at this We are very unusual when it comes to ranking spider-man. Okay. We're on a little island So we should expect that it'll be strange dude. He thinks spider-man three is like the fourth best one That's fucking nice. Oh, it's rainy. So This guy's crazy And I mean I feel like the edgy controversial thing is that he's put spider-man one over into the spider-verse Yeah That's a that's a hot take. I think at this point for him though, right? Like I probably could have guessed this was his ranking This dude's fucking crazy. I honestly would have thought he'd consider putting spider-man three above into the spider-verse I could see him doing that that would be yeah, but then everybody would be mad So I think he realized that he had to just accept that not you know, like that would just piss everybody off It's like a more shot about chasm two being above no way home Yeah, because that's absurd You put it up a homecoming as well. It's like damn. Yeah Tasm is a shit. Yes Like how why is it people Why is it the people who talk about these things are the least qualified people to talk? I there are few people who are less qualified to talk about the quality of spider-man movies than high top Well, um You know, maybe Bryce, maybe you're just a high top hater We're getting there I'll give you said lol sue me as well Well now that I know I might now that I know you have money Now that you've got the the cash money from rin because you care about the planet I can sue you And get my 700 bucks or whatever they paid you 300 who knows For me except now we get to see villains from spider-man franchises that I love and seeing these actors reprise their roles Is goose bump inducing when ox shows up when you hear that elfman theme slowly creep in when the echo of the goblin laugh Hits those eardrums when the audience gasps Collectively getting a cold shiver sent down their spine. It's like nothing else until you if you're unfortunately Like me quickly realize that john watz and screenwriters eric somers and chris mckenna working with wilm defo's norman osborn And melino's auto octavius within the mcu's established tone is like trying to eat a gourmet meal in the stall of the kfc bathroom Still taste. Yeah. This is what I mean. How why does he feel so comfortable shitting on the creative vision of those guys? I don't get it. I don't really It is so awkward to me that like to take the stance of like because I bet you that's probably the reason why he likes Tasm right is because it's like ah see that was uh Webb's like creative vision and that he had a vision but like here He just can't see it like there's no possibility that there could be any Like as if it's not possible that all of those guys sat in a room and were really passionately trying to figure out What story they wanted to tell you I think for some reason we just don't care about their The possibility that they had a vision If it was came up to him personally and said this was my vision and it's exactly how I've always wanted it High top would tell him like it's not man. This isn't your vision You've been I don't just feel so awkward Absolutely, it's like dude's made like three films Like he's made the films you have it and how and how can he say that the like Because you because spider-man one in particular is really campy and goofy Yeah, but he loves that. Yeah, but so the MCU tone which is often Portrait as being too jokie I guess that's a different I think he would assume that it's it's uh formulaic in a way that Because I mean, I feel like there's like no getting around the fact that like the spider-man Rami films are like definitely got like a Rami There's a style to those films. Yeah Yeah, there's a style absolutely and whereas like Marvel movies tend to have more of a But I wonder if it's a situation where it's like is it just the fact that the films have similar like cinematography that's throwing you off Like is that actually what it is you saw that video That pointed out how they all use the same camera and like the color grading is really similar And that's like totally thrown off the idea that there is Because how do you how do you explain right off my style is having my shots match? Well, I mean is that Is there something necessarily wrong with trying to have some level of uh consistency in terms of um The way that the films look or do we want to or you know Conversely, do we want to emphasize that these are all made by like different people and they they have different like shot composition I I guess it's just I don't I don't know how he can so easily just shit On something that was the creative vision of somebody it has to be in some way at at least Um, but also maintain the personality of like creative vision guys and like creators doing their thing and making stuff That's cool and not shitting on it. Yeah, that's like that's me. That's my style You know if it was really awkward Not all styles don't like these vibrant and crazy and wild and I mean I'm just doing one further like Like vulture there is there is an idea there in terms of having vultures suit and like the way that it's been constructed And how he looks and like the way that he's scary is different from Because in the comics he's kind of like a bit goofy, right? Like vultures look kind of goofy um adapted very Having it be very industrial and like Cobbled together and like the way that and then and then it's just like the mysterious like sequence You know like the whole mysterious sequence is like really visually Yeah, but so is a lot of stuff in the ramy films Like a lot of the really cool shots in the ramy films were like 100 cgr Like the tracking shots when they're like falling down and fighting each other Those are really cool shots, but they're CGI. There's nothing wrong with that That's different Yeah For reasons that somebody definitely be elaborated on i'm sure by the way I think i saw someone in chat say that the ramy spider-man films aren't goofy I don't know if you've rewatched those films like lightly, but there is There is big goof and i'll like it. I really like those films They there is a good feel of it though They are down. Am I like is he flies around? It's you who's out gobby out of your mind out of your mind. Yeah Yeah Absolutely goofy people who say they aren't don't remember Working with willem de foe's norman osborne and melino's auto octavius within the mcu's established tone Is like trying to eat a gourmet meal in the stall of the kfc bathroom It still tastes great. It still hits the spot. Don't get me wrong. You still get those goose bumps Hey, you're distracted by the smell of leech. You get goose bumps when you eat? No, no, no you you misunderstood rags. You're saying a gourmet food out of a kfc bathroom store Oh, okay. Okay. I got you. I got you. I got you Which um, it's interesting because like until he elaborates further. I could just my response would just be like So you're saying the food's good Like if so, it's like, yeah the location. I'd be like, okay, but the food's good I need to be more specific. The food is the film not the location. The location is irrelevant Yeah, the location being the mcu, which I don't give a fuck. Whatever is the film good Yeah, like the suicide squad. I mean that that film's got a good film in a shitty universe Horrifically bad location It covers up the human experiment a processed chicken It's almost like taking these legends and shoving them into happy Logan's apartment Was never going to be the best way to serve and service these characters I don't know that this film was arguing. This is the best way to service the green goblin and dark arc I think they were focusing on someone else At the same time. I don't know that they handled it badly at all with both of them In fact dark arc, they didn't really well with dark arc But I was about to say like my brain was almost like well, why are you saying that as if green goblin was like No, green goblin was done really well too. So I I don't know It comes off as a lose lose though Because is he asking that it should have been more like fan service a but then he would have complained about it Well, I guess he labeled happy's apartment as this critique and I'm like hi top You're the guy who should be saying Stuff like the idea of green goblin dark arc being in happy's apartment. That doesn't sound like it would work But it could be great, right? It depends on execution That's the thing I don't know what he's gonna say I have no clue what his standards are for like any of this He could say one thing and another thing and I have I have no clue The standard will always be what's safe for the ramy films, but like everything else, you know, fuck him, right? If it was really weird Green goblin and dark arc got whole movies. Of course, they're gonna be more flashed out or more explored in those movies They're a part of yeah, no, I know five of the villains and three other heroes Some that I find really odd is that it feels like we've reached this strange point We're like people don't want spider-man to be like part of the marvel stuff And and and not specifically speaking to like emcee's quality right now But like the idea of spider-man being part of the marvel stuff is like annoying Even though spider-man is a marvel character and arguably like the marvel character. Yeah, it's weird if it was like we I'm pretty sure everybody was happy that spider-man was going to be integrated into the emcee There was nobody who's like nah, you know what I prefer him on his own like absolutely no connection Oh, well, I mean people absolutely really like this movie I guess it's the idea of like spider-man being in the emcee Like everybody was incredibly excited for like civil war because of spider-man becoming a part of the emcee People don't want him in now because the emcee is like not good anymore Wow, I mean we're pretty same on that. I don't like right fucking Imagine dealing with captain marvel and falcon right now I never want to see this character. I love ever again. That's At this point I want him to yeah Let's go away You know why he's okay is taking characters crafted conceived almost 20 years ago by a director at the height of his career A director whose style personality heart and soul is felt in every frame every blink every touch And throwing them into the marvel machine throwing them even in spider-man 3 spider-man 2 Is like you're just saying that but imagine taking this these these sony products The the rights the film that sony bought the rights to because they just wanted to make some money And throw it into this universe filled with all these passionate creators collaborating to you can just say these things It doesn't like mean anything though. Yeah to clarify. I feel like someone would be like hey You just did the room. I'm gonna misinterpret that the point for you making there is that you can frame it However, you want the the the tazen films were made for money alone and they were cancelled because they were making enough They just hung on to the ip Meanwhile, someone like john waltz a true creative an author brings in A lot writing with others on the talent and creates the What is the best tazen film out of the three iterations of andrew's performances? You like see clearly that the author is on what's not on web This is all There's nothing of substance here I'm sure you'll get there eventually Also No promises No promises The height of his career a director whose style personality heart and soul is felt in every frame every Blink every touch and throwing them into the marvel machine throwing them into the third mcu spider-man It's just because it's marvel. That's all it's just in the mcu Yeah, it's just because it's the mcu because it's in which is really funny because his complaints about the mcu We're going to be different from ours because we don't like the mcu that much either like at the moment Yeah, but we have like His is going to be strictly because it is like the most popular thing Like it's hard not to reach the point of is this just contrarianism But you don't like color grade doesn't pop the lighting isn't good enough the shots and the angles and the composition They're not good and what about the writing right? convince us of those No, uh, because I I always find those conversations end up I can just make a reverse arguments pretty easily And then they get stunted because they're like wait what the fuck what do I do with this? You know when they say like I corrected blah blah blah to make it all pop better and then a bunch of people on twitter are like this is better This is better when the one person goes I prefer it grounded gg. It's over Right exactly. Yeah, it's over. What do you do now? And it's like well, but I Superheroes are supposed to be grounded. They're not even real. You're like, oh my god What do you mean that's supposed to be it's a creative vision and then john watt says yeah, it was Yeah, my creative vision is that superheroes are grounded. So Fuck off Playing a pandemic should never work and for me half wait, do you think making a film during a pandemic should never work? It's gonna be major that there's a lot of films Should mean it should never work Yeah, I think that's what challenges on seven you have to deal with These words have weight my dude you spider-man tale film during a pandemic should never work and for me It should There are just things you have to take care of you have to do different things on set. Fuck. Yeah You know like if 12 angry men was done during a pandemic. I could believe that Yeah Well, what about a film that was made during the spanish Like You know those films exist. She's like matter. I don't work Time it did not work for me. The first half of no way home was everything. I feared reymie. Me. It's so pretentious Yeah I'm just don't you dare. I'll do something to my side. This is my self line. It was great Yeah, call back stark tech controlling ox arms a lizard and nano machines and my dude Yeah, what you're just labeling thing. What's the problem explain the problem? He doesn't like that stark tech control of the character. He doesn't like that I really hate that one because I saw it when the trailer came out. It was like electros got stark tech And it's like what do you mean? The best source of electricity in this fucking world will be stark technology Why Did the stock logo off my electro lame It's not even the stock logo. It's just the little fucking arc reactor symbol, but he wouldn't care. What was osborn tech No, he'd love it if he was born Stop a name one fucking name dude literally if you if it was oscorp tech if oscorp existed in mc And they used oscorp tech. He would have loved it even if it was exactly the same Actro who act very differently from what we once saw. Yeah So about that He's a lot less cringe if that's what you mean I'd be curious what his justification is on that. I'd like to hear what he believes elect like Sounds like he thinks electro was assassinated at least in character writing Just because he was clearly they allowed jayme fox to bring in his own charisma this time instead of blocking it out completely And that was just a good decision excellent decision But you know at least itself aware about it this swing around Peter parker rather than deal with his own problems immediately thinks to run to an avenger for help But this time he he did try to deal with it. What do you mean? He did try to he spent like a year trying to live with it until the consequences became Significant for the people around him and then he made the decision And like run away from his problems in both of the films He runs towards his problems because that's what heroes do and he um He tries to get a solution to the problem and it wasn't for his sake It was for other people's sake. Yeah more so than his I guess I just find it annoying like instead of dealing with the problem. So on homecoming He screwed up He lost the suit and then he was going to go on his little home come and dance But as soon as it was presented to him like oh you you were the only person right now who can stop this Gives that up and then goes to solve that problem And then in like far from home, he is basically dealing with the problem that he and part is responsible for allowing to happen I don't understand the idea that he's running away from his problems Because uncle ben didn't say the fucking thing Fuck you Uncle ben didn't pick up 45 to the fucking sternum. So fuck this movie It might be worth addressing it because I'm pretty sure we talked about it off stream But um, I think the timeline for no way home is is longer than we think Like the bulk of the film takes place in a very condensed period of time But like the opening first act we start with the mysterious thing and then some time passes between then and The film because they're going into college, but at the beginning of the film they're entering their senior year of school So we skipped a lot. Yeah, like clearly there was a lot of life to I'm flash wrote a book He didn't write that in a week like that took some time to write and then get published and everything Maybe he writes it Rather than deal with his own problems immediately thinks to run to an avenger for help but this time he suffers immediately after a year But this time he suffers the consequences Then again, I guess to be clear It might not be a year because of like but it's some months like it's not it's not immediately It's not a minute at a time. And the important part is it's not for his sake Yep Been sorely missing peter parker rather than confront the mit assistant vice chancellor Indirectly puts the entire fate of reality at risk peter parker rather I mean, it's it's it's not like he was afraid or something He said it's as simple as failing to understand that that was a possibility But I think it's fair like when you get a letter saying you've been denied I don't think you think I should appeal to the vice chancellor You just assume I've been denied Hence him being like, oh, I guess I could try that if that's a thing you can do Then have his mission based in empathy We'd rather get rid of these villains these victims as soon as possible so we can focus on what's really important He doesn't know anything about them. Well, yeah, that's not a problem At that point. It's only once he finds out that sending them back will kill them that uh, he doesn't know that. Yeah Oh man, that's just you're just wrong high top like that's just incorrect Like saying yeah, he wants to get him back and get on with his life It's like like anybody would in this scenario literally anybody. I don't see why you would have any other thoughts They're fucking multiversal beings. You want them to go back to their worlds And dr. Friends is telling you you need to and he is the source for support. Well, no, it's not that these things must remain As soon as possible so we can focus on what's really important get in his girlfriend and best friend into college It's as if the story is important to him. That is important to him. Yes. I think he's he's saying that actually Um, is he saying that? Yeah, I don't think he's being sarcastic on what's really important Get in his girlfriend and best friend into college It's as if the storytellers realized the absurdity of peter parker Accidentally ordering a drone strike on a classmate the redundancy of him constantly trying to stand on his own But then regressing back into a mini avenger If you save the world with a team of people you are regressing as a character The fucking stupidest You can't be a friendly neighborhood spider-man if there's no neighborhood Yes, but that's a little So it can't be used seriously And he didn't I hate the kindergarten level understanding of he gives up the iron spider suit at the end of homecoming But he has it an infinite It's just like yeah on one hand He's offered a roll and he says i'm gonna stick to the neighborhood and then on the other It's the end of the fucking world And several months later too. I like how we just forget that there was a period of time I think influence war nailed it He dubbed him an avenger because he is one you can't you can't choose to be one at that point You are one you are you are acting on the behalf of the world with a bunch of superheroes called the event You made the decision to do that. He saw a spaceship and is like, oh, I probably should help with that We did this in um goes and helps page of ultron if you go out there. You're an avenger Yeah, that's the sound it's avenger is not like a team with a membership like plan, you know Like that's not if if you are there you're an avenger. That's just how it works The avengers are not like quib gift. No, the reason why he got the iron spider suit was because he wouldn't someone's pointed out He died I love to use this as an example of him regressing what it's like. He would have been suffocated gave him the suit and then tried to parachute him back to earth But he shot to get back on the ship to help out Because that's I love the idea that high top would have walked up to him at that point been like Hey, you're regressing stop trying to stop at the end of the world I I do love the idea of like hey fighting aliens. All right, that's regression Helping people find their lost bikes You'll get that cat out of a tree I guess it's really weird We got a whole movie of him like a very low stakes in this neighborhood friendly neighborhood spider man movie And we just like ignore that that exists We hate it fucking hates it because Tony Stark is in it Very briefly too the college It's as if the storytellers realized the absurdity of peter parker accidentally ordering a drone strike on the thing Like I don't disagree with that Yeah, stupid, but that's one element like do we I don't I don't mean that he's been doing it for the whole video So like it's like we talk about the stupid things that happen in a lot of spider man movies Because the implication here is that this stupid element Is like destroying everything Is like the amount of stupid things that happen It was really stupid how doc ock threw peter who he didn't know was a superhero into a wall so hard that it would have killed him That was really stupid when he did him Yeah, this is not a game you want to start tallying points up for because it will not work for you I concede just because you've internalized the stupidity of those things Alien What were the odds that evil alien goofing landed right next to the most powerful agent in this world? And happened just at the right time to bring him into conflict with the man who killed his dad who fell Who was running? Well, no his uncle and fell into a sand experiment that turned him into a sand monster And then that didn't kill him. He lived I concede this this element is dumb. I just do not concede that it makes the whole film not peter parka's story or some shit This is like hang on Because if we're what because if we're just going to be able to nullify the whole movie based on one thing Then there are no good spider-man movies. Yeah, then um That's not a standard that you are going to you are going to be willing to It's going to be very hot but it'd be any good films at all at that point exactly if Usually the film has a couple of problems Yeah, one bad thing can't just nullify the the whole movie. I mean, it's just Ale it is a scale. It's a little nice spectrum Someone's got a quote where he says I had a father his name was I think it's supposed to be bad No, I had a father his name was uncle bad I had a father his name was uncle then His name was grandpa My classmate a redundancy of him constantly trying to it's not redundant And I'm so sorry so many people don't understand like this particular thing or at least some people don't that um It wasn't for the rewards and that's how he sees this moment is this is your trophy. Look at it. Take it Meanwhile, infinity warriors. No, we're actually in the middle of a fight. You're dying Take the suit to survive. It's your choice if you want to pursue the aliens who are trying to destroy earth Also, everybody loved the irons This feels like an awkward one everybody loved that shit when I saw it in the trailer and it's from the comics But now we've come around to iron spider sucks. It's weird. It's a it's a weird argument I don't really care to entertain that much. I'm just like, you don't like the suit. Okay. I like the suit No, let's talk about someone else and the suit's gone now. So He barely uses it. It's true. Yeah, he's at the beginning of far from home. He bit like And then yeah, I'm against destroyed. Yeah, well, and I guess a little bit of the war people would argue, but Yeah I got two-thirds of infinity where I guess Was it no, not everyone loved it. It's like so free But I'm willing to bet that that was one of the big cheer moments in infinity war if you watch all of the reactions To stand on his own but then regressing back into a mini avenger and decided to this is mini avenger too Yeah, I was just about to say because he's young So because he takes orders from the leader that has been the leader because he created the fucking team Call themselves to call the character out on that kind of behavior He's been called out on this behavior for his whole trilogy. It's all about his Irresponsible uh decisions That works for you not everyone loved it get over it. Okay You didn't say everyone it wasn't supposed to be literal. I know Everyone loves we don't need to have someone fucking tell us there's still a guy out there. I'm really sorry. You're right You're right. I was wrong. I'm really sorry. I screwed it up when I said everybody I meant not everybody and I should have made that clearer. I'm really sorry Okay, you're totally right and I'm wrong Did you know did you know that fun fact whenever when anyone ever says everybody they never mean everybody Everybody there's some life advice for you You pointed out When it was just me, you're right. It was just me. I'm the only person in the world who liked that suit I'm the I'm the only person. There's no single person Well, I like this you're a liar now. Please leave Yeah, I don't know if you guys knew this but fringy. I actually I told I I told I know I told you fringy that I wouldn't tell anyone but I'm gonna Fringy actually admitted to us that he's a hard solipsist He thinks that he's actually the only mind In the entirety of the cosmos and all the rest of us We are we're actually thinking of his imagination that he has conjured up I'm like in that little pod overfets and and this is just It's all Everything revolves around me It's all me and everybody has the same perspective that And I can't fathom that anybody would ever disagree with me I like so much about me today. I'm learning so much about me And I'm thank you for pointing out that not everybody not literally everybody like the iron spider suit, right? I've learned a lot today. I really appreciate He's teaching himself a lot about himself Yeah You guys are helping me We are we are fringies han solo better every day. I'm trying to do better. All right Fringy I for you forgive you. So was it I dig the iron spider suit touch grass All right, like that's just two people. Okay, that doesn't change the fact that I was wrong. I'm sorry It's as if the filmmakers realized that they needed a do-over with mcu spider-man not a do-over No, definitely do over Absolutely, it's a continuation He's he's very much consistently characterized. And so I just I'm gonna need some references mr High top instead of you just because to me, you know, my theory is is you like this one You're like fuck. I gotta separate it from those other two stanky films. Yeah, I can't give it credit That's like giving it a point and it's not on my team and I can't do that And a soft core back to basics reboot. It's as if no, he was actually going toward getting to what you perceive is his basics um Because every hero we see Uh in their primes like they had to get there somehow and they were younger at one point Uh, maybe you don't want to see that story and that's totally fine But um, that's just that's just to say that it's a fucking Reboot because it's more so closer now to the way that like if someone said my favorite iron man is the one we're like the Is it extremis where he has That's whatever and so it's like watching i-man one. You're like, this isn't really iron man to me Um, I'm glad you guys like it, but this isn't this isn't my iron man You watch i-man two and you're like No, we sit I like the whole poison blood thing. They could have used that to get into extremis But no, they didn't Then we get all the way to infinity war and they're like, okay. This is almost we're almost there We've almost gotten to my iron man And let's say endgame didn't end with him dying But rather almost dying and he has to use experimental iron man tech to Combine his blood with metal or some bullshit and they're like finally we've got iron man I just be like, okay I guess it's just When you have a character with such an expensive history, you know Like people are gonna have different ideas of what it means Absolutely, um or what they want and that's okay. Like what you prefer is I feel like that's the things to emphasize Like is okay if you don't like it Imagine I said like endgame was the first time we actually had iron man because of all of his like stupid Uh Aggression and stupid decisions toward power and how to use weaponry and stuff and constantly getting everyone in trouble What I hate about mcu spider-man is he constantly makes everything? Sorry mcu iron man is he constantly makes everything worse for everybody iron man one Like oh, yeah made a soup, but then fucking iron manga starts destroying everything and then iron man two It's like just in hammer and he doesn't really do a good job and i even vanco and stuff and iron man three He's like baiting the mandarin and it's like god. He only does is make mistakes. Look at ultron I was recently like I mean What you're saying isn't necessarily false, but like what's the problem? Yeah, iron man lunes the same lesson over and over again That's something they say about um spider-man is he learned the same lesson in home coming far from home and no way home Which drives me nuts I don't know if that'll turn up in this video We shall see If they realized that spider-man no way home could actually be the way to get spider-man back home And i'm here for it man genuinely. I really am I only know you're not No, you're not you you are unhealthily biased against something for stupid reasons and it's It's childish and you need to grow up as a film critic. He's um, he's here for the last 10 minutes of no way home He wasn't here for anything else Except maybe the rainy bits There was no interesting seeing the story that they were gonna tell No, yeah If someone had pitched it to him before it's like we want to tell the story of how a little boy Who's growing up in the world of the mcu becomes spider-man you probably be like, um I'd rather see and be spider-man The film didn't look like it was shot over a zoom caller in kevin feige's basement I get this was made during the time of a pandemic I don't know It doesn't like the shots Okay, this is another one of those times It's just like we blink it where i'm like go look at your old favorite movies A lot of them will have the shots that you're talking about but you just don't talk about them because you don't want to talk about them Oh, I wasn't in i wasn't in toby maguire's dingy apartment. Oh or some dirty alley Oh, so we can do this all day. Exactly didn't look like it was shot over a zoom caller in kevin feige's basement I don't even know what he's referring to even trying to like discover what he means by that shot over a zoom call And then he shows them talking to each other on their phones If we put got him in front of the cinematographer, he wouldn't say these things or if he did of course not because Oh, dude, his because a cinematographer would say what's actually working, wouldn't he? Oh, yeah, because they would say oh, yeah We took all this time and effort to make sure that the color grading was you know Nice balance nothing was too vibrant nothing was too dull We had to make sure everything of course was in focus with decent depth of field where it was necessary And all of this shit that we we put a lot of time and effort to making this film Look good because this film does look good I'm confused guys because I just screenshoted this this right here And then I put contrast up by 50 in photoshop and then I posted on the internet everyone said it looked better So I don't understand Checkmate because if the people on twitter said it then it must not be true During the time of a pandemic But I found no way home to be 80 percent of the time hideously ugly with no tangible Oh god, you're referencing this song as the hideously ugly one. This scene was fucking baller. You're wrong This was amazing 80 percent of this movie was so when an actual ugly movie comes out like army of the dead You know like the yeah How is 80 percent of this movie hideously? That's the thing when everything is hyperbole that you say it just devalues all your statements It was interesting shot like ramy so he doesn't like it Well, you know, and you know what that is 110 000 true with the example he just showed which Just give me a second. I'm totally not stalling right now in order to get you know what while i'm stalling You guys sure enough if you were stalling I feel like we would know So You may very well be aware of this anyway, but i'll show you I know that low. Yeah, we'll be aware of this Let's do it show it give it to me. So, um, yeah, I'm just just clicking away getting exactly what I need But Yeah, no, it's good that you're taking your time and getting it all that setup because you know There's been a lot of build up being sold on this idea of what's to come I want to be able to I want to see your your creative vision. Hi tough would appreciate that. This is And creative is are not made in a in a minute. They're made in many minutes often consecutive especially on Let us for a moment. We'll just have to yeah, there we go Excellent. I've got it now. So this is this is something that gets highlighted here and there in videos because it's pretty fucking amusing Yeah, the the counter to this is gonna be appealing to a sense of whimsy or some shit I don't know but anyway, what I really liked and it stuck out to me And it probably stuck out to a couple people is mary jane's reaction. Well, I guess I'll say mjx is michelle jones um To being carried around by him In this film, which is like jesus fucking christ never ever do that to me ever again, which is like That's probably true. That's just probably fucking weird. This was made during the time ignore high top for a second I'm of a pandemic. Oh, gladly. Look at the way this is shot and look what it just what it portrays about the experience of Latching onto spider-man as he fucking carries. I found no way home to be 80 percent of the time a really unsafe roller coaster that you have no fucking clue if you're gonna make it Yeah, um So that's interesting right and I think it's it's great for representing exactly what it is now We go and look at um a certain spider-man movie From ramy I'm gonna pause there for copyright's sake. Well, and by the way, I like the ramy movies Everyone calm down because it feels like we're more than welcome to absolutely shit on Watch his work and compare it positively compared to ramy positively I'm just making this comparison. Okay. Everyone already knows what I'm gonna be showing It right here Um, that looks like shit and the spider-man is a mannequin Can we at least agree that what's improved on the hair is blowing the wrong way? Yes, that's another thing That's so bizarre, but the shot. It's not a good shot. This is clearly this. No, but you see it's good. You know, that's charm It's charm. Yeah Prop is it is goofy This is bad Clearly worse than the no way home. It's so obviously worse Looking spot of any a moving And he's a mannequin. It's really funny to think about but yeah, I'm sorry like this is worse Uh, right. I'd be surprised if high top said it would better But maybe he would So, uh, I've never I've never inspected ramy. Sorry. Okay. Wait. Wait. Wait. So someone said, uh Can we agree 2021 is more advanced than 2002? So that was a choice made to have a really like intense fast Like well a scary amusement park. Oh, let's go more base. Let's go more basal than that. Okay. Yeah, go for it All right. What was it about 2000 and what to do? Yeah What was it about 2002 that required them to use a prop and have her hair blowing the wrong way? I was gonna say that's the obvious response. They had they had the capacity to film it They didn't from the get go. This is a this is a shockingly malformed Little thought we're doing here And it feels to me Like a little bit of bias It could be it. I'm not gonna jump to that conclusion But now fucking it's biased. I have not thoroughly inspected Everything from all these movies because I don't do this the way that high top does I'm much more invested in the writing um But the idea that no way home doesn't have like anything in it camera wise or Color whatever the fuck he wants to categorize the whole thing as it's just like I think that's bullshit I think there's plenty we can complement Time of a pandemic, but I found no way home to be 80 of the time hideously ugly with no tangible sense of space or reality No tangible sense of space or reality Now, are you specifically referring to the mirror dimension because I wonder if in your high top You are specifically referring to the place that's the goofy gonzo mirror realm That is not supposed to have a normal sense of space and time and you are applying the entire film It just feels because like this is obviously like there's CGI here in this shot like this You know there's there's clearly stuff going on in the back, but then what about all the other scenes that are in just like regular places Like in the apartment Or Why I just there are plenty of blue screens I I guess but like there are plenty of scenes that don't have that like if you show this scene sure But what about like other ones? Yeah, what about uh, uh, Peter's apartment. What about happy's apartment? Yeah double on the apartments here. What about when they're in the rubble, you know things of that nature Silly ugly with no tangible sense of space or reality a lot of Yeah, well, especially with the visual. It's like, oh, I can help you out high top There's a staircase in the sanctum sanctorum And I'm not strange just going up it. They are there at the bottom of it and they are looking up at him Yeah, it's pretty I got really clear Yeah, we we we started with an establishing shot when they entered it. It's a really easy to understand space Like this should sorry like great Handle it because it's in the mcu It feels so just unfair when people do stuff like that. I'm just like, what do you you think you're saying stuff? You on Not even at all. Uh-huh or reality a lot of singles characters fantastic actors isolated and this this film is like Or this video. Did you want them to actually film at the Statue of Liberty? Who fucking knows what he wants? Yeah, it's the thing This film is just the ultimate for people that already agree with me video. Yeah. Oh, definitely This video is not convincing it. There's no arguments here. You're not convincing me. I'm assuming we'll get to the writing at some point Hit in front of a green screen interacting with nothing edited clearly. He's interacting with something Plinket stuff here and it's oh boy careful. Yeah, we're just like this process To acknowledge that it was shot in a pandemic Which may well have meant that it was harder for them to shoot on location and then to shit on them for that He was real awkward. Yeah, he's already acknowledged the pandemic too, but then he's just like, oh well Yeah Is this a is this an accidental Like what is this in an indirect way? sort of poo-pooing on the actors for their inability to Perform their tasks Well, because that's the thing I think that we've been fucked by Plinket unfortunately And I don't blame Plinket exclusively for this But when he said Ewan McGregor was acting on literally just an entire room of green And that it comes through in this performance because he doesn't react to certain things at certain times I think that's completely fair. But now people have evolved that into If they find out that's the case they will use it against the film whether or not they noticed anything And that that's that's not right. Uh, there are some actors who really can nail it Even if there's nothing in front of them at all Well, what is a stage performance if not in a lot of cases relying on your imagination to fill in the blanks? Exactly Depending on the variety of the stage like some stage productions have massive amounts of props and backgrounds and stuff But sometimes it's incredibly minimal Yeah, absolutely Um, I'm just looking for something right quick. If you want me to just want to talk about anything I just Yeah, um part of what he's talking about Fringy, what's on your mind? Uh, nothing. I've just been reeling over how wrong I am I know I'm just I'm still trying to figure out ways to move forward So high top has the existential dread of of course the planet burning to a crisp again I have the existential dread of nobody exists but me That's uh, that's that's a scary thought to have but uh, well, if you ever need you to help well, you know what? um, we're actually I uh, this might not be the opportunity because it looks like more was trying to set something up But I got some fan art That uh, that's really cool Well, I mean we yeah, I mean even if I mean you could show us so we can go Oh, and then chat will go. Oh, you have to post it for us now. We have to see it's not fair. It's not fair. What is this tyranny? Oh, it's not it's not oh files are too powerful Oh my goodness gracious. Well, I think I can send you this one. You think it's smaller with your goo or Or can you just make it smaller? Or alternatively you can just check twitter because I tweeted it out. Oh my goodness hour ago. Oh my god Fat chibi fringy No, a little doughnut down With a little doughnut and bulging fat and the buttons can belly hold on for the vest What what inspired this version of fringy? I have no idea. I don't think uh, he said that there wasn't really any reason it was I then uh No, I know I just think it's how I look fat for you little doughnut Delicious, and then uh, there was just one where it was just me in the halo universe with microtransactions all around me to Like vehicle paints and colors Um Because it costs so much money to get some colors There we are. I was just trying to find one that was Sorry, I was trying google images first and that was a mistake. I should have gone straight to youtube, but I think the point will have been made Pretty clearly. Um, I agree with high top every time they go on fucking blue screens and green screens The whole movie feels fucking fake. Am I right? Oh Oh, no, what are you doing? You're not going to know what I think you're going to show you Look at this horrific use of blue slash green screen. I'm not sure what movie this is Oh Oh, no, but mauler you can't you can't do this Well, so the interesting thing is that I guarantee you high top will be like well to be fair That's a special effect shot. It's when they're going to be the car comes through the window or some shit I should be like, do you think there's no special effect shots in what tom hollanda gets up to in that scene? Why do you think there are blue screens? Why like that's the whole fucking point a lot of the time like they need to recreate locations They can't get to necessarily or they need to have something crazy big happen And I was like, of course, I we don't have the time if I had known this is going to happen I could have gotten some examples ready, but there's going to be plenty of that throw all of the Raimi's filming course. There is it's okay. Don't worry. It'll be fine. It's a technique Yeah, um And so I don't know like if it feels super weird to just pick this for tom holland as you guys can see and just Be like bad. You're like, oh I don't even know the context of this this shot like I don't even know what that was required or what was needed But yeah, I can see a lot of reason for why they would have filmed this this way, but no bad like, oh Okay They broke the head and I ain't blurred. It's very true Also, there's that freaky out. Let's have a look here. This is what freaky was talking about Dorm We won left Um With nothing edited together with another fantastic or whatever it's called Sorry What is wrong with this you've got your actors you've even got the cars around to give But like, uh, well the background's a blue and it's like, yes, they can fucking make it whatever they want later. I don't know like What's what who died? Yeah There is isolated in front of a green screen interacting with nothing edited together with another fantastic actor Probably shot weeks months later reacting isolate. So that could be the case That could be the case But you have to prove that that system does not work And like I said that when plinkett did it with how uh, obi-wan doesn't react at all to a bunch of lightsabers flinging around in his face Like yeah, that's a great example Well, but the thing is if you have a conversation between myself and rags and recorded three months apart, but you could never tell Then Well, I mean as long as you're as immersed does it matter Yeah, exactly When you watch the simpsons and you know that all of these lines were recorded in isolation Like does that screw things up for you? There's a thing I would prefer that they're on set together But sometimes you can't pull that off and so now it's about like making sure that you nail it And if they do This is a part of the talent of acting and directing that you can do these sorts of things and the audience wouldn't ever know I wonder how many of those things you'd never know if you didn't go looking for it Or if someone hadn't shown you think about reshoots Imagine they they figured out when they finished by the man too that they were like, oh tobi You flubbed this line this line. This one doesn't work. This one doesn't work Uh, we're not getting everyone back to do all those scenes. We're just gonna record you You know on your own doing them. I would high top die. Would you be like this is the worst thing that's ever happened in my life? You don't know how to make films this way It did in front of a separate green screen This has been the marvel method for a good bit, but it's never felt so noticeable to me the spatial continuity I didn't I didn't really feel it black widow Are you really telling me when you watch Black Widow The end of the film black widow. Yeah Like do you really believe are you telling me that there was in this film when you saw that you're like, you know That reminds me it's actually worse than when yelena and nat exactly We yelling at each other on this very loud like this place that they clearly are not in Absolutely. Yeah, like This is not worse than black widow. Come on. No Visual rhythm has never felt so off to me No way home clearly needed a few more months in the oven because the half No, I was actually impressed by how much it seems CGI pretty so I would agree that that But but more time would help like a lot of films in terms of every every film like basically every film if you said Yeah, oh, you're ready. You're oh, here's a couple extra months to just polish Just go through look through again As long as we don't get a black panther shot where they're fighting each other as though they're from earlier than 2000 I think yeah, I con him That's actually a good example black panthers visual effects, man. Oh And it's only enough this shot that he's referencing. This was one where for a moment when I was watching it I was like, oh, yeah, he's on a green screen. Yeah, but in my own head. I'm like, well, of course. He is flying everywhere He's definitely on a green screen, especially with the look what's in the background Look at what that was the fucking mirror to bed. It's like I can forgive them not being able to nail everything especially on crunch time Um, I think it's really mean to do this to this film and to never do this with any of the fucking films that he praises through it again Not trying to say like what other films do it? I just don't get his pov. I never have Uh, it's just like all the things you highlight are present in other stuff that you love But you use it against the mcu spidey Because you got to use something against him bias incarnate Pgi really left a stale taste in my mouth It's not by any means the fault of the artists who probably finished working on it last week after months of sleepless caffeinated nights But if you have to use recycled footage from spider-man 3 They weren't available to shoot I don't see how that's like We're fine. We're gonna be fine by using a couple shots. I didn't I didn't even know it was recycled footage I you probably would have I did was the sandman. Um, yeah sandman. I was like, I'm pretty sure I've seen that shot before But that's yeah, it's okay. Um, I see now, you know, like I can see it now But yeah, I just didn't notice at the time. I hadn't seen that movie in a while Again, so if I make this video, it'll be okay Spider-man just to provide satisfying emotional closure to two of your lead villains It might be to say that like I feel like you're bumping them up a little higher than they probably should be when we've got so much going on They are the lowest of the of the five Well, so if you were to tear them, it would be dark arc then green goblin Oh, well, you could kind of put if they're villains green goblin's not like green goblins at the top Uh, and then electrocid with those two is four and five. If anything sandman four lizard five. I think, um Being like wow, you did this to one of your villains. You're like dude Dude five villains come on now And how come you don't say this about venom in spider-man three? Well, how come we're not acknowledging that they juggled five way better than ramy juggled three? Yeah Yeah, spider-man three was shit Time to delay the movie what i'm trying to say really is that I wish I could why were you there when black and white looking You you are you there in black and white looking to the right and then looking forward So what is what is that like explain to me what that is? Yeah, let's do it. So fringy. Do you want to do it or should I explain visual rhythm? Because rags clues When it comes to visual rhythm or let's just say legitimate tactile responses to any kind of engagement Cinematically what you need to understand is that language through cinema is complicated And uh through the visual medium you can actually portray a lot of what is essentially like flow So, okay, there you go Okay, I all right. I think I all right. I think we're on the same wavelength here in terms of artistry of the System hopefully chat understand that as well because I think a lot of them definitely I think I feel yeah, all right to two of your lead villains It might be time to delay the movie what i'm trying to say really is that I wish It's kind of funny now actually That's just That shot I just need that shot right there for that. Okay, it's just it's so important It's weird when I Because when I make a video or when you make a video we're like, okay visuals are very important So what we're showing should have like a purpose It should mean something it should have some relevance to what i'm saying So I guess if I said the word I I should show me, right? Or maybe an eye But not yeah, two eyes Oh my goodness gracious We're only half way I know it's taking a lot longer than movie Bob, but that's it's okay Okay Villains it might be time to delay the movie what i'm trying to say really is that I wish I could Well, we just we just hit the seven minute point. So movie Bob's video is just ending right now Plus we had to add to this one. Yeah, that's true We got Kylo Ren. That's right. You'd hear more of John Watts voice as a filmmaker as an artist His visual touches in this film the wonders the trackers the rarer violence are more predominantly rower rower Rower he did mean roar, right? More raw. I guess I guess yeah, I guess he meant more raw and he said rar R R A W R rar less than three You will Ruzzles your melch Artist his visual touches in this film the wonders the trackers the rarer violence are more predominant But he's doing wrong caught up rar So we just established quite a few little touches that have to come from his vision But then we're just like, yeah, but you know, no, no, no Too much green screen. It's like oh, he's suck Islands are more predominant, but he still feels caught up too cage confined to the mcu films hamster How do you determine this? There's no what and how do you not apply this to the other films? He's just saying would he say this about eternals? For instance that that one was confined and caged by the marvel considering that and what does it do when Chloe Zhao says no It's my movie. It's not the mcu's. Well, which he said several times that she had a lot of what do you do High-time what you wanted you seem to be so short and then what are you doing like Zhong Qi what do you do with that one is that one so confident on these Seemingly random assertions. It's like the seven people on the camera and John is trying to muscle his way to it It's like they're all the mcu people. They just they're just like yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna push you No, you have the stink of is knee about you Get away from the camera. I'll have you go home I'll finish this movie Flatly with medium shots a spider-man film has never felt so visually texturless to me Visually texturless to you you're just saying I don't want to say Hey, look at his jacket. Yeah, this texture so aesthetically lifeless with no How is this life list aesthetically? Are you nuts? All opposite of what you just said. Oh, maybe if it was a puppet it would have more life Come on. This is a joke extra list to me so aesthetically lifeless with no sense of It's so full of energy the the moment here is how much of fucking annoying it is to be dragged through the air This fast by one person. You're desperately hanging on to I don't understand Jebility to me the visual styling gets in the way of the story and storytelling too many And that part is fucking awesome, but okay, so if you this boring shot of him Just sitting there in front of some papers Well, why don't you show the cool shot of the wow you can't because it's not available But the three spider-men speaking around You almost want to take the video and just flip the keywords where you need them with the best impressionist ever And then just have all the the bland visuals of the raving movies and all the best shots from the mcu ones Yeah, if we're just going to be that uncharitable Yeah Show up they make their grand return to beloved spider-men icons You will never get to experience that feeling again neither will I and that experience. He said I and he showed him. That's art I saw it off everyone I saw it Look at that woman on the right. She's very interestingly Do you have that purple hat and then like like the the bluish purple Jacket and then that reddish white blouse and then you could tell she's got a sweater underneath that and the earrings She's like uh, she's dressed like a wizard. It is great the collective love like no other But that experience will always have been filmed in how bland those crowds are compared And fuck it He loves he loves them coming back, but it will always been filmed in the boring way that john watts films I'm shocked edited for applause and edited for applause Explained yeah, please explain as though movies don't get built in a way that have climaxes Like please tell me how ramy has never done that. What the hell are you talking about written staged in ned's staged State it's all It's will always have been filmed in boring medium shots edited for applause and written staged in ned's Grandma's house. What the fuck's wrong with that? What's wrong with that with Ned's grandma's house. Oh my god He's a friendly neighborhood. Yeah in the little neighborhood and he pops up in a little old lady's house And that facilitates a lot of great jokes It's like he's saying we needed to have it so that the portal opened in like the the fucking Oriboralis and like Spider-man came through on his spider-man spaceship and he was like a speaker being like this is the spider man fireworks fire Why I don't get it Like did it did it take like a genius to notice that this was deliberate that Peter Parker Toby McGuire walks in in casual clothing into just some house in the middle of a neighborhood saying hi Yeah, it's great. It summarizes exactly. What kind of person he is. He's just your normal How awkward is it though? By the way, it's like shit on the film being edited for applause But then shit on it for not doing a grand enough introduction of these characters Yeah in like 10 seconds. You just flipped your position And it's funny because like I don't know what what did he want what I'm trying to envision what the fuck he was after He wants one where they swing in and ever and some new yorkers like I look spider-man is new york. Yeah Yeah, forget about it. Yeah, I'm walking in you mess with one new york. You mess with all of us Okay, look this spider-man look at him go. That's what he was. You know what he would want the guy to go It's ramy spider-man I sure do love ramy spider-man. Yeah, that's the best spider-man ever did. Yeah, I love it webs come out of his body I want him just once I want him to take a scene Explain what is wrong with it? Why it's wrong and what he would do to improve it And don't refer to any other scenes you have to explain why this scene this specific scene is bad At no reference to anything else in the film It's like you have to relevant right basically Do you know in the boondocks when the guy's possessed and uncle ruckus comes in and makes him read? I haven't seen it. You know that no I'm trying to leave out the the horrific racist bits that are really funny But for those of you in chat who know the scene i'm talking about that's like That's high top would be Tied to the bed and he's the evil spirit and you're just like making him try to To do that and he's like, ah, no never and objects are just flying around the room Just do a little bit of like video criticism. No Sounds like Palpatine. No All of you in chat Isn't it just great the this has been pointed out by people before but I feel like we did as well just the Spider-man didn't but heads. They just walked and respected each other's efforts and existence and stuff And they weren't welcomed in with applause or shock or a huge audience as they Clap lightning and thunder as they land again not knocking thaws entrances and stuff But that's just that's how you thought this was the first one comes in This little old lady is screaming and throwing things at him. He's like stop. Stop. It's just like It's so like cute wholesome and small and the second one comes in and dad's like, who's this guy? Uh, I love it. It's so subtle compared to how you would expect them to do superhero entrances But no you get punished for that now Yeah, they should have It needs to be in the oval office or maybe during the super bowl right on the 50 yard line That's that's the middle. Why wasn't in space? It should have been in the middle of the live the large hadron collider during a live experiment it should have been I maybe battle of the psalm perhaps. I don't know something maybe during the olympics Uh, my michael phelps was about to win his 78th gold medal or whatever he's up to right before he gets to the finish wall Um, he just he falls into the water. Oh my goodness gracious. It's spider man. He can swim I think There's back and I just wish that that resurrection that once in a lifetime moment was a tad more awe inspiring spider man swinging has never felt so lifeless Literally used to puppet you literally used to puppet You gotta stop You stop that right now puppet Well, so so like let's be real here Like the web swinging in in the ramy films like a lot of the time it'd be super majestic and cool and I like it But you compare it to like the more realistic swinging that you see in the tazen films or I guess like kind of going for a similar thing in like the mcu ones, but it's just you've got better tech now It's like I don't I don't want to say like It's I mean the triple spider man swing was fucking awesome. Yeah I'm guessing he hated that too Soaring together will always get a massive applause even if it looks like murky unfinished pre-vis with less Come on. You can't honestly say this about This web swinging in this movie but then talk about how awesome it is in the old ones It looks so good. It looked good. I'm sorry. I don't want to say it. Yeah Also, we've spent more than half the video now just Strictly talking about how it looks You'd think he'd want to talk about the character work. He talked about the yeah I'll clarity and punch them what mark webb did in 2012 and what sam ramie did in 2000 Yeah, but what john warts did doesn't even count rakes. It's the studio. His voice isn't in there Yeah, I don't know why you're not. I don't even know why you're saying I I again it feels real awkward like did you not sit far from home the ending little web swing in new york? It's fucking awesome like it. Shut up great. It's weighty We got a lot of movement a lot of variety in terms of what he's doing. He's then starts flying around. It's great To know it sounds like I hate this film. Trust me guys I would say that like the the web swing in the tazam film is fucking awesome. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah I promise you that spider-man no way home is my favorite of the watch trilogy. It's my favorite Oh, yeah, there's ramy stuff in it. I wasn't we could have figured that The mcu has done with the character since 2016 and it's the first time that tom haulins peter parker has really felt like spider-man to me Whatever, okay, because it's an origin story. Yeah We Thousand times don't say just all right then there's a moment that big moment when the tone took that massive switch When the mcu ism started taking a backseat being restrained I don't even know what it means when people say every time someone says something like that the mcu tone or the mcu ism I just want to say hold on What do you mean? Well, especially the reference Stuff like eternals or kept him on and you just like well, those are the shitty ones, right? So when they do well, is it not mcu anymore? um I can always guess what they're talking about but um and i'm assuming in this case he's referring to um changing changing tone Even though he just said the tonal switch as if to imply that's a good thing even though let's be honest um The scene begins at the spider sense and then it just goes down and darker and more serious and raw until we get Unmai dying There was no tonal shifts in homecoming though Not like when vulture found out who he was and it was entirely serious and there were no jokes at all No, this is the first time they've done that in no way home actually far from home when he's on the plane with happy And it's just entirely like tonally just we we're not doing jokes right now So like we have those moments. You just don't remember them. They don't do jokes They I don't think they've ever done a joke in any of these films like in the fight with the bad guy when he beats them Like it's entirely played totally straight and serious every time When he fights vulture, it's played straight when he fights Mysterio right at the end it's played straight and when he's fighting goblin, it's totally played straight Conversely in captain marvel, they don't play it straight when she's going to fight jude law gets punted across the screen being like That big moment when the tone took that massive switch when the mcu isms started taking a back seat being Restrained to dr. Strange's prison. Yeah, so just to clarify mcu ism is when there's a joke During a scene awesome. So that so what happens when there's like when we see bruce cambal And he's making jokes in the ramy films. Is that that shit's great shut up. It's great. It is great though That's it's gold But it it always feels like it only is because it's not the mcu to him No, like that's it. Yes, that is it That's it. He's because it's the mcu finally allowed genuine emotion. Nah Finally allowed there it is Finally allowed genuine emotion All it took was one of spider-man's Parenting body one of his guardians to fucking die. That's the shit that yeah That's what I mean. It feels like it's engineered. It was it's like I've been waiting for uncle band. This is good enough This is real emotion now. It's like dude As if it's not real genuine emotion on that fucking airplane like bullshit Genuine sincerity when no way home transition from genuine You Your sincerity is a lie Ha ha ha re-dropped Please no, it's genuine legitimate real actual actual From being a standard messy modern mcu flick to final i'm sorry Didn't he fucking love like I never understand this shit like the mcu is whatever he wants it to be Whenever it's in reference to a thing It's just because he's praised the mcu before right Totally he fucking said like a falcon went to soldier. He said it was like one of the best things to see the mcu Even though that is like he's a crazy weird out Absolutely peaks ludge. You're right. Yeah. Um, he Didn't I don't know what he thought of black widow. He loved Wonder Woman 84 doesn't really count I guess because I can believe that he loves Wonder Woman Yeah, because it's a creative vision and then all you have to say about the suicide squad was that it was alive Oh, yeah, he because he didn't like it. Yeah, but he didn't want to say that to his audience. He's like it's alive Yeah Alive And that transition happened as soon as they allowed peter parker to Hi, you ask us like what what what were your problems with or were your problems with suicide squad? What were your problems with book above effect? What are your problems with this film that film and our answers will always be the same Uh, the characters are inconsistent. They don't behave as they should the plot doesn't make any sense Uh, it's all it's always this the same stuff you hear from us because we're consistent with it And with him, it's just like I don't you did you like it? Did he not like it? I don't know We're in a fucking culture where you can just say absolutely anything if people don't give a fuck anymore Because they're not even listening like it's saying why is it that this better? This is better than the other two in the mcu. It's like well because they let peter feel real emotions like yeah I agree. You know you do yes, absolutely Can you explain why you feel that way? Why can't you just let me like things? Maybe you need to think harder about what the thing you think is because that sounds like a placeholder that you've just agreed That is true. You haven't thought about it at all And movie and that transition happened as soon as they allowed peter parker to feel Allowed us to witness to empathize with loss with wrong. He's never lost anything before in the He's never felt anything genuine He's never really felt you know He's always been kind of robotic Tom Holland especially just as an actor. You know, he just doesn't really emote anything I completely agree far from home was revolutionary If he says it, it's true. This is what I mean about the whole like When you got annoyed that jay responded to him because he was like wow I can have my opinion. You can have yours and jay was trying to explain It's like the things you say some of the things you say are false Mm-hmm. Like what what are we to do about that? Your opinion is a lie. It's not true You told the non-truth and you said it's your opinion. Well, yeah, you can be wrong That's where you have to get on the ground floor Opinions can be wrong. The sun is beautiful. I love how purple it is Well, what if they got fucked up eyes Well, they don't they don't know what if what if what if sam raimi directed the sun Ooh Consider for your amusement. Let's carry on Yeah, if someone just came away saying I thought he was out of character and you're like why it's like, um, I'm just Killing the green goblin was fucked up. He didn't kill a green goblin. He was he was sort of like, well Yeah, but he may as well know like a metaphorical death It's like garnaviden, you know Grief longing with pain It's a brilliant move to kill aunt may to make her the much needed ben parker I need a fucking dead uncle or a dead ass that was gonna die dead uncle stat and they just roll him in and shoot with the back He couldn't even compliment it as its own thing he had to be like this is uncle ben by the way He like right right Okay I'm more than fine with mcu peter being pretty much raised by a single mother That's a lovely smart addition that could actually add more to this version of the care It did could it did it does But I so I guess we'll carry on a wish I so very wish that I cared about this may parker Well, so now what do we do? Yeah, because I cared about it No way home tries and almost succeeds at making her what she always should have been peter's moral compass so now But like when he says almost succeeds what was missing From this film. How do we it says she was more fleshed out than uncle ben Oh You sir are pushing it, all right You're gonna get cancelled The only problem there is that for the last two movies for the last five years This aunt may has been relegated to the cool chill hot mom summer thing It's a cool. So if you ignore all the meaningful scenes where she talks to peter about his responsibility So I don't know. Yeah, that just seems unfair travesty a tragedy because tom holland really brings it here John he always has What every time fucking you can tell from this shot that he always brings it like why I hate pretending that tom holland is some like shitty actor. It's so fucked up It's just wrong He brings it in the way. He allows her allows peter allows us to feel Allows So clear you just repeat like every single time you got to do three things. That's like allows them allows you allows We allows us allows myself allows them I'm sick of this formula because it happens every time you can't just have one lazy I'm trying to emphasize with some different You just like a look up synonym is for the words, you know, all right three. We're good. We hit the target. All right moving on It's emotional Yeah Of her shocking death. I just wish this was planned wish this was thought out mo- When you say I wish this was planned what exactly do you mean what john what said to you? Yeah, it was well as far as I knew they always plan to kill somebody that was meaningful to peter in no way home They just weren't exactly sure who would do it which is the kind of planning. I prefer Because your story Will dictate a certain few things by the time you get to that payoff And so you have to see what fits with the story the most Because I think we speculate like it could have been that mj gets a fake out death But then ned's the one that actually dies could be aunt may like we said that Yeah, it could be happy. Yeah, absolutely Movies ago because then maybe may parker would have always held the emotional weight Always have been the quintessential strong selfless mother that are comic Are not Just because you weren't paying attention to him doesn't mean that yeah, it was bad Yeah counter part that her other film renditions have always been But is that this film's fault for trying to rectify the previous not a rectifying spilling on it. No, sorry Get to break it to you. I'm not sure. I really don't know. I do know that was necessary Yeah, that after that moment. I started to feel a lot. I started to become invested in this peter's journey Maybe it was the inclusion. Maybe it was all out of the plan to surprise Maybe it was because it was working Let's be honest. Maybe it was just because you were like that was uncle ben death scene. Yes My my ape brain recognizes dead uncle Parallel must clap Clap for dead uncle when he like sees the blood in his head. He's like that's uncle blood. Yes We did it Had to be uncle death Journey maybe it was the inclusion of the other spider men the surprise everyone saw coming But the love I was not expecting Andrew saving mj. Toby leaping in front of norman's glider all wonderful cathartic character moments for two spider men that have been trying to stop Those inevitable that was not a good cut my friend. Yeah, that feels That was really you want you want that one being played silently not not with the third it it's almost comedic Is hard not it's like because you know you wanted to make it work, but you see that again Those inevitable hateful tragedies from ever occurring. They couldn't in their universes They couldn't and will never be able to go back and stop the loss. They have experienced That's a great screen by the way You know that would happen, you know for a fact you'd say well that's on a green screen He'd be like, yeah, they're not gonna film up there. That's dangerous But they are gonna film on the statue of liberty Come on help me out Maybe to quote andrew garfield's always gut punching vulnerable peter parker They can stop tom's peter from ending up like them, but that's the thing right? That's what the movie is saying right that in order to be spider man truly be spider man You must experience life altering unforgettable earth shattering heartbreak. Yeah, like losing your mental a tiny stock But that doesn't count But even then I'd be like I also know also. No. Yeah, you uh Had uncle ben not died Um and something else happened. Well, any that's really recovered You know, what if you went to hospital and came out of it? Okay eventually like I don't This is such a weird way to look at characterization Like you have to experience a major loss to be spider man This is so interesting though because it clashes with that overly sarcastic fridgeing thing, right? She'd be like well gwen stacey was fridgeed. She died to propel peter forward Uncle ben was fridgeed and that's bad writing. Well, they can fight all they want It's just funny because there is conflicting schools of thought right where you've got these guys Where it's like no people need to die to propel our main character where other people say that's a lazy way to do it People die to propel character for that's lazy. You can find better ways to do it. It's just interesting that these clash Um so fascinating that there are so many ways to gain like it's like it's not the death right high top It's what they gain from that what they learn from that and he's like, yeah Blah blah blah blah and it's like do you think there's any other way they can learn that or is it only through a family member? They love dearly dying Because how do you learn things in life? Do you just have people constantly like dropping dead around you? I doubt it right like you learn things just from experiences that you have in life Like I feel like it's a thing you understand like I I was about to stop myself there, but I feel like it's true right most stories don't like feature people dying like most stories Don't do that Probably so you're saying most stories are bad well The problem is i'm trying to think it's like because because you think about like action movies and things like that's like A lot of those films have deaths, but if you think about like romantic comedies a lot of them just have like People interacting with each other You know like a lot of a lot of dramas just have conflicts between people not necessarily deaths or anything like you know Some stories will have like, you know one major death perhaps maybe but like yeah It's just if you if you keep framing it through the lens of like action movies and superhero stories Then I guess you can say that but there's plenty of stories where nobody dies And um, I don't know I think if if we had Ten iterations of spider-man and none of them did a significant family death But they all explored different ways of reaching this point or rather just went different directions What do you do when? Let's say a spider-man. That's just the punisher becomes the new hyper popular one Because like because like this is all it ever seems to me. It's just it's the one that's most commonly accepted as opposed to anything else What do you do then and it's like well, I mean maybe punish is a bad idea All of his family are killed but the fact that he doesn't turn that into What spider-man is typically seen as but rather I will fucking kill criminals, you know it It's also fascinating to me. It's like you can't be spider-man until someone you love dies. I'm just like that's so strange I think that what's more important to spider-man is the great power comes great responsibility the do-gooding no matter what cost it comes to you Ultimately anyway like like with a lot of circumstances and that anybody has the potential to be a hero sort of thing um Rather than you always got to have someone die so that you couldn't learn that life is precious and that through your own inaction or perhaps mistakes You can cause horrible things to happen and that relates to your power and so wait Expand your mind high top there are more ways to do this But it really does seem from the way you've described it now The they did uncle Ben's death scene or their own rendition and that made you finally agree with this character When you've missed all the other losses he's had which we've been over his videos before he says like homecoming and far from home Don't have any consequence It's insane. Absolutely fucking insane The on your definition of consequence I suppose Suffer only to endure you must be faced with a choice to harm only to help It's what they do what spider-man. Yeah, that's what spider-man didn't harm coming though. He saved vulture. Yep. Yep. He did I thought I thought What spider-man do is they have people That they love die that seems to be the most important thing to him more than anything else the suffering He loses Tony and then gets attached to this new guy who purpose built him his whole thing to trick him And then like took his most powerful weaponry making him responsible for essentially anything that he does Then he tries to kill him and his friends and he gets through all of it And ends up with you can't trick me anymore like that. Shit was great in terms of looking at it as a character thing of He's making up for for the consequences of having given away something that he really shouldn't have But he felt was the right thing because that person tricked him Now he's got the confidence to trust himself That's why he trusts his spider sense to get him through the battle because he's trusting in himself now to make decisions Yeah, but nobody nobody loved died. So it doesn't count. You're like, oh Yeah, okay It's almost one of the most refreshing things honestly about those films is how little death there is like one person dies in homecoming and shocker Like compared to the other marvel films where people die all the time. It's kind of nuts I'm like, oh, it's a meme on twitter that keeps going. But like my spider man. He has to fucking suffer. Okay With a choice to harm only to help it's what they do what spider man always And yeah, we we saw him do this with mysterio and uh vulture. So I don't know why We're saying this like he's never done it before his will do And yeah, man, there are little things I can nitpick all the live long day The idea that max dylan or kurt conners have something they want to be cured of they need fucking therapy Not a non consensual jab to the neck Wow The whole point of doing that for them is that they can stop fucking hurting people you moron. That's not about fixing them as people They need to fix that you are a dangerous monster. We have to make you a not dangerous monster I'm blown the fuck away right now So lizard is tearing people apart and electro is blowing up cities and then ties ups They're like don't try and take their power. They need therapy. You're like you You need a therapy session with lizard just sitting on a couch. What's on your mind kurt? Oh, I don't know. It's just I just want to turn the world I want to turn the world into lizards Bullshit, they're just trying to depower them. They don't as if peter's like right next stop We get them all into therapy like shut the fuck up. What the hell? Or ramies peter referring to harry's death as if it happened after a betrayal when it was really a loving sacrifice that killed Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's just summarizing events He did want to kill him and then he sacrificed he died in his arms or whatever. That's what he says yeah Oh, it sounds great the the idea that you're like What a great film specific elements of harry's sacrifice like shut the fuck up He's summarizing a relationship. He had in a very vague term in his fucking universe He took like oh, he needed to explain the entire story harry. I was born metalized. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay That's right. That's true. Yeah Killed his best friend my friend harry taught me that he chose to be the best of himself Or pizza and mj's entire relationship tom and zendaya. They have great chemistry But their love wasn't naturally established Their love wasn't natural. What does that mean? It wasn't naturally established I think they did a better job the most when they have the idea that she keeps an eye on him And then he says, uh, you yeah, you got it. You figured out. I am spider-man And then he's like, was that the only reason like that you just that's why you were watching me And she's like awkwardly like, uh You know, like that's the far from home is the beginning of like actually moving them into any kind of relationship um And so it's hard to do that because Why go beyond having a crush, right? But like they have an interest in each other and then by the time you hit this movie the relationship's actually in full Mode like it's actually going and that's when it gets cut off right at the beginning. There's even more tragic Uh, the idea there's like it didn't feel that I don't know what to tell you. Uh, I What do you want exact? I guess what feels natural Can you give me an example that we can compare it to and explain why god forbid? I Wish you had arguments instead of just statements naturally built. It wasn't about teenage idealization and then adulthood sacrifice Man All right, what do you say? What do you say to this? Other than it's just pure Poor shit and let's not get into Mary Jane Watson and her Attitudes toward dating shall we I feel like that's a very Mary Jane's a fucking cunt No real big reason to get into that on her side And they're in their friendship partnership was never as palpable as peter and gwen's or I could Okay, but peter and gwen get way more screen time and focus in the tazam film So even if you are right that's not fair because the tazam films didn't do as well with greek goblin You'd be like what? You can't compare those greek alps. I even did it. There's like, yeah, there's different focuses different stories for fuck's sake like Tom holland has to meaningfully give up is Uh, everyone knowing him his relationship with dr. Strange relationship with ned his relationship with well I was gonna say aunt may I guess I don't know how she's dead Um And we've got a lot of not to mention everyone else all the villains all the heroes It's just like yes We do not have the time To be able to flesh out his relationship with mj to the degree that other films can because that's their only focuses or One of few focuses Don't it's really unfair all the time funnily enough as far as I've seen from people praising the film Um the chemistry and relationship between zandaya and tom holland in in the film Was that it's best for the third one a lot of people said that now as far as i'm considered It's the first one where they've been properly together the other two they weren't necessarily Homecoming establishes they have like a vague interest far from home puts them together at the end Just again. Yeah, it's not yes Not an equal not static No, and no definitely not it's like an it's like a relationship developing naturally Well, I mean if if like, you know in homecoming obviously she's not like the main focus But it's pretty clear that they're like setting it up. It didn't it didn't come out of nowhere Like that was obviously where they were heading with that She's not the focus in the first one But she's around we know that she's paying attention to him and then the second one We put him in a circumstance where it's like, okay now They're actually we're like being more overt and that there's an interest here in there. Yeah, it's an actual relationship in this film On and that's kind of the problem with all of this We when he says like it wasn't built naturally and then I go it was built naturally Now what do we do? Yeah You guess you got to give me references. I need references and Just complain about fucking Ned, but there's also tons. Wait, what's wrong with Ned? Is that if and that And their connection their friendship partnership was never as palpable as peter and glens Or I could just complain about fucking Ned, but there's also tons of why why would you complain about Ned? Tell me what it is about Ned that you do not like I like Ned. So I don't know I like Ned. Yeah Welcome to what? That's a good guy. I'm I'm glad he got his moments to be a hero, you know Yeah, and uh, I think that they've done well with I'm sorry, but they've done the best actually out of the live action spider-man friendships Uh, Tom and on Ned. Yeah, well Jacob, uh Compared to the awfulness in the in the rey me ones and then the the hilariousness of tasman twos Attempt at having them be friends before turning into a villain straight away like Like is that a production line? Yeah, so I don't know I need references, but I don't think we're getting any Freak out about the live long day that I did freak out about through eyes of nostalgic joy Rami's peter and autos reunion andrew's peter silently watching holland's peter and mjb. I like how you're Talking about these things having happened, but not why they mean so much Interesting to me. It's like you're putting as the littlest amount of effort in both the criticism and the praise to be honest with you like Toby and uh, uh Auto reunion. It's like so good. It's like well why? right What's what's because that's a statement that might require some level of qualification or explanation I know that we can rely on everybody to sort of figure it out, but like isn't that your job? I don't know In love are you just an opinion giver? Is that all you do is you just give your opinions and that's just it He would tell you if you saw this right now. He'd be like, yes, of course you idiots That's like my whole thing. I should be like, yeah, but sometimes you explain your positions. Sometimes you don't makes me wonder Higher third act is an emotional roller coaster full of fan service that even the coldest of hearts will feel some warmth by witnessing Obviously, I'm mixed on the movie But for the first time I can say that I'm optimistic about because I don't even know why with a I Finally optimistic new set of storytellers can go from here. Even if I can't quite figure out what no way home Story with a new set of storytellers can go from here even if I can't quite figure out what no He so desperately wants to be spider-man. He's just like brown top brown table. Sorry Brown top Brown table has a black Way home is trying to say not on a thematic level, but on this weird meta level Are they saying acknowledging that tom was never really spider-man never really? Oh my god. What? No. Oh, fuck off Get a life. So the film was called spider-man Just a matter of uh We're watching an arc unfold. I'm sorry that you only cared about the end of it Really felt any kind of great loss consequence or great sense of wrong is wrong Keep saying it. I guess you can keep saying it Responsibility am I supposed to applaud the fact it took this long to see the fundamentals of the icon back on the big screen The fundamentals of the icon the fucking origin to the icon. I don't see it uncle Well, yes, that you kind of spider-man without a dunkle Are they really saying that we've spent more than half a decade in six film appearances watching a character that needed to lose Everything need showing him dying Showing him dying. Oh, yeah, by the way that happened But who he is it's fine. Did everyone to forget him in order for him to become the peter parker We all know. No, it's not it's not that everyone forgot him Did you just the fact that you show in clips that like show you the character and what they were going for so awkward It is awkward because they're all at odds with what he's saying. Yeah, like But they're all pulled from the films. He's shittig odd You think about these moments in all of the trilogy. You're like, yeah, this was pretty fucking good He's like They're apologizing for their mistakes. Look at that flat cinematography by the way. Look at how uncreative and flat MCU sludge right here. Look at that sludge Order for him to become the peter parker. We all know and love. Don't get me wrong. Like I said, I'm here for it I'm overjoyed to an almost disturbing degree that no way home ends in a crumbly crusty Yeah, we knew you'd love this we knew it. We already knew that because you're really superficial. I'm sorry Like it was obvious that it hit the beats that you wanted We were very invested and happy because it hit the emotional substantive beats It went throughout You managed to maintain peter parker as a character is a very much significant worry But you were like it's a crusty apartment. And there's still uncle blood on his head Yeah, we got a dead guardian Yeah more blood more dead family apartment Where the camera lingers longer where bathos is removed where we are left with nothing but melancholy Oh, I'm pretty sure he's referring to the jokes Inserity left with a peter parker who has nobody to call nobody to pass his problems off to nobody to He never has passed his Problems off who? In harm coming if anything he was Entirely unwilling to pass off his problems to other people and far from home What do you call this when he like takes on an army of drones like wow passing your problems off, buddy? Yeah Share his grief with swinging into the winter night a spider-man reborn Yeah, it's like an arc Yep How we got here was what the story was you hated it. I'm sorry, but Things don't just exist the way that they are from the get-go. They for sure fixed mcu spider-man But the it was never fucking broken You didn't like it and you're just bad at you're just bad at talking about spider-man That's just as simple as that You're bad at talking about spider-man Of that leave me kind of bewildered the acknowledgement that his character thus far was broken. No, it's No, it wasn't Tell me why There's nothing in the film that I can even pull that would indicate to me a lack of confidence or faith in what they did before It's just because he's broken because his uncle hasn't bitten it yet. Yep He's an Aunt May's lost wiz wasn't it like peter you've been shit. Now you're good. Yeah I hear by resolve you of your shittiness I must save your character stabs yourself in the heart Broke me the detachment from the ICU it broke me broke me and he'll my solid watered my crops All in these images for the good movies You guys don't know what bathos is. I don't know the specific definition, but uh, it's it's the we we've covered it many times It's uh Isn't it pathos bath? There's a whole bunch of them and they refer to like the satisfaction you get from different choices and uh Delivering like tonal things Uh, yeah, I don't know. I've never heard of bathos. So Um, oh the so bathos is an effect of anti-climax created by an unintentional lapse in mood from the sublime to the trivial or ridiculous These are not the definitions. I'm gonna remember It's a literary literary terms Theo would know them lying on the avengers brand the idea that now spider-man can swing again without the Need to have a fury a happy a tony. He was already doing that What do you mean tony who takes away a shit? So he has to do it with even less stuff now He's already sway without the blah How do you think tony found him? Strange thereby his side leaves us right back to where we started No, no a spider-man can never like the idea that a spider-man can never get helped So it's just 14 here. They happen to be independent. He's a very different person He's come so fucking far. He's learned so much like the idea that we're back to square one is so stupid A kid a broke kid a loner trying to get by on his own with a secret He must hide in order to protect those he cares for a young man who feels a like tom pollin who's willing to Whatever we're almost to the end Hopefully there's a new man. I don't know ability because bad things will always happen and they will happen because of you Will he regress again? Will why can't you just have a spider-man who has the powers who's just like no No tragedies here. I everyone's doing fine. You know spider-man, right? That's fucking. I just you know I understand what why why can't you have a spider-man who has a really fortunate life and he feels that he needs to His thankfulness for how good his life is he channels that into doing good for other people It's like I want other people to be in the fuck it. No, that wouldn't be spider-man spider-man has to fucking watch his uncle die In his arms preferably painfully the blood to wrench his clothing And then his multiverse uncles all die too The uncle bats all arrive just getting gunned down Yeah Peter but if you send me back I'll get gunned down good I will learn from this I will relish your death. I will drink your blood Be destined repeat this to relearn to need to be reborn Or was having two veterans two older brothers who have been through it all Finally enough to show this peter parker. I thought he wasn't allowed to have help We knew this would happen. I'm pretty sure we called this on a really early effort We were like Yes, he will have help from the other spider-man But I think people will forgive that because they're spider-man like spider-man other people from different series He personally took down vulture. He personally took down mysterio He did not personally take down all the villains in this film And do you know which two of the three are called the ones where he had to get help? Yeah, isn't that fucking fascinating That grief that loss is yep. There it is. Look the formula. Yep that that that It's in the synonyms Great power comes from the willingness to carry on to empathize to share There it is And again, we are shown. He just wants to watch the rimi movies on repeat. It's just pretentious horseshit. Yeah Even if that love is too often too easily Ripped oh my god away from us. What if your love isn't ripped away from you? What if you have a healthy relationship with someone? Yeah, he's just a superhero who dresses like spider-man does calls himself spider-man just saves people because he's always felt that that's important He takes care of himself He looks after his identity and he doesn't want to get anyone involved in his life Through this for the sake of they could be in trouble and height. I was like, did his uncle die? like No His uncle's actually fine He's a he's a good like age 40. He's he's athletic You know, he's He's doing okay He's like, well that sounds like shit Yes, it's over Yay That was crap That was crap It was kind of basically exactly what you would expect Yeah, I'm not surprised MCU shit, but not for the same like just just the standard Rolling out those criticisms, but then it was really good when the ones I like showed up He didn't talk that much at all. That was actually pretty substance-less honestly for like a Even by his standards, he didn't say much He mainly just wanted a rant about how I think he's just bitter that he got what he wanted But that it's still mcu spider-man and it's still used to being anti mcu spider-man And in a certain sense it almost validates everything they did up until that point. It's like, well, wait, that would mean I was completely wrong Yeah, oh no I'm much more willing to believe that's the case um And I don't think it was conscious. I think it's like just some you know, like I doubt it was like Barely talked about The meaning of like all the different things that happened in the movie. Um This is the thing when aunt may says with great power Didn't we talk about that for a while about what's being referenced here? Why is she saying it when she's saying it what it means to him? Why his responses? I know Um, like there's so much happening and he was just like, yeah, they did uncle benn's part It's like why do you see everything this way? Strong with you So I guess I don't know if we can fit brown table in can we? Yeah, we're at that awkward point always Now chat. I'm not giving it to you because I already know you're all gonna say yes All right, don't lie to me but um What what do you what do we what do you reckon folks? Um Shall we just move on to that's to chunk this chunk is coverage or I'm I'm okay to move on The only thing I will leave it. I don't want to cover this video in any other like I don't want to do another efap where we do Right, this would be it. Yeah Um, I feel like it's gonna be a lot of the same stuff, you know, like we got it Okay, well then what about the deal if we only do it if we Will pause at him making an argument the high tops already made and be like this was covered. So we'll just keep going That's we can try to be expedient. I suppose Well, just let's not if he says anything that high top said which is very likely we'll simply move on from it I guess brown table All right, give us brown table. It's the first time anyone's ever I wonder how's animates coming along Oh, there you go. Oh my god Oh my oh my gosh Oh, I I had no idea Interstellar ranger commensco teenage sushi happy happy or whatever the fuck it's called. I can't wait how exciting Spider-man no way home should just be renamed into spider-man no way no way because the movie One day managed to unite all of spider-man twitter and was able to make spider-man fan probably didn't We just watched yeah Universally happy spider-man no way because the movie was able to accomplish what I've been begging for for years A spider-man movie with genuine Yeah, there it is genuine stakes Yep, if it's not the multiverse collapsing in on reality as we know it Fuck it. It's not genuine stakes stakes. No way because as I walked out of the theater. Oh Oh He's gonna swag it. He loves it. You're so sad. It's this he's I can I totally believe you're making an anime He's gonna be fine. It's okay He's not gonna be fine. He he needs it rags. He's it He wears this to movies and oh my goodness gracious He needs it. I kept going to myself. No way. No way home fixed mcu spider-man for me No, I used one of spider-man's worst stories to do it, which is honestly very commendable And what's amazing wait? It's a bad story adapted. Well, I must make it bad No, it was adapted. Oh, it's so confusing to see is that everyone I've seen has enjoyed the ending In fact, they loved it other than some mcu fans that want to see their cinnamon roll Peter parker be happy all the time, you know God forbid Because that's a terrible thing. That's shit. First of all, who's been saying like I hated the ending Because I wanted to be happy and second of all, what is wrong with wanting your characters to be happy How can I do not make the people who want their characters to be happy the weird ones? You guys are the weird ones where you're like, I want them to suffer. That's the weird position This last Jedi bullshit everything has to be some deconstructivist Characters have to be miserable and upset. No one can be happy and You know, it was cool to see an mcu spider-man movie finally have a sad ending It's a Yeah, okay. Why do you just want misery? It comes across that way All right, it's weird. It's doubly weird when you think about him wearing the outfit to the theater and you're like, yeah This person who's costume. I'm wearing. I want her to be miserable. Finally. Sadness weird. Okay. All right One more melancholic than happy but hopeful all the same and there are multiple ways No way home alters the peter parker character and the story works We'll see about that. I'm not sure about that alters his character. I might I might concede depends how he argues it It's a massive retcon in such a smooth way that I feel the audience hasn't realized that It's not a retcon. It's fucking hell. It's not like We've seen some retcons in our time from watching media. They're saying it You see, I don't think no way home was the plan for mcu spider-man from his first appearance I don't care if it was a plan it was done well Well, it's it's complicated right because if if we made those films and then I go Yeah, actually from homecoming we had intended that um the climax of the third film in his trilogy would be losing someone incredibly important And for everything to be solidified in terms of the messaging for responsibility But the first two we're going to regard like lessons along the way and losses that were less significant Um Does that count as a plan or does it not because of all the things? You know say for example, we get to the third one. They're like, okay, we want you to put toby in it Find a way like see you couldn't have planned this and it's like well but My plan was there. It just doesn't necessarily include whether or not toby is there Or other items that get changed along the way Pretty sure this was planned in the sense of giving him the trilogy and for what it was going to mean for his character hence why myself Uh free I'd say rags as well and jay have all been talking about where this is going And how clear it is where this is going and then it went there um Seems like something that was planned as a beginner. We've been saying that I think since even um far from home was like a trailer It was like oh, we're doing this this this and we've been saying we want the college years and then even the um post college years potentially If you had told me that this was like a broad plan sure I don't do I think that it was um Like this is how they wanted to sort of get this story all wrapped up probably not no Yeah, I I'm willing to agree that it wasn't it doesn't look the way that they'd always intended from the beginning But I don't know that they'd had no this comes across as a trilogy with a plan compared to someone like star wars Realized that it happened You see I don't think no way home was the plan for mcu spider-man from his first appearance in civil war And I think people should stop acting like it is I think disney marlo are people acting like Like like what do you mean in this way or? I do I'd agree. I don't think it was planned from civil war because he's in it for like fucking two minutes I he's just introduced but when they built up homecoming they were probably like how do we I don't Also, what does it matter at that point because I'm starting to think like I don't think civil war was planned when they made iron man, it's like okay Oh, yeah, I mean plans are a potential means to an end and you don't need a plan They're often very very very helpful and a lot of people just need them But you can you don't need a plan was spider-man three planned when they made spider-man one probably not But and now I need to know why this is a flaw because I'm confused also high fringy Yeah, I will roll this back so that you can hear it and get outraged Is a massive red con in such a smooth way that I feel the audience hasn't realized that it happened You see, I don't think only home was the plan for mcu spider-man from his first appearance in civil war And I think people should stop acting like it is. I think disney marvel and sony took a cow I feel like more people are acting like it isn't than it is. Absolutely. That's how I feel I would never cite civil war was where they planned everything up to no way home I'd be like no, I can believe I doubt it was around where they were like, right What's the broad story going to be across his films? Yeah, you can have the broad story figured out without knowing exactly like which The problem is it's going to be really difficult to do that when you're part of the mcu and there's a lot of stuff That's just out of your control By the way, especially in a post star war sequel world I can totally believe that they're going to be a bit more particular about all right, so like actual general Idea that we're going for yeah, like let's at least know broadly where we want to end up Where did homecoming come out? 2017 Yeah, so Well, yeah, but the ending and The the course corrections that could possibly be done They were doing it right to begin with they didn't learn from the shittiness of the sequels, but uh, I'm sure many will You're planning Yeah Calculated risk and it paid off fully and I'm very excited to talk about it. But first let's talk about today's sponsor Oh All right, are you old enough to drink? 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I don't think he did this video wouldn't have been possible without alcohol No way home is really interesting I've had a ton of discussions with fellow youtube creators on what it all means looking back on civil war It seems like uncle ben has existed and the first fucking thing Uh I want to beat uncle ben like a fucking ben Kid yotter at this point You fucking I want to see him dying war that events occurred that instilled a responsibility on peter But in the film no way home It seems like he hears with great power becomes great responsibility for the first time even though he says and I quote I know he seems to Well, that's even more meaningful than i'm hearing it is him I'm more interested in what point he wants to make regarding this I don't know if it's the first or last whatever time he's heard the first time he's heard it or not um The the point can be made in many ways as is done when we first meet him Response would in a way that means he understands what what says Thomas then touched on two of the biggest scenes in spider-man no way home where the three peter parkers meet for the first time on the rooftop of the school and the heartbreaking scene where may is killed As the story started to develop and as we got to the scene with may we realized This is going to be peter's uncle ben and the wounds are going to come out For the scene on the rooftop where the three peter's met we felt pretty strongly that we need something to really finally crystallize it For these three guys that they are the same that they are brothers And they are bound in a cosmic way by something having them share those words in a common In common seemed like the thing to do Okay, yep. Yeah, that'll lines up What may is telling him it's not like he's actually heard the line before Plus, I think it was never john watson's intention to have the line be said by uncle ben Hell happy says it in a throwaway line in a deleted scene from homecoming so Go to the films writer spider-man homecoming originally housed the series most famous line john francis daily and jonathan goldstein opened up To yahoo movies about the changes they made to the film script and the pair admitted one unlikely character nodded to the iconic spider-man quote At the end when happy is in the boys room in school We had him say oh, yeah, tony wanted me to tell you with great power comes something I forgot goldstein said before adding it was a little too meta. Yes. That's probably a good decision. Yeah, I think I was a good decision Yeah, right of that Oh, imagine all the whinging they that we would have heard people would have hated it Well, personally, personally, I wouldn't have liked it. They don't need it. I wouldn't have liked it either. Yeah Yeah, good good good choice. Could you imagine? Oh, never been very mad. Yeah almost makes it worth it Well, how I take away Peter and spider-man in general in no way home Is your home trilogy is his origin story? His origin journey is finally completed. Oh, but very Literally became spider-man at the end of home come shut. That's okay But so We're gonna have to get to the point then of talking about what does it mean to be a spider-man? And what does it mean when you stop growing? Well, yeah Yeah, the answer is generally dead uncles and a phrase was toby. It's like it's like it's a magic spell The blood of an uncle the spet the incantation phrase and you have oof. You are now spider-man. I like his am Let's make this a little bit more complicated for like high table. Fuck Whatever the it's like did He become spider-man in spider-man one ramy two or three and if it was one did he learn nothing in two and three And if yeah, basically, there is no way to answer this that you can then argue against home like the trilogy here Well, so I think the next step for the people who are listening who very much fucking hate our takes on spider-man would be He learned different things in spider-man one two and three while I would argue He learned with great power comes great responsibility and all three of them just variations in different ways Which is what I'm pretty sure it's not that easy. It's not that simple Well, there's loads that comes with it like for example, let's just be honest the last you teach it kids Be good. It's like, okay. Now. We're gonna have to unpack that There's a lot with it. What is great power comes with? Great responsibility mean in the context of a world where there are a bunch of other heroes Does that mean that you need to help all the time and like try and basically like and it can be you become misguided Like I want to be a hero and I want people to know I'm a hero Where does great power and great responsibility factor into what I need to know about that? And then when I get really shaken up and I'm freaked out and I think I'm not competent enough What does that mean to me this phrase? Yeah, and what does it mean now when I'm dealing with people who you know, I have the capacity to save them But then it cost me something significant It's a good lesson, but different circumstances might reveal blind spots That you need to account for homecoming and far from home is about a far from home He thought he was taking great responsibility by providing the glasses to uh, hysteria. Yeah Let the fuck up shut up. Okay The messy plot of far from home indicates that he's still learning to be spider-man I feel like it's been more about becoming a hero and calling himself spider-man Then him actually becoming the spider-man we know and love. He doesn't really really what no, I'm not sure So he has to I swear it's just like we have to hey has to be toby maguire He has to be injure garfield. That's us the vibe. I get All the time which is weird because they always link it is retroactive adoration for the storytelling choices of the tazam films when they garbage Is a really bad the messy plot of far from home indicates that he's still learning to be spider-man I feel like it's been more about becoming a hero and calling himself spider-man Then him actually becoming the spider-man we know and love. He doesn't really fully Comprehend what being spider-man means and by the end of because he is spider-man. He's the only spider-man in his world What he is determines what spider-man means in that universe Like whatever he is at the time because he is spider-man like it's such a bizarre meta thing Like do you see peter in this universe doesn't understand what it means to be spider-man How did he came through a portal and said that he'd be like, what do you mean? What are you talking about? Well, he does because you know, he literally loses everyone he loves in this movie and I fucking love that I'm sure you do Yeah Whereas I'm like, I think that's really tragic and I feel really bad for him that that had to happen And you know the part of me wishes there's another way for his sake, but I mean I'll make sense It all slots together. It all wraps up an arc. It all When all of his family members are getting executed and peter's just being beaten over and over again brown table has the people glad face Yeah Yeah, it's like Listen, listen, listen whenever peter parker is sad. I am happy. Let me bask in his misery. Jesus christ Fucking psychopath Is director that but yeah, he's Honestly is the best policy. Okay, anyway peter and the mcu gets his powers and his original message off screen Surely it'll be covered in the freshman year animated series But his full journey into becoming the traditional spider-man has come to a close agreed Dot dot dot Another cue for me realizing this movie was meant to close spider-man's origin story was peter following as goblin calls it Aunt may's moral mission. He has to save these villains, right? But it's not something that really comes from him It's something may teaches him at peter's lowest point in the film He understandably doesn't give a shit about the villains anymore and doesn't care if they die And spider-man shouldn't be like this spider-man should care That's the point of the story by the way. I'm not saying this is a bad thing and this is where the spider-man show up dude toby Andrew my biggest thought wasn't oh my god. I'm gonna come all over my seat. What will I? My law first I just agree with right now I'm just okay. Okay I do my biggest thought was dude if this movie ruins them and writes them all out of character I will hate this movie for the rest of my life Thankfully seeing them on screen is absolute magic like its villains the movie handles the characters to perfection Ooh, he thinks they were handled to perfection talk to high top about lizard Right. Yeah, and tell him how to do a fucking ad Yeah, well, can we know brown tables got the best of the three so far easily Easily not even close Good job brown table little crown Good job Except for the lizard table. Oh, no And we're poking your crown. We're taking it back. You can still have the crown, but we were just wrong He thought elizabeth. It's a burger king crown that you get. It's one of those paper wins. It's not yeah So no crown table is a happy meal kind of guy Did he at least say the reason except for the lizard. I hate what they did to my boy So no way home. No, we're just moving on I I do not know what the problem is for lizard. I don't understand what happened chat, can you help out what's what's the big fuck up they did with lizard's character Could have actually worked without the spider-man, but thankfully it includes them and makes them necessary to the story Sure, it's fanservice Guess I'll throw that on screen. Yeah It's not just brown table though But it isn't just fluff These are real people with real events that have happened to them way prior to no way home and the film treats these events with sincerity These spider-man have gone through a sincerity Sincerity him and high top have been talking Tom peter is going through and they instill in him their wisdom It's this funny but endearing visual of seeing peter parker lift himself back up and I think that's brilliant So you have the og's they talk to tom about their failures their struggles He's talking about the movie. It's crazy The actual writing the events that happened They've lost people and in their anger in their lust for writing what's been wronged. They lost themselves Andrew is still going through the works having become a more violent spider-man Meanwhile, toby has been able to get through his dark side successfully Both know what it means to want to kill to want revenge It's about telling tom peter that wanting to kill green goblin is valid But killing him is wrong with great power. There must also come great responsibility. And so with this passing This is pretty much this is fine I'm sorry. There's just nothing for me to complain about but uh There's also nothing for me to really I mean it could be more detailed, but it's the point is clear I think in the spider-man helping tom come back to his senses Traditional spider-man takes his first steps. It's an interesting take on the origin story But mcu spider-man No, we never have never will But fine an interesting take on the origin story But mcu spider-man has such a wildly different take on the character that i'm okay with how this bit was handled Don't doubt it's wildly different compared to what we understand of you spider-man I've seen plenty of people say that he's perfectly in line, but uh Fine Seeing tom peter getting along with the other spider-man and them actually liking each other was a great change of pace I feel like usually if people would write this kind of thing where alternate versions of the same character met up They'd all dislike each other or not particularly like each other. I'm glad they didn't do that This isn't a good citation though because uh, this is when the loki staff is fucking with everybody Not just they hate each other arbitrarily Um, I'm like the writer's POV or something. It's that they've got actual Influence on them, but I I agree with him broadly that it was nice to see them just chill out and be friendly and stuff Together by the end of the story or something like that kind of like the avengers and thankfully that's not the case here The spider-man have this sibling dynamic that absolutely works and it's so fun to see them heading off to defeat and cure their villains Was honestly really wholesome and I quite enjoyed that they weren't going off to just beat their asses and call it a day It's a good spider-man story a classic spider-man conundrum, right? And so we reach the finale the spider-man get their moments and tom peter almost kills the green goblin before being stopped by himself Well tobey peter, but you get what I mean and it's an interesting way of seeing it Quite possibly the purest spider-man one who's been at it for so long now older and wiser One who's been where tom is now. It is funny to me to refer to him as the purest spider-man Like they really do see him on like a throne when it comes to spider-man content Stopping him before he does something he regrets It's as if what spider-man is meant to be is physically stopping tom from killing the goblin This is also great for tobey's ark his ark in this film is about curing the goblin and letting him live So that's cool And all this allows tom peter to continue his journey towards becoming the spider-man We know he's meant to be by the way seeing tom actually angry and sticking a pumpkin bomb in goblin's glider His face showing that he's fully willing to kill him now. That is spider-man. It's great to see the Is that spider-man? I had no fucking clue. That's how he was ending that sentence. I thought he was gonna talk about That's the question. What is spider-man? I threw some talk about how great the performance was or how he felt like that was like a peak engagement But saying like that is peak spider-man. It's like oh Uh, I don't even know what to say to that I don't either like it's all what is spider-man to these people. It's just like That uncle's magic words and arms and gliders His chat seemed to be pretty bewildered about it too. I I don't know Okay, the angry side of peter parker the side of him that's just full of rage and regret It's his suppressing of that side of him that makes peter parker story is so enjoyable too And afterwards enemies of spider-man that know his identity are coming through and dr Strange can't stop them from coming into their dimension and I didn't think they'd go to this extreme But peter decides to have the world forget his whole ass existence And so now nobody knows peter's spider-man because peter doesn't exist and to me This is a banger idea because like in the comics right and the comics peter unmasks himself to the world And it fucks up his life to the point that aunt may gets capped. Oh time isn't gonna kill this lady this bullet Well, bang out of here dude. So peter Yo, you're so excited We have we have an image of aunt may's crying as she's been shot and peter's screaming no It's just like woman Thank fuck someone tight Makes a deal with the literal devil to save aunt may's life But well, it costs him his marriage and by that I don't mean time stays the same and his marriage is just destroyed No, this also makes literal years of spider-man stories null and void It sends him back to when he was way younger and harry osborne was still alive, etc It was a lot the issue here isn't that peter lost because peter losing is fundamental to a spider-man story I just why qualify that statement. I just eat a losing is fundamental You can't have a happy successful spider-man who has no tragedies in his life Because even temporarily like what movies were that's you you fucked it. No I mean toby maguire's Spider-man didn't like face a tragedy in this film. No way home. He was just helping out another spider-man I guess you could say he got stabbed He's been scared before they what was his personal tragedy in two Uh I guess Or the I guess that he just decided to choose one life or the other all that stuff. I don't I'm I'm not entirely sure. Maybe the the uncle uncle duncle dad uncle is is counters the whole series. Yeah It's that the character for spider-man has a lost so many years of stories because it's essentially a retcon No character remembers anything. It's like they never happened with no way home It's a similar idea peter loses everyone forgets him, but spider-man still exists His stories live on not only through the public but through peter and peter himself knows everything He's gone through and as he's the main character This isn't a regression for the spider-man character if anything It's a push forward because now he doesn't have all this baggage right now. He can be the purest spider-man purest Wow, you you were on the right track, but then you said that and it's like, uh, you've tainted a little bit It's funny how we like that's so clearly happened. We're all like running his code. It's all going pretty well Then he said the word cured all of us went Like the codes fuck. What? Yeah, it's just like blue screen It's one of those things where you know what you mean by that when you say it But you need to understand other people when they hear you say that they could come away with many interpretations And they might just be confused It's an odd thing to say. Yeah, it's not that it's definitively invalid. I want to know what he means by purest Can you need from the shackles of tony stark taking freed from the shackles of tony stock the fuck does that mean? He was imprisoned by him emotionally or some shit. I don't know. I he must be talking about the meta He doesn't want iron man having to do with spider man. That's gotta be it right now He can be the purest spider man He can be freed from the shackles of tony stark taking his aunt may's message with him And now finally understanding that he asked the shackles of tony stark I don't get a guy who took stuff away from him Identity is secret to protect the ones he loves look seeing the ending unfold was actual bliss I guess the ending someone and I actually cheered in the theater because I got it so on point I actually got the dialogue extremely close to the final result actually. I'm here because I'm here because I I've actually been meaning to try the new pumpkin spice flavor I've never This is cringe. I've never had that. Okay, so he loves spider man This is right. So he he actually like did an animation where he predicted like very close to what the ending was Apparently. Oh, is that what's happening? Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. I because I remember a thing where it was like a thing There was an animator like this where is he was wanting to kill goblin and then Toby's like no, I don't do it Um, I just this feels like way more. Wow. That's actually really close except obviously. Yeah, that's pretty Yeah, I prefer the dialogue in the movie, but Yeah And I love the coffee shop scene It's one of my favorite scenes in the movie because Peter struggles. He can see what he wants. Yes. I know he struggles. He loved that shit Oh, yeah, I bet it hurt. I bet it's pain too That's peak spider man, and I'm so happy that this is the ending they chose I've seen people on twitter say stuff like hey, don't say that no way home fixed mcu spider To be fair, by the way, because I was just thinking about it It's like pretty sure we've all talked extensively on eFab about how erasing everyone's memory of him is something they could do Um and the doctor strange is always going to be an option for that and then as soon as the trailers came I was like, hmm, we could definitely have that as a potential now I've seen people on twitter say stuff like hey, don't say that no way home fixed mcu spider man Because this was the plan all along. It wasn't now that you could have a you could have a plan but still require fixing What if john was told you it was and you can also have a plan But like broad strokes. We know this. Yep Just say like if he's about to say something like oh, you know, it couldn't have been the plan because it couldn't have accounted for Andrew Garfield being in it or something. I should be like that's not that's not the point It's already been said that there was an alternate ending where peter allows his identity to remain public We all know kevin feige thought yeah, it's not having an option on the table does not mean that you didn't plan anything Yeah, that's stupid. We literally all know what a plan b is I was about to say like actually that's more indicative of a plan that you have two endings That you have a plan b the fact that there was a plan b means there was a plan a yeah Thought secret identity were overplayed into pessimists Never have secret identities in the mcu ever and we all know that tom haulen fought for some of the ending of no way home To be what it ended up being plus no way home. Yeah, but he's been there the whole time It might have been a plan that he and john have talked about many times that doesn't make it not a plan Was at one point a craven story. So how would a story like that even have a mold? That's also a plan Just because you know, what do you know what that word means? I just want to understand why he's saying these as if their references to how there isn't a plan References to how there isn't a plan for star wars is ryan johnson saying he had no notes Daisy Ridley saying there were notes. He just didn't read them And then collin travaro having like all these plans for rise of skywalker as if he was going to do it That are like Starkly different than anything we can recognize from how the sequels look right now Then i'm pretty sure jj and collin wanted to have luke be a hero not be the disastrous mess Like these are all pretty strong evidence of how there's absolutely no fucking sense of a plan going on um Because what we got isn't like alien compared to what apparently was planned So there was no plan actually to do anything. Well, that's what they said explicitly that there was no plan Meanwhile, if craven were in the film and he was the villain you can still keep all of the beats And if you're like, well, no, we're gonna multi-verse like dude, we're not like that Those are just the plot details. We can move everything around Multiversal collapse and the erasure of an identity I don't know all I know is that this was not the planned end game for the spider-man characters for Wait, sorry Did he actually just cite the multiverse an example of how it can't have been planned because we've always had Doctor Strange the story like that even have a multiversal collapse and the erasure of yeah, doctor strange could be in the craven story Have that but it could yeah Well, but he's not even right one of cravings from a different universe We could always have a multiverse because doctor strange. Yeah an identity I don't know all I know is that this was not the planned end game for the spider-man characters first trilogy But i'm happy it is because instead of being iron man's successor instead of being a part of the avengers Or the young avengers which we've decided a terrible things. We can't have either of those things or whatever He's back to being what the character is supposed supposed to be supposed to be Should be supposed to be If he's anything else, it's wrong. He has to be this thing Don't fuck it up. Especially when a character is essentially a set of superpowers Yeah To be a man that is The irony being that this change is that a significant from even tasm to ramy, but we're apparently both of them are correct Broke working hard in both his job and education and regardless of his emotional state He has to go swing out into the city of spider-man to protect people and make sure innocents don't go through losses similar to the man Can you guys think of a movie where regardless of his emotional state? He will go out there and he will save people Is there any one of the spider-man movies where that gets broken explicitly meters away from him? No, none come to mind. No, well, you know what I'll say is none come to mind, but I know it wouldn't be the ramy ones Oh The ending of no way home reminded me of my favorite the first 30 minutes I keep going on about this every time I bring spider-man 2 up, but listen spider-man 2 is amazing Even when peter isn't spider-man the dude is just going even when peter isn't spider-man You would heart sorry you fucking want it to be Ah Going through it and we see his life and how shitty it is he goes to his apartment and just wallows He's a freaking superhero, but he's a person just like us. This isn't a peter parker who knows a billionaire Who well why can't a person have not tragedies? There are most people probably You can't be a person if you know a billionaire most people just don't have tragedies Like that. It's just not typical It's weird that he thinks you have to have these tragedies to like be a person You know a billionaire you're no longer a person He actually cites knowing a billionaire as like evidence of his lack of humanity how shitty it is He goes to his apartment and just wallows. He's a freaking superhero, but he's a person just like us This isn't a peter parker who knows a billionaire who has made a suit with fancy stark technology Seriously, he look at the the way the sentence structure is made like he is a person He's not someone who knows a billionaire. He's not someone who has technology. It's like a fucking you say Okay, your thing No, this is you're a youtuber Like you're not a person. No, it's rags. It's nearly over. All right. We only got Oh, wow. Yeah, we come through this one pretty fast Who struggles with money someone who has a relationship problem Someone who has uneasy friendships and someone who has responsibilities that have to be taken care of regardless of personal dilemmas And I wanted some table thinks the human experience is misery Pure undelated misery It's almost like spider-man's more than that That for the first 30 minutes of no way home But we just got a speeder run of peter's life with his identity revealed and that's okay. It was fun, but I'm so happy That's okay because it was fun He sounded like he was trying to compensate for criticizing it, but I didn't spot the criticism What was the criticism that it was a speed run a speed run of his life. It was too fast It was a montage when it shouldn't have been or it's hard to tell the motivation for what's gonna become the rest of the film Like we didn't spend time on the access what this story's about Like we got the montage. Yeah of things being shit Got it at the end peter not being able to spend time with his friends and leaving them be also Sorry, do we just glad that this film became cinema at the end? Good god It wasn't that it was I didn't even notice that Marty Scorsese. It's so impressed with the ending so happy We at least got it at the end peter not being able to spend time with his friends and leaving them be peter visiting may's grave and I'm so miserable Yes He would be in with a baseball bat over and over again just feeling great every time Oh, no one will even know the sacrifice he made Oh, yeah, and then peter moving into his new apartment ready to take on the world is spider-man I literally exploded in the theater like I genuinely was Literally You did not I literally exploded Can we stop please literally exploded you didn't look let me inform you guys sometimes literally can mean not literally Okay No, fuck that He had a cosmic cooming I will drag this civilization kicking and screaming out of barbarism if I have to I swear to god The spider-man I literally exploded in the theater like I genuinely was in awe. I had my hand over my mouth I was flabbergasted. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe this was Were you literally flabbergasted? I was in shock. I couldn't believe they pulled off what I had wanted for so long It feels like they actually listened to this part of the fan base that was upset with far from home You fuckers just had no patience. That's all it is Couldn't wait couldn't couldn't watch how he got built up So he just complained until you finally got the ending of the story, but I'm still glad you're happy I suppose And the overall direction with the character. Yeah, once peter opened that door and we got a look at his messed up room I was smiling I live in squalor you piece of shit. I love it He's just throwing crap into his room Like just just poo you get fired it's worse. I hope it burns down and then you live in it some more More suffering. Spider cancer He looks out Fendo mask in hand. He's made a new suit and it looks classic The logo is based off the spider-man he encountered with a spin of his own and all of this Is probably one of if not my favorite ending to a spider-man movie ever because you know, it feels like an invitation If not my favorite ending Yeah, human endings, right? What you have to do endings because it can't be one of your favorite ending like that's the problem with that one Well, you know what we complicated, but it's it's the strongest script probably out of the three I think it's certainly not movie bobs World This script is yeah, because it has less of the because the problem with hind tops is I am getting real sick of that Formulaic just have a list of like three or four things and just keep saying I'm in a very dramatic voice I guess is what I mean This feels way more authentic to me despite the fact that the whole point of the shtick with high top is to be like Look at how authentic in my feelings. I am but like I don't feel like I'm being bullshitted here You know, I completely agree with you. Uh, this is comes across as a fucking video That's just being straightforward high top sounded like it was purpose built to make you emotionally invested Yeah Of his own and all of this is probably one of if not my favorite ending to a spider-man movie ever Because you know, it feels like an invitation to a world of movies I've been wanting to go back to since 2014 when the amazing That spider-man movie world Golly golly golly Using spider-man 2 dropped now. Look. I'm not saying the movie is perfect and it's sloppy But that tone that peter parker spider-man dichotomy and lifestyle That's peak and sure homecoming at similar vibes, but it felt very innocent very chill and it felt very avengersy What the What does that mean? I yeah, I'm just Sitting here wondering what these things mean if that makes sense. So no No, it doesn't While I love that movie. It's not the same feeling to me personally. What that doesn't help He was already that I'm just Yeah, don't get your panties in a bunch and you got your panties in a bunch of a far from home How come anyone else can't complain? Yeah, we can panty our bunches just as much as you can Bunch my pants as much as I want when you don't make any sense. Okay These panties were made for bunching and that's just what we'll do So with a magical flick of the wrist Dr. Strange helped peter change spider-man's destiny reverting the status quo to a pre mcu spider-man And I have never been happier. I mean only in the sense of who knows him He's he needs all of his mcu experiences for it to be very meaningful You can't just it's not a reset. It's not back to square one It's everything that he's learned with no one there to acknowledge that It does sure spider-man's been with the avengers. No one knows who he is or how young he is Yeah, I'm so so happy. I just hope sony and disney marvel take advantage of the situation and keep peter on his own To me, that's where he thrives See it like on his own. We agree I seriously wonder if you believe this in 2016 though. I wonder. I really do like if you when you heard that He was coming into the mcu. You were like, fuck Dude, I guarantee you when high top was sorry high table. That's what I'm gonna call them when they watched spider-man work with iron man and dr. Strange to Unstar Lord to defeat Thanos. They weren't like he's not thriving. He is not I doubt it. Not thriving at all. Oof I hope he has more street level situations to deal with in his college trilogy Which is 100 happening by the way. Sorry tom sony's got your ass and you're gonna be spider I don't know They got your ass is like no, he's got their ass. He gets to decide now at his age Yeah, you also you understand that Yeah, like I hope someone gets my ass in the way that they're gonna give me millions and millions of dollars Make me a famous celebrity and you've got my showcase my talents to the world and portray a beloved character I cannot wait for you. I mean, I certainly hope you do not get my ass I don't know But if they make good movies and they're under tom's as I said, he's partly culpable for the banger ending of the movie Then partly Hey, thanks so much for watching the video. This is my last video, uh ever For 2021 nice in 2022. Hopefully there's just as much if not more content from the brown table channel And make sure to check out interstellar ranger commenced and animated series. I'm making Please. Yes. What is it out? When is it out? What's that in april right april? Yeah Oh, perfect. 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Yeah, yeah, send me loads of my That's the end All right, who's next that's it rag stuff. That's all right. Okay. That's it. All right. We did it done Alrighty well So, uh, in conclusion guys think of spider-man no way home. They want spider-man to suffer Suffer suffer suffer suffer It's gotten to the point of being a little bit cartoonish. Um, I don't know what else to say little evil. I guess it's kind of weird Such a strange environment where I had to talk about these movies sometimes Y'all feeling like Feeling any different on no way home after watching them three videos Oh, it's terrible. I gotta say I feel unconvinced. I feel exactly the same as I felt I don't know what I've learned Other than high top is very grudgingly admitting he enjoyed it But he doesn't like to have to admit that I'm sorry for him because he's kind of gotten the beats that he wants Uh brown table seems to be more excited because at least he liked I'm coming And then movie bob. What even was movie bob saying in his video? Did anyone remember? Um Yeah, hey, it's just studio stuff. Um studio seven out of ten was good All right. Yeah, I feel like that's a summary bruh his was studio studio seven out of ten and then uh high tops was Uh mc schlock, but then ray mean and tazen I and I like that part, but yeah And then brown tables was like, yeah, I like because suffering. Yes I love it suffering very much pros I think that summarizes it well, uh, that that concludes That that the the video reaction of spider-man trilogy. Yeah. And so now we can just move on, right? Yes, uh Yes, yes, uh, I don't think we'll be doing another one for no way home anytime soon Unless someone releases a particularly hilarious video. I don't know if they will I thought To be honest the brown the the high top one was pretty much exactly as Bad as I would expect a bad high top video no way home to be it was pretty much all of like I probably could have written that With what I know about him um As for brown he is indistinguishable from his own parody Yeah, um, it is quite amusing to think about regardless Uh, we can get we can get on with the soup chats. I suppose. Yay Uh If you can get this screen to capture Well, I'll just reboot dolphins if that doesn't While I'm doing that, I'll just read the first one which is awaken my masters I'm up Um the joe pera show is hilarious. It's in hbo max The joe pera No I'm not familiar with that. No There it is uh Lord long bone of mueslington abbey Have you given any more thought to a kong fap when there's less going on it'd be a movie fap for the ages P. S. Hello waggly waggly walk squitches for the good boy Oh, thank you very much Yeah, and I will hold a kong fap of the long kong One day Together Um rlm's video and matrix four was very very strange Strangers always it was um I don't think you said you didn't even finish it, right? I got like five minutes in and i'm like no. No, this is stupid It got real weird real fast. Um, it felt like one of the got real weird They like had no fucking clue what the general conversation about that movie was Only gone from what they both individually felt which It was weird watching it because they both had completely different perspectives and basically only talked about their own perspectives They barely like talked with each other And uh, both of them came across as fucking nuts a little bit. Um Yeah, very very strange. That's the worst is top notch Great. Yes Half of the bag is a bit Uh New year new dumb essays to watch well, I mean we're off to a good start right three already. Yeah, we are yeah We got our own our own little starting off the year with our own little spider-man trilogy Which pokemon do you think is the cutest and would you have as a pet spiel spoink and gibble? He's a pokemon I don't know what they look like spiel. Well, let's uh, let's take a look here spiel. Can you spell it? um s eal a yeah sph eal And the other one is sploink spoink All right, let me Copy and i'll paste that there that's spiel and then we have spoink There we have a spoink That that is That is spoink And the other one is gibble Gibble Uh-huh. I'm going with spiel. Oh spiel I think i'm you haven't even seen gibble yet. Uh rags. I mean it's gonna be tough Like what is what does gibble look like hold on? Oh shit actually, uh, it's the first one spiel Oh Now I see what he looks like All right, sure. I mean No, okay Here this is the good skibble. Yes feel obviously Yeah, what do you think skip? Hmm Everyone's going for spiel Some will go for spoink. Uh, it's spoink. I'm okay with that It's spoink. It's spoink Um, there is a bird shoebill Where it's gimmick is it sounds like a machine gun looks like a dinosaur and is really gentle It sounds like a machine gun Yeah Also fucking tall they're like five feet neat Uh dk64 What was that? I'm sick of seeing cat ears and halo Like god damn those are like I should not be a sentence that's ever uttered. I was gonna say I was like no, I know that's a strange thing You just keep seeing them. It's really annoying. It's like Things are only ever gonna get worse Just in general and the cat ears are evidence of that Yeah a little bit Hi all especially rags Hello Hi All right, you got two out of four. Not bad Any mega man fans in the call Uh and which mega man sub series of y'all played i'm partial to the battle network games myself I've played very little mega man. I'm afraid So enjoy I played like one on the gameboy advance and it was all right It was like when we play as the I think zero is his name Mm-hmm Um people like mega man zero one I think Yeah, I uh I'm mega man unlimited is my might be the one I played before but uh Not played much mega man in general. I'm pretty sure it's a classic game series for a good reason uh Dk64 isn't that bad at all? I Can't remember who said it was was it that's bullshit. It was that's yeah I'm played it really so I do not know Thoughts on rlm saying that matrix four is like tlj overheated by a lot of people Oh, sorry just overheated by a lot of people. Yeah, they say he said that. Yeah, it's overheated by a lot of people and Overloved by a lot of people is what he said Yeah, he said he said yeah a lot of people are gonna hate it more than it deserves and a lot of people will love it More than it deserves. Yeah, which is Well, here's the thing tlj was shit So that automatically just does I mean that's I guess it's technically true for everything But in the way that he means it um It's gotta be awkward for him because he came out and kind of in favor of tlj and their their coverage But it's since been just considered what a fucking disaster the destroyed star wars. So It's like well, that's over hate. I just be like, oh, yeah What's the correct amount of hate and is it more or less than the prequels because I'm guessing he'd say more Which is or less rather. Yeah um Yeah, I don't know What they're thinking about uh name your starter pokemon no nostalgia allowed Andrew we just Name your starter pokemon is in like choose one of pokemon to be our starters or what would we name one? Or what would your starter be? Because if it was what what one I choose and no nostalgia allowed is like I might I guess I'm going with the most powerful Where am I I don't know I guess I I've played them. I don't know if I have any nostalgia I guess it's charmander. I guess if we're going for nostalgia, but I don't have like any real connection to him So I'd pick bulbous or I mean, I would pick bulbous or not just because of the fact that I picked him A lot when I was younger and stuff, but also because I wouldn't mind having a guy around water I'd worry a lot about a guy with fire His tail is on fire, you know, it's like Yeah, I feel it's like a liability I just squirtle Yeah, I really like squirtle He's a cool boy Uh, do you know that during the spider sense scene in happy's place you could slightly hear the goblin laugh neat detail? Really? I didn't notice that that's cool. Look out for that. Nice time to watch that because I didn't think they were uh Movie bob because I've always wanted to see a hitler speech live. Oh my Nice video. He was very very, you know normie in this one Hmm. OBS just said the stream went down for about a split second Oh Yes, do we have to start with the three videos over again? Yes, let's do it again just to make sure that you know, just to make sure that they all got through Mm-hmm Today's animal of the day is the Damascus goat All right. Now that is an animal. Wow Man, holy crap Put a picture. Yeah, all right. There you go Wow God damn, hold on. Um, I don't know if you Hmm No, no, that's just it's it's pretty crazy looking critter Looks like it could be in star wars as a background here. It looks like a star wars preacher. Yeah Are those its nuts? That's real what the fuck The Damascus goat look at him. It looks like something straight out of star wars What a weird face these things have. Yeah All right Death showed Betty almost as much respect as teddy rough ride Roosevelt though with teddy it was more so out of fear You don't think death feared Betty either. I mean it was well, I mean It's possible Maybe she had some plans and Death feared Betty And bet he did become death. Oh, yeah Maybe that's like there was arrangement. He's she's like, all right, I'll die, but I'll die finally, but Uh, you have to let me uh be the grim reaper and he's like, yeah, sure. That's fine on Saturdays I'm thinking about doing something else. Anyway, all that death, you know Just gets old um I'd be very invested in a Hawkeye e-fap. The show has good character work But a bad plot with tizmy action that might make for good discussion. Hi rax off Hello What was that I disagree with that. I think some of the characters are not lame in Hawkeye I'm not way. Oh my goodness grace fight fight fight What fight is that? Yeah, I was gonna say who you talking to, right? Oh, I don't the the person in the comment They're not here though You doctor skipper in the comments. Yeah I guess that the biggest controversy so far with Hawkeye has been uh wilson fisk at the end of it Yes, which I've heard many people are unhappy with Are you unhappy with it? Yeah Did you want to see the big man beat up the girl? misogynist Yes, I was looking forward to yeah, I wanted to see misery Like many of the people in the world. Um So character damage to wilson fisk then or Um, I'll take he acts kind of out of character in comparison to daredevil But it's weird though because I don't know if it's There there aren't like flat out about it. It's if it's the same wilson fisk or not So it's just weird Yeah, I don't know how to explain. Have you also seen daredevil? Yes. Yeah Yeah, I get you that that seems to be the thing nobody knows what or not they're Like daredevil is canon in the mcu Yeah, it's like because In daredevil itself, right like the setup of wilson fisk is super Like they make him intimidating like somebody kills himself to like just because he names him Or a lot in hawkeye. He have the something called like the track suit mafia. It's just very uh Mediocre in comparison. Yeah, you'd have to watch it then you could Oh, it's it's yeah, it's water Well, yeah, there may be a possibility that we're gonna check it out. Um But like I don't know about if I've coverage no guarantees on that one um We shall see starting off 2022 with Roberto. I'm not sure if this is gonna be good or a bad omen Well, think of it as getting it out of the way, right? Got robert done Even though I don't feel like we got a true robert experience from that video And maybe there'll be more of him to come To you know, just I just don't feel like it was a genuine Movie experience from from that's all I think it's a good omen that we got through it so quickly Um Movie bar because oh wait. Yeah, I've read that one. Um I know a tlj fan who once said people didn't understand the milk drinking scene. Sometimes I reflect on that and wonder What is it to understand about that scene? I don't know Maybe it was saying a lot more than I'd ever realized. I don't know Ah disney star wars your consistency for a person slash faction not knowing which way is up and using up as an advantage is Gold happy new year long man doggo bring gold skipper and to all the masses Thank you. Yo, thank you The wave one pole and uh, yeah, that's in reference to boba fat Go anybody in chat is curious which has been released Go watch that after this stream. It's gonna be great And we will hopefully be getting those out Uh weekly Till the show is done. Yeah, and we will talk about how amazing it was Uh, have you guys seen his dark materials? No I'm assuming rags hasn't I don't know skip our ass I've heard of it though. Um, I don't know but I don't even know if it's a good. I know it's about polar bears That's it. We're not like that polar bears, but it's got polar bears in it Well, there's a big difference to those things brings. I feel like you should have clarified that much too Yeah, well, I I clarified it as soon as I could Faster next time Okay The speed of sound got places to go got a follow the Is it rainbow? Yeah, I don't know I picture it's a pretty wholesome thing for sonic to follow Yeah As he escapes from the city Uh, when will the next bat woven reaction come out? I do not know but um We will I know it will come eventually. I just don't know exactly when Uh, new year goals become a part of the efab podcast and say ewok once every podcast. Just wait. It'll be epic hoggers even Oh Go around saying ewok, man Good band Yeah, that's a slurry. You can't say that It's a bad taste Uh, I know a tlj fan who wants, uh, uh, uh rags I heard you like brussel sprouts. Have you tried pan frying them halved with bread crumbs and salt? Also, hi rags Hey, uh, generally we do pan fry them or bake them after you cut them in half Never with bread crumbs though something to think about It could be good Uh, you guys should do lefidel on expert mode for an efab gaming. Otherwise happy new year We could do that sometimes Maybe Maybe I think people want us to play black for blood at that point rags to like check out the new one Tell us what you think that sort of stuff I just thought it was good. I've heard too many bad things about it to want to play it at this point I've tried. I have given that game a very fair shake and I just It continues to frustrate me and annoy me I want to like it, but it's it's it's hard, but I really want to like it Uh, I don't have anything interesting or insightful to say. Hi rags No, hello. That's interesting Uh more. Oh man only six minutes won't be too long not even 10 seconds in and y'all stop let the long live you massive We still got through bob's video pretty quick We didn't even have to slow him down We there's a couple moments there. I thought maybe but I made an efab watch order if anyone wants to use it I update it with every new release on moola. You'll have to click on my channel to see it though It won't let me link it in super chat Well, as far as I know everything is released chronologically on the uh Moola, I don't think there's anything of that out of order. Is there? You just go from earliest upload to latest upload and you'll have pretty much everything in order I think some stuff has been taken down here and there for copyright, but most of it comes back up in time Um Only plays zelda trump impression is my favorite Yeah, some of the animations that have been made with that are funniest fuck Especially the one with linkara I have audio problems myself and use lightworks. I spent five pound so that rags could riff on me for that You have audio problems. So you use lightworks? They don't know what video editor Does that help with Can you say audio problems are we talking about when you get in the editing process or the microphone itself? Um Did you I just grill somebody for bad audio or something at some point? I don't know Movie bob. Well this person I mean Uh, who are they? Uh, toonie boy I I don't know I don't think so dude one of the curbies grabbed me while the other one did a fucking punch Nice that was that was coordinated They're evolving they planned this since the first curvy Um, this is my first time ever seeing you guys cover tv robert live Also ola to the australian pelican and the cat with sunglasses The cat with sunglasses you That's not true. I'm not a cat Well, they called fringy a pelican I don't think they were calling me a bird that's pretty that's pretty accurate No, it's not I mean if they said the australian pelican I feel like it's gonna be weird if they were talking to Skipper I think the mistake was the australian part not Skipper's not a pelican, right? That's a no No, it's a stork I thought so But calling rags a cat and calling you a pelican seems about like what they're going for there. It's consistent. I think so All right. Well rags ain't a cat either. I agree with that That is true. I'm not a cat. I am Much superior. We've definitely concluded that at this point. I am proud of that. Yes The blinker video came out in 2011 not 2013 I believe very unfair to compare CGI in 2005 to now his point was lucas. No, no, that's not that's not what we did That's what he did. He said nobody's surprised by CGI anymore Nobody's impressed by it. Which is a really dumb thing to say no matter what year you're in Uh, his point was lucas was too heavy-handed with the CGI at times said great things could have been done Uh, correctly. I wish that were his point because I agree Yeah Unfortunately said some really dumb stuff when it comes to CGI and no offense, but like it seems to have spread to a lot of people But somehow then recontextualizing to a much more reasonable point randomly and it's like People aren't impressed by CGI anymore. It's like Totally fucking off and they will for the future. Who knows what's gonna come out in the next like five years in terms of impressive CGI Yeah, who knows Um, hey molla check out neo next time you get the souls born itch great variety of weapons gear and attacks and magic and guardian spirits I have played it. Um I just prefer Uh blood born as my like go to a little bit sometimes I'm dark souls one Very used to Uh PA love the video. How did you know what I wanted for Christmas? Hi rags Hello, I don't know Santa told this which which video It's the same person that said the thing about plinket and CGI so they might be talking about that in which case I'm glad you had fun with it Uh working on my first video reviewing a neat game called the citadel wish me luck guys Also, who's the bird dude not green one also hi rags Hello, that would be dr. Skipper Who's here last time i'm talking about spoodman Maybe we're gonna have him back see him He really thinks about some videos this time around as opposed to just a movie We there. Yo, we criticize them both here. Can you believe it? Then pokeballs. Eh Happy new year efap. Thanks for the 12 months of great content. I look forward to the next 12 cheers. Oh, that's nice Happy new year indeed uh Yeah, I you know, hopefully it's around about the same amount that comes out this year, but there's no Great plans to release many many arcs or anything Or if uh what can get done when it can get done though. I imagine people feel like we're off to a good start with the uh The boba fet minis I say that as if there's more than one We will get there every Wednesday they come out that we are even able to see them That's another thing i'll have to figure out if we want to do a stream and watch it or just Watch it I don't Might depend on the discourse surrounding it. Hmm. Maybe Can't wait for that one episode to come out and everyone goes. Oh, I can't believe it. That's insane. Oh my god It's the best thing every time you're not so I don't know. Yeah, I had a stoke She's the best fucking character ever since the last one that was There was a light saber with so cool, but what if I use this flamethrower and then he Flew around with jetpack and then there was an explosion and then he didn't use the jetpack That's true Brian he doesn't Makes me wonder why he hauls that thing around. He should just use a normal backpack and keep things in it Well someone in the comment section I saw said didn't harm break it What? Well, I Is an obvious counter to that, but I don't know like Okay, it's yours. It's literally like the thing that the marshal uses in the That's his jetpack. This is like I don't think Han Solo broke it. No huh I don't know was the reasoning though. He just keeps it around because it looks cool Maybe he's like, but they don't know it doesn't work. Hmm. So I can fear it He'll never expect me to stay on the ground all the time Uh New year's eve was my birthday also firefly efat minis when That's not an impossibility. Maybe one day, but uh, it's not impossible. Happy birthday and merry new eve of year next Yeah Uh fringer, you are given a time machine That's only good for two uses and can only visit three different time periods. Do you prevent the? Port Arthur massacre Prevent the Tasmanian tiger from going extinct or prevent steve Owens death I feel like just in terms of the number of lives saved categorically you'd prevent the port Arthur And I guess when he says you can only do it two times you go there go back Presumably, yeah, but you could go there and then travel to another one of these things and Like save steve and then just stay in that timeline for Would you sacrifice your position and then here and now in order to save steve Owen? Um, I mean, I'd say yes, but it's a hypothetical so that doesn't really mean anything does it Oh Tells us a lot about you and the way that you think Well, I I'm saying that it doesn't mean anything and that that's easier said than none But you believe you would Oh, sure. Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't really see the problem with going back to like 2005 2006, you know It's not that long Is one steve Irwin Irwin worth all the Tasmanian devils? um Steve Owen is was uh, like really Good in terms of like encouraging conservation and things like that. So There might be a thing to be made about him Uh, like him existing might be able to benefit a greater number of species in terms of conservation efforts than um Then the Tasmanian the hell, you know, the problem is if you stay back in 2005 you can make some other differences, couldn't you? That's that's true. It's starting to try you get stopped my 11 From 2005 Yeah You can invest in like google in 2005 get in on the ground floor Hey, would you I guess as another sort of like like little moral quandary Because I was listening to your you know listening to your logic on the Steve Irwin thing would you Sacrifice Hitler to save all the Tasmanian tigers. What about that? I don't understand what it means. What do you mean sack? He dies like it's uh, well, yes, but it's Steve Irwin No, but they'll would you bring What do you mean like that? I don't understand the scenario Would I go to save the Tasmanian tigers and never interact with Hitler? It's like, yeah When is one Hitler worth all the Tasmanian tigers? What in terms of him dead to bring them all back? Yeah, I don't understand the question like what is the what is the hypothetical? So that here wait wait wait wait wait breaking news in the chat Someone said Tasmanian tigers still exist. No, they don't This changes everything they've been extinct for like nearly a hundred years Liar propaganda. Are they thinking about Tasmanian devils? No, Tasmanian devils are still around. Yeah What about Tasmanian humans? Well, yeah, they're Tasmanian humans They're just Tasmanians Wow. Yeah, that's yes. That has yeah. Yeah, that's just He's calm Tasmanians Uh, sorry, but Australia has to lose to the emus or you'll be melted Well, you know, they survived Established in, uh, fucking TV show If one brave man was a little too accurate with his Lewis gun He would have been melted and the world would be reset Yeah, I got one Oh, no, that one was supposed to live you shot the wrong one Fuck Things turn out too good this way you gotta stop Oh Do you butter your toast while it's hot or cooled? Why would you wait until it's cooled to butter it? Yeah, I don't wait until it's cooled because I like it if it melts it I feel yeah, I feel like I Yeah, I I'm trying to see what what is the advantage of waiting until it's cold I am legit curious. Maybe it's a preference. I mean would you If you're a strange person and you wanted your butter to not be melted I mean this preference is probably someone in chat right now saying they had to do it that way Right Like cold. Well, it's hot hot food hot I clearly hot like I obviously No This is objective. Yes Uh M&M eat your heart out and make space for Roberto What So I'll be out that one Whoa Do you think M&M watches movie Roberts reviews? Yeah Just one of the things that you sort of you would assume intuitively right M&M would watch them I can believe that M&M Watches movie Robert. There's some about it. That's just like yeah, I can just imagine that happening Would you watch jar jar binks movie our captain plasma? Yes This is our character banks Wait, are they asking if we would watch the captain plasma movie or jar jar banks because yeah, I know which one I'm choosing jar jar binks easily easily jar jar binks So much more interesting Imagine he is more interesting Jar jar is the key to all this plasma is just a tiny footnote in the history of Reviled Star Wars media Getting the key to anything Yeah, she sucks jar jar is Very instrumental to things So much potential for jar jar plasma though. Yeah no potential potential potential less She peaked Yeah, they really did all they could with it, you know She you know, I'm she belongs in the garbage chute. I don't say that Juan had the right idea. That's where she fucking belongs in the trash compactor. Yeah, that's such a like That's like they want to be so meta where they're like, what should we do with it trash compactor and it's like Oh, you remember the trash Yo, it makes sense to put her in there, but okay Either she can easily escape while you actually did kill her in there Hey, she's a and by the way, it's not necessarily more legal or whatever because you guys kill stormtroopers all the time But she was your captains But then again, how do you she did get out of there? How'd she get out of the fucking whole place exploding as well? Like, I don't know Oh my god this fine Uh mohla if jesus 2.0 were alive thanks to some ai merger Would a turing test be appropriate or what if the test is to see if the ai verifies humanity? Maybe duality both um What does that even mean jesus 2.0? but an ai Jesus 2.0 and an ai um And then you're asking like how would we verify it via the turing test? I don't think the turing test is going to be any way close to enough people for jesus 2.0 To verify that it was jesus for a lot. How does one verify that the ai is jesus 2.0? Yeah, I so I guess you'd have to have some kind of a test to I mean first off. Thank you for coming back when there's cameras now. Thank you That helps things a lot a lot that things that's makes things so much easier um But maybe you have to some kind of a test that can establish he can violate the laws of physics with magic I suppose maybe test his ability to make predictions with strict prediction criteria So that it's you know, like right proper prophecy um Maybe Yeah, I get you know, you should be able to do a lot of things if he is a Uh, if he is god powers, you know things that should be very easy for him to You know what? We wouldn't even have to worry about it. Yeah without his physical body to perform these miracles I think we're overthinking it a little bit. We got to go I think it's if he was really jesus 2.0 Then he would know what would convince all of us and so that would just sort itself out He would just he'd know and he'd do the thing and then we'd all be like, oh shit. Wow. It is you that's crazy You're so you're so robot-y I wouldn't have wow Strange question, but all right Uh fringledang What's up with my goo back before you get mad know that it's okay for me to say it Uh, I have a g would pass because I'm one eighth goo Also high metal. Oh, what's up my goo back? I guess is what he's calling you Yeah, but that's you can only say that view from the future All right, then Should I get a future g pass? um G pass is that what you give your homie your homie gets the g pass I don't know where he got it from rags. I wouldn't want to presume He also ended it with also high metal metals not even oh Racism that's rude if movibob with last galaxy brained he would be mr. Planket Even planket is loved by some people Yeah Yeah, it's mr. Planket All right, then Planket, I guess he's like a carpenter kind of like jesus All right Let's see why Is he like typically unloved or close to unloved mr. Planket What if jesus when he learned how to be carpenter I guess from his father I suppose if he just really really liked that and got a lot of You know like satisfaction and personal You know you felt like he got a lot of uh You know he really liked being a carpenter essentially and he's like nah, I just Do the whole jesus thing. I'm just gonna be a really good carpenter He became a world famous of world famous carpenter. He was just really good at it And that's how we knew him the greatest carpenter of all and he would tell like stories and things You know mixed quality and he'd be like, yeah Yeah, he'd be making like chairs and stuff while he told it Yeah, the kingdom of gods like a mustard seed also Notice the way that this uh the chair backing here slots into this peg and gives it good balance Like ah, yes, of course, of course Love mag rags more videos. You helped me fall asleep in a good way, of course excellent I know what you mean quality, yeah Uh, why did you allow cj to kill betty white with his jinxed tweet Well to be fair, he put the tweet out after everyone knew so I thought like I don't know like Or at least I thought everyone knew because I saw a lot of it on twitter and then I saw him tweet that out And I was like, oh, he basically just said like Um, this year is over finally like good things can happen or something like that It was before the year even ended Not only by british time, but uh american time for sure Here we go american time How typical american time Well, I mean a couple of them, but timmala Lappy new hair or hair Hail rags Hail I don't know what I did that bad, but okay I mean either I'm a little unsure about that. Not only did I finally quit my job in retail, but right before christmas Oh retail Hell right before christmas, but now I have a job that pays a lot better and allows me to play efap in the background Happy new year massives. Hi rags Oh, hello. Oh great. Enjoy Um, this time pretty good often get that many jobs that give you a chance for that Um, just neat when they do Stop running away from me Stop it Just because i'm invincible doesn't mean it Didn't fight me Love oh wait. Uh, I don't like rags. He's coarse and rough and bangs everything No, of course I rough and I bang everything Because I'm a dog Uh, since we're talking about spider-man I submit this neat spider to check out the sparkle muffin spider a real dancing a real life dancing spider sparkle muffin Oh, he's a colorful little guy Apparently he does dances too Very wholesome spider Oh boy Which i'm sure there are many A great movie to shut this adaptation argument up is the mask the original comment is dark gory and stanley is a villain While the movie is mainly a comedy and stanley is jim carrey at his best Interesting Because I I didn't even know the mask was I guess taken from something or if I did I forgot but um I don't think anybody just people like the mask movie. Typically, right? I think so. Yeah I don't know. I have no clue What the reputation of the mask films are Well, son of mask is considered one of the worst movies all time, but i'm pretty sure that my ask is like quite a bit Are we gonna efat movies that? Maybe What happened? We do the first one as well father of the mask Oh, yes Feels like a rick and morty bit And they're referencing movie bob's video And they can feel that way Don't look up me and my girlfriend loved it my call me boss loved it for completely different reasons My boss saw trump and I saw hillary good film Okay All right, I don't know I have no idea what's what's going on with that film then Ah, yeah, I got no clue Um end one china man each boom climate crisis solved. Oh my Uh, it's time for the planet to end jake skywalker Oh Guy wouldn't go as far as say they'll be out of character at this point That's the the star or the disney vision of him Uh screw timmy the tree. I want to sponsor roger the shrub Oh, I guess we're on high tops video then yeah You can you can sponsor robber the shrub if you want i'm not gonna You know stop here feel like everyone should get their reference money Money python reference. I I was gonna just say and I still think that as much as that might be true Timmy the tree was A lot going on there. We worked hard on getting him some sponsorships. You just want to choose to abandon him fine Not to die at this point Uh, the planet had its chance calbo baggins Get all superman could be relied upon for letting this world die. I'm sure Yeah Pay us $50 and we will absolve your climate sins We made it sound a little bit like that Uh, have y'all seen good time from the safties? No, but I've heard that film's good. I haven't you heard of it. Uh, I think it's roger padderson's in it Okay Uh, this is totally a jack murphy biz watch someone else water your tree You get pictures and can write about how climate alpha you are Climate alpha I'm an alpha when it comes to protecting the climate Someone actually referenced jack murphy in a super challenge. I lost catch up and uh, I had no idea who's jack murphy He's just a guy who's gone into a lot of stuff lately. That's strange Um Without getting more specific. Is he like Is he like a celebrity or an actor or a writer? He's a celebrity of some kind. I don't know what he's famous for but Yeah, there's um, I was made aware of it on good old friday night tights. I had no idea But quite the journey 2020 welcome to the tizmy 20s every year after the past years I've been very tizmy but this new year Happy 4th of july you massives and peace high rags Hi. Yeah, I think 2022 is gonna be great We're way better All kinds of great stuff's gonna happen. I guarantee it if it doesn't come true Uh, then I didn't guarantee it just now. I had my fingers crossed If you subscribe we plant a tree if you don't but yeah, yeah Uh rip betty white gone too soon massives. What are your new year's resolutions for 2022? Necromancy for betty white I don't really do new year's resolutions. I don't see it as like a any reason to Make something happen that I wanted to have happened anyway. I don't know I thought you're gonna be like I don't really do necromancy I will to be fair. I don't but I wouldn't want to discourage you. I'm giving it a shot as long as you're a Zombing voidy avoiding zombie territory. That's what I wanted to say Sure But I understand that there are risks and you know, you don't want it to be a zombie But it could turn out that way and that you'll deal with it as best you can That's what's important. I think um Anyone else here got any Resolutiony stuff or no No It's a all right then It's just a different number on the end of the year same old same Uh, have you guys seen cosmonauts video about how he loves the movie because peter suffered? The people are psychos. I don't do with this anymore like Just convinced of it. Oh you got a hammer come on Um Yeah, I guess it doesn't surprise me anymore. I just don't know how to do with it um Now machine the sun they harden in response to plot contrivances punches scripts. You can't critique me jack Well They're pretty useful Stop eating me. Uh Gemma 985 is a neat goblin incur him on efab Who wants to be mean to somebody I'm gonna restart could be lost a lie That'll be a forking out loads of money. Yeah poor germa How dare you maul of the irrigation systems here in wisconsin are doing just fine. Thank you very much. Hi rags springy. How is australia? Uh, hi, uh, I don't know. Uh other than fake No, it's not Fake irrigation system Yeah, you want to say anything about australia they're free or fake irrigation systems No, they said how is australia? Oh Yes, it's the place How is it still convincing some people that it's real? I don't know some people just really double It's not hard to convince people that it's real because it is so It is because it is great argument typical Typical Um Huge issue in mcu since civil war is the no consistency of power level peter and iron man's in iron spider suit should dispatch dark and goblin in second Why Well, I mean goblin's really Strong goblin's a buff boy He is a buff boy And I mean iron spider like is not necessarily going to help you deal with the tentacle blades, you know Not the tentacle blades the tentacles themselves tentacles are real strong Yeah Oh, yeah, I don't know I just you if you can highlight for me a time where he's done something And then couldn't do it later for no reason. I'm all ears, but uh You can't find me Um, who's spoo to take is worse high top or blame the controller High top is cringe but blaming the controller made me angry. Why? Well, um, they're similar right the whole Spider-man should be axe and shouldn't be why all that stuff Who's more cringe? I guess I think high top because he appeals to people's emotions way more Like depending desperately trying to manipulate the fuck out of people And he doesn't use like try and convince people or use evidence or anything which is always frustrating That it's just like this whole film was ugly as fuck, right guys. It's like no No, it wasn't I don't know blames position. So I can't really speak to it much I remember he said that miles wasn't a spider-man, which I thought was stupid what You were there this was 150 remember right? Wait, wait 150. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do I do I do remember now I'm still gonna say High top is a more frustrating Yeah, at least playing was like saying stuff you could engage with I think I guess I would agree with more or it's just more emotional manipulation in the case of the way that high top does it Yeah, it's just annoying A friend told me that jimmy fox can save an otherwise crap script tazam may say otherwise But he certainly has that charisma. They didn't let him in tazam too. He plays a very Disjointed strange fucking person Soon as he gets like Like he's he's definitely we could call a normal person Before he enters the eel thing and then then he becomes really fucking strange. Yeah He he needs to the world without powers world without Spotted man, you know Has a one and two the purest of peter park is outside of ramy not like that stinky mcu um This is qq. Are there any are the two eddie brocks now with the venom symbiote now in the mcu? Would it somehow find spider-man and find other eddie? Or would it find flash? Uh, you can do whatever you want really. Yeah, I have no clue what they're gonna do. I guess we'll find out I want to have a spider-man movie where uncle ben nearly avoids death during the whole film And then saying that was close every time high rags Hello, that would be funny. Well, what if we Give him like a death scene where he's like peter with He's like, oh Just like the wi and that's it is peter's uh, wha What were you gonna say uncle? I'm gonna kill everyone because you couldn't finish that sentence Have you guys seen cosmonauts? Oh wait. Yeah efap reacts doubles star tracks. Sorry when y'all wrote novels Um Is that is that a separate question as to whether or not we've written also Then as for the star trek stuff, who knows what may happen in the future, but uh, no guarantees of any of that my rags Hello Do you prefer top or bottom when it comes to males bottom Sandman and lizards conclusions should have been lower priority since they were alive and turned good by the end of their respected films anyway Um, it's I guess these are these are multiversal Weird it's weird I don't know that They seem to only be aware of the basic information that they're all gonna die as to who should have been given focus I think they made their choices and they made them well I I figure we would make similar choices if we were told You've got all them Now um Make them give like like the idea of making green goblin the villain is just like yep that lines up quite well, I'd say I'm something of a villain myself, you know Oh, yes When I make a video rags. Yeah four months ago Oh Well, I mean however long it takes It would mean he's making the video. I don't know That's someone who takes aid just to make videos It's uh, it'd be it'd be a lengthy process sometimes Yeah Uh, best thing to come out of spider-man 3 was bully maguire. Yeah, that's a top tier meme. It's like one of the best memes we got Sometimes you want to remind people like you understand the power of that meme comes from how fucking dumb that whole thing was, right? Yeah, not that it's a great idea Like I don't want people to keep Taking that stance. That was actually really great. No, it was so funny and awesome and self-aware and Really great commentary. It's like just stop It's really funny because it's They actually did it Just I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye and you want to give this get religion see and jump What the hell If you all like that edit Yeah Wife was heartbroken when he didn't talk to mj at the end, but she thinks the endgame time travel works So who cares can't wait for tss efab movies Here's what my wife thinks I care what not me Not me. Uh, here finding it heartbreaking. That's good, right? Because it is a really sad scene where he's It should be kind of heartbreaking. Yeah Because yeah, that's I think that's what the scene's going for Um And you know what it's okay that she thinks the time travel in any game works That's fine. I hate this. I haven't urged to punch a wall and the pain, please I I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but if you suffer you might become spider-man to be careful Some some clown on the chest that i'm behind but tragic loss is an essential aspect of being spider-man if you disagree You fundamentally misunderstand the character Remember if you have if you can shoot webs well this thing climb up walls and you have spidey scents And you have a good life with no tragedy. You know, you're not spider-man I feel like I do you one better if you respect the idea that with great power comes great responsibility And then you do all the things you just said you're still not spider-man until you've lost someone you love It's like i'm sorry You guys don't you see how arbitrary that is compared to the lessons he learns the character that he is Why is it that you're gatekeeping it onto the point where someone he loves has to die? That's so fucking weird How many people have to die for punisher is it the whole family or is it half or can it just be one or can it be none of them? And his kid gets punched like whoa What does it take? For it to be the true one And do you apply this standard consistently to other dancers? No Well, maybe batman maybe that like his parents have to die that might be something that people would say but You just think about anybody else What does the will have to be you could make a batman with his parents are just abusive and they're just horrible people Absolutely could yeah god damn We got the retards out and forced today rags is a man who could fly and shoot lasers from his eye automatically superman dark side Dark side equals superman because they have similar powers according to rags you can call him superman If they're if the character is called superman and he flies and he shoots lasers out of his eyes It's because he's called superman though. It's not specifically because he shoots lasers out of his eyes Yeah This first loser This first guy says i'm not wrong spider-man slash peter parker's character is defined by loss Dude, you can't prove what you're saying. How can you possibly say that you're definitely right? There's nothing to prove that trucking claims. That's all I hear all here is you just saying it It's all I hear is you're just saying it You can't prove that like how do you prove that something is a definitive attribute? Like what does that mean to prove that? Then it is categorical and inaudible Is henry cattle superman then i'm guessing not considering the things that he does Look at him. He's can't be calling him superman. Don't you dare? Yeah, he murders a He said ship full of babies. That's not something superman would say He was called superman before that. Yeah before he did that Then he did it. Then he stopped being superman He shoots his eyes at the ship. He's still being superman I mean you're indistinguishable from superman, but you aren't you're not superman anymore So Yeah, like this won't work. It'll never work Sorry So I'll get right on proving it. Let me go and get 40 years of spider-man comics and scan them in as superchats No, unacceptable. You have to have 500. That's the limit. It's that line. We've all agreed 500 is the limit It has to be even prove anything even if you did that that doesn't prove anything All it tells me is I'm assuming you can tell what my point is, right? Yeah, he's gonna be like 500. No, I think 40 years is enough and I'm like, no I think 10 years is enough. No, I think one month isn't And also you need to include all spider-man comics all of them superior spider-man Including the ones you don't like The mild spider-man stuff you need to include the other spider people characters every single appearance of him in everything Every single thing the other comics he appears into I don't care whether it's canon or not anymore. We talk about fans are just fucking bizarre As if the three videos we covered today didn't just prove it further To in particular but spider-man fans are bizarre Yeah, because moviebob was the normal one today Moviebob was oddly enough the normal one People are relishing and suffering of a character and it's like it's it's weird. It's really weird Miles isn't spider-man There it is. I don't get that one. What's the problem? You guys don't say this about wall-y west No, I'll stop saying it wall-y west isn't the flash. Okay Not Thank you for coming to my dead talk If that's the bullet you want to buy it then buy all means but They won't buy this Batman kill does he not kill? What's the real batman because he does both and the original definitely killed he killed with fucking machine guns Ben Affleck is not Batman Okay Some it's it's weird to me. They're so passionately doing that for The miles, but you wouldn't do it for the the snider versions of the characters The character the comparison for batman is perfect. It's essential to the character Thanks for making the argument for our side. No, so the reason why I brought it up Very well could do a story where his parents aren't dead Or you could do a story where they are dead But then he ends up like punisher and you'd be like, well, no, this isn't batman It's like well his parents died Uncle Ben gets shot and spider-man becomes a fucking terrorist You can do a superman story where krypton doesn't get blown up What what if uncle ben got shot and just didn't die? It wasn't a fatal gunshot He lives and lived a long life And maybe the whole thing with spider-man's story now is oh god I nearly lost you. I'm never gonna let that happen And then he becomes an overzealous protector of you know We joke about it, but what if he did die before getting that that message out to him or whatever And then Peter takes the wrong fucking lesson from the event And that's the whole spider-man anymore because he didn't take the right lesson. Oh, okay. You have to do this You have to do this Is it legit this clown continues just read the damn comics and we don't care We don't give a shit. We do not give a flying fuck about comic books Man, I why well, I mean, I don't bring it like reading the comics for sure But like it's not going to change my position on this. It would just be like, oh, yeah That's what he is in the comics for sure In this specific arc or like this But in particular time and this is the story that's being told doesn't really change anything Yeah, let's let's um I remember reading a spider-man comic where it was like the CEO of his own company Yeah, we don't like those ones though. Yeah, but but yeah He wasn't poor and being poor is fundamental to his fucking character or no because the thing is is that people say to that Oh, yeah, but that was only for a short amount of time. It's like what What does that mean? So was he not spider-man for a short period of time and then he became spider-man again I feel like this sells it if if Miles Morales isn't spider-man then Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill aren't Batman or Superman Well, then everything isn't yeah, except for like the very original one that existed Like Adam West can't be Batman. No That's some that's some crazy campy nonsense. That is definitely not Batman It's like if if you can have the dark night Batman and also Adam West Batman And I'm just like at what point is it so which one is not Batman? Let me let me know you guy you comic book Guys get back to us and let us know which one isn't the real Batman. I top said that um michael keaton batman isn't batman man like you're in trouble um That one I think is more agreeable for a lot of fans because he's too I think he's too he kills So it's it's bad. Right. All right. It doesn't like the original batman and we don't do that It's not the accepted one, right? Oh, okay. Oh, all right, of course. All right. Okay See like the true statement if it would be that batman not killing people Is a common element in many of his stories. That's a true statement to then just take the leap to therefore This is a definitive attribute of his character. It's like, what does that mean? The thing you said it's just quantifiable before it feels like it's a perversion of how we use it in single continuities The definitive part of Luke's character that cares about his family However, it is not a definitive part of Luke's character in a different adaptation I feel like people haven't Gathered that from how we've talked about all these different pieces of content, but that's how it's always been for us Get what what if batman's parents lived and his friends parents died instead and that was what motivated him Does can he still be batman? Well, it's just are you Is the implication that we're not allowed to do this or are you gonna say no you can it's just not batman Or like as a superman So what are you what are you why are you saying this like you're saying this for a reason And the reason is you're trying to de-legitimize the those things um That's like if somebody if somebody wrote a if there was a a redo of the lord of the rings movies And gandalf turned out to be corrupted and saruman turned out to be the good one Then automatically not lord the rings. I mean how It's I don't know I I'm not sure it's just a I would argue it's like it's they've adapted it and they've changed some stuff But this doesn't prevent the story from being excellent from all we know mm-hmm Um, and yeah, I we've been over so many times and we'll just have to keep going over it People will continue to be angry at us for this take, but I don't I've never been convinced by the arguments I mean if we even get arguments, which we generally invested in In terms of like there's nothing that my stuff rests upon with this because like I don't really care like like, you know, if someone's like if I talk about miles morales from into the spider-verse Someone like said legally. I'm not allowed to refer to him a spider-man. I'd be like, okay I can still talk about how great that film is I guess uh make because because I think The the reason why I think people get really attached to this one is just the idea that there is something that you dislike About a level of legitimacy being given to something that you feel is like not an apt interpretation of the character that you like Um, so I mean for instance, I don't like the new style of like the Ratchet and Clank games in terms of like narrative and tone I definitely prefer the older games where they had um There's definitely an edgier sense of humor a bit more bite um And then like a movie comes out that's based on the more modern interpretation And yeah, it's all like happy go lucky and kid friendly. It's like well, that's annoying But that's all it is annoying like I can't really make an argument in favor of why that's worse Or like necessarily worse because it's different Like any argument for how it's worse would need to be based strictly on what it is And then the comparison to what I think is better would have to be on the basis of its merits rather than that They're different. I feel like that's the fundamental disconnect It being different isn't good enough When someone said when does an adaptation go too far It's like well if we're talking what does it mean to be a good adaptation and if we've defined that as as accurate as possible Then at that point It's spread to the end point. It's like it's the worst kind. It's like a terrible adaptation. It's barely an adaptation at all However, that doesn't affect how well written it is Which is the position we've had forever Until I'm argued out of it. I'm gonna keep saying it They're arguing character on what it means to be spider-man and they're wrong So like if you watch a film and they say here's sloop over He's called spider-man like that's it. That's the end of the conversation Yeah, like we We can't actually be wrong in the sense of Referring directly to what is written as his name in that universe Yeah, like take a film like 12 Angry Men. One of the jurors is called spider-man. It's like I guess we're calling him spider-man then What's his name? Maybe like well, he's not really spider-man. It's like well, that's what he's called Yeah, I don't know what he wants to do at that point Uh, so that's obviously an argument that works in favor of miles But then when you get to the whole like spider-man's a mantle you have to earn and or rather no Spider-man is something you can only have if your name is peter parker. That gets really strange And then for the spider-man is only something you can be if you have these attributes or this backstory Is spider pig spider-man? I'm guessing not. He's spider pig. No, he's he's not That's how it'd be justified. He's different. That's the thing. I've never Do you see me like I'm I don't have that component in me that's like calling him spider-man like I don't know. I don't you know Spider-man must be a great ape Peter porker. Oh, yes Why can't yeah, why can't spider-man species be ambiguous? Yeah, he could be an alien, right I don't see why not if if if if uncle if uncle bin the alien If uncle bingo or Bindar My name is retest shot by a laser beam I I just I man spider and I'm from the planet alien Planet alien Literally, I always said that it's like the first stories for both of them reflect like what they end up being which is spider-man learns About responsibility for an action he takes that is bad action Usually and then Batman usually learns all of it from having seen his parents die It's like but obviously you'd agree then that the important part is what they learned not the event lesson Not how they learn the lesson And so we should have freedom at the very least because I'd go further than this But at least you can agree right that we can make them learn that lesson in many ways Right Like if I did everything the same in your favorite Batman comic Except for the fact that his parents Were brutally injured and in a coma Does is that okay still are we okay? So obviously I want to push it further than that but I just want to make sure it's like even that as a change Is that okay? Yeah, I don't know because like the the funny one for us has always just been so I want to see uncle ben dead and you're like God Why can't yes spider-man can learn the lesson of great power rate responsibility By witnessing the positive impact that his actions have on those around him You know, you don't have to learn that lesson through some horrific tragedy No, the idea that that's the only way he can learn this left If we can be kind of ridiculous matter for a second That's kind of what's happening with the audience the idea is that we're supposed to be learning about this message Without having to deal with the fact that our parents get killed or guardians, whatever Because stories have morals typically and I feel like that's what spider-man's going for And that um, I don't understand why it wouldn't be considered something of a story about how all of us have that You know agency within us Does it I would argue the spider-man where aunt may die saying stuff about responsibility and power is not the real Spider-man story because spider-man story is defined by aunt may being alive and helping him these people can't be saved I don't want to do that Well, are these they can't be saved I just don't I don't know what else I You're broken rags. Well, because you kind of broke me too because I was just about trying to counter-argument I was like, wait, what do I even say like Well, the counter-argument's just going to be the same stuff that's being said over and over again The army has to be there. Otherwise, it's not a true spider-man story. Wow. We're at that point now, too I didn't know she was I did I thought uncle I didn't know she was the integral one to the real spider-man story Which means that 99% of spider-man stories aren't the real ones or they might be or Anything that deviates from the real one is uncle ben and aunt may have shot and killed by a mugger And he learns the message You know, yeah all upcoming Uh spider-man stories and no longer spider-man stories because may is not in it anymore. Damn Even though Uh high-top and brown table seemed to believe that him having no one was Quintessential Yeah, this is confusing to learn about, you know This is the thing just uh Put it into the test if they remake Our wars they're like we're going to get a whole new ot it's going to be great And luke is a cowardly idiot throughout the whole thing Um, I'd be very annoyed but as long as he's consistently written Uh, that isn't a criticism for the writing itself. That's more of a just fuck you to the audience. It seems Even that is a tough argument to make definitively because you know, uh We hear like a challenge when it comes to writing and it's like could you remake the ot While keeping luke as a cowardly idiot throughout it. That's your only restriction And also make it well written if not better than the ot. Is that a possibility? Like we'll we'll just have a character called luke who's kind of the the idiot of the group We can bring in a whole set of new characters Um to the point where Could end up being something that's this beloved. I don't know the they're considered like difficult things to pull off But by us rather than assassinations But if you did that to him in the same continuity completely destroying the characters like yeah, of course we take issue with it Well, I'm happy to move on Just having peter parka lose someone won't necessarily have the same result The original idea is that the loss occurred as a result of peter's selfishness. The point is the lesson Sure, I just uh as far as I say is just you can learn that in many many ways. Um Yeah, and if that's been agreed upon I would still push that I don't know that That's doing where you can be spider-man is to lend that lesson as opposed to other ones Maybe maybe not uh and characters evolve and change and stuff But you know that's chapter seven thousand six hundred forty three in an ever ongoing argument back and forth will forever have about what it means to be a character See you next time Uh So in your opinion count dankula doesn't have integrity because he takes sponsorships from raid shadow legends Well, I didn't say you have no integrity if you take it, but I think you might have rags If I meant you have no integrity at all in all of your being then that's Not what I meant by that Should have been intuitive, but it is certainly uh Breach of it in some capacity Gotta be I think uh, I would imagine dank would have to agree with that in some way if he understood what raid shadow legends is And the effect it has um, I'm assuming he would agree that the better help slash, uh Candid ones were unethical and so then it's just a matter of where the line is drawn. I think so, yeah um Hi Uh samurai me spider-man is now the first mcu movie Yeah, a lot of people saying that if the multiverse is open in the nature of the way that it seems to be then Isn't the first one whatever the fucking the first story written was I guess yeah Because um, it'll go earlier than ramy at that point to the x-men if the x-men are brought in they'll be the other ones Yeah, I don't know seems a little bit arbitrary to me like if you've got the multiverse just means everything's included Which is okay Uncle Ben lives at all raid shadow legends Sounds about right So, uh high top has 10k dislikes a quarter of the bar Yes, there's now an extension for dislikes already. I've sent you fana on twitter. Hope you like it high rags If there's an extension for dislikes, I might have to find a new one because my current one no longer Functions as far as I know or at least it isn't quite Yeah, I think they're trying to slap them down Which is really people like when you see the the links that people are trying to go to to get this feature back that you've removed. It's just YouTube is just the voice youtube is youtube We're doing this for the community the community desperately tries everything they can to get this feature back No, no, we're doing this for you. We're doing this for you Somebody drew this I guess while we were talking about different things to do with spondoman I Loved one screaming souls all spidey loved ones. No High table Give me this a truth to this. Okay I like that you can tell it's him because of the spider-man outfit We could um That would be a good way to Whenever we're talking about high top and brown table just saying high table Like sam narek from lord of the flies Definitely a shorter way to do it Uh I'm gonna go see spider-man no way home again at this point to spite high top for his objectively awful take on it I just don't think he's heard the challenges or I wonder if he has High top is the conductor on the bad faith train to presumptuous And the one who seals the bulkhead to the interpretation chamber cringe mash fray um What's interesting is that had myself rags and fringy gotten the entire Let's call it history of comics in our head I feel like we'd be even more adamant about how wrong a lot of what people say about this stuff is Yeah Um, but we haven't and we won't necessarily at all because it's just not necessary for the arguments But I do sometimes wonder Hey fab gang currently at the beginning of the stream But saw that you were going to talk about high tops crap video been waiting for this ever since it came out Also happy new year Happy new year I hope you enjoy the coverage brown table should call his short films brown shorts Oh I think he's gonna avoid that Uh nihilistic or sad does not equal intelligent Yeah, I agree. Uh, sometimes it can I I think do get a sense sometimes that there's like when peter is miserable suffering in the apartment with everyone dead and gone And there's people out there who are like, oh, that's sad. It's like you don't understand how meaningful this is All right Yes, you're very clever for noticing that it is meaningful So weird to me when you have someone being like, oh, I'm sad for him that he's lost so much in his life And you got like high top and brown table like no, you should be happy about this This means we'll get better stories Uh ht it's about a thing to do a verb and save noun. It has heart and soul and other body parts It's spider-man But is it really a sentence of uncle ben lives? I'm gonna say there's no mention of uncle ben in a sentence. I don't know It's not my sentence Hashtag not my uncle ben If peter parka isn't logic just put out his 10 year anniversary. Oh, so you Yeah, neat Unfortunately, I will collapse after this. Yeah, we really should Not to watch it when I wake up after this efap is done Wrong go pink is a nice color sweater rags. Some of you efap is are okay. Don't come to stream tomorrow. Also. Hi rags Hello, that was a line crossed I would say apparently standards Must be upheld. It's very important if peter parker isn't web slinging a noose. Is he really responsible? it was What Did you miss bounce anus? No, uh, I don't know how that would make more sense well I don't either Web slinging a noose Maybe he could he his webs for manuse. He grabs uncle ben with it and pulls him away right before the bullets hit him I'll be like In tazan, but he's trying to save the guy with webs and he accidentally fucking chokes him to death uncle ben And then just before he dies like prepox for itself is like dies Yeah, what if uncle ben was killed in a way that rendered him unable to speak? Like maybe yeah, he was strangled. He couldn't quite In finna's like typically say they're lying well before they die Yeah, well I think the real spider-man needs to hear it from a dead or a dying uncle ben And Rize he's just like on the concrete after he's been shot Or just injected with anthrax Brown table needs to be in the banner for if you have 200 making margaritas with confetti I'm playing about that. Sure. You should guest on it. I'm talking about spider-man I'm just says I like my spider-man suffering like yeah, there's a lot of you guys out there Very strange way to categorize your love for character, but you go right ahead Yeah, I hope you never like me Real rags is defined by tragedy and loss there could be no other way Each spider-man is literally a villain Like well according to what we saw from brown table. Yeah, that part was very weird Brown table would make chili out of aunt may and uncle ben and feed it to spider-man Just like eric hartman licking up a sweat as sweet spidey tears he would yeah And he'd be like this is for your own good. You're gonna become a hero You have to understand Brown tables TNS ad was good, but shads fist hello fresh ad and his barrel vid was god tier when he pulled that massive book of recipes You knew it was legit. Oh, I'm sure He blew up a theater inshallah ah I probably pronounced them horribly Literally exploding is the new everyone like that um I don't even know if he was accounted for everybody in that he was just saying that he himself exploded and it's thankful that he survived He's still with us Boba fat almost became peak spider-man when that tuscan raiders was beating him with clubs and sacks of rocks suffering yeah, but Did uncle ben ben show up? Uncle boat ben fat. I don't think so Oh Just drag him out of little tent and have boba say it and say like ben Help me out and then we'll just execute some Time for you to get some wedge web slinging abilities Please get down. I literally exploded in the theater. All right. I'll give you that one. That's fair Literally Crown table high top molla. What in the hell did we ever do to you? We don't deserve these glue chug and tizmoids. Hey now glue chug and tizmoids. I like that They had a lot of valid things chugging that glue maybe Imagine this spider-man movie peter kills uncle ben becomes the god of suffering. I bet they would love that script Just yes god of suffering He suffers always and forever for all time in eternity. It would be funny the more suffering the more spider Goes through the multiverse finding all of the peters and killing their uncles just to make sure they've become peters At least you wonder how the first Spider-man became or he's not spider-man. He thought he was but he learns at the end that he was only The creator of spider-man. He could not himself be a spider-man He guides others to a treasure. He can't He just didn't have an uncle. He was never bored with what he's that one peter But didn't oh, yeah, what if he just don't have an uncle? He can't be piece of pager at that point. Okay, give me a park Oh my goodness Brown table gave schindler's list a four out of ten because the jews didn't suffer enough How many uncles did they lose don't know He spelled intel acutal wrong in the title change it back. Also, you dumbos ought to play ddlc You know what? I should have said intel acutal. That's correct. My bad Dead island games next halloween, please. Also jedi aca aca Academy or academy jedi academy. Uh jedi academy, right? Yeah, that's the people like that one Um Yeah, I don't know if we'll play dead islands. Maybe maybe not. I don't know This is paotd Diplodocus or diplodocus What's the correct pronunciation for that? paotd Diplodocus Is it diplodocus or diplodocus? I'm not actually sure. Diplodocus let me Let's see Diplodocus Diplodocus I think it's diplodocus No one just write it out in chat to help me with the pronunciation. It's like Thank you Unless you write it out and they like monetically like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Dip Lod Cus Or diplodocus I don't know. I guess we'll never I guess we'll never know Yes Did you see patricia taxon admit tlj isn't as good as she said it was and only praised it so much to upset people who didn't like it Okay Has never been our interest in discussion, but I know there's plenty of people who do things just for that Don't care who whose team it lines me up with when I pick something being Kitty or not Is what it is Yeah I'm starting to consider teams I'm starting to think that dealing with these masses has started to skew your perspective on spooderman going from apathetic to traditional spidey to antipathetic Uh, I swear if at some point in the future they make a new spiderman film series The sticks far more to the original script the traditional script for the character that rags would get tizmy bach they Caved into high top and also high rags No What I I don't think they caved into high top is a phrase that I would ever say We didn't say that on no way hard And like he's claiming that's what they did So if they made a film that was almost one to one ramy spider-man one I'm assuming that's the one you guys are talking about when it comes to traditional. I have god. I know The response from us wouldn't be are they finally given height up what he was. It's like no, they're just going with something safe And also we don't care if heights up gets what he wants. I don't even like know what he wants He's too difficult to Like pegged down anyway, and certainly wouldn't When a you know kind of set ourselves on that kind of standard There are plenty of things that can happen with spider-man. I thought that was like our obvious position Absolutely I'm not gonna pigeonhole him into having to do things a certain way Like giving him what he wants we would expect that would only happen as a context of if we thought they did it really Badly as well like the film opens with Empanicking and he's like god if only someone could help me deal with this Is is is Ben around and she'd be like, yeah, he's around He just hasn't been around for past few years because he's been busy working abroad and he's like hello, peter Just I know you're dealing with a lot right and they just talk for a little while and then he goes, you know Great power and just do all that shit and then he literally walks out of the room gets fucking hit by a sniper It's like done See we did it. Does everyone like our movie now? It's like no But we would say yeah, I guess they were trying to appeal to those people who just wanted the uncle ben dead Definitely not against a what you're calling traditional spider-man story. Do not worry about that Is big bad beard 1000 available in this game or is that the only only in the cuckold simulator? I think that's another jack movie reference If that's his name, I keep forgetting it as well I don't know. I don't know who this guy is Kingdom arcane Hawkeye media medley could be fun. Hmm Hmm Hawkeye could definitely throw me. I'm all down Yeah, I'm definitely keen on media medleys Well, it just means covering three spider-man to some snakes at once is doesn't worry the idea of Covering Hawkeye that quickly probably will be what happens if it gets covered They do wonder if there are people in our audience who are like, we ain't fucking watching it So until you cover it, we don't even know what Hawkeye is Damn Any new year's goals I haven't covered it before not necessarily Are you freeing each of new year's goals? No, I'm gonna finish a book this year. That's the plan anyway But otherwise I those will keep them close to the chest Anyone I would recommend um One fish two fish red fish blue fish classic Got to strengthen those building blocks in your basics and then after that you can move up to the advanced materials like fox and socks Alrighty then EFAP Knights of the High Table of the brown um These people are straw man in comic spider-man. I've read many spider-man comics It's not all death and suffering a lot of the time. It's a slice of life story with an interpersonal drama I'm sure it is. Well those you are not referring to the approved real spider-man comics The ones that you are talking about Don't have those things. Those are fakie. Those are fakie comics. They're not real. They're not part of a spider-man canon If you fool you've fallen right into their trap. They sold you non-canon fakie spider-man. That's not real spider-man Uncle Beds Ben's drawing breath spider-man can't be slinging webs if he is he's an imposter Down with the pretender Um, hi rags. Oh Jews. I forgot to say it with respect. Hello, raggleton Hello, I'm usually high froggleton and high doctor bird opinions on pickled food I don't really have anything on pickled food. Yeah, I don't think I've had pickled food. I don't do they taste like pickles It was a process to pickle something, but I just don't that's not in my diet typically Do you you keep them in pickled juice for a certain amount of time or some kind of cucumber based extract or I don't know it. Let let me Google it real quick if it involves pickles substantially. I'll probably hate it because I just do not like pickles Uh pickling Pickling is the process of preserving or extending the shelf life of food by either anaerobic fermentation in brine or immersion in vinegar The pickling procedure typically affects the food's texture and flavor the resulting food is called a Pickle or to prevent ambiguity prefaced with pickled There you go, so I don't know actually I I don't I've seen pickled food and jars and stuff all the time, but I've never Never had any so I don't know Pickle guy myself That's what it is I like the look of it. I like the decorative look that pickled food has All right Well, there you go Yeah, in no way home. Why couldn't strange just make everyone forget mysterio to solve the problem. He's not very bright um Forget mysterio. Do you mean? Forget mysterio and everything mysterio said right we'd have to do that too and then Miss forget everything to do with records of peter's identity as well. We need to wipe that out I don't know how that how does that spread in terms of like a web of Consequence from trying to wipe out what people know about mysterio. Does that affect everything else like does it affect Everything past then after surely right Because I assume there has to be all of the physical it it has to extend past the memories of you know of all the minds There has to be an aspect of it. It erases as well Physical evidence that exists in the world that will allow people to just go. Oh, what are all these photographs and recordings of this character? I just don't remember. How do how do we not remember this? And then everyone realizes that they don't remember it and that becomes its own phenomenon across the world that there's What would be strange if he realized his mind had been tampered with He's like, who did this? Did I do this? Oh my goodness. Oh, and if you found out he did it you'd be like fucking hell Yeah, that's so bad He would have probably said he would probably say something like man It must have took me a lot of convincing to do this. It must have been really grave and dire I would I can't imagine what worldwide cataclysm I didn't make myself aware of this spell and casting on myself. It sounds more so like something I was forced to do Yeah, why do why did the caster of this spell not want me to remember? Then he strokes his beard He goes Yeah, um, the spell's really dumb that's my position What I meant by two uses with the time machine is going back and returning counts as one use Oh, so you got to choose two out of the three options um Yeah, I think the the one it was the the killings and saving steve o in and then I can't remember what the third one was um But they would probably be those two One to ten. How hot do you think peach is? I don't know Oh, I brought up the fruit of course I don't know it's it's hard to tell because she's I guess if we lived in like cartoon world, you know, she's like a cheesy character, you know Yeah, I don't look at her. I don't see hotness in her. She's pretty but I don't see her as like hot Um, I mean she is she is very attractive. I suppose as far as that goes But I don't I don't know. I don't really think about That What does jen jesus think about gandalf's resurrection? Is he jealous? He didn't get to battle a balrog Oh, definitely Like I think if there's one thing we know about jesus, he's jealous of gandalf. That's been like When we've all known for a while But one day maybe god will make him one just to fight Uh rags after you watch buffy with moly you should have him watch star trek next generation in return It would be interesting I'd be up for especially because it has uh both great and terrible episodes Hey, it's just like buffy And because they're all sort of self-contained stories for the most part you could uh no time limit on them It's not like you have to get them taken care of before you forget Good day all looking forward to watching this trifecta of smooth brains after work. Happy new year Happy new year to you It's gonna be a great one like I said hundred percent certain of that I mean a good year good things will happen. I will retract this the second something tragic happened Betty white doesn't count Uh, you are on stage in front of 1.2 billion people as you accept your efap award Who do you thank the queen tony abbott wilford brimley etc? Uh, I would just thank the the fans at that point instead of any particular, um meme That's a legitimate question Though maybe the dawn would get a special mention. He really is the patron saint I don't know any different answers there or All right, I just want to say I gotta go but how do I how do I do? Uh, oh, there's uh, is the red the red button there I know Big red button press it press that red button. Well, I mean, thank you so much for joining us again Hopefully you had some fun and uh, there should be a link to your channel in the description if people are curious About what you get up to and just for the sake of it, but if there isn't don't worry about it Uh, what do you um, if you want to tell people what you get up to why they should maybe check you out How about that? Oh, I guess um Um Let's talk about just movies and games. That's pretty much it Gotta work out what I want to do for this new year Anything around idea wise. What is your most controversial opinion? controversial opinion Yeah I don't know. I guess you just end me something for you to leave on you know to get people thinking Uh, halo infinites campaign is That's the most controversial thing What you got for most controversial? I don't know. I don't have much I'm sorry But um, um, all right Yeah, see you later. Yeah, man. See you around. Bye. Bye. Needles. Ciao Down to me. I'm representing all the animals True unless Fringy is a pelican Fringy is a bird. Yes a nondescript bird. That's why he wears the mask Uh, Fringy's a little bit Fringy do yourself a huge favor mute yourself for just two minutes and listen to pistol grip by liquid Richard And then come back and report your findings No, I'm good. They're talking about wings I don't know. All right. Okay. No, I'm good liquid Richard his wings. Yeah, that's a nickname he has Look, how dare I ask did he get the nickname of liquid Richard? I think more was already mentioned it before Or something to do with things that I yeah, I would rather If we don't need to talk about Okay. All right Uh, I'm telling you Fringy you won't regret it liquid Richard is triple s tier trolling He's an actual music producer and all his albums are modular bangers I don't have any lighter All righty then Hi everyone and rags. How are you all how are you massives today? I'm doing great I'm doing all right. I'm a bit tired But other than that, I'm a okay. We got a lot talked about today. I feel pretty satisfied with our I don't like this man. This is so subtle Hmm I'm so very subtle What is You are tired I can tell because you said that you're tired But moreover you are thoroughly satisfied with uh What we've talked about thereby implying that there's no need to press on No, no, I'm glad I'm satisfied with the e-fap that we've done in terms of our coverage Because the three videos we covered were similar yet different True. That's true uh Yeah, and as for me, I just I expected it to be a lot harder today In terms of having to deal with breakdowns of no way home because those films that that film rather has a lot of flaws in it Uh, but yeah between the three of them they brought up zero of them pretty much They barely talked about the film Yeah, so not much worries there uh in terms of trying to argue a favor of anything It was just the standard uncle ben wasn't fucking brutally murdered and uh Well, you can like I said every once in a while you'll expect a new chapter on that because that's just an ever Undying topic on e-fap Um, but I've had fun and there's been some It was fun to compare brown table and high tops ads can't be brown table did so much better Yeah Yeah, fringy thoughts on the simpsons episode taking place in australia also high rags Hello, yeah, that one's great Alrighty, so really good A lot of funny jokes Yeah, it's uh, whenever they go to any country. It's usually a lot of fun I'll have a coffee, please. There it is. No coffee beer coffee be Anything that takes place in australia would have to be animated because it's not real It's real god damn it. I mean you can you can record in america and claim it's australia. I guess the power Do that all the time now Oh The truth comes out No, I mean we do that all the time it's not as it making films Yeah, they do you're right. You know the matrix was filmed uh in australia. Did you know that? You mean america? No here America pretending to be australia pretending to be the matrix How deep is this rabbit hole go? Australia pretending to be america pretending to be the matrix. How hard is it to understand? They they filmed it in america said it was australia to film the matrix So they could say it was in australia probably something related to taxes However, it was actually In the united states of america I just feel like you've gone off the rails here for something that's not that complicated There are no rails where we go on the rails Yeah, we're fast and out of control this crazy train act got no brakes. It also has no rails Oh, I was hoping my little flippie flap would have stopped the falcon punch, but no Now you're dead. I did it. I got I got dead is Get dead Uncle van had his chance true true and he got he had his chance to die and he lost it Uncle ben got fucked up What's the longest thing you've done in the last 72 hours the longest thing I guess this stream Probably this right well editing maybe was that oh wait no you found before I did Is this just the last thing just goes on fucking ever We're sure like because by you know if we go that far the longest thing I've done is be alive for as long as I've been alive Yeah And I guess even longer right because all of the atoms that comprise me date back to the beginning of the universe So in a certain sense we're all 14.3 That's the answer Wait 14.3 was it yeah, it's 14.3 billion years, right? Or am I? Or is it 13.7? Close enough. I'll hand it to you. I mean off by a factor of 600 million years potentially Which is nothing cosmically we've been only four times longer than the dinosaurs existed Which really was quite sure Yeah, it was like a you blink and you miss it. Yeah Let's pour dinos His dark materials is great worth checking out Okay, maybe maybe I asked more of this question before in an old e-fap. So I'll ask everyone else the same Who is your least favorite character in Lord of the Rings? Hmm Saryn he's an evil bastard He wants to take over middle-earth and he's a real jerk I don't like him. Yep. You all agree Um, not right now. I don't know what I can think of really However, I I think in reality, I think it's Denethor. I think Denethor is just He's he's really he's a really bad guy to Faramir and I like Faramir a whole lot So Denethor being a jerk to him when Faramir just wants to You know impress him and show that he's worthy and you know live up to You know being able to be a good son was dad make him proud and his dad's just constantly a dick I uh, I really do not approve of that at all I mean, I have some I have just like things to say that we're supposed to dislike I thought they meant right that doesn't mean they're bad least like Sira and Sira man, man. He was supposed to be the white But he was not white at all And does that upset you guys that he wasn't one does it what it does upset me that he wasn't white Yeah, he didn't wear a mask Yeah, but it's on Not not on him. He never had it on. No, I know I don't wear a mask. I wear a mask is come off Glosses off I wear sunglasses Yeah, sunglasses off Someone said gimli. He left he said to left for an a rot. It's very true It's a very mean thing. Give me a piece of shit, man. He wanted the mold to die Yeah, like that guy short little piece of shit Christ So angry Well, yeah, things he said He was a horrible man But I don't know at least favorite it could very well be like a legolas is closer to the answer. I think they're looking for Well, if we're talking about like major characters, it's like, yeah, I guess I don't but the thing is I don't dislike them I just don't like him as much as like gimli or something Yeah, I've felt to me that gimli had much more going on So if he sounds like the natural well, I think it's just legolas is here as much more closer to that just hero man sort of archetype than uh Then gimli gimli's like more Yeah, and I would say the same for the the hobbits as well Right, like in the sense that Frodo isn't as Like, you know, compared to the other three because they're supporting and so in a certain sense Thoroughly characterised but someone I could see yeah, yeah, Marian Pippen or whatever I'd be like, well, I do quite like Marian Pippen a bit Well, if it was like the Buffy thing, right? Buffy is very well characterised um But in terms of the characters everybody likes the most it's usually some other character who's more Abnormal, I guess in a certain sense. Yeah, that's why it's always interesting to see who people end up picking Because you never know Happy new year if I'm usually watching this or previous nights fnt while working on my model trains I'm wanted to start the new year by giving a boy here. What fun. That's cool egg. Should I add to my layout? also high rags Hello I just find the idea that you make miniature trains really cool. That's a neat hobby That is pretty awesome. And as for an easter egg, maybe a sport or the don could be a passenger. I don't know You could just put little visions of us in there. Uh, whatever you want And uh, yeah, thank you very much Um, it seemed to be very little tiny trains. They probably can't carry that much Well, sure, but it's not about what you carry. It's about the journey I'm sure relatively they carry just the amount you'd expect as much. Yeah Uh My favorite spider-man was when he was a science teacher and married and he had his stuff together Don't see people complain that that is real spidey or not real spidey. Oh my wow Well, I think I think we're exhausted on our discussion of spider-man for today We've done enough. You'll see another chapter of that another time. What's the what else says something that Briggers the fuck out of everyone Um My peter needs to be destitute homeless and sad. Y'all don't understand peter has to suffer the multiversal constant known as dead ben gosh Yep All as well the universe is in a state of dead ben He's just like Fucking hellraiser style just Hit with all these chains screaming in a dark dungeon He's like a source of power for peters throughout the multiverse Fun fact stanley hated a vision of spider-man where uncle ben is still alive while he loved a vision of spider-man where he is a toku satsu hero from the planet spide What From the planet spide, did you say? It's pretty yeah, that's what's said. Just go the planet spide. That's really funny to me He is a man of spide a spider man even Man of spide. Yeah, it would be called man of spide. He is a spide man lost son of spide Or we see he'd be a spideling I don't know New game dinosaur or philosopher so Okay, so diplodocus is first which we all know is dinosaur. Uh, what about prodicus? Prodocus. I'm gonna say he's a philosopher I really don't know I think that's a dinosaur I'm gonna go with philosopher, but uh, I could be convinced of either on that one metrodorus No, like I would do not get the answer. No, I don't have the answer. You can google it All right prodocus, can you spell it? p-r-o-d-i-c-u-s What's the next one? Sorry prodocus was a philosopher All right, the first generation of soaps Uh, next one is metrodorus Metrodorus, I'm gonna go with the dinosaur Let's see metroid dinosaur. Yeah metrodorus Oh metrodorus was a philosopher. Oh, no. Oh, no, we were all wrong on that one This is a drinker The philosopher drinker Yeah dinosaur Oh, yeah, it says here the drinker was a dinosaur. Yep And the last one is frutadens Which is a that's a dinosaur. I'm gonna go dinosaur on that one. I feel like a dinosaur again, but we could be surprised, who knows Yes, frutadens was is the smallest known ornith Ornith fission dinosaur. I thought you were going to say smallest known philosopher Smallest Yeah, they're they're a little bitty They're a little little guys. They're like possum sized adorable That's as in our cans and that's how it's the animal that came to mind when I saw the scale It's like, oh, yeah, it's about the size of possum or a coon I can't help but think that the meta ridley boss in metroid prime 3 was inspired by gandalf and balrog fight since that game has Samus really fighting as they fall down a pit probably Hello, they're pretty neat if it were Wow, it's they're falling down a giant tube and Like samus's jumps on him and like starts shooting him in the face Yeah, gandalf didn't shoot the balrog in the face while falling down He didn't shoot him in the face, but he did jump on him and go like i'm gonna get you Well, that's not a faithful adaptation. So I refuse All right A favorite nolyn movie and why is it memento prestige? It's prestige prestige easily I would see the mentor though You'll get coverage on prestige one day Look forever about how amazing it is. I swear. Hopefully i'm not dead by then But if I am come listen to me and have no hell or whatever I'll talk about nowhere Um, okay, maybe later. All right, fringy. I'll take it. I'm a little surprised you haven't listened to it. Um Yet given how much you know about wings law Um, yeah, sure. But I mean, I I don't know. I'm not like I wouldn't consider myself to be an expert on wings law You're not a wing story. Um Um, no, I wouldn't consider myself a wing story and It's it's hard to keep up when you got other things you gotta be doing true Yeah, that's true When I play melee on dolphin, it slows down at the melee complete screen. How do I fix it? Uh I I fucking mine runs perfectly as far as I can tell so uh look on forums See if they can give you some answers on what you may need to do or try different video back ends That's always a solution or a possible solution Also konnichiwa to the australian chipmunk warlock thing Warlock chipmunk warlock konnichiwa Australian chipmunk warlock thing Konnichiwa, uh japanese spider-man takuya Yamashiro is human his powers come from a device given to him by garia A man from the planet spider not spied The planet spider is stupid Spide was like just so we're clear that so that can't be spider-man No, presumably they're saying that stanley approved of that Um, oh, well, buddy. It's not a dead uncle ben Was the uncle from spy to we're not Did spied blow up like krypton did all of the uncle bends on the planet explode Just the planet of uncle ben a planet of uncle ben's It's a ship filled with uncle ben's and pods Ben had his chance All of the pods all the pods from across the galaxy You know like all the pods shot out and if they landed on a planet that planet would have a spider-man in it Uh, I tried to look up some japanese stereotypes, but I just got ads for toshiba and panasonic Memes aside the music is really good. I listen to them unironically all the time Especially when i'm riding in my v6 salvage mustang to get to wendy's chili Or to get wendy's chili Have you tried wendy's chili rangs? No I'm not a chili guy I'm hot. No, I just don't care chili Uh, have any of you ever scyped What scyped scyped or what if that means skydive and I have not But if skydive means something else then I've also not done that So scyping or scarfing is the process of cutting material often slices usually middle but also leather or laminates Skyving is used instead of rolling the material to shape when the material must not be work hardened. Yeah, I've never scyped Oh, wait scyping also means to be absent from work or school without permission Oh, we've all done that surely Yeah, um I don't think so Wow, okay Wow, fringy Maybe I I I Yeah, I'm a I'm a bad boy. I've scyped before Well, I mean, I never got I not only did I get a whole bunch of attention, but I was also just turned up to a lot of lists I'm boring as fuck right A lot of times when I didn't show up they'd be like no, no, it's fine. It's fine. You're not scum Getting to trouble with like but never it was usually for something that they couldn't punish me for like just who I am Like just being loud or something or I remember that was something that was difficult because like it's hard volume control when you've got like a deep voice Your voice just travels a lot So Yeah, I know and um Hmm Someone in chat said Luke's uncle ben died. So he is technically spider No, he lost aunt may as well. So don't count Yeah, but that was much lighter though. You died. No, they lost him both at the same time, didn't you? Yeah So like spy man fans were watching it and they're like wait a minute. Am I watching an origin for no? No, it's two deaths We're fine No, too. Oh, thank god. We got two skeletons. I repeat guys. We got two skeletons copy two skeletons This is not good spider boy It's not a spider man film. This is a star wars film Sorry, what I meant was the planet spider oopsie also Takusatsu is basically anything like power rangers or Godzilla Oh, what the white that does not help at all Takusatsu is anything like power rangers or Godzilla. That's a pretty That's broad as hell Let me look at that. Let me look at tokusatsu All right, tokusatsu Uh, literally special filming is a Japanese term for live action film or television drama that makes heavy use of special effects So that would be like it says grid man the hyper agent common writer Um then just end game. I guess power rangers Okay super sentai. So it's I guess power rangers is an American adaptation of the Japanese show super sentai But I prefer ours because I can understand the characters and because we can have a character Known as the white power ranger Which you wouldn't be able to make these days Because some people are very sensitive about the white power Me hi top sent me hi That's a nice combo may he reign Uh correction gary's device the spider protector combines spider blood with Takuya's giving him spider powers as well as his suit the show is fun Sounds it is all kinds of things going on Uh, uncle ben is gone is called Ben's originals Are we referencing the rice or are we doing something else? Uncle ben's originals. I'm not sure. Well By the way That is today's super chats all caught up Oh my good. We caught up. We did it. We're likely three videos all the super chats and everything that happened in between Yeah, you know guys that's another one's coming. All right. We'll do an outro I'll read it and then then we will go offline. That's the best way to do it See efficiency What am I gonna say we go so boba fat minis coming out weekly Is one out right now if you might not know about it go watch it myself and fringy worked on it All right, we're gonna be getting them two years straight away because we can't wait to talk about star wars again Um, so with the minis coming out. I doubt we'll do an episode for it unless someone's got a really funny video on it. Um Yeah, maybe we got that um Other than that just normal stuff coming always, you know every wednesday. You'll probably see us pop up So that's something we got to figure out now Yeah, yeah, because because because of fucking boba fat. So boba fat's ruining everything. Fuck boba fat We all hate boba fat right chat. Yeah I hope he just stays in that back to tank forever. Yeah Then he comes out and he's just a fucking pure cue ball just perfect and round really shiny white Very shiny glistening He's just been reduced to a spacial form That's not too many hours in the back to tank do Turn you into a cue ball Um, out of curiosity, how did you get as good at measuring objective quality in film? I got to learn it also bonjour to the australian komodo Uh, I guess I get oh obviously me, but I suppose this is also a question for you guys as well um, I think it's just oddly enough practice Learning to be aware of identifying things awareness is a huge part of it and a willingness to Express the things that you actually see trying not to give Not too much of a benefit of the doubt, but not to go too far against it either unfairly It's uh, it's it's like a process and you just got to practice it and hone it And be able to identify the components is um, a very important part of that I'd say i'm an oldy bit of goody that can be utilized feel benefit, but there's you know like the whole Uh, know what you don't know That can be useful in the sense that when stuff tells you stuff is the case Sometimes just think about it as though they have no fucking clue what they're talking about And I think about it for a second. No, it's like claudica said that No, it was a dinosaur that said that but uh, I think It can be very helpful in making you go wait a minute actually when they just tell you something is the case um Have that little bit of a little bit of skepticism about what is everything supposed to be and stuff Um, you know, it's it's tough to say there's all kinds of advice one could give but um, um I think a big thing would be I I mean, I don't really describe it as measuring objective quality I feel like it's more just anytime that you think something's good or bad Try to justify it to yourself Like or or you know, think about whether you have a justification for that beyond just like a gut feeling So like if you say I like this Think about how you can expand that a bit more beyond maybe like one sentence of like, yeah, this is good You know, this is good character development. Like why just ask yourself why and then try and find an answer And think about what was in the film that you can reference Hopefully that was helpful Japanese only has single sounds for each letter a equals ah i equals e u equals u equals eh o equals oh asnh jtm z g d and y are all hard pronunciations um My screen Oh you together is a long o hopefully this helps ringy is wrong Yeah, no, we already established that though, so you don't need to say it again But you're wrong. Well, I mean sometimes it's for a three stating just so you don't forget I don't worry. I'll never forget all right I'll never live this episode down. You don't need to remind me Whatever when I die on my gravestone. Just put freaky was wrong. Yeah, and I knew it And he knew that he knew Maybe just say freaky relish to being wrong. Yeah, I love it I baited I baited wrong being wrong The first time freaky was correct. You fucking died The first time freaky was correct predated the existence of reality as we know it First time uncle ben survived. He died. Yeah, that's right. This is the multiverse where ben lived I look at what happened if you've connected it all into the tba They were melting out the bands that didn't die On account of ben's survival, there is no spider-man And tell metal to stream more often. He's currently on like a holiday of sorts, so he will stream when he's back. Do not worry And um, yeah with that We shall see you all the next time we see you all it's been a lot of fun Thank you for joining us and thank you for the donations if I shall return. We'll probably see a Wednesday Um, if not, we'll just see you the following saturday. Good night everybody. Goodbye. All right. Yeah, see you later. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye