 Kenshan and the question will be now you were quoted having said that traveled 14 knows not You are fully employed and pundit Yes! Of course we have seen a lot of name that have been asotted in terms over the people that are whatcie mdike interest to contest the president although others are still using diplomacy I in terms of whether or not they are available or not we have one who member as well as a many as well as brand Munduli we will quote ab inter smiting as well So, Dr. Tajishimba Kambili msuf that have made themselves available to take over the pedodic front. And well, among us to all these individuals for you, you've singled out President Tajishimba Kambili, that he doesn't qualify to be PF president. You were quoted. Are those your words? Yes, but let me just put it in context. I didn't single him out. I think he does not correct. I was responding to a question by a reporter. Right. Okay? I was responding to a question by a reporter. Right. So, in my contextualizing the question, or my answer rather, I said to the young reporter, I have seen this hala balu within PF, because that question was coming on the heels of the dissolution of the Lusaka Provincial Committee and how they rioted about it. I watched the clip on the social media and the vice president, sorry, beg your pardon, the vice chairman. No, the vice chairman. The vice chairman of the province was saying, or the dissolved province was saying, I have a right to support Shimbaka Kambili as a presidential candidate. That's my democratic right. And other people also have their democratic right to support somebody else. Fair comment. The point I was making was this, that under the electoral regulations of PF, as I know them, unless they have changed, Shimbaka Kambili does not qualify. Why? Because he is not eligible to be a delegate at the general conference. Why? Because he doesn't hold any position in the structures of the party from which delegates to the general conference are drawn. That's all that I was saying. And I was surprised that if officials at the level of the province do not understand the rules of the party, including the electoral rules, isn't that the reason why there is so much confusion in the party? So now that you have mentioned those other names, Emanu Omama does not qualify because he doesn't hold a position in any party structure or organ. Bizwe Omutari does not qualify because to be chairman of mobilization is not the mobilization committee is not a party organ. And you saw this with my young brother KBF. He made so much noise. Even he told his supporters you see if he am not allowed to attend the general conference, I obtained an injunction. Did he? He didn't. Because he came to realize that he is not eligible to stand. That was the only point I was making. So the backlash, let me make a point. The backlash I saw from the Kambili supporters was insulting me, falling short of insulting my mother who is not even a politician. You know they spent the whole of yesterday using Kambili's talk time, I'm sure. You know? Only, only, only what? That may be, may be, may be not. And the point is this, I'm just a messenger. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just telling them what the rules say. I'm just stating a rule. If I'm wrong, what I expect them to say is you have forgotten the rules. The rules have actually changed now. That anybody who walks past the Mungush International Conference Center assuming that the PF Geno Conference is taking place at the Mungush Conference Center and there is a banner there showing the PF Geno Conference that anybody who drives past that can just stop and check and say, what's going on here at the Geno Conference, we have a PF. Then you know they turn into Mungush Conference Center, go and find the chaplain in charge of the elections and say nomination paper, but you know therefore you're president. Can't you see chaos? Which institution runs like that? Not even the Republican Party in the United States, not even the Democratic Party in the United States to be voted for as a Republican candidate in the United States. You must be a member of the Republican Convention. You can't just come from a shop right and say the nearest place is Mungush Conference Center. That's the point I'm making. So instead of losing breath on insulting me, put forward an argument. Where are you drawing your argument to yourself because From the little rules? You've mentioned that you are not in the PF as much as we know, you are a leader of a different political party. The question is, where are you drawing all this explanation in terms of, of course, I know you were a former SG in the pedodic front and the rules could have changed. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm being very charitable and withdrawn. I'm being extremely charitable and withdrawn. I'm saying if the rules have changed, don't forget that I convened as Secretary General of the Party, I convened the June 2011 General Conference. That's my question because I've got the constitution here. So what are you trying to say when you say you are drawing your argument from the electoral rules? Yes. Please just explain further on that. There is a booklet, there's a booklet which is entitled the PF Electoral Regulations which feeds into the constitution which was approved by the Central Committee of the Party when was that? during my time. And I've tried to ask around. In fact, I started making these inquiries during the time of KBF. I said to people in PF, have you had new rules formulated apart from those that were formulated during my time? As they said, no. We're still using the same rules. So that gives me comfort that my argument is correct. That my submission is right. The point I'm making is that the levels of intolerance in PF are just the same as the levels of intolerance in UPND that they want to be glorified they want to be idolized they don't want to hear the truth. Now the truth is something that you can change. I don't have a factory where I can go and change the truth into falsehood. I don't run such a factor. So I just state the truth as it is. It may come to you with a bad taste in your mouth but it is true. And the truth here is that unfortunately and sadly enough he can cross the country he is not eligible. His name won't find itself in the register of the general conference. He will not be a delegate and he won't even walk through the gate into the general conference. That's what I know. Together with Imano Mwamba Bwonsi chabe Bwonsi What is needed for them to qualify as reparent parcel of the delegation? They should go to the SG and ask that. I'm not an SG. Let them go to the SG and say Bwana, come to the SG I want to stand myself what should I do. The SG will guide them. To start insulting the SG is not what is going to help them. To start calling the SG is not what will help them. To start threatening he say and say but president to hali michi indikasana nomba mwamana tam pati nomba tam piokumisarula you know. That's ridiculous. That just shows you the levels of indisplim in this political pad called PF. When they were eating with Edgar Lungu they were licking his shoes and today they are eating from somebody else and they want to start demeaning and start verifying Edgar. Just shows you the crop of human beings and why this party cannot stand. It's because of those levels of indisplim and it just shows you why many people are leaving PF today to come to the rainbow party. They can't stand. This kind of indisplim.