 Thanks for staying with us now according to Sahara reporters the actress Jokersilva had on Monday posted a video of herself the legal state first lady be Jokersangulu and other dancing and others rather dancing and waving brooms the all-progressive Congress party symbol on her Instagram page. Now Silver wrote that it was time to meet up with the governor's wife who is her fellow holy child college old girls alumni right now on the Monday rally came few days after the actress was announced as a member of the women's wing of Tinambo's presidential campaign council. Silver and Sylvia is or Jokersilva rather is the she is to head the creative and entertainment industry committee of the council the pictures and the videos however didn't go well with our obedient supporters supporters of Peter will be who have since chained out heavy criticisms against silver and today we are curious about this Peter will be movement and we are asking do ninjas even have freedom to choose differently because it seems like anybody that just comes out to declare another candidate there's a cultural fight I will follow you I block you I do this that's what you see there's a lot going on on social media right now please I want to beg you before look at the show and think about what everybody's gonna say objectively we are not here to fight we believe in having decent conversations right so please let's make our conversations very decent and our contributions as well let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 08-1-803-4663 you can also tweet at us at Weisshow Africa one with a hashtag Weisshow all right so there's a lot of my mind that I want to say about this topic but first today I want to hear your thoughts first there's a Peter movement there's a Peter will be movement and there is a trend online that it seems like anybody that comes out to declare some level of support for another candidate it's like it's a taboo you have committed you know the young people especially because we try to speak to our our own we are the ones like fighting shouting and going all out I am not saying that other party candidates do not have supporters that do same yeah but because ways is targeted at young minds and we are focusing on talking to ourselves as the youth right I want to understand why it is not okay for people to come out and declare who they want to support why are we not giving people that freedom to choose now you are smiling so it seems like online there are so many supporters for Peter will be you should know that the youth dominate social media and who are the youth supporting Peter will be so I think it's natural for us to see that but a question today is do my entrance have freedom to choose differently yeah so they have freedom oh so I'm going to cite an example just this last weekend I had my electrician come in to help me do some electrical work and just because I'm the most I talking I was supposed to go to the island market that morning so and we just dive into politics and we just don't normally I'm not to bed this time around so involved yes I'm so conscious about that's what Peter will be has done a lot of young people which is a good thing because a lot more young people are more conscious now discussing politics go ahead so he told me his preferred candidate and I was shocked because as a young person knowing what is going on and having some information on ground I also have my own candidate in mind so I was surprised why he was talking about yes so and I took three hours trying to make him see reasons with me why this candidate which is my is the preferred candidate but at the end of the day so he also came up with his own point why he is going to know you know still I will sit and but why is he not seeing things from my own perspective right at the end of that was like okay I summarized by saying well we have a past we have people that have been there in the past we know what they can do but this person we see him like the future someone that we don't know his potential yet we want to we want to find out yes so that is the reason why willing to risk it so it's more or less like we are trying to risk it this time around just something new something we feel like it's different yes so I feel like that's the same thing that's going on online right so people have freedom to choose but because of the fact so I see the youths currently they are like you know there's this adage what an elder can see sitting there the youths in social media are now the elders do you understand what I'm trying to say so we've switched roles that's just what is going on so we're trying to tell some people that are going for people that are against our choice to say this is what we are seeing can't you see what we are seeing why you know understanding what we're trying to say so that's why it's almost like they're attacking other people that are supporting other candidates I like let me hear your thoughts why did you adjust it's not that serious the there's really no freedom of choice when we're trying to make a decision per se you can say who you want to who your preferred candidates but we feel as Nigerians that we're at a crossroads of is it that we get it right or we're messed up for life because if we get it wrong this time we run the risk of having that continuity of the same old same old for another eight years and then we don't we lose hope like I kept saying if it shows over and over again that there's a fire burning in the ashes of the youth right now and if they don't get who they believe will make a difference maybe the fire will go out and they won't be able to bring it together four years time eight years time people have the freedom like the Antijochist over has the freedom to choose who she wants to vote for the people that are complaining the major general that said that people were not killed at the end says is the one that has joined the team of this people being that you people are because of him fighting everybody at the end of the day there are no permanent enemies and there are no permanent friends when it comes to politics when America was running the campaign and Trump was a candidate there were so many people that were blacklisted anybody that was a public figure celebrity someone that people were supporting with their money and their business they just started blacklisting them one by one even the ones that offered to sing and the inauguration lost business because people were like you're just selling us out we don't know when we're going to get a chance again for a change this is exactly what is happening here like you said the only reason why everybody maybe not everybody but a large majority of youths are making noise about people bees we've seen you people the other two major candidates be in government decades upon decades one way or the other you've infused yourself in government whether you were sitting there or you were playing godfather isn't you've always been involved and we haven't seen any changes you guys have been doing things business as usual we just want something new like you say when you say about these not necessarily the messiah we don't know but we just want something new if I've been like they say you're rather if you've been trying if you've tried to husband's houses that's where you know which one you prefer because I said Nigeria has always complained when they have the benefit of her inside that if we had no maybe we would have left it as it was but we won't know we want to take it okay so I I took note of some keywords that both of you had mentioned you said you are willing to take a risk and lady you said that we can't afford to make a mistake because if we do make a mistake it means that another eight years to eight years we will be in a death situation and maybe by the end of that 80 a 10 year we might have lost hope now I get that part and I get that fear but great decisions are never made out of fear right I'm taking my time to study almost good majority of the presidential candidates that have been coming out right there are other candidates right less popular but they have so much content right inside of them right so I need us to be careful and you see because I mean you rightly said it evil was created for a reason and you become a master when you are able to lord over evil you have the ability to govern and counsel evil so for the young people that are shouting that how can he appoint somebody that said we and what's he called the answers shooting and all of that we have was photoshopped why would he be part of the presidential campaign that means you're not ready you do not understand governance you do not understand politics 90 young people are always thinking and this is where I need them to understand that it's not about attacks because you perceive this person to be a good person for you to be able to govern a country like Nigeria you must have both evil and good inside of you yes I must be able to know when to bring what out you cannot be a goody two shoes to be able to govern this country and neither can you be a purely evil person you must have both of them inside of you and if you're not able to what's he called what's he called lord over and govern evil and good then you're not even a president material in this country because where we have gotten to in Nigeria it has gotten so deep that it is going to be very very very tough for whoever sits on that's that is going to sit on that chair it's going to be very tough and what happens down the line let us say play our cards fast forward to 2023 a Peter will be emerges as the president and all of that and things start to go south what happens this same youth will now come and start shouting so that's why I want us to give people opportunity to express themselves freely let's not feel like because I have said because you kept on saying something why can't you see it the way I'm seeing it I've had this argument with some people and somebody was saying that it's like this person is not in the same country that I mean no now if I tell you that what you is in front of you is a white so it is a red plaque you would argue with me that is white because if you look at it from your own angle it is pure white I am seeing red you are seeing white so we should learn that perspective what's called perspective matters I can see things I can choose to see things differently but that doesn't make it that I am wrong now did your module also was on Twitter and there was a lot of backlash because he came out of course his everybody now knows that he's clearly supporting what's called the APC party right and people are saying you're a sell out your ideas your dad have you bothered to ask why he's choosing to understand this because again if you understand how how the political game in Nigeria is played you cannot rule out anybody's choice because they have seen things that you are not privy to right so I mean that's where I need the youths to be a bit like step back a bit and let us have a conversation so you have taken your time you've explained to your electrician and he then comes back and tells you that this is still the candidate I'm sticking to let's respect his opinions let's respect his choices let's respect their options and this goes to the to all political parties because now why we are having this conversation and I'll tell you why if things do not go the way people expected to go come 2023 if we do not understand and respect tolerance and understand people's choices we will go thank you and that is why a lot of people are leaving the country saying that they will be back on April they'll be back after the elections because now people are not seeing that capacity to tolerate another person's choice and if we continue at this trajectory that we're going that it is it's either my way or no way at all we are going to I am telling you we are going to have a war in this country after the elections yep and this is why we are trying to be proactive early enough to start to tell people calm down and just tolerate other people's choices so that's why I hope with this viewpoint of mine like he said the major thing we should start happening on now is tolerance for people's expressions of what their preferences are because I didn't see that way until you said it maybe I thought about it but I didn't see that way until you said it that if we have a very high intolerance for accepting other people's choices we run the risk of having a revolution a war a disturbance where military may even have to come and take over again in 2023 when they say that we're being unruly and we don't want that we want a land of peace we have been able to by the grace of God have peace in Nigeria even with everything we've experienced looking at it from different perspectives the red spots that we can see both of us can see that you can't see from here but you know that is there is the same reason why some people would choose a tin or a an article over an OB we you know now the red is there whether or not you can see it here from experience and from dealing with that over the years you know what to expect they know the game players I mean the players in the game they speak each other's language because I would they've said it there the ones that taught me that phrase no permanent enemies no permanent friends it's whoever is seeing things my way at any particular point in time because we've seen them change parties over and over again so by the same token they choose teams almost like they're playing football just for the camaraderie of the excitement that comes with politics because if we only had one choice there will be no need for elections we will have a dictatorship so they they if you're going with a PC let me stand on the PDV side brother you'll be surprised that they're eating together they'll be telling one another let's see who's going to win me the best man win at the same time amongst themselves they have or not amongst thieves they understand the game they understand the language I've seen a picture where abacha a Buhari not yeah Buhari Babangida I think like six people that have gone into running coups in Nigeria one after the other sat down together playing cards back in the day these people know one another their friends and they speak the same language we should just try as much as possible to try to convince you when we're trying to win votes over I'll leave it there but let's take a break because I would like to open our phone lines I really want to hear your thoughts about this you know and how do we manage the expectations of young people and how do we start to consciously put it in the minds of people that we have to get to that point where we tolerate another person's choice now stay with us over right back all right thanks for staying with us now if you just tuned in it's our ladies night out and we're discussing the PTOB movement we're asking do Nigerians have freedom to choose differently now please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 08-1 803-4663 you can also tweet at us at Weishaw Africa one with the hashtag Weishaw now our phone line is now open remember we're just here to have a conversation let's try to keep it very civil the number to call is 070-2507749 that's the number to call 070-2507749 and remember to turn off the volume of your television set or whatever it is that you're watching us from all right so we have a few comments if you can quickly just take it yes one says good evening my beautiful ladies for me I'm choosing my own presidential candidate and that is PTOB because I want something different Sam from OTTA thank you Sam go ahead this is from someone says here no name all the noise about OB is only Lagos let OB go and campaign in Anambra the states he came from then someone said let's compare Anambra of OB and Lagos of Tinubu the difference is clear nothing like war you win you govern you lose you go home so I hear that part where he says that nothing like war if you win you govern if you lose you go home but what happened when there was a lot of agitation for the NSAS movement what eventually happened where we started having looting you did not understand or you cannot even understand what we went through especially for those who was country at the time yes no for those of us here in Lagos you can't even understand what we went through a lot of commune a lot of estates started gathering money just to keep those people out of their estates people were going into people's homes looting and all of that malls were being looted and so it that is how it starts so you cannot you see that's where I think I have a problem with people do not trivialize people's agitations right the young people today are agitated and that is why you see a lot of you call it noise but there's a lot of talk going on everywhere right so that is it is a show of agitation people are tired and I really beg our leaders especially the older leaders the older generation do not trivialize the pain of the young people we talked about mental health yesterday how people just shove it right do not trivialize their pain we understand it because I am in my past mid-30s now you know I was being told as a child that read your book whatever future the you are the future leader tomorrow I grew up I'm still not a leader now there are young people there that we have told the same so it's almost like you have lied to us over the years so when I'm saying that there is agitation agitation yeah it is a valid agitation so when I hear comments like that you are trying to trivialize you're trying to just brush it aside I beg me to sit down and don't let it talk and that in itself is what eventually now causes these kinds of what's it called unrest civil unrest that we are talking about go ahead so I understand the needs for tolerance right so even when I had the conversation that Saturday I ended by saying if this is your choice that's fine but this is the reason why I'm talking about this person I was trying to guide it around what I looked at the developed economies what are the borders the guidelines for good corporate for good governance so I ended by saying that so but I feel like in terms of what's going on on social media and people going after people because of their choices so the youths they expect something from some certain category of people right for example some celebrities who they feel like relates to what they are talking about and feel like these people are supposed to be up there like supporting us you know giving us the energy to go on so if they get a different response from those kind of people that is what causes that but obviously I understand the need for us at the end of the day we still have to respect each other's choices but I should not also stop us like if you believe in something you know this thing is really good though even you will you will preach about it now it's natural right it's just not to go to the S-stream right that's just what we're saying okay so we're talking extreme sorry I'll let you come in when we are talking extreme I've seen comments right on social media they say I know where you live I am coming to your house right so people are doing all of that but we have Hassan on the call thank you Hassan for joining us this evening hello hi Hassan you're live hello go ahead you're live hi good evening very well thank you yeah yeah I would like to comment on particular may I say topic of today go ahead please when people are beginning to say issue of youth, youth, youth I don't think there is any set of youth that are preventing youth from participating in any political activities whenever a youth organize themselves in a mature way and now growing those elder I think the elder will allow them to participate but when we begin to say no youth, youth, enter, enter, enter I think it will be the result of enter when you look at it it's not positive on the side of the youth because they could not organize themselves properly now when you look at this but particular election that is coming up now some people announce shifting their mind that we should elect youth, youth, youth I don't think it's the wrong thing it's supposed to be right once if we have an elderly person who lead us then we too will follow their push instead of saying that youth, youth, youth, youth and nobody is preventing youth to participate when you look at our mood of racism the way we talk the way we visit that's why the elderly people will not allow to participate in all that thing I think I've gotten the crux of what you said thank you so much Hassan I like what he is trying to say because which is also part of you see this council culture it's also part of what we're talking about you can't just say I want to say my mind you go blunt and all of that even the terminologies you use so I get where Hassan is coming from comport yourself you must have that decorum you must be able to say I can stand anywhere amongst elders amongst the younger generation you can't be assertive without being insulted which is what I see a lot of attacks it's like so we need to calm ourselves down but let it go ahead back to the point he made which is exactly what I got from it as well if we comport ourselves a little bit better the adults will probably listen to us and listen to us and maybe see things from our perspective because we're acting like unruly kids at the moment but then again talking about the celebrities and them joining and being public figures and seeming as if they're disappointing the youths Chris Brown sang a song and in the song he said how can you hate when you're outside the club they're just trying to be in the club some of them have good intentions and they realize that if we don't get involved we can't make any changes by just screaming outside the club we have to participate with them we know that they're not the first choices but they say even if evil has a way of doing God's bidding sorry I'm not done even if it has a way of doing God's bidding so I think the fair and you say we can't speak from a place of fair but we have to speak from a place of experience let me not call it fair we've heard people say we want to take part so that we can make a change we hear your voices we know what you want and then they get there and it's as safe once they get there there's an injection they give them and they start doing exactly what we were all complaining about and continue where their forefathers left off and we don't even know who is youth and who's not youth the young ones that have been there to go and party I was going to say that I think I have Charles on the phone then I'll come back to Charles to your live good evening Noah thank you for calling so I'll speak personally for myself well the thing is that the reason why sometimes when you look at people although you get disappointed in the choice of people the choice people have made regarding who they are supporting the reason why sometimes you get disappointed is you look at the way the country has been governed the past seven years for instance now if somebody is supporting the APC I want to say ok if you're supporting the APC you'll be surprised why is this person supporting the APC look at the way the country has been governed in the past seven years do you think this post should be given an opportunity to come back to security look at the economy look at the issue of asset strike for the past seven months school has been shut down what kind of reasonable government do that kind of thing so if you look at the issue of inflation look at the cost of things in the market you put all those things together and you see somebody supporting the APC you'll be having disappointed and that's why sometimes when you try to talk and the person is not listening to you you'll be like hello this person is this person in this country so that's why most of the time people get disappointed because I don't think APC has already done very well I don't see somebody coming back to command and if put differently APC present a better candidate you'll be like ok maybe you want to give them a try but this one the person they present he said to me personally I don't see him as a viable candidate he might even look good look at the other day when he was talking he was saying something about assurance is here security is here sometimes when he talks he's not coherent but the issues NBA he didn't attend some of the programs that have been he hasn't even talked to the public he hasn't talked to the press so how do you not tell me about the kind of candidates I mean if anybody is supporting APC as soon as I'm consigned thank you so I was going to say that because again this is also tying to why Banki W at first when he joined the PDP there was a lot of backlash that why would he join the PDP it was just to piggyback to what Lady had said about joining the club you have to be inside the government to be able to effect any form of change so I get that part but there's also a place where people must understand that there are systems there are structures in place that must be put well structured for certain things to happen especially when it comes to leadership in Nigeria, governance but let me take Loma then I'll finish up my point Loma your life okay good evening good evening yeah long man from APC go ahead please with the question that you have just thrown for us it is only a hypocrite that will not take his time especially in this present dispensations it's only a hypocrite somebody who in the morning in this party in the night but if you standing in your ground maintaining what you believe in and you have an ideology and you believe in that ideology I'm telling you nothing will make it democracy we want the freedom of choice and in that freedom of choice I cannot because I have to benefit something from you in this party benefit something from you Loma can I ask you a question I ask you a man that will give me something that will last long okay thank you I decide for a shift of ground he's missing the point we want to ask a question Loma if you can hear me right I'm saying that it is okay for you to have freedom to choose I'm saying that would you also be kind enough to respect other people's choices because now what we're seeing is almost every time somebody else comes to choose something differently I hear that part people are believing that oh it's like you're not in the same country that we are in this country how can you be even thinking about the idea of choosing a candidate or maybe an APC or APDP or whatever anything you know so I get that part but can we be can we allow other people to just choose who they feel like choosing differently and have peace okay see let me talk to you I heard your question this is exactly what the fact is if you say you are not forbidden you will see that some people will if you say you're believing another person and not forbidden they will be attacking you this is what I wanted me as a person is I will allow somebody to make his or her choice but some people I don't want to I want to use this video as a video which if somebody says he's not supporting your vision don't attack in that region use it in some foreign languages thank you not everybody will support your vision not everybody will support your vision everybody has freedom of choice thank you thank you answer my question because what I was now saying was when Bank of W had moved to the PDP because he saw that he had a better chance there because he really did well in the previous round that he did so imagine he is now going to a more structured party that had a lot more spread what do you think would eventually happen to his his ambition for going into the house of representation of course it would definitely because now he has a bigger support I get the party in all of these parties right be it NNPP, be it PDP be it APC or labor party all of these parties they have both evil and good people inside of them even your labor party that everybody is thinking is in misery that would happen and all of that we all have evil people there so we must understand that principle see once we understand that principle we will not be disappointed if anything happens and again we will then go back to strategize because what you used to win an election is strategy you do not use emotions you do not use sentiments but let me take Charles again I think there is another Charles from somewhere Charles you are live from a border hello go ahead you are live Charles hello good evening good evening go ahead I just joined up for Charles I listened to the past the last speaker before the one that just ended his talk you see we are getting a lot of things from here and the way we are doing about it we can never get it wrong because anything with phase of sentiment and emotions it can never happen anywhere like we see we are see blaming party this is not the issue of party before I through to your program I was on CNN when the committee that was set up to probe probe administration was set up and I can see that about 20 months all of them both republican and democrat they all supported the probe was invited to come and give accounts of what had happened if at this time yes we may have how many 60 years of PDP we are not satisfied with gross ADC but can we tell you that the problem is not about the party if we are talking about how to move the Nigeria forward we should talk about individual we are putting phase in mind the second last column was talking about you know I don't think that's supposed to come off here we also the same people thank you so much Charles I think he just summed up what I was trying to say yes it's not even about it's not about propaganda right when we start to do all this antagonistic approach you are losing focus you understand there's a strategy to winning politics there's a strategy to success in political games and every young person needs to go back to the drawing board and understand those strategies and suppose focusing on what's he called that's how this person is you know let's leave all of those things but sorry I think I have a call today not today Peter is in Peter you are alive go ahead Peter are you Peter Obiti yes go ahead you are alive hello good evening good evening go ahead that's called from protocols that is my own issue that I normally have because I too I have my own country I find it difficult that if some people should post a particular party it's a thing that can be bad but to some people they are good it is only to you that I learned that okay thank you so much go ahead quickly we have to take comment yes I wanted to say that if we woke up tomorrow and for some reason it became a case of Tinumbu had decap to PDP and he was now the presidential candidate with PDP do you know people who still follow him so it's not so much APC and PDP he is the person and the reason why a lot of them are supporting them is because they've chopped from underneath this government listen to it please very quickly 30 seconds Yoruba has a saying that says Oluwoma jasikoto un jamu no wen meaning that is because you are gaining from him Oluwoma jasikoto do you understand the logic people say Tinumbu has made a lot of men he has put them in positions and powered people if Tinumbu told them tomorrow we are going to PDP people will vote PDP which means they are voting for the person but the reason I am scared about a Tinumbu is because of his age let's take you are still playing the sentiments that I don't want to say youngest old man are we leaving in one minute today they are hot I am really happy about the whole situation everybody is trying to prove to all that I have something to say but all I want is that in this election coming we should vote wisely some people are so annoying I am not the person that I respect your own opinion there is some fun that is done in Na'ev you get to hear somebody go the reason is because of the country and they still tell you to vote for the person and see if he is blind about what is happening in the country but you want to tell me that I want to vote somebody because I am giving you money I can understand you I can understand you but you can't tell me to vote somebody because of the situation on ground because of my ability to become but some people are so annoying and they want to vote somebody because they want very expensive we are giving you money we are being used to so calm down so let me quickly take you there welcome my dear thank you to me I will choose differently no point deceiving myself and everyone, Peter Obie is my choice and candidate and nothing more people who I hold in high esteem and respect are in so much in a hurry and trust me the people that vote to power when he is there and fails to deliver they will be the first to condemn him PDP started our problem and APC continued killing us to me PDP and APC should be scrapped let us try something else enough is enough my name is Daniel Ilo Yawizreglafa Obie has what it takes to rule Nigeria physically and economically Nigerians don't need any person above 70 years go ahead greetings ladies Nigerians have the right to vote for any candidate they want about the actors don't mind them because most of them are not politicians but are paid to do their job which is acting film as campaign from Angola thank you so much ladies I think we had a fantastic conversation sorry we couldn't take all the calls time is always not on our side now before we go and show you follow us on Instagram follow us everywhere if you want to interact with us further drop a comment most importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation if you missed this very important quote here it is again respecting others opinion doesn't mean being untrue to your own it is just you learning the act of tolerance we'll see you guys tomorrow at 8pm also bring another great conversation to your screen enjoy