 What's up everyone? Welcome to the Sunday night recap presented by FanDuel. I'm your host Simon joined as always by my beautiful and occasionally frozen co-host Jay, Josh and John Luke. What's up boys? What up? What's going on? We got a figure gun and a wink from JL. It must be a special kind of Sunday to get a finger gun from you. Every single stream, buddy. Have I never noticed the finger guns before? Never noticed. Every single stream? Every single time. I'm so sorry. I just get so nervous about screaming at the beginning that I don't even look at you. What about when you copy my dance moves? Sometimes I copy your dance moves. It's usually after the finger guns. Boom into dance moves. It's in the game. Guys, welcome in to the Sunday night recap presented by FanDuel. As I said, we are here today to break down the Sunday slate of games. And man, was this a big slate? This was the biggest slate of the season. There was no Thursday night football, no Saturday football and no buys this week. We had all but two teams in the NFL plan on this Sunday. So we've got a lot to get through today. Before we start, guys, I want to remind everyone watching, if you are watching this, that means you are already on the FanDuel YouTube or Twitch channels. If you're on YouTube, hit like on this video and subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube. And if you're on Twitch, hit that follow button. There is a whole team of incredible content creators here at FanDuel helping you win your leagues and win some money. And hopefully we've got some people in the chat today that can let us know they won their leagues. I'm sure there's some people that know already. But make sure you're following FanDuel on TikTok, on Twitter, on YouTube, on Twitch, at FanDuel and all of these places, Instagram as well at FanDuel to make sure you're getting all of this content. And Jail, yeah, I would say sorry, but hopefully you're going to be me. Uh, Simon's been my booty. But I don't want to jinx it. We're not, we're not over yet. Not till 0-0-0 on Monday nights. ESPN has me as a 50% chance of winning this trophy right now. Oh, you're screwed. Oh, wow, that's crazy. You're absolutely screwed. I am 99% to win my home league, but I will not believe it until it's 0-0-0. Saying there's a chance. We got C-Ros in here. Hi, welcome in. That's my niece, Carly. Hey, Carly. Hi, Carly. Welcome in. And Brian said I didn't lose. Woo-hoo! Oh, that's not the chosen rose. Now, our punishment for our home league was you have to do the Waffle House challenge. And he was in that game. So one of my other buddies, Ryan, has to stay in Waffle House for 24 hours. That's heinous. And that's mom. Hi, mom and dad. Hey, mom. Looks like the whole family's here. I saw a league where they have a punishment for last place and the guys tied. They tied and they have the Waffle House challenge. So they're like, should we make them both do it? And that's what they're doing. They're making them both do it. It was decimal scoring. Wow. Hi, Colin. Hi, Colin. It's crazy. I mean, I show all the screenshots and everything. That's fantastic. It's almost better than people tying in like the championship, right? Like last place. It's better than them tying in the championship. Exactly. Also, Mr. Mr., welcome in. Glad to have you guys here. Guys, like I mentioned, we have a full slate of games to get through today. So I want to jump straight in to the Sunday night football game. And we have a very important comment first, though. Albert coming in. Penny, he's Dynasty wide receiver one. Get it right, Albert. Penny Dynasty wide receiver number one. Rashad Penny on that one. Guys, our Sunday night football game tonight is coming up. And it is between the Minnesota Vikings and the Green Bay Packers. Josh, do you have our fan dual sportsbook lines for this game? Absolutely. I was looking at it coming into the show. The Minnesota Vikings are 13 point underdogs going into Green Bay. So obviously the Packers are 13 point favorites. For me personally, I am taking the Packers minus 13. And I wanted to get your guys's opinion on this. Me personally, I think the Packers will win 30 to 13. So the over-under is 41 and a half. If you do the math, 30 plus 13 is 43. So I'm also taking the over there, but it's close on the over-under. But I really think the Packers dominate this game. So 30 to 13 for me. I'm taking Packers minus 13. Jay, what do you think? What do you think? With you, I think the Packers win big, especially with Kirk Cousins out with COVID. I'm going to go slightly under the over-under. I'm going to go 27-10 Packers. So that'll make it a 37 point over-under. And it's a 41 and a half point over-under, just so everyone knows. I'll just repeat that there. Simon, what do you think here? Packers minus 13? Yeah, I'll take the Packers minus 13 as well. I'm standing on that side of this. And without Kirk Cousins, I don't see the Vikings being able to do much against his Packers team. And I'll say it hits exactly. It'll be 30.5 to 13 final score. It's impressive. Just kidding. No, I'll say 20. Jay took the number. I was going to say with the Packers. Josh, I'm just going to roll with you entirely, Jay. Same score, same line, same side as Jay. I'm right there. The same person, Simon and I. I'm not sure if you knew that. Same hat, same number. And just so I let you guys know, I'm actually more confident in the Packers covering the spread than I am with this over-under, to be honest with you. But, Jay, what do you think? Yeah, I will also take the Packers in this one, and I'll say 35-14. Wow, wow. So, Jay, I'll think it's going to be the biggest blow up. So, we're all taking the Packers here. That's not great because we're ending up not going to be able to do a bet like we did last week, but we did do a bet last year. Or, we do a bet against no one, and we either all win or all lose, and we all have to pay it out, or none of us have to pay it. I like it, let's do it. You want to make the worst noise? Yeah, we'll do it together. We'll do it at the same time. All right, I'll fire with it. I'm feeling pretty good about this. But, we did make a bet last week. I think we talked about it going in the show. We were going to pay it right now. So, we need to pick the animal as well. No, no, no. The Cowboys are the worst. The Cowboys are the worst. The Cowboys are the worst. Jay and I took the Cowboys minus 10. Jayle and Simon took the Washington football team plus 10. So, they lost. They have to pay it off with making animal noise. But not last week. Oh, I wrote it on the board last, this week. Horse cold. Nailed it. Nailed it. I think you need a sweater. That was horrible. Don't listen to them, Simon, that was beautiful. That horse was trying to blow down the three little pigs' house. My horse noise gets worse every single time. The best one was when you bit the apple before. We got Andy in here. What's up, Andy? Glad to have you here. That's my father-in-law, so thank you. Craig, welcome in. Hey to you as well. Come here now, BJD9 says Simon. Michigan is bad. Or, Georgia was just very good. I think Georgia's an excellent football team and Michigan was mismatched there. But what a season they had. I think Michigan had a great football team this year. But, man, Georgia just dominated them. Albert in here guessing Packers 28-13 is his guess on that game. That's very close to mine. I said 30-13. So let's go, Albert. Let's go, Albert. Brian says someone take that horse out back and put it out of its misery. Probably, they probably would. Which one? I think Simon's. Oh, yeah, but both. Just take care of both at the same time. But we'll hold hoops while they put us down, Simon. We will hold hoops. We are going to smush hoops so hard while they put us down. We're born together and we'll die together. Josh, on this game, though, did you have any player props as well that I know usually you pick out a couple that you like? I do. I have two that I, you know, I was going through the family of sports book. I found a couple that I really like. Devonte Adams, I think he's going to have a big game. He had a big game last time. They played the Vikings. I know Kirk Hudson's not going to play this week, but I still think Devonte Adams is going to have over 88 and a half receiving yards. I know that's a lot. It's a high over under. But I just I don't I see it happen. I'll take the under even with the cold weather. It's not like the cold weather doesn't bother me as much. I, you know, it's it's not going to be the cold. And if anyone can overcome cold weather, it's also right. And then I also really like Aaron Jones. Is it any time touchdown score? I'll take the other the other side on the Devonte Adams one, but I'm with you on the Aaron Jones one. OK, if I'm predicting them to win as big as I think they are, I think they may be committed to the run a little bit more in the second half. Adams probably has a big first half and then not as big of a second half stays under that total is my thinking right there. Fair enough. Also, we got FanDuel in the chat. Welcome and glad to have you here. Daddy FanDuel stopping by to pay us a visit. Guys, are you guys ready to jump in? So much worse than you say it, Josh. I don't know why, but it really was. We're going to jump into our first game of the day today, guys. And boy, was it a good game, man. This was this was such a fun game to watch. Oh, this was the best game of the week. 34-31. It's got to be right. I mean, there were other close games this week. There were other very good games, but in terms of like just two great teams coming head to head and meeting. And then the underdog actually ended up winning. Kansas City came into this game, three and a half point favorites. And since then it was at home and Kansas City. The Cincinnati Bengals pulled it out 34-31. This was very impressive. This impressed me for the Bengals. They won the AFC North. They're going to be in the playoffs. I really look forward to this matchup. So if we see it in the playoffs, because I think it's going to be outstanding. Guys, before I get into the fantasy context of everything here, who is the best team in the AFC right now? Is it still the Chiefs? Are the Bengals in consideration? I think it's one of these two teams, right? Yeah, it's got to be. I mean, if you ask me, I'm still taking the Chiefs. The Bengals were at home. You always give the home team a three-point advantage, typically. Like just right off the bat, like that's three points. So the Bengals won by three points. If they meet in the playoffs, I think the Chiefs might be at home and they might be able to edge this one out. So I'm going to take the Chiefs still. But I think you have to consider, like if we're talking about the Bengals in that conversation, I know the Bills have had their struggles, but I think we have to talk about the Bills as well as a potential best team in the AFC. I'm still taking the Chiefs. I'm with you, Josh. But I think then I would put Bills' second Bengals. I don't even know if the Bengals are third. I just don't fully buy into it yet. We've seen some really rough offensive games from them this season. When they put it all together, they have one of the most dangerous offenses in the NFL with an improved defense compared to last year. But I haven't seen it consistently enough. Like, and I know they're a 10-win team now, right? I'm just not fully bought in yet. 10-6, the Chiefs are 11-5. They're getting hot at the right time, though. What do you think, J.L.? Yeah, I agree with Simon that I think Bills are in the conversation. I will go Chiefs. I will actually throw the Bengals slightly ahead of the Bills. Maybe that's a better conversation. Bills are Bengals, right? Yeah. J, what do you think? I'm going to go with a team that beat the Chiefs earlier this season, the Tennessee Titans. I still think that they're going to get Eric Henry back. They've been able to do just enough. They've struggled a little bit with Adam on offense. But now that they got A.G. Brown back, they completely shut down the Dolphins who've been red hot. So I think it's close between the Chiefs and the Titans. But the Bills, the Bengals are all still in the conversation. And Albert seems to be agreeing with you down there, saying, what about the Titans if Henry is back? Also, just a quick shout out, Mr. Mr. Thank you so much for the follow on YouTube. We really appreciate it. Check out some of our other videos. Let us know what you think over there. And Fando said, no Jair. No Jair Alexander. Yeah, no Jair. For the Green Bay Packers. So that's a great point. That's a great point. Got to mention no Kirk Cousins as well. I was going to say, I think, who's throwing the ball over there now? Is it Manion? I'm actually, we need to wrap this up early. I'm going to play quarterback. I think Sean Manion throwing the ball to Justin Jefferson is about the same as Kirk Cousins throwing it to him with Jair Alexander covering him. I don't know. I think I'd take Kirk Cousins probably. But we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I was looking at the over and under for Justin Jefferson's receiving yards. I think it was like 78 around there. And I was like, I almost wanted to take the under. But I just couldn't do it because it's Justin Jefferson and I know they need him to win this game. Coming up each 89th team, Bill's Cowboys Rams Colts Dream Super Bowl. Four teams in the Super Bowl would be wild. I would win that. That is my dream Super Bowl. Instead of a field with just two sides, it's like a cross. It's four sides. And it only counts if you get across first then everybody resets. Yeah. 11-man offense for three 11-man defense. We talked about how we have to speed through these a little bit. I'm sorry. I brought up the AFC. Best team in the AFC. So I'll take responsibility for that. But let's get back to this game. Kansas City Chiefs versus Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals won. You're very happy starting Darryl Williams. You're very happy if you ended up getting him. Maybe awful waivers even. He had a great game. 14 carries eight yards. Two touchdowns, three catches for 19 yards. Impressed with him. Patrick Reynolds was solid. You weren't disappointed with him in your lineup, but he didn't win you a week or anything. Completing 26 passes, 259 yards. Two touchdowns. Had two carries for 25 yards solid game. But you had to be disappointed with all the receiving weapons when the Kansas City Chiefs side of the ball. Travis Kelsey, Tyree Kill. They just did not have big explosive games. Travis Kelsey didn't kill your week. But you weren't happy with it going into next season. I want to ask you guys this. Where do you think Travis Kelsey will rank out of all tight ends? So actually let's rank our top five tight ends. Can we do that? I think these are the tight ends in consideration. Kelsey, Kittle, Andrews, Pitts, Waller, and Gronk. And got it. Waller, Gronk, and got it. For me, my top five tight ends would be going into next season. I'm still putting Kelsey at the top. I'm putting Andrews number two. I'm putting Kittle number three. Now I think it gets a little bit where you know, you could go a lot of different directions. I'm going to put Gronk as my number four tight end. I'm going to put Gronk as my number four tight end. And this is really tough for me too. Between Waller and Pitts for me, I am going to lean Pitts. So Pitts is going to be my number five tight end, with closely with Waller band. So what do you think, Jay? With you, I still think Kelsey's number one. And I think Mark Andrews is number two. These next three, you could really put, make an argument for any order. I'm going to put Kyle Pitts is number three. I think that people are overreacting. You know, he's still, he's breaking rookie records for yardage. Jeremy Shockey back in the day. I think if he would have had a couple more touch, a couple touchdowns this year, you'd be, people would be flipping out about Kyle Pitts. So he might even, you know, depending on where he's going in drafts, he could turn out to be a value. We don't know what's going to happen with Cal and Ridley. Hopefully he's back next year, but I think that'll have a significant impact on the offense. So that is, that was Kelsey, that was Andrews, that was Pitts. I'm going to go Kittle and then Waller. Okay. And then Simon, we'll come to Simon. Kelsey one for me. Andrews two. I agree with you there. Kittle three. I agree with you there as well. I'm still going to put Waller four. And a big reason I'm putting Waller four is because of the way they've used Hunter Renfrow while Waller has been out. That is the Waller role that Renfrow is doing. Foster Murray. What? No, Hunter Renfrow. The like Hunter Renfrow has absorbed a lot. I thought you said Hunter Henry and I was like, no, something's not right. No, I mean Hunter Renfrow for sure. The way they've used Hunter Renfrow has given me a lot of reason to believe that the second Darren Waller is back and healthy, they're going to start using him in a heavy target volume role again. So he's still number four for me. And then that number five one is so hard. I think I'm going to go Pitts as well. I love the upside. I love what we've seen from him this year, but Gronk is right there with him. So Kelsey, Andrews, Kittle, Waller, Pitts for me. And Jail, wrap it up for us. All right. I'm going to go Kelsey, Andrews, Kittle, Pitts, Gronk. Kelsey, Andrews, Kittle, Pitts, Gronk. Okay. Jail and I were pretty close. We just reversed Gronk and Pitts. Yeah. All right. Cool. I love it. I love it. I'm a little bit higher on Gronk. Jay's a little bit higher on Pitts. It seems like we both have the same top. We all have the same top too. There we go. Sure. So we all still think that Travis Kelsey is the number one tight end going the next season. He's wrapped up. Yep. All right. Perfect. So Bengals on the Bengal side of the ball. Joe Burrow is playing out of his free mind the last two weeks. This has led to some crazy awesome weeks for both Jamar Chase and Tia Higgins last week. This was actually the best PPR fantasy game of the season. Jamar Chase just that. In a half point PPR in a standard league, Jonathan Taylor actually has the number one game, but in a PPR league, Jamar Chase had the best week of the season right here. That's wild. I want to ask it again, but I'm going to add a little bit of a nuance to it. Going into next season, rank these four wide receivers. Jamar Chase, Tia Higgins, C.D. Lamb, and Cooper, and a Mari Cooper. So the Cowboys top two wide receivers and the Bengals top two wide receivers. I want to rank these four wide receivers. Simon, I want to come to you first. Yeah, I figured you would. Any time a Mari Cooper or Mike Evans gets brought up in a question, it always gets thrown my way first. Mari Cooper, here we go. Touchdown, by the way. Man, part of it. Part of what makes this tough is that there isn't out in Cooper's contract at the end of this season, if I remember correctly. He's still under contract, but there's an out. A way for the team to easily move on, that's how the contract was structured. So we haven't heard many rumblings, but it's not a guarantee that he's back with the Cowboys next year. That being said, I'm not sure how much it changes it. Jamar Chase is number one for me. Then C.D. Lamb. Then this is where he gets really top between T. Higgins and a Mari Cooper. I love it. And I love both of those guys. Can I just call it a tie between those two guys at three? No, you're going to make me choose. I'll go... If you had to draft right now, you're drafting for this season. I'll go Higgins-Cooper. I'll go... There's a little bit more certainty with Higgins' role and the offense he's going to be in and what it's going to look like. So I'll go Higgins-3, Cooper-4, but I think all of these are good fantasy options next year. J.O.? Sorry, it was Higgins-Cooper, Lamb, and who was the fourth? Chase. It's the Banger's wide receivers and the Cowboys. All right, I'll go... I'll go... Chase, Lamb... Chase, Lamb, Higgins-Cooper. Chase, Lamb, and... Me, you, and come here now Beach 89 on the same page. J.O.? Throw one more in there. I'm the exact same order. I'm the same order, too, guys! I'm the same order! We did it! What do we win? What do we win? I am this close to putting CD-Lamb above Jermart Chase, but I just can't do it. I really thought about it, but I like the Cowboys defense better, so I just, I think that... The reason why I was so high on Cooper going into the season, like we've talked about before, is the Cowboys defense was so bad. They've got a pretty solid defense, one of the hottest of the NFL right now, so I can see situations where the Bengals are in more shootouts than the Cowboys. What just happened? Guys, that was the most in sync thing that has ever happened on this show. Like, you guys became one voice melted together. All right, so I want to... I mean, so, hey, Jermart Chase is going to be a borderline, probably a second round pick next season, but he's going to be drafted really high. Really, yeah. People are going to remember this performance. Receiving yards. This guy, 11 catches. A day. Three touchdowns today. Yeah. The jail said today, like, because that could be someone's line for the season. That could be a rookie's wide receiver yardage total for the season, and people would still be hyping up as a sleeper for next year. I would personally like to thank Mr. Joe Burrow for helping me win a championship. It's 99% share. It's not 100%, but these past two weeks, man, he has just been unbelievable. Unbelievable. Today, 30 completions, 446 yards. That's my wife and probably my kids as well. So... I'm going to guess we get 37 completions, four touchdowns, 525 yards. Joe Burrow's plan on was mine. Joe Nixon has a somewhat disappointing week, but you really can't complain about seven catches. Only 12 carries for 46 yards. He didn't get into the end, Saren, but you didn't kill your dad. Fantasy points, that's fine. Yeah. That is it for this game. Let's move on to the next one. Guys, we are going to move on to our next game, which is the New York Giants versus the Chicago Bears. We really don't have to talk about this, to be honest. There's not a whole lot to talk about. But Mike Glennon completed four passes today. Yeah. So the passing game, there literally is nothing to talk about. I'm going to skip over it completely. The only thing on the Giants... It's like one of the worst games of the season for a quarterback, actually. Well, I also had the Bears in my championship. I wasn't too disappointed with that. But I know that makes me a bad fan. But Giants aren't going anywhere in this game. You're room for them to lose. So at this point. But Saquon Barkley had a solid game over 100 yards, 102 yards. No touchdown, but this leads into my only question for the Giants. It's going to be a two-parter. The first part, what round are you comfortable starting drafting Saquon Barkley in a start-up? And then once we go through this, I've got a little bit of a name game for us. And Josh, we're going to start with you. Like a dynasty start-up? Yes, a dynasty start-up. What round are you comfortable drafting Saquon Barkley? Like a 12-team? Just, let's say, your standard 12-team PPR. I kind of remember where you went in our last mock draft. Not high, pretty. I mean, like... So it's probably going to be like the fifth or sixth round. Okay, JL. Oh, fifth or sixth start-up. It shouldn't be that low. It should not be that low. I would say he should be drafted still second round. Second round is where he belongs now, is where he'll go. Nope. See, I think I live like right between you guys. I agree with both of you. Now, Texas isn't between Baltimore and North Carolina. Sorry. Well, it depends which way you look at it. If you go the other way, it is. If you go north from... No, you're not going to make this work. Yeah, if you go northeast from Baltimore around the globe, you'll hit Texas and then get back to North Carolina. It's between. But that's besides my point. I meant on this take between you guys. I think he's right outside of those top 12 backs. He's in like the 13 to 15 range in Dynasty right now. And so while I think that should push him into the fifth or sixth round, the way running backs get drafted, I think it's probably the third round. We're saying when Barclay ends up getting drafted. Yeah, and I'm with you guys. I'm with you, Simon. I'm more back into the second, early first. If he's there, I'd be taking him off the board. But let's play a quick name game and we'll go that same order. Start up. You're in a startup draft right now. These two guys are on the board. No. Saquon, Barclay, or Ezekiel Elliott, Josh. I'll go Saquon. Jail. Saquon. Simon. I'll go Zeke. I'm going Barclay. It's a little tougher with these next two. Sixth round. I'm going to hope he's going to be on a new team. Saquon, Barclay, or Christian McCaffer. That was a Superflex draft. I guess I was thinking Superflex. CMC. CMC. Yeah, CMC. Barclay or Derek Henry? Derek Henry. Barclay. Derek Henry. Barclay as well. Barclay or Aaron Jones? No. Just skipping your pick. Derek Henry. They're both low for me. I guess I'll lean Barclay. I'll go Barclay as well here. Can I throw one out there? No. Barclay or Michael Carter? Oh, Barclay. Simon, yes. Go ahead, throw one out. What about Javonte Williams? Barclay or Jan Sillins? Javonte. I was considering that, but no hesitation. Javonte. Okay. I just, if we brought up Derek Henry, I think there are still people that have Javonte Williams below Barclay and dynasty rankings. I'm with you guys, but I think we may be putting the cart before the horse, assuming that we're even only one year away from him having the backfield. We haven't seen it, except when Melvin Gordon has been injured, Melvin Gordon comes back. Melvin Gordon very easily could come back to the Denver Broncos. Exactly. Fantasy Twitter would explode. It's a one-year contract though. Yeah, it is a one-year contract. He's done after this. He would have to recite him. That's what I'm, yeah. But I think there's a real chance I have. It could happen. Yeah. I doubt it happens, but it's absolutely a possibility, obviously. So that's honestly all that's worth talking about on the giant side of the ball on the Bears. Andy Dalton had a typical Andy Dalton game, but Darnell Mooney, Josh, you've been high on them recently. Seven catches, 69 yards. Nice. With a touchdown of 13 targets. So it's going to lead into my next question. Darnell Mooney is a top blank wide receiver in 2022. Excuse me. I'll start with you, Simon. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. Daddy Fandle is going to put you in timeout, Josh, for that one. Sometimes you got to do it. Sometimes you got to do it. Oh, Fandle said that. You're like running into it too. You know, sometimes it happens. Like, I'm not in control of what comes out of my mouth, you know. We all know that already. That's true. That's very true. Darnell Mooney is a top 2020 blank wide receiver. Going into next season or next season? Jay, I think you answered it perfectly without even meaning to. He's a top 20 to 22 wide receiver next year. Okay. That's your answer. Yeah, yeah. 2022 is about 20 to 22. Yeah, I don't want to say top 20, but like he's right there, you know. Probably a wide receiver too. Yeah. I might not have had Robbins next year. Back in top 30. Yeah, I'm more in line with JL. I think more of top 30. I think he's going to have those big weeks, but I just, I don't trust a wide receiver on the Bears offense, especially we don't know. We're assuming Maggie's going to be. We see reports that Maggie's going to be gone, but yeah. It's an assumption at this point. Right. And Justin Fields, you know, although he's that flash as he hasn't been that consistent when passing the ball. So, you know, he's going to go through some growing pains as well. I'm saying top 24 wide receiver, if I feel it. Officially. Make it official. Official burp. That wasn't official burp. Bravo. Brought to you by Fane. Albert Aaron, he just came in and there was a second after I said it. There's literally a second after I said it. You know what, and Albert kills it at all the trivia games, so I can only assume everything he says is. Albert and I are so similar. Like, yeah. Yeah, wow. Yeah, so close. However, you burped after I burped. It's really not much else to talk about this game other than the the Bears defense dominated. Help some teams win some fantasy championships. David Montgomery got two touchdowns. Had an okay day on the ground. 64 yards, a couple of catches. Nothing really to write home about, but you know, this was just an ugly game that the Giants really won and lost because they also had the Bears pick. So to help you to top 10 picks. So I'm good with it. So they kind of wanted to win that game a little bit probably. Yeah, it works out. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game is the Philadelphia Eagles taking down the Washington football team without Antonio Gibson 20 to 60. I said without Antonio Gibson, but I skipped the fact that the Eagles were also without Miles Sanders. They're starting running back. So the Miles Sanders Eagles taking down the Antonio Gibson list Washington football team. The first thing I wanted to talk about here, guys, was was Jalen Hertz. So the Eagles did win, but Jalen Hertz did not have a fantasy day that helped fantasy managers out at all. And this was without Miles Sanders. They're starting running back in the lineup. Some may assume without him, maybe Jalen Hertz takes on more of a rushing role. Maybe this offense has to run more through him. But that wasn't the case. Boston Scott with 14 carries. Jordan Howard had another 11 carries. They used the running backs, the backup running backs pretty heavily. I mean the Jalen Hertz only threw for 214 yards and only rushed for 44, leading to a pretty disappointing fantasy game with no touchdowns on the ground for him. Now he is still going into this week. He was the QV six on the season so far. But we've seen some pretty disappointing games from him along the way. There's been the big games, the 30 point games, the 35 point games. But Josh, similar to some of the questions you were asking, how do we view Jalen Hertz going into next season? Assuming he's the starter, Josh, do you view him as a top five starter? Where will you be drafting him in order quarterback wise? You don't have to give me the names before him, but are you drafting him as the fifth quarterback off the board, 10th? How are you viewing this? Probably more like a top 10. But I'm not going to reach for Jalen Hertz next season. When it comes down to Jalen Hertz, if I can get a really awesome value on him, I'm going to take him. He's a top 10 quarterback. So when we're talking about redraft leagues, if I'm waiting on quarterback, he's probably a guy I can take. But if he's going high, I'm definitely not going to be reaching for Jalen Hertz. I love his rushing upside, but he's a top 10 quarterback. There's a good grouping of quarterbacks I'll take over him. A good grouping. Jale, what about you? Are you in line with Josh here or a little bit higher on Hertz? I am completely in line with Josh here. I feel like I'm not going to get any Jalen Hertz next year because he's just going to go too high. Exactly. Assuming that, yeah, assuming no big changes in the off season. But I'm with Josh. I would have him as a back end, a back end keeper. I don't know quite if I'm ready to put him in top 10, but if not, he's right there in top 12. Jay, what about you? I echo pretty much everything both of these guys said. Same. Guys, we've got a question from Albert real quick before we continue talking about this game. I think this question. He wants to know St. Brown or Mooney for next season. Oh, that one's very close, but a lot of moving parts for both of these guys. Yeah, I'll go with Mooney at this point. I'm going to the whole season, guys. I'm going to Mooney. And the reason is, like I've said a few times, you know, I want to see St. Brown do this with Hawkinson on the field with Swift, although he was back. He didn't play his full complement of snaps. Mooney, I can see potentially being a wide receiver one. I don't see that in the realm of possibilities for Almond Ross St. Brown. Man, but the question isn't dynasty. It's for next season. Know what I mean? I don't see either of these guys being a wide receiver one next season. So I'm going to go St. Brown for next season. If this was dynasty, I think I would prefer Mooney long term, but next year I'm going to go with St. Brown. I think I would lean Mooney. Mooney for JL on that one. So I'm alone on the St. Brown side, but guys, I like Mooney too. This isn't an indictment on Mooney at all. This is wildly close. That was a great question right there. Guys, the running backs here. Boston Scott, 14 carries, 47 yards and he had two touchdowns on the ground, made his day. But at four receptions for 39 yards on top of that as well, he was involved in the passing game. If you started Boston Scott this week, if you picked him up off waivers and started him, you were pretty happy. Though he was not the best running bag you could have started off waivers, but we will talk about that guy in a little bit. But Boston Scott absolutely killed it. The one other thing on this Eagle side that I wanted to talk about was Dallas Goddard. So we talked about the other tight ends a minute ago and I think Dallas Goddard was the name that was right on the outside looking in. And what I want to do is I want to tell you why Dallas Goddard isn't in the conversation to crack that top five for me. And it's partially what we've talked about already, how this offense wants to run. Even when Miles Sanders goes down, this is a, Jay, I believe you said it before the show. You said this is a run first, run second, and run third offense. That's how they want to run. And I was how you phrased it, but yeah, that's how they want this team to operate. We've seen it limit other quarterbacks and wide receivers in the NFL, the Browns, based on how they want the team to work. And I think the Eagles are going to be similar and Dallas Goddard just isn't going to get the volume to put them in the category with those other guys. Andrews did break that mold this year, right? The Ravens started throwing the ball more, but I don't view Jaylen Hertz as the kind of quarterback that can evolve into a better passer the way that Lamar Jackson did. Lamar Jackson's a much better quarterback. Jail, do you think there's a chance Dallas Goddard sneaks into that top five tight end conversation next season or do you think he's near a ceiling right now? Sure. Sure. He's close enough that I think he could sneak into it. I don't, I think there's enough competition that at least going into the season, I can't see anyone drafting him top five, but he's he's in there right on the bench. Josh, what about you? I see you nodding. I got something to say here. Mark Andrews. I think he was in a very good, last year you could have said it's everything you said you could have said about Mark Andrews. And this season, Mark Andrews turned it on and maybe Dallas Goddard isn't quite as great of a talent as Mark Andrews. Maybe that's the case, but I think he's a one of the top tier talents at the tight end position in the NFL. You know, they, they, they got rid of Zachary. So coming in the season, Dallas Goddard wasn't expected to be the number one tight end. It was supposed to be, you know, Zachary's in him, you know, because Zachary's is a very talented tight end as well. Now going into the soft season, only Dallas Goddard, that's why, you know, when I brought up all these tight ends, I did mention him. You know, I'm not really in my top five either, but I think he has a chance to break in there next season. So I might have a decent on Dallas Goddard on my fantasy teams next year. Nice. I don't hate it. If I can get a value. Yeah. The only thing is, I think Goddard is a worse player than Andrews. And I think Hertz is a worse player than Lamar Jackson. That's the only thing about that. Andrews is doing it with Huntley and Johnson. He is doing it with Huntley as well. He's been killing it over there. Jay, where do you stand on this one real quick? I lean pretty much with Josh and what you said to Simon, you know, the comparison is there with with Mark Andrews and Goddard. But I think the big thing is Lamar Jackson is a much better quarterback. But I think that Goddard will be some value. He's got the type of tight end that I like to target in my drafts. I don't like to go early for tight end. I like to get those guys who are right on the cusp that you can get a value that you can see potentially making that jump. And I think Goddard fits that mold pretty well. So as long as the value is there, I do see myself drafting a lot of Dallas Goddard next year. Guys, we're going to move on to the Washington football side of this. But before we do that, we have a question in here. Well, first of all, what's up, Mr. Scampers? Welcome, Inz Ladd. What's up? How are you here? What it's 27% people must have voted for the Vikings, I'm assuming. The Vikings, yeah. I just can't do it. I cannot do it without your cousins. No, Tarian here is in which wide receiver should I play? N.V.S. or K.J. Osborne? N.V.S. N.V.S. I am hands off on K.J. Yeah, with Sean Manion in it quarterback, it's N.V.S. for me as well. Jail, are you going K.J. or are you going N.V.S.? I'm going N.V.S. Unanimous N.V.S., Terry, so take that as you will on that one. But we would all start N.V.S. over K.J. Osborne. I'll be rooting against Osborne in the league. I'm fighting for this trophy again. My opponent does have Osborne. So take that into account, Terry. Yeah, yeah. Consider all of the information. For Osborne. Yeah. No, just like you added up and it's like no Kirk Cousins. Right. If Cousins was there, there would be, it would be a conversation, but without Cousins. I would probably go Osborne if Cousin was there. Yeah. What if Cousins was there? Oh, true. And the Seahawks have scored 51 points. The Seahawks have scored 51 points on the Detroit line. I'm sorry, we'll get to that. That's insane. Guys, on the Washington side of this ball, my first question I wanted to bring up was the questions of surrounding the quarterback room here. So Taylor Heinecke has been the starter for the vast majority of this season. Do you guys expect him to remain the starter at the beginning of 2022? Jay? I don't. And I came into the season thinking that Heinecke was a better option than Ryan Fitzpatrick for the team long term because we know what Ryan Fitzpatrick is. I mean, everybody loves Ryan Fitzpatrick. 15? He loves to sleep. What's that? I said 50. We all know what he is. 50 years old about. Yeah. Yeah, something like 49, right? Yeah. But you know what you get with him? He's, you know, as soon as he becomes the starter or the guy, the things fall apart. He's the guy that you want to be your backup to come in if you need somebody. He's a poor man's Brett Favre, basically. And you're not going to, you know, lead a franchise with that. I think Heinecke was the better off for them being the start of the majority of the season because they know what they have in him now. I think he's okay. I think he's solid. You know, if this, he can't elevate this team. You look what happened with Terry Cloran this season. You know, McLoran was coming into this season on the Fringe Wide Receiver 1 territory and Heinecke just wasn't able to get it done. I would not be surprised to see them in the market for one of these veteran quarterbacks, you know, Russell Wilson's. Jimmy G. Right. Yeah, Jimmy G. You know, if everything gets cleared legally to Sean Watson. All right. I hate to say it. There's been no decision made on Baker Mayfield yet. With the Browns. I think it's most likely you say they're bringing back Baker Mayfield. They better. I know. I'm just, I'm preparing myself for them not. You know, they could, they could draft somebody too. So, I don't think he's the quarterback under center next year. And I think that leads to something if you're getting to this or not. But I think in Dynasty, Terry McLoran is a great buy low because I think they will upgrade the quarterback position next season. You can buy low. Yeah, you read my mind. That's exactly what this was going into. In my mind, I view a changing quarterback situation is not getting worse at worst. It stays neutral. And hopefully eventually means a better outcome for Terry McLoran. But that's what I'm hoping for as well. Heineke had some great games this year, but I don't think he's the answer long term there. Also, Terry in here says, MBS it is. I'm down 22 with Najee and MBS left. Wish me luck. That's a close one. That's a fun one to sweat. That's a fun championship week sweat right there. I'll give you a it's in between 54. I'll give you a 60% chance of winning this game. 60% from Josh and he's always right with his percentages. Always. Because if you lose, you're on the other side of time. I'm always right. Also, Bam said he won his championship even with a stinger from A.B. and Kittle winning by 10. And he's got the box. Oh, man. Oh, bam. Don't count your chickens where they at. She's got the Vante Adams versus the other teams. But you got it, Bam. You got it, Bam. You got it. Like get the 9% chance of winning that game. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, one more thing on the Washington side of the ball. So, Jared Patterson, I just want to highlight all of the wave or wire running backs that could have helped you win a championship this week. We already had one. Boston Scott on the other side. Jared Patterson's coming in here. 18.3 half PBR points. PPR gets even a little bit higher over there. You could say even about two and a half points higher for PPR. But Daryl Williams. Daryl Williams. Yeah, it was nuts. There have been tons of wave wire running. You get their Stevenson's name in there, I think. What I did want to bring up though was Antonio Gibson. So, he missed this game as a whole. I would say this season was disappointing compared to expectations. But there was a stretch where they were giving him 20 plus carries a game like everyone expected at the beginning of the season and he showed up. He did exactly what we thought he was going to do. So, I think Antonio Gibson is one of the more difficult players to rank going into next season. Josh, where is Antonio Gibson for you? Is he a top five guy, a top 12 guy, a top 20 guy? Going into next season, I'm probably not going to have a lot of Antonio Gibson. What I've seen this season just, I expected more from the Washington football team. And I feel like every year we can expect a little bit more. And they always underperform. I think there's some ownership management issues with the Washington football team, right? What? I know. I know. Josh, we're going into next season. Surprise. He's a top 20 running back, for sure. He could easily be a top 15 running back, but I'm not going to be drafting in there. So, he's probably more of a top 20 running back when it comes down to it, for me. Jail, what about you? Do you agree with Josh? Do you have him a little higher? No, I think top 15 is appropriate. The volume they were giving him when healthy is just, it's been very promising. And so that tells me that they have confidence in Antonio Gibson. I said Antonio Brown. But yeah, Antonio Gibson, the volume he's been getting, he's looked good with that volume as long as he can stay healthy next season. Top 15 I think is perfect. Guys, I think he's a top 10 running back for me next year. This season, he's top 12 in PPR leagues. Or sorry, that's standard. Let me pull it up. But he's having a good season already. Antonio Gibson is top 10 in PPR leagues this season based on what's happened. And he's had stretches of disappearing. Henry, there's so many people that are hurt that are going to be coming back. But there's also Cordero Patterson, James Conner ahead of him. These guys that had injuries around them and took on roles we didn't expect. I'm saying I view Antonio Gibson like, well, you can say the things about him or the players behind him. There's also players ahead of him that won't perform that same way and I'm expecting more of the role that we saw with 20 plus touches. So he's still a top 10 guy for me. And I honestly feel like that's a little bit low. I think you could put him up near the top five. Let me ask you this, Simon. Would you be comfortable with Antonio Gibson as you're running back one next year? Yeah, I think he's got less safety than some of these other guys. But I think he could be your RV1. Safe for me. I'm more in line with Josh and JL. I think he's definitely got the potential, that top 10 potential. But I feel like you're really drafting him at his ceiling there. I don't see him ever being a top five guy. I think the max for him is going to be seven, eight, something along those lines. I think drafting him as a top 15 option, more of a high end RV2. Are we drafting him ahead of Ezekiel, are you? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think I would at this point. But I would be much more comfortable with him as my running back two than having to rely on him as my running back one. Yeah, guys, I think this will be a... We'll continue this discussion throughout the office. Gibson's going to be one of the more interesting ones to talk about. But we're going to move on to our next game. Before we do that, we have a couple questions. Mr. Scampers, a reminder to everyone, I know it's Championship Week. Maybe you've got some questions. You need to help you win that title. Throw them in the chat. We'll be glad to answer them. Mr. Scampers said half PPR, up 12, going against Aaron Jones. He needs two of Jefferson, Deontae, and Dylan. I'm going Jefferson and Deontae and Benchin, Aaron, or AJ, Dylan for me. Josh to see nodding. Do you agree? Exactly. Great with you. JLJ, would either of you guys be starting AJ, Dylan, or are you starting Jefferson and Deontae? Yeah, Jefferson and Deontae. It's Jefferson and Deontae. Yep. Also, Nigel and you said, I can't believe I'm going to lose with Jamar Chase on my team. I put in a Seton Brown, Metcalf, and Rashad Penney. I'm down by exactly four points. He has Deontae Johnson tomorrow and half PPR. Truly need a miracle. Or I think he's up by exactly four. And he has Deontae Johnson tomorrow. I don't love it. I'm going to be honest with you. Never say never. Never say never. Guys, we are going to move on to our next game. It is the Los Angeles Rams versus the Baltimore Ravens. The Rams won this one 20 to 19. I guess the Tyler Huntley led Baltimore Ravens. Yes, this was a crushing defeat for our Ravens, Josh. Tyler Huntley filling in for Lamar Jackson. The overrun of the game. I know we were ahead all game in Matthew Stafford while he turned it over three times this game again. Another week, a lot of turnovers. He pulled it together. He came back. He had a fourth quarter rally and came back and they won this game. The overunder on this is 46. The Rams were favorited by minus seven. Seven points favorited by seven points. So Ravens definitely covered the spread on this one. Nice. That was like a little one. Little baby one. Matthew Stafford, like I said, lots, lots turnovers today. Pretty average fantasy performance. But Sonya Michelle, who's filling in for Daryl Henderson, had a really good game. 19 attempts for 74 yards in the touchdown, as well as three target, or sorry, three receptions of five targets, 25 yards. Start here. Where do you guys see Sonya Michelle? What kind of value does Sonya Michelle have going into next season? Daryl Henderson will likely be back. Cam Acres will most definitely be back. Where, what do we do with Sonya Michelle? Josh, why don't we start with you? I'm not going to be drafting him next season if Cam Acres and Daryl Henderson are healthy. And Sonya Michelle is still on the Rams. In my mind, he's at best the second best running back there. Where I think Daryl Henderson still has a lot of past catching ability. Cam Acres, I don't know. I think their plan was to have him as the starting running back coming into the season. I don't think that kind of has changed. I know the Achilles injuries are a little scary, but it's still awesome that we get to see the athlete foreman have this kind of season. Like, you know, come back from that Achilles injury and actually look pretty decent, right? So that gives me a lot more confidence in Cam Acres. So am I going to be drafting a lot of backup running backs for teams, especially Sonya Michelle who doesn't catch passes? Probably not. I'm pretty hands off on Sonya Michelle going in. Michelle is actually an unrestricted free agent going into this upcoming season. So I just looked it up. Yep. So he is 26 years old. He's getting up there in age. But I think it depends. He wants to look at Alpins maybe. Yeah, it depends on, you know, if his draft stock goes up and, you know, he's getting drafted like Mike Davis was this year, had his ceiling. I'm not going to touch him. But, you know, if he signs where he could have some touches and you get a decent value on him, I think he's fine. He's not somebody I'm actively going to be trying to put on my teams. But just like anything else, it all depends on the value. I'm just trying to look through the teams. Like I'd be like excited if he signed with. About Miami. I guess, yeah, Miami crossed my mind. But then like, I don't know. I wouldn't be that excited. I'd be more excited with the Falcons, believe it or not. I'm with you, Josh. I agree. And then Cooper Cup, he had six receptions and seven targets, 95 yards and touchdown. Just doing what he does all season. Josh, I want to ask you because I kind of know the answer to this question for you. So I kind of want to start this conversation. Were you drafted next season? How high? Extremely high. My number one wide receiver. Number one wide receiver for 2022. Absolutely. You can make an argument for Devontae Adams. Maybe Tirekill, maybe Justin Jefferson. I don't think you could even do it for Jamar. Is he in a tier of his own? No. I'll still put him in a tier with Devontae Adams solely. No, no. If he's not with Aaron Rodgers and Devontae Adams, come back for the Packers. I'll put him in a tier with Devontae Adams. If not, I am putting Cooper Cup in a tier by himself. Also, we did have this from Bam earlier, coming in saying, told you so, Jalen Josh. Aaron Rodgers in our front office relationship has improved significantly and are working to bring him back this off season for multiple sources. Hey, we said it was a possibility. You said it was a possibility. It's definitely a possibility. I still think it's a cornflip, to be honest with you. But I think before, both sides of the coin said, screw the Packers. And now only one side says it. They've erased one side of the coin to say, yeah, maybe. 50% from 0% is a big deal. Yeah. So moving on. So OBJ had a great game in a touchdown as well. Van Jefferson. I don't think there's much to talk about there. Moving over to the ball to the more side of the ball. Tyler Huntley was filling in for Lamar Jackson. And he didn't have as quite as good a game as he did the week that Simon wish he played him. Was that two weeks ago? Not quite. You mean the game where I lost and I would have been in the Scott Fishbowl finals if I would have played Tyler Huntley over Nick Mullins that week? Oh, I completely forgot about that. Yeah, he started Nick Mullins. Yeah. Ew. Yep. Yeah, not so good. I was trying to will it into existence. And much employment. Marquis Brown. I have a great game. Three receptions and eight targets. 28 yards. Fumble. Rashad Bateman was led this team's receiving with seven receptions on 10 targets at 58 yards. So last question I have for you guys. Air, where are you drafted? Marquis Brown and Rashad Bateman going into next season. Can you trust either of these guys? Rashad Bateman, this is his rookie season and he's looked good when he plays. Marquis Brown, this has been a breakout season for him. He's a great value in fantasy. Where are you confident in drafting both of these guys next year? Like, what do you mean where? Like, are you asking for round or like? What round or what? Yeah, what number wide receiver? Wide receiver one, wide receiver two. Bateman for me is nothing more than a late round flyer at this point. We haven't seen it consistently. You know, and I'm thinking from like a redraft type of aspect, but we haven't seen it consistently. Mark Andrews is the number one option. Marquis Brown is, you know, probably the 1A option for Lamar Jackson. Hopefully, you know, the way that this season finished off for Marquis Brown, you know, he was so hot at the beginning of the season, but you know, it's cooled off. He's the type of player that I like to draft. I'm a running back early and often guy, then I like to hit wide receiver in the middle rounds, guys that can make that big jump. So he's somebody who I will be targeting in the middle rounds. I would be fine with him as like my wide receiver, one wide receiver to somebody who should put up decently consistent numbers and has the ability to make that jump like Cooper Cuff did this year. What about you, Simon? Like Cooper Cuff? Like Cooper Cuff. Hey, I don't think he's making a Cooper Cuff style jump, but I'll tell you, Mark, he's brown as well. Nobody said that about Cooper Cuff at the beginning of the season either, so. I think he's a very solid. Get Matthew Stafford in here and maybe. I think Cooper Cuff is going to make a Cooper Cuff like jump this year. I just feel it. I feel it. Yeah, never mind. Sorry, you guys said everything. Cooper Cuff style jump for Mark, he's brown. I just can he's a he's a wide receiver too with wide receiver one upside on every single week. And that's how I view Mark, he's brown. It's going to be you're going to get games like this where he disappears with how this offense can run. But he's he's worth that shot. He's probably in the 12 to 15 range. Yeah, I think that's right where I have him, especially Lamar coming back. You know, he won't be out next season. I think a bit of this downturn is because Lamar hasn't been playing. I've said this in the past. Lamar and Marky's Brown are like best friends. We didn't see much of Rashad Bateman until Tyler Huntley was the starter, actually, where they have more of that connection. If Lamar's the starter next year, he will be. I mean, I'm going to have Marky's Brown probably around 15 wide receiver. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, before we move on to our next game, we got some people in the chat. Patrick in here says I'm up 25 points with Devante Adams and Deontay Johnson versus Rogers and Aaron Jones. How safe should I feel? You're up 25 with Devante Adams and Deontay Johnson. I feel I feel pretty good, man. I'd feel it's not guaranteed anything can happen, but barring like an injury to one of those guys in the first quarter of the game. I would feel pretty good. Josh, you're a percentage guy. Where are you going here? Yeah. I mean, like let's take Deontay Johnson versus Aaron Jones. I'm canceling those guys out. Let's take Devante Adams versus Aaron Rogers, maybe slightly Aaron Rogers, but that's really close as well. And you got 25 points on him. I'm giving you an 81% chance of winning this game, Patrick. You're good, in my opinion. I like that a lot. That's 25 in my cushion. Yeah. I think we're all going to agree on that one, that 25 point cushion helping you out. Now, this one is tough, guys. I was looking at this one. This one hurts a little bit. I've got, so Nick here has Justin Jefferson and his opponent has Deontay Johnson and Crosby, the kicker for the Packers. He's up by five, half PPR. Is he winning? So Jefferson plus five points, or Deontay Johnson and Mason Crosby, half PPR. So if Kirk Cousins was playing, man, yeah. Kirk Cousins is not playing, but Jair Alexander is also out. The Browns past defense, even with Jair Alexander in, has been a little bit better at guarding fantasy wide receivers so far this year, which is a knock on Deontay. This one is, this one's crazy close. I'll, if I had to bet on a side, I'd bet on your side, Nick. I'll bet on your side, but it's so close. I'd give you an exactly 50.1% chance of winning this. Josh, where are you going here? I may give you a 54% chance of winning this. I don't like your side, but it's close. I don't like your side at all. The only way I see Justin Jefferson having a solid game is if the Packers get up big and there's a lot of garbage time, I'm going to give you a 25% chance. I think, I think, I hope you win, but I don't have a good feeling about that. I think they're going to create ways to get the ball on Justin Jefferson's hand. I'm not saying he's going to, you've got to lower your expectations though. Yeah, Jail, what about you? Who do you think wins? Slightly less than 50, so maybe like 48% chance. Okay. This is, this is very, very close. Yeah, but I would just give the edge to Deontay and Crosby here. Also, Mr. Scamper saying Michelle to the Jags would be interesting as Draft 5 would be super low. I think it'd be similar. It'd be similar to the Rams with Robinson and ETN there as well. Yeah, I don't know. And it's a worse offense, you know. And it's a worse offense. Way worse offense. It would be the third string in my mind. Yeah, I'm with you guys here. It depends how long Robinson's out. What kind of, what is value? Yeah, Robinson's not going to start in the year next year, you know. Guys, we're going to go ahead and move on to our next game. It is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers versus the New York Jets. The Bucks pulled this one out without Antonio Brown for the vast majority of the game. Take my shirt off and just leave. Is that what we're talking about? You know, 100%. What the hell are Antonio Brown? But I don't think anyone saw the Jets keeping this game so close. The entire game, including the sports books and including me, I mean, so Tampa Bay came into this game as 14 and a half point favorites. So New York Jets were 14 and a half point underdogs. The total was a 40 and a half point, a 48, no half, 48 point over under. And it hit the over obviously. Tampa Bay, on the Tampa Bay side of the ball, Antonio Brown. Like what? So in case you haven't heard, he just decided to take off all his shirts and throw it in the crowd, his gloves, and he just left. And Bruce Ariane said that Brown is no longer on the team. He's gone. Don't wear Antonio Brown. He don't. No one's signing Antonio Brown this year, in my opinion, maybe next year. But man, there's something going on there. Man, if I ever quit a job again, I'm doing it that way, though. I'm taking my shirt off, throwing it into a meeting room and walking out. I'm just going to, and I'll throw up deuces on my way out. That's how I'm going to do it. I saw a thing. He was so close to so many incentives in his contract, like he could have hit them next week or this week or next week. Yep. It was like 700 to thousands more dollars. It was basically a million dollars. It was three different incentives. It was catches, yardage, and touchdowns. Like he would have got it. He needed like one or two more touchdowns. A couple, you know, it's like seven more catches. Like it was crazy. But that's the lucky to you, Antonio Brown, in the future, you know. Ronald Jones, he suffered an ankle injury and didn't return to the game. No running backs were really relevant on the buck side of the ball. You were probably pretty disappointed if you started Ronald Jones, you know, against the sweet just defense. Yeah. Tom Brady, he continues to impress though. This man is 44 years old and you can make an argument that he's still the best quarterback to have on your team in the lead, right? Is Tom Brady, I want to ask you guys a question. Is Tom Brady a top five drafted quarterback going into next season? Let's see some quarterbacks I think deserve to be in this conversation. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray. Is Tom Brady a top five quarterback? Right now, I'm going to tell you, yes. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. That's kind of where the list ends for me. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott. No, no. I mean, it hasn't been like that this season. Let me tell you why. Jay said it before the show started. So, Jay, if you want to take over. You mean the number two quarterback on the week? Well, you're about to say. You mean the number two quarterback on the week? Josh, that is one game. That is one game against the New York Jets. So, if you want to take that and extrapolate across a full season, that's fine. But whenever I do analysis, I try to look at a macro scale instead of a micro scale. So, you mean the number three quarterback on the season without Aaron Antonio Brown most of the season? Aaron Rodgers will be playing without Antonio Brown and possibly without Chris Godwin next season. That leaves Mike Evans. Definitely Aaron Rodgers. I'm sorry, I meant Tom Brady. So, that's enough for me to knock him down to number seven. We've seen disappointing weeks from him this year. We've seen weeks for this offense kind of stalled and without that elite receiving core, I'm going to knock him down. And that's not a bad thing. The six quarterbacks I had ahead of them are incredible, right? Like, that's the one question, Mark. That is the big problem I have with what you're saying. Okay, I agree with you. That's the most questionable one. But the other five, I think it'd be ridiculous for you to tell me I'm ridiculous for having Kyler Murray or Justin Hurley. You're ridiculous. I agree with you, but I just want to say that. So, that's right with that. Dak, I have a problem with, but I'm fine with the others. And I don't like to give JL compliments that often, but he was one of the people who was banging the table loudest for Tom Brady coming into the season being a top five quarterback. So, thank you. What about me? What about me? You don't see JL, so. I was high on Tom Brady, but I think JL was probably a little high. No, he specifically said top five. So, I got to give him credit there. But I'm with Simon. He's more of a, you know, seven, eight-ish. It just, unless, you know, they bring in another wide receiver, Antonio Brown's probably gone. If they re-signed Chris Godwin, I would feel a lot more comfortable saying that. But just with all the question marks, I can't put him in the top five right now. I still think I wouldn't, even with Chris Godwin. I think that the five that Simon said are in some order my top five. Take Dak out of it, the other five. The reason I wouldn't put Tom in the top five, I haven't just outside the top five going next season is because of the touchdown rate. Because the Tampa Bay lead all teams in passing touchdowns. And his touchdown rate is extremely high. He doesn't have that rushing floor that a lot of these guys do that upside. And I think that some of these guys will bounce back. I think it was a little bit more of a weirder year. I, but that, and that the reason why is I still think Tom Brady can do that next year. I still think he can throw a lot of touchdowns next season. But I think some of these other guys are going to probably edge him out of the top five. I'm just talking about being drafted. Yeah. Yeah. I won't draft him as a top five guy, but he's right on the outside peeking into that top five. Like, Hey guys, let me in. You mean I have to rush for a hundred yards in a season to get in this room? That's what that's what he's saying out there. Doing that creepy face from the Tony Dungey. Again, the number, number three quarterback this season. Yeah. I'm not arguing with you about that. Tom, it's not a good idea. No, no. But, but I'm sorry. I forgot that there's a jet side of the ball here in this equation. You have nothing to be sorry about. Well, are we getting into areas? Before we move on, Alpert said, Rojo, the biggest bust of the day. Yeah. We did mention him. Yeah. It's the only thing. The only reason I hesitate to call him a bust is an injury. If he was in there, the whole game, it didn't play well. Yeah. I just feel, you know, but all things considered, yeah, but the injury is what caused it. Yeah. Also, we have a question here. Guys, I'm trying to hit the questions about championship week before we go further. Just because this is, this is for all the marbles, I'm guessing. AJ Dillon or MVS tonight, JL. What do you think? I tricked you, didn't I? I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with AJ Dillon. When it's, when it's close between a running back and a wide receiver and a flex position, I'm going to tend towards the running back because I feel like those points are a little safer. And especially in this matchup, I like, I like the matchup for, I like the matchup for both guys, but I'm going to go with AJ Dillon. I'm, I'm with you, JL. That's why I wish we got a little bit more information. Are you down 10? Are you up 10? Do you need 10 points? Do you need 30 points? If you need 10 points, I'm going AJ Dillon, no questions asked. If you need 30 points, I'm plugging Scantlin in and crossing my fingers and hoping for a crazy game. Jay, what about you? Set up perfect. It's, it's a classic safety versus upside play. If you need the safety play, go with Dillon. If you need the upside, go MVS. Josh, yeah. And I mean, if it's even like 20 points, I'll go MVS at the, you know, if you need 20 points. I'm going to lean MVS regardless. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to lean MVS regardless myself. Josh, it seems like you're feeling pretty good about MVS. Didn't say it. I'm, I'm think we're all thinking PPR with that. It wasn't specified, but just to clarify that. I think MVS has a good, I do. Yeah. And Mr. Scamper's in here saying injuries aren't bussed. Yeah. I do agree with you. An injury you can't really qualify as a bus. That hurts your fantasy team, but it's not the amount of performing. And Jay, Jay said that as well. Sorry. On to the jet side of the ball. On the jet side of the ball. Braxton Berrios, he killed it. Michael Carter, he got knocked out of the game with a concussion. That was really disappointing. If you started Michael Carter, I'm sure a lot of people were kind of exhausted and had a pretty good game. Yeah. He had one really big, great play. That was awesome. Elijah Moore didn't play. I think we have to keep that in mind in terms of Braxton Berrios, because you could, Braxton Berrios has looked good the last few weeks, but Elijah Moore, I think is, I mean, he is the normal log viewer. There's no question. So next season, Elijah Moore, in terms of rookie wide receivers, there's Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Devante Smith, then Elijah Moore for me. So, I don't want to spend too much time on here. We can move on. We'll move on to our next game. The next thing we're going to be talking about is the Las Vegas Raiders versus the Indianapolis Colts. The Raiders came out on top 23 to 20. Yeah. And Derek Carr played okay from a real live perspective. Won the game, which is most important to them, but fantasy, you're disappointed. 255 yards of touchdown, two picks. He started off the season so hot. There was even some talk for MVP considerations, but here recently, I don't know if it's Darren Waller going down, losing the deep threat with Henry Ruggs, but he's just really ended the season on a whimper. But who hasn't ended the season on a whimper is Jale. I would give you credit again today. You're right. I haven't. I've had a great end of season. Hunter Renfro has just continued. Yeah, I don't know. It's just some guy. Seven catches, 76 yards, nine targets, another touchdown. It is his, let me see. I believe his third game on the season that he finished with over 20 points. I lost my notes. Let me see if I can find those. Let's see. In a PPR, a full point. Yes, PPR, third game over 20 points, eighth game this season over 15 points in a PPR format. I'd receive a seven on the week. A lot went right for him this season. Ruggs was released. Darren Waller was injured. He was pretty much the last man standing, the receiving game of this offense. So from a dynasty perspective, is Hunter Renfro a buy, a sell, or a hold going into this off season? And Joc- Sell his ass. Sell it. Not just his ass. Him. Did you ask me first? I'm sorry. I did. I did, yes. Okay, cool. That's all right. I think he's a sell. No Darren Waller. No really significant weapons around him. I don't even have a ton of faith in Derek Carr. If you can get top 20 wide receiver value in a dynasty week for Hunter Renfro, I'm about it. I'm not saying he's a mussel. I think he's a good player. He's a very talented player. I'm not trying to crap on him. I'm just saying. Shush your mouth. I brought this up. I kind of compared him to Brandon Iuk from last season. You know, he's the last man standing more or less. You know, Brandon Iuk has been fine this season, right? But not where you draft to him. You weren't happy with it. So Hunter Renfro, I think he's a little bit more of a sell. I view him as a hold. Because I don't expect the best season out of him next year. But Darren Waller is 29 years old. He's getting older. Mr. Stamper. He's a whole person. He's a whole person. He's a whole person. But I view him as a hold. Because I think next year, like if you have him on your team, he's a hold. Because I think next year, he's going to be a buy. This is a player that I see finding success long term in the NFL. He's one of the best route runners there is in the NFL. He's fun to watch. And that's not a skill that depreciates with age, the kind of way that speed does, right? So I think he's a very valuable dynasty asset. But that being said, next year, if Waller is healthy all season, I think you can expect a much milder version of Renfro. But Waller is getting up there in age. Hunter Renfro is still pretty young. He's a wide receiver that you want on your team. I'm holding and waiting for that buy window next year for Hunter Renfro. If I don't have him on my team next year, I'm going to be sending out offers like crazy. Because I expect that to work here. I'm somewhere in between these two guys. I'm somewhere in between these two guys. I do think that Hunter Renfro is just talented. He's talented. He's going to be successful. He's going to provide you great fantasy performances going forward. But if you can get him at a top, like Josh said, a top 20 wide receiver price, or I'm sorry, if you could sell him at a top, yeah, absolutely, absolutely do that. Because the circumstances will change. There will be less volume for him that talent will be able to necessarily overcome. Yeah. And I'm right on board with you guys. And Simon, I think you're pretty much saying the same. If you can get the right value for him, he's to sell, but not somebody necessarily looking to sell. Yeah. If you can get top 20 value, top 15 value, by all means do that as fast as you can. I'm with you guys on that one. Josh Jacobs pretty much did what he's done all season. Pretty mediocre 63 yards and a touchdown. You know, if he's your RB2. That's the epitome of Josh Jacobs. Right. Four catches, 17 yards. Like he has a solid game. Like it wasn't anything you're right home about, but you know, what was expected to Josh Jacobs coming into the NFL? You definitely have to be disappointed. But as RB2, he's fine. You know, nothing too special on the colt side of the ball. Carson Wentz mediocre game, a typical Carson Wentz game as well. 148 yards and a touchdown. Jonathan Taylor, 20 rushes, 108 yards and a touchdown. He also caught a ball for six yards. I'm just going to ask the question that everybody's going to be asking all off season. Is Jonathan Taylor the RB1 in dynasty? Josh. Absolutely. You're not Josh. No doubt. No doubt. Move on. Is there anybody else in consideration? Not here's the Andre Swift, Christian McAfrey, but no. He's in a tier of his own. You still have CMC up there? I do. I'm just saying like, I think the perception is he's up there. Jonathan Taylor's in a tier of his own for me. A complete tier of his own. I'm more in line with Josh. I think Jonathan Taylor's in a tier of his own for dynasty. I'll put him up there as well. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you guys as well. Michael Pittman had an okay game, six catches, 47 yards, double digits. He's another one that started the season off hot, but kind of faded down the stretch. But you know, when Carson Wentz is only completing 60, a 16 pants, Pat. 16 pants. 16 pants a year. There's a lot of pants. That is so many pants. He completed more pants. That's like a pants like a game almost, so that makes sense. That's true. You're right. He's wasteful though. I don't know. I got the pants pretty quickly as well. Yeah, I have two pants. They could afford it. It was a, you know, pretty uneventful fantasy game. That's pretty much all that there is on this one. He said pants per game. Pants per game, guys. And speaking of pants per game, pants per game, PPG. Guys, we are going to move on to our next game, which is the Miami Dolphins versus the Tennessee Titans. A real close game here, but the Titans, Titans fighting for first, for first in the conference. Miami Dolphins fighting to stay alive for the playoffs. And the Titans were the only one that won that fight today. The Dolphins couldn't get much going. On the Dolphin side of this ball, you were disappointed if you started anyone. I'm sorry for everyone that I said you could have confidence starting two of this week. It did not pan out. And because of that, you couldn't, Jalen Waddell, Devontae Parker, all of the receiving options here struggled pretty heavily with the way this offense struggled. Anything you guys have to add on the Miami side of this ball? Disappointing. Disappointing. I don't think there's too much else to be said right there. I think it's a knock towards the Titans, looking towards the playoffs that they get Derek Henry back. Just be able to score 34 points. It gives us great Miami defense. Yeah, it's, well, yeah, this Miami defense that's been performing very well recently, right? This Miami defense has been killing it over the second half of the season. The number three defense, I think, what I'm looking at in the year. And Mr. Scampers wants to know, do 16 pants have 16 or 32 light holes? 60, 32. 32. 32. 48. There's a third leg. Unless there's a pants. Simon, this is a family show. I did not even mean it like that, Jay. You're the one who just turned this in. It's a family show. Family show. They're Unipants, then only 16. Only 60. Unipants, you know, as we all like to wear. The Tennessee Titans though, Deon to Foreman had himself a game. 26 carries 132 yards and a rushing touchdown. Can you imagine the fantasy lineups like that are going to win championships this week with Deon to Foreman, Rashad, Penny, Boston Scott, and Boston Scott? Like you're literally like naming a lineup in my fantasy champion. That's absolutely nuts. Top three running backs this week, where Rashad, Penny, Darrell Williams, and Boston Scott. God, no, I didn't know. No, I didn't. But Darrell Williams or Deon to Foreman was the focal point of this offense this week. They only threw 18 passes in Ryan Tannehill with what he did. He did very well, but he only completed 13 passes for 120 yards and two touchdowns. He didn't screw up. He didn't screw up. And that's the problem with Ryan Tannehill. He's a talented quarterback, but this is a team that wants to run the ball first. And if they can, they're going to. Sometimes they haven't been able to this season with Derek Henry out. Today they were able to. Derek Henry is expected back next year. Or not just next year, right? He's expected back for the playoffs. But he said he could come back next week. I think it's kind of dumb. What do you guys think? We were talking about the best teams earlier. Do you think the Tennessee Titans with a healthy Derek Henry? Jay, you were the highest on them. It sounded like, do you think they have a chance of coming out on top in this conference in the playoffs? Yeah, I really do. They've already, you know, they beat the Chiefs at the beginning of the season. You know, you could say Julio Jones is hurt, but he hasn't done much of anything this season. AJ Brown's back. You know, they've got Foreman and Hilliard who can spell. Mr. Skever is another of what I should say. That made me travel. That's how we feel. You have that in common with all of us. You're watching the perfect show. Don't tell him. I could definitely, I could see that winning the Super Bowl. I really could. That's crazy, but I can't disagree with you, right? Like, I think you're right. But this team, whenever it's clicking, looks really good. There's not much else to talk about on this game. Sorry, AJ Brown disappointing. So if you started him, you're sad, but you lowered expectations for AJ Brown. And you know what? He didn't even meet those lowered expectations. But that's okay. We're going to move on to our next game. The next game is the Atlanta Falcons at the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills. Yeah, this was a fun game. It was snowy. It was very snowy. Buffalo got off. It got off to a hot start with Buffalo. Score two touchdowns in the first quarter. And then nothing in the second quarter. It's got a safety to start with today. Falcons started off the game. Yeah, with a safety. And then, I believe, a score in the second. And they followed up. They were on top at halftime. So this is a fun game. I don't think anyone was expecting that. They were expecting Bills' domination here. The Bills did come out on top, 29 to 15 to the Falcons. But it's an interesting game. It was an interesting game. Let me pull up the stats here. Not have them ready. Matt Ryan, a little bit disappointing. I don't even know if it's disappointing at this point. I feel like it's just expected out of him. I'm disappointing you for putting him as your starter in Championship Week. How about that? Not you, JL. Me. Okay, I was going to say. Whoever did so, you know. I saw JL going through all the rosters. I was like making up all my leagues like, oh no, I didn't set many of them. Oh no. Mike Davis, he was the top runner on this team. Does not matter. Cordero Patterson pretty disappointing. Nine attempts, 28 yards. Two receptions on two targets, 24 yards. God, what's going on with Cordero Patterson, guys? It's a punishment. It's a punishment for 0RB fantasy managers, is what Cordero Patterson has been this season. Because you were taking credit for it. Because you were taking credit for it too early. He got you all the way to playoffs, and then he said, here's a stab in the stomach. Here's a stab in the stomach. Here's a stab in the stomach. But I don't know. I don't know what's going on with Cordero Patterson and why they stopped using him so much. But there's been a clear change in how they use him in this offense the past couple of weeks, and it's bad. It's bad for fantasy managers. It's bad for Cordero Patterson. It seems to be bad for the Falcons, but I don't know. It's ridiculous to me. The Falcons knew what they weren't doing anything in the playoffs three weeks ago. They said they were going to limit Cordero Patterson's workload, and that's exactly what they did. I think they won him for next season. Do you think they bring someone in? Or do you think they're going to just... Yeah, they're going to bring a lot of people in. Cordero Patterson will be on the Falcons next year, and I think will be good for fantasy. Okay. Do you think... Do you think there's a world where he's more of like a nine hinds next year, where like he comes in and like relief duties instead of like this main guy? I think there absolutely is a world. I think he'll be more involved in the passing game next season than he has been the last three weeks, you know, more of what we saw earlier in the season. So that brings up an interesting question. Where are you confident or comfortable drafting Cordero Patterson then going into next season, assuming that's how it plays out, that he's still in the roster? Josh's face says it all. Is he... Are you waiting like round ten? Can you still play him at running back and wide receiver in mostly? Yeah, I know. ESPN doesn't allow it, but like Sleeper does allow it. Yeah, I'm not going to be drafting him too high, but again, he's probably going to be a really good value that you can get if you can play both positions. And I'll probably end up with him in space. I'll probably draft him around... No, never mind. I take back everything I was about to say. I'm completely entirely torn on this. It's going to be after Kareem Hunt, because I imagine him playing the Kareem Hunt role to a smaller extent in a different offense. He's going to be the second back in that offense. I just can't imagine the world where he's the first back again next year, who's going to have big games. He's going to have huge games like Kareem Hunt does, but again, I think he'll be used less than Kareem Hunt is in the Russian game. He's going to be Kareem Hunt who rushes a little bit less, I think is what we're going to get out of Cordero Patterson. So it's going to be probably about a round after Kareem Hunt is where I'll draft Cordero Patterson. And I don't think you'll be able to get him that late. I think people are going to see what he did this season. You're probably right. I don't see myself having much Cordero Patterson next year. I think his draft capital is going to be too much. It's going to be a fun conversation, though. Yeah, it will be a lot of fun talking about it. Yeah, all offseason. Russell Gage, he had three receptions with five targets, 50 yards. Also disappointing the main guy on this team, though, with no Calvin Ridley. How are you guys feeling about Russell Gage going into this offseason? I don't feel. I don't feel him. I don't feel nothing. We're not feeling each other, you know? We're not feeling each other. We split up and go into next season, hopefully Calvin Ridley's back, get Russell Gage out of here. All right. Well, we move on to the Buffalo side of this ball. Josh Allen had a pretty good game, 11 completions on 26 attempts, 120 yards, three interceptions, three interceptions, 15 rushing attempts, 81 yards, and two rushing touchdowns saved his day. It was a snowy game, so keep that in mind. Devin Singletary, he's pretty interesting. 23 attempts, rushing attempts for 110 yards and two rushing touchdowns. And I wanted to bring this up yet. Mr. Scamper, sir, thoughts on Singletary, long term. How do you guys feel about Singletary going into next season? It seems like he's the guy over Zach Moss. The Bills are trusting him. Are you higher on Singletary now after this second half of the season surge? I'll draft him well over quarter. I'll add or something. Also, just a note, Fandu will come in here reminding us, Patterson is a free agent this offseason. Yeah. Just the fact that they limited his workload, they were trying to keep him healthy. I really believe he's that. Yeah. Really. I think so as well. And I can see him going back there because they're finally the team to unlock the way that he's able to be used. It's the first team to be able to do it, right? So like, I don't, from both perspectives, I don't see why not, you know. In terms of Singletary, I trust, isn't necessarily the word that I'm looking for. I do like him a little better going into the next season, but they already had him on this team. Then they drafted Zach Moss. Then they signed Matt Breda. So I, you know, Josh Allen is always going to be the running back one on this team. I wouldn't mind him as, you know, like a RB3, RB4, getting him late in drafts type of thing, but I just, I'm a little more confident, but I definitely don't trust this usage. I view him kind of how people viewed Ronald Jones going into this season. Like this guy that we expect to be the starter, but there's a lot of uncertainty around whether he's actually going to have the starting role, whether he's going to keep it, whether there's going to be that level of success on a high-powered offense. So the upside is there, right? Like we've got that upside of the offense, but I'll probably draft him similar, like seventh, eighth round is this guy that's a backup for my starting running backs or on a zero RB team, a guy that's just getting volume that I can plug in. He actually probably seems like more like Leonard Farnett to me. You know, just like end of the season, he turned it on, he looked like the guy, you know, like, I think he's going to be the guy going in next season. I'm pretty confident. You're pretty confident. I'm, I'm definitely, it sounds like I'm more confident than you guys. Yeah, I think, I think a little bit. Guys, before we talk about this game more, we got a question from that guy, Kevin. He says, up by 21, that guy, Kevin. Oh, God, can you believe that guy? I'm great about this, Kevin. It's up by 21. It's my Deontay versus Najee thoughts. I'm with Josh. 90% chance. So Najee would have to outscore Deontay Johnson by 21 points. I'll take your side all day. That's not saying it's impossible. Najee, we've seen crazy games, but you've got a really, really. 99.89, I'm going to go throw a percentage out there. It's, you would need a miracle to, or the other guy would need a miracle to. If your opponent wins, it'll be one of those stories they tell for the rest of the office. Yes, yes. I think Deontay outscores Najee. I don't think that much. It's pretty close, but. If it was just Deontay versus Najee, I'd take Najee, but it's close. So there you go. Okay, guys, we are going to be moving on to our next game. The next game we have is the last 1pm game, the Jacksonville Jaguars versus the new England Patriots. And if you guys notice, I've been nailing it with England lately. I haven't said England one time in like three weeks. So, Braddy. You were an amazing person, Ivan. Thank you. This game was 50 to 10. The Patriots scored 50 freaking points on the Jaguars who are only able to put together 10 points. The Jaguars came into this game with 17 and a half point under dogs, and the Patriots well covered that spread. It was a 41 and a half point over under, and the Patriots did that all by themselves. And more. The only person you were really confident about starting on the Jaguars so the ball was probably Darae Ogunwale, and he really saved your game by scoring that receiving touchdown, right? But it was pretty much very disappointing otherwise. Maybe you started to look for on Treadwell and you were okay with his production. Trevor Lahr just didn't look for it. It was a good defense. He did that. If you started to look for on Treadwell and your fantasy championship. I would be so impressed. Jail, I want to hear what you have to think about. Darae Ogunwale. He's great. He's great. He was fine. He was fine. I think he's probably a top 20 running back right now. So there you go. Like he was a fine start when it came down to it. Almost makes you want to say. I'm going to take away from this game. They won the championship when it comes down to it. Trevor Lahr didn't look great, but the Patriots have a great defense, right? So on the Patriots side of the ball, Matt Jones did look great. The whole team looked fantastic everywhere. They looked fantastic everywhere. Jacks to go. Yeah, but how many teams have scored 50 points against Jacksonville? I don't think any so far. That's true. That's quite an accomplishment. Matt Jones continues to impress with his accuracy, completing 22 passes, 30 attempts. I think he's the most accurate rookie quarterback ever. 227 yards, three touchdowns. He was also the most accurate quarterback ever in college football history last season. So Matt Jones continues to impress me. Guys, I want to ask you this question. Who is the offensive rookie of the year? Jamar Chase for Matt Jones. You could mention Kyle Pitts and Jalen Waddle in this conversation. Sure, sure. But it's one of these. No, you can't. You can mention it. I think it's Matt Jones. I think this is one of the years where last season I think it should have been Justin Jefferson, but the quarterbacks generally tend to edge out close players at other positions this year. I think it should go to the quarterback and it will go to the quarterback. Matt Jones has been really impressive with what he's been asked to do and what he's accomplished with it. What about you, Joe? Jamar Chase or Matt Jones? Jalen's a rookie there. It's close. It's close, but... It's really close. I think it's really freaking close. It's not the next week. Who is the better game next week, right? I think Jalen does it when I answer. I think the tiebreaker is... I'll probably go... I'm going to go Jamar Chase. That's the more fun answer. I'm going to go Matt Jones. I think it's the whole quarterback thing. Gentlemen's bet. Let's go! I'll put it on the board after I finish this up. Whoever loses has to eat a bowl of butter noodles. Or is it you winning by eating more butter noodles? Yeah. You mean you're going to give Jalen a gift? Well, Jalen's my team. Jalen and I are going to go with Jamar Chase. Jay and Simon are going to go with Matt Jones. Jay, just to finish up with this game, Damian Harris, he just had a dream. Harris, of course. It was a blowout. So, Remandry Steven got the majority of carries. They didn't want to risk this with Damian Harris. Luckily, Harris was still a bit of a get-in-the-hand zone twice before he came out of the game. So, he was not disappointed whatsoever. Do you think there will be a clear starter for the Patriots next season? Are we going to have one of those classic Patriots running back rooms where you're nervous every week? You're like, yeah, Damian Harris had a great week last week, but the week before was Remandry Stevenson, and I just don't know. I think it's going to be more of that. Honestly, the game here keeps the majority. I've always tended to stay away from the New England backfield, but I really like both of these guys. I think that as long as your expectations are that, that you could very easily have a dud game. They worked really well in tandem. I had a flex play, a bi-week replacement. I'd be all about having either one of these guys on my team, all depending on the draft capital. Yeah, great. I don't think this is the same confusing Patriots backfield we've seen. That's not to say that both backs won't be used, but I think it's going to be a both backs kind of thing. You know what I mean? In the past, it's been- Like a Melvin Gordon-Givante Williams kind of deal. That's exactly what the next words out of my mouth were going to be. Okay, gotcha. Maybe more of a like 70-30 or 65-35 split than what the Broncos leaning towards Damian, but I think both of these guys are going to be fantasy-valuable next year. Damian Harris being slightly more fantasy-valuable. I tend to agree with you. I could see just like the Broncos this year. Yeah. But let's move on. Um, but yeah, if I had to choose one, it'd be Damian Harris by a decent amount, honestly. He's impressed me. They wouldn't have been- Rhino, I don't know, man. We'd love the Rhino. Dynasty, that's a different question. Then they're like, Eve, I can't decide a dynasty. Next year, though, I'll go with Damian Harris. Yeah. Guys, we got- I think we got time to get through one more game before we jump off today. J.L. doesn't even want to talk about this game. He's just upset about it. He said there's no way of discussing this one. The San Francisco 49ers took down the Texans 23-7 in this matchup, right behind Trey Lance, kind of. Well, kind of. He had a pretty solid game, you know, 249 passing yards, two touchdowns. He added 31 yards on the ground. So, you know, if you had to start him, he was solid. I think for the future, you have to be excited for what's coming with this offense, if- which most people think Jimmy Garoppolo's out the door. So, should be Trey Lance's team next year. We'll just go ahead and jump into it. Trey Lance is a top-blank quarterback in 2022. Simon, we'll start with you. Oh, no. If he's the starter, which we fully expect him to be, he's probably flirting with that top-12 line because of the rushing floor. It's a cheat code in fantasy football. Quarterbacks that rush like that are- If they're the starter for 16 games and you rush like Trey Lance does, you're like almost guaranteed to be a top-12 quarterback. So, that's how I'm going to be viewing him, but it'll be in that back end of the top-12. Jail? I'll put him in top. I'll put him in top- In top. Top-18. Ken? I think he's a locked and loaded top-15 quarterback with a lot of upsides. It's probably the right answer. Because like, I'm going to take him over to Ryan Tannill, over Derek Carr, or over these guys just because of the upside. I'm not saying at the end of the season, he's 100% going to have more fantasy points than those guys. Those guys are safer plays, but at the quarterback position, especially when you're only starting one, I'm going to shoot for the upside and Trey Lance is probably going to keep inching towards that top-12 quarterback the more and more we hear about him being the starter for the 49ers, with all these weapons too. Right, and that's the thing for me. I'm really excited about him. I think he can be- I have him in the top-10 next year with all the weapons. I think Shanahan's one of the best at, you know, scheming around players' talents. With all that, I'm really excited for Trey Lance next year if he is the starter. I can see him being a top-10 quarterback for me next season. I pulled the stats off the screen. They weren't updating, so a lot of the fantasy scores were incorrect right there, so I just pulled those off so we're not confusing anybody as we talk about it. I can see you guys so much better now. I can see clearly now the stats are gone. Ah, enjoy your win sign. Thank you. Absolutely, absolutely. Other than that, Elijah Mitchell had a pretty solid game, 119 yards. It was encouraging to see after the injuries that he's been dealing with. Hibbo Samuel, you know, didn't do a ton on the ground, but he was able to catch a touchdown 63 yards. Ah, you got a solid game. Pretty much George Kittle was the only one that was really a disappointed one catch for 29 yards. He probably very easily could have helped you get to the championship, but let you down in the championship game. The only thing I really want to talk about on the Texan side of the ball is do you guys think Davis Mills is the starter next year and are you willing to draft him in a Super Flex League if that's the case? Yes, and yes, very late. I think he should be the starter. I think it would be silly of the Texans to go spend a ton of money when they've got so many holes on their roster instead of just seeing what they got with Dave. Like he has shown me enough this year that if I were the Texans, I would want to see what he can do with the full season because they're not competing for a Super Bowl next year. That roster is decimated. So build up the rest of the roster and see what you got with Davis Mills. And you know what? Since he's a starting quarterback in the NFL, if he is, I'll draft him at the end of drafts as my third quarterback in Super Flex Leagues. I'm with you, Simon. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's going to really depend on what they do with the Deshaun Watson trade if that happens. Yeah, I can't imagine them going out and drafting someone. I don't know that they're going to have the picks to even do that. So I'm not even that interested. What are they going to do? I'm going to give Deshaun Watson's out of there. Yeah, I think both the team and Deshaun Watson went out. Right. Yeah, but a trade could include a QV, right? A QV. It could. Absolutely. If it's Miami like that, you can see it. It absolutely could. You're absolutely correct. Guys, before we jump off today, I know Sunday Night Football has started. Everyone wants to go watch that. We've got a question here from James. Well, he's given us what he's up by and then want to know if he wins. He's up 61 points. So that's a big lead in half PPR. But this is an IDP league. He's opponent is Nick Chubb and then Campbell for the Packers and Fitzpatrick DB. Who's going to win this game? Josh, what do you think? I know these games were not IDP experts. Yeah, yeah. Just a heads up. I know these IDP leagues, they can have some different kind of scoring, but I can't assume that these defensive players are projected to score, are typically going to score more than 20 points, right? So let's put Nick Chubb at 20 points. I'm not presuming that these defensive players are going to score 20 themselves. So I think you have a great chance of winning this game. I'm putting your odds at 72% chance. That's exactly the number I had in my mind, Josh. I was going to say 72 right after you went on that one. Also, Mr. Scamber is in your saying, agree Davis has been an IDP to Rod. Yeah, Davis has been good, but I hope to Rod Taylor finds a place to play next year. Guys, it's going to be tough for him. It's going to be tough. Guys, that is going to be it for us this Sunday night. Thank you so much, everyone who joined along with us for the FanDuel Sunday night recap. We'll be back next week. Same time, same place, 7pm Eastern time on the FanDuel YouTube and Twitch channels. So make sure you have liked this video and subscribe to YouTube or subscribe to FanDuel on YouTube and follow them over on Twitch. We'll be back at that time. Anything else before we jump off, guys? Trainings for Sunday. And I love you guys. Happy New Year, everyone. Adios. Bye-bye. Peace.