 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town. Talking to the sisters, I'm hooking them down. Gang hop out, then we clearing the crowd. Fuck this, I'ma act the fuck up. Everything dead, I ain't tapping them up. Feel the way you get caught the fuck up. Thumbs up, rock on me, act on my call. All right, hey guys. So, we're on a new episode of Talk That's Town. Today, we have a very, very special guest. Not an artist, but we have an artist mom with us. Hello. For the shirt, you could tell. So, um, let us know your name. Hey, my name is Jackie, AKA Mama Flock. The one and only. What's going on, guys? The one and only. So, um, let's start a little bit from the beginning. Like, give us a little walkthrough of, like, how, I guess, music transpired for Kay. Honestly, I don't know what to say with that one right there. Because he was not into music like that to see him become some type of rapper. So, you were shocked? All the way shocked. That was a whole left field. So, what was he working on before? He wanted to actually do clothing designs and stuff like that. Okay. I had him in boxing because that's what we do. Okay. So, things like that, but never, nothing of music, ever. I didn't even know he could even do anything like that. Honestly. So, walk us through, like, your first, I guess, musical experience. Like, how'd you see it when you saw it coming together? No, the first time I heard something, my oldest son was the one who came to me, was like, Mom, did you hear your son? I'm like, who? He's like, hello, your other son Kay. So, I'm like, where am I hearing him? Like, what are you talking about? He was like, he's doing music on YouTube. He's rapping. But I see his face is serious, not like laughing like, you know, he sounds stupid and whatever. So, and I'm like, for real? He's like, Mom, for real? He's like, he's sound good too. So, let me see. He pulls out the YouTube. I'm looking and I'm like, wow. I say, not for nothing. Not to my own horn, but my son's sound real good. Like, he's sound better than a lot of guys that's actually signed nowadays. And I'm like, not for nothing, he kind of sound like a pop smoke with that voice. So, I'm like, that's cool. Well, I hope he keeps up with that. That's what he really wants to do. That's what's giving him an inspiration. Then, the more the merrier. And he was supportive like the whole way, I guess. The whole entire way. I tell them that's what's going to keep you out of trouble. No problem. Let's go with it. I'm with it. And he kept on and kept on. And then I see he starts to get serious when he was coming to me. Damn yeah, every day I need $200. I need $300. I need $600 for what? For studio time. And I'm there like, but I just gave like $300 for studio. He's like, mom, I got you. Trust me. I got you. I got this. I got this. And I'm like, okay. I'm like, all right. You know, I'm not working right now. This COVID took everybody out of surprise. I'm like, but I do got money saved. But that's all I have. I have to like live with this. Okay. Mom, got you. Mom, got you. Watch. Watch mom. He was passionate from the beginning. Yeah. Real passionate. So since I, yeah, I used to argue with him and make him get mad and be like, no. And then make him come back a little later on and ask again. Yeah. Because I really wanted to really make sure that that's what he was really doing with the money. I was giving him, you know, I already went through a whole bunch of stuff with the typical boys. So it's just like, if I give you this $300, you sure it's going to be for that? You're not going to just go hang with your friends or whatever. No. So then you saw the music videos. I started seeing more and more, more and more. And then the money kept going up and up asking. So I'm like, okay, but why the money's going up? He's like, just watch mom, the videos and this and that. He's like, you're going to see him watch. And one day he sure enough came to me on three way like, look, and I'm like, I'm not trying to be funny, but who are these white people? And he's just like, mom, these are the people that I'm like, all right, well, my bad. I still was not believing it. Like. So he called you with the label and all that and you still wasn't. No, I didn't believe it at all. I was like, no, because me growing up and me seeing rappers and stuff like that, seeing how hard it was for them to get on. So, yeah, get put on. It was just like, that is not that easy for anybody to just get put on. So I was just like, whatever. Okay. And then he was just doing it by himself. Like he was making his own little ways of finding resources and how to get to where he is at now that I had to respect it. So I was just like, and everybody used to come to me like, Oh, you know, your son is, and I'm just like, don't you know your son? And I'm like, So people was already coming up to you. Yeah. And I'm lost in the source. I'm the only one lost in the source. Like, I don't know. So I guess when did you like get with the source? I want to say, like when did you like get with it? You knew the white people was legit. On the second call with them. And that was with Nico. I love him to death. Okay. That was with them. And I was just like, Oh, then they was like, Oh, you have a million dollar kid. I'm sitting here like, No, he's not a million dollars because he costs more than that. There's no numbers for him. But granted, and they kept on. And I'm just there like, he's like, no, for real, you're going to watch and see. You know, he's only 17 soon. You get I'm just like, All right. Yeah. Sounds nice. And I'm like, Because you know how people tend to lie. So you just didn't want his hopes. Yeah. So I was just like, and I'm like, Hey, you know, and he's like, I got this. I know what I'm doing. And I'm like, you don't want to know. I got this. I know what I'm doing. You always missed that. You got to know what you're doing. But I'm been the same way all my life. I got this. I know what I'm doing. So I'm pretty sure he had it. So and like I said, I kept going up. All the way up. All the way up. And when that paper sign thing came, well, I was just like, but I still still still, I was not believing it. I went to dinner with them. I'm with them in their face. And I'm still like, because it's so hard to believe y'all. And they're like, you're looking at us like you don't believe what's happening. I'm like, No, they're like, watching a couple of years. You're going to be on your booty stuff. Like when is my car? Why is my car not here? And I'm like, I know how to drive. I don't know. They're like, no, watch, I'm not really into that bougie stuff, whatever. But yeah, the different type of lifestyle, it's yes, it is way more. More to yourself. Yes. It's just better. And it should have just been that way from the get, not only just being in the entertainment and like that. I mean, I feel everybody should just be on a game. Definitely, definitely, definitely. So, so he been passionate about music. So like, I guess what was I want to say the first gift or gesture he gave to you? Because you already saved this amount of money. So what was that first gesture or gift that he was like, oh, this is really giving back or, you know, I mean, are you just proud to just see him going up? No, I'm proud. I'm more than proud to see my son do it by himself. Okay. And because he had management. No, I mean, yeah, but he manages himself too. Okay. Don't play. He's like me. Nobody can just tell us what to do. And that's just it. It goes our way or highway. Right. So, yeah, and I was going to say, and what also happened was people say that he's super supportive of his friends. So like, he's was helping his friends along his career. He was trying to manage other artists while still pursuing his career. But did you know any of the friends he was helping or? Yes, I do. Yeah. I know Dougie. I know, I know them all. So like, what's some early memories? Do you remember them like rapping in the house or it was on some, they want to go to the studio? No, that boys never wrapped in my house. They was just in there in my, in there in that room, a whole bunch of boys. Boys being boys. Yeah. All sweaty and, you know, listening to music, me being who I am letting them know, like, why is there like no girls in here? You don't have no girls to be with. Like, why are y'all here boys? Like, weird, but whatever. But that's just how I know them. Like, I know them since like nine, 10, 11 years old. They was growing up. Yeah. Just hanging out in the room. I actually heard about, I think it was beloved that was doing the music when my son was in the group home, put away when he came home. Beloved took him and was like, you know, he's doing, he see that he's doing music. So he was like, like jump on it. Like, this is what we're doing. Get on it. So he said he was in a group home at first. So how did, how did that transition into him coming back home with you? Not simple. He did what he had to do. And that was that. Doing his thing. Okay. All right. So, you know, typical mishaps that happen with teenagers, kids, something that bad. Yes. All that stuff. Yeah. So he's always worked through, I want to say, problems, I guess. Not my son's good. Yeah. He always worked through the issues. Everything. Yeah. He makes sure he might go through struggle, quick, second, but he sits down, relax, thinks, focus up and then know what's, you know, what's going on and fixes it. So, um, so of course, like I'm, so as things was going up, as things kept arising, how was it? We found out, I guess the news of the arrest. So was it a phone call? Yeah. Or, you can just kind of the new, when you start a story. No, it was a phone call. And then from there, that's it. But, as I said before, he works through all those issues. So, he's going to work through this one too. Of course. Positively. That's God's gift right there. Mm-hmm. So, um, a lot of people feel like, rappers are often targeted by police and things like that. And in the media, it's trying to paint out drill to be this, that thing. All right, drill's been a long time ago with the same bullshit. So, cut it out now because there's a whole bunch of kids doing dumb shit. Please, I should have cut drill out a long time ago then. Yeah. So, that doesn't bother you? No. That drill stuff does not bother me at all. Yeah, because people are still supporting him and still. I got a lot of little kids that write me on IG that say my son's music inspired them. And I have to, I have to ask, like, how? He's so real and he's so positive and he's just so, the energy that he brings out and, you know, he's gotta be known so it's like, just be you. Like, you know, just, don't be afraid. The music is just an expression. Yeah, the expression is just music. Yeah. So, people definitely are taking the music to, to literal. I mean, if you want to sit there, do it like again, back in the days, if you want to take it literal, that's a lot of music back in the days when they speak. They actually did things and also got want to jail for it. I don't know I just find it real dumb and irrelevant to sit there even bring that up in the air with drill music All of a sudden don't know the media and that's what's messing up Yes, the way that it's being portrayed. Yes, it's messed up everything all types of ways Yeah, but um, yeah, but kids still like the music kids still support the music So like what's one of your favorite songs I guess, okay? This is y'all ready So like how like how did you first hear that song and how you knew like yeah, that's I like that one I hear everything first. Oh, yeah, so he plays it for you first. Yeah, he'd be in the house Yeah, he'd be in his room and only here's out of the instrumental or something and all you hear is I'm dancing around. That's it. I already know what he's doing. Like I don't it don't even bother me I'll just let the people downstairs know like y'all already know my son They're like don't we already know girl. I'm like, all right, cool So the people downstairs already knows what's going on there. Yeah, music is there. I'm good. Yep So um, so y'all are doing a documentary. I don't know. Can I say that? Okay, so we are documenting this reaction documentary what um what message I guess we want the fans to know or to get from this Doc when they watch it or what would you want to leave fans that you probably wish he could have told people, you know Well, well, he done told me to let everybody know because I don't told them We're gonna do this and if he wanted me to say anything on his behalf if he wasn't able to speak He just wanted to let everybody know that he really loves y'all and he really thank y'all He really appreciate that y'all love his music and that y'all supporting him and that y'all praying for him And that when he comes home, he's gonna do nothing But make y'all even happier by giving y'all more music and some more dope-ness Yeah, he got a lot of coastlines from a lot of big artists too. Yes, he does Yeah, so and I'm so thankful and I want to tell you guys all thank you from the bottom of my heart literally It means like the world to me So if someone wants to help out if someone was watching this someone to help out like what like what could they do? at the moment pray right That's cool. I want prayers So all good vibes and all prayers and but genuine prayers if anybody want to do more than just that Genuinely that's because they want to and they choose to yeah, but I don't expect or want anything from anybody, but prayers and straight genuine support That's fair So definitely fans watching and supporting kflag definitely any last words? Just thank you Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming and sitting with us. You're more than welcome. Thank you Kflag one artist of the year this year. He definitely that's right put in that work this year Got this to put next to my youtube plaque now. Oh, yeah, these two. Oh, yeah Yes, I got that too And we're gonna keep getting more and bigger Yeah