 on James last night past Kobe Bryant and the all-time scoring list. And he really shared some great memories about his time playing against Kobe Bryant, meeting him for the first time. Can you talk a little bit about how their relationship had evolved over the past couple of years? No, I wouldn't say it was that it evolved is not the right word. I think when you look at without Dr. J, there might not be Michael Jordan. Without Michael Jordan, there might not be a Kobe. And I think LeBron and Kobe are very, very close in age. And so I think they both grew up revering Michael Jordan. And so I look at great players like that. We would never have experience in my opinion LeBron's greatness if he wasn't trying to chase Kobe. If he wasn't trying to chase Michael Jordan. That's something that pushes these guys, that makes them wake up every morning knowing that Kobe Bryant is working. Very similar to Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Matt woke up every day knowing that Larry was one of the hardest workers in the NBA. Larry woke up every morning knowing that Magic Johnson was one of the most talented players that had still ever walked the planet. So it just drove those guys to work and prepare. And I think Kobe Bryant is one of those guys for LeBron James and a lot of the younger generation of players. Richard, final thing. That's attitude seems to have translated into his post-playing days. Frank and I talked a lot about a threat the night and other players have as well. The fact that he seamlessly, it seemed, went right from playing basketball and stepping off the court to finding other competitive and creative outlets. In fact, even winning last year and Oscar for his short film, Dear Basketball. Yeah, and understanding that you have to prepare well before that moment arrives. And he's somebody that even as I was getting ready to retire, I saw the work that he was putting in in that moment. And I decided that, hey, if I want to transition and I want to have the ability to do some of the things that I want to do, you have to start preparing now. And those are the things that we talk about as influence when you talk about a seamless transition. We're not even talking about his basketball career. How many players today watch his transition to post-career and now are taking their post-career opportunities in life more seriously? And I think the most impressive part is how much more you saw him be able to be a father, right? He was there for his daughter's games. He was coaching games. He was motivating her entire team. So it was like not only did he transition more into being a businessman and a mentor and challenging NBA players, giving them goals, challenging Giannis to be MVP, but he also decided, well, not decided, but he had more time to devote to being a father. And he was still right there. He was right there spending that time with his daughters up until his very last moment. Richard, you put it in perfect perspective. Thank you so much for joining us. And we look forward to seeing you again soon. Thank you guys. Frank, he p-