 Well, TIPS is a think tank and a research network that provides insight into a number of issues that we're trying to grapple with as government. And the theme of this particular forum, which is about regional industrialisation and regional value chains and regional integration, these are very, very important questions that we're trying to grapple with at the policy level right now, with a number of initiatives such as the SADAC Regional Industrialisation Initiative, such as the SADAC-Comessist African Community Process and the launch of the negotiations to establish a continental free trade area across the continent, all of which I intended to support industrial development on the continent. The issue is that the focus of attention now, and I think correctly so, is on broadening integration across our existing regional communities, rather than deepening integration within them. And I think that it is to do with the fact that the African continent needs to industrialise and move up the value chain. We need to create sizeable regional markets that can support industrialisation and diversification of our economic activities. And I think we start to find the numbers when we move across our existing regional communities. I think it's better that we have a SADAC market than just a series of national markets. But the fact of the matter is that the SADAC-Comessist African Community will bring together a very sizeable group of their part of the African continent, 600 to 700 million people, with a combined GDP of over a trillion US dollars. That creates enormous possibilities to expand into regional trade and to support industrialisation not just in one country or one part of that region, but in that region more broadly. Apart from anything else, being producers and exporters of primary products is not the best place to be in global value chains right now. The real value is found in the value addition that takes place on top of raw materials, be they mining commodities or be they agricultural products. There's no end of research that tells us that. Use of global trade takes place in intermediate products and so on. But in any case, I think that there are some important structural factors that are underpinning the end of the commodity supercycle. And those are to do with the fact that the Chinese economy, for example, which the China was one of the biggest demanders of mineral commodities, China is restructuring its economy. It's turning itself into a more consumption driven and service orientated economy, which is a much less mineral intensive growth path than it used to be on. And I think that that is reflected in changing trade patterns that we've all seen over the last year. We've seen the value of our exports to China have not increased. The volumes may have. I don't know. I haven't checked that. But the value has not increased. The value, in fact, has gone down. And I think that just to hang around and hope that there's going to be a resurgence of major mineral rents that we enjoyed a few years ago is not the wisest choice. In any case, the developmental choice is to move further up the value chain. Well, what's happened in the WTO is that there's been an agreement that we need to quote unquote recalibrate, which generally means lowering the ambition. And I think that the concern that we have to address is to make sure that that lowering of the ambition isn't just lowering of the ambition in the areas where the developed world are vulnerable. That's in agricultural trade where I think we're going to see a very, very modest outcome if we see an outcome. And we need to make sure that that modest outcome, if that is the outcome, is matched with the modest outcome in industrial tariffs. And I think the concern that I've got as Africa, as Africa industrializes, is that if we face a series of industrial tariff cuts imposed on us by the WTO, we may be offered in return, not reforms in agriculture, but hypothetical market access in industrial goods in regions where we can't possibly realistically access those opportunities. And where the reciprocal obligations could mean that regional value chains and the opportunities in regional value chains for the development of productive activities in Africa are undermined by finished products coming from outside. That I think is the concern that we're going to have to ensure that the result that the ministerial conference comes up within Nairobi at the end of the year is not of that ilk, but is something that supports industrial development on the African continent.