 Part of the confusion about cookie is that in the beginning some of them honestly didn't know all the steps Yeah, and I and I do think that they also wanted to obscure a bit what they did know Because they didn't want anybody else to either get credit or you know Go out and grab those things and start making things because is everyone's aware, right? You know cookie seeds and cookie hybrids and og kb and then forum and the and animal and all these different things that were coming out They all commanded top dollar. Yeah, so there was a lot of money on the line And they were always terrified of their secret and their control of it getting out Yep, because again it got famous and it got famous at this weird time where things were transitioning But it was still that 215 gray area time where nobody owned it. Yeah Right. It was very punk rock like nobody nobody owned it nobody. There was no contracts there