 What's up everybody, once again it's Brand Man Sean and I'm back with another episode of Inside the Network where we share exclusive content from inside of brandmannetwork.com because I signed myself and right here we're actually showing a snippet from an interview that I did with Nick, one of Dope and Scrappy, his most resourceful managers I've seen and enjoyed to be watching coming up in the game. He works with an artist by the name of Oren Major. And before we get into this clip because we're talking about what does a manager look like right in 2020, right in today's age, I want to preface it with the fact that he lives in Arizona, his artist lives in Atlanta and they met while living in different states online but they've had a great relationship and really have made an impact, they're moving and grooving. Let's get into the clip. Because we can communicate just as well almost with FaceTime, Messenger all day but we can live our own lives and grind separately and then when opportunities come up we can bring it to each other versus if we're hanging out like when he visits or I visit or we're in the same place like we're kind of just having fun you know like we're friends and so we're kind of just kicking it versus when we're separate so like I got a grind I want to make this a reality you know so that's that's kind of how that works for us. Right that's funny that sounds like a it's similar to what I hear people say about long distance boyfriend-girlfriend relationships. Yeah that's funny that's funny okay well how many tours has Oren been on so far? Zero. Zero? Yeah. Technically because he's done shows but you wouldn't call him tours. Yeah he hasn't done any tours so he only started he put out his first real album or major album or whatever January 2017 so he's only really been doing this for almost three years now. Once we got Spotify going he started doing some shows mostly opener slots because that's you know how you get started and then recently back in March of this year he had his first headline at the Masquerade in Atlanta and then we decided now he's at a good point where his numbers are solid his music is solid let's book his first national tour so that's going to kick off in February. What are the dates for that tour? Oh man not the dates where are some of the places? Okay yeah so Atlanta, St. Louis, Houston, New Mexico, New Orleans, Phoenix and then I think Denver, Colorado we're also trying to add LA and Seattle and Florida but we have a seven confirmed right now. Okay got it so I want to stick with this for a second. I had another question but I got to hold it off since we're already here. Touring, how did you even determine that it's time that we can go on the tour starting there? How did you know? Because you said you got a feeling that you y'all were there. Right that's a good question it just felt right is the main thing we so we did the show in Hawaii right it actually came from a connection I had made with the headline of Greaves so we went out to Hawaii did that show my family's actually out there so we got to hang out with them came back and then I think it was the first night back we just started routing it on Google Maps just to see like hey maybe we should do a tour like we could make this work to this work these are eight hour drives you know and it was really just an idea at that point and then mostly Oren got to work and then three months later we announced it so I don't know why we thought it was time it just felt like time and we know that's the best way to build up that that real fan base you know to be sure person and so we're just going to make it happen. But how did y'all choose the cities because this is how many cities again? At least seven we picked the city so I talked to the booking agent at the masquerade and he gave us some advice on how to route a tour because he's doing tour management also he told us India on the move is a really good resource so we contacted them they have a like a program or a product or whatever that helps you to book shows they'll help you form an EPK all the booking materials they'll shoot it out to everyone and then we just kind of sift through the responses decide which states we want and kind of schedule it ourselves. Okay cool alright and I mean well y'all having gone on that yet so maybe you know what afterwards maybe we might do some kind of update or something just right your thoughts on what it's like doing that for the first time because y'all are doing that all together right the whole time. I'm going to be there for at least half of it it's a little tough with the full time job but I talked to my boss about it and they're going to work with me to get me out there. Cool yeah that's going to be interesting alright so. Alright if you want to check out the full interview of course you can check out on brandmannetwork.com where we also have a ton of resources when it comes to artists developing their brand and building their fan base that can be found in the link in the description below and other than that if you like this video go ahead and like button if you like it you might as well share and if you're not subscribed you know what to do hit that subscribe.