 This is when it gets interesting is when you go to tapping them with it and just you don't let them get away and she knows to stay tight enough around me, but I can also move her feet when I need to. So that's the key to this is just being able to move them off of you but not pull on them because if you pull during this, you take away everything that you've done before. So she needs to get comfortable with me just being here and tapping her with this little feed sack and every time she thinks about moving, I'm just going to move with her and make her move and then step here to that stop. Just like I did earlier. I'm not pulling and having to hold the side of her face and all that good stuff. I want to be able to just, and the deal is, I mean I could even use a cow stick instead of even having a flag on it because all I'm trying to do is an extension of my arm pretty much, you know, and so I'm going to use the stick more of it than I am the flag and just make that stick really touch everything. You know, I want to be able to get in between her hind legs and her front legs and like as you can see, she really doesn't like her front feet right there. You know, I'll try to slip the saddle on her. Here's the pad. The pad shouldn't be that big of a deal, hardly ever is.