 Okay, licensed hearing and public safety committee I'm gonna start with roll a little call of art call to order and then the roll call all the person's Barfield II I am here Betty Ackley. Yeah Dean Decker. Yeah, Leslie Laster here Amanda Salazar here All right, pledge of allegiance stand if you're able. I pledge allegiance to the State of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible for the liberty and justice of all Now we're to number five approval of the dinner from March 16, 2022 So moved. Second Is there any discussion Fall in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Dare votes aye. Opposed nay Motion carries Item first discussion and possible action discussion of Expansion of the provision of 74 56 SMC to allow right in Addition to bear and park beer in part sorry When group holding temporarily Last be licensed Licenses hold events in parks discussion so this comes up because in 2019 we made some significant changes to chapter 74, which is the parks chapter and Part of the reason we did this change is that the ordinance had just gotten very complicated, right? We would have it would say Alcohol is not allowed at any park But then I would say but it is allowed at these parks But then it said but except it is it allowed in these times and then it would say but except it is allowed So it just it so what we did is we wanted to clean it up It also one of the other problems we had is we had a lot of what you might call special legislation for certain events where a Specific event would have permission to have alcohol in a park on a particular day But they would change the days of the events and the ordinance wasn't up to date so We we made made the change and it got rid of all those specific events and basically provided that In parks that didn't allow alcohol If an organization got a picnic license, this is these temporary class B licenses that go to non-profit organizations That they would be able to serve here at their events even in parks where it's it's prohibited Basically because it would be coming through you in any case to approve those picnic licenses We weren't going to allow hard liquor But there was no discussion at the time about wine And wine is sort of that middle middle ground as it turns out there are some events that want to serve wine And in fact at least one event that apparently has been serving wine despite the fact that it's not allowed And you know and their defense to the whole thing was well, we didn't know it changed You know we were allowed to do this before because they had Special legislation before although they were doing it on the wrong day because the special legislation Gave a particular day and they weren't holding the event on that day So what's before you is before we went and drafted something up I wanted to make sure that you guys were okay with the idea that we're just just at why don't we just add wine So anybody who has a picnic license that When you apply for a picnic license, you have to apply whether you're going to serve beer or beer and wine You guys have to approve it anyway If it's going to be in a park You will know whether it's a beer license or it's a beer and wine license And we won't have to you know, we we could just change the law so that as long as you approve those picnic licenses For wine wine will be allowed in the park for that particular Discussion questions I believe didn't isn't that the the the rotary clubs their lobster bone wasn't that one always That's the one that always had wine before and they they were the one that had special legislation in the past So they weren't doing it right even before 2019, but it was only because they changed their dates. Okay But yeah since 2019 since we changed that And nobody I mean I've never gone to that particular event So I didn't know they started wine and nobody caught it In the process of changing the ordinance so So there are many parks so all any park Any organization non-profit can pull a class B for any of the parks within the city, right? Right, okay even fountain park even fountain park, right? Okay. Yeah, there's no limitation on the park There's no limitation on the park. It's just that the limitation was In order to do that it was limited to beer Um, and now we would be saying wine is okay, too. We're not going to add hard liquor Yeah Anyway, yes, but um, right. Yeah, okay But this would basically allow allow the wine there is another event that just came in also the greek fest that wants to serve wine Um, do we set parameters around them when they're pulling a picnic license? Do we shoot like, you know, these are the things we To think about and how do we so so traditionally what in the past what they used to actually all come To this committee without being vetted anywhere And so we've what we've done is now we send those to that staff committee and the staff committee looks at the application And basically looks to make sure That the staff looks at, you know, what are they doing as far as are they sets setting an apart? Are they separating it out? Are they requiring wristbands all those kinds of things? And it looks at well, what's what kind of event is it? You know, I mean you don't have to be quite as restrictive when the event like the art openings in the ebco building You know, they don't get as uptight about what those requirements are because You actually have to go in and out of the building and somebody can just sort of check there Somebody's of age in a park. It's a little more restrictive and that's where we're generally looking for The two things we look for is that they set apart the beer garden or the wine garden in this case So that you actually have to you know, so there's an actual entrance and an exit into it So it's easier to control and the the wristband. Okay Chuck generally do they The staff recommend that they have You know, like a police officer on duty there or something if they're if they are serving the alcohol So for the picnic license is what tends to happen is the police department is part of those meetings And so if they believe it's the type of event that has that has issues they may Recommend that but we don't recommend it for every single event Some of the events just don't have that kind of problem And generally that's non-profits not for other people that are just it it is for non-profits or it's it's it's called It's actually bona fide clubs and bona fide clubs has this sort of definition That includes non-profits Yeah, it's basically those who have like a board and they meet and they take minutes And they have a gender there in a real organization. Not just somebody wants to have a party, right? Yeah, so they they meet but they're not they don't have to have their 501c3 Right, okay. Yeah, but they do have to sort of have they have to be a real organization Correct. Yeah, so yeah, it's what is it like six months of continuous meeting or something like that. Yeah Okay, so it's not like a fly I know a lot about this due to other non-profits. I've been a part of so I'm in the non-profit world a lot. So I know a lot about you and Alderman. We talked to you about some of Yes, yes, I do. I know all I've been on the other side of it and understanding the roles Any other questions? Is that any questions? No, I think it makes sense to add line Yeah, I would just add to the question that you asked our preferences is not to have a police officer It's to have security tell them that they might need to get some security Or a certain amount of people they can't We're police and so we do police work. We don't do security work. Yeah in some instances We've been filling that gap because of the nexus with the city But my preference is that they hire security to do what they need to do and not try to hire us Yeah, and something that I found successful through Doing some of the large events through the non-profits is actually having sort of an ID check Spot where they have to not only are you coming, but we're checking your ID. We're wrist banning you So there's kind of a two-step process before you're going to like abroad or stays. Um, yeah um, well that kind of eliminates any of that sort of weirdness like It's hard to like try to make a sale and have to ID and be responsible for all those things So I think if there can be somebody who feels comfortable in that It sort of helps double check Because it's when it's busy and things like that you've got a lot of people And then I just showed you my ID somebody says Yeah, yeah, I showed it you for Actually, don't talk to me you got to go to them. They'll check you. They'll check you. I think that's a that's a Respect. I agree. This was discussion only Yeah, right. So it basically I've heard from all of you. You're good with that I'll come up with an ordinance and there's time We did it as a discussion only rather than rushing it through because there's time before the first event that wants to serve one Oh, okay. Um, that was my next question And we're on number seven our old number 136 21 22 3 21 22 by city clerk submitting various license applications They're recommending granting all of the applications and the changes on the aro as you'll note in the recommendations There are a few that are going to have to provide some additional information before we'll issue But we but we're good with you granting them and we'll just hold them until they give that information and then issue the license Okay Okay Motion to grant those licenses and make a motion to grant the licenses. I'll second Okay discussion All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed nay. Oh, wait a minute. Leslie. Are you on eye? Yes Okay, nay I'll chair vote to aye um passes Okay, number eight next meeting date will be april 13th 2022 That was just not a friday the 13th And that will be your Final night meeting. So you'll be adjourned. So yeah till we see who the new committees are Okay Got that one leslie Yes, my last day is the 18th of april Maybe it's smiling pretty easy Ha ha ha ha ha Number nine motion to adjourn Motion to adjourn second All in favor say aye. Aye. I didn't think everybody'd say nay Chair votes aye and we're adjourned