 Elizabeth Guigou, welcome to WPC TV. You are a prominent member of the party socialists in France, former minister and now very important in the assembly national on foreign policy in particular. French foreign policy has been quite active at the moment. What is the biggest challenge? I think that the the biggest challenge is whether there are two big challenges. One is on our east side, the question of course of Ukraine, and the second is security in Africa and the Sahel region, which of course is a question for the whole of Europe, which is something that is beginning to be understood but not not well enough I think. But you've established a permanent quasi permanent force in the Sahel region with allies at the moment. So in a sense that you know you can see the way forward. Yes but we should be we should be more more present not only of course because military intervention is never the solution it is sometimes absolutely necessary in Mali to avoid an Islamic State right in the middle of Africa. But the real solution is both political and non-development of course. And this requires change in governance, more efficient help from European countries and of course a new strategy of partnership between developed countries and Africa because of course there is a lot of potential in Africa which is you know which should be the difference between potential development and real development is the gap is very wide. What about Ukraine what is the solution there? Well I think that there is no other solution than to have to implement the Minsk process process and to have both parties around the table. So obviously both Mr. Porochenko and Mr. Putin should you know compromise and I think we should continue to be very firm towards Mr. Putin as far as Crimea and the east of integrity and territorial integrity of Ukraine is concerned but we cannot we have to to have a strategy to end this crisis someday on strong basis because I cannot imagine that Europe remain in a long-standing confrontation with Russia we have to find ways to get out of that and of course it's mainly for the Ukrainian government president government and of the Russian to be together but with the help of the European community of course and I think that it's good that Francois Hollande went to meet Mr. Putin just now I think it's a good moment to do to do it. We'll keep our fingers crossed Thank you so much. Thank you.