 So Stuart you've been at the club for six months or so now in your fourth spell, we'll come on to how things have been since we gave you the phone call when you were on holiday with your wife later but let's talk about tomorrow night's game, it's been a couple of weeks since the Bradford City fans have had a chance to be back at Valley Parade so a much maligned competition the trekkertrade trophy but nevertheless a competition that can take us to Wembley and some incremental revenue. Yeah exactly I think that's the bottom line when regardless who you are if you're a young up and coming professional like Ellis Hudson or a senior pro there's no better place to play than Wembley apart from obviously Hamden up in Scotland but other than that yeah and that's the prize at the end of it so we've managed to get through the group stage and finish top of it which obviously gives us a home tie and in any game you want to win no matter what you should do you should want to win it so we'll be approaching it in a correct manner. A lot of the boys obviously didn't have a game at the weekend there so we'll have a reasonably strong squad out, a strong side out and we want to go as far as we can in it yeah. There's been some criticism from outside the footballing world that the AFL have got it wrong in terms of the Premier League teams coming down but as you mentioned at league one and league two level it gives the opportunity for some fringe place to come in but as you get further down the line it's an opportunity for you to get a trophy and for the club to get a trophy. Well that is one obviously I think listen I think with any pilot scheme I think the time to look at it is when it's over at the end of the season they've had loads of criticism I spoke to Sean Harvey the other day we're one club that's not giving it any bit of criticism regardless what we might think if it's good bad or indifferent I think the time to discuss it is at the end of it but while we're still in it we're going to do what we can to go as far as we can but I was disappointed and still am disappointed that you know we received a fine for a day to come in. We're getting to the rules whereas club blatantly went against the rules and still got the same fine as ourselves now I believe after an appeal you know we might be getting part of it's suspending which I think is only right but I'm still really disappointed at that but that's gone it's in the past now and we as I say we look to progress as far as we can. And lastly on that do you believe as a manager and formally as a player that winning breeds success so a win can only help us for Saturday as opposed to having lost and been out of the competition on Thursday morning? That's right because we can't say any different because I think two months ago we were sitting here after beating Barry at home and said you know that's what it's after you know we're looking to get as far as we can and it's on but also winning and we've had young players coming in and being involved with some senior professionals. You know they look back at Malcolm, young Tom came in and played it right back and Ellie Sudson's played, Kwame's played, we've had Reese Webfoster sort of but they're not just playing in any game, they're playing in a game that's competitive and playing alongside likes a Nathan Clark, Rory McAddle, Matthew Kilgall and Philip Merase you know good good professionals and they can only learn from that so we take every game seriously. Yet they look back at the Accretan game I think if no matter who we play be it Charlton, be it Sheffield United, be it Accretan if seven or eight of our players are underperforming no matter who we're playing we'll get beat so we need to be on top of this game against Accretan for whatever reason we weren't and they deserve to get through. Would I have picked the same side again? 100% because the players that we sent out and the team we sent out were good enough to beat Accretan but on the day we didn't perform so that's part and parcel of football you can't win every game, you learn your lessons, you analyse it and you move on but yeah come tomorrow night when the final whistle's gone we want to be in the next round of the cup. And how do you get the players that are coming in up for it with a low crowd I mean I presume I'm guessing based on how it feels to be in the crowd, players play to the crowd if that makes sense they spin off it with Accretan you could feel it was flat. No doubt there's no doubt about that, when are we going to have it because at home you're expecting 15, 16, 17, 18,000 to cheer you on and it wants flat it's not an excuse it's a fact and the momentum when we scored against Accretan go one all. Contrast to when we scored against Sheffield United to equalise, the crowd almost actually encouraged us and got us another goal in that game because the noise was electric. And it is and we said to a lot of the senior pros that went over to Markham and played when you were already through but we had to go and do as best to make sure we finished top of the group. And we said it'll be like a reserve game, I like going back to a schoolboy game when you're at school because there'll be hardly anyone there and there weren't at Markham, there's hardly anyone there in the atmosphere. So you've got to be professional so you've got to make sure you've got the young players doing the damnness to want to be involved in the squad and you've got the senior ones who are leading by example but they also want to be in the side. Again tomorrow we're going to have a lot of good senior professionals who want to be playing in this team and they'll be doing everything they can and they'll probably be as hungry as anyone to put the mark on the game and putting a really strong performance.