 All the liquor digital board to order and just so everybody understands this has enough is not a select board meeting. So first up is to have a comment on anything not on the agenda for the liquor team. Hearing none we'll move to approve of the agenda. So we'll move on to the business. We started it so. Okay. There's no question on any of those. We are kind of motion to move everything at once. So all those in favor? Aye. Motion to adjourn. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye. We'll now move into the regular select board meeting. I think you guys are here for a liquor license. Yeah. That's done. Is it middle branch on the list though? Yeah, that's right. So yeah we'll let the clerk's office know they're in a conduit with DLC and then the rest of the processing happens off in that direction. So I'll give it to everybody. We're having issues with the Zoom. We're going to try to get this up and running. But if not, I'm working on a workaround. It's my apology there. Great. So we'll do the select board reorganization. So I would like to nominate the reading nomination. So I'd love to nominate Trini as our chair. Second. Any other nominations? All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye. She carries. And now for vice chair. I'm not going to eat Larry. And for vice chair? Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? And now we need a secretary. Which one's a very serious job. So weigh it carefully. You're often called on to do nothing at all. So a person has to make sure Larry's training show up to the meeting. But if yeah. I'll nominate. But without any authority. I'll nominate Stephanie to be secretary. Yes, sir. Somebody's not here. Let's record it. We have a motion in the second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? She carries. Now we'll go to public comment. This is for anything not on the agenda. Seeing them. Move on to approval of the agenda. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. And second calendar. This is a variety of meeting minutes and the ones that have been approved for the last month. Should three sets of minutes in there. Your regular meeting forum in the public informational meeting from February. I'll move to approve. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? She carries. Except is business. Which is proposed changes to the land use regulations. The big takeaway from last time was to get you some versions that showed the proposed changes, the red line versions. And so we've provided all that so that's a handy way to see what's what in there. Those are all up in the website for anybody who's looking for them remotely. They didn't put it in your packets. There's been 130 pages with all of it, I think, just for those pieces, but everybody wants a copy. We can do that. The idea being that we let you see those have another conversation about those if you wanted to, and then you're still queued up to potentially hold the next and or final public hearing in April. On the 11th, we have enough time to warn it. What's the date on that. The updated. The public hearing or on the. No, the change in the change in the red lining one. I think I might have an old. Yeah, these would have been posted in the last week and a half or so. 216 2024 is the date on the top of the full draft of the land use regulations with the red line. What do you have to 15. Does everybody gotten a chance to work very well on that. So point where you're comfortable putting it out for me. Yeah. I have a question. Hang on a second. I think they're going to come around to that they're going to do a little board stuff and then they'll open it up for questions to just hang tight. It's about the land use rights though with that. Yeah, we won't forget you just hang tight. We'll get that. Yeah, thanks. Molly, have you had a chance to look at the land use right. Yeah. And the changes in the room and understand what they are. And then you've got both of it. Yeah, I just, I got the red line stuff the other night. Yeah, it's a lot, but yeah. I just want to sit down with somebody from the planning commission and walk through what the changes do or. Yeah, actually that would be great if I could. Yeah. Two of them here, but Jeff might be a good one as both staff and former planning commissioner. Sure. Yeah, I can answer questions you're having go through that. I'm trying to you look at the latest one I made sure though, did you pick up on that. Yeah, but I haven't got the latest time. I'm trying to find it right now just to make sure it's on the website. Was it in the red line that. Actually, yeah. Do you remember what I wanted to forget. It wasn't, but I'll go through it again. Before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that we give everybody another week. And then if anybody has any questions, raise them. If not, we'll advertise it on the next. Board meeting for the hearing. Okay. Time. Yeah, I know that's perfect. Thank you. All right. Going forward. Yeah. So on the phone, we don't have a name, but you're up. Oh, Nancy Rice. Just want to make sure I'm understanding it's a little hard to. Picture when I'm on my phone, but. Did you say there would be a public hearing sometime in the next few weeks. Yeah, right now, April 11th would be the day and that would be toward the beginning of the meeting. So around 530. The public can ask. Yeah. Yeah. You can always submit questions to us ahead of time. If you have any as well, I mean, we can help you work through those. Public hearing with. With information available. They look it over and comment. So. Yeah, all the, all the proposed changes are available right off the homepage of the website. The second post down just under the picture of the metal on the right hand side. And if you want a paper copy, let us know we get one printed out. Get that to. I did get, and I think it's very helpful to see it on paper. So if anybody's listening. Like to see that. And share it with the page document or something. That would be helpful for anybody who's interested. Yeah, you can contact Jeff or stop in. We'll have a paper copy. We'll get a paper copy for you if you want. If you have any other questions or comments online. Yeah. Seeing none. Any questions here. Only just confirming the latest copy. Yes. And the latest copy is posted on the front page of the Randolph from our website. We just talked through exactly how fun. Beautiful. Challenge on that website. Yes. Seeing none will move on to the next item on the agenda, which is the RAC DC first Friday they've asked for that to be continued to April. So we'll move on to providing initial art for obligation criteria feedback. Yeah, we've set this up as a running item 2024 is the year to obligate back in. I mean, remember how long ago you got the projects that were submitted to the committee you got an early version of the town list so we still have those the task before us is to set what your criteria your process is going to be to evaluate those and make those obligations. So this is just a guide reference last time I'm probably going to keep this on here until we develop that and shift into obligation mode. So it's if you want to talk about any criteria tonight. Just don't want to lose it. If this is the, this is the year to finally get those obligated. I think one of the things we should be looking at with some of these projects is if it's an investment or a purchase that we can make that will either save us money in the long run or make jobs better or do something that improves the work that we're doing. The other thing I don't want to see us do is invest in something that's going to give us a larger investment needed at a later date. We are set one and done so we're not setting ourselves up in future years to have to come up with a big chunk of money. One of the pieces that's being kicked around right now is a piece of equipment that's needed, and whether that should be, you know, an item and I would say if it's pieces of estimator is that one of the funding sources do we find that we pay for it. And I think it's a perfect project to consider under ARPA, because we're going to get a lot of that money back through grants by not having to hire a contractor and we're going to get some of the payroll for our highway workers back through so it kind of has that capacity to help us financially and help them do their job. That to me is an appealing project to do it. But there's something to think about if we're working our way through. It's something where we're going to pay 10% of something and still try to figure out the other 90. But I don't think we have the 90. But wasn't the one I forget exactly what you're talking about but I feel like one of them was kind of it paying for the match of something like a larger amount of money I got. Yeah, we have some of those in there too. I think it's good as long as it's going to pay for the project and not set us up to pay the grants only for 20% of the project and we're paying a match on it. I'd say I'm really for using it for match to leverage other opportunities. But yeah, I would agree as long as there's sustainable. Any other thoughts on criteria that we should be working with? Do you have some lists to kind of gather? Okay. Sorry. I'm just looking through the list. On the list area, hire an energy creator for random. Check. I've moved it long enough. Some of those lists just kind of happen. Thanks a fair bit, so. All right, we'll have to begin that up pretty quick. Yeah. Well, for next time, maybe pull all of the projects you received made a note for that. Maybe at least get you a draft if there's some frameworks that some others have used to throw those in there for you to look at. And then maybe we can come out at next time with sort of a draft. Here's how we want to do it. Process and then that might give us a, here's the timeline on which we're going to do it and put us in a good shape to move through that. I think once you get into it. And you have until the end of the calendar year, but I don't know what you're going to need that much. Yeah, you got a good process and a good matrix saying you might get there pretty fast with most of it at least there might still be stuff we need more information on stuff that we've already achieved or done through other means or stuff that maybe this doesn't fit and we have some left over to try to figure out. Yeah, some of these things run the argument committee list and then the stroll Randolph senior center sidewalk and downtown pedestrian group might switch for a look at this job. Can we put the full list so if some of the things the committee put forward already taken care of. I can forward it. I can go through each of those and even on the town's list. I think there's some stuff that we've done. Figure out a different path to so maybe we'll even sort of know. That's a good female in there somewhere. Right. We're not we still haven't hit the 111 million yet so we're not at the 90 10 split. I'm sorry. 111 million yet as a state so we don't get a 90 10 split we're at a 75 25 still. So it makes a big difference in how much we've got a. We're not some stuff over. We will be that the projects are. It takes a lot of time to crank the bureaucracy. Makes it 12 and a half percent for us then. If it's a 75. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of middle. Otherwise we drop down to whatever the other one is roughly doing a roughly like that. What are things we'll have by the time you're making decisions. Based on our conversations with FEMA about how to proceed. So the North Randolph road bridge is kind of the biggest hanging unknown costs with a full term replacement. But by the time you get to the decision making. We'll have had to go through the NRP process figured out what the cost is what that project looks like and so we'll know. What that cost is and that's kind of the last real big piece to plug into. Most of what we've. Most of our damage was fixed within those weeks after that because of the type of damage it is so we have very few that are still. Open it's that one and then a couple of the slope stabilization ones which the cost could change on as well but. So North Randolph road for there. That would be one. Come out and do a site inspection again next week. So, and then December will be in the mix as well. We'll have to match that so that December event. Total cost of our response to that was less. Yeah, we will get anywhere here. But we're probably still talking 1520,000 would be our match based on how much we spent on material time labor equipment. It was 125 to $150,000 event for us. Is the state going to take the lead on Lincoln at. We're not going to get them to get somebody with mitigation because otherwise it could be very narrow about where that culvert now daylights a few feet earlier than expected. And they've pinned it in right to where that little sliver is so we won't even be able to armor behind it at this point. Or downstream of it. It's going to be very narrow, but it does offer some kind of protection in that space, at least to that call burden, where it's at least encroaching on the road so a little bit distance but. It comes in criteria. That's a question. I'm not aware of what funds have been taking, you know what part of funds have been used. I would. I don't know if the town knows that. Where is that located. What do you mean where is it located where can I look for it. We referenced it in a few other places in I think the packets that we handed over the list originally, there's the $100,000 for the Orange County parent child center and the rest of those please start up. I know about that. That's it. So those numbers are in there and they haven't the police one hasn't moved since then or with the OCPCC one. It's actually easier to say for me. So dummy is more specifically where I can find it should be I forget what the meeting date was but if you send me an email I can even just send you the numbers back tomorrow. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to make a comment also. This is maybe primarily for the newer members of this board may not have been here when there was a committee of citizens who got together to try to solicit. Proposals for that money. And we came up with a pretty robust. As a committee would ask the board to look at that evaluation criteria we came up because it's pretty comprehensive. And it reflects the, the thoughts of a lot of people in the community on what how that money should be used. So as you're, you clearly, you obviously have the authority to do what you want with that money. We were just an advisory committee. But I think as you come up with projects, if you try to apply those criteria, you're in some way sort of honoring the intent of the people who were trying to gain input from people in the community. So I'd ask you to look at those, those four criteria, the budget, some criteria underneath them. And it got to things like the group bang for the buck does this leverage additional funds. And three is people that are on it. They are coming here here. But that, that was the ones that you evaluated was ones that were solicited. They weren't the town projects too. Correct. We never saw the project. One of the last thing I want to say about our work is while we got 35 different proposals and we can't, we ranked them and came up to the top 10. It did seem to us that there were for instance, a lot of proposals for specific projects had to do with walkability or likeability or recreation. And we thought it was less important for the select board to pick one of those individual projects but more important to recognize that there's a certain category of interest. So you don't pick any of those specific projects that were recommended, but you use some of those funds for walkability by ability. And that sort of thing. That's the honor the, the hopes of people in the community. Great. We'll look for more on that in April. We'll go to board sneeze and commission. We're multitasking here. Going way back to the fall you've approved our participation in a lead service line inventory, in order to get the funds flowing we've got a hundred percent coverable. We have to do a loan agreement with the state. So Emory was kind of come sign on behalf of the treasurer needs your signatures after that. Let's start the reimbursement process. Thank you. We have copies for you here. Larry, do you have your cell phone with him. We can scan it soon. I do why. Well, I would take a picture of these pages of this committee list and we'd have it work. Yeah, so it'd be great. I cannot, if you send me a text, I can actually bring it up on my computer. That'd be great. So we're working to update this throughout the day. There's some that are on there. This is pulled from without the report the past. So some of these you obviously don't appoint the first page or the elected officials we updated the terms where we knew them. There's still some that we've got to fit in. And the one I would point out on page one is that one of you usually serves as a liaison to the budget committee. That one's listed there as well. And the page two of this are the annual appointments to positions so they're less about boards, committees and commission and more about who serves as the nine and one court here. And we'll control officer emergency management coordinators help officer tree ward and those types of things. And so we updated the list so it reflects everybody who's in those roles currently. And there's probably wouldn't mind. Not being the blank with tax collector not to name names. And having a few of those other roles but it makes sense to hold on to them for now. And then we're popping in Larry. Yeah. And then when you get to the next two pages that's where we get into the committees and we've tried to match up the terms we got some new information from the conservation commission on. We've got four members stepping off. They have a full slate of recommendations for you. Those are the ones highlighted in yellow. We do have to assign terms I'll go back to my email. I think I have something from Jasmine that might help us sort through that. But they're there and we took out anything that was currently sort of defunct or underutilized that's why you don't see anything for energy because I think we need to have a conversation about how to fully jumpstart what that's going to be. Same thing with the design design review advisory commission hasn't been putting to practice for a while but we should figure out what it is who's on it. And all that. So we try to keep it to the simpler ones that are out and some cases we know people want to be reappointed and some we haven't heard we've not a chance to reach out. But you also have you can send an ex official member conservation east valley group. I haven't really done one with DRB because they're quasi judicial it's a little different in terms of they're taking in applications and and figuring out from a regulatory standpoint. If you ever had you ever have a board liaison you're it's a different animal. I was actually not listening to that. Hold on to the last part. The first part. Yeah, I think Tom errors was Tom. Yeah. He was interested in learning about it. He was on it but not. Yeah. Um, no, there's not been a liaison for a long time. I'm trying to think I think Trini the last time there was liaison was when you were the chair of the DRB and then you were on the select work I think that was the last time I can recall the select board member. Yeah, I think last year Tom jumped on I don't know if you ever showed up or not but he was. Yeah, we've been there for numbers. Yeah. We could use members to that. All right, let's start. So I don't know if you want to go through the appointments you want to do the boards and committees most of them are one year terms. Some like conservation Christian have a little different but you get into reconvisory water wastewater. You're into single year terms. Let's start right on page one. Larry do you want to stay as the ex officio member of the budget committee. I think Erica was doing anything before she left him. Yeah, I haven't I haven't been on the budget committee in a long time. I think Erica briefly took over and then before she moved. I might be right. So who wants to be the ex officio of the budget committee. Well, is that something you'd be interested in? We have to do like the appointment stuff or can we just do it all. We're going to do it all as one. Usually once once a month, not every month. I'm going to guess that a lot of these we haven't say easy fiber. Delicacies and relationships. Don't think send us a thing once a year at some point that we have to fill out and we do the appointments at that point. Yep. Yeah, this user just gave you the full list. Um, emergency management director. And coordinators need somebody who's going to be pretty active in that right now. I would be good. We just, uh, this won't be our only shot at this tonight. We're just going to hit the big ones and the ones that we know. And then it'll actually come up on the agenda for the next two or three months. While we find people and get them all plugged in. We also like to give some of these committees a chance to tell us. And if we have more than one person applying, we'd like them to wait in on it. Doesn't mean we'll always do what they want, but it's nice to hear what they think. How they think it's reaching a balance and that group. So. That's just an area that we ought to be looking at because we're a little weak in that area. Health officer. We have 20. Um, at the state's process time. Local emergency planning committee. If possible, it might be nice at some point. To link. The EMC pieces with those pieces. Yeah, since they met for him doesn't work in Vermont anymore. So. So at a minimum in state. You probably ought to be looking for. In people for that. Mountain Alliance rep. So that's doing you. It's still me. It says 10 factor. Is that a hint? I'm more wishful thinking. The garbage is our for the foreseeable future. All right. Okay. Although we, we functionally do run that. So there would be room for a board member to serve as the board representative Mount Alliance. And I would still get to keep that prestigious. Title of garbage. So if you are interested. Anybody interested in being on the board of the mountain alliance. Tell us more about it. Yeah, I mean, it's our solid waste district. Yeah, we're functionally the head. We run a lot of, we run a lot of, we run a lot of, we run a lot of, we run a lot of military. I feel like I'm forgetting someone in the mix. Roxbury. Yeah. And there's not a lot for anybody on the board to do. There might be. We actually had a meeting in, in a while. Kasella is our contractor. They run most of the operating stuff. Most of the permanent stuff. How sold hazardous waste days get coordinated and communicated. And then we make sure that through that contract with Kasella we're able to do some solid waste to the hazardous waste days to recycling. Most pieces. So. It's not quite as exciting as being board secretary. As they got not more responsibility, but they're pretty close right now. So you don't, you don't even think about that one. Yeah. Yeah. Trevor's is the mountain of lions. Isn't it mostly about the household hazardous waste? Isn't that the, by far, the biggest piece of that? That's pretty much what it does. And then we operate the transfer stations through that contract as well. Oh, okay. Yeah. But like the stump dump, for example, falls under our old landfill permit and we manage that. So even that piece is separate. That's crystal. Yeah. I don't think we've had one for as long as I've been here. So. We're just talking about it at Tom meeting. You should be interested. Yes. We should talk about that. Once we've got a list of the ones that you maybe want to advertise and see who's interested. We can do that. To control that one in there. Superintendent of cemeteries. It was, but since Randy left. And they can. Heron functionally does it, but. I'm looking at role is and whether the. Got it. Over. Over there's the right person for it. Or if it's something else. Count engineer. We've talked about hiring. Somebody to do that function. I got firm. On service officer. We have these positions anymore. They think we still exist. In statute. Certainly the service officer does. Has it been filled for a while? It's a weird little offshoot of, I mean, the health officer ends up covering. A lot of what that would be. Just through the interactions with the folks. And so this might be somebody who connects. Folks to. Other social service agencies that are out there if they're having some sort of issue. And or through. Just general contact with us. This is a 19th century holdover. You can take this role. We'll get you a snow roller. You can help us with the winter news. Probably confirm that Sam and Jeff want to continue. They've done such a good job with it. I didn't want to ask them. Put them in. Two rivers reps. Reach out to Chris to see if he's still interested. We could use an alternate. It would be nice to have it be a board member or playing active, planning commissioner, active board member in one or both of those roles. Because otherwise we lose, it's not a knock. Towns do this all the time. That's where you start. And then as you get there, it's whoever's interested in available. So you lose a little bit of connectivity when you hit that point. And we've got a good dynamic with them. We still pretty well connected, but it would be nice to have. Somebody in their policy making process that's also in ours. I think it would be really interesting being the alternate. At least we can possibly. If there's no one else to do that. Primary. Work with staff. It's okay. Awesome. Great. So you know, I would be the alternate to the alternative chefs. The primary. I mean, we confirm if Chris is interested still, if he's not put Jeff in as the primary and Matt is. And then you wouldn't have to be the alternate to the alternate. You could be the ultimate. Really good. Stay around. We got a few others. I can stay in the tack role too. I mean. Well, should we work John into that? I'm trying. That's what it is in most places. Yeah. That would be a nice because of the topics covered. That would be nice. Maybe he pals along the one. Somebody can. Ambulance. Yeah, Steve Webster stepped off as our primary representative toward the end of the calendar year of 23. So. This would be a good one. Is there anybody on the board that wants to be the. Ref on the ambulance. That you're interested in it, Larry. We haven't got. We haven't gotten to my committees yet. I'm hoping to keep my brain full with those two. The ambulance. We need to find. So I think it's pretty well set. All right. Conservation commission. We have, we have some folks that haven't. So. Yeah. You're losing Jessamine. Courtney Gately. Jeff there. And Harrison Dreith are the ones I think that are stepping off. The commission forwarded us the list of names with an alternate list of names. So I think we should. Let me see if I can find some term info. As well. It was a mixture of. Links. We were considering Sue and. Yeah. Yeah. And then we didn't actually. Yeah, you held it. I don't remember. So there's one two year term and there's half can happen. There's listed next to that in the, you know, and the others would be for a three year term. With one alternate. Ken would be the two year. Everybody else. So Sue, Jason, Rob, and wouldn't Rob, but I'll be three. And then Tom would be an alternate. Yeah. So. Do you have any concerns with any of those? I don't know who Jason is. I know Bob. Let's see. And then they were really excited about soup. Well, they didn't come from the committee. Right. So, yeah. I guess, and they're pretty excited about all of them. Well, sure. No concerns on any of them. I, I think that's what we're gonna do. And then we'll move on. Design review advisory commission. We've just blank that out for now. We go back, figure out its origins, its roots, its needs before we put anybody on it. It's been dormant order. This is basically a design control district in Randolph center. It was driven by members of Randolph center at the time. came about with a couple of projects. The main one that drove it was McDonald's. Somebody didn't like the yellow eyebrow over the order box. Is it an eyebrow about what that is? It could be. It was a mustache. Yeah, it was a mustache. You can't end the eyebrow though. It was some of it was that and some of it was the exit for stuff. They didn't, they didn't want any development next to four and so they wanted to design control. That whole time came a long way after and nobody on the committee to do anything at that point. But it's never been fully staffed. There's never been enough volunteers there. I think the only project that I know of that went through that was the McDonald's. They waited on the hotel. They had some comments on the hotel. I think. Who are they? That committee. It was only like one or two by then. John Bowman. He lives right up next to the furnace street there. Yeah, but it. They got really active. The McDonald's because they came to the slept board even asking us to. They've been really quiet. And their doors are really yellow. I wouldn't have anything to do with. With what we might do. Be doing in. In terms of sidewalks and walkways. This was one they want, you know, at one point they wanted every house white. They wanted them set back certain distance. Everybody had to have a sidewalk in front of their house. it was a whole big plan they brought to the planning commission back when I was on that end of the RV and we were just like not in Randolph. That just doesn't fit. It was quite a process. Which that's what that group is and that's what they do is and they're advisory to the DRV. And the DRV, wait, wait. So the DRV would have to dissolve it? No, it's like Ford does. But it would be up for the, you know, it might be worth a conversation with the DRV and flip it to them and be like, you know, do you get any value out of this? Is this really a unnecessary group to order Kennedy done by the DRV? My guess is it could be him at the DRV. So it looks like on the DRV we have one position, the end of O. You've got to check with Dan to make sure, but I haven't heard. There's the change in chairs. Are you not chair of the RV and all right? Oh, it's not formal yet. But at our next meeting, I'll nominate Dan as willing to be the chair. Not a member if you can't unless he comes in just as he wants to re-up and he would be. He's not a member? He is. He expired, but he's got to advise that he wants to stay. Okay. Well, make sure he does. He does want to stay. Make sure he knows that. Well, if you just think you're a chair, we'll take your word for it. You could always appoint him and then if he doesn't want to, he leaves, you know. And then you'll be able to appoint him at your next meeting instead of waiting. You want to opt that quickly? Well, you're just on your chair, you're not going to have to be a member, right? You're staying on there. I'm staying on, not going to have to be assigned to planning commissions. Do we know if he, if that's a three here? Those are all threes. It's what's listed. So that's about $27,000? Yep. I think I know. And we have no alternates on that currently. I don't think we do. There's space for three, I think. Three alternates. And then the question of whether anybody wants to be an ex-officio member. You can go, you can participate in the conversations, but you don't have a vote. I can do that. Planning commission. So needs some help. Yep. Which one are we on? Planning commission. And Matt is not asking us on it, but we voted him on, but he's not. That's right. Yeah. And, and I'm, I'm the chair of the planning commission. Do you have a vice chair, Larry? Jeff, didn't we? Is Jeff still there? Yes, I am. I don't, I thought we had a conversation where we probably thought we did not need a vice chair. And I would handle most of the administrative duties for that, as far as warning the meeting and writing minutes. But I don't know if that's a legal setup for the committee or not. So, but I do call that conversation where I think. I, I thought we had started a conversation about having a vice chair, but maybe we got off track and didn't, didn't finish. I, but my memory is not clear. You'd have to redo them anyway, right? Yeah. Your first meeting after meeting day, you'd have to reorganize and re-vote. So you can pick one up then. I could do that. But we need to get you some more members. I believe that with, with me being in the chair slot, we have one opening. Am I in the grab? Or am I a staffer? Am I a voting member of that? So no, no. Larry's ex-officio. So he's not voting either. Oh, he's chair. Yeah. Two vacancies. Wait a second. Some things. One, two, three. I believe it's a seven member commission and there's only six positions listed. In addition to the ex-officio position. Yeah. So I think, I think if you, if I'm, if I'm in the, in the chair spot, and we, at our, at a recent slipboard meeting we appointed Matt Morowski to the board, that would fill up the six that we have shown here. And there's one additional slot that's not on the, on our list that we need to fill. You're, you're ex-officio and then there's seven? No, I'm, I'm on the board because I took over, I took over for Perry who was on the board. I don't know. I don't know why it's listing me as ex-officio here. That was never the case. But you can't vote. You can't vote as a board member though. Are you sure? Because I thought that, that was not. So can we learn about, we'll sort that out. Let's, yeah, we'll need to figure that out because. We're either looking for one or two people. Yeah. And boy, that's okay. That's going to be interesting because okay. Yeah, we'll have to figure that out. Can I ask a silly question? Yeah. Being new. Do all board members have to be on a board committee or commission? There's some of them have a slot that somebody's on and some of them don't. And the committee, we just find somebody that wants to be on that committee, but it doesn't mean that. The number of committees has also jumped in the last three years too. So some of the dance spots that were open for aren't there like capital budgeting, arts and culture. Right now, energy is defunct functionally. Yeah. There are some others. I'd actually. Could be there or could not be there. I actually think that having an energy committee, having an energetic energy committee would be really important. It's pretty much a standard town committee that are all over the state. And. Somebody agrees with you. What's that? Somebody here agrees with you. And I was, I was, I was really hoping that we'd have a select board member who would be a part of that committee and help revive it. Well, your wishes are coming true. So I got a running list of spots to advertise and we can do, like we need at least three members to that. There's just five total and there were two that were appointed. Jerry Ward is interested. And Jerry's interest. Yeah. So we'll, we'll at least advertise three. I would be on that also, but can I vote as a staff person or is that another advisory? You'd have to be appointed to be a voting member and it wouldn't be prohibited given the advisory nature of it's just a practice thing for us. If you're going to staff it, then there's a practice thing. You shouldn't also vote, but. So she gets some applications in. I think if we could do five and have it staffed as needed, that's puts us in a pretty strong spot. If where we are to get stuff done is we need a fit. Then maybe that's when we look. I might consider it. And then picked up to see her two thirds in a 67% of the way that. And then your email. Collect them all. And if we're reviving it, you're ready to put on. We're here. We're here. So you'll, we'll advertise the energy committee and get folks. Alyssa wants to be on that. Jerry Ward wants to stay on it. And we'll have staff support. Or appointed, depending on what we get for membership interest. Recreation committee. Do we know that these four on here want to come back? I think so. Brian and Cori had an accent. The other side was either. So that's the one that was out of me. Yes, I'll let her hear. And you want to stay on that one. Stephanie. Yes, I will advertise for more on that committee. Yeah. Well, I have to ask for at least two. Who's calling on that? Recreation committee. Brian. I heard. Tonya. Here's, I'm very fat and Chelsea Brown. A lot of wastewater. Listen Larry. Yes. Yes. We've got a really good group. And we're missing Jessamine from the, from the list of current members. Because I do believe it's a seven member committee and we're all, and we're full right now. Although I do want to, I do need to check in with Mariah. To see if she wants to stay on the committee. She hasn't attended a meeting quite some time. We have to have a police services committee. So I should stay on here. And we figure it out. And there's an east brand off. That's on there. I was an ex officio on that one. I'm sure they're there. That one's open. We don't need somebody on them. That's a. If you want. But they report to us quite often. We all stand to walk through it. Anybody have any other names that came to mind or anything? They'd like to see different. These guys here have a lot of time. They're going to the end of this year is a good. They're all, yeah. They would have terminated in time for. So they're done as a town meeting day. Okay. That was my question. Okay. So they have the renewals. But I saw their agenda the other day had. Checking on who want to be members. So, so there could be a new list coming from them that we. If we have any other groups out there. We've lost a few over the last couple of years with energy being down. And no capital that got rolled into budget base. Workflow and then arts and culture pulled itself down. Basically economic development, same thing too. So we had more, but. Are you going to add the place or space right now? We can. I mean, the conversation for the board will be, what do you want it to become? Where are we at? What do you want to become? We're going to look at a different charge. Most of what was in the original third. Yeah. So what is that? What is the new charge look like? What are, do we need that committee? And if so, what do we need it to do? Yeah. I don't know what to get Simon there. And it's kind of, I talked about a little bit too. And I was trying to kind of push forward some of the. Mental health services nurses. Like community and how that books and supports the police. So that may be something that could be. Helpful to keep pressure on and keep eyes on. If it's a different mix of people, yeah. So, you know, is that a town committee that does that? Or is that a working group that supports Scott that does that? Because that to me feels more like a Claire Martin center, taking a little more active role. And sure, if I try to function. Yeah, trying to connect those pieces of things. And if there's definitely could be some good to come of it, of just a lot of people's space to bring ideas and work on things that might be helpful for Scott's charge. It can be a town committee. It needs to write up a charge. Yeah. What they're going to do, what that looks like. By that comes into the town or under something else. Yeah. Some of what we heard in the service and stuff was that people wanted this other whole support system built out there that was outside of law enforcement. And I think that, you know, then you got to look at, is that a town function? Or is that a Claire Martin function? Is that whose function is that? And that definitely a group that we put together. The question is, is that a so-called point of the group or is that a, that looks like, well, there is already an individual, there's the, I don't think it's specific to brand off of Kristen Chandler. And I think Neil and me on it. They need that an arrow how to read the article. It may be not a select one topic, or maybe a social service topic. You know, there's a group, there's a few different groups that get together on social service issues and whatnot. And maybe pulling some of them it feels bigger conversation. It'd be, yeah. The interest is, you know, Scott would think if it would be helpful towards this department, what it would look like if it were, or if it's something that's when you're saying it's not quite a function anymore. I just don't know. It depends what you're, what you set up your charge as, you know, like, what it looks like. I haven't put any thought into it, so it would be, I just know that when we were going to the police services stuff, it really was kind of a, there was almost this law enforcement and supporting law enforcement, but the, the help that was wanted was after they were done with that, right? Like how do you take that person who's got her good done with and whatnot? And they've gotten the medical attention and whatnot. They need to give them the support they need to move forward. And it's making that connection that I think is where it seemed like the system was broken, but I don't know who's, who you bring to the table to make that kind of change. Because I thought we had the right people who are disabled in some of those discussions, but I didn't hear much interest in stepping up and doing that role. Yeah. So could this committee then be used one of those people that were like, that stuff is going and pushing and looking on the connection for that? Yeah, but I think the town, you know, what's the town's role in that? Right, we know that's, it's, you got to make that connection to why that's a town function in, in what you put for a charge for that. For me, it feels more like the state has identified Clara Martin Center as the regional mental health provider. And we, we saw the weakness every time they came to the table to meet with us in the police services, but I don't, it felt to me like it's the state's job to get Clara Martin Center to step up and provide the service they needed to and that that was coming with the two person response. I just don't. It's a tough one because let's say you got a week late there. Yeah. And, but is it the town's job to step up and pick up the part of the, of that equally? I don't, I don't think it is. I think it's our job to influence them to do their job or who's funding them to get them to do their job. I have a comment, but I don't know how we how we do it, right? Like we don't have a social service department in town. We really want to that's why the energy is the most important thing. Aren't you passing the budget for that one? Imagine the energy for that one. Yeah. But I think you're right. I think it's Clara Martin I'm a nurse practitioner. So I've done a lot of counseling things, but I think it's Clara Martin's thing. But I think the town is part of it because meetings I've gone to the town meeting and all that talking about the police force in general. A lot of people were talking about we need first responders including the police or those people that are part of the police department or relegated to taking calls that are issues that with mental health. We thought that I thought that they would be some kind of relationship that they would be somebody on call that the police department would call and if it was relevant. That's the way I saw it. And that's what I think a lot of people saw it. But I think it's up to I think it's about the Clara Martin and I'm not sure that they're going to go do anything is what I'm coming from unless they get pushed to do it. I think there's two different pieces there. One of them is what happens at a scene with law enforcement. That one I agree that we need to do something for some type of relationship with somebody to provide that immediate service. The other one is it's our law enforcement folks are done. They've left the scene and this person has gone to the hospital for an overdose. Then whose job is it to help them get the services they need from that point forward. The hospital. Well it's almost like you need a care coordination kind of thing. You know is that a town function? Well right. I don't know if that's a town function. I think that's you know as a provider. If I'm in the emergency room for riding health care then it's my job and the social service job of the people at the hospital to get this person connected. That's their job. But that's where we heard repeatedly the system was falling down. Well it is. So the question is if you were going to put a group together to try to solve that next problem is it the town's job to put that committee together and work on that issue? Is it Claire Martin's job? Is it a different job? Like who pulls that group together to do that next? I think there should be someone that goes to this part of part of a bigger group from the town. But I don't think it's a town's job. I think it's I think it's Claire Martin particularly and the hospital getting together with some kind of mental care facility that's outpatient that's emergent those kind of things. They need to come with a plan. That's my opinion as a provider of health care. Yeah I think we've got to look at like what is the next role for that police services committee? Like is there more to do and there is on what that I want the actual policing in Randolph looks like there's some more to do with that. I think there's also some benefit to having some type of committee to work with Scott on other issues that they come up with. But I don't know that those are the same group of people. Yeah I think Grover's on it right now might not continue on once we change the charge for sure. If you know that's the answer to us. I think that's the thing that's not real. All right we'll have put some thought into that one. And what would you? Okay. Onward I'm upward. Onward. Onward. Onward, Larry. Oh yeah just while we were discussing that I did look at the Vermont statutes online and it doesn't appear to be any restriction on who can be on the planning commission. So I mean I don't know if we want to look into it some more but I read through the relevant sections and I didn't see anything that mentions anything about select board members not being able to be on a planning commission. They don't even have to be all residents it just has to be a majority. It's interesting. All right let's move forward. Always forward never straight. Just discuss how many. This is just a general check in if there's anything you want to cover. About the process the day thanks to keep in mind for next year. What worked what didn't. If you want to just think about it we've got some time before we have to do the next one. So while it's fresh in your mind if there's anything that you'd like to see a little differently. My big takeaway. Okay my big takeaway was that it seems pretty seem pretty clear that we should be starting to think about a charter for our town and so that we can address some of the issues that that have come up around town meeting. That seems like that would be a really good thing for us to start talking about. For other reasons too. I think we have lots of good reasons as Trevor has alluded to in the past but did make me think about that in particular. Charter votes are rostering about it too. So you think about participation. I couldn't have been more disappointed with such a small margin but of people honestly thinking it's not a good idea to let other people have a say in town issues that just blows my mind. I just really struggled with that one. People that voted were they supposed to be registered voters? Because two people afterwards told me that they weren't registered voters but voted. Moderators job to make sure they're voting away. They you know the right people are voting but there was a few things that happened in that meeting that were not kosher and the way that it was run. We never go back and take up topics after you're done with them. That shouldn't have happened. There shouldn't have been some of the discussion items shouldn't have been allowed. No offense but you shouldn't be in the town meeting trying to get people to vote for you. There was a bunch of things that she should have like if she's going to run it the way she needs to run the meeting she should have run it that way and it would just list so many things that I was just like if somebody wants to challenge it they got plenty of ends. The challenge what went down that day in that meeting but fortunately I don't think anybody there was no big burning topics that anybody was going to pick apart but I'm surprised there was a lack of J.P. who was involved too. It was before he was not even barely a president. See what happens. I just have one comment. What was that to mean? I don't think it really makes a difference whether it's on a Saturday or Tuesday. I think we got more participation on Tuesday. The numbers are much higher on a Tuesday than they were on Saturday. So the reason that we changed it was we thought we'd get more people involved. Nobody wanted to talk about changing it back and it's got to be voted off before. So as long as they like their smaller groups and Saturday meetings you're stuck with it. For next year though the select board could put that on the agenda to be voted on by moving it back to Tuesday. Yeah, on the floor. On the floor. I would certainly support that. I think if people prioritize it they prioritize it and they come. So I don't think there's many excuses for not coming on a Saturday. I think there's a lot, there's a lot. A lot of people have little kids. It was sugary. All your sugar makers were out oiling. You're not going to waste a day sitting there in Chandler when that's your money for the year. Right, you got to make it while you can. There's a lot of things going on there for conflicts. Well, I don't think I disagree. I think you can babysit her as you can. You can leave for a couple of hours. You can, you know, you can. Can you shut down a fire for a couple hours? You can. Shut down a good mass. So I think there's more than one person that's doing that work. You know, should the sugaring part, if you want to talk about. I think there's a lot of conflicts and I don't think, and that's why I think we should look to harder at letting people vote when they could versus happen to be right there to vote for. I think Western is compelling evidence. We have enough man not just ran up from other towns to show that moving to Saturday is more, leads to greater turnout. We'll go back to Tuesday. But if there's not evidence that Saturday is just better attended, we shouldn't be doing Saturdays. I think we're talking even, not just about the day of the week. It's the facts of the Israeli ballot film. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm very curious. And there's back to Tuesday. Our numbers are much higher. Not that they're very high to begin with. But, you know, we had about 40 to 45 people more. Yeah, that was on Tuesday. Yeah, that's what I just said was, but I just, I mean, we had almost, but we had over 1200 people. Well, we had 1200 ballots, but I'm not keeping it telling Tuesday to vote. Because they're coming to town, they're coming to town. I mean, I know that's over a 12-hour period. Right. But I mean, if you're. It'd be interesting if we'd patch at the time. But I think like, first thing when they open, it's quite a few, it's where they go to work. And there's a number that are after work in noontime. So. But they could, it is not to make sure that it's kind of thought like right in the middle of your. Sure. Yeah. But you like, can you look at data of how many went through it? Yeah, I'm not sure if it's that smart. Yeah. I think it is for the straight. I don't have an AI. What are you finding mysteriously? Yeah. Feet and battered. It's that devoting machine. It's like a person. Show you how smart I am. So they also run out as a team out through when it's slow anyway. So they're not around until after work. Well, I did this time. That's true. This time they did not. Yeah. So we would get good data on their kind of when. Yeah. The easiest way might be when people check in. If you printed the checklist in a way where you have a. Sort of a time and people can take the minute to just say it's 1006. 715, whatever it might be. But even if they're literally going to go back and call the people doing that, might know whenever it's easiest in these blocks. They said it was busy all day long. They do want to come in through all day long because they didn't get a chance to do the absentee ballots like they normally do. Yeah. You do see that there are bubbles. Yeah. When you expect them to. I mean, so I was looking for the statistics in my bag when I went there, but. When you're talking about what at the height of that, we had fewer than 90 people there. 3700 registered voters. So 75 people voted on whether to let everybody have a say or not. It was 40 something that made it this. 40 to 35. And when we see that things are by Australian, but when we went all Australian about both during COVID and just sort of at the tail end of it, participation numbers were up. Those were the highest voting percentage years in that five year block. That we looked at so. And we can't do anything until next year. And next year we'd have to pick one or the other of like. Moving it to try to move it to Tuesday or. Australian ballot. Well, it sort of depends on what you want. If you're going to try to move everything to Australian ballot, you still have to have. So the big event out of all of this was that Monday hearing that seven people came to that's the one that's that's totally required. That was where we had all the information. That's sort of a chance. You can have that at different moments and I worked in Essex. We had it on the Monday before Tuesday voting. Except to have it within X number of days of town meeting. You could use that as your town meeting functionally in terms of when people get together and have a chance to talk about stuff. But you wouldn't keep the Tuesday for meeting if everything is determined by Australian ballot. Because you wouldn't sort of jam those two pieces together. You got to have the information meeting before you have the ballot and for example. I mean, there's so many to even do. I mean, I didn't know that. Obviously, so like is there information? We can even just like some no share of people. You can still have your town meeting, right? You can still talk about all the questions. You can still get the opinions. You can still have all that conversation and they can still have their pie. It's who gets a say in the topics that are not money related. That was the big issue in 40 people. But we should have that data. Anything else from town meeting? Maybe more people come next time because of that vote. I don't know. Been pretty late. I wonder if anybody goes to the town meeting and actually changes their mind? I think everybody has their mind made up before they even go to the meeting. Several people stood up and said they've been going back and forth, back and forth. And I was going back and forth and back and forth. I was. I was. I said, oh, okay. Okay. Yep. Well, a few people then, but I just seemed like to me, everybody has their mind made up before they even go up your number. Do it probably if they especially if they're informed. I mean, it is like Trevor was saying, I think that we previous meeting where you're really talking about the issues and stating the reason behind this, the key. Well, there was almost nobody else. When we're there for a different meeting. Yeah. Let's move on. Consider approving the annual B trans financial. I've got two of these here for you folks to sign. These are part of these annual requirements. So one is the annual financial plan. That's the TA 60. That's the one we saw the numbers in the road miles. Basically where we certify that we spend more than $300 per mile. Like I mentioned to you, that's closer to $31,000. So I think we're good to get our money. Yep. Most towns vastly received that mark. I think it was set up in large part to make sure that we didn't just take state highway and use the dollar or taxes that we actually applied it to these, but I don't think the $300 has changed since that was set. And I don't know when it was set, but wow. And then we mentioned just a couple of projects. This one, I had one thing for this one. We have to split it to winter maintenance and non-winter maintenance. That's not how we budget. We do, we have our categories separately. So usually what I do is take though what are clearly winter expenses, put them in their own category, split the other things 50-50, unless we have something that we know with a non-winter maintenance expense exclusively. That's how you get to those numbers that are split up like that, and why they don't look like the categories in our budget. And up top, these are the calculations that gets you to sort of buy road mileage type, what we should receive back for highway eight on that. And then the other one is a certification of compliance to town road bridge standards network inventory. So we do those inventories done at regular intervals by T-Rorg. And we've got standards that are in place. They were adopted prior, I think to that June 5th, 2019 one. So we just certify that we do that. And just to make sure that we know how that's tied to the cold in Australia. I mean, we can show that you know what condition they're in, where they're in, where they're hydrologically connected to paired waterways or that we've got a good replacement plan for that. So this one came about with some of the water quality. The MRGP stuff. Yeah. So those will just, if you adopt them, they will require signature of the jury. And then we'll get them off to the state. We need a motion or just signatures. A motion would be the love. Okay. Give them a motion. And the second one will do a favor. Fine. Bye. Bye. I'm going to go out on a limb and say, we can also apply for a class two paving grant. Those are due April 15th. We could do formal approval on the 11th when you meet, but I'm assuming you're okay with that. We were last year. The Enville Road would be the target because we did parts of East Bepple, which was the target grant project last year. And that was in our budgeting and capital programming conversation too that would go for that grant. Good limb to be on. Consider approving the required VCVP forms for the grant. And every so often we have to do these standard forms that are required by the state. HUD requires it of them. So this one's for the accessibility grant for the Friends of the Historic Playhouse. Money's passing through us. Two rivers is going to be the primary manager. They've got, I think, some of the assets in their own group. So we're fairly hands-off. Jeff and Mark have done more of the coordination with them since it predates Jeff a little bit. Grants roll. So we've listed two rivers. I have to be listed on there to my great enjoyment. The universe's way of having a little fun. But same thing, it's set up as a resolution. There's a grant agreement that goes with it. There'll be a sub-grant agreement with the Friends of the Historic Playhouse that outlines what they're supposed to do and how they're supposed to do it. And we have really been up front with them, like we've been up front with other pastors, is we are, we're conduit. You've got to do your own stuff. And so that's certainly the intent. Okay. Motion to approve that. So moved. Second. Well, those in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. I'm going to say aye. I'm going to say aye. Can I actually get the motion? I thought I was reading. I'm going to say aye. We have a good report. And we met with FEMA the other day. We're still working on the July storm event. We hope to see some money for three projects coming back soon. None of the real big ones, but before we brought some Jersey barriers, we had to bring removal costs, and there was a small amount of work on Palmer Road. So all totaled is less than 50,000 bucks, minus everybody's proportionate share. Don't have a timeline on that, but that's where that's at. And then trying to finish that up, so schedule site inspections. We got 23 audit back. Just got to finalize it. So at some point you'll get a presentation on that one. We'll have an RFP to present to you too here sooner than later. We've got to go back out for audit services. It's a best practice. It's time. And time on a couple of different levels. There we've got mud. People calling about mud. People have been very nice about mud this year. I do appreciate it. I do want to note that for the record, they did call and make sure we're aware of that because there's nothing we can do. They've been out. They're trying. John's crew has inverted the order when they put materials in certain places. They've gone with, I think, bigger stuff first and finds on top and they've changed some things. And it's helped in spots, but at a certain point, the master of earth sciences, but the mud does what it wants to do. The December storm events now theme eligible, so that's good news we mentioned that earlier. The Northwells are federal earmark. We should have the application process over here within the next month or so on us how we'll actually access those ones. We're going to use those very specifically. It's a little easier if we target them right to the tank. So that new half million gallon reservoir tank, we'll just spend them right on that. And it works pretty nicely. And then our match will come out of our water supply loan. The state will take federal dollars, convert them to state dollars. We can use that as a match. So we save our sort of match capital for the Northern borders grant, for example, which we're about to have extended through the end of September as well. So that project is still on track. We just got billed for tank storage, which is a good sign in that it needs. The tank is ready to come to us. It's a little unfortunate to have a bill for something sitting on a lot somewhere else, but it's positive. I think those are in. I remember those. The nerdy blisters are wearing off some of that energy splatter. Sugar high. Yep. Now it's the crash. When I'm billed like Scott, I can't. I don't live this way. All right. Any questions on the manager's report? None. Executive session. That's so much I don't know. It's too long. So we need, we need to have two for this one. One's the finding that it's necessary, prudent. So that's motion one, because a couple of these topics fall into the two. So when we go into executive session, we have to provide a reason why we do it and quote state law and then some of the topics we need to find first that it's necessary. And then we enter with the topic listing. So that's all we have to, I forget, there's two or three of them. I need that. The contracts one, for example, ending problem litigation. Those are all findings. Thank you for your service. Motion one is finding that it's necessary, and prudent and that premature general public knowledge will replace the town at a disadvantage. Second. All those in favor. Now it's the one to find that you need to enter. As I mentioned in the report, we've got one we want to just touch base on. That's the pending probable litigation piece. So there are to consider a motion to enter executive session pursuant to do your favor here. One VSA 313 A1A, that's for contracts. And he is one VSA 313 A1B for collective bargaining. We've got a process coming up. Just want to touch base on that. One VSA 313 A1E, that's the pending probable litigation. And one VSA 313 A2, which is real estate, just want to check in on something that's best handled there. So moved. All the time. That's all those in favor. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll take a second. I'm going to kick some folks off if they don't and I just end the recording too. Recording stopped. I'm going to take a quick run up right here over there. Take Orca out. Sorry, Orca.