 You can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications button so you're notified for when my next podcast goes live. That's what a lot of people don't see. You don't see the behind the scenes look. You only see the... He's in the cage, he's fighting. You see your way in looking ripped and that. You see your fight. You see your interviews and that. He's just being paid loads of dope with that. We haven't. We haven't lad. We just go back to the gym now and as you can see from me blowing up in weight and then have to work our way back down and get another fight to carry on paying the bills. I'm getting less now for the UFC than I did for me. Some of me cage ready this fight. I've took a pay cut for this fight. I still want me pictures and videos, you rat. I wasn't the hardest in my school. I wasn't the hardest in my year. I mean I was just a little kid. I just started doing something. I put my heart, mind and soul into it lad and where I am now. I hate people who put personas in that on lad. I hate Colby Covington lad. Don't know if you know him or not. I hate him lad. I hope you get to buy a bus. And he's just proper annoying. I've been told he's got a ghost writer and all that lad. Doesn't even come up with all his own stuff he comes out with. It's all an act isn't it? It's all an act. Everything he does behind the cameras, he's not like that. That's a mega money fight. I've been asked before who's the one fight. Who you'd want to fight. And you're always saying him because of the money involved. It's going to be a peep of you. You're going to get part of the peep of you. You're going to want to fight me Gregor. As I've said. That's me the next few years lad. And we're on to today's guest. We've got Paddy the baddie. How are you brother? I'm good lad. I'm good. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on. It's an absolute pleasure mate. Buzzing for you that a bit. I've viewed over 200 people now. You don't kind of get a buzz anymore. But I was buzzing for you today. You've been all over social media. And internet over the last two or three weeks. But you've been about for ages prior to that. But you've made world headlines now. You've arrived man. How are you feeling? I always said this was going to happen. Literally from day one. I always said. I think I've said it in interviews before. I had my first fight. But I said it years ago. Give me one fight. One post-fight interview. And everyone will be talking about me lad. That's what happened. So to be honest there hasn't. I had done my bed dead and more. And some of the like some of me made dead and more. When like without somewhere. And people are asking me for photos. Because I'm used to it lad. I knew this was coming. I've always seen it in my future. And it's only going to get bigger and better. Do you practice a lot of attraction? So so. To be honest. Because I don't like reading to it. And go over stuff like that. But I tell. I say what I'm going to do. It happens. None of it. Yeah. Because when I followed Conor McGregor five, six years ago. His presence. His aura. Everything he says. You believe them. You thought this guy's on the path. His frequency. His energy. Everything was kind of in line. And everything ever set out to do. He achieved like. I get that same feeling with you. Everything you say. I believe you. Like I genuinely do. Everything you put into existence already. And everything that you're saying you're going to do. Like the fight in Anfield. And I believe you're going to be the one that's doing it. And you believe it most. I think. Not just all the scousers are behind you. But I think everybody in the world. That is fucking unbelievable. The eyelid. Like some of the mad messages. I've had some people all over the world. And I can't even like now. I can't even keep up with them. Where have made that new account. My message requests are just. Off the chart. But. I know. I'm going to make that field happen. I've always said it. Like. Whenever I'm there and I'm watching the game. I was there last Wednesday. I was there Saturday. I'm just looking at the pitch like. In the night there. I'm going to see to fit on there. As I'm watching the match. I'm thinking that it'd be heavy in here. Because especially now with that new stand. That stands getting like renovated in it. So. When that gets done. There's even more seats in there. And then the seats on the ground. I'd probably do. Just a bit less than Wembley or something. I don't know what you mean. That's class. Unbelievable. I always like to go back to the start of my guest brother. Where you grew up. How it all began. Well. I grew up in. In Aitindad. Well. Greystone. I built a line on that. No. That was a typically bad area or not. It's. Like. Like when a swimming mate from the gym comes. Comes to us. That's the very first time. It's funny that. I can feel the weight. You know. Stuff like that. All over the place. Park Road. And I always say. My dad. He had times of that. Times of that. In the first ever time. The other comes to us. He'll start laughing at it. I was like. You live in this house. You say times of that. But. And. What was it? I was calling me that. I was calling me. The Fresh Prince of Aitindad. What was the hairstyle like then? Proper skinned lad. On the first day. I was like. Proper skinned. I didn't even think about growing me. Then I looked back at me. I was like. What was you up to lad? Like. What's going on with your head? Proper big head. Like two in a one. Three in a two. And. I just looked after it now. I couldn't go back to that. I do now. That's one of the things that everyone's been going on about. You need to take it. You need this. Want it and get it. And get it and get it. I don't want to get it and get it. I got the adress lad. Get the layers for it. You know what I mean? How is your school? Carden Leahman lad. All over your school. When I see Margaret Mary's before that. They're under strokes out the seniors. Don't be Carden Leahman. Few people went to our school lad. Like. I'm sure David Price did old Gerard did. You know what I mean. So. Bit of a mad one. Like. At the same time. time because there was no girls there. Funny stuff happened but it didn't happen when there was girls there because people would be too embarrassed and stuff like that. So, school was funny. I didn't like it but now when you look back at it, my dad always says you'll miss it when you're having a garden. He's right. Because I know you've spoke about school, the teacher says you wouldn't make it to anything and if you don't stick in because you never really borrowed your ass. Yeah, I like to have a laugh in school. I think everyone did, but they always tell me I was an academic who was this or was that. I was smart and needed to contact them in school. One day I got caught selling that, selling the Crusades and Discos and Galaxies and many of them told you it's that day with one with the most brother on. And I got Nick selling one day and I got put in one of the teacher's offices and she was like, what are you doing this for? And that sold for me a seven anyway, so it wasn't like I was selling before that reason. But I said to her, I'm paying for me gym, blah, blah. And she was like, oh, I don't want to do that pattern here. You're too small. You're too small for all that. You're an academic. You need to concentrate on your school work. She was like, yeah, go on, son. Obviously, I went back to the gym that night. Just carried on doing it as it was. And I've been invited back into the school since then to talk to the kids and that's all. And that teacher was there. No way. Yeah. Say sorry. No, I'll just tell you, probably can't even remember it. Yeah, I'd fucking chinned them. I said, look what I'm doing now. I mean, that just shows you back in school and that because you don't follow, some people don't follow suit and have to jump through the hoops that everybody else that everybody's different. You've clearly proved that that anybody can be anything as long as you believe in what you're fucking out of. Yeah, that's what I always say, lad. I always say, like, I was a small kid. I wasn't a big kid. I think that helped me now because I started to train them when I was smaller. So when I started to train them when I was smaller, I got used to being with bigger people. And now that I'm one of the bigger ones, I can be, like, I can wear both ways. I can be pushing the pace on people or getting it pushed on me where I was the smaller man. I always say it now. Kids nowadays, you just need to get into some sort of, not even a martial art, some sort of sport. It gives you a bit of self-discipline and it teaches you that the hard work you put in, you get rewards out of it. And that's what you do with life. What ease did you start going to martial arts? Was it martial arts you started first? I just started, didn't I? Straight away? 15. Was it, were you bullied or anything? Was there any trouble? No, I just thought I'd go to this gym one day because I was too fussy. I watched, I watched Kyle Wilson, a lad from Bayard's, was in the youth club one day, lad, when he was, like, 14, and he put this fight on. Diego Sanchez was clinging to me, and lad, it was heavy. Like, they're just having a right at our goal, each other, throwing up a cut from this close and then just swinging out of houses at each other. And I was like, this is sick, this is a belt of this. And, like, I started having a little watch of it. And the first one I stayed up and watched live was Belfo first, Franklin. Belfo knocked him out in the bar at a minute. And I went for a run at, like, six in the morning after. And then from then on, I was just like, I need to start going, I need to start going here. And then one of the lads was made to a J, his sister was with a lad called Joe, Joe Neal, he started a gym now, pulled the lab. He used to train on the next gen and fighting the next gen, so he recommended the win there. I went there on the 20th of January, 2000 and 10. And I was DJ the rest of his history. What was it like first time getting punched in that? I led the face night I was in, I got beat up by a woman. Was it Molly? Was it? No, it wasn't Molly, lad. It was, I think it was Millie, though. I don't know what you say. She was from Brazil, lad. And as I said, I was a small kid. So I got put with her in the sparring for the tie. And she f*****g batted me. Like, she put up a putter on me, she didn't give a f**k that it was my first session, she put it on me. I remember being stood by the, by the, the desk and there was a pillow next to it and there was three coaches stood behind her and she's went, she went to throw some on and done a spinning back fist and hit me right on the jaw. And three coaches went, ooh, no, like that meme. That's what it was like, lad. Sway and, like, it was funny. Just, I got beat up by a woman. Oh, she ended up coming back a month. It was like, when I was a bit better and I moved either. Can't put it on me like that, don't expect to get a put back on you. Did you have an actual ability for it straight away or was it something you could work on? For the grappling, yeah. For the grappling I did a natural ability. When like I jumped in the first class and nearly get a team, someone ran away and one of the lads who was coaching the class, Danny Sweeney, who was a pro at the time, he like pointed at f**king him and like pointing at him and touching someone and going like that. Like someone at his first session. But I was just a flexible kid and I had no quit at me. Like still haven't, but I was just a natal when it comes to jiu-jitsu and I still am because even when I was lighter, people would say when you're a son talking to me, I feel like you're about twice the size. Like that's what people still say to me and I probably say it even more now with my thakuns. That's mad though, like because you've had a great amateur career, was it 9-0? 9-0, yeah, 9-0. How was your first fight? I took around a week's notice. Yeah, one of the lads, Aaron, got injured a week out and I come in and done rounds and Paul said to me, do you want to take this fight next week? And he'd already beat one of the lads from the gym, Matty. So I was like, yeah, I was like, I'm sure, yeah, because the fellow was 24 and he'd already beat one of the lads from the gym, he was a bit bigger than me. And I was like, yeah, go ahead, Sanna. And I was just, I was sad. I wasn't nervous at all or nothing. I was just like, as soon as I won that one fighter, even though I had that first fight, I just knew it was what I was meant to do. And how old were you? 16. 16, I think I had the 24. Yeah. How was it training for martial arts and training for fights? Is there a lot of sacrifice that comes with that? Yeah, a lot of sacrifice. Like that's what a lot of people don't see. You don't see the behind the scenes, though. You only see the, oh, he's in the cage, he's fighting. You see your way in, looking ripped and that. You see your fight, you see your interviews and that. You think, oh, he's just being paid loads of dope with that. No, we haven't, we haven't, lads. We just go back to the gym now and like, as you can see, for the main balloon up in weight, and then after work, I weigh back down and get another fight to carry on paying the bills. So when did you turn pro after your name fight? Yeah, when I was 17. You turned pro at 17? Yeah. That's how young age, you know, you turned pro now. Yeah, yeah, and it's like, I don't think you can turn pro at 17 anymore. But there was just no one left me to fight. When there was an amateur up there, there was something called the cage, what are you just for? Just like, like Facebook and Instagram and that now. And I put a thing on their amateur forums now, and I think it was five and all. I am the best amateur bantamweight in the country who can dispute this. And lads, they had the most ever replies on an amateur forum. Like, even from a young age, I've been getting under people's skin, lads. And people just put their names in and I was just beating them all. So I went nine and all, all the names that had been put in the list, and like all the list on there, I beat them. Oh, they'd been beat by someone else who had already beat in the process. And I was going pro. The first fight was against some crab. Um, what was that? Like, chainie men in boxing had that bad. Like, they survived. Most chainie men in MMA are terrible. But this chicken was like, we call them chickens because you nearly choke someone out of a gym a few, like a few, a year before he fought me, son. Nearly chicken, someone out of a gym. So we call them chicken. His name's Nathan Thompson. And he was like, I don't know, he was like four and 21 and something when I fought him. But he fought all sorts of people that had like higher weights and stuff like that. And I just, I think I took him down elbow them. The first fight was a lot of elbows. You can't elbow two, you pro. I just took him down elbow them, man. He had a big keema tumble on his head. I was like, yeah, these elbows are sick. What's that feeling then? Because the people I've spoke to who have watched your fights in the past, like, they say you can take a punch. Do you enjoy getting hit? It's not that I enjoy it, it's just don't mind it. It's a fucked up feeling. Yeah, it's, it's not like I get milder in the gym, forward in the gym all the time, like me coaches, you know what I mean? Alison, Paul and Adam and Chris. There was that stop just happening. I get it with a punch and I'm like, he's won up on me then. And then like say, no, I'll just go, and I'll just step in and start throwing, you know what I mean? And I have me to get out of that habit really, because in the end it's got to go wrong because it always does. But for now it's not. So yeah, I enjoy it. Like I've watched, I've watched me fight back for the second time last night. And lad, I enjoyed watching it. So like obviously people enjoy watching it. So I'd rather have a fight like that online on top because I'm on three rounds. Because that's what I used to do when I was amateur. I was just mainly a wrestler, grappler, like 2G2. So I just used to take everyone down and sit on top of them and try and submit them. Is that getting boring for you now? So, so it can do like, well, when it comes up, when I'm coming up against someone who's just a flat-out striker, lad, he's getting put on his back. Goes it out to say, because I know I can, a lot of people in the division, I know for a fact I could take down, submit or take down and grab the hand out, but people like Vendor and me, and I do want to stand and test myself against people like that. Yeah, because you've had that great career before. You joined the UFC, like you've already sold out the Echo how many times twice? Yeah, twice. The first time I didn't prop a cellar out the second two times, yeah. Well, it's unbelievable. It was down town on one of your undercards. Was he not an amateur at one point? That was when I fought on Omak. That was like one of my first three pro fights. What was that? Yeah. Or might even be when I was main event as an amateur. Love Dan, man. Great guide, shout out to Dan Tau. So, when you won the Cage Warriors World title, how was that feeling for you? Well, that was something unbelievable. I mean, especially when I was in Liverpool. Like, like even in the bar, that was sick, lad. Winning the belt, the celebrations afterwards. Oh, that was me downfall at the time, you know what I mean? Like, so, looking back now, I'm glad I rapped all the time. Should have had me head more screwed on, but I didn't. Did you slap a bat? Yeah, I did. Buzzing, just fucking it. All the time, man. Drinking Friday, Saturday, Sunday, going to gym on, like, two hours, kid. Just hanging around with tools. Yeah. People that were just there. Using you? Yeah, you know what I mean? It's easy done, though. Yeah, it is. So, that's what I always say now. I'm glad that happened when I was younger. And then, obviously, like, I won the belt, but I won my next fight, so I just carried on like that. For another six months or five, months still afoot again. And then I lost. And then, obviously, I had to re-evaluate everything and put everything into perspective. That was when I come back and I won with the Flying Triangle. And I echo, and then... But it broke my hand. And another silly, Lee, again. I thought three months post-sadry. So, me and I are still a proper cabbage. And again, that's another thing that I look back and I inside now, though, because the amount of people telling me to pull out, me coach, me dad, me dad, my family, or my team mates, just pull out, lad, just pull out. I felt like I had a sense of... I had to do it because it was in the echo, because I was the main event. People had all bought tickets to come and watch me. You know what I mean? So, felt like I had to do it. Even though I was injured. And I was as close from winning. I don't want to be in with a re-enacted joke, even though I had one hand. Do you not have to cut 12 kilos or something, or 10 kilos? That was the one when I spewed up. Yeah, I didn't even know it was fucking nice or something. Of course, overnight, I've cut 8.4 kilo. That was when I fought the Rosa and I was sick in the cage. And against NAD, I'd done like 7.7 or 7.8 kilo. And then I'd done five rounds the next night. And with that, on the NAD, when I went to the union, they got a dexer scan because they got a dexer in the university, in Liverpool. And when I got one of them, and he said, like, I had... At first, I thought he said I had the testosterone over a 12-year-old boy. But then when I spoke to Paul Reed to the week, he was like, no, you had no testosterone when you've done that dexer scan. But I've done that in between, making ways and going through the weigh-in. So, my body was at its lowest it could possibly have been. And what was the other one? I was 0.2 kilo away from kidney failure. For fuck's sake, man. How was that feeling then, like, going through all that shit to get to weight for a fight, like? It was disgusting, lad. It's the worst. That's why now I am a lightweight. That was a featherweight. That was at the weight below. Even now, people still think I could make featherweights. But I don't want to do that to my body ever again, lad. Felt like I caught a few years off my life. Doing that? Yeah. How was it losing for the first time in the World Title? That one was horrible. The first time I lost, though, was when I was 18. Lost when I was 18, lad. As I always say, lad, someone put me in a choke, I go to sleep and I did. I got put fast asleep in a choke, I did in, like, a minute. And again, I have neither at the time. Because at that time, I'd won that in amateur. I'd won my first war, bro. I was just beating everyone. I was on a 13-fight win streak. And you just think no one could beat you, lad. And you're unbeatable. Lost that one, done the same again, went nine and all. But I was only 18 to 22. So I hadn't matured enough to realise the first lesson had been learned. I had to do it again after it went nine and all. I had to lose again. And how, is that when you re-evaluate everything? Is that when you start making the changes and some adjustments? Because you seem to learn fast, like, one in the World Title and then going off the rails, bringing it back in, having a defeat. That's where your growth is, that's where you learn the most. Yeah, it is. Everyone says you don't lose, you learn. Because every loss you come out with, like, I always say to the kids in the gym, I wish I would have lost an amateur. I wish I would have lost when I was an amateur. Because it doesn't matter. No one ever talks about your amateur record, lad. Did everything seem too easy? Yeah, an amateur, lad. I was just schooling everyone. I think one fight was a split decision. But, like, it shouldn't have even been. I won six by decision, I won three by sub. So, I was just beating everyone. And then my first four pro ones, I won the first three in the first round, the first half of the round. And then, one of four, was a decent kid from London, two fighters. Callum Florian, who was like a good wrestler. And he was about 30, or at late 20s at least, and I was like 18. And I beat him. And each bad people out of our gym and done better than the people in our gym who were like seven and all pro at the time. And I don't know what I can do, I just got to me at the booth. Because I was only a kid, I was only 18. It's mad though, because you think, when you're 18, you think you're a man. And when you're 21, you think you're a man. And even for me, when you're 23, you think you're a man. And you realise, only when you're 25, 26, that you do become a man. I'm 37, mate, I'm still yet to find that. OK, I don't know, I still don't get a fucking clue what's going on, bro. I genuinely know it. Everything I do, I just fucking wing it. I've got my affirmations and I've got my visions of where I want to take things in life and everything I do, I achieve. But I wake up some days and I think, I ain't got a fucking clue what's going on today. I'm like, I genuinely don't. I think that's what people can relate to you so much, because the zero fuck's giving attitude. What do you think it is with the Scousers? He's like a tribe living in a different universe. He's don't give a fuck about it. So I've got so much love for Scousers, but he's don't give a fuck. You look at all the fighters and stuff, there's something not right. I think there must be something in the water down here. Yeah, we're all tapped in the head, like. People, even to get in there and fight tapped in the head. But most Scousers are tapped in the head anyway. I always say we're our own breed, lads. We're our own type of people. Yeah, Scousers just are. Like, there's no one in England that's like a Scouser. The only point you can say is I like a Scouser, but I probably won't be back by myself as a Geordie. Yeah. I don't even mean, but still, they're not like us. These are a different breed. I always say Irish and Jokes are more like Scousers than anyone in England. The glass regions, the Geordies, the Scousers, kind of, I don't know what the fuck that is. Maybe they just put something in all their waters. This is all about fucking. Because the Scousers are flies. We've always had a great names for fighting. Yeah. But you seem to be now the golden boy. You seem to be that. Do you feel as if there's more pressure put on you or are you still enjoying it? I just take it in the straddle. I'm not an ass one bit. Because UFC came calling for you twice before, as I said, when I was 21. When I was 20 or when I was 23. Because KD Worries had just offered me a very big new deal. And the money they were offering to get paid in pounds, to not get taxed as much as you do straight away in America. You know what I mean? It was just a nobody, you know what I'd like. I helped pay stuff off what I needed paying, like me man has mortgage and helped me sister get some. And obviously now I've got my own house. Like that all come from fighting for KD Worries. Come off the wages off them. Yeah, so you owe a lot to them. Yeah, that's fair play, man. Let's thank them and offer good money. And it just goes to show how much the UFC actually offer people that it's the biggest fucking thing I'm getting. I'm getting less now for the UFC than I did for me. Some of the KD Worries fight. It's mad to think I have to have a pay cut for this fight. It's mad to think, but look at your social media. Yeah, that's what I mean. That's all exploded. I've got mad amount of sponsors getting on me manager now. Like, so in that terms, it's I'm going to gain 100% goes without saying. Yeah, it's a business to do like that. Have you got good people behind you to gauge you that way as well? Yeah, I have. I've got as I say, Graham, but you know what he's just looking after everything for me whenever anyone emails me now. I just thought since he messaged us, I just speak to Graham, speak to Graham and he saw everything, you know what I'm doing. He's the man. After your fight for UFC, the girl was saying, like, do you want to call out anybody? And you're like, I'm not calling out anybody. I want to call out fucking Instagram. The losers I want my account back in your account, ain't you? I had 130 now, you're having a million now, but it's unbelievable how things like that just people just like, this kid's a fucking crackpot. I had 157, 158,000 and I was dying to get that. I still want my stuff back off me, Instagram. I still want me pictures and videos, you rat. Oh, it's real, they're horrible, you know. Why did you do that? Bullying and harassment, because lad trolls give me shit. And you know, I can't help myself lad, I give it back. And then, because obviously my name's the one with like the lamb, like the bit, people report my comments. Why are you just being backwards? You know what I mean? Like I'm the one giving it back. Don't block me. You know what I mean? All the stuff I do on there was me for doing sharing charity links and going for my pages and stuff like that, speaking to people about stuff. And then they're lagging me because of bullying and harassment. Oh, lad, I swear to God. Have they ever kicked me? No, they haven't ever got back, but I've got a tick on my new account. So I think that's the way you're saying, yeah, you're not getting that account back. There's the tick, shut up. Yeah. Oh, fuck you. How was it then make me transition from cage warriors to UFC? Just the same. Just the same for me lad, yeah. It was like, everyone said that to me, but for me, I've always been doing like the media was a bit more, but I've always been doing loads of interviews. Like people have always been getting on me to do like little interviews over the phone, fight week and stuff like that and little FaceTime interviews. So I've been doing that for ages. Like that's not a new to me. Yeah. Like where they had to get, because I got there later as well. I had a proper schedule lad from like 9am on the Tuesday on the Wednesday morning to like 3pm, 4pm, I was just busy doing stuff all day. You know what I mean? Like interview with this podcast with him, pick me close up, sign the posters, go to the Apex and get all your pictures and all your videos and your little interviews and stuff like that. That's my door at like all the stuff that you need to do. Is that before a fight as well? Yeah, that's fight week lad, why are you cutting weight? I've not cut weight, but why are you, you're water load and stuff. Can that be a hindrance towards a fight? Where you think you can't be asked, but... Nah, with me lad, I keep you busy, so you're not just nitpicking the food. That's what I do lad, yeah. Like, luckily nothing, because I was late to Vegas, it was just me in my room. So there wasn't like no little bit to, because I'm a crazy lad. The sun's there and I'm just like, yeah. As you saw before when you walked in with that bag of food, like just like that, yeah, go out and laugh at them. Yeah, and I just try everything. So it was better like, because I was in my own room, I wasn't doing that as much. And I was going to other people's rooms, lad, I had them in my room and I had these, from Whole Foods, these like chocolate coated nuts, like they were heavy. I had a few of them lad, it was like, I need to stay away, just stay away from their room. What was your training like for? Your first fight in the UFC, was anything different or was it the same strategy? Yeah, just, we looked at the opponent and see what will work and what won't work against them, all the way in and we work. You work on yourself, mainly, all the way in, but then you work on little things as well, that could work against them. Is that more difficult though, with the limelight and the pressure, because you just boomed, like now you've already, you were already here, you were already a world-class fighter, but with the UFC, it just kind of gives you an extra bubble, like it gives you an extra elevation, more than it. Cage, what he's just got about 150,000 followers on Instagram, the UFC, he's got like 28.9 million, lad. Yeah. That's the difference. Like, on my original account, when I got, like, I think I was on like 80,000, when I got signed by the UFC, and then they put a picture up, because they don't even normally announce sign, and to be honest with you, people just get signed with the announced man. And like, my followers, like, when I was like, one 40 or something like that, one 50, just because the UFC posted that, my followers just went wild. Do you think that's why they can get away with shit wages, because the, the, the, I don't know, it's just all the way the sport's always been. Yeah. Sports always been like that, lad, and a few fighters need to stand up, it may not be like that, but I'm not going to be one of them fighters that need to do that, because I'm going to be getting paid. Yeah. You've been to the top of the tree now, man. Because obviously when you see... I think my Greg is going to stand up and do that, and be like, oh yeah, everyone needs better wages now, because you've got heavy wages, and I'll be getting heavy wages. So look after yourself. Because when you see Molly and that getting upset when she won't fight, then they can get an extra paper and that like, it's a class thing to see, but people use that, get in there and fucking risk it at home, man. Yeah, you're adding like, whenever it takes into account the show money and when money as well, if you lose your fight, you get half the money. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you get your show money, so like the contacts are like 10 and 10, 15, 15, 20 and 20, and like, if you get your show money, so just to fight, you get your 10, and then if you win, you get the other 10. If you don't win, you only get any original 10 left. And you've got to pay your manager, pay your coach. You don't have to come out with much that, let me tell you. It's just the buzz of fighting though. Yeah, I just love fighting me. I just enjoy fighting. Like my favourite thing to do in the gym is spa. Fucking crazy that button up. I just enjoy fighting love, I always have. So after you, when you won then, because the guys looked at the atlas and were speaking very high level, he's a legend. Yeah, absolutely, I've been seeing that from being like, wow, unbelievable. That was sick, that was sick. How was that podcast? That was sad, it was just like, as I say, down the Monday I got back from Cromwell, I had to go stick to London to do match of the day on the Tuesday. So as soon as I got to the hotel, I had to sit down and put my phone on and do that one. Nine o'clock at that time. How's your bottom that dealing with the... No, it's super stardom now, man. Yeah, it's like, I said to me today, you need to get used to it because this is just the start. Like, it's going to be 10 times worse than this. In the next few years, we're probably going to have four banters stood round us. So like, get used to it. Why do you think I was on a DM straight away, bro? We've only had to go through about six or seven different fucking managers, but I win. It's just been me and I was like, ah, he's fucking class. Can you hear me now? You're shooting, I'm thinking that. I don't know. That just come on, you know. They just put that on in the video. Like, that song, come on. And I just... When you win a fight, there's no feeling like it. Like, the only thing I can like... compare to it. And I've never had a child, so I don't know. It's watching your baby give birth and holding the kid. Because everyone says that's the best feeling in the world. Like, that's the only thing I can compare winning a fight to. What was your game plan going into your first fight? It's coming to knock his head off. It's the first round because you predicted that? Yeah, so I said the whole time, coming to beat him in the first round with me hands. And you never felt that punch from him? No. It's funny, it's saying to Adam after it, saying to Adam after him, it's, that's why people are going on about this punch in everyone's ass, did I? And he was like, no, I was like, what the fuck are you all going on about then? But lad, when I've watched it back, it's the noise out of it. Because the noise of the punch, it makes it sound even worse. But that's another thing I've just made him will, lad. He hit me with one of his best shots and I just stood there. Like, I know why I done that as well. Like, I throw a certain type of punch and I roll in between and in that one I didn't roll. So I know why I got... If I would have rolled him through the punch I was gonna throw, would have knocked him out. But I never, I never rolled and I got caught with that lift up because of... How was it fighting without any fans? Well, I fought twice without fans, to be honest, I'm free now. In my last three fights without fans, with face round finishes. But at the last one, there was like 100 fans at the Apex. But me too before that, in the last two K's, there was ones I haven't had anyone there. I'm surprised there were four scouts at night. One in the card. Yeah, if you'd include last but not as a scout, I like. Why was it not...? It was meant to be you, innit? Yeah. Yeah, it was meant to be you. What was it? Yeah, it was meant to be you, but I couldn't... You just couldn't get it all sorted in time, I don't think. So I ended up getting moved to Vegas. That's a pain in the arse though, innit? Try to get dates and there's so much... Yeah, there was all that. Like, it was even bad if a meal had, it was just all stress. Like, the fact that I got moved there, because then that was less time to get your visa sorted. It was just all a proper big day. That's why I got there, like, that was stress. Because people love you for your honesty and you know who's bad and you just say it how it is, because guys like Jake Paul and stuff, you call it my sausage and then he's replying that... He's just a tool, lad. I don't even like talking about that, I'm an idiot, lad, you know. Do you know what I mean, lad? What about... What's the story with Conor McGregor? Was he at your house one day? That's, lad, that was what the story was meant to be, like, but, like, at the time... At the time, I was out all the time, myself. I'd just lost a few weeks before, actually. And I was still just in a mad place, just wanting to go out and get absolutely slosh out of it and think about it. And he was meant to be outside, lad, but I got my maths check, the cameras, because obviously, if McGregor's at your door, you're videoing and banging it all over the internet and getting pure views. And he wasn't. He must have been at someone else's, he was with someone who was in the city at the time. And I remember that lad bumping into me and going, lad, we had the big fella at your door. I was like, lad, you never. And he's like, no, we did, we did. I was like, lad, you never, I promise you, because my maths got cameras. Oh, no, we did, we did. I was like, lad, you were at the wrong door. You know what I mean? I'm gutted. I wish I was in. I wish I was there, and, like, you were at mine. I would have been like, what is happening? What's going on? What was that? You're doing well. I don't know, it was either the straightener. Like, the lad who I've seen in Glastos had to tell me it was for the straightener. But then other people who know my mates have said you spoke to people who were in the party and he wanted me to go partying with them. So I don't know, lad. Have you not spoke to him? No, like, the first ever contact we had was that sweet, and he'd tweeted me, you know what I mean? Apart from that, the only other time I spoke to him was in cage, what he is, before he ever had his first UFC fight. Yeah, he's an absolute legend in the game. He kind of took UFC to another level. Yeah, he has, he changed the game, lad. He doesn't get enough respect for it, because he changed the game. Jerry said the word. Yeah, it is, lad. People go on about Adam now, he literally changed the face of the sport, so you've got to give him the respect for that. Yeah, so he's opening doors for guys like yourself to come through and you've seen the marketing tools and strategies that he'd done, like he was a double champ, man, like he'd done that first out of anybody wanting to do that, and that in the UFC is fucking... One, one belt's fucking hard, never means to one, two. Yeah, it is. Obviously they're in the global stardom when they fight in Mayweather for 100 million. Anybody would fucking do that, and it's the hatred and the jealousy they're in. Yeah, it is. But I think he thrives on that, like I say, man, he's a legend in that sport, and everything he's achieved is fucking second to none. That's why the hatred and people who's been doing it for 20 years and can't get nowhere near his level. That's why one of the... Well, lad, I've just completely forgot what I was going to say there, literally. Because he was making that much money, the jealousy with him. Could you fight him? Could you fight Conor McGregor? Yeah, he's my weight. He's my weight. He's 155. Could possibly have him. That's a mega money for him. I've been asked before, who's the one fight? Who's the one to fight? And you're always saying him, because of the money involved. It's going to be a pay-per-view. You're going to get part of the pay-per-view. You're going to want to fight McGregor? Well, as I've said, that's me the next few years, lad. Yeah. Everyone's going to want to fight me, because I'm the one getting them pay-per-view numbers in. And that's what's going to happen. You never know, we could eventually end up fighting to be the biggest pay-per-view of all time. That'd be a class, man. Well, lad, I mean, could do that on Amfield, lad. That'd be a class. Because he's always wanted to croak back, aren't he so? Yeah. That could be his sign now. His last fight. He's still got another few years in him, do you know what I mean? Yeah, he has everyone saying he's finished, lad, he's not. Now, if anybody can bounce back, I believe he can. He's got a mental strategy. But again, when you're making so much fucking money, how can you have the same fire? That's it, lad, when you've got that much dough, how can you have the same, like, as you say, fire that's under your ass as you did when you didn't have that money? Yeah. It's not the same. It's just not. Your division seems to be the strongest, man. Yeah, I think it's the... A lot of heavy hitters, like... It's the shot, thank you to UFC 155. That's why I did think about going back down to 45, because it's a lot, much of a quicker route to the belt. Time I get done on it as well, you know what I mean? 45, it's a lot, it's an easier route to the belt, but you can't be ass-killing yourself, lad, to make it. So I'll just fight killers at 155. What do you think, like, Khabib says he's retired, but do you think you could be the kind of guy that he would come back and fight? I don't know, lad, if it got under his skin enough, you never know. But nah, he's not fighting again until... Sort of, like, eight times stuff like this, but his mum passes away, because he promised his mum, didn't he? He promised his mum that he won't fight. So he's not fighting again until she allows him to fight. What happens, you know what I mean? I just don't think he's fighting, because he's made a promise to his mum, lad, so... Yeah, same loyal that way, yeah. Would anyone ever get you to stop fighting? Erm... Probably not. LAUGHTER No. Probably not, me, man. Always says I'm ready to be a bricklayer. I hate this, I hate this for people asking me, I'm not ready to be a bricklayer, but... I know this is what I was promised to do, lad. Fight, but not just fight, entertain people. How is it for family members and friends to watch you, though, fighting in a cage? Do they get used to it, or do they still get scared, My mum doesn't watch any fights. My mum comes to one fight and I lost. She'll never come again. She come when I got beaten, lad. Erm... Do you blame her for that? No. You could, if I wanted to. I wanted to be an ass all the time. That's good, but... My dad and my uncle both come to every fight that they can come to, but then, when I actually fight, they go and stand at the back, only. And me, I'm just acting all mad, because they don't want to watch. Erm... My sister-in-law does that. My sister-in-law, like... Come on, like that. But... It's annoying when my bed gets pissed, like, when my bed gets pissed, I can just say, come on, Paddy! I was like, ah, don't shut up. You're making a show of us, girl. Turn it in. It's not turning out, don't get drunk before a fight. Cos it must be tough, like, that's a fucking ruthless sport, like, you can die, man, like, it's like... Yeah, you can't laugh. Do you feel like I did pressure on more family and friends out there? Erm, do you feel the most pressure in, like, the echo, like, you know what I mean, cos it's all... It's all your own fans, like... That's why I always say, I've always said, my UFC debut, or no matter where it is, I won't be that nervous, because... Unless it's in Liverpool, in front of my own fans, again. And I've lost there, lad. So there's no way of feeling the world than losing in that echo, you know, when it's full. And I've done that twice. You know what I mean? So... Fighting in front of fans and family, it's just something I've always done. You make to always come to me fights, like, me missus does, me dad and that do. Me dad's been coming to grappling comps since 2010. So... It's just part and parcel of it, really. I don't really get nervous fighting anymore. Obviously, when you're standing in the cage at the last second, you think to yourself, I can't handle the madness, you know, I won't start having it with this fella. Well, that's just what you do. You just... Like, when I get in there, I try and blank everything else out. The only voices I wanna hear are my corners' voices. Your man, dad, must be so proud, though, that for what you've achieved, to being only 26 and everything you've already achieved, like, they must be fucking buzzing, mate. They must be walking around this city with a T-shirt on in your face and all that. They must be. Because I'm fucking proud of you now, lad. I've only just met you today, like, because everything you've achieved, man, it's such a good feeling. And that goes for any kid that's watching or anybody watching that things can be achieved if you truly believe it. Like, you genuinely believe that everything you're going to do is going to come into existence. That's how I say to all kids now, I'm like, lad, if you wanna do something, just do it. Believe in yourself. And that's all that matters. Believe in yourself that you can do it. So that's all I do. And I wasn't the hardest in my school, I wasn't the hardest in my year. I mean, I was a little kid. I just started doing something and put my heart, my soul into it, lad. And I'm where I am now. So that's what I always try and get across to the younger kids, because a lot of them get stuck on the wrong path. I could have easily done that. So it's not hard to do in this city. But you've just got to find something that you're good at. Not even what you're good at, find something you enjoy. But you get good at something if you enjoy it. You wanna do it. So you carry on doing it and you get good at it. Yeah. Has anybody called you out yet? Ah, lad, all sorts. I'm only going to say any of their names and bums. Are they all calling you out now? Yeah, lad. Loads of them. There's some yank. There's one of your fellow jocks. Who is that? There's a few, lad. There's a few on instead. There's one on instead, one on Twitter and there's some somewhere else. I'm calling you out. Yeah, but I... There's a Sean O'Malley as well, but you're fucking two different above him. I mentioned something about him in an interview in March. No, was it March? Sorry. April or May, anyway. I said something about him in April or May. And now, all the media outlets are going back to this thing, you know, in, like, from months ago and putting it out as if I've said it now when I haven't said it months ago, yeah? And they're mixing up little things that I've said in it. You know what I mean? I'm putting them together. And I said something like, ah, he's a little potted. And then, like, put said something else and he's mixed, like, sort of, he's a bitch ass potted, he said, I said. When I called him a potted in a different line laughing about it. And I said, oh, he's a bitch ass over his ankle. He put two different lines together, lad. He's a bitch ass potted. I said, lad, I never said that. Why are you misquoting me? And he put the article in and I was like, yeah, exactly. Read it. They're in two different paragraphs. Ah, lad, they're horrible. I actually seen him speaking about you, but I actually spoke quite highly of you. Yeah, no, what I said, I said something about him, like, something about he's a striker. But I thought he doesn't really like grappling, but I've seen a few videos of him lately grappling, lad. So it's a bit like me. A lot of people said I was just a grappler and I couldn't strike. I've probably done the same narrative with him. And thought, oh, yeah, he's just a striker, he can't grapple. Well, he obviously can grapple. But if he wants to fight me, I don't fight him, especially because of how much smaller he is. But as I say, we're on different paths, lad. He's a 135er and I'm a 155er. There's £20 in between us, to be honest. The UFC will not want to put us together because the other one is keep us going on a opposite trajectory on our own, you know what I mean? It's not a business for them, they're not stupid. They're going to want to keep us apart. They'll probably end up having us as a guest on a fucking show together or something. They're very good with the business. Yeah, they'll have us making mates, lad, in the next few months, lad. Where do you go? Who's the next fight, then, for you? Who's on your sights? Anyone, lad. I don't care. Literally, I'm not asked. Whoever's name is on the contract, I'm going to sign it. It doesn't really matter to me. Who's your ultimate goal? Who do you have love to fight? Any way, any division? I don't even care. Nah, I don't even look. I can't do anything when people say that anyway, then, lad. I'm like, I can't really think about it. I don't know what I mean anyway, because I always look at people from the weight divisions. But as people always say, he was like a hero or like the person that you're liking MMA in. My one's big nog, big niggera. He was like, he could take a proper beating. And nine times out of ten, he caught you in the submission or beat you on the feet, you know what I mean? He'd always, even as I'd smashed in, lad, for 15 minutes, he'd always have a chance of catching you in the sun. That's what I pride myself on, where I'm like, I can't know if it's a fact. You can keep beating me up, you can keep beating me up, but I won't tap, I won't quit. You'll have to snap something or put me asleep. Yeah. See, when you said you were on the booze and stuff and you're all kind of slipping, when you reined it back in, did you do a lot of sacrifices from friends? Yeah, a lot of, I just got back to me roots, I haven't got back to me original, me good mates, lad, who've been there since day one, you know what I mean? Got back to them, where I'd obviously, I'd had a few clings on around the time, Klingons around the time, and I just ended up liking all them and stopping speaking to them and getting away from them. And obviously, some people who had started speaking to them that time, I still speak to, but a lot of them I don't. And I just dig to meet my little tightness of all the lads from byars. People have, I went to primary school with them, senior school with them, stuff like that, you know what I mean? Seem you start becoming more successful than other people though, it's the jealousy and the hate it comes out of your throat, any of that shit yet? Some stupid comments and stuff like that. But I've had, as you say, I've had that for years. Have you? I've had that for years, lad, in this city. Don't know, some people are just jealous little rodents, lad. Like, you just get on with it. Like, I've had the gang of, well, I say gang of divvies, but mainly one divvy, stupid conspiracy theorist, make a conspiracy theory video about me, you know what I mean? And trying to manage my name, because he knew how big I was gonna be coming, he hates me, and it didn't work. And I'm where I am now, and he's still stuck in his little shit hole. So I just laugh about it. That's all you can do, man, like, every time you rave a lot, there comes new waves of hate. There comes new fucking, like, there's, that's fuck all to what's going to come, because actually... Yeah, there is, that, this is just a start. I know by the end of the year, I'll have a million followers. I think you'll have that per end of the month, next month. Fuck, I hope so, lad, to even mop my money. Hey! Get that money in, lad, and he's to pay me mortgage, or shit, I'm wishing it moving. You'll have the key, I'll ever pull the end of the fucking next year. Fuck, I hope so, lad. The only fills bar, mate. They'll give you the key, mate. The boys will give you the money, bro. I know what you were saying before, I need up on that wall, real soon, lad. I know, mate, I can't believe you've not had money, I can't. Man, ask you about the fucking wall, it's real, mate. Bad Tony, man, that picture of Tony's next to the cathedral. But, yeah, career is, like, I say, this is only the beginning, I feel for you, from everything you have. But the people not seeing the groundwork that you've done over the last 10, 12 years to get to, well, yeah, people only see the... Yeah, people only see this now, and even Karl, he's just jumped on the scene, he's only just had that being done with this for nearly 12 years, lad, I haven't just jumped on, believe me. I've been doing this for 12 years in January, lad, so I've been putting away him for years and years. That's what's one good thing about the last few years, though, in, like, December 2018, it was just after I'd lost to Bach, and I was just getting back in the gym, someone started coming around, following me, filming, and, so, December 2018, he's still doing that now, coming around, filming me, and, lad, when that ends up coming out, that's gonna be an unbelievable little documentary, that was, like, that is from, like, the lowest of the low, where I was when Bach beat me to the highest of highs, lad, winning my UFC debut. That's what it goes does, though. Those videos, we were fortunate, the fucking 5, 10 years ago. Fuck, lad, that'll be, like, a 10-part on the fucking Netflix, like, the last dance. So, that'll be... People love going back and looking at the old stuff. Had these gone over 30 hours of footage now, lad, that's a 10-part on the Netflix. Money! It's fucking unbelievable, but, like, it's a great feeling to see people succeed, people, when they're doing well, like to see other people do well, like, it's the hatred, you seem to thrive on that, though, you seem to thrive on the little dance. That's what I was meant to say before, you just brought it back, Belty. Like, I'm like, though, do you see McGregor, he thrives on, I do, I thrive on that. I always say, one of the things I enjoy doing is proving me the people who believed in me right, but just as much, I like proving the doubt is wrong. I mean, I like saying, I told you so, but it's sort of, I like doing, I like saying to people that are saying, oh, you'll never do this, you'll never do that. What, now, I told you so, didn't I? I told you I was going to, and what did I do? That's the best feeling. Like, I can get thousands of comments and they'll all be positive and I'll get one asshole who... And that's what sticks out. My tanner, my teeth, man, I'll find something. That's what sticks out, though. And then I'll lie in my bed all night, thinking, oh, fucking, that bastard. Like, that's what... My manager's always said to me, and indeed, he's always said, you need to become a black belt on social media. And I think I'm starting to do that over the past couple of months. Because at the start of this year, like, if you would have said, I'm starting this year, three months ago, if you would have said three, four months ago, if you would have said something to me on Instagram, and I'd comment back and I couldn't help it. I thought, if I'm letting them say that to me, they're winning. Oh, when I look at it now, if I say something back, they're winning. Because I'm taking time out of my day to say something to them, and then going to them, I told them, oh, look, bloody shit, something back. So now, that's just blank all the negative ones. You know what I mean? After when you put your phone on after five minutes, like, you forgot about it, because you're doing something else. Yeah, yeah, you're just feeding out their energy. Yeah, you don't need that negativity. Yeah. For any kid watching this, maybe going through a bit of trolling and bullying or kind of online abuse, what advice would you have for them? Don't respond. Yeah, that's the best thing to do. Don't respond. Because the more you respond, the more they're feeding off that energy. Just blank it out. I always used to say, oh, they've one of it, block them. But just block them. Yeah, yeah. But I think you've had the probably the biggest debut in UFC fucking history, the way you've come in, the way you've totally released that, and you've totally utilised it to your advantage. That's funny, lad, because I can remember about four weeks before I fought the sun. I was watching top 10 UFC debuts on the YouTube, and I videoed it on me into the story, and I was like, top 10 UFC debuts. I'm going to be on this list in the next few weeks. Watch. I knew it was coming, lad. I just knew, you know what I mean? Like, I've always said it. One fight, one interview, and I'll be everywhere. And it's happened. Those fucking memes, mate. Every time I go on social media, it's just your face, mate. It's fucking nuts. The best one, the best one is to do the roar. Do the roar. Everyone's saying I look like the kid, I should have. That's the best one, lad. Someone's put, like, two photos together, and it's Paddy after his fight. And it's a picture of me, because when I'm in the back, where you're all Vaseline on your face, I've just done that to get me here on my face. And people are saying I look like Prince Charmin. So it was, like, Prince Charmin, I should have. It was, like, Paddy just after his fight, Paddy a week after his fight, because me cheeks are like that, it's like to do the roar, kid. That's for sure, lad. But those videos are the ones that boost you. Yeah, they're making you money. Pure people, like, have been called the one off Benchworm, as you eat your own sunkeny. One quote I had of being called Napoleon Dynamite, which is a bad one. Owen Hart, Owen Wilson. The 5th Beatles, I cracker. Yeah, the 5th Beatles are a good one, though. I'd say I think, Owen Hart are good ones, to be honest. I think, obviously, Jay off the in-between, I've had that one for about nine years. Well, there was a few others, what, people, he, man. LAUGHTER You know what I mean? All the ones like that, a lot of people were putting in. And then people, I shared one of them myself, didn't I? And then people were commenting, oh, you missed this, you missed that, you missed that. You know what I mean? But I must look like major people, me. People are bastards as well, though, but it's because you've got that nature where you laugh it off as well, people think it's... But again, it's just that all that shit of people mentioning your name, everything that you're doing, it's just pure business, it's just pure promotion to keep building your profile that you'll be sitting here and everything will be going rising, because people are going, how the fuck is this? You've made global headlines because of the way you are, the way you talk, maybe you just... I'm like, that's just me. Yeah. I hate people who put personas in that, aren't I? I hate Colby Covington, lad. Don't know if you know him or not, lad, I hate him, lad. I hope you get to buy a bus. And he's just proper annoying. I've been told he's got a ghostwriter and all that, lad. Doesn't even come up with all his own stuff he comes out with. Like, it's all an act, innit? It's all an act. Everything he does, behind the cameras, he's not like that. When there's no cameras there, he's not like that. And that just infuriates me, lad, because he's just fake. If you may have a lot of people out in industry. There is, there's a few, yeah, but... He's meant to be the way it's going, I don't know. But yeah, there's a few people like that. They were like, be act different in front of cameras. And that just rubs me up the wrong way, lad. People who do that are bad, bad helmets. Yeah, well, there's two faces, then, aren't there? Yeah, like, you have to be yourself. And that's why I am... That's why people like me, because I'm just authentic, lad. What you see is what you get. I can't help myself. Let's talk about your tune, your song, your walk-in song, man. It's fucking banging. I heard you mix that yourself. Yeah, well, I asked the DJ to put them two songs together, a chant on it for me. Because the lethal industry, the first song, it doesn't... It doesn't really drop good, you know what I mean? It's just like goes into the same beat. But where's your head at as a heavy drop? So I was just like, yeah, that tune into that one. And lad, it's just the heaviest beat ever. So seeing you get there and you're singing and dancing like... If somebody doesn't know you and you think, man, he's just a friendly, big guy. How do you change that fucking mentality to go from being a singer and dancing to the killer mentality? With me, it's just... As soon as my tune goes off, lad, and I can hear the announcement, I have just a zone in on my opponent. Nine times out of ten, I'll just stand there looking at my opponent. I won't take my eyes off him. I won't turn my hands off to me, go on and have a drink. Not unlike that. I'll just stand there staring at him for the whole time. I won't take my eyes off my opponent. That's what gets me in the zone. And as I say, as soon as you take a punch or anything like that, or you throw up a punch and land a good punch, I go into like... Not autopilot, but I just zone in on him. Like, I get vicious where I'm not like that. But I do. I think like I'm gonna hate you now. That's what goes through my head. I'm gonna fucking snap your chin now. I'm starting to get scared, mate. I was starting to get worried, I was thinking, is that me? I'm sorry. So, you're re-breaking Cornwall, was that good? Or were you just kind of on your phone all the time? Cos everything was pausing then. I'm always on my phone, I'm a bad lord, I always mowls at me for that. And I just zone, and I just zone. But it was just more active then. Cos we went in May, and I got like four or five photos, and we went this time, and I got like 60, 70, 80 photos, lad. We were there for a bit longer this time, but I went into a pub one night to show the fish in. And last time, we were going there every day, cos it was local to where we was. And this time, we only went in there twice. But we went in there the first time, we got a few pictures and so on. And then on the Friday night, like, cos obviously everyone was in there, I must have had about 80 photos. It was just mad, I was just sad. Didn't expect this in Cornwall, like maybe in Liverpool. Cos that's been happening in Liverpool for years, lad. Always being getting pictures in Liverpool and stuff like that, especially with younger people and my kids and that. But now, lad, it's a completely different demographic. Do you think you ever get tired of that? I think everyone ends up getting tired of it, but... If I went up to someone who I was looked up to when I was a kid and said, can I have a picture? And he said, no, I'd be so disappointed in them. So I'll never say no to anyone. The only time I get to know you is when you're sitting there eating food. So I'm done at in Cornwall, I was stood on the pier, eating a bubble waffle, with two bits of ice cream in and pure chocolate, lad. Chocolate dripping down my hands, dripping down my chin. And this woman who's in my 60 comes over and goes, can I have a picture? Come on, love it, you for real. Like, there's chocolate all down my chin. I swear, lad, I thought my beard was looking like that. Prophet's snarling. For me, that's the only time I get to know you when I'm busy doing something or I'm eating food, lad. I think he's only going to get worse for you, bro. Yeah, it is only going to get worse. I can't see myself in the future doing a McGregor where he just takes someone's phone and bounces it off the floor. Because that's just, if you're on your own, you're on the slide, or just wearing your face is annoying, lad. Like, that's the next level, don't be doing that. Because you're still fighters at the end of the day, you're still not going to take any shit, lad. At the end of the day, we're still normal people, lad. You don't want someone, like, think me better than the other guys who were doing it in the Nandos. Last time, we were getting a picture of two kids on the way out, and one of the staff in the Nandos was taking a picture of me while I wasn't looking, and me better snarled the life out of it. Like, that's annoying when people are videoing and taking pictures of you when you're not looking. Yeah, it's a sneaky shot. It's when you're in it, maybe in the fucking nest of doing a shit and somebody pops their head over the cubicle. Ah, lad. It's like that Eminem song, you know, lad. He says, can't go in the bog without you smelling me shit. Massive Liverpool fan, bro. Yeah. You're in your blood, you're... The mighty Reds, lad. So how's that experience going to Anfield and shit, then, now, like, what's everybody fucking all over you? Well, lad, yeah, the other day when I went to Anfield, luckily enough, the last two times when I went to Anfield, I've got half a season ticket this year, in the centre, you know, me. Well, the Kenny Douglas stand, it's called, normally. Well, I've got half a season ticket there, but the last two games, lad, one of the mates got me in is, like, in the lounge with him, and then one of my sponsors got me in the other day. So, I've been going to the ground, I haven't had half before kickoff, being getting there, like, an hour and a half, and, lad, I've still been getting pitches. Didn't have an half before. I don't know what it's cos, lad, when I go, I get in, like, 10 minutes before kickoff, if that's five minutes before kickoff, and you'll never walk alone, it's going off. And I can't think of what it's going to be like when I go at that time again, but it's going to be the city game, you know. So, like, when I go to the city game, lad, it's going to be hard work. Do you see yourself walking out there in the world title for a year or two? Yeah, I do, lad. But, lad, I'll be honest, I reckon, I'd rather get in the USC to Hanfield and fight in Hanfield than win a world title. Actually, it's never been a fight in Hanfield, has it? I think, Callum Smith tried to get a... Yeah, he started to get it wrong, but it's just never happened. Why is that? I don't know, obviously, with the season, lad, it'd have to be in May. I mean, it'd have to be the proper back in the mail, June or early July. Like, he wouldn't do it any other time here because of the fuzzy. You've had a few Scotsman play-follower pool, Ken Kenney, soon as... Robertson, who's your best? I don't have to say Dag Leesha, aren't we, lad? Yeah, he's a legend, isn't he? Yeah, Dag Leesha's the man, lad. But then obviously, my dad goes on about soon as... Well, Robo's the man for me, lad. Robo's one of my favourites in the team, lad. He's everywhere. You've got the main man there as well, or when we're talking, what do you do, Shanks? What a fucking guy. What a fucking legend, man. What a guy. Yeah. So you buzz in for it, then? The future, I'd have to put it all planned, lad. Yeah, if I had to put it all on me and say, yeah, there's a few free tickets there, but there's no door hinges, lad. No, like, never, ever. Molly's been given all sorts of heaven. Only me. No wonder that gets called a people's club. Your relationship with Molly seems tight as fuck. Let's shout out to Molly, man, I love her. Yeah, Mark, Molly's boss, lad. Molly's my big sister, lad. She's wanting a baby and shit, lad. I kind of put the scouts as just crazy alcoholics, man, after that fake night, lad. Every time she goes out now, everyone's just like, do you want a baby? People just don't stop buying a baby, now, lad. How is that? Relationship was just trained for years, wasn't it? Yeah, we've trained together since 2011 or so. You know what I mean? She's been living for almost some stuff like that, but she's always come back. Since she's come back the last time, we've just got better and better and up, up, up, up. In the next two years, lad, our gym's gone off about six or seven people in the UFC. 100%. I just, like, I'm going to... We're going to cage where he's next week. One of the lads, Nathan, is that we're going to win a world title, lad. It's going to be great. Another world title. We're going to go back to the gym and there's six lads fighting, and I'm expecting six wins. Just like the other night. We have four wins. How does that make you feel now that people are looking up to you from the start? It's a bit mad from the start because I was the smallest kid in there who was just part of the fight team, half looking up to everyone else, and now I'm half like the captain. And it's, it is mad. As I say, that's the good thing about growing up. I've had to grow up. I've had to grow up a lot over the past two years, never mind the past eight years. Where do you get that belief in your family? Do you get any other fighters in your family? Where does it come from? No. My uncle was meant to be a very, very hard fella. He was never a street fighter. He was mighty. He beat multiple people at once. Brian wasn't like, never had boxing on. People say my granddad's a tough fella, but obviously he's like 85 now. Never loved a big granddad like that. And my uncle was a footy player, my uncle Frank was very good as well. My dad's older brother. So over the years, my dad always said to me, don't throw it all away like him. Don't throw it all away like him. Because that's what he'd do. He loved the baby. Loved beds. He played to the Aston Villa first team, and he was like 16, 17. And then just started acting the golden. Finishing his career in Australia, lad. Become a legend for the shag team over there, because obviously the team's a shagged. Really could have been a legend over here. Do you think that's where it plays in your mind? Yeah, it does, I always say. Do you think that's where somebody's ingrained that in your mind then? Wasted talent is one of the worst things ever. Yeah. Especially when someone's got the talent to do something. And they just throw it all away. That's like one of the biggest wastes ever. So I just, I'm never going to be that fella sitting in the boozer. Going, I could have been this, could have been that. Fuck that. Fuck being that fella. Yeah, did you ever, was there ever a time you ever felt like, Quentin, I know a lot of feats, you have your ups and downs, like you probably have more downs and ups, but is there any time you ever felt this is not for me feating? I never ever thought this is not for me. The only time I thought that was when like the wages were bad, and I didn't think I was, I could earn enough money, for watching me maintain money or the ways, thinking I could be doing that. Why am I in the gym all day every day? Did people seem used to tell people your vision, because you're not shy about holding things back? Oh no, I've told. Did people used to laugh and screw yours? Yeah, people always used to laugh at me. I was used to say, I'm glad you're laughing, because if you're not laughing at me dreams, they're not big enough, that simple. Yeah, because you got, that's why Conor McGregor again, we'll go back to him. He was on benefits, man. Fucking driving about in the car, it's basically not running on no fuel. I've never claimed benefits, and I've always rolled up bike, so I'm even wasting it. Wait, have you got a driving licence? No. What would be the first car you would buy? I don't know, I'd have one that was good on the petty, lad, to save me dough. Going forward for the future, brother. What's your plans? Takeover, like, literally, my face is going to be everywhere, lad, so I need to lose some weight again, because at the minute these cheeks are just too big, and I'm sitting here smiling at you now, I can just feel my cheeks are like that. I might as well put up a hamster, but yeah, lad, my face is going to be everywhere real soon, and I'm going to have another fight, hopefully in the one before the end of the year, knock someone else out, or submit someone else, and then, and over a fact, I'll be on over a million followers by the end of the year then, another fight, another interview, yeah. They'll probably want to offer me a new contact right away, to be honest, and that's when all the other doors open up, lad, more money, more sponsors. Life's going to be good, lad. Yeah. Life's going to be good. So are they good, brother? Yeah. The sign is like a free match. Yeah, you sign for a fight deal, lad, so obviously I've only had one. They've got you at a fucking bargain then, you bastard! So they're going to have to get me to have two more fights, if they won't want it to run out, so they'll have two more fights probably, and then they'll offer me a new contact. Obviously the UFC's the biggest, but can somebody picture that come on after you and offer you and take you away from the UFC? I wouldn't even do that. Like Bellasos, shit, lad. Bellasos is a load of shit. UFC's where you want to be. The only other place I'd fight, would probably be one. They offer big money like, the UFC. That's where they fight now. I'd like to fight them rules. I like them rules, where you can throw knees on the ground. But the UFC's the place to be, lad, especially in the £155 division. Yes, I taste the division. The UFC's the place to be. Do you think you'll get fast track till World Title? No. I think they'll do the opposite. I think they know what they've done with Till. Yeah. They're just still along. And it's hindered them. Look what they're doing with O'Malley. Slowly. He's fighting different people, different people. And now I think he's fighting. I've seen it, yes, he's fighting that Brian Kelheller or something. He's like, I think he might have a ranking. But he's just getting built up. I think that's what they're going to do with me. Yeah, so you don't think you'll get a top 10? No, but I'm not fighting a top 10 on the money. I'm on, lad. So that suits you as well. So you've got that business strategy to the end? Yeah, I'm not fighting like I say. Nick Peaton, that was saying he'd like to see me against Tony Ferguson. And lad, I'd like to see me against Tony Ferguson. But not on the contract, I'm on now. Fuck that. I've paid that money to fight Tony Ferguson, lad. Yeah, he's still a killer, man. Yeah, he's still one of the best 155s in the world. I want fucking six figures, lad. I'm fighting him. Fuck that mate, he's starting getting subbed now. Fuck the wall, man. He's a mow those bastards, mate. But again, brother, like, buzzing for you to come on today and tell your story, like, a lot of people get inspiration. You're hot property, man. This is only the beginning of your journey for where you're going to achieve, mate. The fight and the future, you're going to win the belt. I see it all for you as well. People say the word destiny. I've seen my destiny. I know what's coming, you know what I mean? Even when I've been low, I've always believed it. There's only been a few times where I've had thoughts, like, in MMA and that's where I've seen in my own future, me lifting the belt, me winning it on the field. I know what's all coming, lad. I know for a fact it is. Yeah, that's class, man. Guys, like, because I love, like, Nate Diaz in it. I know he's not got the best of records, but it's his mentality as well, that people love to pay to watch him fight, man. Yeah, there it is. Even though he's talking more losses than anybody. MMA, lad, records don't mean as much, especially, like, don't win it as much as boxing. Like, records just don't mean as much, lad. Is that what it is? Diaz has been fighting the best in the world consistently for, like, 10 years. So, some of them losses, most of them losses are getting high-level guys. Can't really mourn about it. People go on about his record, but all those losses are good fighters. I have them as split decisions. Yeah, Diaz, man, he can't even put that past the down man. He's fucking take some of it. Yeah, he can't take some punches, Diaz left. To the head, man, it's unbelievable. The punishment that you guys take, it's not just getting fat and trying to cut weight. It's the mental battle as well, that these have to fucking go through. That's what I've always been good with, like the mental side. I've always believed in myself, even since I started doing it. I've always believed in what I could be and what I could achieve. And I've always done it since I was younger. My mental side has got me through a go-few fight and a go-few weight cuts and a go-few fight camps. How do you stay humble then? How do you stay fit in the floor now that everything's kind of exploded? I'm just me, lad. Just be you, just fuck everything else. Yeah, I'm just me, lad. I have to let it go to me a bit when I was 21 and when that belt started doing that shit. And it never happened again, lad. Even when I'm hanging millions and hundreds of millions of pounds, lad. I'm just, as I always say, I'm just me, lad. But I am. I'm just me. That's why you're loved. And I know the money won't get to me yet because I'm half a type of myself, lad. I walk a shop around the corner to get a can for 80p instead of a pan of me. That's the best way to roll me a lot of money's precious, isn't it? Yeah, it is, lad. I can't wait till the money's no object, though, and I know I'm going to get to that point when money is just an object. The thing I like about yourself, Paddy, as well, is that you share a lot of charities, you share a lot of people trying to get help and that's the best thing because that's the key to life as well is trying to help other people. That's what we should use our platform for, lad. We've got that many followers. We need to help people who need help. That's the way I look at things, lad. If I was them in that situation where I want me to share it, yeah, share it then. That's simple. Is there any name that you know when you start talking shit about you? Nah, there's a few of them already, lad. I'm starting. Have you talked about them in my fight? Anybody. Oh, lad, there's always... There's always lizards about, lad. There's proper mushrooms in this city that hate me and they just do hate me. Like, whether we've been on the wrong side over the years, I've said something about them and they'll always continue to hate me, lad, but look at me now. Who's sitting across from me, mate? You know, life is good, bro. Who's in the better position now, lad? Me or you? For anybody watching, bro, like I say, you're an inspiration from... I know you love the kids in Liverpool and all around the world now, but for anybody that just maybe want to be a fighter, what advice would you give for them? It's the same as I always give for anything, lad, believe in yourself. I always say you can't be a fighter if you don't believe in yourself. When people ask me, I say can you beat Portia or can you beat McGregor? I say, yeah. Because why wouldn't I? You know what I mean? Why wouldn't I beat them? Serious? Why would I think in my own head that someone else could beat me up? Like, if you're in MMA or even doing any fighting sport and you think anyone can beat you, you're in the wrong sport, and rugby team sports, lad. Where, like, last night when Liverpool played, you're like, yeah, Liverpool are going to slap these now. Knowledge turned up there, just now when you were getting slapped. And you can't do that in a fight. Do that in a fight, and what happened with Calboy and McGregor happens. You cover up in the first 30 seconds, you get punched in. The fight sports are different, lad. You've got to look at it like I am the best in the world. Simple as that. Poorly, I think he's probably one of the best fighters in UFC just now. Yeah, he is. I think he's going to win the bell, like. He's all the better for the bells. I've had a feeling he could ask me to fight on that card. Yeah. And then after... Because it's got a crowd on it. Where do you think the next fight will be? I think it's going to be have a crowd, like. They're going to want to put me on with a crowd. Definitely, man. Like, you're the main dog now. They're going to want to put me on with a crowd and, like, hey, the noise of my walk-out and that. They have 100% an audio. Yeah, that's right. I was thinking they could come to England before the end of the year, but there isn't really any weekends freeway. They could just throw it on there. So they'll probably come back to England in, like, March or something now. That's big plans, man. Big visions. And would you like to finish up on anything, Brunner? No. As I say that, I'm very chill, lad. I mean, I don't need to sign on a bar, anyone. That's the fucking best, brunner. I'm coming on today, Brunner. I enjoyed it, man. I can't fucking wait to see you. Thank you very much. I've enjoyed it as well. God bless you, Brunner.