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Anyways folks on to the episode Mario plus rabbits kingdom battle so at the time of recording this I have not made my review yet Maybe by the time you listen to this you will have my review. I am not 100% sure I think the segment's going up about a week from the day we're recording it So chances are the review should be up by then if it's not and I'm doing a very good job with my first-ever video review Nice, but Instead of focusing on my thoughts on it because I feel like I'm gonna express a lot of it in my review You guys have both played a bunch of it and I'm actually well you played some yeah I'm actually interested in what you guys have to think about Mario plus rabbits kingdom battle and Let's try to keep this a spoiler free as we can I am going to note for anyone that go that watches my review later There's gonna be spoilers. I'm not even gonna bother to avoid it. So the game the game's been Well, it needs to be on a review. I can understand as long as it's this one. Yeah Right Well, and that's the thing though it to in order to my spoiling everything to review something you almost have to have spoilers in it It's it's like I just want to review this for the free. I'm like, so you just want me to say make a quick 10 second video. It's good Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, right Theoretically we've already had Technically spoilers to begin with because even before the game is out because any gameplay shown is technically a spoiler before it comes out My review is gonna have spoilers, but we're gonna try to keep this spoiler free So maybe we'll call this movie the spoiler free review But yeah, what are you guys's thoughts on the game so far? Like I'll go for some how far in the game are you there? I am through the first world So you're starting world to yeah, I'm starting the desert world. Yeah, okay, and how are you Michael? I'm halfway through world three Cool, I'm just slightly ahead of you in world three time and recording. I'm trying so hard to get to that boss I heard he's so awesome I'm feeling he's gonna be my favorite boss in the game Again, I won't this here's the thing. I already know it's gonna be cool Why because I read I don't even know what the boss is yet. I read I read some reviews. Oh Again, that's why I know a lot of other people are excited about the boss of world three anyways All right, so that's context. I am a little bit ahead of Michael. I'm about three quarters of the way through world three He's about halfway and Eric's just entering world two And if you don't know what any of that means that's fine all the better than this isn't any sort of spoilers for you Because you don't even know those worlds Then it technically is a spoiler When it is a spoiler, I don't know if there's worlds everything's a spoiler I said as spoiler free as we can be right so Michael Let's start with you since actually we'll start with you because you're not as far in the game What are your thoughts so far? Um, this game is exactly what I thought it was gonna be which is amazing It did the second I heard there was a crossover. I first off. I absolutely love Rebbins I've been on record saying that from when I first heard this console Hey These guys are awesome. I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna deny. I'm a child. I am a child I know the movies you always want to go to unless it's a war hero movie is Like let's go to the Disney movie. Let's go to the do this and that let's go to cars. Hey, no No, no, but good movies. Yes, um Well, hey, that's good movie. So, uh, no The second I saw gameplay footage of it and it reminded me so much of XCOM and then you get it and it feels Exactly like XCOM. Have you ever played an XCOM game? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah XCOM and anyone? Oh, yeah Yeah, I absolutely love that game. No, I wasn't saying that like oh you have played XCOM Yeah, yeah, yeah, I really want to get XCOM too, but I just I can't time You already got it. Yeah, right, right But I absolutely love it. It it's it's got the goofiness of the the rabbits the great feel of Mario and That gameplay is almost identical to XCOM. So Yeah, right Michael what do you think about the game so far? Well, I've never played a rabbits game before so I was going into that fresh. I love the characters Especially the rabbits characters peach. I love peach is Her everything she does is just it's great. I've probably taken maybe three dozen screenshots of her taking screenshots The plot I find very interesting It's it was kind of hard to figure out at first like the full direction of it But then you know once some other characters showed up without going into spoilers It became easier and now it's all flowing really well I feel that there's like like this adult versus child kind of mentality where it's like the Mario universe is like this adult But yet the rabbits is like this child and I think it's a really good balance between the two You know, what's weird when you when you mentioned that I was just talking to Eric briefly about this earlier Because I just realized At the at the point I am in the game that people the thing you drive around a little I swear that It swears in the game. Oh, yeah, but like obviously it's bleeped out child friendly But it's clearly like if you insert the F word where it's all bleeped out. That's what it's saying Yeah, like every time and I'm just like Huh, what I mean, I get that like a kid who doesn't know the language isn't gonna get it Well, you know, it's a very like, you know, Disney kind of move where like you have these adult themes in there But like kids thinking now don't get it till they're older, but like this is a very direct Like it's not like some hidden in the background thing or like a minor reference. No, this thing is like saying F off and I Like it's really frustrated at one point. He's like what the bleep and I'm like Okay, come on. I'm like I'm fine. I'm 31. It's cool. I think this is hilarious I'm just like what's this game right again, right? Is this a teen for teen or what? Yeah, I know he's not actually swearing But they're really they're getting awful close to making it very obvious that that toe is right on the line there. Oh I'm sorry. It's just so when you're bringing up like that that battle between adult and child It's really weird too because Mario has always been kind of certain more child friendly At least in terms of the characters Obviously, you know, you can argue the gameplay is obviously, you know, especially in the 3d games is favorite adults or at least older kids but yeah, it's Yeah, I'm sorry go on. I'm sorry. I just so you said child. I was like wait a second That really reminds me. Yeah swearing. What? Yeah, what the bleep? Yeah, especially with the Toad and Toadette. Oh my gosh, Toad and Toadette Yes, folks. Sorry. Toad and Toadette are in the game. Oh my god. Toad and Toadette are in a Wario game. Whoa, that wasn't spoiler because that's happened since the beginning I don't know if Toadette was in the game. I don't remember. I don't know. Go on. I lost my train of thought now. Well, you were saying a blend of the two franchises child versus adult. That's all I remember. The battle system I really like because any individual can go into it and it can be completely different for them and how they move, how they battle, where they shoot, where they use defensive, where they put whatever I really like that because then it almost gives you like multiple play-throughs if you want to go back or if you want a better score or what have you in most of those types of games I also thought it was interesting, especially now that I'm deeper in I didn't notice it as much at first but all the characters are unique Oh very much I mean there are two that have kind of similar but then there's like this massive difference in other things they do and you don't really realize it early on I guess because you start out with the base group and then you slowly add to it and it's weird because for the longest time I was just smashing my way through the game smashing my way, smashing my way and then when I got to World 3 I started realizing how much I need to vary up my teams sometimes battle by battle because like I was getting frustrated I would even, yes this game has an easy mode put it on easy mode and still just get my butt whooped if I just kept using the same team I'd always use I developed these strategies with these teams that don't work against some of the enemies or don't work very well even though you're trying to easy mode power through it with extra health because that's literally, just so folks know, all easy mode is extra health it doesn't make you hit harder it doesn't make the enemy AI any worse it's just, we give you 50% extra health and if you're still getting your butt whooped before you even got halfway through the map then you're probably only going to get three quarters of the map to still get your butt whooped so like it was just really interesting, like the battle I just passed I'm not going to go into too many details about the specifics of it but I had to completely change up my group and the only, I don't even know if this is a spoiler you have to use Mario every time no matter what he's in it and I feel like, at least so far, maybe my mind will change by the end of it that I don't like that that you can't swap out Mario I understand, is the mascot, I get it Mario plus Rabbids Kingdom out of Rabbids there's no specific one Rabbid that is a mascot but Mario is the mascot of Mario but you could argue the one Rabbid that they're trying to which one? you start off with two start off with two Rabbids no, no, no, the one that they're trying to get oh, you could argue that that's that's, no, no spoilers, spoilers anyways, but no, there is a I wish that they would have just made it so you are required to always have one Rabbid character and one Mario character whether it's, you know, whoever Luigi or whoever or a princess or whatever like it's, I would like to have more because I feel like when you lock into Mario you need to always build your team around him and I think there is some cool strategy to that but I think at some point the game just needs to be like look, you can now use any of them just, here's your restriction now you can't just use straight Mario characters or straight Rabbid characters and that's the only thing I think is frustrating right now it sounds like Mario is a good character I mean, he's not like it's someone you wouldn't want to use but there might be certain battles I can't even think of something that I've already experienced where I'm like, I really wish I could have swapped out Mario for this other character because this other character really just fits that situation better than Mario does because like Mario's base attack is very similar to some other characters but then Mario gains advantages in other ways but it's like, you know do I want to have, you know, two characters on the field that have the same abilities where I can have three different characters that have completely different abilities and all complement each other and that's, it feels weird to criticize like, oh my, I'm criticizing a Mario game for making me play as Mario right but this is that one kind of game where yeah, I feel like you should and I feel like when people think Mario, yes initially maybe require it but then back off that requirement because once you get further into the game you realize like, even if you've never played Mario before that Mario has multiple characters multiple different characters you know, Luigi as an example when you get early on and that you should just be able to play with those characters and set Mario on the sidelines but just like you can in Super Mario Brothers 2 and Mario Kart, it's not like people aren't used to this concept of not having to play with Mario in a Mario game Mario Kart is Mario in the name, so sure Mario Kart can do it, Mario plus Rabbids can do it Mario is technically always racing whether you're playing with them or not so yeah, but I don't have to play as Mario right, you don't have to play as Mario but technically Mario is always technically you don't play as any of these characters you're just Beepo telling them what to do you're right, very true but still in a game that's all about it's a strategy game let's just call it what it is, it is a strategy game and as a strategy game I feel like you're limiting what my possible strategies are right in that sense but again, maybe it does change I don't know, I haven't beaten the game maybe I get what I want or maybe when you beat the game you get that when you go back to the challenges you can change a Mario Kart I have no idea maybe it says it in the review somewhere if you can or not, I don't know but I just kinda watched some reviews and had it on in the background because I didn't want the game to be completely spoiled for me I don't understand the sentiment out there where people wanting quote unquote spoiler free reviews or what do people tell me I want a completely objective review yeah and I'm just like so what do you want me to tell you just the facts it's 1080p, it's 30fps it's built on the snow drop engine Ubisoft made it it has these characters in it what else it doesn't matter, it's objective I'm just telling you here's how many worlds there are here's the names one, two, three, spoiler, whoop and here are the facts it is a strategy game and you move people around there are many more facts what you like now, do you want to know if the game is any good can't tell ya it's not objective I never understood what people say I think I know what you mean you don't mean what you think right you just want me to eliminate certain bias just word, I do not think it means what you think it does well you're in this world to say what reviews even as we're talking now all of us come with a certain bias everything we do in life is based on our own experiences what we enjoy is based on our experiences even if there's things I've never played the next game am I going to like this I don't know, I'm not you you know I've played XCOM, I haven't played a lot of it so I'm probably I have very little experience and I'm enjoying it so far but it's like no matter what I say in the review no matter what any of us say about the game in general we can't tell you if you personally are going to like it right, Michael have you played any XCOM games? nope I highly recommend if you like this game XCOM at least XCOM enemy or non XCOM so it looks amazing I don't want to say that this game is exactly like XCOM but it's pretty close and the only other thing I'll say and again I don't consider it a spoiler because it's not story related I'm just not giving away any specific gameplay stuff if anybody out there thinks that this is easy let me tell you the game lulls you into thinking this the difficulty spikes are crazy it's very random you will go from one battle where it's like a cakewalk all of a sudden the next battle you're dead before you even got past turn 2 yeah oh yeah it's a strategy game right I'm going to put some gameplay up in some other videos have you ever played a strategy game before? yeah but this is a new game and I have to die to realize what the best strategies are it's not like I plan to die I carefully go high by cover I carefully do this, carefully do that all of a sudden this enemy has a new ability you never even knew about you just get destroyed sit there and awe wondering what just happened sorry spoilers I said you know even on easy mode I died to this battle wasn't even a boss battle I died to it like 6 or 7 times before I finally realized the best way to tackle that map all the maps are different and you got to get the right combination of abilities you know they have snipers just like you have snipers they have bomb throwers like you have bomb throwers there's a lot of counters to what you put out there and again that's why I hate the fact that I have to use mario you enter a map and every enemy is a counter to mario that basically be like ok mario you just have to sit back and try to pot shot people good luck because all the other guys in the team can shoot twice as far as you and can move twice as fast and oh my gosh it's just a lot of a lot of people I think assume that mario plus rabbit's kingdom medal even if you knew it was a strategy even if you knew it was based on excom that they just thought oh this will be like a nice introductory game to get people into strategy games and then they'll upgrade to excom down the line let me tell you that someone who has played a bunch of excom and a bunch of mario plus rabbit's kingdom medal now it is not even like mario plus rabbit's kingdom medal is not baby compared to excom it is like on par in fact I had an easier time playing through and meeting the main parts of excom than I did right now I've died more times so far in mario plus rabbit's kingdom medal than I died in excom to the first time through right it also depends on what level you're on but the difficulty spikes in excom are almost identical too where you go into one battle and all of a sudden you just get wrecked and you're like wait what oh simplified there's nothing simplified this is very you have to think carefully about how you spend skill points and think carefully about which weapon you want to equip just because you know this is the most expensive weapon for your character doesn't necessarily mean it's the best for that fight you know you got to balance and honey and stone what's the difference between all of them inking people whatever one you suck the life force out of people you got to think about all these sub abilities spoilers there's so much you have to think about in this game it's not any different than excom if people thought this was baby mode no is it going to get people into strategy games I hope so I hope that gets an excom to the switch yeah I mean honestly people talking about oh get mario plus rabbit people to come over to excom how about some excom players come over to mario plus rabbit kingdom battle oh yeah it is but you know that type of strategy is something that I'm finding as a new person into this that I'm really enjoying that I have to like almost think you know five or six steps ahead you do if I you know if I do this then this happens and that happens and they're going to do this and how do I counter that and it really makes you think as opposed to just walk in and pull out your sword and smash him with yeah it's totally different than like a fire emblem that's another strategy game with the grid like aspect women characters are on healing below but that has a very different playing style compared to this and just like those games have very different playing styles from advanced wars another, you know, tactile strategy game and the thing is is mario plus rabbit kingdom battle does not have a very different field from excom it is excom with mario oh yeah mario it's a mario skin excom with a very interesting story as Michael had said kind of confusing at the start but it starts to make I don't even completely make sense but I'm further then him but I I piece in some things together with it which is a really cool approach to how they the story. Well and there's so many other little details as you walk around and you look at your surroundings and see what's happening. So many. Like I'll just say this is for all the little fine details they're fantastic. This game is gorgeous. I don't care what anybody says you know about how well switches underpowered and this and that. I play this game and just look at the water. Oh my god. Look at the lighting. But you're like oh but it's Mario and rabbit is like those aesthetics are easy. I'm like I'm sorry this is beyond any Mario or rabbits game I've ever seen. Yeah those aesthetics are easy but the world itself is a world itself and there's so much going on. Oh yeah for sure. This game is you could you could tell me that this is a PlayStation 4 pro game and I wouldn't know any different. You know obviously 4k resolution besides that. Yeah like seriously this game that snow drop engine that Ubisoft use which is their brand new engine that they plan to use for all their future games including Assassin's Creed and they used it for the division that was the very first game to use it. My word. Oh yeah. Like everyone always says only Nintendo can make these ultra gorgeous games on Nintendo system. I'm sorry Ubisoft just did it and they did it better than Nintendo has done it in many cases. This is it is such a gore. It's hard to describe. You just like you can watch even when you're watching my review the videos don't do a justice because of compression. You just got to see it in person. So switch screen like even that 720p screen. It looks so oh man. It is like I can't it feels we're saying that oh tomorrow game of course looks good. I'm like yeah we all know it was gonna look good. I didn't think it was gonna be this good. Right. This this to me. I know it's minor but it feels next gen. The details that they put into this game are just ridiculous. No it's just it's another level. It really is as I said it feels next gen to me and I know it's current gen. That's the way it works. Right. But like when people always talk about oh they get to get the newest system and what's the game it feels next gen. This feels next gen to me. Right. For a console. As I said it would be writing it would not feel out of place on competitor systems. And yeah I'll you know what until Odyssey comes out I'll go ahead and say this is the best looking Mario game I've ever played. Yeah. Yeah I'd agree. Yeah. I mean think about that the best looking Mario game ever made wasn't made by Nintendo. Whoops. Well we'll see Odyssey might top it. Yeah. It looks good so far. It does. But it's a different kind of good different kind of engine. We'll see we'll see how it compares but right man this game it's it's pretty good books. If you can't tell I probably will not have a negative review. Doesn't mean I don't have a criticism. Oh right. I'm saying I'm criticizing the Mario thing but again I haven't completed the game. All all of my critiques are incomplete. Right. You know I think the game is gorgeous if it all falls apart in the final level I can ruin everything so we'll see we'll see what happens but right now I think it's just very interesting that Ubisoft a company people have to criticize a lot. A company I even criticize because I don't I don't like what they did with the season pass having eight exclusive items the season pass and I know a lot of people are like oh well those items might not be you're right you're not going to use the items forever but they do give you an advantage. They are the best items in the game you first get them. Well so did the pixel items which apparently we're supposed to be a pre-order bonus but everybody get it I don't know it was inside the box so yeah I don't know how do you how do you know which copy's a pre-order copy. Is it just certain retailers I have no idea how that even worked but I got mine at GameStop so I don't know maybe we all got it at GameStop. No I got mine through Amazon and you got mine. Okay so these three different retailers so it's not a retailer thing or maybe it could have been just a first run maybe like new versions that get shipped out now don't have it I don't know. Right yeah it says like launch exclusive it says something on there but it's like okay I don't know what that means I mean the digital people that get it that sucks for them right yeah I mean seriously I dominated world one with those items so yeah yeah it's like I'm telling you folks they give you an advantage like they are the best weapons in the game at the time right thankfully they don't stay that way right because that would just be cheap to be honest. So did you both get the season passes? No I have not I probably will I didn't either okay I was just curious if if you guys did as well. I debated after I beat the game and getting ready to do my review right before I do that buying the season pass just so I could play around with those items and then like in the review in the review just kind of say like how do they compare to the pixel items can ever I'm gonna have to talk to multiple people can you get these items even today or was it you know and then kind of freight because that's the thing my entire experience in world one was with those items I don't know what it's like to play it with others I know I can go back and play with those items it gave you multiple save files but it's still something that I just want to play around with I guess so yeah I mean I'm not a completionist this is like a perfect game for completionists oh yeah I mean why do you think I've only beat world one hey you can't even 100% world one uh yeah you can't no I know well no I can now wait maybe I can't yet I don't know I don't know but I've been running around trying to do things that I can't do so even now as I'm like I'm trying to rush through the game I'm not really rushing through it I'm just giving myself an excuse to keep playing um but even as like I'm trying to like I'm really trying to get to this next boss I it doesn't stop me from explaining remember when I kept complaining about the one part I'm like okay I'm really tired of this I'm really tired of this it's my own fault right because I'm trying to find everything I don't have to do this it's optional side step it is but I'm just like but I'm I'm a completionist so I got it yeah and that's what makes breath of the wild such a pain in the ass yeah just do all the shrines forget the corex seeds yeah that doesn't work for me not me either on my master mode run I'm 100% in the game and it's it's rough I'm like 150 corex seeds in that's literally all I've been doing is just corex seed hunting my goal is to basically corex seed hunt and just do the quest as I as I'm through the land and then once I've done all the corex seeds then I can go to actually enjoy the game right and actually do the fun things all the all the minigames yeah it's like the corex seed stuff is is just it's some of it's fun some of it's unique some of it's really cool but so much of it's repetitive that it's like okay how many more rocks do I have to lift right oh look there's this random rock just sitting on the middle door hmm I wonder what this could be looks especially I mean my favorite ones are the ones like oh you're bowled on a hill or like the ones that are like Eventine Island but like those are those are not the common ones the common ones are you lift up a random rock that doesn't even look like it's out of place at times and there's a corex yeah there's like so every rock in the game lift them all I mean I'm not I'm using a map okay I you call me a cheater if you want I'm not truly 100 I'm not discovering it all on my own I never said I was there to discover it all my own I just want my save file to say I 100% of the game yep well actually there's more to do beyond the 100% actually but yeah whatever Breath of the Wild is that kind of crazy right and I'm trying to get it all done before the the story DLC comes out that's not gonna happen it's not gonna happen I could already tell you because now I'm playing Mark the King of the Valley and like MVA 2K18 is coming out and then really soon I try Samus Returns and Odyssey and now LA Noir is hitting next month oh hard no November so much yeah well hey well I can't like well I guess I just got through you so don't read this like I get a game I have a year right oh man anyways I think that's going to do it for the podcast this week I really want to thank Michael for coming on and thank you so much for your support of our channel on Patreon it means a lot more than you can even fathom I'm just it's weird too because you also live in Wisconsin so yeah so number one supporters also Wisconsinite we are so kind well thank you for letting me come on 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