 excitement and outcomes. Always treat any kind of nervousness in your body as being excited. If you're excited about something, it's the exact same physiological process as being nervous. The same thing happens, your heart rate increases and all that. So we need to reframe, never use the word nervous again. Say, I'm excited, because it's exactly the same. And if you're excited during a job interview, you come across so much more comfortable. And then we get to outcomes. Always talk about the outcomes that that person is looking for in that candidate, because you want them to be thinking about the perfect outcome while they're looking at you.