 You know, whale oilers, this is Luttington Breedy and I'm here in Lonseston's sunny Brisbane Street Mall. As you may be aware, Tasmania's parliament is currently debating transgender legislation very similar to that proposed for New Zealand. So I thought I'd come here and ask some Tasmanians just exactly what they thought about the proposed laws here. New Zealand is looking to pass very similar transgender legislation as they're trying to put through in Tasmania at the moment. What's your opinion on those laws? Well, I haven't got that much of an answer. I think it's alright. Let's move forward. Just everybody has their own equal rights. Like, yeah, we are who we are. And every individual should have their choice. I don't know if you're with us. Yeah. I think everyone's got a fair chance. Well, I don't really know a lot about it, to be honest. I haven't got anything against it personally. Whatever each individual wants to do with their own life, what they prefer, and it's the same as you're gay, I mean, it's each to their own. I don't sort of judge. Are you aware at all of what's in the laws? I'm not aware of that. No. I mean, I've got to say I've been very busy and that's why I'm saying I don't know a lot about it. I do catch up with a bit of the news. Do you think the public have been consulted about this at all? No. Well, obviously the one most people seem to be aware of is that it will be optional to record the sex of a baby on the birth certificate. No, I don't agree with that. No, I don't agree with that. I think they should have the choice later on in life. The other part of it is that anyone over 16 can fill in a statutory declaration, which I don't know if you've seen it before. They're a very simple form and legally change their sex. They don't have to transition. They don't have to consult a psychiatrist or psychologist or anything. I could go into service chairs or the police station and log one of these forms right now and I could legally be a woman. No, no. Yeah, I think they've taken a bit too far. That makes the ones that are transitioning look, you know, puts a lot on them. And the last part of it is that the anti-discrimination laws will be expanded so that if you don't use a person's preferred pronoun, which might be he or she, but it might also be something like Z or Zia or they, and also if you use what they call their dead name, which is decided to be called Sharon and you call him by his old name Steve, that will actually become hate speech and legally prosecuted. Well, how are you supposed to know? Yeah, unless that, what are you going to go around and say, oh, what do I know you by now? What am I supposed to know you by now? Yeah, that will be classed as hate speech. I think all this political correctness in that has gone away too far. Yeah. I can understand what you're saying, but... Sometimes people make a mistake, so, you know, but yeah, like, oh, everything's just getting so technical, isn't it? You know, there should be space for error. Do you think the public have been consulted or informed enough about this? Well, probably not, because I really didn't know nothing until we just started chatting. I didn't know it was going that far. So yeah, maybe more awareness, like, yeah. Well, there we have it. People know very much about the laws at all. Most people, I think, are generally prepared to give transgender people a fair go, but when they find out what's actually contained in these laws, many people seem to change their minds. So there we have it. For Wailau Media, this is Lushington Brady.