 What made you transition? Ili fika point genu kasi mamaze, watani o koke? It was after there was a spiritual experience nili kwa naio that was life changing for me. Share with us the experience? Sure. Ya. Wala was still in the U.S. In Kwananda state o kidovo for about seven years. After it was, you know, kumpe na iso na kumaze genu believe those circular songs. So, now while I was in the U.S. I was told that I can get a major record deal but, you know, in kibidi kwanza atia I passed through NPTA initiation plan. So, kwa naisindwa mamaze say initiation na husu mziki aje and I want to do music I'm talented. Ni kwa naio giftia kufa na mziki but, you need backing. Say this. Nini kwa naisindwa sa backing ni ganitana. And it was a lady who was telling me. Ya. So, she took me to a place nini kwa nafa kufa na initiation minli kata, long story short, in li kata. So, siku jwa, you know when the enemies anajarebu kukuvuta kata ata give up na jwa ata andela kukuvuta So, even after that bilili ni toka U.S. nili wu di Kenya, Vizuri na nini kwa naka kuwande lana kazi mziki sasa siku jwa but the enemy started alianza kufunga muranguzang ya ni fighting everything I do to fight biya shara yangu, finanza zangu everything li kwa na fighti wa ya ni kwa muranguzote zili kwa mafomba as in studio nanda studio steama zina potea kwa na zidwa e maze izidi gani Ya, over and over and over again ata my ATM card li kuliwa zina kata zina kulu everything, ya, ya, ya everything I was wondering eh, this is crazy ya ni kumbe, you know when you when you refuse ukiwa kwa secular industry ukiw refuse the enemy sasa ata kuka first grade biwa kwa desperate so because when you're in a desperate position uta fanya mambo desperately so so a lady now told me e weh bambu wana faw kwa mbali man easy video they're not supposed to be happening to you al ni ambia ni watu wa me kufunga so ni kasi no watu wa me ni funga haji watu ufunga hatu ya ni du se me kufunga ati ska weh wana faw kwa na shain lakini kuna mahatas wana nda kwa wachawi wana kufunga so sendi omu angoza kwa zime fungo kasa ma sandafanya ni ni na mi by then na amini because zina video ni me piti ya ya ni li kua ya ni six, seven, eight months na piti ya the same thing over and over again it's just like a cycle going around yaa so ni kuna shindwa easy ni gani so al ni ambia pigia u jamasimo na itwa Dr. Jafari so ni ka pigia Dr. Jafari simu Dr. Jafari akani ala zia kila kitu ina ndela kwa maisha angu akani ala zia zote saia kini kasi no hemsa umsera ni jua haji so I wondered how does this guy know me and by then me I didn't know spiritual things sikuwa na jua easy ni bitu gani so al ni ambia weh fanya ifi weh kuja mombasa nda kwa ala zia kila kitu so me nda me nda mombasa he picked me up kwa gari kani pele kwa hotel visuri ni kwa kwa viduzangu then we proceeded to the to his office e kwa kufika kwa ofisi ofis ni ya ni ka room tu ame rent na alafu apo tini kuna vitu adasi juu kua leze now I know he li kwa out aflani but back then ya sikuwa na eleo easy ni ni so on li kwa tini aka nda ku recite vitu easy vitu za kia rabu kia rabu arabu siji bismillah siji ni sa alu recite alu recite iso vitu sa ame nasinwa so ni toke ama you know whatever anyway ni me kujak tokana hi so I might as well just go through with this let's see what happens e kulu kuna ama kalabash apo kalabash ya ni kama chupaflani zile za zamo then just kans mi kebe mi kebe vitu strange ya ni then lis kia sauti ina tokakwa yo kalabash sauti ya ni live ya ni saudi ya ni a human voice a voice kabisa kabisa speaking to you alright then what did you do so main lishanga ya ni si jayo na kitukai yo mi si jay kuwam to religious ama si kuna jo easy these spiritual things I didn't think they were real e kumpe this thing is real man iyo sauti na tokakwa yo kalabash na iyo sauti sauti compare instructions Dr. Jafari compare instructions ya villain na faku fanya ati na faku kwa duka ni nu nui chupa ya zesta asi chupa mi kebe ya zesta brand nu ni si fungue ati kutoka apu ati ni fike kwa hotel ni oge ni seime iyo ati aya ma uchao iyo uchao iyo te watu wame ni weka ini toke ingi kwa yo chupa at this point you had not made God so you did not know so you thought those were not the solution ya I thought that was the solution because people have put because you see the what they tell you watu wame kuwe kwa uchao iyo so ita bidi ufane bitu ni de utu e iyo uchao iyo oh so ufane uchao iyo ingi nu utu uchao na watu wana wetu wengizana wana wungu kwa yo kitu because awa jui neno awa jui neno ya awa jui mungu so wana wana ende letu na shuguli zao wana ah sinaba ati na deseka but did you come out of it ya so now ania me ni nu iyo chupa ni oge ni seme so bitu watu wame ni weke zi ini toke zi ingi kwa yo chupa arafu ati uwe kechi ni akitanda then ulale alafu keshoku ja na so I nifanyaivo and then I put it under the bed ni kajaribu kulala kini nukonashinua kulala I kept on looking under the bed kuna iyo kidubada uiko but nothing happened kia shoyake Dr. Jafari akakam akani pik we went back to the to his office akari saitele incantation tena agoka sauti kagakam then akatuambia ni funguwe yo chupa so I yo un popo so I I opened it myself so na just belezesta iko you open the plastic then you open the tin so ni mainly funguwa then we spread a newspaper apochini then we emptied the contents on the newspaper e li ona vitu kondani nili ona vitu zime changani ona jam crazy things so one of the things I saw ilikwa kama zila necklace is our Catholics those Catholic rosaries e li kwa pondani vitu inaka kama zina ka grapes some things look like onions small small lakin tu dogo tu dogo tu na alafu alikwa nasama everything there represents kituambia li kwa mefunga maisha so alikwa kalamu jafari akatu kwa kalamu akainuakila kitu na that voice now ilikwa ina elezea ok ilikwa kumpunga tiasi sapiri ilikwa kumpunga asipati pesa ilikwa kumpunga vidu yani nani wongo but by then utaunani kwe utaunani kwe li because man unaskia sa uti na tokai hey, yani these things are crazy so alitu alitu pair instructions usautili to pair instructions akasama na ia li kwa nangena kiswa ili ingini yani zila lewi so ni doctor jafari alikwa na translate because ilikwa na bonga na zila lewi dididi nasama so jafari alikwa translate akasama ok ame semaivi 20 baharini uta change ati atachinja atachinja gamia alafu amuagiyo damu kwaizo uchawi izi malize so menele sama mi suezi nda ati baharini usiku ati kuchinja gamia mi sifiki uko zama wellu sijali sistu akupanya welli pier so mi I paid for it na nika nda kuangali a movie mi wakati nangali a movie awa li kwanafanya izo vidu hey, sii mi nuanda kuskia nika na lemewa nika na nda kufend kumbeni izo vidu zime ni kujia because now I've opened the door once you participate in it you've opened a door it opens a door to your life so now me I was discovering these things for the first time one on one so I woke up nika amka ilibidi ni toke kwa theater because it will kwa menda kuana mutants ex men so ni toka kwa theater kabisa na ati ata movie ki play naskia ni kwanenda kufend and then I got an idea sii mu umumbi ni nini you had a pastor friend I had a friend who happened to be a pastor so I just called him nika mule kila kitu manzei me fanya iwi manzeo me fungo amu lango akanda kuomba then that thing ikaniwa ata after he prayed while he was praying for me ikaniwa ata is that when you gave your life to Christ at that point so that's when I began to realize kuna mumbu inendele vitu mbazo atu juli things we have no idea about things going on in this world that's when I began to realize what I know now that number one life is spiritual is that why you started you began this ministry life is spiritual yes life is spiritual and that's everything to naona kwa idunia this physical world is controlled by a spiritual world that spiritual world is very real is more real than this one this physical world is temporary but that spiritual world is eternal na mungu anataka to focus to atuki focus on the spiritual world not on the physical one so that's why he says to be carnally or physically minded is death but to be spiritually minded is life and peace because he is telling you uki elewa nininina fanyika in this spiritual world then the physical life becomes easy it becomes much easier but if you focus here in this physical life uta shindwa kwa nini vitu zina nani fanyika ewi how come zina baati how come na pata easy dreams how come na mazena shindwa patata job I have cycles inendele kwa maisha how come uta kwa na maswali mingi sana kamawe lewi nininina fanyika in the spiritual world exactly but how does someone tap into the spiritual world is there like a formula lazima okay now the physical world is ruled by the spiritual world but the spiritual world is ruled by laws iso laws iso masheria zimendi kwa kwa biblia so the more inendele kwa kwa biblia the more you know the laws of God then you know how the spirit world operates and if you know those laws then you can use them to your advantage yes it's as simple as that the word of God it's not rocket science now let's talk about music kuka o koka it took you a while before even you released your agusbel song is there a reason why it took you that long I think no kwa na tagaku grow I wanted to grow in in God to learn God's word to become strong to be more grounded because at that time you need training any minister of the gospel must pass through training if you don't pass through training you will end up in a coma so many men it's better for you I remember when I was in Tamsani I was in a secular school and the gospel was like it was easy but you say it took time to go and go by training then you released your song then you passed then I decided that's the time I began going through training because now I'm learning how to be a strong Christian because kila mpristo akuna authority akuna mamlaka flani kini uspojua wei ni nani in Christ wezi elewe izo mamlaka ni gani so in life Christo si dini flani it is warfare your Christian life is a life of war you will be fighting so there are enemies kuna wachawi i dunia u mapepo zimeja there's billions of them and u bae sasa there are human beings with demons na wana zitu ma wana zitu ma kuawatu so unezakuatu maali unam mind business na suddenly vitu zimeja nzaku change suddenly umekuam gondwa suddenly something has happened to you where did this come from kumbe kuna there's somebody who's jealous of you somewhere kuna mchawi flani maali ameku tumi apepo then it comes into your life you just feel the effects but you don't know what is happening so now me at that time during that training is when the enemy is sending me things he send you anezaku tu mia spiritia depression unezaku skia depressed for the next minute kumbe that's a spirit it's a deceiver it wants to tell you that your life is useless it wants to tell you that you are no hope yani wewuna lulote don't believe that spirit it's a spirit ime tumwa so it's giving you thoughts izo simafikrazako izo nimafikrazime toko kwaio pepo so you need to take authority over that thing and say I bind you you foul demon of depression come out of my life in Jesus name shut up if you don't chase it away ita fkiriya umekubali ita fkiriya umekubali kuskiza yo manenoyake between find residents and dwell there it will dwell there to find a home and find a home on you and that's how people go from bad to worse and then that spirit of depression will invite the spirit of suicide asama uhu tusham vamiya kujakuja kujasai then that spirit of suicide comes then that's when you find someone jumping from a bridge no no very very true and sad yeah it's very sad so if you don't realize how to fight demons he walk ita kuangumu kuako faith but thank god it's a good fight of faith it's a good fight yes they say faith over fear yes now let us talk about your new project by mypage Martha mypage how did they come about how did they come about how did they come about and their new song i think tulikuwa introduced through a common friend and i to a team of still alive records and he introduced us kusama yeah this would be really nice and then she's a talented worshiper and i think tulikuwa nata kujana approach is something not people are not expecting yeah yeah yeah i wanted a totally different sound and a totally different approach kusama fujo na kumana kufanya colabo na or the street gospel yeah yeah yeah i wanted a more mature sound even me i have matured lafu line ziko but you know i just wanted it to be more mature i think pia warewa say warikuwa nanskiza iso ziku pia they've matured na una karibisha watunyumba the prodigal sound that song karibu home is sent out yes to the prodigal and sent out to those who feel hopeless especially itaimia kovid man watuome poteza kazi watuome poteza biashara yani economy me safa kidogo people feel as if god a yuko tena but god yuko and he's welcoming you he's welcoming you back home so should we expect a colabo with a kenyan artist it could be yes you should very soon coming very soon there's a project we are waiting for that thank you so much for making time to join us and i may be doing the word i don't want anyone to touch that remote because bambu will be sharing a word with us during his perversion vibe so we're going to enjoy you've not mentioned your social media pages as well as your youtube channel and how people can support your music at a pia life life spiritual ministries also so my social media is instagram bambu afrikan bantu so it's at bambu bambu afrikan bantu afrikan bantu so bambu afrikan bantu a-f-r-i-c-a-n-b-a-n-t-u bambu afrikan bantu and then took on our website and that website has our books to meandika five books with my wife i forgot to mention that one as well to ask about the you are also an author we've written five books mainly about my wife's testimony so four of them are about her testimony there's Erika her name Anaitwa Erika so there's Erika part one seven years in hell there's Erika part two 18 years with Lucifer it's part of her testimony there's Erika part three witchcraft and spiritual warfare then there's Erika part four death hell in heaven because after she got saved she began to testify then she went to a crusade and they had a terrible accident she died but pastors prayed for her and she came back but during that time she left her body you know this body is just a case it's just a suit and come and go to one day you will leave it behind you will see that's my body you know so that's what happened to her she explains what she saw so it's in that book I think it's in that book then I wrote another book called the truth about money because while I was you know when I jumped my back on circular music I started wondering how do I earn so God began to give me an education about money and the things he taught me I wrote them in that book