 The FedExCup playoffs are getting underway this weekend with the Northern Trust 124 golfers in the field the top 70 in the FedExCup standings after this week advanced the BMW Championship so a lot on the line. We're gonna break down to get you said may PGA DFS perspective welcome on into the heat check fantasy podcast powered by Numberfire that's right here on the Fanduil podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire calm joined here as always by Brandon Gadoula He is the managing editor for number fire calm Brandon You had two straight solo podcast because I had my wedding reception You were there and still did the solo podcast. So first one. I've gotten to talk to you since then. How you do it? Yeah, it's been it's been a while It's been kind of up and down. I Last week we had a bunch of withdrawals and I still had an outright on Russell Henley who blew a 54 hole lead So that was tough, but Yeah, I mean I look, you know, you're a fantastic podcast host a wonderful person I would never say to your face, but I Missed you doing a solo pod is not my strength. Mm-hmm took a lot. I was an audacity cutting out like a bunch of Those Leave it all in raw man people people love the us. That's not authentic. It is well. I tell myself when I'm lazy There's a scene in community which is Possibly my favorite show of all time at this point and Jim refuses to watch it I've watched like I've watched more than a season. Give me some credit, man I don't know when this is in this in the series, but there's a an episode where Shirley is doing public speaking and Her older friend is Chevy Chase Every time she does every time she's used a filler word He just like makes this annoying sound to try to like get it out of her And I need someone to do that to me when I'm when I'm doing a solo pod I probably need it all the time, but especially on a solo pod just right beside me making an annoying sound every time I say, uh, I Mean, it's fine. I don't think anyone truly cares It was see there I go It was it was sad not be able to talk to you But specifically because like the last podcast I did we talked about the men's Olympic Games and Xander freaking Shuffle What a gold medal. I'm shocked you were you had come down from the celebration in time to actually like Drive out to the wedding receptions. I figured you'd be like just on a on a bender somewhere celebrating Xander's gold medal Yeah, I mean, you know me I wanted to go on benders party King Hey, I did have a glass of champagne you did drink that so yeah, yeah, it was a good time But I got pretty I got pretty messed up. I know I know just it'll it'll do some stuff to you Especially when you are in such a mental state after Xander Shuffle I becomes a gold freaking medalist. I think you had a win-pick on him as well for that one I don't know for the show I think you did I'm not Entirely positive. No, I had read in Connors. Wow For sick your boy for sick. Is that the past tense of forsake? Sure for suck you for sick your boy. Do you want a gold medal? So maybe just don't bet him ever again I think that's the true takeaway here for this week We have the Northern Trust again the first leg of the FedEx cow playoffs. It is at Liberty National Golf Course It is seven thousand four hundred and ten yards. It's a par 71 124 golfers in the field Louis West Hazen not in the field this week despite being the top 125 the top 65 plus ties make the cut after two rounds This course did host the Northern Trust back in 2019 So two years ago it had also been on the PGA tour in 2009 and 2013 and also hosted the 2017 President's Cup so he does some data to look at here for sure the top 70 In FedEx Cup points advance the BMW championship next week So if you want some well narrative streets check out the guys on the bubble for the FedEx Cup Playoff points see who may need a good performance this week to advance if you want to play it that way you can But there are a lot of good golfers in the field for this week So Brandon we do have some data from Liberty National when you look back at those past events What are you what stands out to you in terms of data to emphasize to this week? Well, I'm just trying not to say Liberty City because that's my instinct Liberty City. Is that the GTA? Yeah I Thought so but I was like, are we actually talking about GTA? I Didn't want to trust my instincts there. I was like, okay, this brings me back to like fifth grade or whatever Yeah, is that yeah, yeah, well, I mean we should know we wouldn't have been playing GTA in fifth grade absolutely not Was that the one that was out back then Liberty City, what year was the GTA 3? Liberty first parents. Well, uh 2009 oh 2005 so yeah, I was in I was like an eighth grader And I was 14. I was definitely playing that 2005 for GTA 3. Are you sure? Yeah. Yeah, I must have played two when I was in middle school. There's no way Well, we'll look I feel like I was a lot younger than that for GTA 3 and I thought my city can't but anyway, anyway Way it was too soon. That's all I know Yeah, so the the three winning scores at Liberty National in those events 2009 2013-2019 We're nine under eleven under and nine under and the three cut lines were one under one under and plus five Just in case that's relevant for you But we could be looking at a winning score that's closer to 10 under than it is to 20 under and that does change the way That thing should shake out. We should have a little bit less volatility And the better golfers should be able to separate more easily and if you look at FedEx Cup Tournaments and the winners I tweeted this screenshot from Wikipedia did a lot of research to find it It's Basically just studs who win tough events and that's something that we should keep in mind more specifically for outright win bets but also For maybe a little bit more of a balanced build Not getting too aggressive with our value plays, but that's more game theory Just wanted to kind of point that out, especially with the winning scores being what they are. We're looking at small greens Around 4,700 square feet on average that puts them fourth in my database out of about 50 courses In terms of green size. We're looking and you know, think like Pebble Beach Harbor town TPC South wind as well so really small Lots of bunkers fourth most in that database fifth in water hazards as well. So Could get a little bit tricky there I think that puts an emphasis on Strokes gain approach because you're you need precision especially for the small greens avoiding bunkers avoiding water. So that's Always gonna be my number one stat, but I think especially this week The three winners at Liberty National ranked fourth second and second in strokes gain to a degree in among cut makers in that year Or in that event, I should say not that I don't want to imply season Which is like sounds obvious, but sometimes it's more about putting and that's not really been the case They've they've ranked between 20th and 30 second in putting whenever they won average, you know around 26 So that gets it hasn't been amazing It hasn't been just the putting so I'm looking at t-degree and data and if you look at data golf's course fit tool Nothing really Substantially jumps out is more important. So I'm gonna play this one a little bit down the middle And I think that the most important takeaway there is that driving distance is not a prerequisite And so that brings a lot of other golfers into play So my key stats for the weaker stroke skin approach number one still stroking it off the tee I think is important stroke skin around the green bogey avoidance and bentgrass putting Yes, that is all four facets of the game with driver irons wedges and putter But tough field Toughish course You can't really be a bad golfer in contending. Yeah, there's less margin for error when you have so many guys Who can take advantage of the errors you do make and I think that that matters a lot looking back at 2019 If you check out the leaderboard for that event There were a lot of guys who just like weren't Like you mentioned how distance is not a prerequisite But also like they just they just weren't like great off the tee in general And I think that that's kind of interesting for this week, too data golf doesn't deemphasize off the tee play on their course fit tool But like Patrick re doesn't stand out anywhere off the tee The answer is obviously very accurate. Uh hv3 was up there and he does a distance But like there was not one route But like jordan spieth that year was awful off the tee but still graded out really well overall So I think that What I might wind up doing is being pretty lenient with guys who may not be great off the tee in general Um, I don't want them to be bad But like i'm okay like a camron trangoli type guy a patrick re jordan spieth I mean spieth has been a lot better off the tee recently But like it's not a plus for him and so someone like him could benefit in a situation where Off the tee play man may not matter as much So I think that's kind of what I was seeing there is Just deemphasizing off the tee play in general maybe bumping up guys who Don't excel there but are not actively negative and potentially trying to get in on them When they can feast with the other aspects of their game. Do you think that's a proper takeaway? Yeah, I actually uh added this to my spreadsheet. Um Last week, but included things like stroking and ball striking, which is off the tee plus approach play Short game, which is around the green and putting but also I did one that was uh, basically fairway through green. So Just take out off the tee play. So for courses that that don't particularly require Gaining a ton of strokes off the tee the top five over the past year in my Database that adjusts for field strength and recency top five this week zander schoff lay patrick reed Web simpson daniel burger jordan spieth and that's for the past year You said it's past year weight gives more recent rounds more weight On that's basically stroking without driving. Okay interesting. I think speed would probably be higher if it were a more narrow range if I had to guess just because if I mean I mean, but yeah, like that's how good he's been elsewhere the past sure but like Like she's been stupid good. Yeah, uh, I I mean top. Yeah, sure Just top five, uh, I think is is Totally fine Pretty rough man could be better could be better that is for sure So we're gonna talk about golfers who fit this we'll also talk briefly about golfers Who played here in 2019 or in previous years and uh, what that could mean for this week But first a sports fans fandal is offering an exclusive promotion for new sports book users join fandal sports book today And make your first bet if you lose we'll give you a refund of up to $1,000 in site credit within 72 hours Your first benefit of depositing will qualify if you have multiple selections on one bet slip It will be the first selection you made head over to the fandal sports book today Place your first bet must be 21 plus and president colorado. Iowa, Illinois Indiana, michigan, new jersey pennsylvania, tennessee, virginia or west virginia new users only Max bonus $1,000 site credit seafold terms at sportsbook.bandwell.com gambling problem call 1 800 gambler in colorado 105 to 247 hundred in iowa 100 bets off in indiana 109 with it for confidential help michigan 1 800 270 7 1 1 7 in tennessee call the red line 1 889 9789 or in west virginia visit 1 800 gambler net as mentioned before liberty national not a constant presence on the pga tours We're not going to do the full Course history that we usually do here on the podcast instead Brand's going to run through some golfers who have done well here in the limited rounds at liberty national brandy When you look at that who are some guides who have done well here in the limited history in the past Yeah, um Well, grant that thought of three came out in 2001 which sounds more more appropriate Oh, I just looked up, uh, I I hit hit the wrong wikipedia link It's liberty city stories, which means it was like an add-on Yeah, I had the wikipedia page still pulled up because I was actually reading it I knew I knew it was the earlier part. I would have guessed uh, 2001. I was 10 Which means I definitely was playing it in middle school Oh, I remember, uh San Andreas came out on my birthday when I was so I think the reason the grand theft auto stories Or the the liberty city stories came out is because it was just for psp apparently if you remember psp is being I had one, yeah Uh, and then it was for ps2 later on. I definitely played on ps2 and not psb because I never had one Well, I I had like the original game boy and then nothing until I Got like a brand new psp from some kid who had zero interest in it for like a hundred dollars He got his people who I can talk to to get free stuff Uh, he his interests were not in video games, but more in other like theatrical Things so he had no use for psp But I'm pretty sure you could play movies and stuff in it either way sold to me for a hundred bucks It was best purchase in my life uh, and all my uh financial decisions have gone downhill since but Uh as for the best peaked early Yeah As for the best golfers at liberty national I mean i'm not gonna we we you don't want to put too much stock into what happened in 2009 Because I was when red afro grand theft out of four came out. So it's been quite some time It's been a second yeah We're 2013 which was grand theft out of five. So just trying to give you guys actually been done since then Yeah, that's wild. Okay. Yes um Yeah, but the next one's in like three years anyway, so it's just like uh, just like you got time The skyrim and the outer scrolls, but uh Okay, so jason coke rack best golfer at liberty national over those years This includes golfers with at least six rounds played. So at least two starts Jason coke rack web simpson jordan speeth rory mackleroy adam scott who won in 2013 brant snettaker At a 1.6. So he just made that cut off there And I mean patrick reid has played well here. He won in 2019 obviously gary woodland. Ian polter has also played well here, but um, you know Again, we're we're looking at 2019. That's obviously going to be the most relevant But I feel like it gives you me more confidence in someone like a jordan speeth this week or a web simpson We're jason coke rack is a value play honestly and then as for uh, some golfers who made the cut all three years, so You know, I think it's at least relevant web simpson adam scott philmicholson and charlie hoffman I think web is a really strong play on fandal this week given the the low salary Uh, and I think charlie hoffman is also a very viable Value play at 8300. So do any of these names jump off to you? Do you not care at all about any of this data because most of it's too old? What are your thoughts? No, I think it helps reinforce what we talked about before where like driving doesn't matter as much Because like the guys you highlighted first. Well, that's not a coke rack We're web speeth and then patrick reed and like none of those guys are golfers who excel off the t and that kind of validates that so I think that I know it's in polter too Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it doesn't necessarily like Directly like cameron trangalli is not on that list. He played here in 2019. That's a cut But like to me that says I can have more flexibility to use cameron trangalli despite the fact he's bad off the t I know this is this whole podcast is a way to justify me Using cameron trangalli The routes to getting there may be absurd, but hey, we're gonna justify it no matter what just the way you said that You know cameron golly played here, uh and missed the cut so that gives me a lot of confidence Cameron golly show me the fallacy here show me the lie Yeah, I mean you can't I you've been lawyered I yes, that's correct. Uh and look I'm biased. I love cam trangalli this week, too So i'm not gonna i'm not gonna argue it But I think that like the coke rack thing he's had some shaky form recently like his his most recent couple events A lot of ups and a lot of downs, but like I think Because there have still been ups amid the downs. I feel like coke rack still a really solid play this week web is interesting because I I like web generally. I cannot tell you the last time I used web because it's been Less than ideal at times, but did show upside the windem gain 8.5 an approach there the reason why I've been Less inclined to use web is because the approach play had been a bit middling In the interim there did spike back up at the windem. So I think that web is interesting. He's in a range. I do like right by paul kasey attend to So I think that web is interesting and I would say that if we're going to talk about, you know Off the t-play mattering a bit less. I think that he might be the guy It's him read and speak as the guys who stand at most to benefit if that does wind up being a correct narrative Yeah And true golly. Yeah, that's why they're That top five that I mentioned before which had to be figuratively low Actually golly though is uh in that Again, like the stroke scene without off the t's 15th in the field despite that salary. So Could be here. You know could be higher if we just narrowed down more. Well, you know, why not? um, so let's move now to current form talk about some golfers who are In interesting form, I guess the way to phrase that here is we transition to talk about rory mackle roy He's been trying to run back into form. Obviously He had some bumps along the way, but it does seem like things are at least starting to look a little bit better here So what do you see with rory mackle roy right now? And what does that lead you to think with him at 11?400 dollars? Yeah, I mean for rory his iron play is Pretty much back like you look at his his event log and you look at the stroke scheme approach numbers It's pretty much what you'd expect from rory Which makes it really scary not to like rory at 11 400, but You know We still have to shake those thoughts. It took him a long time to get back to his usual form at the start of 2021 Missed the cut at the players and the masters But won the Wells Fargo back in may at a course where he dominates usually 7th at the us open 46th at the open 4th at the olympics with no hat, which was a cool look Uh, even though it's not for me as a cool look for rory 12th at the st. Jude Um, but in that loaded wgc fedex st. Jude, he was uh He with the ball striking ranked first very easily and stroke scheme off the tee with 5.9 Only two other golfers got above three in that event. Uh, he was third in stroke scheme approach Didn't putt or chip particularly well, which has kind of been the case for him It's not always been bad, but it's kind of overall been baseline, which isn't Great unless the ball striking is as good as rory's which it's kind of back to rory level for the most part I was 23rd and 7th in his career at this course the 7th coming back in 2019. So it's more recent I I can't Go so far as to like want to bet rory. I think he's one of the The weaker win bets but at a salary of 11,400. I think we're probably gonna get some leverage because of the You know the the overall 2021 form for rory. So any thoughts on him this week? Yeah, I mean, I think that he's interesting at 11 for because I think that's uh, it's a little bit of a sour There is a bit of a gap to him and john rom the tough thing is It's not a it's not I wouldn't say it's I said big enough. I'm gonna directly repeat that It's not a big enough gap to erase like the talent gap. So rory is not a cash game consideration for me I think there you want to get up to rom and I wouldn't I wouldn't go rory over the other options But for tournaments I could see I think sprinkles make a lot of sense the problem is it is a really tough field and If i'm using rory, that's at the expense of speed. That's at the expense of john rom and Do I really want to lower exposure to them potentially not? zander's right in that range too So I think the the way that I want to play this is kind of play the the wait and see game I want to see what the fan share tags look like on wednesday night See if rory is a guy flying under the radar if he is then i'm going to be very inclined to use him because I think there's little separation outside of the Wrong speed theory. I'll put speed kind of in that tier. I think there's very little separation that's second tier here So if rory is a guy in that range who winds up going overlooked with how good his Ball striking has been it makes a lot of sense to dive in but I kind of want to get that confirmation first. So to me He's a wait and see guy. That is an unsatisfactory answer. I know But I think that's that's the the bucket in which he fits best right now Is does he grayed out as being more than that for you more than more than a wait and see type guy? I just have to wait and see I Well, okay, so fan share. I mean is early, but fan share has Rom and speeth and mora kawa leading the way with four tags. So again super early and this will all change so you know um And then rory is tied for fifth with three. So I don't know that Perhaps the read that we have on rory being a little bit under the radar Is going to be quite right. I think there's probably going to be other golfers who Kind of fit that a little bit more. Uh brooks kapka Currently is not getting much attention. What's the brooks carameter for this For this event. I feel like the carameter goes up the deeper again the playoff But i'm not sure what it is this week. I think anytime money's on the line brooks cares Like big money Is it big money specifically for the northern trust? I know it's money. It's big money to get those points Okay, so he wants to position himself well For later on and therefore will care. I would I would think so the carameter is The carameter. I think it's a carameter and no, I don't like that. I don't like that. Um, where do you rank rory relative to zander and jt? Um, definitely below zander who i'm not as hot like He's number one of my form and stats combo model He's just a big tier behind rom in terms of win odds um Then like for my simulations, not I don't care so much about what the sportsbook say, but uh, he's more in a cluster Um I haven't given jt a lot of thought Same for rory I would say jt though over rory for me. I like jt quite a bit. Uh, he's actually in my player picks We'll talk about that later on But I think this is a good week to get in on him. I think that he has Very good odds of flying under the radar. I'd like to use that as a result of that I think I think short game is more important this week than normal and jt short game Doesn't get as much credit as it deserves almost like rom's potting or even bryson's potting But right jt's one of the best wedge players that we have Uh, the the that's what I mean, but short game that we know the potting can very much come and go with jt Sure, but I think yeah Though I think that that makes him a bigger priority for me But I am open to rory if it looks like on wednesday like he'll go overlook But right now I think jts better odds are going overlooked and I like him more straight up as well But we're worrying consideration Let's talk about paul kasey because paul kasey always grades out well at least recently in data golf's numbers the true strokes gain numbers He has been coming through with good finishes too But his salary never really goes up kasey is 10 to this week That's coming off a fifth place finish at the w gc saying jude in which he Actually lost 1.3 off the tee very abnormal for kasey He gained a 4.1 approach and gained seven potting that part also had normal But that was after he finished fourth at the men's olympics in tokyo Across the past seven events on any tour kasey has five top seven finishes His worst is a 36 of the travelers He was also 15th at the open So he's not someone who gets bumped up due to short game And that does matter in a tough field. So there's a reason he's 10 to but He's great otherwise and he has been converting the good underline numbers into good finishes too So how do you view kasey here at 10 to for this week? Um, I like him. I don't necessarily like him more than let's say web should a very similar salary and Someone who I think you could easily just say is in the same salary 10,500 is victor hovland who I much prefer um, I don't know Why But I I really like hovland this week. I mean Part of the reason why is that his long-term adjusted form is a lot better Um, than than most golfers in the 10,000 range kasey, of course as you laid out in really really strong form But I think hovland Kind of out of mind a little bit compared to some of these other guys is including kasey Uh, and both of them struggle with the short games to be the putter kasey has better wedge play obviously But uh hovland a much bigger plus off the tee, which is more important So for me if I had to pick between kasey and hovland, it's going to be hovland. It's also going to be web over kasey as well Yeah, I think that the hovland thing makes a lot of sense. I might go It's probably stupid. I might go kasey by hair there. Um, but I think there's putting anyone anyone who's listening anytime jim gives like a Preference head-to-head just trust him because he's like destroying me and our head-to-head bets I can still catch you in the bobble hat, right? We have three events left You can you could actually surpass me. It's the playoff push. Okay. It's the 13th. I should try. Um, this is uh upsetting anyway, uh with kasey I think if I had to rank those three specifically I would go web one kasey to hovland three It's not because I like hovland less. It's because he's 10 five and Those 200 300 dollars go a pretty long way this week to me Like that's the difference between like, uh, we talked about trangali I like Kevin stream and they're both eight seven the difference between them and like eight four to me is a lot so I do think that Sauer makes a difference. So I don't fault you for ranking hovland that high I just think that I'll take the savings and take those guys. I give them is being in the same tier. So Give me the savings there Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna argue that. Uh, I think this opens up a broader discussion I know we're kind of deep into the pod and we're still in current form but Um, just from a game theory standpoint like a roster construction standpoint this tier being so strong I mean we get tier latin at 95 as well if you dip down tony feno can say what you want It's a long-term form. So we're really good at 97 walkie neiman 94 Your cam smiths those guys you could build a six golfer lineup between like 9,000 and and 11,000 and feel Really confident with all of your golfers Yeah It's so tough to pass up like the rom and all those guys So I think what you could do is just get one of those guys and then pepper this range You can get you can get rom and you can like you said, there's there's strewnman down there. Um charlie hoffman's 8300 cam trangali If you're willing to go taylor gooch 83 interesting Yeah, um, I think taylor gooch at 7800 is appealing Is like but if you do rom and one of those guys you can get back up into this range and and still feel pretty good That's that's the benefit of a deeper uh deeper stronger field. Yeah, I think that getting in this range Like I I want to be in this range the route to getting there. I don't care about but I want to be in this range Because kasey web hoffland all guys i'm i'm very good with you mentioned Hatten obviously no big objections from me there finau so I think this is a good range to be in for sure. I'd like to be there. Also cameron smith would benefit to from the Authority play mattering less discussion. Let's move now to Ian polter. You talked about him briefly in the course history section Let's talk about his current form. He's 8800 dollars. What do you see at polter recently? Yeah, your boy. Uh, Ian polter No, he's no actually i'm okay with that now ever since he called hatten and those guys like a bunch of muppets I now decided he's great and i'm back on team polter I'll get you some uh polter pants. I'm not wearing them But he's rounding into form uh just in time for the rider cup. Uh, I think he's worth discussing This week at that salary He's played the weekend in eight straight events. One of those was a no-cut event at wgc But he finished 10th at the st. Jude at tpc south wind Has four top 26 finishes in those eight starts the 26 was at the open So i'm not going to not count that by just looking at top 25s. That's a little bit silly Uh, we know who polter is he's someone with a really good short game and who struggles or just can't Who who bent I should say who benefits whenever distance isn't a must and that's what we get this week Distance can help it's going to help certain golfers, but you don't have to have it We know the short game's there for polter. It's a little bit less easy to bank on Elite short game to get you out of trouble But polter has finished top 10 here in each try finished 50th and putt and putting along cut makers both years that he made the cut so Doing it t to green at least and I think there are reasons to like polter Since Going over the rest of the field. He's not necessarily one of my favorite value plays But I think polter at 800 so very much in play Just might not make it make a core play recommendation for me. What about you? Yeah, I think that he's a consideration. Um, I would say though Just to bring it back to Karen Trigali again I'm going to use a guy with a good short game bad off the tee playing this arrangement to go Trigali every time so I know I'm sorry, but like John rom or cam Trigali straight up Can I get like a three fan to a point bump for Trigali and then then I'm in plus cam Trigali plus three versus john rom Yeah, I'll take that or not strokes Yeah, I'll take that. Okay fair enough. Uh, put that one down. Um, that's our first bet of the week But I think the polter is interesting. I think that a similar discussion could be had for kevin naw Um, not good off the tee obviously, but coming off the window Not funny, uh, and that's actually the second runner up for naa and his past three events Which feels worthy of discussion at least other runner up was at the john dear classic so Not exactly the most star studded fields, but hey, you know runner ups are on her up A big key for naa has been the off the tee play being Less of a poop show he gained 2.4 at the window and 1.2 at the john dear. He's now gained off the tee in three of his past four He has not gained in three or four measured events off the tee Since 2015 which says I think a lot more about kevin naw 2016 to 2020 than it does about kevin naw 2021 But hey, you know Whatever, uh, the problem is that the approach play was lacking before the window he It wasn't just the driver that was letting him down and that makes me it hard for me to buy the uptick Even if the uptick is not due solely to his short game So he's he's not 8800 dollars and branding off the tee play may matter less this week But it's 88 low enough for you to ride the hot streak and we're gonna see great out for you relative to polter um Yeah, I mean it's I'm intrigued. I think he's behind polter for me more specifically in that head-to-head Um, I don't know if this makes any sense. I've not had time to think about it But I've sorted golfers by that fairway through green strokes gained data Yes, and the those who rank above him have an average salary of 99 50 Above not our polter above naa. I mean polter is just above him. So I don't know if that makes any sense and So, you know Probably a strong play based on just that But polter rates out a little bit higher for me Kind of across the board. So I would go polter over kevin naa I'd be willing to take that head-to-head even though it sounds like we're not necessarily Locked into either of these guys. Nope. I'd rather have polter too, but I think they're both like Worth considering. Uh, what about strelman? I like I have no idea what your thoughts on strelman are I like strelman more than both these guys despite the fact he does not fit the The short game bump. Uh, I would rank strelman above naa and polter What do you think about him and hoffman? I guess too Uh, strelman over polter and naa for sure Yep, uh, his what's his salary 87 86 um What I wrote that down wrong for player picks then sorry, I mean, I just didn't hear what you said I was I was talking um So I would probably go with strelman over hoffman Yeah I think the overall takeaway is that the value plays are pretty good Yeah, I think it's just important that we don't Like it's really easy to say well, I can play john rom and ike rick your hoffman or kasey or someone like that and then Back up to a jt or something somewhere in that range and then you have three value plays I don't know if that's going to be the best combo. No, what i'm thinking is like two value plays In the 87 range and then you got 10 if you do strelman and tringale not that I would ever do that Uh, if you do those two together you have 10, uh, 10,675 left That's that's a lot. Uh, you could do some damage to that. So I find that pretty intriguing And with the smaller field but with there being a cut it's it's vital to get six out of six through Yeah, um in theory that lets you take more chances But also this is the odds that these guys finish high Are not great And if the course plays as it typically has Not going to be a whole lot of birdie opportunities. So a lot of this scoring is going to come from finishing bonuses this week. So I would say You know, again, what I was getting at is it's like, hey, you can play hoffman strelman tringale And and get three studs But I don't know if that's going to be a high up high enough upside lineup with the three value plays So if you do tringale and strelman, you can use rom and get three guys in the 99 to 10 five range. Let's read hoffman and casey. You just the whole lineup. Anyway, um, you can you can do that And I like that structure a lot of rom Two value plays and then peppering the mid-range. I think that's a pretty fun build for this week Yeah, I think that's a very easy case to be made I think it's just a little risky Because you're asking a lot from those two value plays to to have A high end upside. So I think I think I'm only going to win So like we're getting the winner already via the value play. So why do you care? Yes every yes every time I build A lineup with a value play. I say this guy's going to win No, not with a value play with cam tringale specifically well, then Yeah, if you know if you If you have if you know The winner is going to be at 8700. You can play just about anybody else you won is not going to matter too much He's gonna win guaranteed. You better be your win pick and if he's not he's not I can Guarantee you that let's take a little bookmakers are saying for this week John wrong the heavy favor for this week at fan dual sports book He is 11 to 1 then it dips all the way down to 17 to 1 where you find colin moorakawa and dustin johnson Jordan spieth is 18 to 1 Gonna say that's pretty intriguing to me followed by rory mackerel right 20 to 1 brooks cap goes 21 to 1 While all the golden boy zander schoff light 22 to 1 And there's a dip down to justin thomas at 27 to 1 also kind of intriguing bryce and d shambo 29 to 1 then daniel burger abraham answer and victor hovland right at the top group They're all 33 to 1 so we got a lot of studs here this week And let's let's let's round out our thoughts and roster construction And when we have a deep field brandon it goes one of two ways you want to get in the top guys or you want to Take advantage of the depth and bask in that mid-range. How are you viewing things this week final thoughts for you on roster construction? Final thoughts are I might limit myself to one golfer below 9 000 in my lineups Which is you can take that for what it is. Uh, that could be taylor gooch And a little bit more of a top end approach It could be more of a I would say 90 91 With jason cookrack or even russell handling at 9 000, but maybe more specifically walking neiman up to like That hovland at or patrick cantlay at 10 9 I think that ranges I really wouldn't talk to anybody out of any golfers Between 9 000 and 10 9 this week, so I think that's a really strong strong tier So for me The value in the 8 000 range is appealing, but I don't want to get caught Liking it too much in capping my my lineups upside. So that's kind of my final thought Yeah, I think for me the two Two value plays so I think I have a path to a top 10 is a very viable path to a top 10 I think that that's the where I want to go and then maybe get a rom and then bask in that mid-range or You know I do think that having both rom and like a jt type guy down at 11 1 that's enticing But this this is not going to be a week. I don't think where I have like rom and jordan speed in the same lineup That's that's pretty tough Just because I think then you are restricting the winning upside at the lot Which may sound weird given you're getting the two or two of the more likely winners in there But I think it does the overall win expectancy of the lineup goes down that scenario. I think so I think to me it's a rom and then jump down or just jump down to start Whether it be a speed which is not big jump down or Saving salary elsewhere. I think that's that's the way I want to play things for this week Which golfers odds have shifted since things opened up yesterday? Uh, basically everybody's to some degree. Um I mean like everyone kind I should say probably wiggled um, it's it's like one one to two, but uh The golfers whose odds have actually shortened web simpson from 34 to 33 Which is nice far actually what 34 to 33 It's pretty big Also big, uh hank libiota 320 to 250 rank And dug game 320 to 270 I guess notably Like justin thomas stayed at 27 and everyone else basically lengthened. So that's possibly notable and I'm walking him in state at 65 okay, um I think it's also notable more notable than that web moved down If everyone else lengthened a bit like that that also seems a bit noteworthy to me yeah, that's probably the most noteworthy live movement, but I already liked web. So i'm not really feeling like I need to To to over correct and it's also not like web has been Embrace the confirmation bias embrace the confirmation bias brandon. That's the way we want to play things always. That's uh, which is what i'm doing with That's what i'm doing with neiman Stayed the same Love neiman what could go wrong, uh, which lower salary golfers have odds to stand out to you? Um going back to like that 95 to 9,000 range if you like everyone's like 60 to 65 So it's again a pretty decent range to build around if you want to do that but more specifically at or below 9,000 Russell henley too soon And ian polter both 75 to 1 on vandal sportsbook siewel kim sarheo garcia kevinna brandon grace 90 to 1 Any big takeaways from you there siewel kim is a guy i kind of looked at but i I got a little scared off Based on the recent stuff. Uh, what about for you? I mean the recent stats for siewel kim are going to be terrible. Um You were out so i didn't really get to Yeah, really hammer home. Uh, how bad he was where how bad his numbers were? um We got 16.8 strokes from approach at the saint jude when he carted that 13 And also lost. What was it 7.8 strokes potting? So he was not only like Horrendous with his approach but he was also the worst putter So his his short term stats are going to take a lot up to balance out and recalibrate, but Right. Um, I mean, you know, I don't dislike it I can always be talking to siewel kim at this point, especially on ben grass It's kind of his best putting surface even though it's a negative and was running up last week But he had a bunch of strokes around the green, which is something he can do. Yeah. Yeah, he's so I mean You know worse picks but again Probably siewel kim at 9 000 has uh more Subjective upside than you know most of the way Windjuice is probably the grossest like phrase I could possibly use but he has windjuice And I think we got to brand that I'd really rather not That's like a Yeah, that's like a morning coffee Like flavored coffee Drinking get it. I'm gonna like a sheet. I'm gonna say I'm gonna go region. I'll say sheets Legally distancing myself from the term Weather for this week It's gonna be wet the course is likely to be soggy when the first guys tee off on thursday rain is expected that morning Winds are consistent throughout the day. So they're around 10 miles per hour So not like a waves thing but there will be some dampness in the morning More rain possible Overnight thursday into friday the wind is calm throughout the day with a slight decrease of the day goes along I would not view this as being a major leg up for either wave, but it is worth noting. There is some weather, you know specifically rain stuff like that so You could play waves. I don't think that anyone specifically benefit But like maybe you just try to play that angle either way Rain is possible both saturday and sunday as well Wind does not appear to be an issue. So looks like it's a damp week overall brandon When we know the course is probably gonna be damp. Is that all through anything for you from a process perspective? I'm sure more than it does but without concrete research on it. That's like Something that I can dig into I don't really do a whole lot with that information Possibly distance gets more important if there's less rollout depends on how soggy things get If there's a lift clean place then like Collin more cala probably just picked this thing apart small greens too. Um, yeah But until we know that I it's hard to to do too much I agree. I think that's where I'm at as well probably keeping things pretty straight up So let's move now into our player picks here for the northern trust brandon Who stands out to you for this week at liberty national not liberty city I'm gonna go with I think that I think he's our guy at this point. He has not been our guy But like the last six months he has been he's become our guy again And it's jordan spieth I think that if you're not playing the favorite Jordan spieth is a great alternative at 11,900 on fandal I bank a lot on my wind simulation model, which is performed pretty well long term uh and even I don't I don't I don't say that because I'm I'm jim's making fun of me. If anyone's not watching my shoulders off, man Golf four more golf right out of the year brandon cadoula got it flaunted stuff, man. You won't say it's I well The i'm gonna disagree with the wind simulation model, which is not quite as high yet on spieth as the win odds imply He needs to be to like him to bet but I'm going to bet him either way Because this feels like a jordan spieth set up if you don't need to Pound driver down the fairway and gain a bunch of distance or even gain a whole lot of strokes off the tee again It's going to help and spieth's driving is getting a lot better Pretty quickly. I guess two top 20 finishes at liberty national I think that this just sets up really well for spieth and honestly I'm I'm gonna I'm starting to have a lot of fear of like not being on spieth And that's not a good feeling to have that's not a good reason to play somebody But the data is also there for spieth. So that combination It's basically the same way I feel about xander the data says he's going to win or be a great play Uh for this week. I think that's pointing to jordan spieth So we always talk about how current for our course history is tough because people are in different form at the time Before when they get there. So spieth at the northern trust in 2019 at this at this course um Was not in good form his previous 10 events before that he was averaging 3.7 strokes gained per event He's at 9.1 now get that via fantasy national his previous five was at point uh point five and he's at 9.2 now He still finished sixth. So he was not in great form. He now is uh, I think that what I want to do is pull a gadulla and Fill out a lineup with rom Duplicate it put in speed for a hundred dollars less probably keep everything else the same I think that's the the way I want to play things this week But I do like rom too. Let's talk about him. Uh, the betting odds are are too short for me, but There's almost no gap between him in the field and dfs this week And there should be rom leads the field and true strokes gained both over the past year and the past six months and his lead in both those is Decent relative to I mean given where they're at Uh, we've seen him go absolutely bananas in tough fields this year He won the us open seventh at the scottish open third at the open championship I can't poke any holes here. I would say for cash games brandon. I lock in rom and go from there What about you for cash specifically? Yeah, for cash games. I think and you laid out the case for it is look My win model actually sees slight or like even Even value on rom which is rare to see for a betting favorite. Yeah That's because he's gaining 2.59 strokes per round over the past year with my all my adjustments, which is wild Only zanders also above two and he's down at a 2.06 um So yeah, rom very likely to win but like you said, it's the It's one thing to bet him Uh, it's another to play him at a pretty reasonable salary relative to everyone else So it's going to be chalky, but we're talking cash games. Then yeah, it's You just lock in rom and I think it's going to be a 5v5. Although, I guess technically With both of us on tringoli very likely a 4v4 this week in our head. I don't know. Maybe I'll fade tringoli You never know. I could get wild. I'm not going to it'll be he'll be in there. Uh, who else do you like in this upper range? So because I said I I like a balanced lineup I'm going to recommend victor hovland who's just kind of kind of one of my favorite plays I love him as a bet Uh, 31 he might be 33 now. I don't actually remember but Um, 10 500 is such a good salary for victor hovland Uh, should really benefit at at this course. Um, you know, some golfers we've talked about a lot of the golfers we talked about have uh benefited from Liberty national not requiring driving distance That's not going to be the angle that helps hovland. It's really that like putting hasn't led to the winds It's been t-degree in play And that's what victor hovland does at his peak. He's in the 93rd percentile and adjusted strokes gained t-degree over the past year with all my adjustments Uh, 93rd percentile and bogey avoidance, which is one of my key stats So it's one thing to make a lot of birdies But hovland despite the the poor short game relative to some of the other golfers Still good at not getting into trouble. I think that's appealing So I like him as a win bet, but honestly as a as a just a Like per salary dollar value He's one of my favorite plays of the week if not my favorite I think he does great out pretty well. Again, I like taking the savings on kasey and web, but like Borkinola's dose. Let's get hovland in there too. And I think that that will work or trace Borkinola's trace. See Uh, it's where they're going though. Um, I I do advocate for a balanced approach this week, but I also think that there is some Some viability in talking about justin thomas. He's at 11-1 and maybe it's not an aram or a speed lineup But like starting off my lineup with jt at 11-1 and then pepper in that mid-range I think that's also pretty intriguing that could get it to where I could go One of strelman tringale one of the value plays and then still feel pretty good about things The reason I like thomas this week is he he just finished 26 of the wgc st jude and that's That is uh, because he lost 5.1 strokes putting He gained 6.1 an approach for that event. The approach play has been consistently great He ranks fifth there in the past 50 rounds 19th around the green You just you just need him to not give it all back on the greens and he's had some lows there recently But like you alluded to before it's not all bad He did gain 4.8 on the greens at the us open So he still has an upside he can have a a big event with the putter and if he does that he can win So I think that 11-1 is forgiving enough me to to talk about jt as being someone I want to actively make sure I have exposure to what are your thoughts on justin thomas for this week I don't dislike him, but I can only play so many Studs and I've actually been guessing wrong on like hey, I'll pick my studs and then rotate in values I think I've had better success just picking my values really whittling those down and then rotating in the studs So I might go that route uh this week Like lock in the lower salary golfers But I think the thing for thomas that always we have to keep in mind is yeah If you look back at his his results You're going to see a lot of red weeks in the putting but you're also going to see enough green And it's different. We've talked about this before but it's different never to gain strokes With your putter and be you can be a baseline putter with really bad weeks and really good weeks You can also be like a neutral putter with always neutral weeks Jt needs to get like three strokes gain putting and he's live for a win Anywhere it doesn't matter how good the field is he can gain strokes against anyone t to green So I would never talk anyone out of jt in an event like this. He's not my favorite play I'm probably not going to prioritize him at all But I see the case form this week. I'm going to prioritize 20 of him I think is the way I want to play this uh just to make sure I have some exposure I think that he is really enticing I would not expect him to be on 20 of rosters given how good the field is So I think that uh, I'll be overweight on justin thomas this week Let's move now to the mid-range good range as alluded to who are you looking at there? Patrick reed I've talked about him in the mid-range before but that's because he's like 10-1 and I said like I'm talking about Patrick reed He's 9900 this week, which is not substantially different than 10-1. I know but uh, it's firmly in that mid-range that we're looking at and honestly just Just too good of a salary uh to ignore reed who is the tech like the defending champ at the course Not of this event. Uh, he he was fourth in strokes game t-degree in that win Was abnormally good uh off the tee that week, which I'm not banking on again But the recent form while not amazing is still good enough Uh, lots of travel, but that's kind of starting to be in the past for him And we're looking at a course where short game can kind of guide him to another win He has good good success in smaller field events too. I think it brings out the best in him to play These tougher events And again, like if the winner is close to 10 under than 20 under I think that sets up well for a patch of reed week I agree and We talked about web. We talked about kc. We talked about hoveland if I can't get to them I am very very very okay settle in settling for reed is like a Settling is not the right word. I am very okay taking the savings and going reed I think that he grades out really well with that said i'm going to cheat and put paul kasey in the mid-range Despite the fact he is 10-2 our podcast star rules Maybe he is too good for a salary to be this low kasey ranks third in approach the past 50 rounds according to fantasy national Also 20th around the green and 39th in bankgrass putting kasey ranks fourth in true strokes game in the past six months The guys above him are john rom jordan spieth and collin moracawa What more you got to say paul kasey? I think that uh At 10-2 makes a lot of sense, but I will say I would like to get a lot of hoveland kasey web reed So the further we've gotten to this podcast. I would say the more I've talked myself into One rom spieth jt one of those guys and then just Absolutely berating this tier. I think that that's the right way. I want to play things this week And to do that you really play one golfer below 9 000, which is kind of what I landed on Or you can play two You can sure But i'm just saying we're we're getting to be on the same page took took us Hey different different ships same destination same port. I don't know. I think would that work Is that a thing? No, I made it up. Okay. I like it So I changed I changed it on the fly to port because I think that the the different was different ship new port. Was it called? What Different ship new port whatever you did is better than different ships to the same things pocket queens Which brings us to your next mid-range pick No, nothing. Nothing is better than saying you got six cards in your in your in your in your hand Leading to cheating. Yes. Yeah, that is The biggest baller move, uh, and I'm still on jason coke rack, especially at 9100 This is good evidence too of like, you know jason coke rack would probably be I don't know. I don't know. I'm going with this because 97 and like a Feel like a full field. That's not quite this strong Um, he's 91 this week. So a lot of savings there And he's doing a all with a putt not all but the improvement really comes from the putting and that's usually a red flag for us But this is like long term Improvement in putting not like a three week sample where oh, this guy's been top 10 three weeks. Let's play him again He's doing it all with putting it's different He is very good, uh tea to green The wedge plays bad 21st percentile over the past year But 81st percentile in stroke skiing ball striking. So off the team approach I was top 16 in 2013 and 2019 at this course And he did that by gaining top to a ranking top 10 in strokes gained tea degree in each of those I considered coke rack for this spot very in on him very okay with him and we'll be here for sure My mid-range pick outside of paul kasey is cori connors because we talked the whole podcast So bumping up short game So who else would I discuss other than cori connors who saw his flaws? But he's at least getting better and he's just $9,300 this week conners Has slipped back into some old habits with some rough short play recently But still managed to have some pop events he gained 2.1 around the green at the u.s. Open 2.2 putting at the memorial and having the ability to have those weeks like you were talking about j.t Is how you get upside and he at least can do that He's not an active negative every event there pretty close to every but not quite It's especially helpful that conners Doesn't need to do much there to feast he just has to not suck because the ball striking will be very good He ranks ninth in the field off the t 10th in approach He can navigate his way around the hazards at this at this course If he were higher salaryed I would nitpick more about the short game issues, but he's 9-3 I can live with it. Uh, what are your thoughts on cori conners this week? Yeah, I mean he's in that that conversation But for me the gap between walkie neiman and cori conners is a lot bigger Than a hundred dollars in salary even though neiman is 65 to one of vandal sportsbook and conners is 60 I much prefer neiman And I prefer Probably going down to coke rack as well I was gonna ask if you have interest in a neiman versus conners had to head I don't think conners is great for a head to head format is the issue conners versus coke rack I don't think about it. Yeah, bro. It's it's we got three weeks left in the season. You're up by 13 Exactly, if you were to have bets, I do the better. I'm not stupid. We're not gonna do 13 bets I'd have to go 13 for 13. You don't know that We do like oh, you could you could totally like pepper these in here. I don't know what you're gonna do You're unhinged. He's unhinged. So I gotta hand I got rom Uh minus lane three against tringale. So that's a win. I was joking. Don't put that down Uh too late also was true. It should have been tringale minus three for being realistic Tringale should not be the underdog here. Anyway, let's move down to the value tier. Who do you like down there? Uh, well, you had paul kasey in the mid tier so i'm gonna go with patrick can't um I was just trying to buy time because I was typing in uh the the head to head. I have charlie hoffman So i'm actually going really low here. This goes a little bit against what I Had been talking about but You have stroom. Well, I don't want to tip your hand, but i'm streaming in tringale. People know this by now It's not hard to figure out So as long as we have those guys mentioned, I think rustle henley is also worth a mention at 9 000 But i'm gonna go two guys. I think who have appeal At the very very low end. That's charlie hoffman. Uh, number one at 8300 He's made the cut here all three years that he's played Making him one of four golfers as it mentions the top of the show Uh, a lot of that date is old But the current forums still really good He does have a weakness and that's the around the green play But that's always the least important for me on that could get him into trouble because of the the bunkering but overall, uh You know a fine baseline sort of potter on bent grass and 93rd percentile and adjusted approach play over the past year So i like hoffman plenty at 8300 I think you should I think that he is a good player I think that if you want to go with just one guy below 9 000 Hoffman would be the one guy I would go to because I need a little bit extra flexibility there he is lower sour than strelman and tringale and I still like the The range of outcomes on hoffman. I think is very good So I would say if you want to go with just one value play hoffman grades out really well in that discussion specifically strelman is someone I like a lot here at 8600 dollars not good with the short game But he's also not a disaster and the ball striking should be good ranks 30 second off the tee in 23rd and approach strelman 51st around the green so In your uh in your sheets not a red flag there and the putting has been trending up He's now 89th and bent grass putting It's at least making it less of a known like a baked in negative that he'll lose strokes And that's a big plus. It does help both his floor and his ceiling quite a bit So I like strelman 8600 dollars and it sounds like you're in on him as well, correct Yeah, uh 70th percentile in uh adjusted strokes game ball striking over the past year That makes him one of six golfers below 9 000 to rank that high We know that the ball striking is the reason to play kevin strelman I think there's at least an angle that you could play a lot of the best ball strikers together in case The greens do prove really difficult to hit now if it is wet and soggy that should Kind of neutralize that but if people are expecting that I don't know how often and to what degree people really Go that far, but um, I think it's an angle to go with just the best iron players And that's probably not going to lead you astray that often anyway. So I think that's a fair thing for this week Uh, who else do you like here in the low range? I'm going to go with taylor gooch. Again. I think one of uh, gooch or hoffman in a lineup can really open things up Still gets you access to a romer speeth or a zander. Whoever you like up there Um, and then a lot of those golfers in that mid-range, but uh, gooch ranks is the third best long-term golfer in my model Below 9 000. Uh, his salary doesn't really reflect that because he's all the way down at 7 800 He's in the 62nd to 71st percentile in approach around the green and putting Over the past year so that you know fairway through green number All pretty good all positive positive bentgrass putter And he's 34th overall in my stats and form combo model for the week Do you buy or sell the comp that taylor gooch is a bargain store cameron tringale? I mean sure Because like they're both not great off the tee, but they do well elsewhere, you know I think that works this week, right? I would say enough. Yeah, um Look, yeah, talk to me about tringale then. Okay, I haven't heard about him yet Yeah, uh, I know you'll be shocked to hear. I like cameron tringale this week at $700 Again minus three versus john rom tringale Not great off the tee which is a bummer But may not matter as much this week and the rest of the game really nice. He ranks 26th in approach 15th around the green 38th and bentgrass putting tringale finished 26th at the open So he can hang with some tougher fields That was sandwiched between top 16 finishes the rocket mortgage and 3m open $8700 I think that his floor is good because he's so well rounded And he has a path to a ceiling in an event where All of the tee play may not matter as much. So tringale to me I think he's locked from my cash game lineup and I I want to be there for tournaments too Any final thoughts for you brin on tringale or this tier? Uh, I we covered it all tringale is one of the best value plays of the week Okay, so let's finish up with your win picks. Technically you're dusting me so Because there are three events left. I could sell out to like, you know, just pick long shots and hope they win I'm not going to do that. That's very stupid process and especially an event like this I don't think a long shot is going to win. So I don't care about beating you. I just want to get I want to be right So win picks for this week. Who you got? Well, uh, well, I was going to turn to 10 to 1 by the way while we were talking Okay, um I mean, I think we both have someone in common. So I won't yeah, I won't take Jordan's beef here Fine, I don't care. I mean again, I don't care about beating you. I just want to be right And I think that speed is the right pick this week um Then let's well, okay, I'm not gonna take them though for this. I'm not gonna take them for the sake But I'm gonna go to Victor Hovland to start Uh, he is now 31 31 And then I will go with So we're gonna go speed Just do it. I don't know. I'll go speed. Okay. So we're both on speed You have Hovland at 31 to 1 um Okay, so my two considerations Are just in thomas at 27 and patch created 35 I'm gonna go just in thomas at 27 because I think that he is longer than he should be given how good the approach plan has been given that he Can have pop weeks as a putter. I think that that number is just too long. So to me It's uh, the three best friends that anyone could have Jordan's piece jesson thomas victor hovland the win picks for this week at the northern trust brandy any final thoughts for you Before we close up shop for today Now, I think we're pretty comprehensive. I was it is an important week to be comprehensive talk about how deep the field is But maybe not so deep that we really Like load up on those value plays because they're gonna have to beat out a lot of strong golfers Even that 9 000 tears really really strong. So Uh, I like the value you like the value, but I'm saying Scale back how many value golfers we have per lineup We can like a lot of individual guys and still say You want only one max of two per lineup? And I think that's a good thing to keep in mind this week Had a good some good process based questions over on the fandal youtube page while we're recording for today If you want to quiz brandon, uh about PGA dfs process betting stuff Make sure you come back here today 3 30 p.m Eastern on the fandal youtube twitch facebook and twitter pages brandon's taking your questions for half an hour there I'll follow up with an mlb dfs q and a after that So make sure you're subscribed there But also make sure you are subscribed to the number fire daily fantasy podcast feed We've got mlb UFC and nascar podcast right now But also nfl twice a week just around the corner brandon's psyched for the the monday recap podcast So I can tell already gonna be a fun time So make sure you hit subscribe wherever you get your podcast and while you're there leave us a rating and review as well Uh brandon people have questions for you on twitter. Where can they find you there? 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