 I would like to see that I think for us to talk about, I saw it a little bit down here, but I'm not sure how this would go about. So let me say it now. I do think the person who serves in the interim should not run. The reason I'm saying this is because during this five-month period, or six-month period months it is, they need to be focused on what's going to be happening and the resources that are in and out, going in and out, they've gotta pay attention. If you've got someone who tends to run, they're going to be focused on getting a life for the next time. So I do think that if there is somebody who wants to be appointed in the interim, they should not run for the council sheet. We'll address that in the probe. I'm gonna go back here and then I'm gonna go on this side. We're talking right now of characteristics and skills. I know. I think we skipped enough to see. See? Oh, type of work experience, okay? All right, so what type of work experience would you like to see? No, I mean, as a group, we can talk about it. Okay, good question. Thanks for checking. Appreciate it. Type of work experience, does that matter? Does that matter? If it matters, so most people are saying no. Doesn't matter, one person says no. So raise your hand if you think the type of work experience matters. Yeah, yeah, I think it does. Yes, yes, it works, it really matters. Yes. What type of work experience matters? Does the type of work experience matters? Well, this individual's gonna take to see whether you're a bookkeeper, whether you're a accountant, whether you're a responder, whether you're a teacher, whatever, does that matter? Take a moment. 90 minutes, take a moment. All right, take your moment, don't take it. Take a moment, don't take it. Don't do that, don't do that, all right. Specifically about that, we lose from there, you won't do that right now. Well, I think, okay, we'll address this question. The type of work experience matters based upon the fact that the cross sections of the neighborhoods of East Side San Antonio means that you will be represented more than one working class of people, whether it is master electricians, or whether it's school teachers or teachers' aides, or whether it's persons with accelerated degrees. That type of work experience comes within an organization or comes within cross sections of the community. And the short version of? You have to be able to work with various different levels of people. So it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter to some, but it matters to a certain degree as to how successful the person is going to be, because in that position, you're gonna have to pull together various different levels of people. So if you only have a bookkeeper's experience, or you only have, you know, a custodian's experience, you're not gonna be able to do the same thing because you haven't had that point of reference of the work experience. So it doesn't matter. So one second, one second. I think this is a great dialogue. I'm gonna get in the corner and then I'll get to this. Gentleman in the corner, you raised your hand. I was on the city council in another city. And oh, okay. Well, I'm used to talking to a bunch of people. I used to work for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice and I'll let sure people, you know, quit 50 or 60 at a time. So I have a tendency to not need a microphone. I was on the city council in another city and at the time I worked for the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. And that really had nothing to do with my duties as a council member. A council member is part of the city council. They have to agree with each other no matter what kind of work they do in order to get anything accomplished. Beautiful comments, sir. I love to have two different sides of the equation so everybody can make their own decisions. So Liz and then this gentleman in here. Going back to the work criteria, in the totality of the person, the actual physical, I don't know if I need that either. In my opinion, work experience can be substituted for community work, board work, previous council experience because remember what we're trying to do here in my mind is hold the place until those best candidates decide what they're gonna do and bubble to the top. That's what I'm looking at. The totality. Yeah, the entire person. If you've got some community experience, if you're well known, if you've gone to citizens to be heard, if you've been a previous council person, if you don't want to run because you don't need a job, I'm looking at you. That's the one I can't vote on, y'all. Best candidate to come forward in May to serve the district for the next two years. See the beauty of dialogue, you got to walk out of here. Just want to put it this way here and then we'll close this session now. No, right here. So their work experience. Stand up to the folks in the back and hear you. Work experience or the type of work you do cannot dictate whether or not you would be a good council member. If a janitor wants to fight for the community I live in, then yes, please by all means do it because that CEO may not really be interested. It's not about what it is that you do for a living. It's what you want to do so we can live better. They say like oh, what teacher can do that or janitor can do that. If that teacher or that janitor wants to make district two a better place, then they absolutely can do that. So the fact that a person has worked in their life is important, but what type of job they do is not really all that important because it's not what they have done is what we need them to do that matters. And I would rather a person not have such a commanding job because I need them, their focus to be on district two. Right. We've got to call you in a few days and have to meet you. Yeah, I do. I do. I think the only thing I would say is not about work experience. I interview a few hundred percent. I just want to make sure that the person that we choose isn't beholden to their previous work as far as being real estate developing where it might take advantage of residents because that's something that's really important to me is to make sure that the person is for working on behalf of the district and the community and not necessarily on previous financial interests that they might have. So I think that that's really important to consider that which would be the only type of work experience I think that would be something worth noting. It's like, what do people stand to personally benefit from? The people have spoken. The people have spoken. So I'm going to rephrase the question. I'll get to one point. Just one point. Very short. Go for it, sir. Six members of the city council are going to make this appointment in January. Correct. They're either going to make it with this community support or not. Correct. And that's why it's so extremely important what you're doing. Because I, for one, am sick and tired of six other people not related to district two at all making selections about who our leaders are. Thank you. We'll get back to our agenda. Appreciate that, sir. All right, so I'm going to read. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. With regards to the economics, I heard people say that the leadership doesn't matter with regards to certain experience level. Most of you are aware that there are 35 different turrets in the city, 35 of them. District two's turrets, which is membered by district one. Describe the turrets. Describe the turrets. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I'm making it. I'm just going to try and move on. Okay. The short birds, you can't. Short birds. Short birds. Okay, short birds. Tax and finance are home. There's 35 of them, real investors. There's 35 of them. The one in district two, the inner city turrets, is the largest. It has $18 million in it, okay? So what you need to understand, your leadership person, the person we select, not just this five months, but going forward, quarterbacks, they are the chair, person, or lady of that seat. They control the economics. The reason why we have so many problems in district two, besides the crime element, is that we don't have enough money circulating in our community. That's right. We've got to turn up the fire or get more money circulating in our community. The turrets can do that. So that person, he or she, is very important and they need to understand how the turrets work because if not, then staff will just influence your decisions because you won't be sharp enough to move money to the street of district two. Well then we just have to make them smarter about what that is. It's not that easy. It's not that easy. No debate, ladies. No debate, no debate. You can't just make it because there are certain guidelines that the turrets have. So we have to know the game before you get to the table. Thank you, Kim. You can rest yourself. Thank you. Thank you, Liz. Okay. Y'all heard the valuable discourse. Beautiful discourse. That's just, you know. So now let's get back to your question. And the question is the type of work experience. If you are in favor of a certain work experience, please raise your hand. If it doesn't matter to you, you keep your hand down. If you're in favor of a certain work experience, raise your hand. The majority said they don't care. Okay. Got that? Doesn't matter. Work is the type of it, doesn't matter. Let's close that part of it. So the summation of it is that we want someone with at least a high school diploma. We want someone that is full-time on a job, don't have a second job, okay? Someone who has knowledge of the community. The length of residency is at least 10 years, anywhere from six to 10, okay? They've provided services in the district. They've also, the non-political service doesn't matter. That community service, that activist or whatever, okay? And they have good communication skills. Are we all in agreement? Yes. Those are in agreement, raise your hand. We have unanimous support for what we've just laid out. That is what we want to move forward to the council as part of our group, really, in terms of what we're looking for. I have a quick question. You know what would be helpful too, for people to talk about, say who you are. No, I don't. Oh, okay, go ahead then, I'm sorry, go ahead. So what's gonna happen to the staff? We don't worry about the staff. Yes, we are. I am gonna worry about it because they are the right hand of Sean and they have been the ones that have helped us to make this thing. They have no teeth. And it's the staff. So what's gonna happen to them? I believe, you know, first of all, I can't stay here, to stand in front of you and say the guarantee anything. But I think if that's one of the issues, that fits on the others. That we'd like to have staff maintain. Okay, let's put that as one of the other desires. He has no teeth, the staff. So we would want that person to do their best to employ the existing staff. It's a beautiful one. Can we go to that? Okay, all right, I'm sorry. I got caught up in a moment. All right, let's listen to the question. There's gonna be two questions. Is there a desire to ensure that our new district two leader keeps the staff in place or not? It just, you know, select who they want. All right, so the first question is the existing staff, we will put forward to that whoever selected that they maintain the existing staff. If that is your desire, raise your hand. One more question. Are you talking about in the interim? The interim. In the interim, that's all in the time real quick. In the interim and keeping your existing staff. You may add it, let's just keep it the existing staff. Okay. Yeah, the interim. As long as they're competent, let's put the cap, let's put the cap down. As long as they're competent. Now I'll keep you, and if you're not carrying on my directives, then we may have an issue. All right, all right, one meeting, please. We want to respect the process, Mr. Karen's been in the corner, and Mr. D, okay. Right. All right, beautiful. Any other issues, that's why I love community input because those things we don't think about are every round of the time. Anything else, okay. Did you say that the person can't have another job? Right, we want to support 100% of this particular. That's asking a lot. What do you mean? We are asking a lot. We're not supposed to be asking a whole lot. All right, welcome. Jordan says, we have a priority on the type of issue. That's next. The district truth is. That's next, I think that's perfect. Thank you. All right, if you look at item number seven, ranking of community issues, we passed out some little sheets so we can collect, but as you can see, and guess what, we've got the word other, so if there's other issues you think are important, we want to address those also. So we're going to go through this pretty quickly. Because we really want to get to the folks who have an interest in running are here. And you may be able to hear from some people that have an interest. For those of you who think housing is priority number one, raise your hand. Come on out, people. Come y'all be in influence, okay. All right. Number one, isn't your number one, isn't your number one issue? Okay, all right, you got that number, normal? All right. All right, let me find a little bit better. I think that's great. Great clarification. Affordable housing. Affordable housing. Show of hands again. Show of hands for affordable housing as your number one. As your number one, let's be clear. As your number one. And the things that go with that. Yeah, just affordable housing, but the stabilization of long-term residents and the stabilization of affordable housing. Yeah, thank you. All right? All right, we've got a number. I mean that's, we're talking about your number one is property tax reform. Property tax reform. Is that your number? You got two number one. I got a couple. Okay. Hey, we've been headless for a minute. All right, property tax reform. Your number one. Number one. I'm surprised there's more. Well, I'm going the way that property tax doesn't go with housing. Right. Yes. Of course. I think that needs to be a little bit more of a. But that's getting into the weeds now. What should we talk about? No doubt they come together. Taxes and property is the one of the same. What I'm saying is, let's talk about your number one. We got number one that we need to address. Property tax. All right. You got your number. Everybody. Your number one. All we're looking at is issue ranking. That's it. We can get a more discussion in a minute. All we're looking at is issue ranking. You want this individual to focus on property tax reform. Is that the number one issue? May I have something? Is it possible for you to list a few of those? Because what we're starting off with only one to consider. They're on here. Right. They're on here. And they're on there. They're on there. They're on two pieces of paper. That's what happened when you got a little bit. That's what happened. That's what happened when I was on fire. Now I'm going to have to have some agony, yeah. Come on. Just to comment, so our property taxes, that's more of a state's influence, right? Versus a local. Working together with the city. For the school district. For the school district. Yeah. Property taxes, okay. Yeah, it's several entities. Yes, ma'am. You know how you do it. Did you sign in? The issues with the food court, maybe I can do a good clarification. I'm very, very sorry. The issues we want to put forward were our new district two leader and some priority items and how they should be ranked. Okay? Representative. Yes, sir. The number one issue for me is the hostel. We don't have a hostel. So that's another. That's it. That's not what it is that it should be. Okay, I'm going to go around. I'm going to probably eat. But now remember that if you're number one, we're getting the group think going on. Thank you for that though. We had it to the list. In this area and this other too. We don't have a hostel. We've added it to the other. Thank you for that, sir. Appreciate it. Number one issue for you as it is jobs. Okay. Number one issue for you, criminal justice. Reform. I would like to mention something here. People who can afford to post bonds, they post the bond and then they show up. So criminal justice reform at the top of your list. We're going to get into the weeds in a minute. Okay. So your hand is up. Criminal justice reform is your number one. Nope. Grazing. Community slash economic development. Is that your number one? Your number one. Do I got no money? Oh yeah. Alrighty. But you can't do the narrative right now. Right. What we should be to do is assist the back and forth to get through an agenda. All right, agenda. We can have all the sidebar conversations and additional conversations during the discussion. But if we get into sidebar conversations, we never do what? Give you the agenda. I got six minutes to do the same. Okay. Six minutes before what? 10 o'clock. Okay. Then we've got a lot of time for conversation because it's a good conversation. Something that's not on your agenda we want to add is your number one streets and drainage. Streets and drainage. So infrastructure. We'll put in some of your past dollars. The attendant, the past dollars, a little different. Infrastructure. Okay. Hands. Hands for infrastructure is your number one. One, two, three, four, six. Okay. Sidewalks. That's it. But we are going. All right. Economic development. And then we're going to go to dance deal hospital slash house. Of course you can. Homelessness. Homelessness. Ooh, that's a great word. Okay. Okay. That's number one. Anyone for homelessness is your number one. I'm changing mine. I want to be with her. I want to be with her. I want to be with her. I am a homeless person. Let's count this first and then we'll get into this two. Whenever you raise your hand to ask a question and then max it out. No, don't count me. Okay. Homelessness. Two. Two. Okay. Three. Three. Okay. Mr. Dr. Jetta. Neighborhood crime. Shootings. That was on the criminal justice. Criminal justice. Reform. Yes. It's a big problem. Okay. It's a big problem. Under these are subcategories. Okay. Okay. Chuck, did you have any other you wanted to add? Poverty. Poverty. Put Frank on with this. Are we going to go with these? Put Poverty. He said Poverty. I agree with that. All right. I see you have a lady here. Development. Okay. New buildings. Economic. Economic. Economic. That's the large economics. Is that we go along with like city codes and full development. Community. Community. Shown as zoning. All subcategories are going to work. Are we going to turn these down? You will. So this is a good question. One meeting. One meeting. The question is how are you going to turn these in? You're absolutely going to turn these in. Pink and you can do it anonymously. See for yourself what your name is. All right. Any other issues? Drug dealers. I don't know if that's the case. All right. So we're moving through our agenda item number eight. Ooh. All right. Let's talk about the summation again. The issues of priority. It looks like affordable housing was number one. Community economic development was number two. Workforce development and job, oh, I'm sorry. Criminal justice reform was number three. Workforce development slash jobs was number seven. Seven. Seven. The next one. Number four. Number four, I'm sorry. And infrastructure. Infrastructure. Number five. So we want to put those four as, what the community has for it. All right. Item number, any other issues before we move up? We'll go ahead and move on from this. Yes, sir. It may come under community and economic development, but what I believe our council person should do is be able to hold the residents accountable who are the resources that already exist and that are coming in to the east side and to district two. So somebody give me a subheading for that. Somebody help me out. Accountability. Citizen accountability and involvement. There needs to be checks and balances anyway, or we wouldn't be having this conversation. I don't think about that one though. Community engagement. Yeah. Yeah, of course the malls are over there. I hear you Mr. Nims, I'm just trying to figure out what's in the subheading. And I need help, but what I see in our community is there are resources that have been put in place by both political and other leaders and other organizations in our community, and we want more without using the one, the resources that we already have. So it's maximizing our existing resources. Right. There you go. And if we're not getting this accountable, that's what we're going to do. Oh, okay. It's not nonprofits accountable. Not just nonprofits, service providers in general. Right. So it's accountability. All right. You got an emergency and you just got an app right here. Got it. Accountability. And then one other thing we forgot, which is the big one, nobody brought up, yeah. I'll put you at this second. Education. Education. Okay. Young lady? Just to clarify a little bit more as to what I'm interpreting from what Mr. Nims is saying. With the, I'm thinking more of monitoring and evaluation of programs. Right. We've got a lot of resources in VISTA too, but a lot of that may have come from places where in which we thought of a good idea in a silo and we didn't make this accountable. Right? It fits on their accountability. It fits on their accountability. Yeah. That's the stuff that we're accountable for. Bear with it? Yeah. I did want to just divert a little bit from what Mr. Nims said. The reason why I said maximizing our resources, because what we end up doing is duplicating a lot of what we have. And then we have a little bit of stuff going on that it's barely eating out living. So that's why I'm saying maximize what we got, figure out how we do that so we get stronger in doing what we do. And then I'll tell you how we can get that done. Okay? I think it is important that our elected leadership, our organizational leadership, our HOAs, we have if not at least a monthly or bimuffly or quarterly meeting need to come together and guess what? Create good communication. That's right. Okay, so put that on there, communication. That our leaders, the citizens of this community said mandate that our leaders come together and have dialogue so that we can do the things that you're talking about. So people are not working in silos, but are working together for the greater good. Does the Gabriella look like you bought the bust out of it? This is what I want, San Diego is just a Gabriella, I live here in the neighborhood. And I apologize for being late and I didn't mean to be disrespectful, but I got lost. Can you believe it? Come out from my house. No. No. No. This is what I'm looking at and I'm looking at both sides. Oh, yes. We are, oh, I'm terrible, so just have a sit down. We, everything is three and two and one and seven. We are not organized ourselves. We should have this meeting, one, thank you sir. We should have a meeting like this once a month. That's right. This is what's wrong here. We are one once education. This one wants that and I'm on all sides. I mean, I want everything for here. Who will lead? The first thing we need to do is get somebody in this neighborhood. I don't mean, we don't need, come here and fight. And when they ask this question, I wouldn't put anybody in that city council that wouldn't stand up to talk. We need to tell everybody, you know a lot of you, to call me. I got to hear four calls to be here. Would we need, would we need, you know, I'm not going to run. Yes, let's do it. I'm not going to run, so I can't run. But, and I don't, you know, put me on this side. I know a lot of you and you know me, but we need to stand up. And if you're not standing up in this room, you're ain't going to stand up in city hall. What does she need to say? I think we need to be on the list. We need to fight. Yes, we need to fight. That's right. Okay. 17 days since the governor-in-chief. All right, our deep discussion. We'll take a deep dive after we get through our agenda. I'd like to add something to the previous. Okay. There already is an organization that does that. I meet once a month, it's called the Eastern Triangle. It's an umbrella for 16 homeowners association. And it's already there. All we got to do is attend the meeting. So last year is here for every month. Is it only for homeowners? Is it for all residents or just homeowners? All residents. Two and three, right? All residents. Districts, two and three. We got to get our, we got to get our trains going, too. Okay. All right. All right, thank you, sir. Appreciate that. We're going to go to question number eight. And then as we dive a little deeper, we're going to put a little birdie message in my ear. It's a thing we're going to talk a little bit more about. All right, let's look at item number eight, we have the agenda. Will it is to serve until May or after? So let's take a minute. Let's keep our apology right now before we make a final decision. Let's make sure we're very strategic here. Let's talk about the pros and the cons to someone just serving in the interim or someone who's looking at the interim and long term. Now, I'm not going to take any questions on this one. We're going to do a, what we call a round robin bullet. And you stand up, you put your position and then we'll add it to the list. All right, we're going to address the pros first. The pros will be just serving in the interim only and not wanting to run for the long term. What's the pros to that? Please be recognized through your hand, not no one's trimming out. Excuse me, what's that one I know? Someone, a previous person, said she wouldn't run and then she did. She's not here today. I'm saying, they changed their mind. That's right. They lied. Who want to put it grand gently? Sure. Be sure of your position. I love that, Rose. Thank you. Well, since I brought this up, the reason why and I, He's talking to pros now. Pros, pros, focus, you said earlier. Pros, and I'm going to do is pros to only be for the interim. Yeah. They'll only work in there and not run after them. Okay, then this is, and I'm speaking on the right point. I have been elected official as this gentleman. I'm sorry. Our version, okay. What happens when people get there? If they are planning to run, they end up spending all of their time campaigning and they will not make a decision. They'll be afraid on which way to go. We need somebody very focused who can catch up. We're already behind the A-ball. So we need focused attention. And we can also then give us time to organize to really get our great candidate in for the long haul. Isn't it just a few months of the interruption? Yeah, it's just a few months. They will be running in math. So it's four months. Yeah. Six months when they're seated, they won't be seated until July as part of the show. Okay. I mean, yeah, the new person will be seated until July. Any other pros to just serve in the interim? I heard, we're barely seated with focus. Liz? Yeah, that would be the opportunity for the entire community to see because we're working right now. We have an opportunity for the entire community to bet the best candidates. Absolutely. Time to bet is a pro. Okay. Anybody else? You can also use it as a training if you want to run later on. Training is a pro. Yeah. I love the round robin here. We can ease it. Community engagement. Community? Community engagement. That's true. And four months. Okay. That's right. They get to know the community. All right. Pros to the... Ethnicity should not matter as long as you're focused on the job. But it wouldn't matter. It will be. Hold on now. Wait a minute. Everyone has their... We're not going to jump on people for a piece of it. Ethnicity should not matter as long as you're focused on the job. Okay. Ethnicity should not matter as long as you're focused on the job. You don't have the ability to fundraise so your interests are the community, not the other interests. I'm here in a con. That's a con. Not ability to fundraise. No, that's a pro. Because your vacancy is under control. Your loss is only to anyone. You know what? I can't hear 10 people. I can't hear 10 people. Don't even say what you're saying. If you're feeling the vacancy, you can't fundraise or have a treasurer so you're beholden to the community. Not. Isn't that an assumption? Well, you can't... You have your position. You can't focus on it. You're not allowed to fundraise. You're not allowed to fundraise. You're not allowed to fundraise. Hold up, y'all. Let's stay focused. What time is that? I'm going to do my teacher stuff with a bubble in a jar. With a bubble in a jar. So, for clarity, what's possible? Wait just a second. To feel the vacancy, you're not able to appoint a treasurer or to fundraise. So, you're not beholden to any other interest but the community. Then, if you're running a campaign, you're taking checks from businesses or lobbyists or whoever. It's a pro. It's a pro. But it's under control. Hold it to the community. Hold it to the community is what you're saying. All right. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Middleman. Thank you, Dunn. Appreciate it. Okay. I will just remind this, if people came in late, they didn't even know what we're doing. And we're looking at the interim position, the appointed position, the pros and cons for whoever is selected to be only looking at that interim position. Okay. Any other pro? Any other cons? Since we're going back and forth. Let's go ahead. I know you said we weren't going to answer a question but do we actually have influence with Cruz on this selection process? I do. Do we need to all show up and just ask it? We have to do a combination. Okay. I believe that the voice of the people is important. Okay. And I believe that the councilman and the city council and the mayor will listen to the voice of the people. Now they're the final decision makers and I would hope that once the decision is made, they're able to tell the people why they made that decision. Thank you. And that gets to our accountability piece. Thank you. Okay. Do they owe it to us? No. Okay. Well, I think it's kind of... But we can politely ask. Okay. Politely. Thank you. All right. You're doing the polite part, right? You know what? It's the same. You get more with honey and the sugar and the vinegar and salt and what's that other thing? Any other... Anyone wants to add? Okay. So summation. The pro is it allows us individuals to be focused. It gives the community time to drown for them for the future. And they can be more community focused with community engagement and not campaigning why they're there. Barbara, there... I'm sorry. This is correct you. What Liz said was not time to vet. She said it would give time for the community to organize so we can actually find a great candidate for the long-term. Well, but you know, the point about that was to say that the interperson isn't a great person. Yeah, but that interperson has got to make a decision. They're either serving the community or they're serving for the next position. Right. That's what she said. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying... All right. So there's differences of opinion. Yeah. And that's a good one. That's democracy. At work. Can we stop talking about... Hold on one second, sir. We want to respect this individual speaking. Sir. Are we still saying that that interim person cannot be elected further? Some people are saying not everybody. Some people are saying that. Because that person could be the person we're looking for. Right. And it ought to be whoever's going to stop from that point on, you know, at the point that they need to be elected. They should be considered with somebody else that thinks that they can do a better job. All right. That's a great deal. And here's, I think, would be our statement too. Our leadership was going to make that appointment. I want you to hear this good now. Isn't the desire of the community that the individual who was appointed in May or we want to leave it open? Maybe not. We're going to take a vote. We're going to do the democracy. Okay. Alright. I'll get you first and then this. Go ahead. You're voting? Or what? She's beautiful. No, I just wanted to say that if you have that you could contact the other council people if you have an opinion about it. Oh, she did. Of course she did. I'm loving you how this is going. Thank you. You're being good, aren't you? I think there's one thing that needs to be considered here is that it makes no difference. The reason I say that is four months, I can't get my feet wet. I can't even learn the names of city staff within that period of time. So the bottom line is whether they run or not, they should be ignorant from day one, pretty much. Beautiful. So here's our vote. Here's our unanimous, hopefully, decision to move forward to the council. And Tyrone, I want you to put a piece of paper up there across and then we got to really count this. Okay. Interim open. Interim only or keep it open. Okay, beautiful. And we want you to count your hands, y'all. Can I say something real quick? Of course you can. We keep saying four months, six months. The person who wants to be the interim only really has one month to make the decision because you have till February to decide. So at the end of the day, it's really not either or because that person isn't going to have time to decide. So let's not look at it as they're in there for six months and then we're going to see if they want to keep the seat. It's really only about 30 days. So let's be realistic when we think about how we're going to say interim only or keep it open. But today, we want to be able to give our electors our opinion. They're going to make the decision. But part of our voice is as they're making their decision and they will ask the person, do you plan to run in the future, right? And that person may say no. And they come very repeatedly. You didn't motorize. So can we control that? No. All we're doing is trying to lay out desires. That's all we're doing. I'm seeing this question mark on your face. No, no. I just have concerns about that. Interim person being kind of a lame duck. I don't have a message beyond that. I got you. And then we have to restart again and try to find the person that we want in there. Yes, it is. We already have a low bar for the leadership. High school education. We're going to be overwhelmed and struggling to figure out just what's going on. It's our position. That's not fair. It's not a matter of fair, y'all. One thing we've got to be clear in our community is we're moving forward. We're working together. And we're communicating. Everybody has their own opinion. And no one can say there's is right and the other person is wrong. We all have our opinion. And one thing we want to do in this community is that everybody has an opinion whether we agree with it or not. So that we can continue to work together not in anger or despair. I'm going to put this lady over here and switch the camera over to the other two. Well, I think part of the concerns would be that the person that's going to come out of the intro has to be talented and effective to go in there right away because it's going to be very important issues during this time. That if they're not effective and they get there and start doing the job without the worry that they're going to be attacked later that they might run, it doesn't matter because of the people who might run later feel they can't put their name in the basket for the intro because they will be chastised because they're going to run. Then you're losing the opportunity to be the most talented and the most effective person in there to get in there and start voting on things that are so important to our district because you're dealing with budgets. You're dealing with economic development. You're dealing with homelessness right now. They're dealing with your parks. They're dealing with everything they have to do. The agenda is not stopping. We can't put that terrible situation because they're going to feel they're going to get attacked because they're in there trying to be effective but then they can actually end up being effective. Point well made. I suppose my question would be what kind of a person would go in for 30 days? Who wants to go in for 30 days? I mean, would you like that? No. I mean, we want a strong person that knows now what they want to do. Point well taken. This is Gabrielle. That's right. Picking back on Joe's question or comment the con of selecting a person who only will be here for the interim promises to only be for the interim is we limit the talent pool available. Exactly. So, y'all have heard several positions of the matter. Are we ready to call for the panel? We're ready. Call the vote committee. Mr. Nell? You've just been shut down. We're getting ready to call for the panel. Are we ready? We want to be clear. A person that serves in the interim to be limited from serving or being our candidate in man. Raise your hand if that's what you want. You want to put the interim person you want to put the limitations on. Raise your hand. No. Beautiful. The interim has everybody to be our candidate in man. Number nine goes to questions and then number ten is adjournment and then, guess what once we're announcements and then when we're finished you can go out in the parking lot and do all and I have enjoyed being here today. And I enjoy talking to the community. Can we do it again? I think we should always be doing it. That's my desire. So, we're going to call for questions in a minute. Before you go to questions can we meet the person who you said were here? This is after the question. After the question. All right. Any questions? If y'all want to keep y'all questions low we can get people up. Go ahead Steve. As a community organization that operates in district two the question I have for someone who would be running to district two would be would be willing to share an overwhelming 80-90% city budget that's law enforcement heavy back into the community because we are funding vast incarceration in the public criminal justice system and we know this to be true because you've had several presidents and other candidates bring that up so we have to come to the realization that we cannot continue to fund 80% of our city budget and only 10% or 7% into the community. So that's what we're going to do. Now, here's what we're going to do because I think it's unfair to barrage people with a bunch of questions but what we will do is this since there is no other we will allow people who are interested in running and we'll give them a minute and a half just to introduce themselves to you. So that way you can see those people of interest. Are we going to have to go with that? Yeah, let's do it. So for those people who have an interest in running from concentration alright? Two minutes and a half? Two minutes.