 Next question is from Ty Leash. Can you guys talk about how deodorants, shampoos, et cetera, can adversely affect our bodies and what brands you guys recommend? Dude, I just read an article. We've been thinking about this. This is the coolest question just came out, right? I just read an article about this, it was an article, actually it was a case study of this boy who went to the doctor because he had really bad gynecomastia. So gynecomastia is the development of breast tissue in men or boys. Now it's not super uncommon for a teenage boy to develop some gynecomastia. This happens because they get this, yeah, their testosterone level spike up and some of that testosterone gets converted to estrogen. So having a little bit of that, super normal, actually most teenage boys will have a little bit of it, but this kid apparently had a lot of it and they couldn't figure out what was going on and the doctor was actually wise enough to look at the products that the kid was using to wash his hair with, his soaps, and his acne washes and stuff. Really? They did and they took them all out and the gynecomastia went down and that's because a lot of these chemicals that are in cleaning product, because we don't think of our skin as an organ, it's actually the largest organ in the body. We also don't think that stuff we put on our skin will actually get absorbed and affect the insides of our body, but it does, cosmetics, shampoos, soaps, lotions, things you put on your body, things you put in your body, feminine hygiene products like tampons and maxi pads, those things can sometimes have chemicals in them and over time they do get absorbed by the body sunscreens as another one and a lot of these chemicals act like weak hormones in the body, they're called Xenoestrogens and that means that the way that they're shaped, that they can actually affect hormone receptors in the body as if they were almost like a hormone, maybe not quite nearly as powerful, but over time you keep rubbing this stuff all over your skin or your makeup every day or whatever, slowly you start to see these hormone effects. Really it's the volume, right? It's that long-term exposure to these chemicals. It's not like the one officer gonna do that much damage, but if you start to think about all these different products and like how they all have different chemicals and they all interact with your body, it's just a matter of time to where all this volume is gonna add up to something problematic. Well, here's another one. This is one of those things that there's division in our space, right? You're either on the woo-woo side where you're like so anti all deodorant has aluminum, shampoo, makeup, all this stuff is so toxic, so poisonous, so bad and so extreme and then you have the other side that it's like, oh my God, you're splitting hairs, that bullshit's not gonna change the difference and really it's the way I look at it, because I had a friend of mine that were asking me this, right? They were talking about like, Adam, do you think it's really that important that we change our shampoo or deodorant or soap or if it's, the way I look at it is like, how hard is it for me to switch over to something like Dr. Squatch, right? Which is a brand that we have been looking for for over a year. We've been chasing these guys down and it's a all-natural soap and the smells are phenomenal. Like I love the soap. It's a great soap. It's not a hard leap for me to go from Irish Spring to going over to that because it smells great. It still works as just as well and the fact that I'm doing something that's all-natural, that's not loaded full of these chemicals, why the fuck not? And the same thing goes for these other things like shampoo, laundry detergent, like our other partner, this was another reason why we were hunting down public goods for as long as we were hunting public goods down is they have that for all your house supplies. If you're spraying it on your countertops, if you're putting it- Washing your hands. Yeah, washing your hands, your laundry detergent, your shampoo, like if it's not a hard leap for you to go from using a shampoo or a laundry detergent that is full of chemicals versus one that is not, why wouldn't you? It's not changing, it's not interrupting my life that bad that it's that big of a deal. And now we have companies where those products aren't even like way more expensive. It used to be way more expensive. Right, they used to be the big barrier. Yeah, well, okay, so I'll make I think a controversial statement. Okay, now this is considering that you're eating the right amount of calories, macros, and you're active. Those are the most important things, by the way, okay? That you do, you know, get good sleep, those kind of things. The chemicals that you need to pay attention to, it's actually more important, believe it or not, that you pay attention to the chemicals in your skin products and your makeup, than it is your food products, okay? And I know that sounds controversial, but here's why. The regulations that go into the chemicals in your food are way more stringent than the regulations that go into the products that you rub onto your skin or put on your face or use it for, feminine hygiene's a big one. Do you know that tampons, they're regulated like a textile? You know, they're not even regulated like a food, because it's not a food, but you're putting it inside your body and those membranes absorb, they're very, very porous and they're like their mucous membranes, right? They absorb quite a bit, but they're not regulated the same way. I'll give you another great example. I talked about this on a show recently. The sunscreens, the chemical sunscreens, the FDA says that there's a certain level of these chemicals that you can have in your body and above that is considered not safe, okay? They recently, that's after these sunscreens have been on the market forever, recently did studies and found that people that use these sunscreens, they had amounts of these chemicals stored in their body that were something like hundreds or thousands of times higher than the upper limit that the FDA gave them. So these things are just not regulated nearly astringently and so you combine all these things, yeah, you probably, you're gonna have some effects in your body and some of these are hormonal and look, I'm not gonna make this as a direct connection, but here's what we're seeing, okay? Testosterone levels now for a few decades have been dropping in men. Everybody's like blown up, they don't understand what's going on, but it's true, a 30 year old man today's testosterone levels are as low or high or whatever as like a man in his mid fifties in the 1970s, like that's a big, it's a consistent drop. Estrogen progesterone levels, it's very common now for women to have those out of balance fertility issues are common in both men and women and a lot of people think that some of it or a big part of it has to do with all these chemicals that were exposed to all the time just over the, it's not gonna hurt you if it happens once or twice, maybe not even for a year, but think about your favorite brands of shampoos and skin lotions and makeup and stuff that you've used for decades, right? Yeah, you mentioned makeup, I mean, I just recently even found out, I'm sure you guys already know this, but like some of the makeup that was actually had radioactive materials in it to where it was like eating away at people's flesh and they finally were like, oh, let's take this off the market, this is probably bad. How did that cope with your stare? I don't know, it was like, it was absurd, I couldn't believe it. This is why comic books lie to you, don't they? Is there any time you have radiation on you in comic books, you just get superpowers? Yeah, yeah, why didn't that work? I really think it's the onslaught of all of it, right? Totally. If you were to study one, and that's why they can get away with being on the market is that if you studied one of these things for a three or six month period of time and said, oh, this person used these tampons every single day for six months, we don't see enough of this. So, oh, they're fine, it passes. But when you start looking at all the things you use and you're, and the- Shampoo, toothpaste, deodorant, lotion. Yeah, and the assault of all of them- You're pelting yourself a little bit. You've gotta think that there's gotta be a compounding effect. And again, if it's not costing me a fortune, it's not changing my lifestyle that much that it's that drastic deal, why the fuck not? That's the way I look at it. And you're right, when this first came out and all the people that were making products like this were private, they were small, mom-paw, and so they had a charge and arm in a lay. It also smelled like patchouli oil. Yeah, exactly. No, so it was like, God, this smells gross and it's expensive as shit, like I'll take the aluminum and my deodorant, I'll take the fucking, whatever the Irish spring soap if it's got some chemicals. But now where we're at, the market demands push this where you have big companies like Public Goods and Dr. Squash that are able to deliver a product like this that's all natural and it's healthy and it's not assaulting you. And it's not super expensive. So that's my opinion on somebody who's considering that. It's like, if it's not that big of a leap, why wouldn't you do that? Absolutely.