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Actually I have two presentations with me and well one of those was not yet public when I wrote my you know text for the call for papers because that's what we announced about one and a half week ago and I kind of want to ask all of you with a show of hands what you want to see well I'm gonna try and do both presentations but obviously it's not gonna fit so I'm gonna ask all of you what you want to see first namely the presentation of next loud hub which is the new thing that we announced one and a half week ago or should that start with the presentation of the you know some apps essentially of next loud so who would like to first hear more about this next out hub thing that we introduced hence okay and who would prefer the apps stuff first you make it terribly hard because it seems to be a 5050 well then I will just then I will just make an executive decision will go for hub there we go right then welcome false-dembers that's me as you can see I still look like myself mostly at least my name is Joss I work for next loud I'm one of the people who started this whole game in 2016 I do marketing which is why they sent me to talk to all of you I'm the one who hates talking least or actually I kind of like it and what I'm gonna talk about of course today is next loud and excellent hub now I will walk you quickly through a little bit of the thoughts and ideas behind next loud and next let up before I get to the actual technical meet I hope that that will fit all your ideas of the world and if not then maybe you'll learn something new which is also good and usually when I talk about next loud I talk about privacy and what privacy means for an individual why it is important etc. and I've been given that talk here at first I'm ready a couple of times and some of you might have seen it already and I think with what's been happening lately in in the world of well tech you know the revelation of the revelation of stuff Facebook and Snowden and everything I kind of think that most of you already know why privacy is important and why there is an issue with putting all your data in the clouds as in with somebody else etc. so I'm actually gonna try and and bring the conversation to a slightly different level a little more well college strategic so today most of the data that we as Europeans create by walking around you create data on your phone location data by writing emails you create data by taking pictures you do almost everything we do these days creates data somewhere and that somewhere is usually well either here or there and only very little is is in Europe and this is not a scale because if it was to scale then the EU would actually be much smaller an estimate I read was that only 4% of the data that we generate stays in the EU the rest goes either under jurisdiction of American companies or is physically in in the US now of course this is mostly about who owns the data and controls it rather than where it physically is because we all know the cloud is everywhere right nobody can really say where it is not even these companies that run it themselves can pinpoint for every bit where it is and where the copies are and everything else so what's the issue with this now there's kind of a new term a new name for this and digital sovereignty is what you hear thrown around and in Germany they have been talking about is a fair bit and what they have done is to start a project called guy X next cloud is involved in that a little bit and and that's one effort of trying to deal with this now you wonder okay what is the problem with this okay privacy if you don't control your own data and then somebody else does then you know they know where you do where you live what you do and all this stuff and that has all the known implications for your life but what does this mean for us as Europe or for us Belgium or us as Germany or even for companies this has implications because what what happens with this data and is of course there's a lot of money being earned with it today but a part of what's being done with this is also that technology for tomorrow is being developed using our data from today yeah I mean what company in this world is best at recognizing faces in pictures Facebook why well we first gave them and then tagged for free for them all our pictures so they have an enormous database with faces and names attached and they can train neural networks better than any other company in the world so if you're a startup here in Brussels and you want to build an AI that is better at recognizing pictures where do you find a huge database of faces that are tagged and fully prepared can try to ask Google they probably won't give it to you they might even cite privacy concerns so you know there is a bit of an issue here right if we want to build the next generation of self-driving cars here in Germany the car manufacturers are in my opinion not doing a great job at this at the moment I feel they're falling behind it's a problem for Europe and if you want to build the next generation of self-driving cars we need data who is getting all this data at the moment and if you ever driven in a car with Android Auto it's bloody convenient right also at least I really like it but you know all the data is being streamed directly to the US they're already in a quite a nice position to build a self-driving car because they know where they are how fast they drive they know everything that's why Google Maps is so good they know everything European companies will not be able to compete and I mean if the German car industry goes down yeah in the next 10 20 years because well they won't sell cars individuals anymore but 90% of the cars will probably be sold to companies like Uber because people will stop driving their own car because I mean you get these cars that are self-driving that Uber lends to you for like very little money for an hour so owning a car I mean I don't know if you ever noticed but most young people I mean the 20s 25 people a lot of them don't own a car anymore a car ownership is going down like a rock and it's gonna continue like that so most cars are gonna get sold to five big companies and they will have a buying power that will squeeze the companies that make cars until they have almost no profit so they will stop innovating because you need money and profit to be able to innovate well and waste money on bureaucracy which also something really good at so no innovation in Germany no more profits being made in Germany all the companies that deliver parts for these cars are also gonna get squeezed because you know there are very little profits anymore so the innovation in you know other parts of technology that are being delivered for these cars is gonna get squeezed the impact on the European economy is gonna be huge yeah so we're not gonna be able to do cars anymore which one of the last things I guess Europe still produces and does reasonably well we're not gonna be doing any of the new tech stuff because all the data we would need for it is in the US or in China so what are we gonna do next I don't know buy the stuff from the others maybe yeah we're gonna become kind of a franchise for American companies so talking about strategic this is a problem and that we collectively have and businesses have this but also governments now this is what digital sovereignty is about and of course you know there is a problem yeah we're here at or a solution and we're here at FOSDM so obviously open source is definitely gonna be part of the answer to this but as you might know a lot of these neural network training technology and stuff this is already open source Google is happy to open source the the neural network software but not the training data of course so this is not completely the solution yeah one important thing is we need to take back control over our data we need to make sure that it's hosted here or at least under our control by European companies by Europeans or well at least under our control now obviously there are many technologies we need for that there will need to be networks of like open stack and that kind of stuff to store massive amounts of data the universities will start need to start to take more control over this data but of course one part is we will need to have a place where normal people can put their data where companies can put their data where they're editing documents and you know working together where they have video calls where you're chatting with other people where you're working with your calendar your contacts your mail well one of those obviously that's why I'm here is next slide yeah we are building an open source well platform where you can put your files and this is what you all know as next cloud that's the platform where you put your files you can share them with other people you cannot comment to your files etc etc and of course together with that you have a couple of other apps that always have been coming with next cloud and you have the photos app you have an activities app that you can see what happened to your files and we introduced some time ago another app that you could install if you wanted to which is next slide talk they can have video calls you can chat with other people and install a mobile app so you can call other people on your phone all via your own private next slide we have a mail client you have a calendar well contacts and a calendar app so these pieces are here and what we wanted to do was to change a little bit how next cloud presents itself because over time next cloud was like you have the files thing and then you install the others as apps yeah and what you then get you probably know is these apps in the top bar as you can see here on top now you have all these different apps yeah so the change we wanted to make was to actually move them as you just saw in this nice animation kind of on the same level next cloud is no longer about files yeah we are in 2020 everybody expects to also be able to have a chat to also be able to share a file in the chat room and edit it to attach a file to a calendar item so it's more become more and more important to have all the pieces in one place and this is essentially what next cloud hub is about yeah the new name is in the end just a change in how we present what you get when you install next cloud from now on there is a box on the bottom with a well checkbox that is checked by default that says install recommended apps and when you just continue click click next next what you will get is all of these apps you will be able to edit documents to share files but also to have a video call a chat create calendar read your email with standard next cloud now i'm going to go quickly through some of the changes in next cloud that we did on top of this this change of making it kind of a bundle and again you can still of course not install some of these apps and use all the pieces separate so well next cloud files that's for file management uploading downloading files searching well we have recommended files already for a while on top so if somebody commented on a file or shared a file with you you will immediately see it on top you don't need to drill down in folders and just find it there's a grid view tagging comments you can see what happens to your files and what well and the whole sharing of of course we have a new sharing sidebar but it looks rather similar to the old one except for some minor changes so i will skip that now one option that we recently added is that you can choose that every time a file is shared with you you have to accept it first if you get a lot of stuff shared with you that might not be nice but if it's not so much then this can be helpful and you have the ability to hand up ownership of a folder or a file to somebody else that it's really not just shared with them but actually they own it now that can be nice if you move in between projects for example in a company or in a team now the other big thing that we did is we call it workspaces or smart workspaces and what it is is above your folder is now a place where you can essentially put contacts with that folder so you can explain what the folder is for what it is about and you know you can go pretty far you can put the do list there you can even put files in it and an image and other things so if you're working with a group of people on the whole folder structure you can actually explain what each folder is for so that your colleagues stop putting the wrong file in the wrong folder you know you're always looking for the contract some person puts them there another one puts them there well you can now yell at them right there on top and this is also available on mobile so on your android phone you can also see this you can also edit this space and it's even collaborative editor it's built on next slide text which we introduce in next slide 17 so when you're editing that field and somebody else start editing it too no problem you're just both editing at the same time you see it's other making changes you can even see the other persons in there and again also works on mobile so it's a complete collaborative solution we introduced file locking I mean most of you probably know what that is you can lock a file so that others know that you're working on it and then of course they can ping you on the chat and say hey why did you lock the file how long is it going to take and when are you ready that's where it gets of course really nice now I have a nice video where I show all of this in action but because of time I'm going to skip that sorry I'll play a video at the end but it'll be a short one so photos we essentially rewrote the gallery app to make it a lot faster and nicer to use of course it still looks largely similar except you have now these nice sidebar and when you're viewing a file you can actually have a sidebar on the side so you can well even have a video call to discuss a file if you want nice thingy is that there's this community app called maps which is essentially kind of a google maps replacement and that there's integration with the file with the photos app so that you can actually see your photos based on the location where they were taken next about talk it's a well put your chat in one place the decent or centralized decentralized chat in a way and well we rewrote user interface here it mostly is a lot snappier but it's also nice that for the millennials among us which probably most we now show emojis a bit bigger you know colors there's a reply feature as well and the sidebar now has a search on top so rather than having to scroll through the whole list to find that colleague you can use a search that filters you can immediately start a new conversation there's also new dialogue for creating conversations so you can easily step through two steps to have a conversation and the lobby which we introduce in 17 is of course still available so you pick a time and date and then until then there's a lobby available for the people who are watching the really cool video verification feature of course still working so if you're sharing a file and you want to make sure that only the person who is supposed to get it gets it instead of sending the password maybe even via another channel that's still impossible that the spouse or a kid has access to their phone so with this feature you actually first have to start a video call and only then do you give access to the files so you really are 100% sure that only the person you just talked to gets access to it and not whoever got their hands on their phone it's quite nice yeah talk has commands so you can do a poll or you know connect it to github and get a warning when I don't know a test fills and of course all of this is available on mobile as well I'll skip this one because we have only a few minutes left calendar app so we rewrote the calendar app as well user interface again I mean it's a calendar app it looks like 2020 not like some of the others that look more like 1995 but it's still a calendar app it has a couple of nice features one of them that I personally really like is that when you're having a when you create a meeting you can create a talk room for the event there's just a button and then you click and then a talk room is created and added to the invitation so that you can have a call right there or a chat for the people who are joining and of course there's now a free busy view which is something we really needed to add and I think that is yeah create a talk room for this event so next about mail also made a whole bunch of steps forward one of the nice new things in mail that we did is actually it recognizes it in a rary so if you get a mail from well the train or airplane or travel company then it gets recognized other than top and if you click on the plus button you can actually meet the other to the calendar it's quite nice and it supports well hundreds of different companies but these are some of them so it's a pretty cool thing we did this together with the kd community I think there's a talk about it at FOSDEM or there might be not entirely sure but it's pretty nice and of course there's a video of it which you can see on our website but I won't play it here next lot flow is really nice it's essentially the idea is to automate boring tasks so you can do something like you know somebody drops a file in a specific folder there's a message in the chat room or I don't know somebody uploads a file in that folder and it gets turned into a pdf and email to somebody else these kind of features can now be configured in a pretty nice interface we're still adding more actions to it but there are like five or six at the moment you can also run a script over file automatically so you can essentially do pretty much anything and one of our developers is writing a app where you can just hit a uh how do you say that like a thing you on a server that you can connect it to external web apis and just the rest apis thing that you can talk to it from other tools so you could in theory use next cloud for your whole home automation for example if you want to um and a nice thing is of course you can combine these two because you can then describe what's going to happen in that folder just in top of the text on top of that folder which of course quite convenient we have already a third party developer integrate this this is an app I think it's called data analytics that can analyze a whole bunch of data which can be updated live um and it can for example reanalyze the data when a file gets uploaded in a specific folder or gets updated and it can also do actions like when the date hits certain threshold put a message in the chat room these things you can connect it into the whole system um well all of this available is on mobile as well uh for the desktop client we have new menu coming um I know I'm just spouting a lot of stuff because there's always so much happening in next cloud that it's really hard to keep it short and we're also pretty much at the end of time and I haven't even gotten to all the other apps yet there are 200 of them in our app store I'm kind of sorry for that but I'm thinking I'm out of time and I just need to stop it one minute yeah well there we go um look we're essentially going after office 365 with this and we're trying to offer a real alternative to office 365 that you can host yourself that 100 open source as a business of course you can get support from us as a company that's how we earn our money but as a private user run it on your draw box etc now we've seen all kinds of cool stuff that we have in this release but some of you might think well there's one thing missing because I still get these bloody Microsoft Office documents from people that still need to be able to edit them well you can download them and then use the file looking there is of course Colabora and only office which you can install if you know what a reverse proxy is if you don't you're kind of out of luck because it's really hard to install that stuff well we solved that so the biggest thing I think that we did for this release is that we essentially made a pig fly we made only office integrated in such a way that it's just one click and it works no proxies no configuration in Apache or nginx no docker container nothing just it works you can edit documents Microsoft Office documents or ODT documents with other people including a sidebar have a chat or a video call while you're editing the document it just bloody works my time is up thank you all very much any time for questions or not four minutes well what could not be answered in four minutes yes so the question is if the only office integration works on mobile I haven't tested it yet but it should if it doesn't it's a bug we will fix it ASAP any more questions yes no and we will not because honestly DoveCut is perfectly fine and there are others as well and the strength of next cloud is of course the web interface or the the end user experience where everything is integrated and the back ends of it honestly we don't want to do there are other people who do that better our strength within the user interface where you can share a file directly into a chat room where you can connect the chat room to a calendar item we don't need to build a calendar server or a mail server other people do that better than we do we build the user experience any more questions so the question is if you from Outlook can schedule an online meeting room in next cloud and yes and no there is an Outlook connector available I don't think it has yet support for this feature that it can create a talk room automatically so that you will still have to do manually but being able to book resources like a meeting room that feature should be there even in Outlook yes yes well there's not a video which I'm not going to be able to play there are those apps I promised there's one thing I wanted to say all of this is available right now yeah can download all of it and it'll work if there's not anything else yeah so the question is if we're going to create like a package for for example Debian what we try to do is to make a tarball that works for as many people as possible and leave the packages the packages to the packages so even our docker images and other things they're created by the community yeah I think that's the right model for us at the moment we focus on making a nice interface I I have a nice video but the problem is probably that there will be no sound well next cloud hub next cloud hub is the full content collaboration suite to manage all your documents and communications and only one worry-free package so to speak with next cloud files you can manage all your files and documents you can download and upload you can find everything the full text search and by tagging and of course you can share documents and collaborate with others for example with Carl, Paulette, Mickey and many more at the same time in next cloud photos you can find and view all your photos and videos just like this one oh that was nice in next cloud talk you can chat with others work on documents and even do audio and video calls like in a real office and best of all you can even participate from your mobile phone in the next cloud calendar you can manage share and sync all your appointments with your phone and desktop there are any more questions I'll post the video and the protection of itineraries next cloud hub even includes a full featured office suite that lets you edit all your office documents together with others you remember Carl, Paulette, Mickey here they are again the powerful content collaboration platform with all the features you need by the way the entire next cloud hub is open source and can run on-premises so you have control over your own data your cloud your data next cloud well that's a pitch there are four more videos but you'll have to go and watch them on our website thank you everyone