 All right, Lauren and Shelley, are we ready to begin our webinar? Let's go. We're good to go. All right, great. Good evening and welcome to the City of Santa Rosa's community meeting to discuss Mendocino Avenue between 4th Street and College Avenue. I am Bjorn Grippenberg with the City of Santa Rosa and I want to thank you for joining us tonight. A live interpretation can be heard on the Spanish channel, which you can join by clicking on the interpretation icon resembling a globe in the zoom toolbar on your screen. Before we begin the presentation, our host Lauren Wiley for the City of Santa Rosa and our translator Charles will explain how the meeting will work. The live interpretation is available on the Spanish channel. You can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon resembling a globe in the zoom toolbar on your screen. The meeting was committed to creating a safe and inclusive environment free from disruption. We will not tolerate any hateful speech or actions and will monitor that everyone is participating respectfully or they will be removed. If necessary, we will also immediately end the meeting. This meeting is being recorded and will be placed on the project webpage. At the end of the presentation, Bjorn will open up the meeting for public questions and comments. Thank you, Lauren. Once again, I want to thank you all for joining us tonight. Your participation and input are important to us as we discuss potential changes to Mendocino Avenue between 4th Street and College Avenue. Next slide please, Lauren. We will start tonight's meeting with an overview of the agenda and topics we plan to cover in the presentation. We'll start by sharing more about the project. We'll share the vision for this section of Mendocino Avenue as detailed in city planning documents. We'll present preliminary concepts and discuss some tradeoffs associated with each concept. We'll give a quick recap of a meeting we held last week with the downtown action organizations design and improvement committee. We'll share our project timeline, and then we'll have a couple of poll questions and go to public comment. Next slide please. For tonight's discussion, we're focusing on Mendocino Avenue between 4th Street and College Avenue. The city plans to apply a slurry seal paving treatment on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue sometime in summer or fall of 2023 paving projects present the best opportunity to consider changes to a roadways configuration, since the road needs to be restriped anyhow. It's basically a blank canvas. Next slide please. Here at the top you'll see the typical existing configuration for most of this stretch of Mendocino Avenue with parallel parking on both sides, a single southbound lane and two northbound lanes. Traffic decreased on this stretch by an average of about 60% following the reunification of old courthouse square. I should note that the after counts we're providing are from 2019 so that's pre pandemic data. Because of this decrease in traffic staff recommends removing one of the two northbound lanes and repurposing that space for a different use and that's why we're here tonight we want to hear from you about how we should repurpose that space. I should note that this project will only address the roadway striping. The budget does not include elements like sidewalk widening or street trees for example, but we do want to hear your creative and visionary ideas to help inform this project as well as any future improvements to Mendocino Avenue. Next slide please. Just give us options to consider for Mendocino Avenue, the city's downtown station area specific plan, which was adopted in 2020, gave direction to consider removing one of the two northbound lanes in order to install a center turn lane angled parking, widened sidewalks, or other walking and bicycling improvements. The bicycle and pedestrian master plan update adopted in 2019 identified this stretch of Mendocino Avenue as a class three shared bicycle route to be clear that is not a dedicated bicycle lane that's a marked bike route where people on bikes share the lane with vehicle traffic. Next slide please. The next few slides will provide some additional context to help inform how this project could impact or be impacted by bike improvements, parking utilization, and development projects. As guided by several city plans and policies, the city is working to improve mobility options downtown so that those who are who want to or are willing to walk bike and take transit can do so, helping to ease traffic congestion and leaving more parking for those who need to drive. Most notably the city will be making bicycle and pedestrian improvements to Santa Rosa Avenue between First Street and Highway 12, starting this summer. We also have bike and scooter share systems launching this year and those systems will enable people to rent electric bikes and scooters for short trips around town. Next slide please. A 2019 study of downtown parking utilization found that the blocks between fifth and seventh street seventh streets were the highest utilized on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue at over 85%. The blocks north of seventh street are a bit lower at 50 to 69%. There are just four spaces currently on the block between fourth and fifth street, but each of the concepts we have developed and will present momentarily would add a handful of spaces on the southbound side which currently does not have parking. Next slide please. There will be a considerable amount of development activity downtown, including two projects on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue shown here on the screen. These projects will obviously increase on street parking demand but at the same time will also increase walking and bicycling activity downtown. Next slide please. This illustrates the three options mentioned alluded to in the in the downtown station area specific plan. As you can see, each option includes one travel lane in each direction, as well as on street parking on both sides of the street. The first option would add a two way center turn lane along the length of the corridor. The second option would add angled parking, presumably on the northbound or east side of the street due to more business activity. The third option would add on street bike lanes. And I want to be clear that there we're not limited to one of these three options there could be other options including hybrids that combine elements from multiple options shown here. We're really just using this as a starting point for our discussion, but we're hoping to hear your creative solutions and priorities for this important downtown street. And then because this is a pavement maintenance project, we do not have budget to widen sidewalks or make any significant changes to the curbs. Our focus is really on the space between the curbs. Next slide please. We'll now look at some design considerations and tradeoffs between each of these concepts. Changing the parking to angled would trigger the need to add accessible spaces. These would likely be added as parallel spaces near intersections as the city has done in other locations, such as first street street, which is shown here. This would preclude parklets near intersections in some locations. Parklets, which we'll be talking about a bit more tonight are outdoor seating areas that are typically installed in the parking lane. And like I said, we'll touch a little bit more on parklets shortly. Next slide please. I want to show how the concepts would be impacted by left turn lanes which are recommended on Mendocino Avenue at the fifth street and seventh street intersection approaches. These two drawings are not to scale. They're just for illustrative purposes only. But here at the top you can see the angled parking option. And in that drawing you can see that parallel parking would be removed across the street from the angled parking to make room for the left turn lane. So essentially for the length of the left turn lane, we would lose the parallel parking on the opposite side of street from the angled. In the bike lane option shown below, something similar happens. We show parallel parking here being removed on both sides for the length of the, for the length of the left turn lane. In both cases we expect left turn lanes to occupy up to about 100 feet, which is, which comes out to roughly four or five parallel parking spaces. I do the bike lane option could preserve parking on one side, but this would result in narrower bike lanes, which will show on the next slide. Next slide please. So this slide shows the two different versions of the bike lane concept where left turns are proposed again at the fifth and seventh street intersection approaches. So at the top there you can see if parking is provided on one side of the street for the length of the left turn lane, the bike lanes would be narrower about five feet wide. And then on the bottom there you can see that if parking were prohibited on both sides for the length of the left turn lane, we would have enough width to provide wider buffered bike lanes. Next slide please. This slide shows the estimated number of parking spaces that would be provided under each option, as well as the change compared to the existing parking supply and any impacts on parklets. So there are currently 86 parallel parking spaces on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue as well as a handful of commercial and passenger loading zones. So the parking option would result in 120 to 130 parking spaces for an increase in 34 to 44 to 44 spaces, excuse me. This estimate is definitely it's rough it's subject to change, depending on the angle that we use site distance at driveways and intersections, accessible space requirements and compatibility with some of those commercial and passenger loading zones. So that number is definitely subject to change as we get further into a more detailed design. The center turn lane option would result in an increase of 15 parking spaces and not require any parking prohibition at the intersection approaches. The bike lane option with parking on one side at the left turn lanes is not expected to increase or decrease the overall parking supply. And that's because we're able to actually add parking on the southbound side in a couple of locations where parking currently doesn't exist offsetting any parking loss that would happen at the left turn lanes. So the bike lane option with no parking at the left turn lanes would result in a reduction of about 14 spaces throughout the corridor. Next slide please. We presented to the downtown action organizations design and improvement committee last week, and their group emphasized the importance of allowing as many businesses as possible, the option to install parklets. They supported bike bike improvements. And they believed the center turn lane option offered little benefit throughout most of the quarter since there are very few opportunities to actually turn left throughout most of the quarter with the exception of the interceptions intersections excuse me. Next slide please. We are tackling the community engagement for this project in in two phases in the first between May and the end of July. We are seeking your input as we identify and develop recommended concepts. Following tonight's meeting we encourage you to take our online survey, which will be posted at srcity.org slash Mendocino Avenue, and that survey will be open until June 30. Next week we will present to the city's bicycle and pedestrian advisory board at their regular meeting this Thursday, May 19. And then in August and September we will present our survey results and the recommended design to the downtown subcommittee downtown action organization and the bicycle and pedestrian advisory board. We're hoping to finalize the design by January of 2023. As I noted earlier the striping changes would be implemented following the slurry seal application sometime in summer or fall of 2023. And for more information and to sign up for project updates, you can go to the URL on your screen srcity.org slash Mendocino Avenue. Next slide please. So we recognize the importance of this corridor for those who live in, work in and visit downtown Santa Rosa, and we expect to hear a variety of perspectives and priorities from the community tonight. So before we open public comment we'd like to know a little bit more about who's in the room. And so we've prepared a couple of poll questions that should should appear on your screen. And I hope Lauren or Shelley I'm hoping you're able to launch those there we go. Sorry, my, my poll questions disappeared I don't know if are they still okay there they are. Sorry and I'm, I'm seeing that it says select up to three in question number two but if it's multiple choice you'll only be able to select one so I suppose we'll ask to choose your top priority rather than your top three please thank you and sorry for the confusion. Thank you everyone's wrapping up their responses. And then I'll ask Lauren or Shelley to show the results. We'll give it about another 30 seconds or so. Great, thank you. Okay, it looks like everybody's had a chance I'm going to go ahead and the poll and show the results. All right, great. Thank you Shelly and thank you everyone for taking our poll questions. So it looks like the majority of our attendees tonight 64% visit downtown. We do have four folks who own or manage a business on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue. One person who owns a business elsewhere downtown. We've got 16 people who work downtown and eight people who live downtown. And then as far as the top priorities again sorry sorry that you couldn't select up to three I'm sure most many of you would have selected multiple priorities. We have 66% who chose bicycling is their top priority. 45% who chose walking 41% who chose parklets. 25% who chose parking and 11% who chose traffic circulation. So like I like I said, great to have a variety of perspectives and and priorities from the community. Thank you. Lauren I think we can go to the next slide. So at this time we would like to hear from you, our community so we will now move on to the public comment or even question and answer portion of the meeting. However, before I begin, I will ask Lauren to review how you can participate by asking live questions and and giving your comments. Thank you Bjorn. Once Bjorn calls for public questions or comments we will announce for everyone wishing to ask a question or comment to raise their hand and zoom for individuals participating in the meeting by telephone you can dial star nine to raise your hand. We will then call on the public one by one who have their zoom hand raised your microphone will be unmuted so you may ask your question. Once you've raised your hand and asked your question or shared your input your hand will be lowered and your microphone muted so our panelists may respond to your question. Great. Thank you Lauren. Shelly are we ready for the first meeting attendee to to ask their question or provide a comment. Yes we are. Thank you Bjorn. Just a reminder, if you need to have your question translated, please let us know once you've been called on, and then please allow us to a moment to confirm that the translator is ready. Please remember to speak slower. So our translation team can relay your question. Anyone wishing to ask a question or make a comment may do so by raising your hand using the zoom raise hand feature, and you will be called in order as they show up on our screen. Again if you're calling in on phone you can dial star nine to raise your hand. So the first person in the queue. I'll calling you just a moment, just a reminder there is Q&As showing up. You can type your question if you cannot speak on those will be answered at the end of our live and live hand feature. Okay, so the first person in our queue is Sarah. Sarah we're going to ask you to unmute. Sarah. Okay, to find out the unmute. Thank you. So I have a question and a comment. And so I'd really like to see the bike lanes more protected than what you have pictured in your drawings with a maybe a three foot buffer zone between the bike lanes and the cars. Similar to what's done on Summerfield. And then I would like to know how this section of bike route is going to tie into the other bike routes in the city. So we're currently planning on getting a bike bridge over the 101 freeway and it's going to come down into Santa Rosa Junior College and out on the Mendocino. So I'd like to know how these bike lanes are going to get built so that they connect with that kind of routes through the city so we have continuous bike routes throughout the city. Thank you. Great, thank you Sarah. So your first question about whether it would be possible to add some sort of buffer or protection to these bike lanes, given the width of the roadway, doing so would require eliminating parking on one side of the street. We don't have enough width as it stands to provide to travel lanes to bike lanes and to parking lanes in each direction. With any sort of we have no room left to give with with with all of those uses so with the elimination of parking we could achieve buffered or protected bike lanes. Your second question about how this ties into the the bicycle network. So Mendocino Avenue as I mentioned in our in our bicycle and pedestrian master plan which really is the, that's the blueprint for our city's bike network. So this is this stretch of Mendocino Avenue as a class three or shared bike route, and it's its role in the network is essentially linking existing class two lanes on Santa Rosa Avenue south of south of courthouse square to class two lanes on on Avenue north of College Avenue. However, from my knowledge of kind of how people use our current network the, the more popular north south bike route north of downtown is is the humble street bike Boulevard. That being said, we one of the reasons we are, you know, pitching the idea of bike lanes on this stretch of Mendocino is there is a considerable amount of business activity and we know that people would probably like to visit some of those businesses by by bike or by scooter. And, and so I think we, we envision Mendocino Avenue by the bike lanes or bike route on Mendocino Avenue is being less of a across town or regional connection and more of a local connection serving those businesses and residences along Mendocino Avenue with Humboldt Street, serving as more of the, the through connection for for longer trips. Thank you. Our next speaker is Eris. Thank you. This is Eris Weber, Executive Director of the Sonoma County Bicycle Coalition, and given the location of our office I ride and walk this stretch multiple times every week day. So I have a lot of thoughts about it. I start with the ones that are relevant to to the striping but I do have some others that don't fall in that category that can just go into the hopper for another time. Ever since the the square was reunited and the traffic is down. I, most of the time writing that stretch see lots of empty parking. The echoing Ms. Jones's comment would much prefer to see protected bike lanes than class two bike lanes. But I think even class two bike lanes would be preferable over the class three which I'm not a big fan of anyway, which doesn't really change anything about what the road already is I already ride in taking up the whole right lane since there is no bike lane. However, I sometimes am get nastiness from drivers. Because I'm taking that lane even though they have another lane, because what they see is empty parking spots to the right of me and there is. I think a misconception that well I should be riding over there, even though the vehicle code says I'm a vehicle and so I should ride in a vehicle lane and not in a parking lane so I think adding a bike lane of some sort would be useful for both drivers and cyclists I also think I'm having a bike lane on connecting the previous the both the north and the south lanes makes for something that's continuous it's one of my biggest frustrations is when bike lanes come and go and people get confused and they don't know where to go. But as I said I would prefer there being a buffering and I think getting rid of parking on at least one side of the street would be reasonable given how much of that parking is not used much of the time. A couple of my other thoughts that are less related to the striping that can just go in the hopper for when we can look at other things on that street. Because I do walk there a lot is necessity to fix and potentially widen the sidewalks they are in really bad shape. And in many areas, there is a lot of other stuff encroaching on the actual walking space. And there's some stretches where I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone with a stroller or a wheelchair to get through. And then there are some places where there are businesses that spill out into the sidewalk which then makes it a little harder to walk through so my dream version would be to widen and make the sidewalks a little pleasant. Another thing that I would like to see is some attention to the traffic signals along this stretch. For example, if I come down 10th Street to turn left on to Northbound Mendocino when I come from the train station, that signal never recognizes my bike. I sit right on that little bike logo on the pavement and it does not see me so I either have to go press the back button or if there is no traffic just blow through the red light and some of the other ones are a challenge as well. And of course crossing at College of Mendocino is taking your life into your hands. I've been almost hit and see cars run that red light every single day. My final comment has to do with bike parking in that area. There are some businesses that have a fair bit of people in and out. And for example I get my morning coffee at Crooks and there is no place to park a bike anywhere along that whole stretch so I end up bringing my bike right into the coffee shop, which hopefully doesn't annoy anybody too much because they haven't told me not to. But having some bike racks along that whole stretch near where some of the businesses are could be a really nice thing. Thank you. Great. Thank you. I do want to just reply to a couple of issues that you raised with as far as traffic signal detection goes. We do have. I do want to let people know about my Santa Rosa. That's our internet application, which through which you can report issues like that one and notify the city and it's so we want people to use that whenever possible. The URL for that is srcity.org slash my Santa Rosa. And it has a map you can click on the spot where that you've where the issue exists and then you can choose the category in that case it'd be you know traffic signal issue, and our teams will get right on it. We also have on the city's walking and bicycling web page a form to request a bike rack. And so we the city actually has just secured a grant to purchase and install 100 bicycle racks throughout downtown. So really next year, I want to say as early as early 2023. And so that's another way to let us know where you'd like to see bike racks installed in the public right of way. All right, thank you. Thanks again, Aris. Shelly are we ready for our next question or comment. Yes, thank you. And just one reminder to slow your pace when you're speaking so that the translators can keep up and translate that appropriately for us. All right, our next speaker is going to be Alexa Alexa. Hi there. Can you hear me. Yes, we can hear you. Great. So thank you for the presentation and for the opportunity to contribute my perspective on the future of the stretch of Mendocino. I'm going to try to be slow for the translators it's a problem I have sorry. I live with my husband and two sons in the Montgomery village area of Santa Rosa and I work at the junior college, and I regularly patronize many of the businesses along this stretch of Mendocino, including ritual hair salon co lab co working space crooks coffee, three people's brewing company and track. My kids are huge fans of the outer planes comics and Game Store, and my family has attended many community events at the Glazer Center. We most often use our car to access these businesses and venues because we do not feel like it is safe and effective. There's a safe and effective way to ride our bikes. In fact, the few times we have tried to ride our experiences have been frustrating at best and dangerous at worst, but we would prefer to use our bikes that would be our preference. So I'm here to ask you on behalf of my family to make the changes necessary to make us feel welcome and safe, while on our bikes in this part of town, and none of the three options that you've presented as starting points will do so. The three planes that you are proposing in the third option are research shows only likely to be used by two to 3% of the population deemed the fearless. And I would, I wouldn't use them or feel safe letting my, my kids ride on them. So we would prefer protected bike infrastructure, and that attracts bicycle riders of all ages and abilities. I would like to reassure any representatives of the businesses along this stretch who happened to be listening in that my family is more likely to visit your establishments if we can do so safely on our bikes, and research shows that we are not alone. I think that bike infrastructure has been shown to have a positive or neutral effect on businesses in the areas of town in which it is installed. So I hope the planners are taking that research into account and that any businesses that are represented on this call will support the city and making bold investments in truly multi-modal downtown transportation. Finally, as someone who works at the JC, I would love to be able to ride from my office at the JC to downtown for meals, shopping and events. Protected bike lanes along the stretch will provide a missing link between the Humboldt Bicycle Avenue and Courthouse Square. So I hope the city can draft a fourth option that reflects genuinely protected bike infrastructure. Thank you. Thank you, Alexa. And Lauren, I'm wondering, would it be helpful? I know we probably want to leave this slide up to so people know how to participate, but I'm wondering if it would be helpful at some point to just leave the presentation on slide 10, which shows the concepts just for discussion purposes. I will make it so. Great. Thank you very much, Lauren. Alright, Shelley, are we ready for our next commenter? Yes, our next hand is Joel. There we go. Can you hear me now? Yes, go ahead. Hi, everybody. Thank you for putting on this presentation, by the way. And I know how difficult sometimes public forms can be as far as getting feedback. So I do appreciate you guys willing to take the time to listen to us. I do live in the downtown area, and this area is very much a balloon area for myself as well. I frequent crooks coffee probably every single day, including on the weekends. And I will say that I believe that the stretch of road definitely could be severely improved. So I do appreciate the change to it. My personal recommendation and I believe I'm hearing this from a lot of the other attendees that have already spoken is that it feels like there probably needs to be more of an expansion than what is being recommended here. And my thoughts have already been pretty echoed from this that I've thought about throughout the week. And I would like to present as the fourth solution that some people have been mentioning that we maybe consider the idea of closing a good majority of the street down for cars entirely. I believe this would make a large area walkable for a lot of people, bikeable, safe, you would basically be providing the amenity that almost everybody seems to want that includes businesses being able to put areas on the sidewalk and on the street. I would love for them to open up areas outdoors. It would allow people to be walkable across the street without having to worry spaces for bikes to actually be placed or other electric vehicles, small, you know, pedestrian electric vehicles. And I believe that a lot of this could easily be achieved by simply closing down effectively where the cars kind of get into the area of the College Avenue area if you go up north on the map. And you could funnel pretty much all the major traffic through the Healdsburg Avenue section. Since we've already known that the through way, since the dividing of the courthouse square has definitely limited traffic heavily in that area. I definitely behooved that closure of the area and really wouldn't seem to impact traffic all that much, based on the projections that we've already seen. Coming up with another projection as well that I think that would be really viable for closing the street down up to the College Avenue area would actually be because if we take a look at the parking reports that came out I believe it was about two weeks ago. The analysis reported that almost every single parking garage on almost any single event and time in all of Santa Rosa this includes weekends events and weekdays and weekday nights is almost always at a 50% capacity, if not lower, as a very common stay I believe there's only one parking garage that overgoes above that. And one of the biggest ones that I have noted is the parking garage that is over by outer plains on 7th Street is pretty much below 50% all of the time, like all of the time. And that is an area right next to Mendocino Avenue. If we were to funnel that traffic away from the Mendocino Avenue area and allow anybody who wants to come into the downtown through a carway. They would be able to park at that parking and make that parking more viable, which would also eliminate the need or requirement to even add any cars or parking for Mendocino. And that again, would allow for more walkable area, more bikeable area and more space for businesses to utilize that space in a more friendly and friendly way. Thank you. Great. Thank you Joel. Shelly, you ready for our next hand. Yeah, our next speaker will be Adrian. Great. Hi there, can you hear me fine. We can thank you. Okay, thank you. Hi, my name is Adrian covert and the West End resident and lead for Center of the envy. You know, I live in the West End. I ride down Mendocino often on my bike with my wife and our toddler and a bike lane without a physical barrier is not a bike lane. Cars will violate the space unless you put up the barrier, and it makes it unsafe, and it makes it biking unpleasant. Barriers are needed to protect the cyclists. And according to the Santa Rosa police department. It killed 55 people and injured nearly 9,000 people in Santa Rosa since 2012. And nearly half of those deaths were just pedestrians or cyclists, so people not even in cars. So when you're are riding alongside traffic. It's a very unsafe and unpleasant experience. This is something that I think the city could really has an opportunity to improve upon and read designing Mendocino is an excellent opportunity to really connect downtown with some good bike infrastructure. Now, when it comes to what would have to be sacrificed. Consider this that 25% of the downtown surface area is already committed to parking infrastructure. And as the previous speaker mentioned, most of it is unused. The city's pre COVID parking analysis by Walker consultants found that over half of the city's parking spaces go unused on a typical busy day. That is a lot of wasted space. I think at the very least, we should be talking about eliminating the 14 parking spots to make room for protected bike lanes with ballards, or a sturdier barrier. Doing so would sacrifice less than one fifth of 1% of the downtown parking capacity. So that is a very small sacrifice to make a big boost in bike ability. And if we really wanted a big win for the city. I agree with the previous speaker that we should be talking about opening this space up exclusively to pedestrians and cyclists, and creating a public space, unlike any other in the region. Thank you. Great. Thank you Adrian. Shelly ready for our next challenge. I am. Dick you'll be our next speaker. Can you hear me. Yes, we can thank you. I'm Dick Carlisle retired urban planner and civil engineer. And being involved with courthouse square design I knew someday this was going to come up about reimagining what could happen with Mendocino Avenue. Well, it's here. Thank you very much for carrying this forward because I'm going to take a different bent on this. I know the emphasis has been on bike lanes and bicycles which I feel is very important. But I want to step back and look at the big picture. We have a gateway. At college Avenue. And we have courthouse square at the other end. And what we need to do is make this space. Very interesting. Now there's been a lot of good comments about, you know, eliminating some of the traffic and really making this a people place. But let's look at the big picture when you when you look at cities in Europe. We've got terminated vistas. We've got an opportunity at each end of this Mendocino Avenue to have terminated vistas. We can bring back some of the history of the arch that was right there near four street that said Redwood Empire. And it would frame the new artwork that will be in courthouse square. And then we could have something that would really stand out so that you had terminated vistas at each end of this street to really make it interesting it makes it stand out from just another city street main street. Let's look at the big picture here and you know, in so many urban planning documents and I know bicycle lanes are are important. But when you take a city street like this and make it a skinny street. You provide the parking and you slow down what you want to do is really narrow that down so anybody going down there, whether you're on a bike or on a car. It's very slow, very pedestrian friendly very bike friendly, but you know eliminating parking is not the answer. You need that that edge to slow the traffic down. You eliminate any parking and have just it comes from thoroughfare and is there any way we can really look at bicycles being safe on humble coming up that way and being this with the side streets with bicycles and having good bicycle parking at each end of the intersection. And anyway, that's just a few of my, I missed some of the earlier. I'm assuming you're not changing any of the curb width or anything and you're just redefining what's what's going on here. Now as far as left turn lanes and turn lanes. Perhaps you should look at some small, well designed traffic circles at the intersection. That could allow the traffic to slow down turn and make left turn lanes. If they're well designed it could be part of the whole impact of the street design and course. The other thing is bringing in to make the street interesting bringing in the street lights. Colored flower baskets, well designed and comfortable benches for seating. There are so many things that we can do to enhance this street to make it interesting for people to walk whether you're on a bike, a car or walking. And with emphasis on really walking because it, it could be, and like I say having the gateways at both end terminated VISTAs will really define it. Thank you. Thank you, Dick and I do I do want to reiterate for any of those of you who maybe have joined us since the presentation started this project will only impact the existing road bed it's these these improvements we're looking at our, our striping changes, which will be delivered because which we're enabled to do because we're planning to apply a slurry seal pavement overlay sometime next summer fall. And make any changes to the sidewalks as part of this project or install any other streetscape amenities as part of this project. We are still interested in hearing those ideas as you shared dick to help inform future improvements on on Mendocino Avenue. Shelly we did get a request in our in our q amp a to when you announce the next speaker to announce the person who's on deck. If you can do that please. Thank you. So our next speaker will be Kathy and Jenny will be on deck. Good Kathy. Kathy I'm trying to unmute you. Are you getting a message to unmute. Okay we're going to move to Jenny, Jenny we're going to unmute you. Yes, so my name is Jenny Barn thank you for this. Thank you to the public to provide input. And I am a longtime resident of the JC neighborhood. I live now in the Luther Burbank gardens neighborhood and I am a frequent traveler on my bicycle heading north and south, many different ways and and through the downtown. And I was struck by Dick Carlisle emphasis on reimagining what could be for Mendocino Avenue and I totally agree with that I, if for those of you who don't know, I was very involved in developing a vision for Mendocino Avenue from the steel lane to college Avenue. We brought in a walkability expert Dan Burden, who involved, we, we were able to involve our neighborhoods, the city, the fire department the place everybody schools, new button is now appearing, and to create a vision for what a real walkable bikeable Mendocino Avenue could look like. Sorry, Shelly it appears Jenny was just muted I don't know if that was didn't sound like she she finished her comment. Sorry that was my fault sorry. Okay, so anyway, I'm not sure where I left off but the reimagining what Mendocino Avenue could be is is is really important and I have thought a lot about this and I'm very interested in all of the comments that have been made about actually taking away the cars on Mendocino Avenue, all the way down to courthouse where from college, because there is an alternative that goes along Hillsburg Avenue to be street. And then allowing the bicycles to really have a dedicated place because they do not really have that anywhere in the city they have we have humble bike Boulevard. But when you get to college Avenue, you have to wait up to a minute to cross. So it's not really suitable for really prioritizing bicycles. And then when you get down into the downtown. You get to third street and you have to take the lane and it's a little nerve wracking for people who are not comfortable doing that and riding with cars so nowhere in our city do we have a completely dedicated north south route for bicycles. And I believe I agree with with others that this really is needed, even on Hillsburg Avenue to be street. Yes, there's a bicycle path and that's tends to be the way I go if I'm on Mendocino Avenue heading south, but it also gets scary at third street because the bike lane ends, and you have to merge with traffic there and very very dense traffic corridor. I would like to also request that the city really look at considering and prioritizing the bicycle for Mendocino Avenue, and also just to ask that you maybe discuss what is in the future for continuous bicycle lanes. Along Santa Rosa Avenue so once you get onto the other side of the courthouse square, having a dedicated bike path all the way to where Santa Rosa Avenue comes into third street and heading down to Bennett Valley Road I believe the bike lanes are going to be added there, but that these be the most, you know, whatever infrastructure improvements can be included to make those safe, and as protected as possible. Thank you. Thank you, Jenny. Thank you, Jenny. Okay, our next speaker we're going to try Kathy again. And then Esther will follow Kathy. Can you unmute. I'm trying. Okay, we can hear you. Okay, thank you. First, one comment on your automatic transcription. There's a lot of truth in it that's unexpected. Mendocino Avenue is described as menace and humbled street as humble, which is kind of appropriate, but I'm speaking as a pedestrian. Just very quickly I'll clarify the slower you speak the more accurate it becomes. The experience of a pedestrian on Mendocino Avenue now is kind of difficult because there are, especially teenagers. When they're trying to ride bikes down Mendocino, they will ride on the sidewalk, because it's, it's just too dangerous to ride on Mendocino Avenue so as a pedestrian. They might not really yield to them, but that shouldn't be happening. Period. And then the parklets. The parklets have been blocking the sidewalk. And I've had to walk out into the traffic lanes, just to walk down Mendocino Avenue. Another thing that I see is out of the scope of this but you might want to consider for the future is the HVAC exhaust from the Rosenberg building that blows out onto the sidewalk, and the air is foul. And it, I just don't walk that block. So, I don't know why you have to give so much space to parking as someone pointed out earlier. There's plenty of parking just off Mendocino Avenue and making the streets safer for bicycles would also make it safer for pedestrians. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy. I think we're going to ask you to unmute. Sorry, Bjorn. And then we'll be followed by Brad. Hi. I live in between 10th and 7th street. And the traffic on Mendocino is horrific I own a business. So my business is downstairs and I live upstairs. And the young kids with their hot rods race up and down Mendocino. And it's very unsafe. But I do agree with with Dick and that we cannot lose any parking because I have clients that come, and they do not want to park in the garage because they don't feel safe in the garages. So they want to be able to park out front so I don't think that's a solution to get rid of parking especially since I've noticed there's a lot of building going on new apartments and things going high rise buildings. And that would be a good idea. We had a side show down here a few months back that lasted from 12am to 3am in the morning. They had fireworks going off on the building next door to me. I called the police several times. Nobody ever came down here to do anything. They continued the side show right in the middle of 7th street. And every night and even during the day they race down Mendocino going probably 50 miles an hour. The motorcycles and the cars are so loud they make the horns go off on all the cars. So the horns are going off and this loud, loud noise. And it's hard. I like to leave my door open so that I can, you know, have fresh air and I have to close it because they're racing their cars up and down Mendocino. So I don't ride bikes so I'm not going to say anything about the bike thing but I was thinking maybe if they put in speed bumps and don't take away the parking, put in speed bumps so you cannot race down Mendocino Avenue from college all the way to 4th street. So that's just, you know, my opinion, I don't, I'm not a city planner or anything like that, but I just live down here and I've lived down here since we've had the business since 2018 but I've lived here since 2019. And it's just even in the daytime and then even in the garage you'll hear them racing down into the garage but I just hate to see the any parking spaces being lost in the front, because that's where a lot of clients like to park. Thank you Esther and I do want to mention that with all of our designs proposed configurations here and with eliminating one of the two northbound travel lanes we do expect there to be some traffic calming benefits since basically people will now be stuck behind the car in front of them right there won't be any opportunity to pass in a second northbound lane as there is currently. So hopefully that should help alleviate some of those issues. I do want to give an opportunity to Rob Sprinkle who is our deputy director of traffic engineering to chime in if he has any additional comments about that or, or speed bumps. Thanks Bjorn. Yeah, I think I would have said exactly what you said regarding the traffic coming in the benefits of reducing the travel lanes and also reducing the widths of the lanes down to I think 11 feet. We do have bus routes that do go on the section of the street north of 10th and I don't believe they come down south of 10th but that would be one thing that we have to consider and installation of speed humps the other thing is our fire and emergency response ability those all have to be vetted through those channels prior to any type of installation. My preference I think would be to, to, you know, if we, if we go with installation of the single lane in each direction and maybe even with some of the traffic circles in the future and those types of traffic calming measures I don't think the speed bumps actually would. I don't think we need them at that point anymore I think I think we'd probably address the majority of any of the speeding issues that would be that would result so. Thanks very much. Thank you Rob. All right, thank you Brad, you're going to be next followed by Peter. Yeah, thank you. This is Brad Hevner. Thanks very much for holding this meeting for all your work on this. I live in Santa Rosa, and I work downtown have an office in the Upton building, the corner of fifth and Mendocino. I'm on the third floor they're sort of looking down on the Puerto Rican restaurant across the street. I agree with Esther more it did noise and, and, and Robin Bjorn I'm not convinced really that that narrow lanes and a single lane is going to do the trick. You know people strut their cars downtown they go slowly down fourth street, sort of showing off their car and then they turn the corner and take it was a green light they punch it right then or if it's a red light at fifth they'll go up and wait for the light and then punch it there. They're not traveling they won't be stuck behind another car and most of the time there is not another car. And those, those drivers are just looking to make noise this is this is, you know, what they're doing. And they're going to take the opportunity even with a single 11 foot lane as long as there's not a car in front of them, and be really disruptive to downtown businesses. You know, I like many people I'm on zoom meetings all day, I feel really lucky to be able to sit in my downtown Santa Rosa office and have meetings with people all over California, including appearances before judges and, and presentations to a lot of people and I like having my downtown town be my, my, my downtown Santa Rosa being the place I do all that from, but I'm now looking for another office because I'm in the middle of these meetings and speaking it was a lot of people listening and there's this roar of a car and it's so disruptive. I can't stay there with that kind of noise. And so I don't know if it's a slightly elevated crosswalk type of calming or speed bump or something but I think more really needs to be done on that. I also bike, most of the time, to and from the office. And I live to North so Humboldt is a North South quarter but just my specific way that I go to get on the Humboldt. If you're not don't want to deal with fourth and then fifth, you go over and it's a left turn across traffic, and so that's better to avoid. I'll go up Mendocino to seventh before I get over to Humboldt and then you're turning left at the four way stop sign. So that stress between fifth and seventh is key to be able to ride comfortably on Mendocino Avenue. And I think you said at the beginning that the base plan was just Cheros and not even a striped bike lane I think that would be a huge disappointment, because you really want to feel safe on a bicycle going for me especially on that on that one stretch. So, I think you know the vision for downtown becoming more and more walkable outdoor people outdoor going slowly it's it's it's a great vision, and we can do that but it's not made for cars. It's not made for for me a moving vehicles speedily and slow, slow driving is just fine for that for that vision of the future. So, thanks very much. Peter we're going to go ahead and ask you to unmute and you will be followed by Colin Thomas. Hi, Bjorn, and my name is Peter Stanley. I have an architecture and planning firm actually right. We're in we have an office in the Colab building which is on the ground floor of the press Democrat. Plus, we're the ones the image you showed at the corner of Riley and Mendocino were the planning consultants for that eight story building. I'm going to echo a lot of what I heard in the beginning of this presentation for at least the, the public presentation of, you know, reimagining Mendocino Avenue at least this stretch and Jenny I'm glad you brought up the north of college Avenue stretch because the notion that men that the old has become the north south bicycle transportation corridors because Mendocino hasn't been developed into what it could be. And I think a reimagining of this downtown has to take into account that everything that I've heard even those who are saying don't take away parking is reimagining this as more of a bicycle and pedestrian corridor. There's 112 units that are going to go in at the corner of Mendocino and Riley and we are reimagining Riley is a more pedestrian and bicycle friendly little corridor there. There's only nine parking spaces that are going to be in our building and they're going to be a car share program. So, we're not intending to bring a lot of cars down into Mendocino Avenue. And I think the elimination of parking is not a bad thing. We have a pretty robust parking infrastructure in Santa Rosa between the parking garages and the lots themselves. We just purchased the lot at the corner of Riley and B Street from the city of Santa Rosa but when we develop that site we're going to put all that parking back in so the parking isn't getting eliminated it's getting rerouted in different ways. Mendocino is, it is a horrendous stretch section of the road now I, I even now with the reduced amount of traffic. It still feels unsafe at times to go through there. And so if we're going to reimagine it and I realize we can't put a lot of the infrastructure for the protected bike lanes in there but we can, we can plan for that in the future when maybe we have infrastructure finance money that would allow us to start doing some of these street improvements that are more about the infrastructure rather than the striping. I don't think diagonal parking is a solution. It creates dangerous situations for people on bikes, when people are just pulling out of diagonal parking I think parallel parking and reduced parallel parking with parklets and wider bike lanes along the avenue we don't need more than two lanes down there. And if we eliminate some of this parking reason to come down there then what happens is it gets backfilled by people who walk and people who bike when Alexa said she'd love to take her family down there. That's because if you provide a pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure that's who you're going to get. If you provide a car infrastructure, that's what you're going to get. So we're trying to reimagine in our developments in the downtown to sort of take away that idea that the car is king and start putting pedestrians and bicycles, more to the forefront. One of the ways you can do that is widen those bike lanes along there, reduce it to two lanes of traffic, and then do what like Windsor did is you you paint those bike lanes a different color. And it really establishes that that's a bike lane in it. It's almost a cue to people who are in cars it slows them down, and it also gives you a space that you feel safe in. It's far better to have a protected bike lane where we had separated infrastructure, but maybe that needs to come later but we should be planning for it now. When the money comes that we have the money to put that infrastructure in place and that we're not tearing out a bunch of things that are already there. Obviously widening the sidewalks is always a good thing. And I do believe that we need to have ways in which businesses that are coming in there. There isn't a lot of part there aren't a lot of people parked along there because the businesses aren't there. As this grows and as we expand more downtown housing into those areas, we hope to have more people there but we hope to have them on bicycles and walking and so those sidewalks need to widen up so that businesses can spill out into the sidewalks. And Dick brought up earlier about Europe, well, that's how Europe does it. You, you look at the Netherlands and you look at areas of Germany and Switzerland and Sweden, and certainly in Denmark, that's how they do it, and they just narrow things down, and it does slow the traffic. Cars should not be driving through here ever since we reunified courthouse square we ended that north south sort of through fare. So now what you're talking about is just the people who are coming in there to visit businesses. And so I think we need to prioritize pedestrians we need to prioritize bicycles, and we need to minimize the convenience of cars coming in there and I think you'll actually the businesses will actually get more people coming in. Thank you. Thank you, Peter. Thank you. Colin, you're going to be next, and then you're going to be followed by Manona. Hi, I'm Colin Tomer and I am the system change advocate with disability services and legal standard offices actually right on the casino. So it's a great project to see. There's been a lot of voices having the protective by grains is needed if the backgrounds are to be installed on this can give people who use rich areas of mobility devices and that option on saving this dialogue. It's too busy of those some sort of obstruction. And then having the very good parking is also a benefit that can allow for more ADA compliance places and especially van. There's a big enough events, which is need in the same other area. But that was just on biking and then we start in having on the crosswalks behind visible having forward white stripes on that and that's designed similar to how we have green stripe green stripes bike lanes. So it's easier to see. And walking across and more of us and also be good to see by some additional crosswalks in between the intersection crosswalks to improve access. I know it's not necessarily in the budget for this but improving the traffic signal crosswalk signals so they are a bit longer, maybe 1520 seconds to 20 seconds. And I said 10 and having the make signals that have a voice and that probably when it saves across will be a desert. It was abilities. Thank you. Thank you to Colin and before we move to the next comment I do want to give an opportunity for Rob to Rob if you want to weigh in on any of those traffic signal modifications. I'm actually writing that note down right now regarding the times in that area to look at them. We do modify our traffic signal timing. dependent on calls and needs for extended times. So if there are specific ones you could use the app that Bjorn mentioned prior the my Santa Rosa app to request specific locations be reviewed for increased time. Thank you Rob. All right, thank you Manona we're going to ask you to speak, followed by Chris. Hello, good evening, can you hear me. We can thank you. Great, thank you. Thank you for having this presentation this forum to hear public comments. It's been really interesting hearing everyone's different comments and I agree with all the speakers who have spoken before me. I think that there is a vast possibility for improvement of the stretch of Mendocino Avenue. And I'm really happy that the city is looking at making these improvements. I think reducing the vehicular lanes to two lanes and adding bike lanes would be a huge benefit to the community to allow people to bike downtown. And I do want to see that the intersections and connection to the larger bicycle network in Santa Rosa is considered. I think it was Brad was in the connection to seventh street is important and I do think that's critical for cyclists to be able to use the area to make sure that the intersections are well marked and connected to other biking infrastructure. Great to consider removing parking from one side of the street to allow for more space for bicycles but if that's not possible, looking at additional traffic calming measures whether they're raised crosswalks or other things that would really calm traffic and makes this a more pleasant street for people and whether they're walking or biking or sitting at one of the in front of one of the businesses would be great if there was more opportunity for businesses to spill out onto the street in this section. I just want to say that I appreciate the buffered bike lanes on E Street, and I utilize those to get downtown. But then getting over to the courthouse square is a challenge on a bicycle. And so having this connection to people getting to courthouse square on bicycle would be wonderful. And thinking about bicycle parking, making sure that there's adequate bicycle parking would be appreciated so I just want to thank you for having this forum and hope that the that that you will think about the third option of adding bike lanes and maybe some things of the fourth option. And maybe at some point eliminating some parking spaces widening sidewalks, making this it more visually interesting in this area to attract people to come downtown and frequent multiple businesses. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Chris, you're going to be our next speaker and then we're going to follow it with. We'll be reading each of the Q&A questions. So go ahead, Chris. Hi there. I just want to say thanks. Obviously, this is a really important project. And like others, I really appreciate the robust effort to engage with the community around this and I've really enjoyed the discussion this evening. I'm in the eastern part of the city and I visit downtown frequently, including to patronize businesses. I used to work at Colab although I'll be honest that one of the reasons I stopped using the space before the pandemic was the difficulty of getting to and from it. I'm actually looking to work downtown again in the near future ideally. So I'm looking for ways that I can make that work and especially to be able to ride my bike to be able to do it. So, not surprisingly, I want to echo a number of other speakers and expressing support for better bike infrastructure and walkability. I'm actually really disappointed that the options that have been presented didn't prioritize biking more. I'm sort of baffled by the ones that vastly increased parking for a lot of the reasons that people have mentioned. And I want to remind everybody that the city does have stated goals in a number of places, not only to improve infrastructure but to actually increase the use of that infrastructure for walking and biking. And as some have said, you know, the lanes that are proposed in the third option here, they're simply not going to be effective. And so nobody's going to ride on them. And that's going to be a self-filling prophecy because others will look and say, look, nobody rode. They would rather drive. I think we know and we have a lot of research to support that we can do better. And so I really support making biking a priority, you know, including traffic calming as part of that. And then ratcheting up the scale of strategies that we can use to make biking lower stress and more effective and more accessible from painting the lanes green as some have said, but more importantly to introducing buffered lanes. And I don't think that has to be buffered or protected lanes. I don't think that has to be a huge investment or a huge change in the infrastructure. I think that's compatible with the goals of this project as many folks have cited. On the connectivity point, you know, I just want to add that downtown is a really key destination. So it's fine to say that humble is, you know, the key north-south route, except that people want to ride on that route and get downtown. And the reason why is because of the density of, you know, work, education, shopping, entertainment, all the opportunities that exist downtown. And if we say that biking is, you know, a secondary priority, or we don't provide multiple routes for people into the core of downtown, then again, we're undermining the opportunity to actually get people to shift out of their cars and onto the streets where they can be more connected to other people where they can be with their family and their friends and not stuck in a car alone. And I just want to add I'm willing to give up parking to realize that vision. I think there was the speaker earlier that cited some really compelling stats and is my own experience that parking downtown is not hard to find. There are spots on this stretch of road that are frequently empty. And I think anybody who argues the opposite needs to marshal, you know, equally compelling if not more compelling stats. Finally, on the parklets question. I love parklets. I love, you know, more infrastructure on the street that that isn't for cars. But I think it's really strange that that we would make that a priority going forward because those only have come into prominence as an extraordinary measure during the pandemic. An interesting article that I read during the pandemic that highlighted the fact that, you know, these extraordinary measures that we were taking were actually sort of opening up people's thinking about how, you know, street spaces and buildings and other things maybe could be designed differently to meet people's needs better. And I think that's great so I think we should have the opportunity for, you know, more businesses to have outdoor seating areas, but I don't think we should give up the road for that and I definitely think that that should undermine the ability to realize bigger picture goals like improved bike infrastructure, improved accessibility that that are already in the city's plans. And especially because there are only two parklets on the street right now by my count. And, you know, if people if more businesses didn't jump out to create them in the last two years, then what's the evidence that that's a huge priority going forward and why should that be everybody else's priority. So I would like to be able to use the street for connectivity. And I think we can do a much better job so I'd love to see some some more ambitious options in the next round. Thanks. Thank you Chris. Thank you. Okay, I'm going to start with the beginning of the questions. If they've already been answered, we can move on. Please clarify parklets. Do you mean businesses on the street? Yes, so parklets are just basically areas for outdoor seating and dining that are located within the parking lane. And there are, as Chris noted, a few existing parklets on the stretch of Mendocino Avenue currently. My top priority not listed in the quiz is to reduce the number of people cruising in cars with modified mufflers to make extra noise. I'll say so noted on that. Okay, next one are protected bike lanes a possibility using portable concrete curb similar to the curbs used in a parking lot. Yes, so we, there are several different, basically several different ways that you can create protected bike lanes. Some, some cities use flexible hit posts or ballard some some cities use park the parking lane as protection. Some are using curbs and really it just what it boils down to is there are maintenance impacts associated with each. You have to think about stormwater impacts street sweeping. And you also have to think about the width that's available and so our business our biggest challenge with getting protected bike lanes on this corridor would again as I said earlier we would, we would need to remove parking in one direction to have the width to afford protected bike lanes and protect our minimum width for protected bike lanes as directed by Caltrans is seven feet. So that's a five foot bike lane, and then a two foot buffer with some form of vertical protection in that two foot buffer. And so as you can see if you look at the bottom option to get seven feet. We would need to, we would need to eliminate one side of parking. Came in a few minutes late but I haven't heard anything about the lack of maintenance along the stretch of medicine Avenue. Is there going to be more focus on removing weeds repainting light standards removing graffiti, etc. The focus of this project is, it's a slurry, a slurry seal pavement overlay on the road bed which is meant to extend the the life of our of our roadway surface. And as for the other items that's that's not an area of emphasis for this project, but if you do see anything that needs maintenance within the public right of way again go to srcity.org slash my Santa Rosa and reported there. Thank you. As a business owner on this stretch of Mendocino Avenue, I and my partner strongly advocate for an angled parking. Most businesses on this quarter are not thriving. We need to focus less on cyclists accessing businesses and more about the health of businesses. I am a cyclist for the record. Okay. This next one I'm going to ask one of the translators to come back. I'm going to read this one in Spanish. If you could translate for us okay. I think it's also very important that the lights of the semaphores in the synomah of there are several that. One, not the actualization, they don't have arrows to turn around. I think that is quiz, sir. That's not my sis. Sir, that's don't they are as well as. That's a little gross. If you could translate that for us. Oh, I can read the actual question. Thank you. Perfect. Thank you. I think that another important it is something else that's important are the lights for the signals on Sonoma Avenue, there are many of them are not up to date they don't have arrows to be able to turn left. And they're also very close to schools which is dangerous. Thank you. Okay, hi, I've been in Santa Rosa 22 years before that I lived in Boulder. Sorry, let me take you back off. Thank you. I've been in Santa Rosa for 22 years before that I lived in Boulder and Fort Collins, Colorado, and Burlington, Vermont. All of those towns offer a great model for our town. Specifically they have walking malls that have no vehicle traffic and are full of people visiting restaurants cafes shops restaurants and bars. And Sonoma Avenue offers exactly this opportunity. Alternatively, make it one way and end bound traffic or northbound traffic parking on one side bike lanes and parklets make it people friendly. Thank you. Tracy says I'm a resident of Santa Rosa. My primary mode of transportation is the bicycle. And this section of Mendocino could be transformed to a bike friendly throwaway. The current street configuration is frustrating and unsafe. My question is, would this project extend to College Avenue. And if so, could the very unsafe current conditions along the southbound direction of Mendocino Avenue, crossing college be improved southbound Mendocino has two lanes that beers to the right to become Healdsburg Avenue. And Mendocino, a bicyclist has to cross two lanes of traffic. It's scary. Thank you for all your work. Tracy Jones. And shelly I'll just, I'll address that really quickly. So we are actually looking at that that very issue. And we've got a concept to that that Rob actually and I were just discussing before this meeting to basically keep the bike southbound bikes on Healdsburg so they don't have to make that that maneuver on to southbound Mendocino, keep them on Healdsburg until 10th, and then give them a two stage turn at 10th to ride eastbound to Mendocino, and quickly to avoid that whole what happens at that intersection southbound, but that's definitely something we want to take a look at and something we will likely bring to our bicycle and pedestrian advisory board for their consideration at some point soon. Thank you. Hi, is the idea to eliminate cars going through Mendocino, coming from College Avenue, going into Mendo, or eliminate cars going from downtown into Mendocino towards College Avenue. Thank you. So the con, none of the concepts shown would completely eliminate traffic in either direction on Mendocino. But as, as we mentioned earlier so there are currently two northbound lanes on Mendocino from fourth to college. And all of our proposals would eliminate one of those two northbound lanes to make the road one lane in each direction, given that the traffic volumes on on this stretch of Mendocino are down significantly since the reunification of courthouse square. Thank you. John says I would like to clarify with protected bike lanes, would there still be parallel parking on one side of the street. This would be great convenience for deliveries to the glass glazer center. So yes, if we were to try to come up with a design that would provide protected bike lanes. There would still be, we would still be able to provide parking on one side of the street. We could even entertain angled parking on one side of the street depending on the angle and the width that we take up with the protected bike lane so definitely an option that we can look at. Okay, Marisol's question is in Spanish. So again, I'm going to ask Charles to pop out to help us translate this one. Charles, can you read that question from Marisol. Okay, and so you turn off the Spanish channel in order to have me over here is that right so I shouldn't interpret during this time. I took you out correct. Sounds good. I said, me pregunter por qué no reglaen completamente las calles solo las están pintando las rayas and then rellenando posos pero no, pero lo que en realidad se ocupa es cambiar totalmente renovarla con algo mejor que no se dañe con el agua y el sol. And it says, you know, I asked myself, you know, why the streets don't get fixed, like completely. They're just, you know, you're just painting them like you're just painting the lines on them and filling holes, but in reality what it's what is needed is complete renovation, something better that doesn't get damaged by water and sun. Excellent. Thank you. Appreciate your help with that. Rob an opportunity to just quickly summarize kind of the city's approach to pavement maintenance, since I know he just gave an excellent presentation to the Council on this. Great, thanks Jordan. So, without getting too far into the weeds. This street is a great street for us to apply a slurry seal because it is in relatively good condition still. When we have streets that have actually failed and have gone a little bit past the, the stage of degradation that Mendocino has it's putting a slurry seal on it wouldn't accomplish much but because Mendocino is still in relatively good condition, a slurry seal will help actually extend the life of the street so and what the slurry seal does is it does help with the oxidation from the sun and with the water penetration into the asphalt. That's exactly what it does. It helps protect the street from from those elements. It's giving us the opportunity to look at the striping at the same time because we have to remove the striping and then reapply once it's once the slurry is done. Thank you. Brad says is there room to put the bike lane between the sidewalk and a row of parking, especially on the northbound side, there aren't any driveways on that side of the street. Yes, so again, to do so, we would need to eliminate parking on one side of the street. We have. So, with earlier I mentioned that we're required to provide a minimum of seven feet for protected bike lanes that actually goes up to eight feet for parking protected bike lanes the buffer between the bike lane and the parked cars needs to actually be three foot instead of two feet for parking protected so yes again, something that that we could do, but with elimination of parking on one side of the street. Thank you. Mick, and Mick says, my concern is the businesses on Mendocino and the lack of availability of enough parking right off college Avenue and Mendocino. There's much more parking getting close to seventh and fifth street, given the fact there is a parking garage in addition to street parking, but the block between college and Mendo all the way to seventh lacks parking spaces that are enough to support the businesses in that area. Yeah, I'll quickly say we looking at the existing on street parking on that section north of seventh street. There are there, there might be some opportunities to add some parallel parking on the southbound side up closer to closer to college. There might be able to fit a couple of spaces in there. Beyond that, can't think of too many opportunities to add much on street parking north of seventh. Unless we were to look at converting some of the existing existing commercial and passenger loading zones to parking, although that's you know, that's another another matter that we'd have to look into. Thank you. Anonymous says I think businesses should maintain outdoor seating options and makes downtown much more fun. And then lastly, we had a previously answered question. The question was will this slide presentation be available on the project website after this meeting, and the answer was yes, at srcity.org forward slash Mendocino Avenue, all one word. All right. Thank you so much, Shelley, for all your help with the questions. Lauren, if you're able to go advanced to to slide 19, please. Great, thank you. Seeing no additional hands or questions. I would like to express my appreciation and our appreciation and thank members of the public panelists interpreters and hosts for participating tonight. We really appreciate you taking the time to listen to us and provide your input on Mendocino Avenue. As mentioned earlier in the meeting, we would also like you to visit the project website listed on your screen to sign up for project updates. Take our project survey I don't Jamie may have actually published that during this meeting if it's not there it will be there shortly. And, and stay tuned for future updates up I just got a message from Jamie the survey is live and we do have the survey available in both English and Spanish. Your participation in tonight's meeting and and with that I think we're ready to wrap up the meeting. So I'll, I'll say good night.