 All right. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to BC 213, our course on the end times. Thank you for joining the class. Can somebody please pray and then we will get started. Father, we come before you in the name of Jesus. Lord, we thank you for this day, Lord Father. We thank you for everything that you have prepared for us, Lord Father, for this day. Lord, we submit ourselves into your mighty hands. Guide us with your spirit, Lord Father, to learn, Lord Father. Whatever you are showing into our hearts, Lord Father, Jesus, we ask and we believe, Lord Father, it will grow and produce 30, 60 and 100 folds in our lives. Lord Father, to be useful and to be a blessing for your kingdom, Jesus, we give you glory and honor. Amen. All right. So we are just doing an overview of the book of Revelation. We started this last week. We said Revelation 1, chapter 1, sorry. John is having a vision of the Lord Jesus. Those things that he is seeing, chapters 2 and 3 are things that are, I mean, things that were happening in John's time, the seven churches. Chapter 4 and 5 is a vision. So from beginning of chapter 4 is the beginning of the seven years of tribulation on the earth. Okay. So chapter 4 and 5 is a vision of what will happen, what is going to happen in heaven. There's worship happening and all the saints are there. And then there is the opening of the scroll. Then we come to the earth. That is what's happening on the earth simultaneously. That's chapter 6, verse 1 onwards. What is happening here on earth? We see the six seals being opened and each seal is having something happening on the earth. So we start from chapter 7, Revelation 7. You all with me? Okay. So Revelation chapter 7, John is seeing that there are 144,000 Jews. What they refer to in verse 3, Revelation 7 verse 3 as the servants of our God. The servants of our God. That means these 144,000 Jews are going to be serving God during the tribulation. They're starting in the beginning of the tribulation, 144,000 Jews. It does not mean that they're all staying in Jerusalem or Israel. They could be all over the world, but they're serving the Lord. And these 144,000 Jews have been marked by God. It says here they have the seal, verse 3, Revelation 7. The servants of God, they have sealed the servants of God. So the seal in the New Testament refers to two things. It's the name of God and it's the Holy Spirit like the Bible tells us we are sealed by the Spirit. So that's another reason why we are saying that the Holy Spirit is going to be working on the earth. Because how can these people serve God without the help of the Holy Spirit? And especially in the tribulation, all the more you need the help of the Holy Spirit. So these Jews are sealed by God. Now, some people may ask, why 144,000? Why not 200,000, 300,000? I don't know, maybe for whatever reason, 12 tribes. For whatever reason, God has decided this number, 12,000 from each tribe. Why not 10,000? Why not 20,000? Whatever, we don't know. 12 tribes, sorry, 200,000 from each tribe means 12 times 12. So 12 tribes, 12,000, 144,000 Jews are going to be witnessing or serving the Lord during the tribulation. We'll get into some details later on next year. It's not exactly the 12 tribes, there's slight variation there. Joseph and Benjamin are mentioned, so that little thing we will deal with next year. And then we are seeing chapter 7, the latter part of chapter 7, verses 9 through 17. We are seeing that there are a lot of people who have come out through the tribulation. So you see, he is seeing all these people worshiping God, then he asks the elders who are these, verse 13, who are these are in white robes. And he says, these are those who have come out verse 14. These are those who have come out of the great tribulation, washed their robes white in the blood of the Lamb. They've come out of the great tribulation. I mean, these are people who have been martyred during the tribulation and their souls, the spirit and soul is coming up before the presence of God. Who are these people joining us here in heaven? Where do they come from? Oh, they all come because they've been martyred here on earth. And he says, you have to be here and God will wipe away all your tears and so on. So he's assuring them that. So we know that during the tribulation, there are people who are going to believe in Jesus and they're going to be martyred for their faith. Then chapter eight, let's go to chapter eight, just for just getting an overview. So there is the last seal, which is like a pause, a silence in heaven, seventh seal. And we also see that there's a lot of prayer happening. Revelation chapter eight, verses one through six, there is a lot of prayer happening from the earth. The prayers are coming like incense before the throne of God. They're the prayers of all the saints. They're coming up before the throne and the angel is throwing the censer that's filled with this fire. He's throwing it to the earth, meaning there's going to be this great prayer movement being caused on the earth. So we can say that there will be a lot of prayer happening. And then begin the trumpet, seven trumpets. Each trumpet, something is happening. First trumpet, one third of the vegetation is burnt. Second trumpet, one third of the water. This was number eight and nine. One third of the water is affected and sea creatures are affected. Third trumpet versus 10 and 11. Waters are becoming sweet. People can drink it. Fourth trumpet, there are all kinds of things happening in the heavenly heavenlies. The sun, the moon, the stars are being shaken. This is verse 12, chapter eight, verses 12 and 13. So all kinds of things happening. Then chapter nine, fifth trumpet. The locusts are released from the bottomless pit. We know that these are demonic powers. They're like scorpions given verse three, chapter nine verse three. They're like scorpions. They're given power to torment people, except for those who are sealed by God for five months and people want to die, but they're not able to die verse six. And then he describes verses seven to twelve. He describes these demonic beings because they've been released from the bottomless pit. But in what form they are taking, how they are operating on the earth is not very clear. John is only describing what he is seeing. It's like locusts with horses, like horses prepared for battle. And they have faces, crowns, like gold faces, like the faces of men and so on. He's describing that verses seven to twelve of Revelation nine. So like I said last week, some things we don't know for sure. We know, okay, from the bottomless pit, demonic powers are released. How they're operating on the earth, are they operating through human beings? Or what is this exactly? What John is writing here, verses seven to twelve, it is left. I mean, people can interpret it in so many ways. We don't have to fight about it, aren't you? Because nobody knows for sure, right? So you'll have different explanations. It's okay. We just listen and say, okay, that's interesting. But we don't know for sure. Okay. Then sixth trumpet, the demonic powers or angels are being released from the great river Euphrates. And there's an army of 200 million people, horsemen who are stirred up. And then he says verse 17. Again, here you see something. There is fiery red. There is blue. There is sulphur yellow. And the horses are like the head of lions. And there is fire and smoke and brimstone. One third of mankind was killed, verse 18, by fire and smoke and brimstone, which came out of their mouths. Again, we don't know for sure what exactly this is, right? John is writing, I'm seeing something like horses and smoke and fire and all these kind of things. What exactly was that? We don't know, right? So we can imagine, okay, maybe these are some missiles happening, atomic bombs. So when atomic bombs came, when they discovered it and they dropped these atomic bombs and they saw how devastating it was. People say, oh, this is maybe this talking about that kind of devastation and so on. But we don't know for sure, okay? But the reality is these things can happen in our day and time. We can have an army of 200 million, even soldiers can be there, can be mobilized. And we can have weapons that seem like there's fire, smoke and brimstone that can destroy one third of mankind, one third of population being destroyed. We do have that kind of weapons that can destroy, okay? Chapter 10 is what we refer to as a parenthetical chapter, meaning this is not about something that is going to happen, but it is something about God dealing with John at that moment. So what's happening? He sees a big angel who comes to John says, John, eat this book. So John eats this book. It is sweet in the mouth, but it is bitter when he gets into the stomach and he's having this experience. And then the angel is saying, John, you have to prophesy many more things. So this is in chapter 10 and he says you have to prophesy about kings. Verse 11, you must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, tongues and kings. That means there's a lot more you have to write or there's a lot more revelation coming. And this is about peoples, nations, tongues and kings. It involves the whole world, okay? So it's a parenthetical chapter, meaning it's not something that's going to happen, but John is experiencing it right then and there, okay? Now, very important to note, chapter 11 verse 1 is the middle of the seven years. Chapter 11 verse 1. So you can say three and a half years over, another three and a half years starting. Chapter 11 verse 1, because it clearly tells us chapter 11 verse 1. I'll just read the first few verses. Then I was given a read like a measuring rod and the angel stood saying, rise and measure the temple of God, the altar and those who worshiped there, but leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it. But it has been given to the Gentiles and they will tread the holy city underfoot for 42 months. 42 months is three and a half years. So we know. He's saying from now on there's going to be 42 months. 42 months, these Gentiles are going to, they're going to move in the temple and they're going to move in the city. I mean, Gentiles are going to overpower that city. So that's what we know. Revelation 11. One is correctly in the middle of the tribulation. 42 months. The other things we can point out is Revelation 11 and 2. He's saying there is the temple of God. So there has to be a literal. Right now there is no time. But by the time you come to chapter 11 verse 1, there is an altar. Worship is happening, but it has now at this point, it has been given over to the Gentiles and they're going to desecrate it. Which means the temple had to be built sometime before. So that's what we can say. At some point the temple has to be ready. It will most likely be ready right at the beginning of the tribulation. It'll get ready. And I can imagine, I'm not saying this is exactly the way it's going to happen. I can imagine that when the Antichrist comes, Revelation 6.1, he comes riding on a white horse, a man of peace. He's able to bring peace temporarily to the problem in the Middle East. And part of that solution is, and again I'm imagining, I'm not saying this is exactly what's going to happen. Part of the solution is let the Jews build their temple. Because the temple has to be there. So as part of the solution, Jews will have their temple. And I think part of the solution will be these Palestinians will have their land. So both are happy. Jews get their temple, they get their land. I'm imagining. Because there has to be a temple. And he's going to have a covenant of peace in a peace treaty. Seven years. We'll do this. So he comes as a man of peace. But Revelation 11.1, middle of the tribulation, 42 months, 42 months over, 42 months left. What is happening? Everything is changing. In this temple, which is holy and sacred to the Jews, where worship has been going on, now it is being turned over. It is being desecrated. So we will see in chapter 13 that this man, Antichrist, he sets himself up in the temple to be worshiped. Okay. Question. So many people are desecrating over the solution. They are trying to help the Jews. So they want to help the Jews. Yeah. So for quite some time now, I think, I would think almost, actually it's been a while. There is a website called the Temple Mount something. I think I put it on the note somewhere, where they have been preparing for the temple. So it's been actually now almost two decades, I think, where they have got everything ready. Temple Institute. So you can go and see. They've done thorough preparation. They, everything, all the utensils, the priests, everything they need, it's ready. Even the plan, how to rebuild the temple, is ready. And I think, so a documentary, nice video was done. I think almost that video is almost, I'm thinking from the 1990s, something here produced where he is documenting that how these people, Orthodox Jews, they have made full preparation for the temple. And I think two years ago, they even had like a kind of a sacrifice kind of thing, you know, but like, like, you can say like a practice thing they did about sacrificing the, the, the gold, the gold, like on the day of our torment, what will happen on that. So they had like a practice thing. So technically the Orthodox Jews are ready. And I think they, they estimate like within three months, they can put up everything, construct the temple, start everything. So much preparation is done. So if they're, if they're given access, they will re put, put up the temple within three months. That's very short time because they have made tarot preparation. So you can read about this online, like they've done documentary. And also it's almost like oblique information, like it's not a secret, but of course from the other side, also there have been quite a lot of threats and opposition like, hey, you should dare do anything, you know, build a temple on this, this place, you know, we will attack, we will do this. So both sides have, you know, have their own plans, the Arabs and the Jews. But here we are seeing chapter 11 verse one and two, that there is a temple. And at this point it is being desecrated. The Gentiles are, you know, terribly destroying it. I mean, just about to say dishonoring it. Says they will treat the holy city underfoot for 42 months. The other thing we are seeing verse three, God is introducing his two witnesses. I will give power to my two witnesses. They will prophesy 1,260 days. 1,260 days is 42 months. That means once again we know clearly, this is the middle of the tribulation. He's saying these two prophets will prophesy 1,260 days. They will be prophesied. So we don't know exactly, you know, who these two witnesses are, but we can say in Malachi 4-4, God said, I will send Elijah the prophet. So one must be Elijah. Then we say, okay, what is so unique about Elijah? He didn't die, he was taken up to heaven. So the only other person like that is Enoch. So we can say most likely the other person must be Enoch. But you know, there's no chapter and verse for it. We are just saying that most likely. Right. So most likely these two witnesses, one will be Elijah, one will be Enoch. And they are going to be prophesying. And they will have, you know, they will, verse six, they will have, they'll do supernatural things. They'll have power to shut up heaven, stop rain. They will turn water to blood. They will strike the earth to plagues and so on. So they're going to do this for two and a half, sorry, 42 months, three and a half years. Then verse seven, when they finish the testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them and kill them. And the dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, but also our Lord was crucified. So notice something here. The beast that attends, ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them and kill them. Now this beast is the Antichrist. Okay. It says he ascends from the bottomless pit, it doesn't mean he's a demon, but he's a man, we will see in chapter 13. He's a man, but he's empowered by the devil. Right. So he's, he's, he's empowered by demonic power. So that's why, you know, look when we saw earlier in chapter nine, it says from the bottomless pit, they came this locus on the earth and there was given power like scorpions of the earth. So locus and so they're coming out of this bottomless pit. So again there in what form are they going to express themselves on the earth? Is it like all these demonic powers are going to take on, you know, I mean affect human beings and through them work of how they're going to express themselves on the earth, we don't know. But Revelation 11 verse seven, this beast to ascends from the bottomless pit, we will see later on in chapter 13, that this beast, he is the Antichrist who is going to do, you know, lots of, lots and lots of things. Okay. So this beast, the Antichrist, he kills them and their bodies are going to lie in the city of Jerusalem. But notice at that point verse eight, Revelation 11 verse eight, the great city at that point spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt. Sodom known for its immorality, Egypt known for its idolatry. Jerusalem is going to be like that, meaning spiritually it's going to be like Sodom and Egypt. The spiritual condition of Jerusalem at that time is going to be like that. Verse nine, peoples, all the peoples, tribes and tongues will see their dead body three and a half days. Now, we are living in a time when this was possible. Right. So you think about this, maybe let's say 20 or 30 years ago, this would not be possible. How will people from tribes, tongues and nations see their dead body? Today, you can have live stream, live video, live TV. You can see 30 years ago, not possible. You only have to read newspaper. That means you're not seeing live, you're not seeing them literally. But today you can literally see. So it says here, peoples, tribes, tongues and nations will see their dead bodies for three and a half days. That means we are living in a time when this can be fulfilled. That means we are getting closer to it. Yeah. And then they're going to be very happy. Hey, these two prophets who were prophesying, they are dead. But it says verse 11, after three and a half days, God's going to give life to them. They're going to stand on their feet and they will hear a voice come up here and they will ascend to heaven in a cloud and the enemies saw them. That means that people are seeing this happen. You can imagine cameras all on this thing and everybody is seeing this happen. They'll replay it over and over again because it's recorded. This is how what happened. And there's going to be a great earthquake and people are going to be afraid and they're going to give glory to the God of heaven. So this is going to happen at the end of the three and a half years. Yes. So this small portion about these two witnesses is really, in a few verses, he's describing what is going to happen from the middle of the tribulation till the end, the three and a half years. Towards the end of the three and a half years, these two prophets will be killed. People will see the dead bodies and they'll also see them rise up and go into heaven. You're with me so far. Yeah, then there is a seventh trumpet. The seventh trumpet is announcing something that's going to happen, which is that the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and Christ and there's going to be worship. So the seventh trumpet is announcing, hey, this is going to happen soon, very soon. The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of Christ. And there's going to be worship happening in heaven. And John says he sees the temple of God in heaven and the Ark of His Covenant is seen in this temple. Chapter 12. Chapter 12 is again now at the middle of the tribulation. So chapter 11 was in the middle of the tribulation. It took us up to the end saying, okay, this will happen till the end and it comes back to the middle. Chapter 12 is again at the middle. Chapter 13 is also at the middle. Okay. In chapter 12. And actually, I'll tell you why we saying it's at the middle because he mentioned that it's three and a half years in chapter 12. I'll show that to you. But in chapter 12, something else is happening. He's telling us what, how Satan is going to be reacting in the middle of the tribulation. But he's giving us a background. He says in chapter 12, he sees a great sign in heaven. A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon and on her head a girl under 12 stars and she was with child and she cried out in labor and pain to give birth. And there was a great fiery westerly, a fiery dragon. He had seven heads, ten horns, seven diadems. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw it through the earth. The dragon stood before the woman was ready to give birth to give her her child. She bought a male child who was rural nations with the rod of iron and her child was caught up to God and his throne was six. The woman fled in the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God and they should feed her there 1,260 days. Again, he's saying 1,260 days. That means that is 42 months. That is three and a half years. So that's what we're saying. Chapter 12 is again about something that's happening in the middle of the tribulation. But what's he talking about here? First of all, we can start like this. Who is this male child? The male child, too close, he's saying he will rule the nations with a rod of iron. That's verse five. And he was caught up to God and his throne. Who would that be? He will rule the nations with the rod of iron and he was caught up to God and his throne, Jesus. Jesus is the one who's going to rule the nations with a rod of iron. You see that in Revelation 1 and also in Revelation 19. Revelation 1, verse five, he's a ruler over all the kings of the earth. And chapter 19 is very clear. Revelation 19. And let's look at this verse here. Verse 15, Revelation 19, 15. That was Mark goes a sharp sword. That with it he should strike the nations and he himself will rule them with a rod of iron. So the one who will rule the nations with a rod of iron is clearly Jesus. And he was caught up to God and his throne. So Jesus ascended to the throne of God. Very clear. Right? So this male child, this child, she bought a male child. Revelation 12, verse five. That is the male child is Jesus. Then who can the woman be? Again, there's a clue. First of all, this woman is clothed with the sun and the moon and there was a garland of twelve stars. So you think about the Old Testament. Somebody had a dream, the sun, the moon and the eleven stars. Who had that? Joseph. Who was his father and mother? Jacob and Rebekah. But Jacob represents Israel. Right? So this woman here, that's one clue. Sun, moon, twelve stars, Jacob, Israel. She gave birth to the male child Jesus. So whom did Jesus come from? Israel. So the woman has to be Israel. The woman cannot be the church for these two reasons. One, the sun, the moon, the eleven stars is a picture that's used in the Old Testament about Jacob and his family. Not about the church. Some people say the woman is the church. No, no, no, it cannot be. Secondly, second reason it cannot be the church is because Jesus was not born from the church. He was born through Israel. The church didn't give birth to Jesus. Correct. So this woman has to be Israel, not Jesus. The male child is Jesus. We saw clearly two clues he's given. Again, two clues about who the woman is. Right? The sun, the moon, the twelve stars and she gave birth to the male child. So she has to be Israel. And so here we also read about the red dragon. Right? So he has seven heads that's representing authority. Ten horns. We will see later on the representing these ten leaders who are going to be empowered by him. Seven diadems again showing his, you know, authority. Verse four, Revelation 12 verse four, his tail drew a third of the stars of heaven through them to the earth. So this is talking about when Satan took one third of the angels with him and was cast out to the earth. So that's what we say, one third of the angels were taken with the devil. We get it from here from verse four. Right? And we see very clearly that this dragon is Satan. We see this in verse nine, Revelation 12, nine. So the great dragon was cast out, the serpent of old called the devil and Satan. So the great dragon is Satan is a devil. So what's happening? Revelation 12 is, Revelation 12 is this. Verses one through six is a little background to what's happening. Israel, Jesus, Satan, the dragon. In the middle of the tribulation, the devil, the great dragon. The dragon is going to do something. He's going to make one final attempt to try to go to heaven. Okay. He knows this is the end. So that's why verse seven says, war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought with the dragon. So verse seven is what is going to happen in the middle of the tribulation. In the middle of the tribulation, Satan is going to make one final attempt to go. But Michael and his angels say, you cannot come. And what happens? It says there was no, there was from no place for them in heaven. And he was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him. And this was nine. And then it says here that war was 12, war to the inhabitants of the earth. So the devil has come down to you having great wrath because he knows that he has a short time. Hey, this is it. I only have 42 months, three and a half years left. So he comes with great wrath, great anger. And what does he do? Verse 13, now the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth. He persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male. That means he's going after Israel. How is the dragon going after Israel? Through the beast, through the antichrist. So Satan himself was not like physically walking on the earth. He's using this antichrist to go after this woman. Israel was 14, but the woman was given two wings of great eagle. And she would be in the wilderness for a time and times and half a time from the presence of the serpent. Time, times, half a time, three and a half years. You read this also in the book of Daniel, Daniel chapter seven, chapter eight, you will see that later. But this time times half a time is three and a half years. Time one year times two years, half a time, half a year, six months, three and a half years. So for three and a half years he knows and he's going to persecute Israel. Verse 17 says specifically those who believe in Jesus. Verse 17, and the dragon was enraged with the woman that's Israel. And he went to make war with the rest of her offspring. There is all the Jewish people who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. So he's going specifically after Israel, but specifically after the Jews who follow Jesus. So this is another thing that's happening starting from the middle of the tribulation for the next three and a half years. The dragon Satan is going after these Jewish people through the antichrist attacking these people. So this is going to be very painful. So the Bible calls these three and a half years a time of Jacob's trouble. It's a time of Jacob's trouble. He's going to suffer so much. Okay, so any questions still now? You understanding? Yeah, step by step. Chapter 13 is also happening starting in the middle of the tribulation. In chapter 13, we are introduced to the beast and the false prophet. So verse 13 verse 1, I saw a beast. Now notice this beast is having seven heads, ten horns, but we just read the dragon. In chapter 12, the dragon is having this seven heads, ten horns. So that means this beast is the embodiment of this dragon. The serpent Satan. So this beast is actually the representative of this dragon. Verse 2, chapter 13 verse 2, the beast which I saw was like a leopard. His feet were like the feet of bear. His mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne and great authority. So the dragon, which is Satan, is giving this beast. This man, his authority, his power, his kingdom. So this man, the Antichrist, is empowered by Satan, by the dragon. Yes. He told the smoke, like some kind of creatures. Then in the other class, last week you told like maybe there are some aircrafts or something. So when we are talking about this dragon also, how can we understand is it a literal dragon or any human made? Okay. So in chapter 12, the Bible is telling us who this dragon is. So chapter 12 verse 9, it says, so the great dragon was cast out. That serpent of old called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world. He was cast to the earth and his angels were cast out with him. They were telling us who this dragon is. So the dragon is Satan, the devil. So he's a spiritual being. And this dragon, so now we are seeing in chapter 13 and verse 2, the latter part of verse 2, the dragon gave him, that is the beast, his power, his throne and great authority. So dragon, who is the dragon? The devil is Satan. He is giving the beast his power. So as we read chapter 30 very carefully, we will see that this beast is actually a man because he is going to be doing things which only a man can do. Right? So that's what we can say confidently. Oh, dragon is the devil because Bible clearly said it. The beast is a man because he's going to be doing things that a man would do. So this man, the Antichrist, is empowered by the dragon. And this beast we saw in chapter 11, he's the one who kills the two witnesses. So same beast, he's empowered by the dragon and he's doing this. Right? So we read about the beast here, chapter 13, that he was wounded, but his wound was healed and all the world, Mahabal, then they followed the beast. So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast and they worshiped the beast saying, who is like the beast? Who was able to make war with him? And then look at verse 5, and it was given a mouth, speaking great things in blasphemies and it was given authority to continue for 42 months. Again, middle of the tribulation. So this is happening starting from the middle of the tribulation till the end. He opened his mouth in blasphemy. Again, he got to blaspheme his name, his tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. And it was granted to him to make war with the saints and overcome them. And I thought he was given to him away. We tribe, tongue, and nation, all who dwell on the earth will worship him. His names were not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. So this beast now, we see he has human characteristics because he's been killed or what we usually interpreted as an assassination attempt on him. They try to kill him, but he has a wound, but he survives. So people are saying, oh, this beast must be very great. And he's speaking blasphemies against God. And he's having authority over nations and tribes and tongues. So obviously he has to be a man who was having all this influence over so many nations. And people are beginning to worship him. And through him, they are worshiping the dragon. You understand? So that's why we are saying that this beast is actually the Antichrist, a man. He's speaking things against God. He's having rule over authority over the nations. And through him, people are worshiping, actually worshiping the dragon. Okay, so we'll pause here. But remember, it says here, 42 months. And so again, this tells us clearly that it's going to be in the middle of the tribulation, verse 5, Revelation 13, 5, for 42 months. So starting from the middle of the tribulation, this is going to be happening. Okay, so we'll just take a break. We'll come back and we'll continue from verse 11. Question? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So it is describing so verse 7 to 9. It is describing Satan, making a final attempt for Satan and his demonic powers, making a final attempt to go into heaven. Michael and his angels are saying no way. And this is it. No more, there will never be another chance for them to even attempt to go into heaven. Because what will happen? They are sent to the earth three and a half years. At the end of the three and a half years, Satan is bound for 1,000 and his demons are bound for 1,000 years during the Millennium. That means three and a half years, short time. After that, when the Lord Jesus comes, Satan and his demons are bound for 1,000 years. No chance at all. Then at the end of the thousand years, they release for a very brief period of time. We don't know what that brief period of time is, but the time is very short. And they are no chance of going to heaven. They only try one final attempt to attack Jerusalem. That's it. So what we're reading here, Revelation 12.7, in the middle of the tribulation, that is the last and final chance that they have even to pride to get to heaven. No chance after that. So no longer from there. So Satan was already cast out along with one third of his angels that we read about them. He was four. He took one third of the stars and threw them to the earth. So that means sometime in eternity past, they were cast to the earth. And Jesus said in Luke 10.17, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. So Jesus saw that it was in the eternity past. Since that time, there's been no place in heaven. And here, it's their final attempt to try to go in, but there's no chance. So Satan has the access to go into the heaven. Because in Job, we can see that the enemy goes into the presence of God and asks Him. So is there chance that access for them right now to go into heaven? To have some conversation with God. I know in Job, there is that conversation like God says, you know, Satan, have you seen Job, my son? Now, we don't know for sure is if Satan is given access to heaven, right? That's one instance where we have this record. But let's look at it like this. God is so holy. Heaven is such a holy place. Can or would God even allow Satan to come there? My thought is no. But then how can God have a conversation with Satan? Well, God is omnipresent, right? So He doesn't have to let Satan come into heaven to have a conversation with Him. He cannot talk to Satan wherever he is. Like for example, God speaks to you and me. Does that mean we are all going into heaven? Having a conversation coming. No. God is speaking to you. God is speaking to me where I am, where you are. Because He's omnipresent. So we say God spoke to me, right? You went to heaven? You. On the other hand, I don't want to cry. They won't have this conversation if they are on your work. Maybe we can tell you like this. The heavenlies. So remember, there is the atmospheric heaven. There's a spiritual heavenlies. And then there is the heaven of heaven. So the third heaven where God is. Where God's thrown us. So this probably took place in the heavenlies. Again, I'm saying probably because I can't imagine that God letting the devil come into His. Why should even let him in? Right. So yes, conversation took place as recorded in Joe. But where did it take place? Most likely in the heavenlies, not in the throne room of God. See, there's only one example we have, right? Which, yeah, can give a lot of questions. But if people interpret it, it can go off in many different directions. But I think we just have to think, you know, heaven is such a holy place. Who can, like the Psalmist says, who can ascend to the hill of the Lord? Who can stand in His holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart. Okay, if you're saying so much about man, then what about the devil? Is God going to let him just freely come into this presence? No. So that's just my analysis. And we're not necessarily saying this exactly how it is, but my thought would be like this. So I wouldn't, you know, build a theology saying, okay, Satan is coming in and out of God's presence. No. All right, so let's pause here. We'll come back and continue.