 A big name was Ta himself. We're so grateful as SP and Bars to be here. Tell us about yourself. Maybe an intro. Some of you may know me as your sister's next mister. Some of you know me as Mr. Seal Your Girl. Some of you know me as your future ex-boyfriend. But today I come here as Kaga Mungai. The man, the musician, the businessman and yeah we're here to just celebrate and have a good time. I've seen from your bio you're a producer, an artist, an actor, you're an entrepreneur. Why all this? Why not? I mean the thing is there's a lot to do. There's a lot to do and art is one part of it. You know and I think art is all connected whether it's fashion, whether it's music, whether it's production, whether it's all of these things, they're all connected. And the thing that pushes the thing forward is usually business. And so obviously now you have to put in the business with the art and now you have a great product. And that's what we did when we were creating this company called OB and OB comes from the name Nairobi. We took out the first few letters of Nairobi and we kept OB and yeah so that's what we're doing at OB. We're creating dope art that can be appreciated by anyone from all walks of life all over the world. OB is a production company. Maybe you can tell us details more about OB. Yeah so OB is a creative house and what we do is we create things. So whether that's exclusive and very intimate kind of experiential events, whether that's music, whether that's videography, advertisements, documentaries, everything creative that you can think of OB Africa does. And we've been doing this for about a year and a half. The dream has been bigger much longer but it's been about a year and a half. We started just when COVID began. We thought you know what it's tough but we have to continue going and so so far so good. So far so good. Are there artists been signed under OB? Yes for sure. Not this year. From next year 2022 election year we're electing some new artists. I've scared some guys are saying forget what it is. So that's where we're going to be sharing guys. We're really looking for talent and so whether that's musical talent, whether that's a graphic designer talent, whether you have talent for being an emcee or a host or whatever it is. We're looking for talent and in 2022 you're going to be seeing a lot more talent coming up under OB Africa. Under OB Africa in 2022 guys are planning to sign artists. Maybe to ask you as a producer, as an artist, what do you look into an artist? And in Kenya you've given a chance today. Who will you sign today under OB? I can't tell you who I would sign because maybe I've already signed them and it's not privileged information. But the thing that we look for is one originality. Two is consistency and confidence. This industry is a tough industry. It can really wear you down. It can beat you up. I've been doing this for about seven years now and I've learnt a lot. There's quite a lot that you go through. A lot of people you interact with and if you don't build a thick skin very quickly, it will swallow you whole. So we're looking for people who are headstrong, who know who they are, who believe in what they're doing and obviously have original great talent. You've mentioned it's been a tough seven years. What keeps you going as Kaguen guy? Ah, I mean everything. The fans, first of all, I think I can't ignore that. But more importantly, my family. When I say my family, I mean my relatives but also the people that I consider my family. And some of them are here today. And so to share these kind of moments with them is what makes it worth it. Because they've seen everything. They've seen the ups, they've seen the downs. And so now it's great to have them here as we celebrate. You've mentioned one of the things you look into, signing an artist's originality. Kenyans who don't have our original kind of song, general song. There's a time you say it's bongo or you say it's genge or you say it's genge to nikakuja. What do you think about that? All of those things are all original. The thing is just, I think what we have as Kenyans is we have diversity. One day you hear Butrus singing, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ati Wanjira Kosingo, Min Kosingo Pia. Then the next day you can listen to Sauti Soul. Then the next day you're listening to Benzema. The next day you're listening to... Every day, obviously, you're listening to Kaga Mungai. But generally, you know, we have a lot of diverse sounds, right? And I think that's what makes our industry the greatest industry in this continent right now. Is that we have diversity. We're not telling people, if you don't sound like them and you want to be a hitmaker. We're telling people that as long as your music sounds dope, you can make hits. That's it. What keeps you going as Kaga Mungai? Is it the good artwork of writing music? Is it the production? Is it you as an artist? I mean, I enjoy all of them. I enjoy all of them. I enjoy the music. I enjoy the production. I enjoy being on stage. All of them, they compliment each other, you know? And I start a song. I start the song in the studio. I make the beats. I write the lyrics. We think about the video. We think about executing the video. We think about how that song then sounds live. And so we're always thinking about the bigger, bigger picture, you know? We want these songs and videos to be played 20, 30 years from now, you know? We want the people who are watching this now in 2060, you know? To be like, wow, this thing was made in 2021. That's dope. And I still can listen to it. I can jump to it. It's a good vibe. Amapiano Wave is here. Everyone wants to do Amapiano songs. Are you attracted to do Amapiano songs? Amapiano is dope. And I think I can say perhaps last year I had a song that had some Amapiano influences called Che Che. And Che Che was probably the first of that kind of sound in East Africa. Because it's a strong sound. Amapiano is taking over Africa. It's become a globally recognized African genre. And it's great. I'm happy for the South Africans. I'm happy for Africa. It's good. When Africa wins, we all win, you know? And so anyone who's doing Amapiano, may I salute them. I've been seeing Kina Brandi Minor and a few other guys doing Amapiano now, which is amazing. So as long as it's African and it's being made by Africans, call it Amapiano, call it Gengetol, call it Gengetiano. May I like this? To confirm today, do you write your own songs? I do. I do. I write my own music. But I also work with different songwriters. I produce my own music, but from time I also work with different producers. So for example, this song, Bogey Amadenge, was mixed and mastered by this guy called Sofresh. Sofresh is a very, very amazing producer that has been working with many, many guys from soul generation, various many guys. And so, yeah, we work with different guys from time to time. But if you ask me to write a song, I might write my songs. Bogey Amadenge, it's a kind of Gengeton song. We had conversation before. Gengeton guys are claiming Gengeton is dying. What's your view on that? You can't kill music. You can't kill music. That's like saying, Reggae is dead. Reggae is not dead. Dancehall is not dead. It never died. Bongo never died. It's just that from time to time you hear something else that's really more exciting and Chang'an is just, you know, guys differently. But the truth is, you can't kill music. You can't kill acts. You know, Gengeton is here to stay. It was made from something real. It comes from something real. And that's why it's alive. And that's why I believe in Gengeton. Why Bogey Amadenge? Because number one, it's important. One, as Kagwe, right? I have a very loyal female fan base. Shout out to all the fans. And I just really wanted to shout them out and say, you guys are with me. On this new stage that we're going to, it's just how we're going to come together. Me, me and Sisi, we're going forward, right? Number two, it's also to just give women that platform, right? I think a lot of the time, Gengeton can be a little bit crass and demeaning to women sometimes. And I didn't want to make a song that was demeaning to women because women are who I work with, right? We employ women at OB Africa. I have lots of women in my life that are my great, great, great friends. And so I would never want to make anything that would be, you know, dirty in that kind of way. So it was something to also amplify that conversation. Maybe you can tell us, why did you decide to work with Benzema on this new song, Bogey Amadenge? And then maybe the experience working with Benzema, studio experience, production, during the shoot. If you can share with us. Yeah, no, Benzema is a great guy. He's a great guy. He's somewhere around here, just doing his photo motors. But, you know, he's a great guy. We started talking some time back. We agreed, hey, let's make some music. And from then on, we've just continued to meet up and share ideas. And one day I played him this track, which was Bogey Amadenge. And he was like, this thing is, this is the one. This is the one. It's musical. It's Gengeton. It's authentic. And it's real. And it's still dope. It hasn't lost dupeness. It's amplified. It's stronger. And he was like, we have to do the song. And so we sat down, did the song, recorded the verses. And then from there, we shot the video. And he played his parts. He did a really good job. I'm really, really grateful to have him on the song. Alejandro, you know, he's, he's, he's. And also it made sense. You know, it made sense. Coming as, as, as, as the guy who was previously stealing people's babes. To also not having somebody who is currently stealing people's babes. I think it makes sense. Kagwin, what do you give your female fans? Good music. No, bro. Tell us. No, it's good music. Honestly, honestly. And I feel like since day one, that has been my most loyal fan base. And I'm really, really grateful. And so this is, this is for you guys. This is because you guys have been with me for so long. You guys are my Mboggi, I'm a Dengue. And I appreciate you. Where do you want to take your music to the next level? How are you planning to take your music to the next level? May I want, I want, I want everything. I want everything. And we went for everything. Not half, not a quarter, not some of it. Not just enough. All of it. All of it. The same way that we are seeing our, our great actors. People like, you know, Lupita, we sing in South. So we're doing, seeing all of these people becoming African global brands. That's what we're trying to build with Kagumu. And that's what you're going to be seeing in the next few months. Are you planning to sing gospel anytime soon? Because I know you understand your diverse. You have the creativity. You have a team behind you. They can, they can suggest, they can give you a way. Maybe we'll try this way or the other way. I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I'm not opposed to it. I've done some gospel songs in the past. Which are still playing on radio. And they're being appreciated by my fans. But I'm not opposed to it. Right now, right now we're focusing on Bogeyama Dengue. And we're enjoying this wave. Understand we have positive criticism, negative criticism. How do you handle negativity? Negativity. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't, I don't listen to, I don't listen to it. I don't make time for it. I'm too busy. Honestly, I'm not even lying. I'm, I don't have time. I don't have time to, to read Nani's comment from CIGI, for example, who is telling me that CIGI, oh, you didn't, I don't have time, bro. He has time. He has time to go on my page and comment about me, me, me, me, negativity. I don't have time. So I focus on the positives. I focus on the people who are with me. I focus on the great things we're doing, the partnerships that we're making. And that's, that's the most important thing. Do, do, okay. Just to ask, do you feel like government is playing a bigger role in mentoring a young musician and not going through what you went through? The government are doing what? Government doing the right way. Like are they putting structures? We've had issues a previous month when it comes to loyalties to artists. Things are not going the right way. Yeah, it's, it's, you know, at the end of the day, you, where Kenya is a complicated country, you know, Kenya is a complicated country. We love it. We're here, we're Kenyans. Everyone here will always claim and die to be a Kenyan, but our country is complicated. Not like any other country is not complicated. The US, they have their problems. South Africa, they have their problems. Nigeria have their problems, right? We have, we have our problems. And the thing is to try and make your impact in your own way. Right. And so for me, the thing that I want to do is give young Kenyans, young creative Kenyans the opportunities that we know that we deserve to have. And so that's what we're trying to do. We're not waiting for anyone to give us handouts. We're not waiting for anyone to tell us, oh, now is the time to do it. Now come and get money from us. No. We want you where you are. Come, let's build. Given chance today, what will you ever change? About? In the government structures. I'm not a politician. For example, given a chance to change the right of artists and musicians in Kenya, what is that one thing you want to change? Honestly, I don't know. I can't tell you that. I can't tell you the things that I would change because I don't understand how government works. I'm not a politician. But what I can tell you is that the people that have talent in this country are so many, so many. And we see them every day, every single, single day. And they are more that we don't see. Right. And for me, the thing that I want to change is the way people perceive the talent in Kenya. I want to change that. I want to put, when people think of African music, they think, ah, there's Kaku Mungai, there's Whisky, there's Sautiso, there's Benzema, there's who, there's who, there's who, there's who. And Kenya is on that list, right? So as me, my goal is to put Kenya on that list. If Kenya is on that list, then I'm good. Are you planning to work with any international artist? We are currently working with some. Just to mention a few? I cannot. Why? I would like to. I would like to. But contracts. Just to finalize on the interview. So many people are asking, is Kaku Mungai dating? Is Kaku Mungai seeing someone? Maybe just to confirm with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a crush on someone. I have a crush on someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Who? Nairobi. I don't recognize him. He's a tough guy. So, yeah, yeah, for sure. There's somebody. OK, lastly, to the upcoming musician, what is your advice to them? Don't stop. Don't give up. Don't waver. If you believe in yourself, keep going. Keep going. Remember what you started this thing for. Remember why you wake up every day. If you're doing it for your family. If you're doing it for yourself. If you're doing it for your country. Whatever your reason is, don't stop. Ever. To your fans, maybe where they can find you on social media platforms? At Kaku Mungai everywhere. And just want to say asante. But also before I sign out. I also wanted to just give a huge, huge shout out to the partner who we've partnered on this event with. And also with this release. Some good friends of mine called MediaPal. We have Maurice Juma over there and Eric Jackson who will come and sit down in a minute. And these guys we met up and we shared our vision for what this thing can be. And they're already doing crazy revolutionary things in the tech space and the advertising world. Google MediaPal and just have your life changed. I'm telling you, these guys are doing incredible things. And none of this would be possible without them. So Asante MediaPal, Asante to everybody who's come out the entire cast, the crew, the OB team, SPM Buzz, you guys for coming through and supporting. You guys are part of the culture. We can't do this thing without you. Me, I'm Kaku Mungai. You can follow me at Kaku Mungai everywhere. And don't forget, let me tell you something. My name is Haseera Kahende. If you don't want to know, I'll tell you later. SPM Buzz.